/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>tfw been too scared to look what I said to people over the weekend
>tfw finally did and it was a little cringey but not too bad
it shouldn't be such a weight off, but it is

>>10557480
I was forced to abandon alcohol after my very recent liver transplant.

Pic related. That's me just a few hours after the transplant. If you'll notice, I am still intubated with a breathing tube and conscious. That fucking sucked hard. You're awake, can't breathe and have to wait for the machine to fill your lungs.

Bottoms up!

>>10557505
Why don't you stop drinking anon?

>>10557505
How old?
Drinking history?
Asking for a friend.

>>10557505
How many gamma GT?

>>10557505
>That shade of yellow.

Oh fuck, dude. How close to death were you?

t. some poor bastard asking because there is an ugly-ass bulge over where my liver is.

>>10557505
I think at the point I received a liver transplant, I would definitely stop drinking. Not trying to make light of your situation, but how the fuck do you go back to the sauce after experiencing that? I say this as someone who drinks a fifth of vodka and a 12 pack of beer at bare minimum every day (except when violently sick, when I portion out my alcohol more meagerly to keep from feeling sicker than the disease makes me). I'm already wrestling with tapering and falling back off the wagon, but having a fucking indispensable organ replaced would definitely have me making a change.

>>10557614
>ugly-ass bulge over where my liver is
Me too. Mine has a dull pain.

>>10557621
>>10557614
Do you ever try to shift your weight to make it slightly less noticeable when you're sitting at home looking down at your titties and gut, and then have to stand up because your liver or whatever start shrieking in pain?

>>10557621
I don't have the bulge but I'm a bit fat so who knows. I do get the dull pain a fair bit though.

>>10557617
I think the 'bottoms up' was for us, as he said in his first sentence that 'he was forced to abandon alcohol.'

>>10557635
Yeah, I kind of just got that. To be fair, I'm a drunk and I also saw >>10557580 ask "why don't you stop drinking." But you're definitely right and I'm wrong.

>>10557627
>Do you ever try to shift your weight to make it slightly less noticeable
Absolutely. I have to lean back and to the side when I'm sitting in my office char, which has a bit of flex to it. Wonder what the fuck it is. I've had this pain for about 8 months now.

Went to a shop I'd never been in before last night for 3 strongbow to tie me over, only went with 3 quid, cans were a quid each.. Anyway the bloke gave me a free Japanese beer to try, asahi or something. Top bloke.

>>10557648
I feel so sorry for my local liquor store shop clerks. They see me every day, and each time it's always the same small-talk. Self check-out booze machines when?

>>10557645
>Wonder what the fuck it is.
Probably fatty liver. Could be something else. Excessive alcohol consumption does terrible things to your body and makes you more vulnerable to other maladies. In my case, I'm sure I have at least really bad fatty liver, but probably a bunch of other stuff. My body's kind of a wreck.

>>10557668
>maladies
m'lady's, kekaroo

>Probably fatty liver
I'm too scared to look up WebMD and self diagnose myself. Stopping drinking is the main goal for me.

>>10557663
Mine used to drop subtle and not-so-subtle comments regarding my problem. Now it's long been at the point where they just got friendly because what the fuck are they gonna do? I'm a regular, I spend a lot of money, and they have no power over me. They prolly also assume my life is total shit, so why bother me? They're used to dealing with severe alcoholics, they don't give a fuck.

>>10557682
*tips fedora*

You can't really self-diagnose, but fatty liver is ridiculously common in alcoholics, especially ones who are overweight. But bulges can be caused by hepatitis, pancreatitis, all kinds of other shit. I dunno, I am not a doctor. But if you're really serious about quitting drinking, don't be like me and actually go to a doctor. At the very least, they can tell you how bad the damage is, what your prospects are, and what kind of diet/lifestyle you need to not die. Do it before everything else, like your teeth, your GI tract, your heart, brain, lungs, etc. start to fall apart.

>>10557663
Damn I hear that.
>>10557684
Yeah I don't think it would sit right with me working for an industry killing so many and breaking up so many families.
I am however content to kill myself, so I sure as shit shouldn't judge.

>>10557684
Its similar with my house mates, I got drunk once and sliced my head open with a knife from the kitchen, so now whenever I have a drink the woman in the room next to me goes and takes all the knifes from the kitchen.

>>10557699
>whenever I have a drink the woman in the room next to me goes and takes all the knifes from the kitchen
That's harassment anon. Is she indian?

>open bar at a wedding

>>10557705
No she's English lol. It's for my own good though so I don't mind.

>>10557699
I locked myself out of my apartment once. I asked the lady downstairs to hold the ladder but she said nope. I proceeded to fall down of course and opened up a big gash on the back of my head. It was only like 4 or 5 stitches but damn there was a lot of blood.

>>10557737
I have varicose veins on my legs and I cut myself somehow when I was drunk out in public. There was blood everywhere, pools of it.

>>10557745
I just remembered climbing into a 3rd story window when drunk. Surprised neighbours didn't call the cops.
Another time when at a party I went for a drunk walk but couldn't find the party again so I climbed on someones carport roof to get a better view.
Again, no cops were called lol. Never did find that party again either :/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjXcVL-JGXM
>4:15
send help

>>10557825
?

>>10557505
damn nigga how much were you drinking per day and for how long?

>>10557505
how did you manage to convince docs to give you one? they'd laugh me out the door, knowing full well i'd be drunk the day i was discharged

>>10557505
What a faget :^)

Stay alive fucker, don't do a George Best.

>>10557617
Don't even try to taper with vodka.

