/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>what makes this better? >now what makes that taste better?
repeat

there's a theory that it was given to us by aliens

>>10542620
But how did the aliens figure it out?

>>10542630
how the fuck should I know

>>10542645
nice dodge klaptorg.

>>10542617

>>10542654
>klaptorg
I'm not sure what I was expecting

>>10542664
how else would processed food become?

>>10542664
He has the general idea right though. It's quite obvious that the process we use today was developed through people (accidentaly) trying out new things and finding out that that the taste changed.

Autistic people like to experiment

I am more concerned about how someone discovered how to eat blowfish/gugu without dying..

how hard to you think it is?
>big fruits surely we can find a way to consume this
>meh, it's only beans, but we can still dry them for storage in hard time
>too hard to eat, let's powder them and put water
>not too bad, needs more spices
>european invasion bring this to France
>olalala those indians really drink this I am so hardcore guys
>shit's too strong for women like me, I will use milk instead of water and add some fucking sugar
>wa la, now we're talking
>another jump in time
>hey,wouldn't it be great if we had candies that taste like the cocoa drink? can't be that hard.
>as expected, it works better in fat based candies, since it's mostly milk.
not so hard.

>>10542718
You should actually look it up. There's a lot more to it.

But to answer OP's question, like all fermented foods, was discovered accidentally.

>>10542718
I think he's referring more to the processing of cocoa bean gunk into hard chocolate, which is surprisingly complicated

>>10542699
There was probably a fair amount of possible starvation involved

>>10542734
just add butter, milk and sugar then put in the fridge

What i want to know is who was the first person do milk a cow.

>>10542763
>grug see teh little cows drink from teh udders
>me got idea: grug drink from teh udder
>grug not little cow tho, grug stupid
>but grug went and drunk from teh udder even though he stupid, and from this day forward we all drink milk as a source of calcium and other vital nutrients

truly groundbreaking

>>10542763
probably was thirsty and saw some baby cow or pig sucking on its mother's tits and went "fuck it"

>>10542742
This, "Hunter/gatherer" is just a polite way of saying "will eat nearly anything"

>>10542763
Cows were domesticated as beasts of burdens first and then humans figured out they also could drink their milk.

>>10542787
>>10542788
>>10542881
that or early humans knew women produce breast milk for their children and saw other animals doing the same shit..

>>10542877
damn dude you smart

>>10542763
many cavemen were into bestiality

>>10542676
it goes deeper

klaptorg

>>10543134

>Jewgle bots parse 4chan
More news at 11

>>10543373
I made the klaptorg post. You shits is dumb.

>>10543378
>I made the klaptorg post
Prove it.

>>10543378
what did you mean by klaptorg then

>>10543417
random alien name.

dumb klaptorg poster

DIN0TENDIES

>>10543437
>v

>>10542590
They probably ate the beans raw first. People have been trying to ferment everything since they discovered alcohol. So then you get fermented beams (less bitter). Then you get trade, so you want to allow them to be preserved better ... so you roast them. Then you grind them up with some sugar and you have chocolate.

>>10543532
I don't think the natives had sugar in their xocolātl.

>>10543577
Don't touch my xocolātl!

I read about how aluminum is extracted and processed recently and had the same thought of how the hell did anyone figure that out.

>>10543134

>>10543134
>>10543169
>klaptorg

I always think about this for all recipes. How did they figure out how to make bread, cake, pie, etc

>>10544973
Start with an unintentional discovery and then refine through trial and error.

>>10544973
ive heard a theory that there used to be more ambient yeast in the air in ancient times so bread would leaven basically on its own

and sourdough breads use a starter dough that's already cultured, so someone probably figured out "shit nigga if i leave this unbaked loaf in the cupboard it makes better bread. what if i mix some of my cupboard loaf with new loaf though"

>>10545357
>ambient yeast

>>10542590
It was mostly just one Dutch guy who played around with it until he made it not suck.

