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redpill me on american cuisine

hardmode: no meme answers (yes, we know that americans eat burgers, shut the fuck up)

>> No.10301694

you know Epcot in Disney World? think that
>melting pot of all the world's cuisines
you can find pretty much anything here except sheep lung and kinder eggs

>> No.10301696

>>10301672
There is no cuisine. It is just immigrants bringing their food over but making inferior versions of it

>> No.10301700

Don't ever say 'Redpill' again if you want people to think of you as an adult.

Otherwise, the only cuisine in America that matters is Cajun and Creole.

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2iiu5d

>> No.10301701

>>10301672
most of our recipes suck because our food culture is basically whatever farmers could slap together
we've basically got either food from other countries or ethnicities, or just focus on doing the dishes we do have really well. It's going to vary from coast to coast but you're going to run into a lot of stews and sandwiches just with regional ingredients

>> No.10301710

I don't know if you people have Netflix, but you need to watch The Mind of a Chef, but if you want to learn any culture.

>> No.10301730

>>10301672
The difficult thing about American cuisine is that it's basically family favorites from all over Europe. Although this will be an unpopular thing to say on /ck/, slave food provided the foundation for a truly American-based cuisine.

However, what we see after World War 2 is a shift from those traditional Europe dishes to more meat based. Now you have a developed nation with literally more money than they can spend and they want meat. So we develop an entire culture around that and it takes off, snuffing out the vegetable-based diet of the past 400 years.

But one key element always stays the same. We retain that foundation of slave food. Family barbecues become popular as do drive-in barbecues. Soon, Ray Croc would transform the drive-in barbecue into the backbone of the American lunch.

While Europeans would have eventually figured it out (and Native Americans were grilling as well) Americans would have been making boiled steak puddings for decades longer if it hadn't been for the enslaved's taste for charred meat.

>> No.10301748

It's a country with a ton of land, a lot of different people, a lot of different cultures, a lot of different food, on a board with a lot of shit-posters.

Most of what you'll see is from the flood of small-minded zombies from overpopulated and declining urban wastelands. Please ignore the feeding troughs for the damned.

>> No.10301763

>>10301730

You're absolutely not wrong.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=moylLCWwEG8

>> No.10301779

>>10301672
anyone here make good buffalo wings? Why the fuck are they not popular in other parts of the world? They are amazing. Only had them in Buffalo and some bar in Toronto. So. Fucking. Good.

>> No.10301800

>>10301779

Use the other stupid fucking recipes, but mince a jalapeno pepper if you want something great.

>> No.10301809
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>>10301672
B U R G E R S
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>> No.10301813

We take the general concepts of food from other countries and make them better.

>> No.10301817

>>10301800
....what recipe? It's just equal parts franks and butter, with fried wings ya?

>> No.10301826

>>10301694
>and kinder eggs
I saw a Kinder Egg commercial on TV a week ago.

The "No Kinder Eggs in America" meme is officially dead.

>> No.10301828

>All these people saying Amerigano cuisine is nothing but bad ethnic food and cajun
Thats what you fucktards get for shitting on flyovers. Country style cooking is wholly american and fucking amazing.

>> No.10301833

>>10301817

There's so much more to put into that shit. cayenne, ah fuck. I spent 3 days parsing the recipe with ingredients. Let me do it right, and I'll give it to you. I needs mayo.

>> No.10301835

>>10301826
they're kinder joys, not kinder eggs, retard. kinder joys separate the chocolate and toy portions by housing them in different parts of the plastic. it's not a legit kinder egg. it's just nutella with a spoon and a toy.

>> No.10301843

Do you guys bing watch shows?

>> No.10301855

>>10301833
wicked. thanks man.

would I really fuck them over if I baked them?

>> No.10301863

>>10301855

not at all. There's a simple buffalo coating, then there's a dipping sauce.

https://www.allrecipes.com/recipe/166638/baked-buffalo-wings/

Cool your dipping sauce with some mayo or someshit. I'll work that recipe back up.

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>>10301863
seems easy enough. thx pal

>> No.10302018

>>10301696
American pizza is better than Italian pizza and that will never not be true.

>> No.10302091

>>10301672
buckets of hot wings, blue cheese and fries with a side salad

>> No.10302107

>>10301730

You have it the other way around. Slave food is Southern food created by white Southerners and Indians. Fried Chicken originated with Scotch-Irish immigrants and Barbecue was taken from native tradition of cooking meat. Africans only in part contributed to Southern food, particularly in spices, some vegetables like okra, and rice.

>> No.10302180

>>10302018
and they only have maybe 3 or 4 different styles to compete, while we have one for almost every state in the union.

>> No.10302192

>>10301672
It's very regional. Different states might as well be different countries when it comes to food.

>> No.10302202

>>10301672
soft pretzels
cheesesteaks

we take things from other cultures and do them either way better or way worse

>> No.10302204

>>10302018
>American pizza is better than Italian pizza

t. no one ever

>> No.10302228

>>10302202
American creations or changes vary so highly in quality from abominations to putting the original to shame.

>>10302204
For instance most Italian pizzas are a shame.

>> No.10302248

>>10301672

>American food tends to be sweeter than elsewhere. I know it plays into memes around here, but it's true, we throw HFCS in everything. It's what happens when you subsidize corn on the level we do. An exception is starches though. Regular bread isn't sweet here, neither are potato based dishes generally.

