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Are any jobs in cooking actually worth it? I've seen a few cake decorating/baking courses advertised at schools near me, but I don't know if they're actually lucrative. There has to be something better than just being a line cook at some sub-par place. Even if you go for a culinary degree, is it even worth it in the end?

>> No.10512641

>>10512633
You could learn how to make cKe and have a lucrative second income but I wouldn't actually dedicate my life to it if I where you

>> No.10512684

>>10512633
>Are any jobs in cooking actually worth it?
Look up average salaries in the industry and let your dreams die like the rest of us did.

>> No.10512686

This girl I'm catching a movie with next week does that kind of stuff but it's not popular in her country. She always goes overseas on working holiday visas to find work in the field.
Seems like a bad choice, honestly.

That said, why don't you scope out local buisness that do it and ask them what's up?

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>>10512633
cooking, no

COOCCIN, thats a different story

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>>10512633
There's only 2 ways you're going to make good money through cooking.
1) Wedding cakes
2) Being a celebrity

>> No.10512712

>>10512633
I actually been thinking about this, working in a restaurant is hell since you are trapped in a tiny room full of people running around trying to make a different meal for every single person in a room full of people
But there are a lot of craft beer places that are really popular and sell just a couple thematic meals, it can't be that hard to make a bunch of burgers or fry a lot of chicken, plus the way they operate is they rent some place that sucks for cheap, they decorate it and exploit it for a while until it's no longer popular and then they do it again somewhere else, I have been to places that have food that sucks and they still made a fortune
Also there are conventions and I can tell you the food there sucks and is overpriced to hell, f
There are people selling fucking cup noodels with lines of 20 people or more, imagine serving real ramen in a weeb convention, I could learn how to make real ramen, I would make a fortune, last time I ordered "ramen" they served me a bowl with a slice of bacon, undercooked noodels and raw bell pepper

>> No.10512726

>>10512712
>I could learn how to make real ramen, I would make a fortune,
conventions generally dont allow people to set up restaurants on their turf since lot of convention halls disallow it since then you won't spend money at their specific Subway location, but I did this in college with the animu club and we made LOADS E MONE as fairly inexperienced cooks

ramen is really easy to do, it's just soup at the end of the day and yet a lot of places still fuck it up just out of laziness because they can still charge weeb tax on it. if you made quality ramen and charged not too much for it you could probably make bank with a soup cart/food van

>> No.10512739

>>10512684
A lot of cake decorators on glassdoor seem to be making around $30k, which seems pretty good to me.

>> No.10512740

>>10512726
How did you do it? I've been wanting to set up a stand for baked goods but I'd need a fuckton of permits and licenses to bake them in my kitchen and sell them legally.

>> No.10512747

>>10512739
$30k is fucking poverty wages

>> No.10512749

>>10512633
>Are any jobs in cooking actually worth it?
Not really, but here's a few exceptions:
>Small menu degustation restaurant that has a small creative staff and matching for food and wine etc
>Catering company that produces high quality food and has an organised crew
>Small bakery that, again, has a small menu of very high quality baked goods and cooks a large batch and then closes when sold out.

You see a theme here? Jobs in the industry where you actually have creative control and an uncongested menu that's kept fresh are fun and satisfying, but just don't expect great pay unless you own said business.

>> No.10512751

>>10512633
>Are any jobs in cooking actually worth it?

Yes. Being the GM of a restaurant. That's it.

>> No.10512755

>>10512726
Here is the thing, there are two kinds of food I see at conventions, the guy with a tent selling cup noodles for fuck you money and then there is the guy who somehow figured out he will set a real restaurant in the middle of an anime convention and the place is empty because weeks don't have that kind of money, they are saving for a sword or getting another figurine
The tent guy sells food that sucks but people buy it because there isn't an option
I could make food better than him that weeks would line up to order and charge less, I know how to cook so why not?
As for selling food inside the convention let's you rent the space for it so I figure anyone with enough money could do it

>> No.10512772

>>10512740
I don't think conventions give two fucks about that but the way you could get around getting a food permit is renting a place somewhere cheap with a lot of crime where there aren't any surprise inspections and they don't care if you got rats crawling around or you are selling contaminated food and you bake there (or just bake at home and pretend to bake there) then since you aren't cooking anything, you are just reheating food and the food is actually baked somewhere where it's legal then you aren't breaking any laws are you?