>>10558339
Georgie, Georgie, they called him the Belfast boy

today, i am skipping work at my navy unit and stealing gin from my roommate

life is bad and only gets worse and i am not going to even try anymore

>>10558522
>AT4 vs kitty.jpg
>absolutely not an AT4
>navy

Fucking dumb squid can't even identify OPFOR weaponry.

im getting an urge to drink lads

>>10558744
Just do it breh

How do you fucks manage to drink so much in a day? In order to pay rent and bills and shit I work a eight hours a day which leaves me eight hours (which I usually stretch out to ten) to get hammered, leaving me six hours of sleep before I show up to work hungover again.

Weekends are a completely different story but how the fuck do you guys manage it?

>>10558783
I make $85/hr take home pre tax

>>10558576
sorry, ive never operated any launchers. they dont even give us M203s at simulator shoots

>>10558744
Remember the misery.

Day 3 here I'm terrified and can't sleep for shit.

>>10559115
Day 2 here after a 4 day bender after a 6 day stint I managed before that.
Other than the watery shits and cold sweats I'm doing ok.
Going to try for 6 months which would be the longest in 20 years by a good 5 months.
My body needs this. Good luck anons.

tfw alcohol makes me gay

That Celine Dion song that just dropped may be lame to most of you, but I'm here to tell you, it reminded me of when I crawled out of the hole I was in with a lot of you. Give it up, anons. Do whatever you have to do to give it up. You don't have to be a normie or a faggot, but you deserve better than this shit. Let beauty come out of ashes.

>>10559438
>That Celine Dion song that just dropped
She's not retired yet? Christ

>>10559405
That means you are gay dude. You're already gay.

>>10559516
this, i used to feel the same thing and then i realized that really all i want is like 80 dicks in my butt and a male life partner who is actually both competent and relateable

>>10559525
Fag

>>10559611
Mutt

>>10559525
What's up with gays and being so rampantly degenerate in 9/10 cases? I feel like the modern youth gay is just like a rampaging maelstrom of torrid homosexual acts even wanting to corrupt all straights that it comes in contact with. Like seriously what is up with you guys just wanting to fuck everything or constantly wanting to be fucked as if homosex is like the all consuming aspect of your lives.

>>10559689
I don't know man. Personally I've never met a gay guy in my life who wasn't an insufferable cunt. I don't know why they feel like they have to 'act' a certain way

>>10559689
my theory is that having to experiment with one's self (literally and figuratively) in a context that's already not completely acceptable makes it easier to do "degenerate" shit.

basically, in for a penny, in for a pound

>>10559707
>I don't know why they feel like they have to 'act' a certain way
idk man i dont have a gay lisp or anything

i think you're suffering from confirmation bias, you've probably met or at least seen lots of gay people who don't look gay, but you don't associate them with gayness since they're mundane. but then you see some mesh-shirt wearing fucker on inline skates one time, and it's so striking that it confirms a stereotype for you even though it was literally one guy one time

>>10559707
You're exactly right. For some reason, every gay male feels he has to be noticed.

>>10559741
I don't think it has anything to do with confirmation bias. Rather, many gay people struggle to "fit in". At some point they come out as gay, and now they suddenly have a group to fit in with, so some of them go over the top with that groups mannerisms and style. It's no different than members of various other social cliques that take things to an extreme.
Of course not all gays are like that, but those that are are very visible.

>>10559776
well it seems unfair to single out gays for that when punks, redditors, etc. are guilty of the same sort of overbearing tryhard-ness

>>10559759
do americans really

>>10559788
>are guilty of the same sort of overbearing tryhard-ness

Agreed. But follow the thread. We're talking about a man discovering his inner self listening to Celine Dion. That shouts "Fag" a lot louder than it implies punks, skaters, goths, or other cliques.

can we get over this homosex bullshit and get back to the discussion of alcoholism and crippling depression please?

I'll give a pass to anyone dying of AIDS

>get crazily drunk
>hope I didn't say anything too insane online
>all I did was shitpost in the Battletech thread

>>10559946
Battletech is still a thing? I was playing that 25 years ago.

>>10559970
Still going. I'm playing a campaign online using MekHQ now. While I was drunk I may have made a retarded build. Time will tell. Fuck the Capellans.

>>10559167
You got this brother. Your body and soul will thank you.

>>10559946
Addiction retards emotionally growth.

Three days in a row now after two weeks sober. Hope I'll be able to turn this around. My life was going pretty well untill this point. Fuuuuuck

>>10560002
I was just there - switching between medications caused my cravings to spike. Kept a constant buzz - usually teetering into a good warm drunk - for a whole week after a month off. Today's my third day dry and I'm starting to feel clearer again. Rest your mind and body if you can but don't let yourself get bored. You can turn around just be mindful of your needs.

13 days sober and really feeling the pressure

I quit drinking because I can't manage being an alcoholic and holding a job at the same time. I'm so tempted to pick up a cheap handle and get blackout drunk. Someone convince me not to

>>10560178
remember that every time will be at least this hard, so if you give in you set yourself up for a thousand more failures

Next time I have to drink something other then Pabst, I honestly might just cry.

>>10560178
You never hear of an alcky happy they started drinking again, but you always hear of them so much happier without the booze.
Please anon. Please do it for yourself and your future. 13 days is fantastic but imagine 13 months! 13 years!!!
Good luck.

>be sober for weeks
>convince myself i can handle one night
>weeks later, still wrecked, life falling apart

>get drunk
>check 4chan the next day
>banned for shitposting

>>10560268
Yup this is me. every fucking time.
>>10560281
Kek which board?

>>10560268
This is literally me. Trying to just drink on fridays ended up BAD

how many carpets did you ruin this week al/ck/?

>>10560335
i threw them out years ago. i get cheap rugs which can be easily replaced

Everytime I quit I'm doing ok, feeling a million times better, too.
Then some minor shit happens, and I use this as an excuse to pick up the bottle again.
The minor shit shouldn't be my trigger. (Excuse) has anyone else had this and managed to overcome it.

Minor shit happened this morning and now after a day and a half sober feeling like utter shit but starting to feel a bit better, I'm now looking at the clock so I know when I can leave to go get booze.

