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Destruction. But why new thread?

>>10468178
No. I'm not drinking until May

>>10468246
my family hate me, my being an alchie was too much for them all. won't pick up the phone if i call and tell me to fuck off if conversation is unavoidable.

>>10468246
>Your family not liking you edition

your mom's google history

>>10468252
It was at 332 posts. The bump limit is 315

please post your face

I come into these threads whenever I feel down, so you losers remind how well I'm doing.

>>10468274
I did

Day one. I'm better than you.

>>10468246
My family still likes me a lot, but I think it's because it's easier since it really is just me and my parents. Extended family likes me but we never see them anymore, maybe only once a year if that.

I maintenance drink around my family when I have to go to family events, Usually vodka and water from a water bottle. I don't get too drunk but I drink enough so I don't shake/sweat and I'm not an asshole to be around. I sometimes wonder if I'm fooling everyone or EVERYONE knows but they don't say anything...I am honestly never sure. I eat a ton of mints and use a lot of body spray

I think my family knows I'm an alcoholic but It's like an unwritten rule that no one discusses it or brings it up. My sisters sister (sister in law) once cornered me at my sisters house alone and said "Are you OK _____? Why are you always so down? I really care about you and don't like seeing you destroying yourself". Hit me right in the feels


Luckily my mother and father never bring it up, They are just happy I'm still alive I think

>>10468300
How old are you man?

Also vodka is GOAT, It's the alcoholics go to drink.


Please keep posting here, It's a nice change of pace

>>10468323
>My sisters sister (sister in law)

I mean't my sisters husbands sister

>>10468246
For some reason my mom and dad actually love me even though I'm pathetic. I don't understand it at all.

When you lads get shakes is it just your hands or your whole body? Only my hands shake but I'm drunk right now and they're still shaky so I've never been sure if they're alcoholic shakes or for some other reason.

>>10468407
put on a sweater anon

>>10468413
I'm not cold.

>>10468378
sunk cost fallacy

>>10468415
My hands are just very unsteady and didn't use to be like this until I started heavily drinking.

>>10468431
how's you nutrition?

>>10468442
I have a balanced diet. Every meal is a mix of meat, carbs and veg and I don't snack that often. I put the shaky hands down to drinking but you're making me think it must be something else. My mom's been telling me I should go to the doctor's about it for a while thoguh.

>>10468246
Drinking some nice Botucal on ice right now
It's so nice and mellow I gotta watch out to not accidentally get wasted

>go on trip with ex wife and daughter
>she cant drive so i offer, she says i can come
>ex wants to buy me a few drinks at the hotel bar
>justbeingfriendly.jpeg
>she gets hammered
>I have to carry her to bed
>kiddo is sleep
>i hate her with a passion
>i drop her in bed, she pulls me in
>loud as fuck, going to wake up kiddo
>i go into rage mode and choke her so shell stfu
>she passes out from choking
>i nut inside her
>she asks if we had sex in the morning I say i dont remember

mfw I may of just got my ex wife pregnant

>>10468532
>may of
So fucking annoying. It's may have you literal retard.

>>10468596
im still hung over. cut me some slack

>>10468532
>things that never happened for 500 Alex

>>10468631
happened 2 nights ago. Not sure why I care if you believe me or not

but my family loves me

>>10468532
Do you really hate her though? If you feel like you can get back together then I say you should both try it. Although the main thing imo is making sure that your daughter has a good life and a good relationship with both her parents. Hope you get a happy end somehow bro.

Pretty sure my mom thinks she's the reason I drink and she sends me all kinds of money and shit. I mean, lots of money.

>>10468655
yeah I do hate her. Its a long story but I wish she would drop dead so I could take my kid. thnx anon

>for the first time ever I can feel my liver on the right side of my ribs

It doesn't hurt, it just feels like... pressing, or something

Hope drinking some water makes this go away

>>10468696
I used to get that, is it actually your liver?

>>10468658
sounds amazing

>>10468703
I don't know desu, maybe a bit paranoid desu because I did 180mg codeine for the first time in a while today and it's coincided with this

Not even sure whether codeiene is bad for your liver desu, although yesterday I had substantially more drinks than normal so maybe it's cumulative

>>10468758
Yep, thats how mine started, now its on both sides and accompanied with back pain as well. I'm 3 days after my last drink and it keeps getting worse.

It's fucking poison, don't act surprised.

>>10468898
Man I'm 23, feels a bit early for this shit

>>10468912

Its never to early for death

i'll never get a gf. i never go anywhere that i'd meet anyone. all my former friends have wives and babbies. how am i the only one to fail, they were all socially useless fuckheads too

>the sweats and anxiety start to set in halfway through a geology exam

>>10468943
I feel the same but I matched with and actually spoke to a girl on tinder a couple of hours ago and now I'm delusional

>>10468943
you never even tried
>>10468958
smash that shit

>>10468943
did u fuck bitches at least?

anyone ever go out at night to at least try and make their social life fulfilling and then going home afterwards and thinking that was the worst thing that could i have ever done and then drinking yourself to sleep to drown out the self hate

haha yeah same

>tfw just drank half a bottle of stoli and ate some tofu tendies
meatfaggots will never know this guilt free feeling, inb4 soyboy.

>>10468898
I get that lower back pain too, my suspicion is that it's my kidneys as a result of being constantly dehydrated and also forcing them through a 24/7 cavalcade of yuengling and pbr

>>10468696
goes away after two days.
you need to stop drinking for at least 5 days or you'll leave perma-damage little by little.

t. professional drinker

>>10468987
>guilt free
you drank russian swill and ate beans.
that should make you just feel bad for every reason.
you could've at least had a potato.

>>10468696
i first noticed that about five years before my life and health went to complete shit
it will stick around a while and not feel like a big deal but it's a warning sign

>>10468924

>>10468980
I haven't been to a party in years for this reason, get some regretting it every time
there's just nothing to talk about, I have nothing in common with anyone there
much rather enjoy getting shitfaced by myself

>>10469182
why not make friends with similar interests?

>>10469182
I have literally no interests yet somehow manage to be perceived as fun to talk to, it's doable mate

>>10468246
Is it weird to drink gin neat? Why does no one ever do that?

>>10468246
>tfw my family is about to hate me when I fail all my finals and flunk out of university
Whooo, here we go

>>10468987
>tofu tendies
They make those? What are they like?

