/ck/ - Food & Cooking

I have a kitchen knife that exceeds regulatory dimensions on knives allowed in my country without permit.

Alcohol in general. Makes everything better. Be sure to test those bottles before using them for cooking.

>>10650005
Wait. What? You have restrictions on kitchen knives?
>>10650019
Don't cook with no wine you don't drink (pic related)

>>10650038
Yes Monsieur.

>>10650038
>You have restrictions on kitchen knives?
you're just now finding out about britbongs? where have you been?

OI! you av a licence to post on this site ?

>>10650056
>britbongs
I knew a few years ago there was talk of this, but I didn't know it had come to fruition.

DESU, while restrictions sound like a heaping helping of stupid, I don't think I've ever used more than a 10" chef's knife and a 12" slicer. What are the restrictions? Can a neckbeard still assemble a katana collection, or are swords verboten?
Pic sorta related

>>10649991
Whisk these under 18's gonna do with these?

>>10650078
Acid attacks

I know the 'hurr durr gubmint b& muh knifes' shtick sells copies of the Daily Fail, but if you read the restrictions, they're pretty far from egregious. Very similar to US, actually.

https://www.gov.uk/buying-carrying-knives

>>10650102
There are five or six quite serviceably looking knives in there. Who the fuck threw them away? I guess it mostly shit they inherited from their dead granny and they dont know what else to do with. My brother and I have inherited so much crap from our two grandmothers. Thankfully we have a really large house with basement ...

>>10650102
Is that a fucking rasper?

>>10650133
We don't have age restrictions on cooking utensils, so no, it's not like the US

>>10650133
>Very similar to US, actually.

No, not whatsoever. Please don't drag us into your lie to play pretend.

>>10650133
>can't buy a normal knife under 18
>folding knifes are fine
WTF?

>>10650167
Tell me how they're not similar.

>>10650169
We just did.

>>10650168
there folders do not lock. Try to get stabby with them and you will likely just cut your fingers off.

>>10649991
Britain is fucked.

>>10650174
Slashing is just as effective, sometimes more so, as you won't get the blade stuck in a ribcage or something.

>>10650189
you sound like a fucking novice that leaves survivors. Why stab a chest if you know where the hose sized arteries are?

>>10650247
Wow we got a badass here!

>>10650263
shut your cock socket

>>10650189
I've worked both the ER and the ICU and the nastiest, and most common, cases we got were the ones treated to the "sewing machine technique".
I.e. many quick stabs to the same general area as quickly as possible, maybe sacrificing depth on the individual stabs.
Very very difficult to the surgeons to work on and people certainly died from them.
That's not perfect as a statistic of course. For example, if all the slash victims died on the scene that would explain why I didn't see them.
But stabs, even with a blade of only two or three inches, are no joke.

I live in Denmark and I think our knife laws might actually be a little stricter than the UK ones. But the people who stab others keep breaking them for some reason.

>>10650071
bongoloid here
as far as i know, we can have swords, knives whatever
you can buy bows, crossbows, air pistols, all sorts (if you're 18+)
but if the cops catch you carrying a knife with a blade longer than 3", they'll assume it's a weapon unless you have a good reason (eg. you can show that you're off camping, or work in a kitchen and are replacing a work knife)
you have to convince them (police or a judge) that you were not carrying anything as a weapon, that's what is illegal

>>10650319
>you have to convince them (police or a judge) that you were not carrying anything as a weapon, that's what is illegal
I can carry a shotgun around on my back pretty much anywhere and no one bats an eye. Your country is just sad.

>>10650174
i've bought a locking folding knife here in the uk

>>10650169
Kids can buy egg whisks in America.

>>10650319
>air pistols, all sorts
Nope. Airguns are limited by power. Any more than 6 ft-lb energy for a pistol and they are outright banned, period, even if you have a FAC. The cutoff is 12 ft-lb for a rifle, at which point they require a firearms certificate.

>>10650326
yeah and you can also get shot
i can get into a fight with someone and be reasonably sure i won't be stabbed or shot to death
i can be confident that my family members aren't at risk of being shot or stabbed
of course i'd like a gun, but i'm happy to not have one if it means nobody else has one, and me and the people i care about are more safe as a result

>>10650319
People that hurt people for a living will often carry around a hammer. Cops won't even bother you over this and if you are just looking to collect on a drug debt or something, a hammer is the right tool for the job.

