/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>10626561
Mom science that artificial sweeteners are carcinogenic

>>10626561
because of "muh aspartame gives you cancer"

Diet pop is just bad in general. People only drink it because it "sounds" healthy

sugar industry lies

>>10626615
No one's saying it's good for you but the fact remains one of the biggest contributors to heart disease type 2 diabetes, stroke, and many health complications in later life is being overweight. Between diet soda and regular only one of those has any potential to contribute to weight gain.

Ill drink coke zero.
Keep telling yourself you dont want cancer so you might as well drink regular soda and gallons of fruit "juice". And how you could easily lose 20lbs if you tried.
Fat fucks.
Water, coke zero or my proton juice.

>>10626661
You can drink pop and not be fat dude. Have some fucking self control, you can enjoy sweets

>mfw some diet sodas don't have aspartame anymore

>>10626678
>Cyber visionary
Yes, in 1984. Now he's just another nerdy old draft dodger.

>>10626683
He wasn't even a cyber-visionary. When he wrote Neuromancer he had no idea how a hard disk drive even worked. His biggest successful predictions have more to do with politics and sociology than technology.

>>10626561
for stupid fucks to feel superior for a fleeting moment

>>10626572
>>10626570
science is pretty clear that it does

>>10626561
Some people think it tastes better than regular coke.

>>10626702
>When he wrote Neuromancer he had no idea how a hard disk drive even worked
You don't need to be a gay ass nerd if you're a savant.

>>10626677
I didn't say everyone who drinks soda is going to get fat, if you can drink soda and maintain a healthy weight it doesn't matter which you drink. I'm saying the fact that diet cannot contribute to weight gain does make it objectively 'healthier' for lack of better words.

>>10626561
They force fed Canadian lab rats several hundred % more than their daily intake of liquid of diet soda and they got cancer. That's literally it

>>10626785
>Our study has shown that aspartame is a multipotential carcinogenic compound whose carcinogenic effects are also evident at a daily dose of 20 milligrams per kilogram of body weight
>a can of Diet Coke contains about 180 mg of aspartame

>>10627066
you're talking like 20mg/kg is a lott but 8 cans of diet coke will get you to that amount.

>>10627077
yes, five gallons of diet coke a week is a lot.
50 gallons of diet coke over two months, also a fucking lot.

>>10627114
>yes, five gallons of diet coke a week is a lot.
it's not, most people that drink diet soda drink diet soda all day, every day. it's like smoking weed, the occasional smoker is an exception to the rule not otherwise.

>>10627128
>it's not, most people that drink diet soda drink diet soda all day, every day
5 gallons of coke a week is a lot dude.
That's 90 oz a fucking day. They're drinking nearly three-quarter gallon of coke a day? Shit man, that's how much water I push when I'm working in a 120F environment.

If they kill themselves chugging more diet coke than most people can drink water than they need to see a doctor.

>>10627128
>most people that drink diet soda drink 8 a day, every day
prove it.
>>10627143
> Shit man, that's how much water I push when I'm working in a 120F environment.
you should drink more water desu senpai.

>>10627171
>you should drink more water desu senpai
>drinking 3/4 gallon while on the line
Sorry I can't constantly run to the fucking bathroom and I'm not a camel? Holy shit how big do you think my bladder is? No sane person drinks more than 3/4 gallon while working an 8-10 hour job. You'll get fired pissing every 30 minutes.

>>10627215
>120 degrees for 10 hours
>pee every thirty minutes if i drink 12 ounces an hour
are you paid to stand perfectly still? do you not sweat?

What they should do is make a diet soda with 5 different artificial sweeteners. That way, there won't be enough of any single sweetener to have negative effects on your body. It's sort of like distributing your weight over a sheet of ice so you don't fall in the lake.

>>10627244
>people actually think this is how cancer works

>>10627270
What, if you get too much of one thing, it's going to have a negative effect on one particular system in your body. If you get a little bit of a bunch of things, then no sweetener chemical reaches the critical amount required to have a deleterious effect.

