/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>10200454
If you started this thread for a fight, you're off to a poor start. 120 minute is a good beer in general, though a poor example of an IPA becaus the high ABV and strong malt smother the hop character. It would've been more honest to label it as a barleywine/strong ale.

>"the perfect beer doesn't exi-"

>>10200454
>>10200695
I hated 120 minute. It was sickeningly sweet yet somehow still had some bitterness to it. Just a mess of a beer imo.
That barrel aged Rasputin is a 10/10 beer though

>>10200695
I'd say it's more an IPA on a technicality. Besides, the hop notes are much more persistent in there, I think, than a strong ale, and contribute to the sweetness same as the alcohol. There's more hop flavor to this than bitterness, but that's just what I'm getting from it.

>>10200804
Coors tastes like it belongs in a green bottle.

>>10200818
Have you had the bourbon barrel aged, yellow label? If so, what are the differences?

>>10200454
Just bought this last week. Don't know what to expect.

>>10200804
I didn't understand perfection until I had a coors fatboy from an icebox in colorado in some saloon lookin place with several feet of snow outside. Nearly came from the first sip.

It's my go to comfy beer for when it's cold out. Top tier when paired with greasy barfood/wings

>>10201348
What style is it?

Posted this in the last thread but drinking more of it and really liking it. Best rum flavor I have ever gotten in a beer

>>10200454
>What are the benefits of aging this
Its basically a barleywine, so it should age well

Who else thinks hazy beer is just poorly brewed bullshit?

>>10202352
its not, its actually relatively hard to package very hazy beers and get them to stay that way. Thats why most of the most highly regarded NEIPAs are from brewers with hype machines behind them that sell like the day after it is canned with strict limits

also, filtering in general is good for shelf life but bad for flavor when fresh

>>10202386
>Filtering to reduce haze

Fucking extract kit memebrewer. You do proper protein rests and cold crash to remove haze. I never filter and never have haze.

>>10202352
I love hazy beer. Unless it's a wheat, which I don't like.

>>10200454
I was going to start my own thread to start a fight, but seeing as this thread is here...

How far off base would I be if I brewed a Maibock-like ale, and aged 6-12 pints of it until October for something of a Festbock Kolsch for metric thanksgiving/Octoberfest pre-drinks with two or three other basement brewers?

Should I just say fuck it and drink it all in April/May when it's rounded itself off?

>>10202403
I'm referring to the macro brewers.

>>10200454
It looks like it's on the lees, so it should round out any harsh flavours, and make the hops a bit less better (as long as you age it in a cool, dark place... eventually it will taste soapy or skunky if you age it warm or in the light).

>>10202403
The fuck extract kit homebrewer filters their beer? This is an absurd misinterpretation

am i gay for liking this?

>>10202562
The same-sex sex is what defines it, but this is probably a symptom.

Gonna walk to a nearby bar tapping a keg of this soon

>>10201017
Couldn't tell ya. I had barrel aged Rasputin on tap at a local place. Didn't say anything about it being a specific batch if I remember right

>>10202810
I want this so fucking badly. When's the next batch coming out? Not sure if the stores around me carry it.

How do I learn to like beers that aren't IPAs?

>>10203644
What do you not like about beers that aren't IPAs?

60 and 90 minute are among my favorite beers but 120 is one of the worst pieces of shit I've ever tasted. Incredibly overrated and overpriced. It's novelty of being super high percentage wears thin quickly. And yes, I did age it. About 2 years. 2 fucking years I waited to drink this shit.

>>10203652
Either too bland or too sweet. Also, Lagers/Pilsners have a flavor in them that I can never pin down, but it always rubs me the wrong way. I used to drink them all the time, but after I started liking IPAs, I started noticing the flavor and I've never been able to go back.

I also like darker beers, but the ones I like, I feel like I can only drink once in a while because they are so rich.

Pretty new to beer. /ck/'s thoughts on pic related?

>>10203644
Try some specialty hopped lagers. They're all over the place

>"why yes I do enjoy IPAs"

>>10203344
I don't know, maybe years, but I just had 3 full pours of it and spent quite a bit more than I expected

>>10203344
CBS is the most overrated shit ever

>>10204190
eh, it pretty good

>>10204244
tastes exactly like KBS

>>10200454
>But given the means of production.
Is all of your life based on perceived efficiency? You have limited knowledge of the inner workings of that brewery. Your claim is as preposterous as you are.

>>10204257
thats not exactly a bad thing. but I disagree, was significant maple character

>>10204278
>was significant maple character
there was literally none

>>10200454
>Dogfish
Enjoy your saliva beer.

>>10202810
Had some last night. KBS too. The joys of living a few miles from founders.

