/ck/ - Food & Cooking

americans spend 7% of their income on food compared to 22% in the 80’s. why have we cheaped out? no wonder every one is dying of the aids flu.

>>10615711
Probably just minorities
although I must say its pretty easy to buy basic ingredients to cook but most people don't which is a huge waste of money.

Posting early so as to dissuade everything op was attempting to accomplish:

We are able to pay for things fine. You can get a shit ton of fresh organic produce, chicken, breads and regular snacks too even on a tight budget. Hell, I can get my weekly shopping in and still buy a bar of fancy pants dark choco. I think the guy was right talking about minorities. Junk food is cheap as heck but they are always the ones on EBT with carts full of soda and "value pack peanut butter product"

Americans are too stupid to grocery shop properly.

Silly, hunger is a myth made up by poor people who don't want to work!

>>10615781
This

>>10615711
But are the people in the CNN article real people or poor people?

>>10615795
"Low pay is correlated with being female, working part-time, aged 20-29 years or over 65 years, holding low level of educational attainment, and being non-European." Charles Waldegrave, a tireless chronicler of poverty, says a study into the working poor will more than affirm what's known. "We've got the statistics for them. What the Government is worried about is what's happening to these people."

The degradation of the traditional family model is to blame for this. And niggers.

>>10615781
SEVEN
LIMES

>>10615711

>>10615825
>correlation
o boy, remember global warming is caused by Pirate's disparition.

>>10615727
'Murican here. I spend about 10% and my girlfriend and I eat very heatlhy.

>>10615859
LAND OF OPPORTUNITY

>>10615728
>POC
>Needing to buy food.
Anon, if they are not getting enough subsidized food then we are obviously doing something wrong as a country.

>>10615728
>Probably just minorities
Well, best to just assume that not worry about it. Otherwise you run the risk of helping a person.

why don't mods remove these threads? it's hardly food related. it's just /bant/ level shitposting and it doesn't belong on this board

>>10615953
because it's not about alcohol so therefore it's /ck/ related

>>10615953
Fuck up amer*can scum.

>>10615953
This is the person who makes "yurop is doomed!!1" threads

>>10615953
>triggered americuck

why cant americans stop getting BLOWN the FUCK out?

>>10615781
That image isn't proof that Americans don't know how to shop. It's proof that Gwyneth Paltrow (honestly probably her PA, 'cause I doubt she did it herself) is an idiot.

>>10615982
Fucking this

Poor people make stupid purchasing decisions news at 11

>>10616030
>Americans make stupid purchasing decisions news at 11
ftfy
the middle class and up are just as bad, they just have the dosh to afford it

havent you heard the hot may may of needing 200$/month to spend on groceries?

>>10616051
200 for one person?

>>10615904
>implying minorities are people

>>10616067
yeah mate
americans cant shop for shit

>>10615843
How else are they gonna garnish their booze?

>Food Stamps
>Food Pantries

Maybe fat people.

>>10615727
>americans spend 7% of their income on food compared to 22% in the 80’s. why have we cheaped out?

Because transportation and housing cost the other 93%.

>>10616051
>>10616067
>spending less than $50/week and still eating a diverse, nutritious diet
I'd like to see you try, you little worms probably still have mommy making your food for you.

Healthy mode:
>no potatoes
>no bananas
>no cereal
>no rice or pasta
>no frozen food
>no prepackaged/meal kit/powdered food product items

>>10615752

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Food_desert

>hurrr let me spout bullshit cause I'm ignorant hurrdurr

>>10616200
>no bananas
why are americans afraid of bananas now?

>>10616210
Made up liberal propaganda. They have those bad offerings because that's what they buy.

>>10616051
i need 200 per week

>>10616210
Foid deserts are where niggers live, they drive out with theft and robberies. That doesn't matter anyway, they only buy crap foods.
>>10616214
Full of sugar and radiation

>>10616210
>https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Food_desert
it's honestly bewildering that this is possible in the united states. the Free Market is left unchecked so that people can start businesses to get other people what they need and are therefore willing to pay for -- why are there no grocers in the ghetto nor in small towns and suburbs served by strip malls? here in montreal, even deppaneurs, the equivalent to a bodega, often have at least cereals, bread, eggs, and dairy products like milk and cheese, albeit often overpriced.

ps
>m.
gas + bomb yrself phoneposter

>>10616224
>they drive out with theft and robberies.
then how do liquor stores, check-cashing places, and gas stations manage to exist despite being much higher risk in terms of burglary and robbery?

>>10616219
That shit argument works both ways. That's what they buy because that's all their offered.

>>10616220
$80-100 and I eat good. Grocery bill is much higher because of other stuff.
>>10616232
Bulletproof glass barriers
>>10616237
It's ghetto culture that permeates their every fiber. That's white people food.

>>10616224
>>10616219

>hurr everyone has access to healthy food
>turns out they don't
>hurr it's the children's fault they don't have access to healthy food

the absolute state of amerifats

this is chemtrails-tier mental gymnastics

>>10616200
>no potatoes
>no rice
Those are staple food, you dumb american scum.

>>10616224
>americans are so afraid of natural sugars and ""chemicals"" that they wont even eat fruit anymore

>>10616240
>Bulletproof glass barriers
why not erect those around the tills at grocers then? fast food places in the US already all have them

If you spend less than $50/week on groceries, you aren't thrifty, you're just a DYEL.

Sincerely,
Your Friends from /fit/

>>10616214
Tons of sugar and more "starchy" like potatoes than other fruit.
They have fewer good nutrients for the calories and you should do better. Bananas and potatoes are homeless poverty tier and real people shouldn't be eating starchy carbs like that.

>>10616232
>here in montreal, even deppaneurs, the equivalent to a bodega, often have at least cereals, bread, eggs
We have those too, in ghettos and stuff they are usually mexican markets. Their products are twice the price of the normal store and some people have to buy them anyway because they don't have any transportation to the regular grocery store. Imagine trying to take home a week's shopping for 4 kids on the fucking bus.

>then how do liquor stores, check-cashing places, and gas stations manage to exist
They have bulletproof glass and are much, much, much smaller than grocery stores, so it's easier for a small staff to keep an eye on everything. You could have a grocery store where literally everything is behind glass and an employee has to reach your eggs, milk, etc for you, except you couldn't because that's impractical. Grocery stores are not just driven out by product theft but also by a lack of regular employees and non-theft crime, like destroyed property or employee assault, to which the company must respond with settlements.