>>10627227
I wear a damp neckerchief that I rewet with cool water when I can, or at least I did. Wearing the appropriate attire really helps, you actually start to want that insulation after a while to prevent dehydration. And if you get an excuse to wet yourself and wash away the sweat do it. I've seen salt crystals literally grow on peoples skin once it dries.

And no I don't stand still, but yeah you have to stay on that line man.

>>10627300
you really should drink more water. just space it out better if you can. i drink a gallon a day in the summer and i'm only in the heat half the time at most, though i'm moving constantly. i don't pee every thirty minutes because i'm just replacing water lost. you can lose 8 lbs in far less than 10 hours in summer heat.

>>10626561
Diet soda is good for you, just look at this graph

>>10626561
People are dumb

>>10626561
I always do a super burp when I drink that.
I love that.

>>10627285
>people actually think this is how cancer works

>>10627285
there is a free book:

David Servan-Schreiber:
Reflexes anticancer au quotidien

> I can't find an english translation.

>Tastes like shit
>Exacerbates diabetes
>Causes you to feel hungry
>Maintains your obesity-causing saccharine sweetness addiction
>Probably still causes cancer

Just fucking juice fruit, mix it with soda water, and add a teaspoon of sugar you lazy cunts.

>>10626785
Aspartame is literally the most tested food additive in the fucking world. Look it up.

PEople look for reasons to shit on diet soda because it sounds too good to be true. That’s literally it. It can damage your teeth I guess.

>>10627300
If you're really getting dehydrated and drinking enough water to prevent that makes you urinate more frequently, there's probably something wrong with your kidneys.

>>10627869
>>Tastes like shit
Opinions
>>Exacerbates diabetes
[citation needed]
>>Causes you to feel hungry
How do you know what makes other people feel hungry? It never makes me feel hungry and my word is at least as good as yours.
>>Maintains your obesity-causing saccharine sweetness addiction
Or...you know, helps you satisfy it without causing further damage.
>>Probably still causes cancer
>the science is settled! SETTLED!

>>10628781
>the science is settled! SETTLED!
So I can live a long for filling life and drink sips?

>>10628787
>for filling
Jesus

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>>10626615
>bubbly colored water is bad for you
Post peer-reviewed studies or stfu sugar shill.

>>10626677
This. I'd rather be obese than drink diet Coke though. That shit is vile. I've only recently tried Coke Zero and it was decent, but still a poor man's version of the real thing.
Seriously, if you're gonna drink soda go all in, it's not like the diet version is any better for you. You're just getting an inferior version with the same amount of cancer in it.

>>10626678
Reminds me of how pissed I was once Diet Pepsi opted out for Splenda a couple years ago. It just didn't taste that great; definitely waaaaay flatter and a little less sweeter compared to when they still used aspartame. Thankfully that disaster is already over.

>>10628865
Bolt Thrower doesn't start with M.

>>10629091
coke and coke zero make my teeth feel weird. diet coke has a nice aftertaste

>>10627066

Source: some hippie faggot or other

>>10628781
Zero calorie sweeteners being linked to diabetes and weight gain are both pretty strongly documented you fat fuck.
>This chemical that tricks my body into releasing insulin doesn't affect my diabetes at all
>This chemical that causes my blood sugar levels to crash doesn't make me hungry and therefore eat more calories to compensate

But again, your defensiveness about consuming candy water kind of makes your opinions on the matter moot anyway; I wouldn't expect someone addicted to heroin to acknowledge it dangerous enough to quit either.

What they actually mean is

>You drink diet soda? Don't you know that tastes way worse than both water and regular soda?

>>10626561
>why does this meme even exist?
So that stupid people will spend all their time and energy arguing over whether it's true or not instead of realizing that both are so bad for you the distinction is meaningless.

Quit both if you care about your health.