>>10650348
>i can be confident that my family members aren't at risk of being shot or stabbed

>>10650348
Imagine being this cucked

>>10650326
I spent of my life in a very rural "pro-gun" state and every time someone was open-carrying in a mall or restaurant most of the other people in the area would look at them like "what the fuck is wrong with you" you could feel how uncomfortable everyone in the room gets when someone with a gun enters.

>>10650348
>yeah and you can also get shot
The chance of that happening, despite media sensationalism, is incredibly rare.

>>i can get into a fight with someone and be reasonably sure i won't be stabbed or shot to death
>>i can be confident that my family members aren't at risk of being shot or stabbed
Same with any country really.

>>and me and the people i care about are more safe as a result
Not really. The murderous fucks out there simply use other weapons instead, like a rental truck, explosives, acid, you name it. I witnessed an acid attack in London two years ago, that shit is fucked up.

>>10650359
>cucked

>>10650355
other tools like screwdrivers are fairly common weapons here, although the police would certainly ask what you're doing with it if it's not on a toolbelt or in a toolbox
sports gear as well
if you have a baseball and baseball glove with your bat, you can excuse having a baseball bat in the boot of your car

>>10650348
>of course i'd like a gun, but i'm happy to not have one if it means nobody else has one, and me and the people i care about are more safe as a result

Fuck people who care about safety.

You are the reason society is being flooded with violent idiots. No attrition for them to take care of themselves.

>>10650356
>londonistan
>representative of britain
nope

>>10650373
>My shit arse corner of Kent is the only REAL Britain.

>>10650373
And no true Briton puts sugar on his hummus!

>>10650379
london is highly exceptional in terms of crime stats and demographics
it's practically third world tier now
i wouldn't live there if you paid me
knife and gun and acid crime where i am is virtually non-existent, and is a far better example of british life in general

>>10650389
Lots of strange murders, tho, eh, Barnaby?

>>10650356
they dont remove guns to make nyone safer, its just a demonstration of power
They want to show you they make the rules for you and you follow them and you dont question how or why and there is nothing they wont take away from you, they dont even need a reason for it

>>10650389
Literally the no true scotsman fallacy.

>>10650364
i guess you are adding redditor to that list champ

>>10650400
>muh deep state
>infowars, man

>>10650363
>rental truck, explosives, acid,
there's never been an attack using these in my city, probably in my county
if there has then it was probably the ira, 30+ years ago
or the nazis bombing us 70+ years ago
again, london is not even remotely representative of britain

>>10650403
>nothing intelligent
>ad hominem
QED, Cletus

>>10650406
Based nazis

>>10650401
no it's not
you're taking an exceptional case (london) and treating it as normal
is it reasonable to claim chicago or detroit's gun crime rate is representative of the usa?

>>10649991
>baned
Oh, you think cooking is your ally. But you merely adopted the kitchen; I was born in it, moulded by it.

>>10650406
>there's never been an attack using these in my city, probably in my county
Sounds like you live out in the boonies instead of a big city then. It's the same thing in pretty much any country. Having a lot of people crammed together in one big city is a recipe for violence. Cities always have worse crime statistics compared to smaller towns and more rural areas.

>>again, london is not even remotely representative of britain
Nor is Chicago representative of the US.

>>10650425
>is it reasonable to claim chicago or detroit's gun crime rate is representative of the usa?
It might be. Given that the violence takes place in large cities, and many/most of the population of the USA lives in those cities, an argument can be made that it's fair to use them as models.

>>10650405
if you are pleased with the things are going because you get your belly full, your water dish full and a nice pat in your head then you dont belong in this conversatiion

>>10650373
if these restrictions don't work in the city and aren't needed in the country why have them?

>>10650408
you are efinetly adding redddit to the list now

>>10650436
>I'm a first-year humanities grad student with an anti-capitalism boner.

>>10650437
how do you know they don't work in the city?
we don't know what the rate would be without these restrictions, it would probably be far higher, and for what? so you can play with a gun?
and i'm not talking about the country, i'm talking about my city, which has no knife or gun (or truck or acid or bomb) attacks

>>10650442
i dont argue with bottomfeeders, you have identified yourself. Go chase a ball or try to catch your own tail

>>10650440
>efinetly
>redddit
Cletus

>>10650389
>acid crime
>virtually non-existent

That's how it used to be in London too.