>Again, I know it plays into shitty "Do Americans really...?" memes, but portions are large in the US, especially if you go South. Drinks are also very big. Unlike a lot of cultures though, it's not considered rude to leave food on your plate, and it's actually normal to have leftovers boxed up to go at restaurants.

>Americans love cheese. We put it on lots of stuff, but with the exception of cream cheese, it's generally on savory dishes, not sweet. That said, the types of cheese we use are pretty limited, you see a lot of processed cheese foods and firm, salty mild cheeses like cheddar.

>Drinks are generally cold unless it's coffee (and even then, iced coffee is very popular). Nearly everything will come with ice in it by default.

>If you're going to an "ethnic" restaurant in America, just silently add "-American" on the end in your mind, i.e. an Italian place is going to serve Italian-American food, a Mexican place is going to serve Mexican-American food and so on. Pretty much all food served here gets localized.

>> No.10302249

depends on where you are, where the immigrants are from and how recently they came over

I come from a Portuguese area that is all first generation immigrants so the food is the same as in the old country

>> No.10302409

>>10301672
>hard mode: disqualifying any distinctive American foods
That’s fucking stupid.
It’s like asking what’s so great about French cuisine if you disallow any butter, cheese or French cooking methods.

But it’s not just about burgers and BBQ. America’s a huge country and has a number of distinct regional styles that have extensive menus. Some of the most famous regional styles are Coastal Seafood, Cajun and Creole, Deep South, Tex-Mex, and Chinese American, just to name a few.
Here where I am in the Deep South, we have fried chicken and BBQ yes, but also other distinctive dishes like red rice, collard greens, hoecakes, cornbread, biscuits, Low Country Boil, Brunswick stew, liver mush, pecan pie, hummingbird cake, and the list just goes on. And each other regional menu is similarly deep. You could eat a whole week of just regional dishes from each style, not repeat a thing, not eat anything from other regional menus, and you’d enjoy yourself the whole time.
Famous dishes include the aforementioned BBQ pork and fried chicken from the Deep South, Crab cakes from the Atlantic Coast, Blackened Redfish and Red Beans and Rice from the Gulf Coast, Chili Con Carne and BBQ brisket from the Southwest, or Fish tacos and Cobb Salad from the West Coast.

>> No.10302499

>>10302409
another thing is that a lot of traditional recipes and ingredients are still lost or in the process of being rediscovered. there's so much variety and depth that the cuisine doesn't have a clear continuity or easily understood identity/history/tradition.

>> No.10302537

>>10301855
Try J. Kenji Lopez Alt's recipe for oven baked wings. It uses baking powder and the results are great form what I've tried

>> No.10302583

>>10301696
wew this

>> No.10303137

>>10301730
>slave food
because Africans came over knowing how to barbecue

>> No.10303148

>>10303137
they picked it up pretty quickly from natives in the caribbean colonies so w/e

>> No.10303295

>>10301700
Shut up you fag, redpill is a fine word, and Cajun food is a tiny scrap of America cuisines and dishes.

>> No.10303305
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10303305

the pinnacle of american """cuisine'""

>> No.10303309

>>10302409
It's so extensive and regional people can't pin a dozen or so items and say "that's America on a plate". That's when American culture thrives, when it's regionalized. It tends to go to shit when it's nationalized and has to placate to far too many different tastes. This goes for everything, not just food.

>> No.10303311

>>10302018
This nigger never actually went to italy let me tell you that

>> No.10303318

>>10303311
There is no "American" pizza, it doesn't even make sense. Even the most flyover of flyovers has 337 variations in it's town

>> No.10303367

>>10301672
Apple sauce
Apple butter
Bookbinder soup
Breakfast burrito
Brunswick stew
Buffalo burger
Buffalo wing
Bull roast
Clam chowder
Pecan pie
Cheese steak sandwich
Chicken nugget
Chicken parmigiana
Chicken sandwich
Chili
White chocolate
Crab cakes
Coleslaw
Creamed corn
Fajitas
Fried chicken
Grits
Lasagna
Lobster Newberg
Lobster roll
London broil
Macaroni and cheese
Milk shakes
Peanut butter
Peanut butter cookies
Pepperoni
Pulled pork
Pumpkin pie
Steamed clams
Stuffed ham
Bergenost
Colby
Monterey Jack
Swiss cheese
Ambrosia (fruit salad)
Angel food cake
Apple dumpling
Banana split
Bananas Foster
Boston cream pie
Banana pudding

>> No.10303392

>>10303311
fuck your tomato bread. Italian food is the most overrated cuisine on the planet.

>> No.10303416

>>10303367
>Swiss cheese

That's a wee bit silly, ya know.

>> No.10303441 [DELETED] 

[cont]
>life on the frontier is rough, you gotta make do with what you have
>limited equipment, limited resources, dangerous environments, lots of travelling
Some speculate that this contributed to today's fast-food culture in the US, but I think that's far-fetched. Instead, these attitudes are what spawned so many variations of old-world food. American pizza probably started when some Luigi was lacking ingredients and had to experiment and substitute.
tbc

>> No.10303447

>>10303416
It's only called Swiss cheese, just like German chocolate cake, or Australian Shepards.

>> No.10303448

>>10303416
>Swiss cheese is a generic name in North America for several related varieties of cheese, mainly of North American manufacture, which resemble Emmental cheese, a yellow, medium-hard cheese that originated in the area around Emmental, in Switzerland.

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>>10303392
That would be Japanese.