I think niggers cause these conditions for themselves but unfortunately all people in a ghetto aren't just niggers, and some innocent people get affected.

>>10616232
you can't just open a store
it's not profitable to open a store in suburban sprawl areas
it's not possible for you to compete with large chains
grocery profits are from alcohol, cigs, soft drinks, snacks and household goods

in ghettos you're competing with free handouts from churches and soup kitchens likewise

1000 cal for $1 is a good baseline rate for shopping. People just don't know what to buy is all

>>10616243
>chemtrails-tier mental gymnastics
i once met a guy at a pub who honestly believed in chemtrails, and i humored him but really had to ask "why would they spray shit from the sky when they could just put it in the water or something, it seems like an inefficient method"

he didnt really have an answer

>>10616246
see >>10616260
It's a staple if you're a medieval peasant or a slave. Eating potatoes and rice are starving Kenyan tier foods, like the mosquito patties or eating dirt. Rice and potatoes have nearly zero nutritional content with only adverse health effects (insulin spikes and crashes, blood pressure, more). The only benefit to them is that you won't feel hungry.

>calls me dumb American scum
>he knows less about proper diet and nutrition than an American
>he can afford internet to shitpost with but still subjects himself to eating the nutritional equivalent of raw flour
>not just in desperation but considers them "staples"
Sad, many such cases!

>>10616243
It's not my problem they as a community did this to themselves. If there was money to be made in the hood, capitalist multinational corporations would be all over it. Quit making excuses for animals.

I'm glad the american are dying slowly, victory is better this way.

>>10616294
It's both, along with our food supply. All these companies are satanic.

>>10616294
It's for global dimming not poisoning though it does have that as a mild side effect. Check out http://www.geoengineeringwatch.org/

The evidence that it's happening is overwhelming.

>>10616311
We're just getting taken down a notch. The ultimate goal of communists and socialism lite is to have everyone poor with a tiny elite ruling.

>>10616329
1/10 troll, real conspiracy retards don't say "check it out" when they provide a stupid link

>>10615781
Unironically this.

>the poor useless people are starving!
>It's not fresh enough need more gibs
>Wtf its not organic locally originated

>>10616338
Well I'm phone posting. I assumed you would be somewhat of a questioning inquisitive person. Guess not.

>>10616350
I bet you eat fast food too.

>>10616276
>you can't just
>it's not profitable
>it's not possible
Land of the Free.

>>10616273
>I think niggers cause these conditions for themselves but unfortunately all people in a ghetto aren't just niggers, and some innocent people get affected.
actually, in compton, THE ghetto that sets the standard of what's hood, the boomer and gen x generations actually did try to self-gentrify, but it was the LA riots that caused so much damage and distrust of whitey and whitey's systems that the hood probably will never recover from

though my point still stands, with modern advancements in security systems, it's not unreasonable to secure a grocery store against theft and robbery

>>10616295
why are amerimutts literally afraid of food?

>>10616356
chemtrails is bottom of the barrel conspiracy retardation, come on dude.
With things like lizard people and flat earth, you know that the person is batshit insane - which is somewhat of an excuse. Things like chemtrail belief means that the individual is just plain stupid and probably shouldn't be trusted with anything but bagging groceries.

please fuck off back to /x/

>>10616364
Occasionally. Who doesn't? You one of those pretentious snobs?

>>10616379
Ahyuk ahyuk you tell them cletus.

All this is due to the housing supply. Rent and mortgages are absurd in many large cities. Cities they studied that are also sanctuary cities. If we didn't have so many poor immigrants, the housing situation would be better, and these types of situations would solve themselves. None of this happened when this was a majority white Christian nation that followed the traditional nuclear family model.
>>10616367
This affects me in no way. None of these situations apply to me, and you wish to use this against me somehow. It's bizarre, honestly.

>>10616367
>with modern advancements in security systems, it's not unreasonable to secure a grocery store against theft and robbery

So why don't you do that and become a millionaire?

>>10616371
Stay ignorant it's probably safer for you that way
https://youtu.be/WBG81dXgM0Q

>>10615781
I had a not super close friend who got food stamps, I don't know if there are both state and federal programs, but he got something like 200-300 dollars a month, and this was for a healthy 25 year old who was single with no dependents. Is this $120 a month thing BS? Also, way to pad the bill with limes Paltrow, you fucking cunt.

>>10616356
>I'm phone posting
please kill yourself

>>10616392
Your post is less original than mine. Throw your computer away

>>10616388
>saying "it's viable" somehow translates to "it will make you a millionaire" to the buttblasted yank

>>10616397
throw your life away lad ohohhohhoho
but please go back to /x/, although it is sort of funny; I didn't even know that unironic chemtrail believers existed nowadays.

>>10616404
You just told a story about one

The "starving American poor" meme is hilarious because that's literally impossible. Our poor people are fucking fat and we need reduced welfare to help offset it.

>>10615711
>basic food
lol please people spend ebt on junk food and soda

>>10615711
Those people have an insane definition of "can't afford"

>>10616164
There it is. Food isn't expensive now. Housing is expensive now. People could buy all the food they wanted if only they all decided to be homeless. Medical bills destroy people's finances now, too. Why are all these highly educated poverty analysts such fucking retards? Why do "journalists" knowingly perpetuate deceptive clickbait myths about things they know aren't a problem?

>>10615728

Poor and stupid white people dominante the welfare line sorry

>>10616390
>way to pad the bill with limes
Is this a meme?
Limes are like $0.25 at my grocer, a $1.75 worth of limes is hardly padding out a bill that is supposedly $29. But I will admit buying 7 limes for a weeks worth of food on a tight budget is poor spending regardless.
That image is bullshit because the only way that is remotely close to $29 is if all that produce is organic and the eggs are free range organic. I could probably buy all of that for $10-15 (depending on sales).

>>10616668
>Food isn't expensive now
If that's true, it's only because people are being retards and insisting on eating out every meal. If you cook from scratch food is incredibly inexpensive.

>>Why do "journalists" knowingly ....
Because money, anon.

>>10615711
>Half America can't afford basic food
This is good, let the ghettos starve to death, that's what they're here for.

>>10616746
Are you in FL or something? I'm in VA and limes are like 50 cents each in season, and about $1 each out of season.

>>10615711
thats because they are morons who waste their money on chicken wings while the buther pretty much gives them away for free and all you need is barbecue sauce, flour, salt, garlic powder, pepper and old oil

I blame Trump and the russians

>>10616792
This but ironically.