>>10469296
It works better as a mixer.

>>10468378
I know what you mean. They had to explain it to me once, I have a hard time understanding because I don't have kids yet.

Here is how I understand it now.

They knew you literally since the second you were born. They held you for hundreds of hours often while you cried at the severity of being alive, the fear and loneliness that comes with being human, upon you since the day you were born, they were there for you through it all until you become old enough to start really separating mentally and physically from them, and even now as an adult.

When you were little you asked questions that opened their minds, growing up you said and did things that made their heart grow. You were their companion when they felt alone. You made them laugh when they wanted to cry. Nothing will ever end the friendship and love they feel for you.

It's like men who go to war and face death together, it's hard to explain but it's a real bond. They brought you into life and faced it together with you. None of your sins and faults will ever matter to them, those things are not you. They know you, the eternal you, the beam of light that shines through the darkness which they will think of forever in this life, the dearest to them even as they pass on to the next.

Love your parents back and forgive yourself as they forgive you. That is life.

What do you guys usually get your mom on her birthday?

>>10469296
gin neat was the first sip that ever touched my lips and i was in love. it was 11th grade and i pinched a bottle from my senile grandparents' house. it tasted like christmas. i told my girlfriend i loved her. i kissed her and told her i never wanted to let her go.

her face lit up like magic, her emotions heightened by the gin. we had sex for the first time that night. i didn't wear a condom and i came inside her and I stumbled out into the snow to buy Plan B and i felt alive and holy and I've been chasing that moment ever since

I'm so glad I stopped drinking. Almost bought beer but glad I did not.

>>10469296
that's just a martini with a twist and no vermouth...people order them

>>10469429
Im such a bad son i always need my dad to tell me it's her bday and vice versa. The most I can muster is usually a card sometimes handwritten. They always save them and keep them around the house. I see them and think what a shit I am. They see them and think "I have a good son"
Manly tears bros

>>10469296

Gin by itself tastes like old man cologne

>>10469234

People don't care about anyone's interests. If you are not funny, clever, or insightful (to them), people won't care about you.

Bumping

just woke up after a two hour drunk nap. expected to be asleep for way longer than that but whatever. i pissed on the bed while trying to pee into a bottle, is it okay to sleep in it for now then wash my sheets in the morning? thanks lads

>>10468980
Yeah for sure. Whenever i went out specifically for that reason some old man or chad will say or do something to make me remember i hate being around normies and only normies do this (go out to fill a void in their life). It's God's way of confirming to me the normie way is the way to hell.

Anyone of you fellas have any good remedies for getting over a cold really quickly? (Like 1-2 days)

I need to drink on Friday, maybe even Thursday and I hate drinking when I have a cold because it ends up lasting so much longer.

>>10469637
rum

>>10469071
What happened at 5 years?

>>10469057
I think the damage is pretty much inevitable unless you quit for 2-5 months at a time.

I'm considering a 60 day break to see if my health improves. Not really looking forward to visiting the doctor and giving my life story.

>>10469568
i wouldnt let it seep into the mattress
if u can clean it up, do it as soon as possible lest you want your room to smell like piss forever

>>10468429
>>10469425
2 kinds of people in this world

>>10469637
Stop drinking?

>>10469728
I've given my first doctor my life story and then I moved and gave the next doc my life story immediately. I don't even care if it bodes well or not for me to tell them everything, but it is certainly easier than having to formulate a plan of what kind of information to withhold or whatever. I just let it all rip and don't give a shit anymore.
I've never told a doctor I was a smoker though, that's the only thing.

>>10469728
This. The liver doesn't start to recover unless you quit drinking for 40 days at least. Which means most adults and definitely alcs are fucked.

>>10469830
>live in cucknada
>doctors literally have access to everything any doctor has ever wrote about you
wew lads

>>10469839
I heard Artie Lange was able to get some solution from a clinic because he was tipped off by one of his friends. It cost 8,000 dollars, but once he got it in him his sky high liver enzyme levels went back to normal immediately.

>>10469856
Oh wait sorry I made a mistake, it cost him 80,000 dollars.

>>10469868
"serum"=shady liver transplant

How is Costco's vodka?

>>10469890
does it really matter?

>>10469925
Answer the fucking question.

>>10469890
why is this cartoon creature drooling like a retard?

>>10469637
The C vitamin.

And also some alcohol.

>>10469883
You think so?

>>10468710
This.
Wish my cunt mother could spare me any money. She did zero planning for my future. I doubt I'll inherit so much as a cent from her when she dies. At least my father's side takes care of me, or else I'd be an angry drunk instead of a happy one.

>>10469945
Have you ever had an LFT done? There's a lot of markers and enzymes they're looking at. Idk how some super serum would correct all that. I'd post my last one, but I'm on the phone and I'm not going over to the computer because it's cold.

>>10469049
Well then DRINK WATER you fucking cunt

>>10469637
Dice half an onion. Throw some brown sugar in it. Add the juice of 1-2 lemons. As much whiskey as you want with vitamin C.

>>10469929
costco liquor is top tier for the price

>>10469970
>bloobloobloo mummy won't let me leech off her for the rest of my NEET life

>anon you just have to try harder!

I lifted for a year. I graduated school, and got a well paying job. I socialize, and play in a band. I have a couple real life friends.

I'm not happy. I hate my life. I just want to feel as happy as I did with my only gf I've ever had, planning all the babies we were going to have. It feels like every year, it accelerates a little more, and that the odds of that happening decrease even more. Leaving school felt like the last big checkmark on that. I'm not at a job with people that are *all* 10+ years over me, most of them 20+. The closest thing I have is a grill who is 13 years older than me, and just reminds me of what my ex-gf would have been like at her age. I don't meet women playing in an alt-rock cover band. Well, I've met one, who was the trashiest woman I've ever chatted much to, and am glad we never went anywhere with it.

I have nobody left to vent to, anymore. My ex-gf who I still love to death has had a baby with her husband now. We chat, maybe once a month. But she tries to not think or talk about my bad feelings. I know it hurts her to hear. All my friends I feel comfortable discussing this with have heard it a million times over. There's fuckin' nowhere left to turn to, it feels like. I've tried all the free online dating sites, apps, and everything. I'm not even bad looking, or that socially retarded. But I never get messages, replies, or matches, even when I get drunk and *try* really fucking hard.