>>10301672
Believe it or not, I actually studied the origins of American cuisine. It's a very long story, so I'm gonna boil it down for you guys:

>initial colonization begins
>settlers from different places flock to the shiny new continent
>huge variety of regional cuisine develops depending on available resources and dominant nationalities
Corn bread being so prevalent in the Southern US is a fine example for the former, as corn was cheaper than wheat down there for a long time. And old habits die hard.

>life on the frontier is rough, you gotta make do with what you have
>limited equipment, limited resources, dangerous environments, lots of travelling
Some speculate that this contributed to today's fast-food culture in the US, but I think that's far-fetched. Instead, these attitudes are what spawned so many variations of old-world food. American pizza probably started when some Luigi was lacking ingredients and had to experiment and substitute.
Native Americans probably had a big role to play as well, as the settlers could copy the natives and improve on that.

>things calm down, people truly settle down
>trade routes and communication channels are established
And here we have the reason why you can go to any US state and find a broad selection of foods from all over the world. Local cuisines mixed with each other and then went global.

But the regional cuisines stayed and are here to stay. So, what can we draw from that?

>While not the most creative of cuisines, the creativity is definitely there.
>American cuisine is a mix of old-world styles, but with drastic changes made, giving it its own identity.
>The simple dishes are a fine example of ingenuity and hardiness. Historically speaking, this simple-but-effective-and-delicious development is similar to German and Polish cuisine.
Hope you learned something!

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>>10303459
Thank you anon

>> No.10303541

>>10303416
>>10303448
The correct name would be "Swiss style cheese then". I've also seen Americans post about "Polish kielbasa" and "German Bratwurst" manufactured in America. The name is very misleading and, to be frank, dishonest.

>> No.10303545

>>10303541
You have Americans whining about cultural appropriation, but then they pull shit like that.

>> No.10303551

>>10303541
lol those sausages have been being made by Polish and German immigrants for the past 200 years. You know, my ancestors who were intelligent enough to leave the european shithole long ago.
PS: our beer is better than yours too.

>> No.10303561

>>10303459
>Some speculate that this contributed to today's fast-food culture
Americans work longer hours and are "rich" enough to afford having meals made for them on a regular basis while the family unit has broken down somewhat

>> No.10303587

>>10303551
That's all nice, but it doesn't change the fact that the way you're naming these products borders on lying.

>> No.10303604

>>10303587
The label doesn't mean that's where it came from but rather what style it is. They're made by the descendents of Polish and German immigrants so no, it's not lying

>> No.10303609

>>10303482
You're welcome.

>> No.10303617

>>10303604
They're made by Mexican illegal immigrants working below minimal wage at food factories. A country's name is a geographic indication. There's a reason why we protect regional produce in the EU.

>> No.10303623

>>10301835
The chocolate tastes like a softer kinder bar, which is pretty cool. The toys suck more than a normal kinder egg.

>> No.10303631

>>10303617
You know what the fuck I meant, stop trying to split hairs. The EU isn't entirely made up of the descendents of immigrants like the US so that's a retarded comparison

>> No.10303636

>>10303631
You could just name it, you know, "x style sausage" and everybody would be happy.
How's that wall coming along?

>> No.10303648

>>10303636
Because most people aren't autistic enough to not get that from the packaging and need selective labeling

I don't know I'm not a Trumptard

>> No.10303651

>>10303648
>Trumptard
I agreed with you up to there, go back to Facebook with that boomer normie tier insult.

>> No.10303828

>>10301696
>be from whatever shithole country
>move to America
>forget how to make shithole country food upon arriving
lmao

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>>10303636

>> No.10304008

>>10303541
No dishonest, practical.
Emmentaler is a legally protected appellation, so Americans had to make do with describing it how they could, and the name stuck.

>> No.10304014

>>10303631
Stop trying to pretend you’re German, Mohammed.
You’re not fooling anyone.

>> No.10304040

>>10301694
I saw kinder eggs at the store yesterday ya dingus

>> No.10304048

>>10301672
No such thing.
The USA us a living celebration of diversity.
We have elements of all cultures, black, Mexican, Islamic and Jewish for example.
It's I possible to sum up.

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>>10301672
Italian-American food is basically Campagnian food with fewer vegetables (which were harder to come by in NYC) fewer varieties of cheese (because imports were expensive) and a lot more meat (because meat was cheaper in America). The meatballs in spaghetti and meatballs for instance are huge compared to their mother dish

>> No.10304295

>>10304048
Sure there is, it’s just not nearly as publicized as all of the European-derived dishes.
Bison, elk, raccoon, opossum, prairie chicken, turkey, whitetailed deer and all sorts of native fish dishes are unquestionably American, as are corn, squash, beans, potatoes, pawpaws, pecans, persimmons, wild rice, bay leaves, blue crabs, lobster, crayfish, tomatoes, hot peppers and blueberries.

>> No.10304301

>>10304295
Wanna try that

>> No.10304490
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>> No.10304528

>>10304490
That actually tastes good. I highly recommend it.
>that first salty /sip/

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10304544

Real "American" cuisine is what Native Americans made. Everything else is what immagrants brought with them.

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>>10304544
>Corn/maize
>Succotash
>Longpig
>Johnny Cakes

>> No.10304564

this video makes me want to try american cuisine
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWKOUxF-Dso

>> No.10304579

>>10304544
>does this blanket smell like smallpox?

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>>10304544
"Native" Americans are immigrants themselves. They just came earlier.