>>10650449
Enjoy spending the day with Martin Sklar. Maybe a little Jacob Weinstein for dessert.

>>10650431
i live in a city (260,000 people)
i don't recall hearing about terrible violent armed crimewaves in other british cities apart from london
obviously it's safer in the countryside, but i know my city, and i think it would be less safe if everyone started carrying weapons

>Nor is Chicago representative of the US.
exactly

>>10650456
>>10650451
what are you cooking today?

>>10650434
chicago's crime rate is representative of the usa? ok
>in 2016: 762 gun murders, 3,550 shooting incidents, and 4,331 shooting victims
this is what allowing guns in society looks like, is it?
count me out

>>10650478
Niggers, you mean

>>10650038
Yes. Poland here. Not specifically kitchen knives, but any knives, no exception for kitchen.

In reality it's a mostly dead law, which serves just as an excuse to slap an extra sentence on anyone caught with a knife where they definitely shouldn't be bringing a knife (say, a soccer match), especially that the limit is ridiculously low, something like 15cm? (that's 6 inches!) and you can obtain knives way longer than that at every shop that carries kitchen utensils. Still - it's a LAW!

>>10650468
Unsure yet. Lunch will likely be my usual and boring salad. Dinner? Might do a chimichurri flank steak. Have the stuff, but not sure I'll be home in time to marinate it well.

>>10650448
>how do you know they don't work in the city?
Empirical data. We can look at when various cities adopted different polices and then see what happened to the crime rates afterward.

For example, Chicago's infamous handgun ban. After being enacted there was no change in the rates of gun violence. In fact the rates of violence continued to increase according to national trends. Another example would be the 1994 US assault weapons ban. Ban was enacted, there were likewise no changes to the rates of gun grime or school shootings, etc, country-wide. After the ban expired there was no sudden increase either.

>> it would probably be far higher,
Except it's not. We know this. We've tried and seen it time and time again.

>> i'm talking about my city,
Name it and we'll talk further.

>>10650457
>i think it would be less safe if everyone started carrying weapons
On what facts do you base your opinion? Do you think that way "just because" or do you have reasons and data to back up your emotional knee-jerk response?

Sure is /ck/ in here

>>10650478
>this is what allowing guns in society looks like, is it?
Chicago doesn't allow guns, anon. It has had an outright ban on handguns for decades. Chicago is an example of how banning guns doesn't work.

>>10650484
i hope you enjoy your mcchicken

>>10650493
>Chicago is an example of how banning guns doesn't work.
No, it isn't. It's an example of how plugging one hole in a dam that has 1,000 holes will not stop a leak. To extrapolate that to say 'banning guns doesn't work' is idiotic. If you think otherwise, you are incredibly stupid.

>>10650485
banning guns where guns are already prevalent didn't make a huge positive change, because nobody handed in their guns
guns were still just as prevalent
that doesn't mean that suddenly allowing guns where they were previously banned (and virtually non-existent) wouldn't make a huge negative change
why do you think my city (hull) has a far lower gun crime rate than an american city?
could it be because virtually all of the guns are tightly locked up in army barracks and police stations?
demographics make a difference in terms of gang crime, violent crime etc too, but if all the guns in detroit were tightly locked away from the public (and i'm not saying a gun ban would achieve this), how could gun crime stay as high?

>>10650494
>mcchicken
I'll be sure to wave to you as you assemble it for me.

>>10650490
seems like common sense to me
if everyone was suddenly going around with weapons, then almost every fight would end in a stabbing or bludgeoning
that would be less safe for the person losing the fight

>>10650501
It's an excellent example of how banning guns doesn't work because we can look at the statistics and see what actually happened. If the ban was even the least bit effective then we'd expect to see a slight drop in the rates of gun-related crime. You can argue "but there are other leaks". Fine, but we'd still expect to see some kind of an effect. But we didn't. Fact is that we tried a ban and the ban didn't work. We see this over and over again. Not only in major cities with strict laws like Chicago, but also with countrywide actions like the NFA act of '68, the Clinton assault ban of '94, and so on. No effect on the crime rate.