I hate myself in the morning after drinking every night, but it's the only fucking thing that keeps me from just offing myself. It's not holding me back from trying with women. I just don't know where the fuck else to look.

All I want is a traditional wife, who I could love, marry, and have stay at home to raise 3-4 kids for us, on a comfy semi-rural house with land. The fucking standard for everybody prior to the last couple generations. It's a fucking jackpot one in a million shot, and I fucking blew it.

>>10470129
I'm at a job with people*

>>10470129
What are you anons sipping on this Boozeday Tuesday? I killed a few rum and cokes at my favorite bar with dinner, and have been hitting the Old Crow since getting home.

Is alcoholism really “genetic”? It always seemed like a meme argument to me, but my dad is a lifelong alckie and since I turned 21 it’s been hard not to drink constantly. What gives? Is it because of depression or just is it easier to become dependant on substances? I can’t imagine normies have this much of a problem putting the bottle down.

>>10470129
Don't feel too bad. I haven't dated anyone in 5+ years. It's not all bad. It was embarrassing when I had to work for people and they need to know who I'm bringing to the Christmas party, and I'm the only person in the company without a date. But I work for myself now. I don't really get lonely anymore. I just read stuff online and post here. I'm 34 now and everyone my age is either married or has kids or both. It doesn't bother me that I may go through life alone. I just need a gun for when I can't take care of myself anymore.

>>10470165
I don't care that people know I'm single. Being married, and having a large family of children that I can provide for comfortably, is all I want out of life. And my only driver in life is something that, at this point, is becoming such a foreign concept that I can never imagine happening. I'm hitting that "fuck it, I'm cashing out." phase. But, 6 years ago, I promised I wouldn't kill myself until July of 2019, at the earliest, and that's what I'm sticking to, I guess.

Anyone want to talk on omegle?

>>10470165
>feel lonely all the time
>wish i had kids, gf, the works
>look at paycheck
>mentally imagine all the deductions if I had people depending on me
>go home
>feel like I don’t have enough freetime with zero (0) obligations aside from work
>realize im living free compared to anyone with a ball and chain

The loneliness still hits every once in a while but being single is great if you look at it comparitively. My dad is divorced and tells me every time I see him to never get married. As I grow older I understand what he meant.

>>10470158
I think it honestly has to do with propensity to depression, coupled with certain mental predispositions. I've honestly found that alcoholics seem to start out as rather intelligent people who suffer from severe depression and incapability in social interactions.

It really ends up being a self-medication type thing that spirals out of control. I self-medicate for social retardation, which I think comes from riding the autism-spectrum line, even without ever getting a diagnosis. I'm retarded socially. When I'm drunk, I don't fucking care.

>>10470174
You feel unfulfilled because you are unloved and don't have children.

>tfw literally everybody at work is a parent, or is expecting children
>tfw the only non-parent in the room of 100 people
>look around every day
>I'm 185 pounds, 6', work out
>so many of them are gargantuanlly obese and unattractive

I guess I just don't have the right stuff to be happy.

>>10470178
I have this too. Women become very interested in me and laugh at my jokes when I’m drunk, because of exactly what you said, I stop giving a fuck. It’s a huge social buff.

Preparing for day two. Just got back from gym took shower now going to eat eclairs and drink chocolate milk. This is how I cope.

>>10470187
I would assume your standards are higher than most of the people in your office. Would you have considered having kids with any of the mothers, or your male coworkers wives? I suspect you would not be interested in most of them. You could easily find a wife if you lowered your standards.

I have conseling tmrw morning but I'm drinking tonight lmao
I'm gonna fucking die

>>10470187
I think that's crap. You're only unfulfilled if you don't like who you are. Having kids isn't some magical fucking thing either. Lots of people don't speak to their kids/parents.

>>10470188
If it comes to women I'm interested in, I still freeze up. Unless I'm shithoused fucking plastered drunk. Then, I can sometimes pull off being somewhat normal around them. Then, sober, it's a shitshow. I've only ever dated my ex-gf, and this girl I met at a gig my band had. This girl and I went back to my band's singer's place for a party, because she knew him well. We made out and all. We went on a date to a movie, then went out for sushi. I sperged the fuck out, threw up in the bathroom, and felt the overcoming urge to tell her that's why I was in the bathroom so long. She stopped talking to me.

A year and a few months. I'll probably wait past then, though. I don't know. My mother subtly threatened suicide last weekend.... If she offs herself, I'll feel open to follow through, myself.

>>10470204
my face rn

>>10470198
Actually, I would wife up and have kids with a couple of the girls at work, if they were single and my age. There's one in particular who would be my ideal wife if I were her age, and could provide to have her as a housewife. Unfortunately, she's 12 years older than me. She treats me like a little brother, and I treat her almost like an older sister, to displace those thoughts and not let them even get in the way.

>>10470205
Did you have a dysfunctional household as a child? Serious question.

Hey buds. Blasted on mead of all things. I was going to sit in here and shitpost/whine but an old friend reached out to play some vidya games.

I'd rather not be speaking alout to him because it's harder to feign composure.

>>10469970
Hey mister we appreciate our moms ITT you better cool your jets bub

>>10470219
Idk. Maybe by some standards but I don't think it's anything unusual.

>>10470241
>tfw tried brewing mead before 21
>it tasted like nasty rocket fuel but I dealt with it
>bought a bottle of mead once
>first glass I poured up, I spilled, after drinking a lot of whiskey
>it dumped on my PC
>for two months after that, I would buy a PC component that failed, install it, and have a different component fail

Never again. It tasted good. But never again.

>>10470129
Hey mister missing your ex was theme of the previous thread you better cool your jets bub

>>10470257
RIP my dude. The last time that I had mead, it was a shitty small $10 cup at a ren faire that tasted like ass. I was dressed like a wizard and little bits of fake beard made it into my mouth with it.

I was compelled to purchase this bottle upon learning that it is from a ... meadery based in my city. Pretty good, would buy again.

Anyone here have sleep apnea?
Not sure if it is why my hangovers are always so bad.
My CPAP hasn't done god damned shit for three months now.

>>10470263
I didn't make the previous thread. I don't think I posted in the previous one, either. I think the last one I personally posted in was 2 threads ago.

>>10470265
It tastes good, yea. I love mead. I just have terrible luck and don't risk it.