>>10616765
Yeah, that's what I'm saying. There have always been journalistic diversionary tactics like celebrity crap. Now they like to pretend to take a story head on, then just transpose another story right under the headline. What the fuck? You've always had to read between the lines to get a little bit closer to the truth, but this is retarded. I think it's because of extremely low attention spans and social media. All television news is people making short-format quips back and forth at each other.

>>10616243
They literally get free breakfast and lunch at school, 75% of which gets thrown out because they all just eat hot cheetos and mambas

>>10616792
>>10616794
I blame Zuckerberg. No irony.

>>10616273
Cornerstores in the states sell the same stuff. Many of them also have delis where you can buy cheap sandwiches. The problem is that the people in these neighborhoods simply don't buy any healthy food.

>>10616788
Damn, sorry to hear that. Right now they are 5/$1 at my local store. So you can see why I thought people were being a bit odd going on about how the limes were driving up the bill.

we need a gweneth paltrow thread where we try to live on her sick twisted tweet picture for a week. what a disaster.

It's amazing how you don't have to jump through this many linguistic hoops and qualifiers to say that Venezuelans can't afford food.

>>10616337
>The ultimate goal of communists and socialism lite is to have everyone poor with a tiny elite ruling.
That's capitalism.

>>10616861
This

>>10616200
>No potatoes, bananas, cereal, rice or pasta
Get the fuck out of here. Also it's not hard to spend less than 50 dollars a week on food if you're only feeding yourself.

>>10616295
I bet you don't eat bread either, you fucking faggot

>>10615781
>SNAP
>SUPPLEMENTAL Nutritional Assistance Program
It's not SUPPOSED to be enough for a week. It's just supposed to take some of the pressure off.

>>10615859
I bet you believe one in 4 women get raped in college too.

>>10615711
Sucks to be those poor niggers. I waste more food a week than they spend.

>>10616402
If it's viable why dont you do it? Surely it will turn you a hearty profit if you do.

>>10615781
>in australia a single lime cost a dollar.
Imagine spending 1/3 of your food budget for the week on LIMES.

>>10617962
No that's literally every government system in history. Every government becomes a plutocracy, given enough time and a content (or at least semi-content) populace.

>>10618534
They do, you don’t know shit

there really should be a distinction made when discussing this topic between people buying food for themselves and someone buying food for them and their family (to which these studies largely apply)

I would imagine everyone in this thread fits the former category so theres not really much point discussing it if you haven't yet had to do the former

not even Amerian. not that it matters as it applies universally

>>10615812
This has to be the dumbest motherfucker on the planet. And that was like 1/100th of a rep

>>10618693
>have sex
>regret it
>rape!
>get called out
>instead of saying you were wrong, double down and make a sex tape

>>10616858
Kek

>>10615711
I have an entry level job and I can afford whatever food I want. I made wild caught shrimp fajitas yesterday. Food is cheap as fuck. These people must work part time at 711 and have 3 bastard children.

>>10615727
there are dozens of other things that people think that they need these days that assume large portions of the average person's budget.
everyone didn't have a cell phone and a cell phone bill and all the other money pit, ego stroking bullshit they have now.

>>10616232
>people can start businesses to get other people what they need and are therefore willing to pay for

thats the point. niggers arent willing to play for things.
you wanna open any kind of store in the hood, you better be prepared to make a literal happening bunker out of it, because otherwise you're gonna get robbed into bankruptcy within a week.

>>10615711
those people are who my ex referred to as the permanent pajama crew

>>10616232
>no grocers in the ghetto
where the fuck is this ghetto? i live on the southwest side of chicago (the bad part with the blacks) and can effortlessly take a bus and pick up groceries. theres 3 major chain grocery stores and countless mom and pop convience stores within a mile radius of my apartment

>>10620029
Educate yourself, food deserts are a major issue all across over the US including in Chicago.

>>10620029
is right tho and I think >>10620044 is just talking out his ass. I thought there was nothing grocerywise around me in Reno, NV and thought I lived in a "food desert" but literally got on a bus and was at a grocery store ten minutes later shopping for food. turns out I just live in a desert

>>10620056
>turns out I just live in a desert
softkek

>>10620044
please find a location in chicago that qualifies as a food desert then. give me the street address of the people who cannot get to food

>>10619817
>things that people think they need
>cell phones
Yeah no. If you don't have a cell and you try to get a job, you'll be laughed out of the building.

> half
Considering less than 10 percent of Americans are considered poor, I would say this is an issue of people not living within their means. I can't prove it but my anecdote would be my cousins who are both working decent jobs still manage to be broke as fuck. They own way too many cars, waste money on stupid ass shit they don't need, and smoke cigs.

>>10616210
>live in suburbs
>my backyard opens into a gold course
>everyone is a member of the country club
>nearest grocery store is a 20 minute drive away
>23.5% of Americans live in a food desert, meaning that they live more than one mile from a supermarket in urban or suburban areas, and more than 10 miles from a supermarket in rural areas.

I technically live in a food desert. what a worthless classification. 90% of rich ass gated communities are technically food deserts

>>10615711
*sucks teeth*
ayo
*buys 500 dollar shoes*
fuck whypipo

>>10616698
>be 13% of the population
>also make up 47% of food stamps recipients
>be 65% of the population
>make up 51% of food stamp recipients
...
>hurrr stupid poor wypipo make up most of recipients, nevermind the fact that they're the majority and niggers still manage to make up almost half of recipient numbers

>>10615781

>>10615711
How do they fat then?

They Ameripoors now?

>>10620160
One thing is the cheapest phone with Android on it bought outright so you can receive SMS, calls, and can install whatever chat app your coworkers use, alongside an economical SIM-only plan. That, today, is about the same as having a landline 30 years ago; you can do without but it's gonna be tough.

It's another thing to buy the newest flagship phone which is nearly $1000, on a 2 year contract with """unlimited""" data, and then upgrading to the next one as soon as it comes out because you "don't want to look like a loser/poor". All so you can physically humble-brag, play Angry Birds in Ultra settings on the toilet, and take ultra-crisp foodie photos and selfies for Instagram. If it makes you happy, then go for it, but to me it seems like the stupidest thing.

I have a midrange phone and upgrade whenever it starts getting bogged down by system updates, but LineageOS is pretty good at countering that. Even if I had the money I wouldn't buy a flagship, there's so many other things I'd rather waste my cash on.

>Nearly 51 million households don't earn enough to afford a monthly budget that includes housing, food, child care, health care, transportation and a cell phone
it's the health care and child care that people can't afford.