They say that people who do not study history are doomed to repeat it. And that's what you're doing. You fail to realize that we've been there, done that, and it doesn't work. And yet you want to keep repeating it.

>>10650535
Brazil or Mexico is a better example

But the problem isn't guns

It's niggers

>>10650504
>why do you think my city (hull) has a far lower gun crime rate than an american city?
Lower population than major US cities, and cultural differences as well.

>could it be because virtually all of the guns are tightly locked up in army barracks and police stations?
I doubt it. Keeping guns tightly locked up didn't stop Neils Brevik from murdering dozens and dozens of children in Sweden.

>>but if all the guns in detroit were tightly locked away from the public..
If you waved a wand and made all the guns vanish then I'm sure gun crime would go down. But crime in general? Nope. You'd see an uptick in other sorts of crime to replace guns. That's what we're seeing in London right now. Gun crime is low, but home invasion robberies, stabbings, etc, are up.

>>10650535
allowing guns to be bought and sold with few restrictions, for decades, has created a problem that a gun ban can't solve
we don't have that problem, so the conditions that our gun ban is tackling are different
your gun ban is an ineffectual attempt to gather thousands of guns from uncooperative criminals, while other guns are being openly sold in gun shops all over the city
our gun ban is a zero tolerance prevention of anyone getting a gun in the first place

Hull
Annual crime rate is 30.6, i.e. 30.6 crimes committed per annum per 1000 workday people. The rate is 115% of a national crime rate. Violent crime makes 25.8% of all crimes committed in the postcode area. The total volume of violent crime is 13.5k and has increased by 13.1% when compared year-over-year in the period of April 2017 - March 2018.

>>10650517
>seems like common sense to me
The problem is that common sense is not very common.

>>if everyone was suddenly going around with weapons, then almost every fight would end in a stabbing or bludgeoning
They would? I work with a lot of older guys and whenever a shooting or whatever is on the news it common fodder for discussion. They told me that back when they were in high school it was extremely common for the male students to have knives, as well as guns, in school. This was in a semi-rural area and many people went hunting after school. Most of the boys carried pocketknives regardless. They still had bullying, fights, and whatnot, but nobody pulled a gun or a knife. We can also look at places in the world where weapons are not heavily restricted and yet there are no massive increases in crime as a result. Therefore we can conclude that are obviously a lot more factors at play here than the mere presence of weapons.

>my city isn't like London

>>10650468
Niggers.

>>10650585
I don't think you understand what you are arguing about. In Chicago you are not only banned from buying a new gun, you aren't allowed to have one period. It's not a ban on 'new sales' only. It's a ban on ownership and possession and has been in place since the 1970's.

>>10650587
Seems about the same as most US cities with a similar population and demographic makeup. Having such a small immigrant population helps things a great deal.

>>10650568
we could take any uk city and it would have a lower gun crime rate than a us city of comparable size
cultural differences are a factor too, but i don't think they explain the massive difference as much as the prevalence of guns does

anders breivik was an extreme exception
a determined terrorist, planning their attack, will often be able to get hold of guns wherever he is
a violent criminal will generally use what he has to hand, be that a gun, knife, acid, bat, or broken bottle

>>10650587
there are different levels of violent crime
there's a punch up outside a club on a saturday night, and then there's a drive by shooting
imagine if those crimes in hull all involved weapons, instead of hardly any of them involving weapons
the murder rate would be much higher

>>10650478
Uh, that's niggers.

>>10650611
Your city looks like a penis.

>>10650594
the difference is that they weren't carrying those knives as weapons
it's not illegal in britain to carry a knife for hunting, fishing, or any non-violent activity
if you live in a city, you might have trouble convincing the judge that your machete is for forestry, but if you can convince him, you're free to go

if you're carrying a weapon, why wouldn't you use it in a fight? that defeats the purpose of carrying it
a pint glass can be easily turned into a weapon, but it rarely is, because it's generally not considered as a weapon
whereas the switchblade in a guy's back pocket is there for one reason, and getting into a fight will make the guy carrying it reach for it, that's why he carries it
that's why weapons are banned here

>>10650619
>cultural differences are a factor too, but i don't think they explain the massive difference as much as the prevalence of guns does

Right, because you are simply mistaken about where the root of the problem actually lies. An inanimate object does not commit crimes on its own. It requires a person to commit the crime. People are the real cause here, not rocks, sticks, guns, cars, and broken bottles.