>>10470158
Jordan Peterson cited a study that revealed genetic predisposition marked by an immediate raise in heart rate after drinking a few shots worth of alcohol, like it causes some people to relax but born alcoholics get wired up and excited and this leads to binging, it's nearly impossible for them to have just a few and stop, they need to get drunk and/or drink as much as possible.

It is passed down from the father or grandfather.

>>10470271
I generally only snore when drunk. It's a gross feeling catching yourself waking up mid-snore. Feels like being an old fat dude.

Hey wait a minute...

Can beer reach a point of perfection? I've wondered this a long time. Well, that is until I tried Pabst Blue Ribbon™. This is truly perfection!

>>10468246
>General

>>10470287
I wish that I only snored while drunk. I guess I stop breathing and seize up/start thrashing until I can breathe again a;most every night. These doctors had better figure it out soon :(

>>10468246
What's up, lads
>Been a week or so of soberness
>stopped drinking because ... no reason
>went to the grocery to get some shit
>see whiskey. gotta get that shit nigga
>now i'm drinking hella whiskey
Feels fuckin bad man. Back with you lads, which feels a bit better

I keep getting too drunk when I visit my family, but all the years they fucked me over I just can't bear to be there sober without getting bitter. I wish I lived far away. I wish I could just leave.

>>10470295
I feel you, it's a sad condition my dad has it, I remember hearing him yell out in fear sometimes like he was having a bad dream, the lack of oxygen probably feels like a panic attack. He doesn't drink either kek.

>>10470291
PBR is my go-to but why is this post in every thread

>>10470293
See you in the next thread nerd

>>10468429
>>10469425
Sounds about right.

Hey mister you better cool your jets bub

>>10468300
Me again here. I passed out again and i just woke up again, smoked a cig and threw up in the toilet

>>10468332
22

been lying to family

>>10468332
>>10470595
And I have been posting here for years, Lol.

Spice plus wine. Fight me.

al/ck/ discord?

>>10470728
please no. discord is pure fucking cancer.

>>10470728
we have an IRC room
https://client00.chat.mibbit.com/?channel=%23al/ck/&server=irc.rizon.net

How do I drink for cheap?

Spent 3 days trying to get through the toughest patch of fear ive ever had practically breathing manually. Thought I was going to hospital myself thinking id finally gone bananas.
Now im finally over that shit and into the physical. Cramps, headache, chest dropping, shitting painful playdough...
Sucks but id rather take a bullet than take the fear. At least I can think clearly and sleep. Oh fuck yes sweet sweet sleep you beautiful bitch.

>>10470750
just go for the plastic bottles

>>10470750
You dont.

Even if its free you will eventually pay for it.

>>10470752
good luck dude. the ability to sleep well always takes a few days, usually not as severe are yours, but is always the first indicator you're on the right path. i hope you have some nutrition to help you over the next few days

>>10470750
realistically, cheap-ass vodka handles and some chaser. the worst shit isn't worth drinking without any

>sober for 6 or 7 weeks or something
>depression and anger beginning to return
fuck lads, just want to get shitfaced to forget about it all again

>>10470794
Me too bro. 1st day of sobriety i feel anxious/guilty about everything, 2nd day a little better and then it just gets worse, when I'm completely sober on day 3 i start getting angry/irritated/depressed all the time and it just gets worse, Fuck that !

>>10470801
Feel ya bro

>>10470794
do it then

>>10470830
Yeah do it bro i recommend buying 3-5L of vodka, 10L of beer and take a break from humans in your room

>>10470830
>>10470840
feel like this is a trick
at any rate im nowhere near a liquor store and have to slave away in mr shekelsteins shekel mines for another month

>>10470739
>>10470739
I don't understand IRC

>>10470844
facebook chat weirder people.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTgWhsZENFk

Man I remember taking 4g of phenibut in the morning and then listening to this

>>10468977
yeah course, but i want one of my own to fuck. a nice, stable wankpod on whom i can rely, and cheat on with hotter younger girls. not so much to ask surely

>>10468246
I have the opposite problem my family hates me sobre loves me drunk. tho the dmg is starting to take its toll.

>>10470888
>4g of phenibut
how did that go

god fucking dammit aisling bea's cleavage looks so nourishing and delicious. everything makes me want to get rekt, good feels and bad.

>tfw you will never be a 21 year old alcoholic circa 1990

>>10470984
>1390 was more than 100 years ago

>>10470984
>circa 1990
what do you mean by this?

>>10468246
I drank 2 bottles of wine by myself yesterday. I'm only 130 lbs. If I keep drinking I'm gonna end up killing myself aren't I?

>>10471068
no, being 130lbs grants eternal life.

Drinking is dum

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyVYK9tCF80

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3ilpQ-_IME

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bYzB6hCofc

Having said that, it's worth keeping some vodka around for cleaning/deodorizing and in case a dumbass drinks your non-ethyl alcohols.

>>10469970
mine used to steal my pell grants because I was too stupid to realize that money was legally mine, somehow she was cashing the checks and "investing" the money for me. Incidentally I never saw a cent of it.

>>10470918
not that guy but i can never remember what this shit is, so after some research
>phenibut is chemically similar to GABA and the muscle relaxer baclofen
>is an anxiolytic, sedating, euphoria-causing depressant
>it can cause physical dependence and withdrawals in high doses
>is legal

sounds kind of boring senpai i was hoping this was something off the wall like salvia

So I have a question for anyone with experience. I have successfully tapered off alcohol many times, but for whatever reason, this time I simply can’t do it. My brother offered to get me some Xanax from his dealer. How effective is this for withdrawal? Is this going to make things scarily easy?
Can it be dangerous? I plan on taking them responsibly to stop drinking.

>>10471274
I dunno but get me some Xans too please

>have some time off work so go on a three day bender
>on fourth day wake up feeling ill as fuck
>lethargic, dizzy, shitting water, constant nauseous feeling, pain in sides, no appetite
>have to go to work
alcohol was a mistake

>>10471301
i just wouldn't go. not unless i could drink first. i know a crazy dude who distils booze, who drinks a 70cl bottle of vodka on his way to work every morning, in the car with his boss who gives him a lift. he then drinks another through the day working as a tree surgeon, and maybe a third when he gets home.