>> No.10304611

>>10304544
Europe is no longer allowed to use tomatoes or potatoes, sorry guys

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>>10304564
honestly the south is the only region worth checking out as far as a culinary destination goes

>> No.10304623

>>10304596
Don't know why but kind of want

>> No.10304626

Greek salad
German chocolate cake
English muffins
french dipped sandwich
cobb salad

America invents everything good.

>> No.10304630

>>10302248
>Regular bread isn't sweet here
wat

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>>10304596
>that image
Unless he shot someone with it, it looks like some jackass having way too much fun with his shotgun. Can you imagine going to the firing range with something like this?

>> No.10304651

>>10304564
jesus christ it's just smoked meat
dumb gooks.

>> No.10304745

>>10304651
they don't really do that in korea though

>> No.10304760

You fucking morons ruined this thread when you ignored Willie Maes.

You're all fast food human soylent green.

You honest to god don't know how fucking uninformed you are every single day.

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>>10301672
Everything is bigger in America.
Except beers!

>> No.10304869

>>10304596
Who lived on that land before native americans?

>> No.10304977

>>10304869
pigeons and bison

>> No.10305024

>>10304869
The Great White Buffalo and Crow, the Trickster

>> No.10305031

>>10304869
>native americans?
no such thing.

>> No.10305061

>>10304869
>>10305031
You guys didn't hear? The Ojibwe tribe considers that term highly racist. They're "northern indigenous-Americans" if I remember properly.

Which is why I insist on being refereed to a "non-indigenous Alpine American"

>> No.10305081

>>10304977
Not human
inb4
>injens arent either

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>>10305024
>the Trickster
You know of Zales?

>> No.10305261

>>10305081
who lived on europe before europeans?
>pigs, elk
>umm those are not human sweetie ;)

and now you are aware of how retarded this argument is

>> No.10305842

>>10305261
Actually, most modern Europeans (except for Basques) were immigrants as well. It was just a longer time ago, and killing the existing natives off is more tolerated when it’s your tribe doing the killing.

>> No.10305852

>>10301672
>no meme answers
Then don't ask meme questions, you fucking idiot.

>> No.10305925

>>10304616
Thats what my southern roomate thinks, but he is very very wrong.

The south cant cook to save their lives.

>> No.10305977

>>10305925
It's primarily heavy black food made with fatty portions of hogs or chicken and fish fried in lard. Most of the whites in the south accepted their subjugation by the small percentage of plantation owners 'cause of the propaganda preached that, "at least you ain't a nigger," much like the situation today across the country.

>> No.10306017 [DELETED] 

>>10301828
Some faggot in class said people in Italy don't eat Italian beef sandwiches.

Is this true?

>> No.10306023

Some faggot in class said people in Italy don't eat Italian beef sandwiches.

Is this true?

>> No.10306047

>>10304630
Bread in China tends to be outright sweet pastry type stuff rather than the whole savory and yeasty thing American bread does. I was mostly going off of differences my Chinese immigrant friends have pointed out to me.

>> No.10306061

>>10306047
American bread is like cake compared to standard European or even Canadian breads

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10306079

Reminder that American cheese is actually a blend of Colby and Cheddar and can't legally be called cheese due to it being a blend.

What foreigners think of as "American cheese" is actually just Kraft singles and no one over the age of 9 likes them.

>> No.10306085

>>10306061
>Buys the most generic, bleached sliced bread in a supermarket
>Bitches that it's shitty and sweet
When will this stupid meme end?

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>>10302018
american "pizza"

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>>10306079
Except people do.
Especially in preparations that require melted cheese because it melts so well.

>> No.10306173

>>10306090
>t, retarded troll

>> No.10306239

>>10304616
the West has solid food, good wine and by far the best beer in the United States.

North Carolina is catching up regarding the beer.

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FREEDOM
FRIES

>> No.10306260

>>10302248
Who are you quoting?

>> No.10306298

>>10301672
>redpill

To think I was going to answer your question, but I can't take seriously plebbitors who use that.

>> No.10306301

>>10306298
>redditor
Hello newfag

>> No.10306304

>>10301835

My local Safeway has Kinder Surprise eggs.

>> No.10306328

>>10306301
>2016 election comes around
>plebbitors take over 4chan
>redpill me on x redpill me on y XD XD XD

Over obsessing and autistically reposting "memes" like "redpill" is literally the most reddit thing a person can do. That's why the frog image is the most plebbit meme to date.

>> No.10306381

>>10306304
They do not.

>> No.10306388

>>10306381
This. Kinder eggs are still illegal in the US

>> No.10306398

most restaurants hire mexicans to do their prep and line cooking, for wages that aren't satisfactory, so you get subpar food usually...unless you go to much higher end restaurants. in general most mexicans don't care about quality and just want to get that sweet paycheck.

also, not enough emphasis on fresh ingredients, fresh produce. spices and butter is more expensive in US but lower quality.

you're going to have to pay at least $50-$200 per bill just to get that level of good quality a decent cook can make at home.

i never eat out anymore and avoid restaurants like the plague. i've also worked in a "gastropub" before so i know what i'm talking about. it's a hit or miss. you really do have to do a test visit and if that pans out go balls out on the 2nd visit. there are some mid-to-high end places that still do a good job.

>> No.10306399

>>10306328
Advanced bait, for any actual newfag scum itc red pill has been said here for literally a decade. It's only after the 2016 election that the "fuk u go back 2 pol" bait has been posted to literally any post on 4chan started. >>10306328

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>>10306328
Dude, redpill me on the ol' muh sekret klub 4chan when men were trannny fappers and trannys were alluring! Damn tarnation I miss those days.