>>10200454
sceptics

>>10204390
>Known spit beer,
>Skeptics.
>Can't even spell skeptics right.
Back to facebook/reddit/wherever your dumbass came from.

>>10204301
Well the first time I had it I thought it was really good, but less maple than I was hoping, but I had a bunch more today and it was rather mapley

>>10204314
The chicha they made? So what?

>>10202326
"Quadrupel" IPA with Raspberry

>>10204265
All I'm saying is the work gone into the beer, plus the ingredients, the price seems reasonable. I thought it was delicious despite that. Besides, I was reluctant in the beginning because I'm usually contrary.

>>10202562
what's this stuff actually taste like, i've always been too scared to buy it. it's not cider, right? it's like apple-y beer? sounds disgusting. why not just buy cider or beer

>>10203644
if you like coffee try some founders stouts

>>10203777
This is a good beer, same goes for Budweiser Budvar. It is a drinking beer though, dont expect anything to fancy.

I have around 15L of Pilsner that is carbonating, which I made with yeast from my workplace (work at the storage section of my local brewery). The yeast contains alot of ester, which gives the beer a fruity flavour.

I also have around 20 L of Bayer that is fermenting. I am very excited to see how it turns out, we managed to keep the temperature stable while meshing. I think I will try to make a 10 L of stout this weekend, and let it ferment for 4-6 weeks before I let it carbonate until fall.

>>10200454
>hairsplitters can suck my cock.
But it's not hair splitting.
Whatever. It's a well respected beer. I haven't tried it in over... 10 years (more) but I remember it being NOT an IPA.
Enjoying pic related. For a couple years now. Price just went up to $11/6pack at the 7-11. Sucks.
I worked at a place that got a corny of their fresh hop a couple years ago. Holy shit...

>>10203777
"It tastes a lot like Budweiser but like not shitty and actually good" to quote my friend's girlfriend

>>10203987
>"IPAs are overrated garbage"

>>10203987
Someone actually took the time to make that image.

>>10202810
got my hands on some KBS recently, and I don't understand all the ruckus about it
yes it's good, but it's nothing worth all the hype it gets compared to other imperial stouts that are just as good

>>10206494
It's like hopslam. At the time of it's initial release it was a big deal and one of the few really big barrel aged stouts around. Now everyone makes them, but people still believe in the hype.
Apple brandy noir from prairie is the only stout I'll actively seek out when it's released

>>10206639
this looks nice, I never had any brandy barrel aged stouts before
since I live in France, there are more wine barrel aged beers available than brandy barrel aged ones

>>10202810
If its more than $0.02 a milliliter its not worth it.

On the off chance that any of you live in or know London pretty well, does anyone know of any good shop for harder to find/craft beers? Ordering online is all well and good most of the time, but when I don't want to wait or want to avoid delivery costs a shop would be useful.

>buying IPAs that have been on the shelf longer than a month since their production date
>buying IPAs that have been shipped halfway across the country in questionable thermal conditions instead of buying it local to ensure quality aroma and taste

Why do people do this?

>>10208233
>drinking IPAs

Why do people do this?

>>10208239

Some people actually like the taste of beer.

>>10208233
I'm with you. Some do okay for a month or two though. I think centennial hops last for a decent amount of time. Citra and mosaic should be fresh though

Had this two weeks ago, probably in the top 3 best barrel-aged beers I've ever had. Probably the best whiskey-barrel aged beer I've drunk in my life so far. So slick and tasty and yet you can taste some leathery tannins that comes from the barrels that is reminiscent of a decades-old wine.

It's a bit pricey, but so so worth it. Will probably get another bottle to age next time I go to buy some beer. Bless you Scotland.

>>10208107
Depends on your part of London you live in, but Kill The Cat is a new bottle shop that's opened on Brick Lane and it's impressive

Where I live is all IPAs all the time. We have breweries on every corner, then bars with their beer everywhere else. I like a good IPA here and there but now I truly appreciate ale.

I fucking love ale.

Rye ale is my new favorite.

Who /Pilsner/ here?

I love beer ice cold
Frosty mugs

>>10208674
Usually not a fan and stick to DIPAs, Bocks and Sours... then i go to hot countries and im absolutely gasping for a cold crisp light lager. Frosted mugs of asahi got me through a japanese summer visit.

>>10208684

Good lager is hard to get. American lager ruined a lot of it. Smells and tastes like stomach acid. Oddly enough I've gotten into Corona with lime because of it. I usually drink heavy beer but when I want to drink like a fish I need something I can chug down without consequence when it's 95 degrees.

I'd love a recommendation on something else.