>>10618528
This. You have to work to qualify for any sort of assistance unless you are also taking in disability benefits. As a poorfag, it helps so much. You know, my EBT comes out to just a little bit less than what I pay monthly in income taxes. So, I guess getting rid of income taxes for people who make less than 20k a year would also help lower everyone else's taxes significantly while getting people out of the system. But, you know, both parties here are on the same team and they like how the revenue lines their pockets.

>>10620239
The actual solution is just to kill the poor, though.

>>10615728
>Probably just minorities
An entire generation and a half of white people got memed into taking out $100k+ student loans and are now poor forever

>>10620214
We're the only country where you can stock your entire pantry and fridge with shit food that is over-processed and is absolutely horrible for your health for cheap. Shelf-life is key when it comes to the price, before anyone tries to bullshit that "study" that found it was like $3 cheaper to get healthy foods. Yeah, it's cheaper until you have to restock everything in a week for the same price. We get fat for a variety of reasons. I think it's GMOs and added hormones. I went to another poor family's home and they had a 12 year old daughter that looked like she was 22. She was like 5'6", had big tiddies, a caboose to match, and she just over-all developed WAY too early. They all ate cheap foods with a long shelf life, including cheap, hormone-added meats and dairy.

>>10620254
Only if they aren't white.

>>10620277
>I think it's GMOs and added hormones
No it's because people aren't aware how calorie dense certain foods are.

>>10620254
Then who will staff the floor of the fancy restaurants for $2.38/hr? Who's going to vendor stuff at games and events for $8.75/hr? Just show some kind of mercy and appreciation for the poor working-class that does these lucrative jobs for the well-off's convenience and you won't have to come to the conclusion of killing them off like some kind of monster.

>>10620305
Calories don't fucking make pre-pubescent kids develop like they're 17.

Poor stays poor. Rich gets richer.

I'd rather the Bezos and Gates have all the money.

I'd gamble all the money away anyway.

>>10615711
half of america is clinically retarded.

I am Canadian, and every time I travel to the US (30 states now) I am surprised at
1. how fucking cheap food is.
and
2. how fucking stupid the average American is.

I'm not saying they're all stupid, but it should be considered an epidemic at this point.

>>10620325
One if the theories is that xenoestrogens are to blame. They are present in the water supply, plastic packaging and water bottles. Anything is packaged that way, you can't escape it. Simply blaing GMO food doesn't cut it, we don't have much GMO food here and still the development of girls and boys is affected.

>>10620347
>2. how fucking stupid the average American is.
Out of curiosity, could you give an example?

>>10616200
>hey /ck/ prove to me you can have a balanced nutritious diet, but don't use food! looks like you lose

not really surprising, Americans are fat because they don't know when their next meal might be.

Thus it pays off to have lots of fat rolls in case you have to go a while without food.

>>10620354
Probably the best is going to walmart in the US vs. going to walmart in Canada

Walmart in Canada is low tier as expected, but holy fucking shit. Walmart in the US is terrifying.
And hilarious.

And maybe i'm biased, but I can't take mouth breathers with southern accents seriously.

>>10620378
to be fair

Some of the brightest and nicest people I’ve met were actually form big cities in Texas.

Texas always surprises me

>>10615953
I really hope a woman posted this.

>>10620320
Robots are getting better every single day

>>10615781
SNAP is supplemental. As in it supplement your food budget, not consist of it

>>10615711
IPhones, cable tv, and tattoos are more important

>>10615812
This would have been satisfying if that stack of plates fell on him

The article is bullshit. Food is cheap here - much cheaper than in Europe or Australia. Americans have a busy culture. If you are not working, society considers you weird. For the poor, not working is a luxury, particularly for those who are working 12 to 14 hours a day. Thy don't have the time to cook, or are too exhausted after work to put in the effort. Convenience is king in America.
>>10620277
>I think it's GMOs and added hormones.
Confirmed retard. Thank god this isn't /sci/ you would be chastised.

>>10620160
My phone is literally free. I think I spent $50 on it and I get 500 free texts and 200 free minutes per month. If I need more I can buy more. If you get unlimited talk and text, it's only what, like $40 per month? That's one shift of minimum wage work.

>>10620320
>$2.38/hr
This is such meme bullshit. Waitresses make ridiculous money. When I was in high school (only a few years ago, don't pull the boomer card on me) I had a friend who was a waitress and she would show up and complain that she "only" made $200 after an 8 hour shift at the shitty hole in the wall Mexican restaurant she worked at over the weekend. This was mostly tip money so there's no way she reported it on taxes. Meanwhile I worked 30 hours per week at a grocery store and I was lucky if my paycheck broke $200 after taxes. Being a server is like winning the lottery of the entry-level job world.

>>10615711
It's because limes are getting so expensive.

>>10615711
Do normalfags actually believe this clickbait shit?

>>10621240
This. I went to buy my weekly bucket full of limes and the prices doubled from last week. Ridiculous.

>>10620132
>food desert
This is for NYC but the place I was in last summer; 1610 Nelson Ave.

Now you may say "hey look at all these grocery stores near you" but I've been to all of them. Their produce section is empty. One day I went and they had no tomatoes, onions, or bell peppers. And the rest of it looked like it was 3 weeks old. All the meat is processed. People end up eating fried chicken every day instead. Even if you go for canned black beans or something, it's actually more expensive than the same thing at Whole Foods.

>>10615711
That's what happens when you put all your money into financing a new car, big TVs and shit just so that you can pretend to be rich.

>>10615711
I hate my fucking country so much. America is truly a shithole.

>>10621245
yes, that's why they're normalfags. everything in the format of an article is gospel to them, because they probably have no idea how to formulate thoughts to fill an entire article, so they assume that whoever wrote them must be geniuses

>>10621402
yes it is, but not for the reasons that you think. It's a shithole because of losers like yourself.

>>10621416
A hermit NEET like me is the least of America's problems.

>>10620160
>tfw tried volunteering at the library tutoring kids for free, got rejected because I didn't have a cell phone
at least my work doesn't care

>>10621402
I agree it is a shithole, and nothing can save it from being a shithole

>>10619966

Where the fuck is that? I live around white people so I've never seen an armored Pizza Hut in real life.

>>10621468
I've seen plenty of glassed Chinese takeout and fried chicken/pizza/etc places in the Bronx.

>>10621491
this

12 pack of eggs is literally one dollar at almost anystore. they just cant afford to buy something that requires prep.