>>10560178
Don't do it anon, just think if you do then next time you quit you'll have to start all over. Shakes, sweats, and even more anxiety. It's not worth it

>>10560403
same happens to me, no idea how to conquer it. my main concern is how the fuck i'm gonna react when something really bad happens. brutal relapse seems inevitable.

>>10560403
You need better coping skills. Finding a hobby is not a meme. It will occupy your mind and make you feel productive. Music can help, exercise. Anything positive. And remember how bad hangovers and withdrawals are. Romoce yourself from overly stressful situations when necessary

>>10560514
Remove*

>>10557480
how can i be around liquor without downing it all until im absolutely shit faced and fall asleep at 2pm?

>>10559707
Same guy who you were replying to.
I lived below two brothers for a year one time, and I actually thought the gay one was the cooler guy and we got along together better, but seriously he literally suggested turning my friends to their faces and stuff.

so fucking sick of this country. chief cunt in charge of making sure everyone believes weed has no therapeutic value, has a husband who grows weed for medicinal purposes.
https://www.clear-uk.org/paul-kenward-husband-victoria-atkins-mp-uk-drugs-minister-grows-cannabis-living/

>>10560514
Great advice. I wish I had the mental faculties to even take up a hobby. Alcohol has wrecked my brain so much. I know I've dropped 5-10 iq maybe more.
I can't even enjoy vidya anymore.

>>10557480
>wake up Friday morning
>have to work at 8, so at 6 get my vodka on
>go to work, completely blackout
>wake up in my bed at 2pm confused
>several texts from co-workers asking WTF

And then today I go grocery shopping, to go pick up some cheese I forgot to get on my first trip in, who is right behind me, if I could remember, almost undoubtedly the guy who fired me.

>In a "concerned" voice, hey anon
>In a "fucking christ, do we have to?" voice, sup dude
>You doing ok?
>Excellent man, you?

Annnnd naturally the cashier first runs out of printer paper, so has to go grab some more and then RIGHT after that, manager comes by to change out the tils.

Booze is so chill, I think I'll have a drink!

>>10560815
What happened, if you don't mind me asking?

>>10560835
I got blackout drunk before work and I'm assuming I got away with it for a couple of hours and they got me a ride home. I honestly didn't drink all that much more than I usually do.

I'm taking the high road and ignoring all texts and phone calls, so I don't have to answer questions.

>>10560847
why the hell did you get blackout rekt before work?

>>10560877
Because I'm a perpetual fuck up, get off my back mom.

>>10560847
Damn man that's pretty gnarly. Glad they at least got you home safely.

>>10560884
you must have known it was too much for that time of day though, i mean is it the first time you've blacked out?

>realizing there's 810 cals in my 375ml of vodka

That was a good way to justify not drinking tonight. I won't lie. Had the craving bad. But I'm sure I'll be a weak willed faggot and turn back on it soon enough. Least I'm limiting myself to once or twice a week rather than six fucking times a week.

>>10560896
Yeah. I know I would have done the same thing and paid out of my own pocket, but they really liked me. I was up for a hefty promotion. Oh well.

>>10560900
As I said, it wasn't more than my usual amount, but I guess my body had other ideas.

>>10560329
Global ban but I usually shitpost on /tv/

>>10560918
I ended up quitting my desk job because I was too functional. Drunk around the clock at my desk without anyone noticing. As shitty as your circumstances were at least your co-workers took care of you.
Should you choose to try and quit, at least you won't be encumbered by work. Hopefully you have some savings that can get you by for a bit.

Tfw drunk right now

>>10560808
I'm definitely a little fuzzier too but it gets better the longer you're off the sauce. Your neurons rewire themselves around the damaged ones.

>>10560566
>weed faggots having a hard time
I couldn't fucking give a shit.

>>10561131
wow how intimidating, go tell all the teens on /b/ about how manly you are

Can someone tell me why premixed margaritas are so much cheaper than making one yourself?

>>10561027
have a medal for obvious bitch

>>10561214
They put an appropriate amount of tequila/triple Sec in the pre made ones and you put excessive amounts

>>10561205
It's not anything about masculinity or intimidation, it's just the honest desire to proclaim my intense dislike of weed.

>>10561258
why would anyone here care about your opinion of weed?

>tfw opiate addict

Can I hang out here? I like to drink too

>>10561265
It doesn't matter. It just demonstrates that I was driven to decry it once it was mentioned.

>>10561131
>I'm glad you're suffering because all the 14yo's I know who smoke weed are annoying
Fuck you too, brat.

>>10561274
How unfriendly and unnecessary of you. You know nothing about me but you hate me because I used weed to stop drinking. Eat shit.

>>10561276
>>10561279
I don't really have as much of a problem with weed people as much as weed itself. Some weed people are ok and others I just feel sorry for.

>>10561014
Thanks dude. It'll be alright or it won't, only thing you can do is your best.

>>10561305
it's a denerate hobby favored by defeated depressed losers, just like drinking. the only upside of weed is it doesn't destroy your internal organs

>>10561272
how do you not die from mixing opiates and alcohol?
tolerance?

bought one of these from costco, thoughts?

>>10561395
I learned my lesson after smashing some dudes car up after a Halloween party (my car was fine lel). Never got caught but after I hit my friends said I just went "what happened?". If I do mix nowadays it's pretty light

>>10561407
I haven't tried it. I do like the aroma of botanicals though.

>>10561407
I used to love Gin and Tonics.
Though then I got very used to the idea of mixing gin and beer together. Did that for a couple of months before I realized buying vodka was cheaper.

>>10561407
costco liquor is GOAT
shame their beer selection is so limited in my experience

>>10561407
I'd go to Costco more if I wasn't hammered all the time.

>>10561354
Organs? Weird. I never heard that before and I don't even smoke.