>> No.10306413

>>10306400
Fuck off, faggot. It doesn't have to be a secret club for people to complain about people shitting the place up.

>> No.10306623

>>10304869
Other native americans that the later native americans raped and killed

>> No.10306761

>>10306623
Who do you think I'm talking about? They wouldn't be called native if they weren't the first.

>> No.10307342

mostly derived from rural survival foods, and rural farm patterns: the big carby breakfast with bacon and eggs, thats farm food. the other big influences are other ethnicities: native am, mex, german, polish, italian, irish, jewish. we are a mixing pot. we dont really have a haute cuisine like france, italy, persia, india, china. unfortunately, our truly unique cuisines are limited: new orleans/cajun, and soul food. soul food is pure poverty food, and doesnt adapt that well, as its very narrow in range. the other unique cuisine would be barbecue, which is really a dish. just some thoughts. probably all wrong.

>> No.10307682

>>10304616
This map mixes up kansas and nebraska

>> No.10307833

>>10304869
Nords unironically.

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>>10301809
oddly heartwarming. I had a big, dopey smile on by the end.

>> No.10307838

>>10306388
They're probably those kinder joy things, not regular kinder eggs.

>> No.10308070

>>10301672
Think regional

>> No.10308090

>>10301700
>If you say repill you're not some milennial soyboy like me

>> No.10308101

>>10301710
Also this

>> No.10308103

>>10302018
t. Fat yank who has never been to Italy.

>> No.10308110

>>10303367
>almost alphabetical list gone to shit
If you’re doing something, do it right, you lazy spunkbubble

>> No.10308114

>>10301730
This

>>10303137
>slavery didnt last 400 years
>the first slaves and the last slaves were literally identical
Stop triggering yourself at the idea that a black person may have contributed literally anything to American history or culture.

>>10301696
>inferior versions of it
This is what every contrarian American kid who wants to live abroad or post-first generation immigrant child really wants to believe.

>> No.10308336

>>10301700
Ahh, Cajun, the classic American cuisine created by the meeting of the Napolenoic French and Canadian immigrants from Acadia.

>> No.10308353

>>10301835
Thanks for being a definitive authority on something that only eighth-graders cared about a decade ago.

>> No.10308391

>>10301672
I've heard americans eat cheese hamburgers every day

>> No.10308428
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>>10308336
Wow, Americans are made up of immigrants from all over the world? Didn't know that. Quite enlightening!

>> No.10308587

Simple, what is famous from there is a copy or come from other countries like Germany and Italia.

What is real Cousine is mostly lard tier food, melted cheese, too much meat, too much salt and sugar.

Only Americans think they have something special.

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>>10308587
where do you live? I'd like to say a thing or two about your country.

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>>10308587
>>10308625
>no reply

yeah that's what I thought, coward. Enjoy your shit cuisine!

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>>10308771
Germany, in a posh town with many Michelin starred restaurants. Family is Italian and Brazilian, great countries for food also. Questions?

>> No.10309597

>>10306388
You fags do not know what you are talking about. They redesigned the eggs so they could be sold here again. I have seen them everywhere now

>> No.10309670

>>10309597
Again, those are Kinder Joy, not Kinder Surprise.

>> No.10309703

>>10301809
Now instead of cooking my lunch like a gud boi I have to get a burger.

>> No.10309800

>>10301730
>Africans had fire
Kek, dream on

>> No.10309823

>>10301813
>better
I think you mean you add HFCS and fat, which is objectively not better, you greedy cunt.

>> No.10309850

>>10309597
Kinder JOY != Kinder Surprise
How are you so dumb that this eludes you? Kinder eggs have a hard shell exterior, the kinder joys are basically custard with little ferrero balls in it with the toy in a separate container so braindead American kids and adults like you don't choke on them

>> No.10309861

>>10301672
The specialty really depends where in America like north like Massachusetts and Maine is like fish and lobster

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>>10309100
Germany: food so plain and bland that its inhabitants are forbidden from making fun of British cuisine.

Italy: Doesn't know how to make food outside the usual tricolor (Red Green White) pasta dishes. Very simple and 2-dimensional cuisine compared to French

Brazil: I don't know much about its cuisine besides the Monkey soup meme. Pass.

Am I generalizing too much about your country's cuisine? Am I regurgitating too many stereotypes? Well, you know nothing but stereotypes about American cuisine as well. I'm just doing the same thing you are doing.

>We have lots of Michelin starred restaurants
And any large American cities don't? Those restaurants are probably fusion cuisine too, few of them truly German food.

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>>10309100
>Family is Italian and Brazilian
What are you doing in Germany?

>> No.10309936

>>10306301
silly me, I forgot that 4chan in 2018 is 95% reddittors

>> No.10309956

>>10309100
>Italian and Brazilian

LA CREATURA...

>> No.10309969

>>10301672
Meatloaf, sloppy Joe's, Salisbury steak. That's it. Fuck off America worst country on this planet.

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>>10309896
>I don't know much about its cuisine besides the Monkey soup meme. Pass

Nobody knows anything about Brazilian cuisine because it is so unremarkable.

>> No.10309984

>>10301833
Franks IS cayenne. Supplementing pure cayenne with more cayenne. Lel. Tastelet.