>>10471274
Xanax is powerful stuff, opiate addicts often use it to avoid withdrawal symptoms but yeah it would help you taper off alcohol just make sure you use it in moderation. I think they actually give it to alcoholics that are going through withdrawal to keep them from having a seizure

>>10471301
you drank some nasty shit didnt you

>>10471301
piss out of my ASSSSS

>>10471319
Thank you for the advice. I am planning on taking it tomorrow and the next day since I will be off work, just to experiment with it and see what it does. I’ll probably wait until I’m withdrawling hard before taking one. I know it isn’t advisable to drink while on it, but if it doesn’t work and give me quick relief when I’m having a panic attack or whatever, what if I take some swigs of my vodka? Could I literally die do to my low tolerance to benzodiazepines?
You seem like you know what you are talking about. My brother is on heroin and uses Xanax to come off it.

>>10468758
only thing in codeine pills harmful to your liver is all the paracetamol

>>10471318
How is that even possible?

>>10471331
Chinese wine, white wine and some 'strong lager'. But it might've been some bad food that did it.

>>10469856
I love Artie.

Best part of the HS show, Besides richard and sal

>>10471318
liar

>>10469933
Don't talk shit about Miyano fag, also she's not usually got ears it's part of a gag scene where she's really hungry and another character has sweets

>>10468957
I'm a geology major desu, what class are you in?

>>10469970
don't talk like that about your mother you fuck

>>10468246
I can't drink fucking craft beer or a good whisky without my parents telling me that I'm a fucking alcoholic. And I'm drinking something like once a month.
my mother is drinking cheap beer day by day and that is okay.

>>10471301
Exactly. It invites you for fun and leaves you with regrets. Like a roastie but worse. Okay maybe not worse.

8 days sober, is this real life?

>>10471863
is this JUST fantasy?

>>10471899
i wish i could be a bohemian. just not give a shit about anything and live on couches while fucking bitches. main problem being that the secret to it appears to be being fucked in exchange for heroin.

Trying to quit this shit after years of non stop drinking, upwards of 9-10 beers a night and liquor during weekends to boot.
I don't dare tapering because I know I will fuck it up drinking my usual amount anyway.
How the FUCK does anyone resist the temptation?

Bumping 4 entertainment/schadenfreude value.

welp. need 2 get some $hit done. $mell u l8tr.

>>10471912
So sleep on your couch and have sex with people ???
Profit
???

>>10471945
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uCB42DDDXPI
plus the people paying you with heroin aren't likely to be the 17yo qt3.14 grils you'd hoped for.

>>10471899

definitely JUST

Only positive thing is that my bank account isnt dried out totally for this weekend

Think I might be in trouble boys. Even if I only drink a little, I throw up in the mornings and can hardly get out of bed until noon.

>>10471863
3 days sober and I feel fantastic. I have no desire whatsoever to drink. I feel like a million bucks,

>>10468281
same.. kind o a shitty thing to do but hey as long it works

>>10472019
>Only positive thing is that my bank account isnt dried out totally for this weekend
Good going mate. I'm dead broke atm. Paycheck not coming in probably until next monday. Have 16 beers and a pint of vodka left.

>>10472044
Your body is telling you to stop drinking. Better heed the warning.

>>10471913
I am the guy who posted this. (Still looking for advice by the way)>>10471380
This is very similar to my problem. I have tapered off with alcohol many times in the past, but with that fucker kindling, shit gets worse and worse every time. I am starting to lose track of time, and drink just to drink, all day every day. Like I said, I am getting some Xanax either tonight or early tomorrow. I will post the results for anyone who is trying to get off vodka or any other hard liquor.

>>10472173
This is some tough fucking shit I tell you man, I poured my last bit of Vodka and Whisky down the drain and I am now down to only two beers, which I will drink and then force myself to bed.

>>10472183
You aren’t going to sleep for a few day, and when you doze off, I’m sure you already know it won’t be real sleep. Just some hallucination type shit. My advice is to not go cold turkey. keep drinking until you can get an appointment with your primary care physician. Do not go to the ER, they don’t give a fuck unless you are in grave danger. Most decent doctors know about alcohol withdrawal, and will prescribe you appropriately.

>>10472192
I'm prepared to not sleep, been there before. Last time I tried to quit cold turkey I was up all night in my bed sweating with some severe heart palpitations, not pleasant at all.
I will also consider getting an appointment if I screw this tapering, which I will do my best to see through.
Thanks for replying to me, first (you) on in this general after 8 months of posting.

>>10472119

Yeah, i wont have my paycheck til end of the month, but fuck sobriety is boring. Godspeed to you anon you will make it, long bender? taper?

>>10471692

People aged 20 and above shouldn't be still living with their mothers, not because of social reasons, but because women in their 40's tend to get crazy

>>10469890
kirkland vodka and grey goose taste pretty damn similar. Did a blind taste test with my mates a little bit ago and we could not tell the difference. No we weren't drunk at the time of the test.

>>10472207
I'll be fine honestly, I started a new job a couple of weeks ago so I already had to cut down a bit. I used to work nights and drink deep into the night. Early mornings now, so I have to pace myself.

>>10470279
I was quite taken aback when I read that because it sounded so familiar. For the first few hours of a bender I always feel like I'm on shit tons of speed or something, I try and explain it to people and they think I'm just saying 'dude I'm wasted lmao' but it feels like my brain is an engine that's just had a load of super rich fuel forced through it and nowhere to transfer all the energy.

Anybody else here ever mixed vodka with pomegranate molasses? And water too obviously. Is pretty good.

>>10470755
woah that's deep man

>>10471380
don't take the whole pill. it has three lines that you should use to split it into thirds. DON'T TAKE THE WHOLE PILL. It's a very strong drug.

I don't know anything about using it for withdrawals, but xanax will generally take all of your bad feelings and make them good ones.

I made the mistake of buying booze a day early
my classes are mon-thurs and was planning on getting super drunk tomorrow night and now this handle is just staring at me
fuck you bottle, I can resist

>tfw drink at least four times a week, more than 2l of beer most of the time, but still not an alcoholic

Heh, it's a pretty good feel. I've developed a disgusting belly but it doesn't really matter. I have a hard time drinking liquor though, keeps me at bay. Dry white wine is the shit though.

I'm new around here btw, hi guys.

I've taken 2 30mg Vyvanse to work overnight on a seminar I'm giving tomorrow at uni. Shit's gotten me in a cool place, like light and smooth speed.

>>10473349
>implying you can resist

>>10473371
Vyvanse is god tier if you need to work throughout the evening, I used to use it for all nighters in my college years. Zero appetite, my dick didn't work but god damn could I ever write an A+ paper.