>>10561443
*doesnt destroy
Ignore me I need to learn to read.

How unhealthy is it to get drunk like twice a week? Ive been doing it for like 3 years and ive noticed i sweat alot more, have to use deoderant more often and my hair is always dry and itchy as fuck. I havent been drinking the last while because its getting to me, i dont wanna be smelly or bald

>>10561526
bait dont reply

Have any of you guys "cut back"? Obviously I'm fine with my drinking, but unlike some of you morose motherfuckers, I just want to get the drink count lower instead of being drunk 24/7.

my liver hurts
hungover but drunk again
about ready to warm a slice of pizza

I cant even

>>10561562
I always manage to stop drinking for three days, feel great, then start drinking again for a long time.

>>10561579
not that guy but this also happens to me. I had to quit 100%, I just kept relapsing every 3 days.

>>10561579
I kinda meant holding it to a 6 pack or something, but depending on how hard you go you may be better off with that method.

>>10558889

Might I ask how?

Getting some horrible surreal imagery and noises when I try to sleep, mega sweats too. I really did it this time

anyone else have any al/ck/ siblings?


Me and my brother have been alcoholics for almost 10 years, Pretty comfy to have a best friend/relative to drink with and share feels.

IMO we are closer because we drink together compared to our other siblings that we don't really hangout with or see very often.

>>10561796
Yeah, we share all substances and have a slush fund to throw into it. Can even trust to share equally instead of someone up and doing all the white, for instance.

Great relationship, but probably even more of an arrested development than just independent alcoholism.

anyone else start sucking on a bottle as soon as they wake up?

it's 3am and i can't sleep so i'm downing wine

>>10561833
>wine

>>10561842
well done you learned how to quote

>>10561833
>just started sucking

Where my malt liquor bros at?

I genuinely like most malt liquors as long as it's cold and not flat

>>10561833
Iceland?

>>10561680
skillz pay billz yo

I'm not posting my fucking resume on 4chan

>>10561886
Lul.

>>10561579
>>10561602
Yep. 3rd day is when you sober up for real and the reality hits you the hardest. I went 5 days sober last time, thought I'm gonna end up at a mental hospital if I don't get some booze. Also on 3rd day today again, waiting till its 10 am to get some beer or a bottle of vodka before sleep

>>10560178

You got this man. I'm around two weeks in too. It sucks for the first 2ish months (for me at least) then starts to get better. I honestly cant stand being a degenerate alchie anymore. Not only do I get physical hangovers now, but I'm paralyzed with anxiety the next 3 days if I drink more than 4 beers.

fuck this gay life style.

I'm thinking of doing a Leaving Las Vegas style trip. I'm depressed all the time unless I'm hammered, I want to put an end to this miserable existence.

Turning 21 this Thursday. What is the first bottle I'm buying?

>>10561941
Well, do you at least realize that it's because of the booze?

Hell, if I was killing myself on a drug fueled frenzy (and if I dindn't have my current connections) I would go to a weed state or canada for its infinite supply of codeine.

>>10561970
Nah I've quit for months at a time and it's always the same. I've been depressed for the last decade. Tried therapy, meds, taken all advice under the sun and I still feel like shit. So I've decided to just drink and enjoy myself a little bit.

But codeine? Why not just get morphine?

El que por amor o desamor cae ahogado en alcohol...

>>10562003
Google translate doesn't really help with this...

>>10562031
something something I love/hate alcohol uma delicia

>>10561983
Because of legality. Have you tried socializtion and working out?

The best days I ever have is maybe having 8 beers total, but going on a ruck with friends, cooking food, and playing some cards before they go home. You may also be neglecting your soul, for lack of a better word. Don't let me get religious on you, but the human condition requires spiritual nourishment.

>>10562065
I appreciate the advice but like I said it's been over 10 years and of course dieting, exercising and socialising were one of the first things I tried.

I don't wanna encourage illegal behaviour but tor exists... just saying.

>>10561579
>>10561602
I can quit for between 2-10 days once I get sick enough to actually have to stop.
My body has become so bad it's gotten to the stage my body shuts down within a week.
>be me this morning
>36 hours since last drink
>go buy some10am -enough to last me 2 days.
>be 2 am
>feel full but not drunk so had to go force myself to vomit just so I could drink more
Now I've vomited and drank more I can honestly say I feel much better.

>>10562158
Hope you die from liver failure asap, subhuman.

>>10562158
>I can quit for between 2-10 days once I get sick enough to actually have to stop.
I used to be like that. You can't quit if you can't commit to it. My problem was I actually didn't want to stop.

>>10562173
don't be a chode

>>10562173
Don't you feel a bit embarrassed to sound like such an angry kid?

>>10562142
Well, to start, what to you even define as depression? A blah-ze(sp) attitude on life, or putting a fucking revolver to your temple?

Clinical definitions and actual definitions are tricky things. All of us in this thread, even if we just drink 3-4 beers 3 times a week makes us alchies if we're going by clinical definitions. Are you actually depressed, or just bored?

>>10561796
My father, older brother older step-brother and step-father were/are all massive alcoholics.
Any my mother, father, step-father, older brother or older step-brother never once told me not to drink, or be super careful.

Needless to say I'm a massive alcoholic.

>>10562188
Nah lmfao, i felt embarassed when i watched your mother getting gangraped by a bunch of negroids, you fucking subhuman piece of shit lmfao.

>>10562195
Shoo, child.

>>10562202
>shoo
Lmfao Yeah I'm leaving right now to masturbate. Gonna watch this vid i made myself and uploaded to pornhub of your mother getting brutally throatraped by 5 nigger cocks. Bye

>>10562185
Everytime I endure such horrible withdrawal I tell myself 'never again' but you are right. I guess even that is just the pain, not the desire to truly quit.
This morning before I went and bought more, I actually had a few moments where I thought 'gee this isn't so bad, I can do this, why go buy alcohol' but then I just thought to myself 'who am I kidding'
I am at a 'plateau' as they call it in bodybuilding.