>>10628874
so you made a list of every company that uses corn or corn byproducts?
it'd be more informative if you showed how most of that list are owned by like 4 or 5 conglomerates.

>>10630060
>Zero calorie sweeteners being linked to diabetes and weight gain are both pretty strongly documented you fat fuck.

>Stevia preloads significantly reduced postprandial glucose levels compared to sucrose preloads (p < .01), and postprandial insulin levels compared to both aspartame and sucrose preloads (p < .05).

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0195666310000826

>The concentrations of acid‐insoluble acylcarnitine (AIAC) in serum were higher in the H‐SV group than in the H‐C and H‐SC groups and the acyl/free carnitine level in liver was significantly higher in the H‐SV group than in the N‐C group.

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1002/jsfa.3906

>In prediabetics, insulin, HbA1c, HOMA index, CRP, and vitamin D levels were ameliorated only in the stevia group. The attrition rate was similar between groups (~8%), but the majority of the stevia group suggested that they preferred this approach.

https://www.endocrine-abstracts.org/ea/0037/ea0037EP616.htm

>Aquatic extract of stevia significantly reduced the FBS, triglycerides, MDA, ALT, AST levels and normalized catalase activity in treated rats compared with diabetic rats (p<0.05). In addition to this, stevia surprisingly, increased PPARγ and insulin mRNA levels in treated rats (p<0.05). Furthermore, stevia compensated for the histopathological damage in diabetic rats.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4842244/

>Steviol glycosides as stevioside and rebaudioside A are natural, non-caloric sweet-tasting organic molecules, present in the extracts of the scrub plant Stevia rebaudiana, which are widely used as sweeteners in consumer foods and beverages. TRPM5 is a Ca2+-activated cation channel expressed in pancreatic β-cells. We show potentiation of TRPM5 with stevioside, rebaudioside A and their aglycon steviol.

https://www.canadianjournalofdiabetes.com/article/S1499-2671(17)30629-9/abstract

>>10626561
I heard diet coke can digest a penny!

>>10632168
I HEARD IT'S ONLY ONE ATOM AWAY FROM BEING TOILET BOWL CLEANER
FWD THIS MESSAGE TO YOUR FRIENDS

>>10632168
Diet and regular can both do this. They also fully dissolve bone given enough time.

>>10632314
Would not surprise me if true.

>>10632168
When I'm high I can swallow the sun

>>10632347
>Hi, I get all my opinions from new age blog writers, may I make your acquaintance?

>>10632389
Enjoy your obesity and osteoperosis.

>>10626561

'diet soda is poison' is a meme. just drink it in moderation and you'll be fine.

it's bad for your teeth though. hope you brush regulrarly.

I unironically prefer the taste of diet pop.

>>10628860
Good one anon, but those are symptoms of chronic masturbation, not aspartame consumption.

>>10628865
the "Made-Up" company? Literally only one of those things was invented by Monsanto.

https://academic.oup.com/ajcn/article/96/6/1249/4571428

nice article

>>10632314
Tim's mom told me this when she gave us a ride home from the game last weekend.

>>10626561
Diet coke actually is worse than regular soda because it's basically just like chemicals and stuff...

>>10626561
I rather drink poison then extra calories

>>10634904
>it's basically just like chemicals and stuff
Beyond the atomic level everything is, dipshit.

>>10626561
I usually only drink water, but whenever I do drink a regular sugary drink I don't get any cravings later, as long as I drink it slow. If I drink any diet soda I get massive cravings later on, to the point that it prevents me from going to sleep.

Results may vary and everyone is different, but I'm careful with that stuff now.

>>10626561
Because sugar is a pretty fucking big business.

diet drinks are bad for your teeth and somewhat bad for your digestion but i wouldn't say it's as bad as a normal can of soda

>>10626785
Each day you live increases your chances of getting cancer.

>>10634904
>hasn't realized that all food is nothing but chemicals

>>10635700
this tho

>>10626678
Woah, deep.