>>10473385

First time trying it. I'm gonna talk to my psychiatric next week to see if I can get a prescription. I'm already on Prozac, but I'm really held down by extreme procrastination problems. It's 130$ for a box of 30 here in Switzerland, so it be covered by insurance. I got three pills from an ex junkie would traded it for some CBD weed to my best friend.

8 days in, nearly snapped tonight but went to a meeting and got some good chats, plus a copy of the book to have a browse through. Still feel like I could dropkick a puppy for a drink but I'm going to clean my bathroom and go to bed instead.

haven't been drunk since new years but I enjoy these threads

I just had a weird experience the other day with my withdraws and shakes. I was broke af and couldnt afford to buy more alc so I took some acid after work the other day while having shakes and withdrawing. I thought my brain may not be able to handle it since it was fucked up from all the drinking. But I tripped harder than I ever have for 8 hours straight and woke up completely fine the next day with no shakes,desire to drink, or anything at all. I feel better than I have in weeks and Ive been drinking non stop. Is acid the key?

>>10473449
ive done it before and it really does reset the shit some how. I am an asshole tho so I just went back to drinking after a week. but it does help. at least for me Ive had that same experience.

>>10473449
acid definitely stops my cravings for a few days, it makes my problems feel trivial. not in a drunken hero kind of way, but i can see solutions which i just can't see while stuck in a rut.
not surprised you tripped hard, your nervous system would have been on high alert, but i can't really imagine how it'd feel. if you'd had a bad trip though i imagine it'd have been intense.

>>10473475
It was the best trip I ever had i couldn't stop laughing for almost 30 mins straight cause of fry laughs. And I saw the best visuals for 6-7 hours straight that i have ever seen. And I was by myself the entire time but it was real acid not that designer bullshit thats out so I was in control the whole time if shit got a little weird.

>>10473449
Acid is the one thing that makes me tempted to learn how to use the silk road. I want to reprogram my brain so I don't get blackout drunk so much.

>>10473506
whoever made it illegal for even psychiatrists to use lsd with patients needs to be shot. the drugs laws are one of the worst things in the history of planet earth.

>>10473529
Don't be silly. Drugs are easy to get, even if you don't know anyone. The government is the reason you can use Tor to buy drugs in the first place you know.

>>10473546
hardly. them creating roads doesn't mean they're the reason people speed. i don't fancy being caught for ordering class a through the post.

>>10469568
buy a waterproof mattress cover and a new matress. the smell will never come out.

t. slept on a pissed bed for five years

>>10469568
i once put out a smoke in my piss jug, then unleashed a piss, just to realise i was soaked. the smoke had burned a hole in the bottom and i'd emptied my bladder freely all over the bed instead.

>>10472269
that explains it
i was 10 when my mom was 40

>>10472295
kirkland is rebranded grey goose, if i remember right

>>10473589
based

>>10469568
Buy some white vinegar. Not any cleaning product stuff, the stuff in the food isle. I used to piss the bed a lot when I lived on my own and it saved my skin countless times (the apartment was fully furnished before I moved in too so it was my landlords lol).

It will clear the piss right out but the vinegar smell will be really fucking strong for like a week. I got the deposit back from that landlord so its guaranteed to work.

>>10468474
take a multivitamin every morning

>>10473681
Noted

>>10468246
Who alone here? No one finds me interesting enough to hang out with me, also I haven't had a friend for five year's.

>>10473972
i've pushed away all my friends and find it impossible to see why anyone would want to hang out with me and never contact anyone that could possibly even want to do something with me

>>10473972
IKTF

>>10471274
It's safer to taper off with Xanax so you don't withdraw as long as you use the Xanax responsibly. I used to take temazapam for hang overs. Worked like a charm.

I've been drinking most days for a year. How long till I start getting withdrawals?

>doing government research mind control drugs instead of mushrooms
It's a felony either way why not take the natural option that has a symbiosis with humanity eons old? LSD is a fucking meme.

>>10474037
Can you buy it online? There is like a few week stint where that shit grows in the UK but its in September

>>10472409
Never heard of it. Is it like grenadine?

>>10474034

Drinking how much? 1 beer a day? A handle of Jack Daniels a day?> A fifth of 151 a day?

>>10474034
Never as long as you keep drinking.

>>10474079
About 5-8 drinks a day.

>>10474061
You can buy salvia online legally in many places, it's like shrooms and dmt that you come down from in 5 mins. Can be extremely overwhelming and intense though, forewarning.

Shrooms are illegal everywhere as far as I know, but people can grow their own legally somehow. I think you can buy the spores online legally then grow them in a shoebox. Never tried that myself.

>>10474099
well I go through a fifth of 90 proof schnapps and a 24oz beer in a night and wake up with the shakes. Not sure if those count as actual alcohlol withdrawls.. Although, I know it's not good

>>10474130
Addendum...I don't do this every night.

>>10474102
>it's like shrooms and dmt that you come down from in 5 mins
nope

>>10474173
That's the closest analogy I'm willing to make. How would you describe them contrarian faggot with your one word reply? Kys.

>>10474037
you sound like an idiot. they're completely different. plus psilocybin is horrible.

>>10468246
>>Your family not liking you edition
Good thing I have a brother who is far worse than I am to make me look good in comparison.

>>10474208
mine is a huge success, my parents have told me that they like him a lot more than me, lol.

I wish there were more documentaries on alcoholism, pretty sure I’ve seen them all

Will weed help you quit a drinking habit? I've never done drugs but if it helps cut my habit before it becomes too serious then I'd consider it.

>>10474268
The effects of weed are shit compared to ethanol.

>wake up from blackout with debilitating anxiety and nausea

at least I got xanax, weed, and more booze to take the edge off

>>10474268
It certainly did for me.

>>10474258
it's not a doc but have u watched the elizabeth vargas thing? that was interesting

>>10474207
>brainlet thinks shrooms are horrible
>brainlet thinks you should only recommend things similar to mind control research drugs from the government
>brainlet calls others idiots
You're a mistake.

>finally quit drinking and xanax after years of self medicating for stress and anxiety
>start to get my life back together
>older brother comes out as a transgender
Convince me not to go buy a bottle right now. Ive been drunk for the last three days straight puking just from the stress. He is the only family i have im extremely right wing conservative this shit is fucking me up man

>>10474396
Show him sexchangeregret.com

>>10474207
>>10474273
Sametard? You seem to be unable to comprehend why people suggest different substances
>hurrrhhh it's not even the same thing
Yeah, they're different substances you retarded methbaby.