>>10562192
Let's just say if it wasn't for my mother, who I don't want to put through grief, I'd be dead already.

>>10562208
giv me link

>>10562208
edgier than a rick and morty DVD with razor blades glued to it

>>10562214
That doesn't even tell us anything, chud. I can say that exact thing on my most bottom-of-the-bottle fatalistic days, yet have misappropriated optimism on other days. You already said that you were capable of sobriety, so it must not all be the GABA sedative hypnotic corner that we're backing ourselves into, but you can't fix the intangible if you can't analyze/actualize.

>>10562240
It's my stock response, but okay, let me tell you... I've read psychology books on depression, even on the neuroscience of happiness and pleasure. I've read philosophy books on similar topics, and I've even read sociological interpretation of depression and how it fits into work, society, relationships. I've deliberated on these topics for years. In other words, I understand the topic very well. If I were a therapist I'd be able to help 99% of my clients because I have very good advice. It's a problem I've spent a third of my life trying to solve. Unfortunately, I can't. For some reason people find this hard to believe and always hit me with platitudes like "it's probably because you're not lifting weights, bro". Seriously I'm honoured to even receive advice but inside I'm irritated because all I can think is "do you really think I'm that stupid that I don't already know that?"

>>10557480
Dudes, why is anime with a good buzz so comfy? Any recommendations? I like welcome to nhk.

>>10562272
only anime i've watched is dragon ball z and cowboy bebop. i'd go cb

>>10562283
You should get cozy with your girl some rainy day and just go nuts with everything gibli.
Thank me later.

>>10562267
Well, the cardio/weights along with good sleep and diet does get rid of the large majority of, "hurr I'm not happy so I must be depressed," shit.

You're probably akin to me, and you will never be satisfied because we both know the higher plane of altered consciousness. Haven't found the cure yet myself, other than direct substance use, but I would say that the above advice at least gets you feeling decent, and along with work and cooking fills the daytime. Not a solution at all, but that's what I've found helps a bit.

You have any nuggets to impart on me?

>>10562283
Hmm okay I will check out cb.
I mostly like animes about pedestrian things, lazy people, drunks, nhk is the only one I know for now.

>>10562283
Keep it to that, anime is gateway drug to shittier anime. Some one shots are alright though, along the same lines as cartoon one shots are. Over the Garden Wall is a great one I watch every Fall.

>>10562300
Where to begin... You're right that first port of call should always be fixing diet and general health. That's good generic advice. After that, it all depends on your specific circumstances, which is why I'd be weary of anyone who dishes out one-size-fits-all suggestions. But usually, the second route should therapy. Talk therapy is statistically effective. Empirically speaking, it doesn't even matter what kind of therapy you do, the important thing is talking to someone. Medication should only be used as a last resort, but judging by systematic reviews, antidepressants are slightly better than placebo and have negative side-effects, so I don't usually recommend them.

More specifically, yes, keeping busy, spending time socialising, having good relationships with family and friends - all that stuff helps. Many articles have concluded that these are the biggest factors. Not money, not sex, and not any of the stuff people THINK makes them happy. Worst thing you can do is shut yourself out and sit in a room alone doing nothing. Social isolation kills.

A book I really like on this subject is Man's Search for Meaning, if you're going through loss or grief, it should help. It might not help if you're just clinically depressed for existential reasons.

This was probably a useless post, if I knew you better I might be able to be more useful.

>>10562326
You can get shittier than DBZ?

Alcohol is definitely the gateway to /a/ though. There are watchable thoughs. I haven't seen much in the last 8 years of so; but I enjoyed Shiki, Sword Art Online, and Assassination Classroom. Recommendations by my siblings.

>>10562360
I also enjoyed sword art and saw ready player one with my lil bro not long ago, he actually knew of sword art when we discussed it after. I was proud of him.

I get the feeling all of us who have posted about anime so far are plebs in/a/s sight but that's okay.

I drank too much and too fast so I had to have a "nap" of an hour or two. I don't know how long.

Whatever. I've had a bagel. I'm awake proper now.
Still tired. But willing to drink more.

>>10562354
Such is the nature of anonymous discussion. You know, a lot of drunks who went straight seem to find themselves alone and say, "The only friends I had were drinking buddies!" But I find that doesn't hold up in my situation where I play it closer to the vest, and all of my friends are from grade school that all seem to have substance issues in one form or another. Not quite sure where my stream of consciousness is rambling, but it's nice to hear a semi kindred spirit thinking along the same lines. Wishlisted the book, but in the wax and wane of the 'lism, I don't think the cozying up to a book after a soberish day is in my near-future.

When I go sober, it seems that there is a spiritual aspect to life that has been malnourished, but I don't want to sound like a nut or holistic faggot, so you can take that journey on your own.

>>10562360
Anime sucks. I'm late into this conversation, but I have to reaffirm that anime sucks.

Except SnK. Westaboo shit is OK.

>>10562360
>You can get shittier than DBZ?
Is that even a legitimate question? C'mon man.

>>10562391
What kind of bagel? I just ate a croissant breakfast Sammy before taking a shot of rum and drinking some wine.
Fucking love these breakfast sams.

>>10562392
Other anon interjecting but you ate right about the spiritual growth. I don't think we are like normies, we have an essence that blossoms whether we are drinking or sober. Look at David icke and his beer belly (there's even interviews of him at pubs). Even Christ was known to enjoy wine at every meal. The thing they were known for however was their time off alc. Icke in peru, Christ with his 40 days in the desert when the devil himself offered him worldly riches. We crave something bigger than normies can fathom which is why we drink and go dry. Always alternating, like an engine.

>>10562397
Is snk the holy grail? I should have known. Something about it is perfect. That other anon may be correct about all other series being shit in comparison to the ones that hook us.