>>10616210
>https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Food_desert
>meaning that they live more than one mile from a supermarket in urban or suburban areas, and more than 10 miles from a supermarket in rural areas.
>1 mile
>desert
how fucking lazy can you be? do i need to chew it for you too?

>>10621233
Can confirm. Worked as a server at a mid to high end restaurant and averaged $40-45 an hour. Usually handed 8-12 table sections, went on trips every other month.

>>10621491
i wonder what the chiense feel about that. LIke they move from china to the US only to work in crap crime filled trash shit neighborhoods serving sugar fried food to 'barely humans'

I have 12.4k in the bank and I constantly feel like I'm in poverty

>>10615781
remove the avocado and it's like 9$

for some reason it seems like a lot of you retards think food costs the same everywhere.

i make $20 an hour, but I also live in an extremely expensive area mostly inhabited by retired millionaires. the food prices here are outrageous, some items being 1.5x+ more expensive than what they were in the same grocery stores in the town I used to live in.
despite being a high income area, there's still a need for the working class, low-wage population to fill labor jobs etc around the city. these are the people that are getting fucked, they have to pay insane rent to stay in an area like this ($1,000/month is the minimum around here for a 1 bedroom apartment, good luck living here on minimum wage (7.25)). it's not as simple as "if ur poor move to a poor place" either, considering many of these people were born and raised here and cannot afford to leave, as the low income and high prices leave little room for savings. if you live in someplace like bumfuck nowhere, Utah, your opinion on the matter is really very irrelevant considering everything is dirt cheap around your little sister-fucking communes because nobody wants to live there. the price of living in cities, ie the places where the majority of the country lives, is rising yet wages are not.

to me it sounds like a lot of you are either underage and have no idea how the real world works, or are very sheltered suburbanites who spend too much time on the internet and not enough time not being a dumbass. probably both.

>>10615711

I just moved from one flyover city to another. I'm good now, but at my last house I was ~30 minutes from the nearest grocery store.

>tfw I spend $120 a week just to feed my two dogs a raw food diet.

Poor people deserve nothing

>>10624608
>t. lonely faggot with two dogs

>>10616200
>healthy mode
Raw vegan can easily put you under half that dollar amount. Buy a kilo of chicken breasts with the savings bc >inb4 muh protein

>>10624608
>retard who spends way to much money on his dogs when he doesn't have to

Like come on man, you don't NEED to food your dogs that way. It's nice, but you don't have to. You could easily feed them for WAY less money and they'd have just as healthy a diet.

>>10616237
black people can't think for themselves? little bit racist, anon

>>10624608
>and devoted dog mommy
Swipe left

>>10616834
they literally get free food money from the government

>>10621384
why don't you just take the train to whole foods? one way far is less than $3

>>10621384
>morris heights
I've walked through that area and I can confirm it's a fucking disaster, food-wise

Also Whole Foods has been the cheapest place to buy groceries in the city for years, people just get butthurt over it because they have organic yogurt

>>10616248
Bulletproof glass is racist.

There are Californian politicians right now drafting and passing bills to ban bulletproof glass from convenience stores "because it's racist". I wish I was joking.

>>10620190
Supposedly there is an estimated 43,600,000 people on food stamps in the US .. Many who qualify are those with children, disabled, or the elderly. Well regarding the most recent statistics I have found actually shows 40.1% white 17,483,600 and of course 25.7% respectfully for African Americans or about 11,205,200. Either way numbers wise that means more Blacks are on wellfare and the narrative to assume mostly whites is spun in the media. By taking broad numbers this assumes more than 30% of the total demographic are on snap whereas whites are a little over 8.7% That’s a damning amount of people and really shows the level of blight in the community.

>>10625589
[citation needed]

>>10625602
http://reason.com/blog/2017/12/15/philly-votes-to-regulate-bulletproof-gla

My mistake, it was Philly. Point still stands.

>>10625602
https://www.snopes.com/news/2017/12/12/philadelphia-bulletproof-glass-racist/

Love her backpedaling and how it isn’t Cali

>>10625612
Didn't that bill only apply to restaurants with more than 30 seats, and not convenience stores? Did you even read the bill? Also, didn't that councilwoman never once use the word "racist" to describe bulletproof glass?

>>10625619

Democratic Councilwoman Cindy Bass, a primary sponsor of the bill, insisted these delis were the cause, not an effect, of trouble in her district.

"We want to make sure that there isn't this sort of indignity, in my opinion, to serving food through a Plexiglas only in certain neighborhoods," Bass said.

>Certain neighborhoods
>Indignity

Cmon Anon, doesn't take a mental genius to figure out the intent here.

>>10625625
You did not address my first question. Please do so.

>>10622856
You’re preaching to the wall here buddy. The average shitposting on /ck/ , hell 4chan, or in general understands nothing outside of their ignorant worldview . One question you can always count on in never getting a proper answer to is who will then do all of those lesser jobs once everyone has a “better job”?

>>10615781
L I M E S
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>>10625629
>who will plow the fields by hand once we have mechanized agriculture?! these hysterical "mechanists" obviously haven't thought things through, everyone is stupid except me

>>10625626
Literally second paragraph of the article holy fuck how much spoon-feeding do you need?

>The original bill would have banned bulletproof glass outright, but that was changed following backlash from store owners, who said the glass was needed for their protection.

I told you that politicians are drafting bills to ban bulletproof glass in shops. Remove your head from the sand.

>>10625656
The original bill would have banned it immediately. The amended bill pushed the ban back to 2021. It only ever dealt with "large establishments"(restaurants with more than 30 seats) and not convenience stores. Again, did you read the bill? Because I did.

>>10615904
Hillary lost, get over it

>being this butthurt over a bulletproof glass ban
It's like banning strip clubs or pawn shops or whatever. Keep out the businesses that attract scum, and the scum goes somewhere else. I don't see what's so hard about this. Communities have a right to decide how much tolerance they have for scum.

>>10625687
They're mad about something they aren't even educated on.

>>10625678
Okay, I'll bite, what was your interpretation of the bills intent?

>>10625756
The other anon said it best in >>10625687

>>10615781
>>10615806
>>10615843

am i the only one who still thinks this could easily last a week?

>>10625687
I'm all for it. We all know what's going to happen next: many if not all those shops will close or move and the next thing they'll complain about is the lack of food options in their ghetto.

>>10625772
for one person, sure
for a family of 4?
not so much

>>10625785
>>10625785
what idiot has kids if they're that poor

>>10625767
So, in short, certain types of businesses *cause* crime simply by nature of their location in "certain neighborhoods"?