>>10474408
Could you please go back to /b/? This isn’t a kiddy thread.

My ass always hurts should i be worried and is this related to constant drinking? asking fora friend

>>10474422
Do you get the shits from drinking? I do sometimes then my ass hurts. Also if your an alchy it could be withdrawal

>>10474396
Who cares? That's all on him. You won't be tasting all the cocks he is going to suck are u ? Worry about your self

>>10474431
Im very empathetic. I read that 40% of trans people try suicide and hes had a fucked life already. One of my only friends of course i worry. Im not selfish by any means and will never understand why most people are incredibly selfish.

>>10474373
>calls others a brainlet
>DUDE DRUGS LMAO
Fuck off burn out.

>>10474396
so? just support the guy. not sure why that would make you stressed.

Does anyone else wait until the weekend and then drink the entire time until your next day of work? I try to distance myself but I always end up opening a bottle when I know I don’t have shit to do

>>10474505
I have to pretend my brother is a woman and call him by

>>10474530
A girl name. Also have to explain to everyone we know what happened.

>>10474422
It's the rape elves

>>10474530
>>10474533
Why would that be a source of stress?

>>10474530
>>10474533
Read that back and think about how easy that is to do. Will take some getting used to for sure but it's not something to stress about at all.

>>10474548
Dude are you joking... Do you live in Stockholm or something? This is the south nobody is going to even look at mr the same after this

>>10474556
are you going to get shamed for not excommunicating or personally stoning your transgender brother

every single time I've gotten myself worked up about Disapproving Looks it was all in my head

>>10474556
104744548 here. Nope. Texas redneck.
Nobody is going to look at you any different. Your bro? Sure. But not you.

>>10474673
I hope your right. I realky am trying to be oaky with it im just physically sick thinking about it. Explaining it to my wifes family is going to suck too. They know hes all i got and they are racist homphobic rednecks.

>>10474418
>being this rustled
Sign out of life.

>>10474466
>being this much of a square
Why are you here? This isn't a lounge for normies you fucking fag.

>>10473413
It's some good shit. I can't take it anymore, because uppers throw me into a loop. I used to take it in the morning and I'd be reeling until midnight.

Sober tonight. That whiskey hangover today at work sucked ass.

i'm down to $5 and can't chose between two 24 oz of OE (the 7.5% ones) or a four loko. hooray

>>10475049
dude no joke walgreens down the street from me sales a 6er of natty ice for 3bucks.

get the two 25oz

Went out drinking with a pal tonight, I kept drinking after he had enough, as usual.

Now sipping some shine n' soda (moonshine + sparkling water) at home, I hope it's good shine that won't blind me.

Planning on picking up a lot of gin later in the week and making some martinis.

>>10474722
Why is it up to you to explain shit? This has nothing to do with you, this is your sibling's issue to deal with.
>I'm not selfish
>nobody is going to look at me the same after this

It's fine dude. Be there for them when they need it. Be a supportive brother. Trans people are cool.

What's a decent cheap beer that isn't sickly sweet?

>>10475368

Shine will never "blind you". Stop listening to that shit. The highest content of methanol is the result of fruit. No one uses fruit to make shine. Regardless, they'll never be able to concentrate methanol from pectin in a normal mash.

If its not coming from a lead based car radiator, you're fine. Jesus Christ you people are chemically ignorant.

>>10475466
Thanks brother, I've drank some before and it's turned out fine, but I always get paranoid because I don't know exactly where it's made.

>>10475473

Just make sure those assholes use silver solder. Mercury isn't your friend.

>>10475479

They use these kind of cooling vessels in CANDU reactors. They have robots that clean the particulate off of them ever 5 years or so

>>10472371
fuck, this. when alcoholic energy drinks were new (2003-ish?) a sixpack was almost better than coke because of the psycho rush being reinforced and amplified

>>10473529
while i agree, lsd is not to be fucked with casually. people who are mentally prone to personality disorders/schizophrenia can be put into an early prodromal period

>>10474099
I did that for about 4 years, and it wasn't until I went on a 4 day binder (over a fifth a day) that I felt them at work.

I've been binging hard for about 2 weeks. I have 9 beers left and am completely broke. Any tips for how to deal with the recovery? I can ride out the anxiety and vomiting but I am worried about seizures.

>>10475582
How many drinks per day have you normally had in the past 2 weeks?

>>10475592
20

>>10475595
Shit man, 3 a day maybe? Or ride it out until you're heart is about to jump out of your chest then crack one open?

god bless being puerto rican my whole family drinks non stop a man has never lived past 75 in our family as long as anyone alive can recall

>>10475640
I think I might just finish my beers tonight and then get a cab to my family doctor's office when they open. He and I are on good terms and I will ask him for an emergency supply of ativan. That should get me through the withdrawal, I should be find after a few days.

Back in the strip club again. Can't seem to get back on the waggon again. The sad part is I'm not sure I want to anymore. I complete all my responsibilities and then at about 8PM enter all/ck/ mode. By 11 I'm either about to fuck a hooker, in the club, or even worse, tipping a camslut.

I've been doing this for 8 years. On and off. For the first time ever I'm not sure if I want to stop. It's pretty scary. Drinking 600ML on average a night can't be good for my health, but I feel fine. I know I will till I don't.

Fuck. Not sure if I want to give this life up. Even if I saved the money, what would I spend it on? I already have a House. I spend 80% of my discretionary income on sex workers. I need to find a reason to stop.

>>10475676
You need spiritual awakening my friend. It is time to dispossess yourself of your worldly possessions and become an aesthetic. Start by reading the Bhagavad Gita.

>>10475676
If you have no goals why stop? You don't have to hate your life.

>>10468980
i did that when i got a hooker, never felt more less than

>only 22 years old
>drinking 5 nights/week
>convinced I will probably never find love

I really should know better. It's probably my arrogance talking but I'm not a bad looking man. I had plenty of sex in college but I've never been able to find a good relationship since, and I lack the ambition or vision required to get anywhere great in life.

What I really need is a woman to tell me what to do and when, but my mom isn't that kind of chick and I haven't met one who will fix me up, so I'm in a kind of limbo in between talent and commitment. Honestly, it's pretty sad but I'm willing to accept that I'm not a person who's happy when controlling my own destiny, so whatever.