>> No.10512777

>>10512749
How do I get into catering without being a woman and/or gay?

>> No.10512795

>>10512740
>How did you do it?
well it was
>anime club
so we just asked the student union if we could use a certain space in the school that was actually already equipped as *most* of a kitchen but lacked a range. we brought our own grill and hotplates. we didn't have to worry about rent or anything but we took in a lot of money for an event we thought was going to be pretty dead

>I've been wanting to set up a stand for baked goods but I'd need a fuckton of permits and licenses
yeah same, for ages I've wanted to try getting money in the winter months when work is slower by erecting a coffee cart and just offering basic cheap coffee around universities and undercutting Second Cup/Starbucks. but I'm not sure if it'd be legal and I don't think people buy that kind of stuff anymore anyway, it's all fraps and braps these days

>>10512755
>tent guy
is this a thing? I've never been to an animu con outside of my city and don't like annie may enough anymore to go to one ever again.
anyway i stand by my statement; ramen is very cheap and if you sell it for reasonable prices but have something at least as good as cup ramen made at home with the wrong kind of egg, people will come back for more, recommend their friends try it, etc. you'll make money

if you're in college maybe try to secure a space to start a student run business, maybe do a trial run this summer at an anime con if you can get a booth. you can make a stock well ahead of time, add veggies the day of, and boil noodles to order very easily. you can get just the noodles alone at any asian grocer and even get a tub of stock powder often from the same place. better than the flavor packets

especially so if youre in college, it'll be better than the vegan slop that usually gets handed out of student run cafes and it's not hard to just make a miso or soy ramen with no meat in it to appease the soyboys

>> No.10512836

>>10512795
>is this a thing?
its not really a tent but the convention center has designated places, you dont need much equipment, just a propane tank with one of those burners attachments, a big pot, one of them cheap woks, etc
there are tents but those go outside mostly, i dont know how to describe a table with people selling sushi and instant soup
>you can make a stock well ahead of time, add veggies the day of, and boil noodles to order very easily. you can get just the noodles alone at any asian grocer and even get a tub of stock powder often from the same place. better than the flavor packets
pretty much, the thing about ramen is that is suppossed to be street food so it cant be that hard to pull off
im not in college bro, im too smart

>> No.10512848

>>10512836
well just like go for it man, do some dry runs at home in making soup in general but ramen is a good street food because the noodles cook so fast and all you need is a big pot of broth and some par boiled veggies

this thread is inspiring. you do your ramen thing, i'll do my coffee thing, we'll meet in hell after dying of poverty

>> No.10512854

>>10512633
Actually my son and I are cooks averaging around 238k annually.

>> No.10512862

>>10512854
probably bait but on the slim chance it isn't how do you do it?

>> No.10512880

>>10512862
My name is Gordan Ramsay

>> No.10512881

>>10512777
Volunteer yourself at a catering place for a few shifts, show them you can do the job and get a feeling for if you like it or not.
At the very least, if they don't hire you, you've got experience and a contact on your resume for the next place you go to, and word/rep makes a big difference in the local hospitality industry.
Rinse and repeat until you have a job in catering, or you discover you suck and try for different avenues.

>> No.10513161

>>10512633
Any job where rich people or hipsters grossly overpay for their food

otherwise you will be under appreciated, underpaid and over worked.

>> No.10513488

Only way to make any real money in food is with your own business. The flipside of that being that easily %90+ of those businesses fail in the first five years. So you'll probably lose money.

>> No.10513541

>poisoning people as a career
Eat meat, drink water, and go do something productive.

>> No.10513563

>>10512633
most culinary degrees are worth shit. the best way to move your kitchen career forward is to hook up with your local restaurant association, it's great for networking which is essential in a business where it's more who you know than what you know. they also often have apprenticeship programs for if you're just starting out or wanna move past being the basic prep guy