>>10625781
Those shops were all liquor stores with fraudulent restaurant licenses.

>>10625792
Liquor stores that sell crack pipes attract alcoholics and crackheads, yes.

>>10625791
it takes a pretty dumb person to stay poor in the first place
you'd be surprised

>>10625791

Having lived in a high-SNAP city for years, I can tell you the answer is painstakingly obvious.

My neighbor was born when his mother was 17. He was the *third* child she had. And you guessed it, never met daddy dearest.

>>10625800
The vast majority of people who are born poor will die poor. The vast majority of people who are born rich will die rich. Those are indisputable statistical facts in America.

>>10625641
what does that have to do with that post? are you trying to say plowing fields is the only labor job on the planet? you some kind of retard, boy?

>>10626170
Kek

>>10625813
and it correlates nearly 100% to IQ. life in the US is incredibly easy if you are moderately intelligent and can hold a job. stupid people get a major shaft however, without a corporate career you are basically stuck making $7/hr and using food stamps.

>>10618846
I watched that tape, it was frankly disturbing to see what mental illness can do to a person.

>>10626469
>cringe boomer cope

>>10620347
America's future is to simply be a hemispheric economic zone without any cultural identity or national ethos, much like Canada right now. The only difference is that Canada has *never( had any culture or raison d'être, whereas the US had one (but is now losing it), so you see burgers lashing out in ways that leafs do not.

The future of the West is the modern American mall. Fatass whites and fatass clans of immigrants just lounging around, not really shopping but not totally loitering. Just existing - barely.

>>10620378
I used to have family in Arkansas, and when visiting stopped by a wal-mart near Mountain View. Everyone was well dressed and polite, the men wore fitted, ironed blue jeans, tucked in flannel shirts, and cowboy hats. It was a bit surprising, also very few obese people.

Compare that to a wal-mart where I live in Wisconsin. Lardasses everywhere with pudgy mexicans swarming about, many folks wearing those stretch pants and looney tunes shirts. Once, on a busy day, someone had apparently taken a dump right in the middle of the aisle. Nobody batted an eye and continued to shop. There was a twenty foot long streak where a shopping cart had been driven through the poo log. Also the blacks act exactly how you'd expect.

>>10626469
This is not true. Intelligence is far from the only factor in success, and hard work and luck are just as, if not more, important.

>>10618580
anon.....ur food budget for the week is 3 dollars?

>>10622856
FUCKING MOVE

>>10627782
How? If poor people had money to move they wouldn't be poor you fucking retard. Moving costs money.

>>10627793
that and not to mention the fact that if all the poor people in a city just upped and moved you'd be out of a workforce

>>10625791
They usually don't expect to be poor in the future.

>>10620206
>if I change the subject they definitely won't realize how retarded I am
Did you go to college by any chance?

>>10626469
Correlation is not causation. Of course someone who is rich would have access to better education, nutrition, and life experience. People who are well off like to think it's due to virtuous behavior, but if tomorrow all the poor people vanished from the earth, then a lot of rich people would find themselves in an identical situation too poor people. I'm talking white poor not african poor btw.

>>10615711
>http://archive.is/YIlLE

"Afford" is a spook word and has been for years, it doesn't mean "has less money than it takes to purchase," it means "doesn't have enough money to start a savings account if they purchase more than they need."

Fucking I still remember that study that said you couldn't afford a home on minimum wage where it turns out "can't afford" meant "you have to spend more than 30% of your income on rent" and they used average home prices instead of cheap home prices, which is where minimum wage earners would live. Yeah no shit you can't afford the average home unless you're making the average amount of money.

>>10627950
Why do you think they're researching robotics and AI?

>>10627772

Re-read the post he was replying to. The SNAP budget was $29 and had 7 limes.

>>10627957
They're not though, the people they hire are. People who research AI and robotics should be treated as poorly as strike breakers used to be btw.

>>10627972
I fully plan on joining Humanity First anti-AI organizations if and when the time comes. I'm willing to die to make sure the elites don't use their robot slaves to make us obsolete.

>>10627972
>>10627957
>muh auttomassshunnnnnn lol it's 2018!!

God I can't wait for the next three decades to happen so you morons can shut the fuck up and be proven wrong harder than Gene Roddenberry.

>>10627793
>How? If poor people had money to move they wouldn't be poor you fucking retard. Moving costs money.

Poverty-tier Mexican migrants manage to move across the Arizona desert on their fucking legs to get to work in the US, so I think what you *meant* to say is, they would rather continue their current level of comfort than seek better life elsewhere.

>>10627797
>that and not to mention the fact that if all the poor people in a city just upped and moved you'd be out of a workforce

If they all teleported out on one day, sure. If they all started moving over, let's say, a year, it would slowly become harder and harder to get help so you'd have to pay the remaining people more and more money if you want to be sure you're one of the few who still get help. It's a beautiful system that works wonders everywhere it's implemented.

>>10627988
beep boop, tinman

>>10627997
>this epic meme where we assume every opposing argument is just part of 'them' instead of refuting the argument

>>10627989
It's not about continuing their current level of comfort, it's about the risk associated with doing something like that. You're not guaranteed to succeed anywhere, and poor people are often poor because they're not smart enough to succeed in the first place. If it was as simple as "all i have to do to not live in poverty is move to Utah!?" I'm sure a lot more people would be growing potatoes and fucking their sisters right now.
Leaving behind everything to trek across a desert in search of a better life is a lot easier when you have absolutely nothing to leave behind in the first place. It's different when you have to take an actual risk, almost-nothing and a job is still significantly more than literally-nothing and no job. I don't think it's realistic to expect everyone living in poverty to do something like that.

>>10615781
The big issue in my mind with this image is that such a diet could only be sufficient for sedentary urbanite degenerates like Gwyneth Paltrow. Try to feed one physical laborer with that and you'll run out in a day or two. That said, someone working hard enough to require a decent diet probably doesn't need SNAP

>>10615781
>>10615781
I really dont get why this is so bad. Assuming she didn't get it at whole foods, its pretty varied and cheap food. Mostly rice and beans, supplemented with eggs for protein and lots of veggies. Lime and Cilantro for flavor, fair enough, cant expect people to eat gruel.

>>10615727
7% because the middle class has less money now than 7/22 the wealth the middle class had back then. Usa is 3rd world for the average population. They're just too far up their own ass to realize

Repeal the 2nd Amendment, implement Universal Health Care for all. TADA! Welcome to the 21st Century, America.