>> No.10309987

>>10309915
Uma-mia delicicious-cia macacogool

>> No.10309990

>>10309969
If you hate America so much you better leave this American website

>> No.10309997

>>10309990
Nah this a Nippon site now. You Americans aren't so quick. Maybe have another burger.

>> No.10310000

>>10301672
Our cuisine is that we spend the least amount of our income, eat the most calories, and do it in less time than every other country in the world.

That's a rather impressive combo to have. Most fags on here will look at that as a bad thing. I take it as a mark of pride. Have fun spending 25% of your waking hours and income on your food poorshits

>> No.10310004

>>10309915
A large population of BRs are Germans, dumb American poster

>> No.10310008

are pot pies american?

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>>10309997
Go back to your /int/ containment board where you can speak your irrelevant and useless language.

All non-Americans in this thread learned English to do business and talk with Americans. That's how relevant and important we are. Your country is not. Your comments are full of jealousy.

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>>10310004
Until he tells me that he's a teuto brasileiro, he's just another Brazilian monkey. Stop white-knighting for him.

And yes, i know that Brazil has a significant German population. I bet you thought you were special and smart for knowing that Brazil has lots of German people. Lol.

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>>10306090

>> No.10310051

>>10310004
That's what happens when your family escapes Europe so they don't have to pay for their war crimes.

>> No.10310056

>>10310018
Yes popularity, economic dominance and military prowess are the best ways to judge a country. It's worked so well. We're in such an advantaged position right now. Generations to come will look back upon American influence during the industrial revolution and think to themselves. "Way to take care of our only resource, thanks to America for leading the way, the way to perpetuity."

>> No.10310088

>>10310056
>Thanks for taking the reigns and leading the world to unknown growth and advancement in the last 4 generations while stabilizing it in an era of dangerous technological adolescence
You're welcome

>> No.10310099

>>10310018
This post basically sums up how pathetic America haters are in 4chan

>> No.10310116

>>10310088
Yes thanks for ignoring the scientific community and outright circumventing them for the last 70 years. Oh let's not forget about expanding your oil interests while placing in operatives to destabilize valued regions.

>> No.10310130

>>10310018
>America is the only English-speaking country

We come here on a Japanese board to discuss good food, which America has none of. You are irrelevant on this board. Now sit your lard ass down.

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>>10310116
>Yes thanks for ignoring the scientific community
We make up the largest portion of the scientific community. How many things did your tiny country produce, buddy?

>Muh oil
Everyone needs oil. It's a strategic resource. I bet you still pay a ton for oil because your country don't have the power to demand anything. Silly cuckold country you live in.

America also leads in alternative energy technology. We win in everything, it seems: Get all the oil and green energy at the same time. Man it feels so great to be #1

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>ITT

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>>10310130
Who learns English to talk to Australians? America is the world's largest and most important economy.

>we're here to discuss good food, which America has none of
It's a large country buddy, it has both the best and worst of foods. People from all over the world immigrated here and cooked shit. Mad things happen. We basically have everything.

Meanwhile your tiny country's cuisine is nothing but a bland monolith. A one-trick pony. Fucking loser.

>> No.10310189

>>10310142
>We make up the largest portion of the scientific community.

What's your point? That's a minute percentage of the electorate most of which is brain dead like you.

>knows about problem
>actively pursuits worst outcome
To be American, that red white and blue.

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>>10310189
>Continuing to make dumb generalizations
damn son

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>>10310189
We need fossil fuels to get things done. Unlike your tiny and irrelevant country, we have things to power up and produce. Like China, America needs cheap and efficient fossil fuels to keep the world's economy spinning. Keep crying while the adults get things done

Until green energy is efficient enough, fossil fuels are here to stay. The reason why America bailed out of the Paris agreement was because China was not in it as well.

>> No.10310251

>>10310229
Yeah but China has a small share of the responsibility compared to EU and USA. The US still has one of the highest emissions per capita. Not very compelling reasons to opt out. Since then temperatures have risen considerably. Way to lead the world.

>> No.10310255

>>10310229
Some clarifications: when I say "China was not in it," China did sign the Climate Agreement with America, but it was not following the rules and nobody was enforcing the terms of the agreement. Meanwhile, America was generally willing to follow the agreement. When China and India was doing whatever the hell it wanted for the economy, America said fuck it and left.

>> No.10310261

>>10310229
>Until green energy is efficient enough, fossil fuels are here to stay.

and our pres is gonna do everything in his power to make sure that process takes as long as possible.

>> No.10310265

>>10310251
So China and India gets to do whatever the fuck it wants while the West have to castrate their own economies?

>> No.10310266

>>10310162
>white people excel at taking lives, land and culture
>proceeds to provoke white people
jamal, you really need to think things through.

>> No.10310267

>>10310265

so the US gets to do whatever the fuck it wants just because China/India do, and as a result we castrate the world for future generations?

>> No.10310278

>>10310265
Until China and India have contributed enough to the problem to merit imposed regulations, yes. They're going through a developmental phase. Much like how the US/EU did which is what got the climate to where it is now. The majority of emissions are the responsibility of the EU/US. They all knew what could happen since the London Smog in the 50's.

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>>10310267
Did you forget that America signed the climate agreement? We all want a better environment.

The main complaint for withdrawing was that nobody was actually enforcing the terms of the agreement, and China and India is not even trying to get cleaner emissions. Actually enforce the terms of the agreement or America stays the fuck out. We have too much dignity to do otherwise, while Europeans just eat shit submissively from other nations.

>> No.10310315

>>10310289
Dignity? You must mean profitability.