>>10562412
An "everything" bagel. Poppy, salt, pepper, those black things that taste good, I don't know what they are.
Tastes great.
Cut in half, toaster, cream cheese.
Fantatstic

I'm drinking rum too. No wine.
Still a bit too fucked up.
But at least I'm awake now

>>10562437
Lmfao. I hope you soon die from liver failure you subhuman piece of shit.

>>10562441
You and me both, mate
You and me both

>>10562437
>tfw i knew it was an everything bagel
Have I reached peak patrician?

>>10562445
Wish he made that post towards me. I really do.
I am so jealous right now.

>>10562437
Feels like I'm so retarded by society I feel it needs salmon, but then again it usually comes with capers too, and I fucking hate that shit.

>>10562441
>>10562445
Me and everything bagel bro will draw our swords upon you, and we will win.

>>10562462
If only you were Jewish.
Being a master of the entire world entitles you to lox when you have your bagels

>>10562458
You reached entry level patrician, AKA elevated Goy.
Oy gevalt we know them bagels

>>10562489
>tfw I'm not a base goy
Doing my mom and dad proud

>peppermint schnapps with mint Irish cream
No idea what I'm doing but here goes

>>10562528
Vomit in your near future
Sweet drinks are good for fucking office parties
But at home, you're gonna have two or three.
And that ends up praying to the porcelain throne

>tfw it gets quiet this time
I know it's not your fault eurofags but I blame YOU

>>10562554
Uh oh
*swig*

>>10562555
I don't blame Euros, I blame West Coasters. Shit, they number nearly as much as Euros
Can't they keep up?
I guess Chinks don't drink as much as we do...

>>10562555
we managed to go through two whole threads in one day a few days ago.

>>10562570
Weed is legalized on the west coast, they're not even playing the same game anymore.

>>10562572
Hmmm.... well, you're not up 24/7 therefore you are why I'm lonely
Muslims can't conquer you soon enough ;_;

Looking for a decent recipe (spices, fruit) for mulled wine. Making a fair bit of it and I'm unsure what the exact mix of base wine will be. Any suggestions?

>>10562598
I'm not EU. If you want real time chat join the IRC for al/ck/, someone here might have a link.

>>213993246
>tfw gave godot an honest try until noticing the framerate jitter in 3d
What is godots status here now? I'm out of touch.

>>10562605
>exposing my ip
Nah.

>>10562605
>>10562598
I'm in EU, ask me anything.

>>10557480
I wanted to take a break, but I can't really eat, had a pear and some beans, forcing myself to finish them.

Slight anxiety and stomach feel on fire.

So going to buy some beers.

>>10562680
Now that Britains gone. Are you German or French?

>>10562700
I'm Lithuanian

Has anyone gone 100 days sober and still experienced symptoms of withdraw? I'm at 126 days and kept having sweats but I didn't get the urge to drink, I just wanted to fall asleep. Maybe the thought of being awake and not being able to sleep made me sweat like that...

>>10562702
>126
Nice! I'd say the sweats are no longer alcohol related.

>>10562698
Just take it easy as possible anon. Please. Please don't drink much.

>>10562710
Maybe anxiety related then fuggg

>>10562701
With all due respect, your national dumplings are a bitch to make, and not being a landlocked country you have ruined a good joke.

>>10557480
Whats the line between major depression and alcoholism?

>>10562749
You don't feel anything
vs
I have to stop feeling anything

Finally it's 10 am and I can destroy myself. Bought 0.7l of sir edwards and 2 beers

>tfw wake up out of nowhere and resume shitposting
Hahaha take that satan

>>10562749
>>10562753
Lol ya. You guys should try abusing phenibut for a few weeks then quit cold turkey, you'll know what real depression is like

>>10562761
how much of that do i have to take before definitely feeling osmething? done 750mg or so dose a couple times but hasn't seemed to do anything

You guys are fucking poetic

>>10562717
Yeah, I'll try pace myself and buy the small cans.
Thanks.

8am in the UK and glugging Irish whiskey. I love you all

>>10562749
What anime is this? Finally something to compete with my based nhk?

>>10562765
2g+ to feel anything probably, my first dose was 2g, i continued taking 3-4g/day for the next few weeks.

>>10562761
Big lenny has scared me off that shit

>>10562702
I'm over 12 weeks off booze and no sign of sleep being sorted yet, still have mad mood swings, paranoia and anxiety. keep thinking that life isn't worth living. not sure it'll ever end, maybe this is just what life is like.

>>10562776
WHat?

Anyone else make the really smart choice of reading extremely depressing and sad shit while drunk? End up crying yourself to sleep, wake up hours later to only remember what you where reading the night before from you history, and then continue reading it while drinking the next night?
At least I finished the story, right lads?

>>10562766
In what capacity.

>>10562766
Alcohol makes people loquacious. Geniuses who become alcoholic are among the worlds greatest authors.

>>10562781
>oyasumi punpun
pretty sure if i try to finish that i'll start drinking again, and i haven't even made it that far

Why are these threads always sad? About 5 or 6 years or whatever the fuck ago /ck/ always had alcohol threads but they were just chill, fun, threads where people would talk about what they're drinking and what their favourite alcohol was and shit. Now it's just a bunch of depressed fags. Why can't these threads just be fun?

>>10562780
>doesn't know who big lenny is
Turn back, sweet child.

>>10562790
5-6 years ago drinking was still a good time for me

>>10562781
Not yet, I'm still fixated on muh dreamscape. You have intrigued me though.

>>10562790
because after 5 years of drinking you get depressed

>>10562790
Always check new posts first. We seem to be flying high right now

>>10562790
>2005 is not 5 years ago anymore

>>10562790
Its the same people posting, but five years later mate. Havnt you heard? The worlds fucking ending.