>>10627950
there's a big fucking difference from making $7/hr installing roof shingles versus $75k/yr at a generic corporate job. Access to that path mostly comes down to intelligence and a university degree or two.

Our gap between the bottom of the barrel worker and the people who essentially have no problems other than what they cause themselves financially has gotten far broader since the 1980s. People who get stuck in the cycle of working low pay jobs pretty much can never get out, and there's a strong disincentive to just do nothing and live off of welfare.

>>10628430
your parents paid for you to go to college

>>10628430
Are you against having a slave caste or something?

>>10628347
>lime
>avocado
>scallions
>parsley
>a single onion, not a 5 lb bag, which is around 90% cheaper by volume
>jalapeno

this is grocery shopping for retards assuming you are on a budget

>>10628470
What are poor people supposed to buy instead then KFC???

>>10628453
catholic college. paid around $8k/yr mostly on living expenses.

>>10628477
nah bro KFC doesn't take EBT. You gotta go to 7-11 and buy frozen shit. They cook it for you for free to beat the system.

EBT is a scam a fucking second. I heard that statistically over half of it gets spent in convenience stores on snack foods and gatoraide.

>>10627725
Kek shart in mart

>>10628477
i'm poor and i don't buy fucking limes and avocado, you fucking dunce

>>10627725
I used to live a few blocks from a ghetto wal mart. I think it's since been bulldozed and hopefully the ruins were doused in fuel oil and set on fire.

I have seen people steal EVERYTHING. It got so bad that they literally had four city cops and two Crown Vics parked blocking the two entrance doors. By everything, I mean literally everything that walmart sells. There's the standard shoplifting shit (makeup, deodorant, laundry soap, and so on) down to actual 40+" televisions. I witnessed a dude jack a display model TV, just walked it out the door.

The food was the worst, people would go in there and just eat shit, throw the wrappers on the ground, and act like nothing ever happened. It was terrible when walmart got onto the trend of having grocery shit and produce. Literal fucking Mario Kart style banana peels were in the aisles for you to dodge.

The other thing that was consistently horrible was that there was seemingly more product on the floor than on the shelves. IDK if it was the employees or the shoppers, but shit didn't stay on shelves for long. It was like somebody set off an explosive device or the place went thru an earthquake.

>>10615727
>>10615897
>>10616164
>>10616668
>>10616765
>>10616808
>>10628355
>>10619817
>>10620160
>>10620223
>>10621193
>>10621432
Normal is getting dressed in clothes that you buy for work, driving through traffic in a car that you are still paying for, in order to get to a job that you need so you can pay for the clothes, car and the house that you leave empty all day in order to afford to live in it.

-Satoshi Nakamura, founder of Litecoin

>>10628537
How fat are you?

>>10627725
arkansas/missouri/oklahoma small towns are based as fuck. there's fuck all to do but the people (who aren't drunk indians) work hard and really embody the rural american spirit. definitely flannel/jeans/F150 country, plus smoking hot country girls.

>>10628730
>plus smoking hot country girls.
Lol, I've been to rural Arkansas and I can confirm you have shit taste

>>10628736
to be fair arkansas is like the retarded stepchild of america. it's west virginia crossed with alabama with a little bit of new orleans.

>>10628590
>says the man selling his scam currency

>>10628590
>who is tyler durden lol fight club xDDDD fight the power vote Bernie Sanders

>>10628590
First of all, I want to point out that I actually "get" the joke about getting his name and claim to fame wrong. Unlike those other plebs.
Secondly, he's either paraphrasing or flat out ripping off Bukowski, who was also at best a pseudointellectual faggot.

I can't complain too much, though. I made like $800k on BTC and Eth. last year.
I just hate people who think they're so goddamn wise and above the rest because they talk shit about working a regular job. Just get one you actually enjoy. Hell, get a mediocre job with really good colleagues and you're set. If you dread going to work every day you need to quit and find something else. Go take some evening classes or something if you must.
I'm a nurse and I hate having more than two days off. Never thought I'd end up in this business and neither did anyone else. Try something new instead of being bitter about your cubicle for the next 40 years.

>>10616668
well if they're smart like Sean Hannity, much of their capital is tied up in real estate and landlording. pretty easy to hide conflict of interest with LLCs!
>>10628771
libertarians are like accelerationists but they believe that everything will be fixed rather than wiped clean catastrophically

>>10615711
>Late capitalism thread

>>10629198
Late usa*
Rest of the west is doing fine.

>>10629230
>Rest of the west is doing fine.
Look up america well, because It will be is your future.

>>10629321
"late stage capitalism" being the cause only makes sense if usa is somehow furthest ahead. But usa is not the first capitalist nation

i make 12.50 an hour (full time), my rent is $520/month and i spend most plenty on organic fruits and vegetables. I live rather comfortably but I don’t have a social life nor any expensive hobbies heh.

Americans, in general, are just bad with their finances. The people who claim to not being able to afford food or rent are the same ones who live well above their means and are two paychecks away from financial ruin. We all know someone who bitches about money, but somehow has the latest smartphone, eats out frequently, and lives in a neighborhood that they can't afford.

>>10629647
this

>>10629647
meh. people just don't save. whatever they earn gets spent, the whole justification for attempting to make more money is usually just increased consumption. goal driven spending is what makes people earn money in the first place.

it's true from the poorest people up to those with huge incomes. generally the only thing of value owned is the primary home, and all the free cashflow is spent on lifestyle, because why the fuck else do I bust my ass all day but to have a nice Audi I swap out every other year and steak on the dinner table.

It's not a uniquely American thing and it's pretty disingenuous to make that claim. It's just incredibly common here and the consequences when things get all fucked sideways are generally severe.

Me, and the people who I care about all can afford food and that's truly all that matters to me.

>>10630110
multi-generational wealth and investment is also not really common amongst most white people. jews and asians fucking rock that shit. the americans that are actually wealthy have a continuity of family investment spanning 100+ years, in most cases. nobody gets rich off of earning a salary, it's all business ownership, stock, or revenue generating property. some of the richest people I know are just guys who inherited property portfolios of junk slumlord apartments that have been in the family since time began.

>>10628038
>muh auttomassshunnnnnn lol it's 2018!!
Great fucking argument, dipshit.

>>10629553
>late stage capitalism
Fuck off, commie retard.

>>10630347
Capitalism is not going to sustain itself forever. Most likely we're going to switch to corporate states that more closely resemble serfdoms than anything.

>>10628537
Enjoy your scurvy

>>10630356
That's already well progressed in the US where megacorporations own the fed and state governments.