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>>10310315
Both.

America needs cheap and plentiful energy to power its economy. Smaller Euro countries don't so of course they have the luxury to worry about clean air.

>> No.10310329

>>10310174
>his cuisine isn't even part of the worlds intangible culture heritage ™
l m a o

>> No.10310331

>>10309997
5ch is owned by an American now, is it an American site?

>> No.10310336

>>10310267
There's so many fucking fallacies with global warming. It's mostly just a cashgrab by opportunistic powers that see a means to browbeat naive dumbasses into surrendering their wallet and freedoms. The dumbest of all is the assumption that it's a bad thing without any positives. The earth has greened up recently. Cold is a much bigger threat to the globes health than warmth.

Taking part in any onerous, coercive bullshit environmental initiative is pointless economic suicide

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/05/05/no-one-ever-says-it-but-in-many-ways-global-warming-will-be-a-go/amp/

Yeah let me castrate the worlds biggest economy over misleading reporting that won't actually fix a problem that doesn't exist. Arguably Trump's best move since getting into office is pulling out of that shitshow

>> No.10310349

>>10310325
Also, America is also a massive producer of fossil fuels. The business employs a huge amount of people and provides revenue to the country, while many European nations are dry of oil.

It might be nice to get rid of fossil fuel, but in America it's a huge employment issue so we're more sensitive. It's not that simple. Europeans want harder regulations for fossil fuels because it has much less to lose.

>> No.10310359

>>10310315
the green movement is spear headed by large corporations seeking to erect a massive barrier of entry from competition. Big business loves big regulation

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>>10310329
>more insignificant measures of achievement
shh faggot

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>>10310360
>h-ha who cares about cooking here amirite

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>>10310364
>posting non-responses
American cuisine is too large and diverse to even propose to UNESCO. Also I don't know how my response said anything about "not caring about cooking."

Now keep posting brainlet wojaks like it means something

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>>10306399
>>10306400
No, it wasn't. You're wrong.

>> No.10310413

>>10310395
Every single countrys cooking is large and diverse you mong. It's in no way unique to america.

>> No.10310425

>>10310336


>>10310359
hello polledit I mean... UHURU!

>> No.10310429

Plenty of american food is tasty and good.
Although as a nation, they are confused and entirely wrong about bacon.

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>>10310413
Last time I checked there aren't that many cuisines which span throughout an entire continent, from one ocean to another. Also I am not aware of any other cuisine that is mostly made by immigrants from 100+ cultures.

Many other cuisines are one-trick ponies

>> No.10310436

>>10310434
>what is canada: the post

>> No.10310447

>>10310436
Any more? I think it's a fairly short list.

Also, Canada has far less ethnic diversity than America. Only major groups are Anglos, French, Pajeets and Chinks.

>> No.10310456

>>10310436
Also you said here >>10310413
"every single countrys cooking is large and diverse."

I beg to differ. How diverse is Belgian cooking compared to American?

>> No.10310469

>>10310434
>there aren't that many cuisines which span throughout an entire continent
That's not relevant (and not even unique, there's Australia, China, Russia, Indonesia, Brasil, Canada, etc), because
>Also I am not aware of any other cuisine that is mostly made by immigrants from 100+ cultures.
like this, you get more diverse and varied food from borders with other countries. What makes you think russian potato recipes change because they're cooked over a 500 miles long territory? They change when they're cooked by many different people with different ideas.

>Many other cuisines are one-trick ponies
that's just plain retarded.

>Many other cuisines are one-trick ponies
Of course, I didn't want to say non-countries are going to be in the same category as regular ones.

>> No.10310476

>>10310469
eh, the second >Many other cuisines are one-trick ponies
was supposed to quote
>How diverse is Belgian cooking compared to American?

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>>10310469
>>10310476
There are few other nations where people from all over the world immigrated to a single nation. It's not the same as sharing borders with countries which will inevitably be in the similar cuisine family.

>Of course, I didn't want to say non-countries are going to be in the same category as regular ones.
At least we both agree that Belgium is a non-country :)

>> No.10310517

where do you think corn came from

>> No.10310518

>>10310494
>There are few other nations where people from all over the world immigrated to a single nation.
Mostly europeans. And we travelled a lot in our own continent too, there's not much in america that isn't also in germany, the uk, france, etc.
> It's not the same as sharing borders with countries which will inevitably be in the similar cuisine family.
Yes, because in america they melted together. In europe they remained their own original culture. There are much more differences that way.

>> No.10310557

>>10310518
>Mostly europeans.
Aren't you aware of the 56% meme? Most of our immigrants are non-Whites now.

>Yes, because in america they melted together. In europe they remained their own original culture. There are much more differences that way.
Hmm interesting interpretation but I will still kinda disagree. The old European immigrants melted in (I would argue there are still distinct regional differences), but immigrants from other areas definitely didn't as much.

>>10310517
from my nuts

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>>10310029
Please go back to /pol fedora man

>> No.10310885

>>10309973
Yea sure, Americans see memes and believe in all. This is why the world hate you all uncultured swines

http://www.oliviascuisine.com/authentic-brazilian-recipes/

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>>10309956

>> No.10310905

>ctrl+f
>No mention of scrapple
HOLEE SHIT JAY
>Scrapple, also known by the Pennsylvania Dutch name Pannhaas or "pan rabbit", is traditionally a mush of pork scraps and trimmings combined with cornmeal and wheat flour, often buckwheat flour, and spices.
Fry that shit up, put it on some grits with butter, salt and pepper, crumbled bacon bits, and BAM. Best fucking breakfast, best served with a big mug of straight-up black coffee.