The city vs. rural crime rates in any country make this extremely clear.

For example, the various posts above discussing how London is not an accurate example of the rest of the UK. Or how certain US cities like Chicago are so much worse (in all sorts of crime, not just guns) than others.

Blaming the issue of inner-city violence on "guns" or "knives" is completely missing the main point: the people. It's as retarded as trying to cure cancer with a band-aid.

>>10650654

anywhere weapons are banned is for faggots. faggots are always preyed upon by chad criminals. you deserve violence.

>>10650661
i'd knock you out with one punch
weapons are for faggots
real men can handle their shit with their fists

>>10650655
Hull is 89% white, strong Labor supporting, and ruled by 2 women and a shabbos goy

>>10650655
the people of the uk, all over the uk, love a fight
just look at football hooliganism, or a town centre on a weekend night
it's brutal, even in relatively quiet, rural towns
those fights will happen whatever weapons are available
the availability of weapons will make those fights much more deadly
so it makes sense to make weapons unavailable, thereby limiting how dangerous these fights end up being

>>10650326
Do you live in africa?

>>10650689
We don't care about niggers enough to give up our guns. Go back to your liberal 90% white enclave

>>10650707
i'm not saying you should give up your guns
clearly you need them to fight off armed criminals
but we don't need guns to defend ourselves, because nobody else here has guns, and people who get into fights here generally do so willingly and are happy to keep it relatively civilised

>>10650535
The 1996 Australian NFA is evidence bans work. Although the population has been increasing the number of all homicides has been decreasing.

https://www.factcheck.org/2017/10/gun-control-australia-updated/

The problem in the US is an organization with only 5,000,000 members, the NRA, holds the other 325,000,000 people hostage to their lunatic gun mania.

>>10650689
>so it makes sense to make weapons unavailable, thereby limiting how dangerous these fights end up being

Wouldn't it make even more sense to address the fights directly?

>>10650744
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't using a weapon for self defense illegal under British law? I remember reading on the news recently that an old man in England encountered two thugs who broke into his home for a robbery. One of the men had a screwdriver and threatened the guy. Richard Osborne or something like that? Anyway, a fight ensued at which point the old fart managed to stab one of the robbers with his own screwdriver. Robber dies, and they arrested the old guy for fucking MURDER when he was defending himself inside his own home?

>>10650001
kek
underrated

>>10650757
The NRA isn't the issue, the voters as a whole are. You can easily look up online how much lobbying groups pay to the gov't. NRA is far far far down the list.

>>lunatic gun mania
Just wait until some fuckwit wants to ban what you enjoy for some silly reason. One of these days the'll be coming for your computer and smartphone because of "hackers" or "kiddie porn" even though you are 100% law-abiding.

>>10650767
>Wouldn't it make even more sense to address the fights directly?
how are you gonna do that though?
ban footy?
ban alcohol?

>they arrested the old guy for fucking MURDER when he was defending himself inside his own home?
yeah i don't agree with that
using weapons for self-defense in your home should be allowed
if you can show you were up against intruders then surely anything goes
best plan seems to be getting a couple of dogs
be a shame for them to be put down but at least you were safe in your home

>>10650757
Don't you think that the fact that most bans don't work and you have to cherrypick for successful examples suggests that trying to solve violence problems with bans is probably a bad idea?

>>10650805
>Just wait until some fuckwit wants to ban what you enjoy for some silly reason. One of these days the'll be coming for your computer and smartphone because of "hackers" or "kiddie porn" even though you are 100% law-abiding.
this

>>10650838
>how are you gonna do that though?
I have no idea. I don't have an answer. I simply know that bans don't work, as we can see from history.

>ban footy?
>ban alcohol?
Lol, yeah, we both know how well that would work out.

>>get a couple of dogs
People want to ban those too

>>10650102
Get a life and bin that knife

ONLY COWARDS CARRY

>>10650849
>Just wait until some fuckwit wants to ban what you enjoy for some silly reason

Dead kids
Silly reason
Pick one, asshole.

>>10650348
sounds like weak genes "no preparation for self-preservation"