>>10542590
Consider the fact that it took more than a 100 years after cocoa was widely available in Europe for someone to figure out how to turn it into chocolate.

>>10542676
That's really funny; these are all pictures from current /ck/ threads and if you google it again your screenshot is in there too. I guess we'll never know what a klaptorg is.

>>10545700
>>10543422
nevermind.

Anywho I was in rural Central America a few years ago and this woman made a cake (basically a pound cake) with fresh, roasted and ground cocoa seeds in it. Tasted like cocoa powder I guess.

>>10542590
klaptorg xd

>>10545752
is that him?

>>10545820
klaptorg is non-newtonion gender fluid.

>>10542590
>how in the fuck did anyone figure this out? most of the steps seem like insane jumps rather than logic
You can say the same about a lot of the things we take for granted in civilization

Several thousand years of trial and error famalam.

If you want to really have your mind blown, go watch an episode of How Its Made. While they're showing you how something is made, take the time to think about each and every single machine that is used in the process of making an item. All the effort that went into making those machines. The placement of every nut and screw. The shaping of metal into sheets, the refining of plastics. The mining of ores. Entire lives, born and lived, for the purpose of making maybe a few small decisions that went into this giant process of making these machines which can make this singular item.

Industrialised civilization is mind-boggling in its scope and complexity.

What about olives. That is a ridiculous process.

>>10543653

legit most prepared food items started as a rotting pile of trash that someone decided to go through and eat out of it
the process of making cheese, wine or anything fermented with multiple steps happened by chance somewhere.

klaptorg

>>10546519
do not summon him

>>10543669
It took a long-ass time considering aluminum is on of the most abundant elements in earth's crust.

klaptorg me in the googlecap

>>10542734
It's not it's part of the list there. chocolate bars as you know it were just a form of common candy that was made to use the cocoa powder.
Once the first batch was made, they revised teh recipe every year bit by bit to cut costs and adapt to undustrial standard. It's not magic it's just controlled little changes. If people find this hard they can just kill themselves, because that's how you are supposed to live as a human to begin with.

>>10543532
>trying to ferment
Things ferment naturally when put into bottles. And picky eating was death. If the fermentation tasted good then people quickly understood the basics and replicated it. Usually lots of trial and errors but once you got it, it doesn't matter you wasted a few hundred pots.

>>10542590
>cacao pod often comes with its own fermentation bacteria
>sometimes they get left on the ground with shit on top of them
>sometimes people find and eat rotten cacao
>notice it tastes better that way
>wa-la

saving this klaptorg from page 10

Because humans are smart and cute! Cute and smart!
> Hugs.
<3.

>>10546519
Wtf.

>>10548272
how's that sub 100 IQ treating you

>>10545502
>headphones arent vaginas

>>10548085
Klaptorg for brundhabble!

i think that anon was just responding with "klaptorg" to insinuate that the guy he was replying to was an alien, in the same way that you might say "t. alberto" to a portuguese post

this is how they figured it out
also screen

>>10548308
yup

t. klaptorg

>>10548299
wut

>>10546438
>when you stop to think about the massive industrial network it takes to make on sad looking cheeseburger

>>10548364
I remember a while back some food blogger ran a contest to make a BLT "from scratch". The winner did all this crazy shit like drying seawater to make salt, growing his own lettuce and tomatoes, raising chickens for eggs for the mayo, chopping down trees for wood to smoke his bacon, creating his own yeast culture for the bread, etc. But in the end he still just bought a pork belly instead of raising a pig, and bought oil and lemons for his homemade mayo and bought wheat berries for his flour, etc. All these things we take for granted are really only possible because of how interconnected the world has become.

>>10545357
Actually the history says that people at unleavened bread for a very long time until they figured out how to get bread to rise.

>>10546914
That's not how chocolate is made though. Are you confusing with sauerkraut?

>>10543653
ah ah ah, anon, you know the rules, no talkl until i've had my xocolātl