>>10208666
same here. if a brewery's or even a liquor store's beer output is at least 1/3 IPA, then I lose respect for it.

I don't mind IPAs, a good IPA on a hot summer's day is refreshing as hell, but just hate how it's overproduced and I think a delicious malty ale or stout blows any IPA out of the water

>>10208704
i can't stand corona personally but maybe the bottle i tried was skunked

my go-to summer beers are like, fruity wheat beers and belgian whites

>>10208755
I don't think stouts or malt driven ales are even comparable to ipas and just reflect your own personal preference

thoughts on these guys?

>>10208802

I'm not trying to pretend it's good beer. But it's different and tasty with lime, salt. I only drink it because I can drink three gallons of it before I have to piss.

Heffs and fruit beers are the same as an IPA to me on hot days. I don't like light beers which is why I just go to corona, since i do like it. I can drink them all night too. Heavy beer I'll pass out.

America needs better lagers.

>>10209067
yeah i'm not attacking you for corona not being real, good beer or whatever it's just that the one time i tried it it was absolutely caustic, about as bad as steel reserve

>>10206730
It was about $0.05 per mL, I think, I didn't actually measure my pour size
A bit more than I was expecting, but I don't regret it

>>10209048
I want to try them in the US but I have to either import or go to God's Blindspot, aka Ohio

>>10209067
>America needs better lagers

I've noticed a lot of breweries are making lagers now to try to pander to normies. I'm having some of Founder's Solid Gold right now and it's okay. It'd be a good summer lawnmower beer but it kinda just reminds me of how much founders sold out now

>>10200454
Beer tastes like shit!

>>10202329
where'd you find this one?

>>10204301
tastelet spotted

>>10209633
An Italian grocery store in Milwaukee, I was there for a sandwich and lucked into it being in stock, must have just come in earlier that day

>>10209618
>Founder's Solid Gold
it's pretty decent, nothing special. That's basically how it goes with lagers since you cant mmeme them up with zany flavors and hops. It's just pure beer.

>>10205898
it tastes pretty good. think apple juice with alcohol. not beer

>>10210030
so then it's like cider, but worse? sorry i just don't see the point

What's the best cheap bear that still tastes somewhat decent? Is it PBR?

>>10210369
that tastes like beer, or that you can drink easily? important distinction

>>10210477
Both I guess? I'm not sure what you mean

>>10210516
bud light platinum has almost no flavor to it at all, it's pretty much carbonated water, but it's 6% alcohol and really easy to drink.

so i wouldn't call it good beer, but it's a decent alcohol delivery system.

compare that to like, steel reserve, which tastes vile

my favorite cheap beer though is olde english

>beer
Soymilk of alcoholic beverages

>>10209048
Mixed
I like their beers, and they do some cool shit like this
https://www.pastemagazine.com/articles/2018/02/brewdogs-new-hotel-will-have-taps-in-every-room.html
but then they have their cringe labels and acted like assholes about the whole ballast point/ship wreck thing

>>10209067
>America needs better lagers.
I've read that lagers are one of the most difficult beer styles, so that's probably an indictment on the skill of American brewers.

>>10211009
Depends on the lager

>>10211060
Go on.

>>10211009

>one of the most difficult beer styles

You're thinking of macro rice adjunct lagers like Budweiser, which are ridiculously difficult to reproduce at home. There's nothing inherently difficult about lagers, they just take a lower fermentation temperature and a longer time. But you're probably one of those, "hurr, ipa is for people who can't make good beer so just cover up their flaws with hops" fags, aren't you?

>>10211157
Some lagers are easier to brew than others. That's why most garbage beer is lager and not ale

The only drink worth drinking.

>>10211396

>said no one ever

>>10211390
Wrong

Lager is easier to brew with cheaper ingredients, most macro lager has a turn around of a week which involves no lagering at all and shouldn't really be classed as a lager.

>>10211009
Lagers aren't exactly difficult to make and make well, a lot of smaller breweries tend to not make them outside of marzens in the fall because why take two months to make one batch of beer when you can make four in that time period.

>>10211427
>some lagers are easier to brew than others
>lager is easier to brew with cheaper ingredients
Okay

Brewing a beer like Budweiser actually takes a lot of skill.
I know most people knock it for being flavourless piss water but it's actually done pretty well.
Any off taste has nowhere to hide in a beer like Budweiser.
The Japs have boring beers perfected down to a fine art. try a can of Sapporo next time you want to be bored to sleep.