>>10630766
There's still an official separation between the two. I'm talking about people swearing allegiance to megacorporations the way people did with royalty.

>>10629647
can confirm desu senpai

i live in a trailer but own a 1600$ gaming pc 500$ pc monitor, 65 inch 4k tv in the livingroom 1500$ worth of audio equipment to go alongside tv.

atleast i bought a 7k car cash so i dont have that shit to deal with

i also have 0$ to my name because im technically 2k dollars in credit card debt

>once capitalism fails and communism gets put in place I will be bourgeois and not a loser like I am today

reminder liberals this sounds just as stupid when you hear racists talk about day of the rope

>>10630796
Where did anyone advocate for communism in this thread?

>>10630775
>still an official separation between the two
No, there's a "pretend" separation between the two because we still pretend our vote means jack shit, while the megacorporate lobbyists buy the candidates in unofficial auctions hidden from public view.

>>10615711
I shop at the commissary on base because I'm retired Navy (42 not a boomer) I don't spend a lot, it's tax free, and I like how big the aisles are.

>>10630953
Here's some specials from the commissary. Is this good?

>>10630766
Chances are you advocate the conditions that allow it happen

>>10630992
>>10631000
>>10630953

PX prices are generally amazing on everything, including liquor and cigarettes. I had a ROTC friend in college who was our booze hookup. It's shocking how inexpensive stuff is on military bases.

>>10630953
>that 42 year old boomer that shops at the commissary

>>10631031
At the exchange (clothes, furniture, guns, electronics, jewelry etc.) It's not that good a deal until it goes on clearance then it becomes an awesome deal.

I bought 4 calloway shirts and a 20 gauge for under $250 bucks one time.

Lots of people can't stand the military. As an organization it's an awesome place. Doesn't mean I've ran into my fair share of assholes and had to work for quite a few assholes.

>>10631048
I was just about to make a thread in pol along the lines of:

>That 22 year old boomer libertarian that still listens to shinedown.

>>10631066
Do it and link it

>>10630992
>59 cents a pound for chicken
it's probably factory farm hormone garbage but holy hell that's some cheap gainz. That's cheaper than Costco.

>>10631057
it's a decent career assuming you have few other options, and play your hand correctly. I used to assume the military was for Arkansas speds who flunked out of high school until I got an O-6 in the family via a cousin that lives nearby.

There are truly horrible military careers though, namely anything involving low rank navy/marines or anything involving Dayton, OH.

>>10631079
>>>/pol/172340781

>>10631079
Kek, now start posting mutt stuff lol

>>10631087
Nah I'm originally from the city. I did it because I was sick of working in the service industry. Willing to answer questions. The first 5 years really sucked, second 5 were meh, last 10 were good and flew by.

>>10631087
There's a lot of smart enlisted folks, and imo. If you are more of a tradesman or engineer enlisted is where it's at. You can rank up decently and unlike officer it's not political and you can have opinions and not get fucked.

>>10631087
Military as a whole is basically a mirror of America outside of the turbopoor and rich

>>10615711
Because dumbasses don't know how to balance a checkbook. I make 12 an hour, after rent and food and insurance and fun I have 500 left over every month. Fucking faggots giving us all a bad name because much weed and much welfare. Fuck off and stop buying a new phone every year then trying to leech off my taxes.

>>10615711
They can't afford food or rent because the government doesn't pay them enough benefits, but they can afford 2 packs of cigarettes per day.

>t. person who works in public benefits

>>10616390
Yea, I receive about 200 a month. Goes a long way as long as you're used to it. You just do standard things for most meals and then I do like one extravagant meal a month.

>>10631383
>adult
>has to get government assistance

>>10631406
>the government isn't supposed to assist you

>>10631445
The government is only supposed to assist the people who give them massive amounts of money, commie.

>>10631445
>relying on handouts
Yes, like it's SUPPOSED TO BE, amirite? If only degenerates had more ambition and fewer excuses. But I guess it's THE MAN that keeps you working minimum wage.

>>10631456
Literally what do you have to gain from ambition anon? I work a cozy job that I love and because of muh government assistance, I breeze through life and am able to save money.
I'm actually autistic and receive a ton in benefits because I will never succeed at anything at life other than being content with what I can do.

>>10631181
how many people do you split your place with?
if you have 500 left over you should put a few hundred a month into a tax advantaged account.

>>10631453
>>10631456

>>10631467
>proud of being a drain on society
>NEETs

>>10631493
>neet
I just said that I work a job.

>>10631456
I get 2200 bucks a month from my military pension. Am I a degenerate?

>>10615727
Why have food when you can have an iPhone?

>>10616390
i got 300 a month when i claimed my kid. without claiming the kid, i got like 70 a month. i tried to get housing assistance once, holy fuck.
i'm certain there's some sort of keyphrase you need to unlock the gibs that i see on display.
thankfully i'm passed that part of my development either way.

>>10631499
probably

>>10631518
Great answer here's a (you)

>>10631499
how many gooks and dune coons did you kill?

less than 15, yes, you did not earn it

>>10616390
>I don't know if there are both state and federal programs

iirc, SNAP's a federal program, but it's administrated by the states.

>Is this $120 a month thing BS?

It "is but it isn't". Most people I know who get that low of an amount are elderly SNAP beneficiaries who live alone and have other sources of income, like SSI, disability, or that sort of shit. Most people I know who get SNAP and don't have any income whatsoever get around $200 or so.

Real talk though: if you're buying staple foods and know how to cook, you can have a month of food for one person on around $50, and when it comes to it, food is excessively easy to get for free in america in general due to things like church charities and stuff, so there's really no reason anyone should ever be hungry unless they're buying expensive shit left and right.

>>10621428
Except you ARE the problem.
You contribute nothing to society while sitting in your parents basement complaining about minorities taking the jobs you would never work anyone on a chinese cartoon image board.

>>10631572
Definitely caught a lot of drugs and illegals trying to enter the country

>>10615711
If you cant afford food and shelter, doesn't that make you homeless? And therefore not important.

>>10631727
Some of them are veterans and former Citizens who went bankrupt. You are not human anymore.

>>10631727
Says the dropkick living with his parents.

>>10631734
>former Citizens
Is that what liberals are calling illegals these days?

In the United States, frugality is a concept considered to be deserving of ridicule. It's a stupid game that you win by not playing, or rather, a stupid game you win by not paying.

>>10622856
where do you live?

>>10628730
Gummo boomer cope

>>10628596
85kg