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>>10310863
>gets destroyed
>has nothing but meme responses
fucking yawn

wait, are you this guy too? >>10310885
Looks like I caught a live monkey!

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>>10310885
After all my time in /ck/, I've read about many obscure cuisines, but I never heard anything about Brazilian besides the monkey soup. Shows how nobody cares about Brazilian cuisine even if it's a large country.

Portuguese is much better anyways.

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>>10310935
I forgot about this too >>10310903

BR boy so triggered that he posts 3 times in a row

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>>10310935
>destroyed

The state of 4chan

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>>10310972
>Still basing yourself in memes and using /ck as reference

I can't even...

>> No.10311002

>>10310986
Well it's a much fresher word than "rekt"

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>>10311000
/ck/ is a fairly good index of a cuisine's popularity. The more people talk about it, the better.

Literally nobody talks about Brazilian food. Not once besides the monkey meme. Even Mongolian gets more discussion. It's pathetic if you ask me.

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>>10311017
>Defending a food related sub channel in an anime forum as a reference

Yea, like the discussions about fast food and etc is pretty high level food discussion. And if we don't talk about a certain cuisine then = shit

L
E
L E L

>> No.10311050

>>10310336
>literally 99% of the worlds scientists accept human influenced global warming as a given and models demonstrate enormous repercussions including a huge increase in shitskin refugees in the relatively short term, the US midwest a literal Sudan desert in the slightly longer term.
>climate change models developed 30 years ago when the software was in it's infancy are proven correct with current data
>climate change is a hoax perpetrated by muh joos and chinks
Sorry, not buying your fake news fairy tale brought to us by the drumpf-koch brother cabal. Go swill a gallon of fracked water to mitigate your fetanyl w/d symptoms. Highly recommend Canada build a wall now to prevent the 56%er americucks from crossing when the US is a barren Sahara desert.

>> No.10311055

fuck man, you americans sure are stupid. There has never been a meatball in pasta plate in italy, EVER. enjoy your "baloney" and pasta "alfredo". fucking cuck

>> No.10311071

>>10311044
>t. the government can't be trusted, but only the government can protect me!

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>>10311044
Okay Brazil monkey there are many fast food threads but in the ethnic food threads, there still are no discussion of Monkey food.

Literally no major Youtube food channels and bloggers cover Brazil. I feel bad for Brazil; it's even more brown than 56% America, and its Whites are filthy Brown low IQ meds. A cursed nation, really

>> No.10311080

>>10311073
>pizza shopped into crib
>not them tucking it in with a paper towel
You had one job!

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>>10311055
wow thank you for pointing that out; our dish was almost RUINED before you corrected us!

You must feel so smart right now!

>> No.10311098

>>10311080
It's real

>> No.10311127

>yurocucks

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>>10311073
>lacking arguments
>resort to racism and made up facts

Not surprised why Trump won

>> No.10311219

>>10311201
Give me a better index of cuisine popularity then you spastic.

It wouldn't matter anyways, because Brazil food is unrecognized in many places.

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>>10311219
>many places

Like where?

Just try, look the link I sent. Stop shit posting and you will see a great and diverse world outside your trailer park.

>> No.10311275

>>10311264
Fine whatever you win. I have to go to sleep anyways for tomorrow

>> No.10311292

>>10311264
the liberal version of that cartoon just has everything reversed, where you think all that awful shit about where you already live

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>>10311275
Sleep tight anon, no hard feelings

>> No.10311305

>>10311296
<3

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>>10311292
If it is not nationalism is then Liberal?

World is not only made of binary choices, not talking about genders here which we can agree there is only 2.

>> No.10311331

>>10311201
I thought he won because of the electoral college, though technically he won the popular vote too. Illegals and dead people shouldn't count despite admitted Demogoon rigging.

>> No.10311363

>>10311331
Hey, it's democracy. If he won fair and square we have to live with it even if you don't like him

>> No.10311380

>>10311309
It works as a catch all phrase for the political left in the western world especially the US, I know it is technically not correct, but the people who see the world that way don't have coherent or definable beliefs most of the time anyway. I could have said "international marxist conspirator".

I can't think of any way to steer this back to food

>> No.10311388

>>10311363
>doesn't know the electoral college exists

The USA is a republic, not a democracy.

>> No.10311418

>>10311388
Democratic-Republic.

>> No.10311444

>>10311388
Voting = Democracy
People are sovereign = Republic

>> No.10311455
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>>10311380
>I can't think of any way to steer this back to food
I can.

This is your typical California liberal's idea of pizza. Northern California should secede, and southern California should be considered a territory with its right to vote revoked.

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>>10303305

fucking Sloppy Joes are tasty

>> No.10311491

>>10311455
That looks like good pizza to me.

>> No.10311492

>>10311455
Too much parsley imo but honestly I think you can do worse, even remaining in the arena of weird shit liberals eat

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As an American I feel embarrassed for the tourists who come here and realize that 90% of our food scene is terrible. In other countries every cafe on the street could be a hidden gem, but we don't have such a high ratio of good places. Even our fast food is inferior. When foreigners go back to their country they tell their friends about how our food has too much sugar, how the servings are so huge, how we only eat beef and potatoes, etc. I knew Hong Kong exchange students who basically starved themselves because they hated our food so much.