>>10562779
How on earth have you made it 12 weeks in such a condition?
I feel better, much better after 10 days.
Do you have underlying mental issues? I only ask bc making it so long but being in such a bad place suggests even worse underlying issues.
I want you to get well anon.
Do you have coin to seek professional help?

>>10562798
>>10562804
>>10562813
>>10562820
>>10562821
It just sucks cuz like, I'm drinking right now and just having a good time while drunk and I want to talk to other people who are having a good time while drunk but everyone's just depressed

>>10562801
yeah it was a fucking terrible time and i regret it, id rec it to anyone...

>>10562831
These threads are literally my AA.

>>10562790
People realise now we can't continue living this life so we are now also trying to help each other. Sorry if that upsets you anon but we find this thread helpful both via talking about alcohol and how to function without it.
If the second topic doesn't appeal to you, please just feel free to ignore those posts but many alcoholics need help. Alcohol is poison if you didn't know.

>>10562838
Well, I hope you get better :/ it sucks that some of you can't just drink every once in a while and have a good time without it ruining your life

>>10562831
I am having a good time

>>10562831
Brah don't worry. I'm on top with you right now. What you up to beyond this tab? I'm watching animu, surfing other generals and looking forward to work tomorrow.

why don't we get a discord going so we can voice talk

Been tapering down for a week and tomorrow is my first day back at work after vacation. I know the cravings are going to kick in and I could be back to downing stupid amounts of alcohol each night. My plan, after work, is to eat a gigantic portions of food so I don't feel like drinking. Not feeling good /blog

>>10562842
Nah it doesn't upset me or anything, I'm glad you're getting help. Remember that I'm also drunk and I guess getting emotional but in the end it's good that you're trying to better yourself and everything. Perhaps I should just start *fun* alcohol threads so that it can be separated from these threads or something. Anyway, hope you turn your life around and get better soon. All the best luck to you

>>10562849
Not him but I just started drinking 30 mins ago after staying up all night.10:30 am here and i'm listening to leaving las vegas soundtracks and music videos and looking forward to gamble my last 5euros at duel arena on runescape

MY HEART IS CRYING! CRYING! LONELY TEARDROPS!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSabR0ksmgc

>>10562849
Not much, just browsing threads and watching "Nathan For You" enrolls drinking beer. What're you up to?

>>10562853
You seem cool as fuck. Probably you are right and we need two threads, but I'm not in the position to make that call.
I wish you all the best too.

>>10562855
That was a good movie. I connected more with 'Flight' tho because it shows the sneaky side of alcoholism. Plus I can't take Cage seriously because of memes.

>>10562850
Someone mentioned earlier we have an IRC channel, and they use Mumble every so often.

>>10562850
In too tistic for live chat unfortunately

Had a really frustrating set of failed experiments so as soon as my microscope session ended this week I started drinking. Drank 4 nights in a row which means withdrawals are coming...I knew they would obviously.

Annoying. I'll be back to normal by Wednesday I know, but I hate withdrawals.

Anyone else similar boat?

>>10562884
Nah I just started drinking today 30 mins ago

>>10562852
Don't worry tapering works and you seem ready for relapses. Can't ask for much more as an / alc / just keep aiming for that high score. Spoiler: we are the master race.

>>10562768
fk m8.
Do you plan on drinking outside later, that always fucked me up.

>>10562889
Dont know how long you guys been drinking but for me taperig is drinking 2L of 7.5% beer before they stop selling alcohol (8pm) after a bender then staying up all night or as much as i can and try to sleep then

>>10562838
Same, they remind me how horrific it can become

>>10562893
yeah drinking outside sucks, last time i was in a psychotic mood chugging all kinds of alcohol in 2017 summer, i went to "visit my grandmother" in another neighourhood, she wasnt even home i just drank alcohol there, talked and annoyed random people in the bus on my way back and then on my way back home from bus stop i kept falling and couldnt stand up, even mom next day told me she saw how i came back home said stuff

>>10562828
>How on earth have you made it 12 weeks in such a condition?
don't have much choice.
>Do you have underlying mental issues?
Where do you think you are? I'm a mess

>>10562804
You were always depressed you just didn't know it.

>>10562838
AA seems pretty gay compared to this. I've been coming here on and off for 4 years.

>>10562901
AA was absolute garbage, i went to detox because of my parents like 2 months ago for the first time, i only spent there 3 days to detox a little bit, but in total you have to spend 14 days there, i wasnt fucked up enough to spend whole 2 weeks there, but i still went to AA meetings there, AA people came there to lecture us about shit, one guy who claimed ot be from AA said he was sober for 19 years when he was asked, the next day he said 17 when he got asked the same, Lol. Also nurses and psychiatrists were retarded too, some other alcoholics were alright, i'd go back there for the medication and the other cool alcoholic people

More than anything I just wish I had someone to really talk to. I have people, I have friends. I have a pet who feeds me shot after shot and tries to bewitch me with trickery, but I've lost two friends of near 29 years this year, and it's just hard. But the temptation is like grapes in a desert, and the sex is elevated.

So there's that. Even if it's in a cloud.

>>10562897
Sounds about right

Just finished a 6 day binge. Can already feel the withdrawals coming.

>>10562918
no set time required in hospital to get past the acute stuff, you're released as soon as there's no danger.
it gets a lot harder. i've been in for 3 days, another 3, then 5, 7 and last august 12.

>>10562906
Do you have a doctor who kind of gets you?
I'm in your situation but no doctor seems to ever want to give me the time of day and they make me feel like my $120 per hour is a hassle to them.
I recommend finding a better doctor. If I didn't have my wife I don't know where I would be, but I'm still trying to find mental help because it shouldn't be her responsibility.

>>10562932
i decided to give up with docs last year. fuck all they can do for alcoholism really.