>>10470752

Fear Anon back again.
Had a few shots tonight to stave off the gutrot and physical withdrawls. I think i'll be good tomorrow as far as avoiding the fear because I didnt over do it. Sounds fucking stupid, but Fear only hits me if I keep doing it.
I just wanted to have a bit of fun knowing itd give me a buzz while I was playing some games and avoid the gut pain.
Now...not doing it tomorrow is another thing...thats how im fucked...
I need another 3 sober days. I need it. I gotta get out of this shit.

>>10476065
are you me?
23 here, i met one during a manic episode though and she tried to start talking to me again but i had no desire to be even friends with her at the time
but i'm not concerned about never finding one, i drink for other reasons.

my house is haunted, and i live in my home state, the absolute worst state in the united states. I've lived other places and been able to just stop drinking

>>10476114
>my house is haunted
Oldschool /x/ reporting in. HOW haunted? Story time?
Also, what state dude?...everyone hates thieir state and claims its the worst...you know that.

>>10474195
He's a faggot ignore him

>>10474396
You sound like a fucking cunt. I'm right wing as fuck but I don't give a fuck whose a faggot or whose transgender. I can judge but I'm not going to impede on anybody's life for it and I'm sure as not gonna let that interfere with who I befriend and especially not my own brother. If my brother came out as transgender I'd support him and be understanding whilst also asking him questions to try and understand it better. You sound like a shit brother.

>>10474556
>Waàah me me me me me me
Nothing to do with you faggot. It's your bros problem. Support him or forever be a twat. You're one of them people who make shit about you at every possible opportunity.

>>10474396
Sounds like you're using his situation as a scapegoat to justify your relapse. Quit being a fucking patsy. Buy the bottle for him. He's probably dealing with a lot more stress than you are right now.

>>10476139
You are a retard and confirmed for not having a sibling

>>10476150
>>10476150
>I don't agree with you therefore you don't have a sibling!

Absolute state of your brain famm

Just got a job at a pub lads. Are you allowed to drink on the job? Or on your lunch break?

i'm starting to drink too much again, felt drunk at work this morning

>>10476309
i wouldn't survive a month working at a bar

>>10475676
i've fuked my share of hookers but seems like you're addicted to more than booze lad. constantly oaying for sex cant be good for your self esteem? ever done it sober? i tried and cant

>>10476139
right wing and supportive of hypothetical trannie siblings.. wew

>>10474396
dont use it as an excuse to drink mate..

>>10476533
you're paying for sex in some way or another no matter if the girl is a hooker or not
you're almost always paying more than $0.00 in the pursuit of pussy in the form of transportation, food, shelter, entertainment etc. hookers just have the decency to make the transaction simple and up-front

>>10476570
i'm not having a crack at you man.. like i said, i've been there. its very diff tho hooking uo randomly or seeing someone. Sure money is spent but you aren't oaying a set amount for someone to fuck you who 9/10 times doesn't want to in the first place.

I know I'm not posting about my depression and midlife crisis so please forgive me, but what kind of white wine should I use when a recipe calls for it? I've only ever bought cheap spirits so wine shopping is completely alien to me.

>>10476868
>so please forgive me
no

>>10476868
>but what kind of white wine should I use when a recipe calls for it?
just use some kind of cheap dry white wine

>>10476570
>you're paying for sex in some way or another no matter if the girl is a hooker or not
WOW ANON DID YOU COME UP WITH THAT TRUTHBOMB YOURSELF SO WOKE PLEASE TEACH US MORE
Kill yourself.

>>10471923

you can smell me now and like it

>>10476868

>one for the meal
>one for me

I've started doing meth again. I've been up for 2 days. Hell of a drug.

>>10477342
at least you'll save money on toothpaste

>>10476533
That other guy wasn't me. Yeah, I pay sex workers all the time when sober. It hasn't had a negative effect on my self-esteem, actually. If anything it's made me more confident in pursuing women and doing what I'd like. Since I know if I strike out a good fuck is only a phone call away, I take more risky with women and I'm often rewarded.

I'm not really depressed or anything. I just feel bad about drinking so much, since it can't possibly be good. Things could also get worse. .

I have a good job (my own business), finished paying off my house, and a decent car. I have friends. I have family. I'm just not interested in a wife and kids which limits my options for "advancement". It also means I have a large amount of free time, which is spent binging TV shows and seeing sex workers of various types.

The drinking is just very scary and it's even scarier I can't find a reason to stop anymore. Longest I've been sober was 5 months and it didn't really change much. I lost some weight, saw my friends more, saved more money and was more productive, but it certainly wasn't as fun.

Hmm.

i feel sorry for you guys who can't/won't smoke weed instead. i'm coming up to 3 months off booze, been waking and baking every day since stopping. i even had a few drinks a few weeks back and wished i hadn't, because it ruined the cosy weed high.
this is a bit old, but this guy was a cop who hated stoners
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZyAjLkBCWKI
an alcoholic who tried weed/psychedelics, loved them and ditched the sauce immediately, quit being a cop and now works as a weed activist.

>>10477441
I'm sketching out, I hate tehis drug now. wAves of eanxiety

>>10477537
yeah that stuff is fucked. doesn't even make me feel good, just AWAKE as fuck no matter what. i don't like crack or coke either. in fact most drugs are shit.
no access to benzos i assume? it's pretty much the only thing that's gonna help atm

>>10477550
Even so I can't stop doing it. Wtf is wrong with me?

>>10477478
>stop drinking everyday, now smokes everyday first thing

The ideal thing would be moderation in everything

>>10477719
you don't say

>>10477829
I guess of it keeps you from drinking anon, then its good.

>>10477478
Weed doesn't do much for me other than help me sleep, also I hate the smell, doing lsd once a week and ketamine a few times a month helps me reduce my drinking though.
Don't feel like drinking on lsd and going to throw up if I mix alcohol with ketamine, also I've managed to not get addicted to ketamine i think, usually do 2 grams a month, last month didnt have any and only had 1 gram this month.

>>10477931
>doing lsd once a week
i'd be careful desu, i can easily see myself going insane if i used that much. typically psychedelics you'll use once or twice, learn from them then move on

>>10478522
I'm mostly using it that often because I'm still new to it, tried it first time 2 months ago, but yeah I should probably do it less often