>>10562930
You can ask to leave whenever you want, I did that and the nurses tried to make me stay even though they shouldn't. I went downstairs to "eat" with everyone and walked home, the same night I bought0.7l of vodka, chugged it and then stayed sober for like 10 days, i was extremely dissappointed with most of the things at detox

>>10562920
You saying you need a wife? I don't have any friends right now but i think I feel you. Sad truth is we can never be weak like this to our future wives. They need strong men. This is why brotherhoods exist.

>>10562938
pretty sure you were expecting something like rehab, not detox. detox is literally just to ensure you don't die immediately after stopping

>>10562926
Fuck, good luck anon. Do you have any support with friends of family?
My wife always gets me through but not everyone is so lucky.

>>10562926

Welcome to withdrawal hell. Assuming you're not too far gone it's only 3 days though. We'll make it buddy.

>>10562944
Nah I'm on my own. I should be fine in a few days, i ended up throwing up last night when I stopped, feeling sick now bit can't seem to vomit.

>>10562942
I wasn't expecting anything, parents forced me to go there and i almost liked it at first and thought i'd stay, but we also have AA meetings there, and after a week you should start going to AA meetings in the town not at the detox, otherwise you're thrown out

>>10562941
Ugh. You are so far off, you sad sack. I didn't want to be so harsh, but Jesus.

I guess if I was a man I would be insulted.

>>10562932
>>10562920
are you the guy that lives in a cabin with his wife who he met at a grocer?

>>10562949
Yeah, I've been here before. But last time I binged was a 10 day binge and I ended up getting hospitalised after throwing up pure blood all over the place. Should be much easier this time.

>>10562944
Not that anon but how did you meet her and at what age? I'm getting old. >>10562949

>>10562934
Yeah I've give. Up too, because if you die they are not liable and it's much easier for them to treat housewives with mild depression.
GPs are almost all more selfish than alcoholics, but you can find the odd one who wants to help. At least I hear you can.

>>10562954
>female
Pff. No insult take sweetheart.

>>10562958
I'm the first guy Anon, but I'm not your guy. Wish I was, a cabin sounds like a cool place to off myself.

why dont you guys just stop drinking

>>10562981
how

>>10562920
>>10562941
>More than anything I just wish I had someone to really talk to
>goes on to insult the person who tries to talk to him
Gee I wonder why you don't have anyone to talk to

I've been on a hard 4 day bender, first time in years. Will I get WDs, and if so, what should I expect? For the past 6 months I've had a 6 pack of 8% beer a night and haven't experienced anything bad.

>all these typos and misquotes including my own
Kek. I love you bros.

>>10562983
dont buy it anymore

>>10562974
And desu after deep philosophical thoughts while drinking beer alone in a corner in my commieblock neighbourhood I now I think understood that most of us should look for Peace, not for love. TO find true happiness

>>10562988
i've tried that

>>10562986
have fun

>>10562974
Whatchu swiggin brah

>>10562918
AA is full of shitty people. Why would I want to go to a room full of weathered old smokers who drink shit coffee that do nothing but blather about themselves.

You either cowboy up and get over this shit or you don't. It's a binary choice. Listening to Steve the overweight accountant talk about how he lost his kids for the 20th time while he smokes a menthol just isn't for me.

>>10562981
I did for 9 days. Fight me.

>>10562986
Expect anxiety and shit. Last time i had a 2day mini bender and sobered up and even stayed up all night when i tried to sleep i had weird auditory hallicunations that scared the shit out of me and i felt like im suffocating randomly after a few mins of eyes closed, for a few seconds ;D hah.

>>10562998
Yep.

>>10557490
too real

>>10562999
Hahaha! Yes! I was sober for 5 days last time, then drank for 2, sobered up for 3 days again and now destroying myself again, it only gets worse for me with sobriety!

bump limit soon. getting real tired of making the OP.

what is the best method of tapering?
t. heavily concerned alcoholic with genetic alcoholism who drinks every night

>>10563014
>>10563017

I made one with myself in the pic, lets all go post there

>>10563022
troll.

>>10563026
No, not a troll that's me add me on fb.com/autistas200 i'll reply

>>10563019

Stay strictly to beer, buy only as much as required by the taper, and plan your drinking hours so that when you get the temptation to buy more you literally can't and are forced to just tough it out.

If you're really severe taper in a hospital, don't try it alone.

Good luck buddy.

Best sex I ever had was with an alc girl. She wasn't my long lost love but I think about her often. Probably shouldn't have left her. I might have a son/daughter i dont know about.
Life is quite a ride

>>10563017
>>10563017
>>10563017

new thread

>>10563031
just delete the thread dumbshit.

>>10563013
:) it's all a game with increasing benefits. Try to go 1 week, it's more than sobriety. You touch the face of God, whose son: Jesus Christ, loved and blessed all sinners.
Wether you do that or not, peace be with you.

>>10563039
Facepalm.
>>10563036
Crazy/damaged girls are always good in bed.

>>10562926
Coffee, Wank. Tea in that order.

I made155mils on runescape whichi s 80 eurs and i dont care at all i lost it all i dont give a fuck lmfao

who wants to call me?

>>10563532
always either too drunk to socialise, or too sober.

>>10563532
New thread anon. (Scroll up). I'm ausfag but I'm sure some anon does/can.

>>10557505
Why cant we stop.

36 days sober. Got drunk every day for 2.5 years in college. Still graduated. Have felt liver pain and had IBS for a while and probably got a combined total of 3 hours of REM sleep during that time. Previous streak was two weeks. Highly recommend a proper break. Being a chronic drunk deranges and enfeebles you. A man's life should be one inclined to activity and the exercise and employ of mind and will to one's ends. Alcohol will forever keep you passive, inactive, and stifled. A man is not born to sit and lie around pissed and rue and ruminate and stew to no end other than his own atrophy of mind and will.

Proper new thread:

>>10564351

>>10564351

>>10561886
>Skills Bay bills yo
t.drugdealer