Currently enjoying a Double IPA aged in gin barrels, Summer Encore from Siren Craft Brew. Tastes of sweet white wine, with notes of gin and and candied fruits. Pretty fucking amazing

>>10208239
Fuck off IPAs are amazing

>>10212752
anon from the oher thread here
I don't know if i'd enjoy a full 33cl of it however, I think half of it was just fine

>>10212789
I've had a Jakehead IPA from Wylam and an Arbor stout from Arbor ales just before so it
went down smooth. I like weird stuff and I really liked it

>>10211396
guinness is for people who think they know something about beer & have superior taste but dont know anything and are still a pleb thats hardly better than your standard lager gulpers

actually i think the beer is fine it's the fans that are the issue

>>10208233
>>buying IPAs that have been shipped halfway across the country in questionable thermal conditions instead of buying it local to ensure quality aroma and taste
Yeah, we should drink the India Pale Ale straight from the brewers like they did with Scottish beer in 1800s India...

Rate Estrella Damm to me fellow Euroflags. What did I just drink, and did I like it?

Any of you tried this one? Think orval but slightly better

>>10212825

>t. knows nothing about beer

>>10212812
we have similar tastes, it seems, since I drank the same Arbor one some weeks ago
stouts are way easier to get down on your own in my opinion, this one was very well done indeed
about to pop up this one

>>10212832
yes but it was a real pain in the ass
you have to call them wait for them to schedulde an appointment and shit and when they feel like it you can finally drive there and cask your beers
Orval is way easier to get by for me and I'm very happy with it

>>10212836
i think he's implying that the other anon was exaggerating... that yes, ipas are typically at their best fresh, local and stored correctly, but that the idea of all ipas turning to shit after a month on the shelf or in a container is hyperbolic

>>10212832
If you like westvleteren try pic related. Close and just as good

>>10212836
Are you really supposed to drink the beer variety made for maximum travel time as soon as it's off the shelf?

>>10212842
>Imperial stout with cacao and chili
That sounds amazing

>>10212991

Now you're just baiting.

>>10212997
I am a newfag to this thread, and definitely a "casual". If everything I've been told is wrong, please elaborate.

>>10212981
luckily i just got it as a gift from someone who got it on the grey market! still, whether through the brewery or on the market it's not very accessible. Worth a try for any beer lover though! Not that much better than orval at all but for those who love trappist and want to have what's regarded as one of the best beers in the world then i encourage them to try and find one or two bottles to taste.

>>10212988
thanks anon i will try and hunt it down! cant drink much of it but love a good trappist style if i'm gonna have just one or two beers on a given day

>>10202925
>Rasputin on tap
Tried this shit on nitro on Saturday, not the barrel aged, but the standard Rasputin. Absolutely fantastic.

>>10212996
there are several of them, most go by the name of mexican cake
the very best I tasted recently was pic related (sorry for the bad pic but they'reactually scarce on the net it seems, and I have nothing to take a pic of one of the 2 I have left)

>>10212996
after a few sips, it is, especially for the fact that you actually feels the chili, unlike most chili beers
it's not like you're jumping to the roof tex avery style, but you actually get your tongue a little numb from the chili, and that's what I'm interested about, not the actual chili taste

>>10213003
I concurr, as long as it's just a matter of looking after it and not a matter of getting through lottery to win the right pay 200$ for a 4 pack, any beer is worth the try at least once

>>10213002

Modern IPAs have nothing to do with long term storage/spoilage. Hop forward West Coast styles in particular will change massively within the first week of bottling. After a month or two all the hop will pretty much have gone flat. They say the rule of thumb is 3 months, but that's way too long for most ipas, and is probably the reason why so many people think they don't like the style.

How about this fellas?

>>10213074
there are some of them at my beer shop in 75cl bottles, but they're like 18€ each, so for now I passed since I had interesting cheaper stuff to discover
but they're expensive so they'll stay here for some time
is it really this hard on coffee ?

>>10213074

The best.

>>10213059
Thanks. Is this the case for US or US-style IPAs, or is there a different style of IPAs this side of the pond?
If not, how do you tell if an IPA is at the ideal time for drinking?

>>10213095
The coffee is definitely there, but it is very well balanced if you enjoy the style. Is most definitely among my favorites. I've only recently started seeing the pint cans, used to avoid getting it as it is expensive and 750ml of a 12% stout is a bit too much for me and I'm usually not splitting it with anyone.

All in all, I think it's a fantastic imperial stout.

>>10213116
out of curiosity, how much did you pay it in 50cl format/how much is it in 75cl format where you live ?

>>10213137
Paid $9 for the can at a craft beer bar this weekend; the bottle is usually about $18 if I remember correctly

In the San Francisco Bay Area.

>>10213159
I'm surprised, since US beers are usually a lot more expensive here than they are in the US
my uncle often goes to the US for work and he brings me back beers sometimes, but since the price is not exremely different I think I'll get it here

>>10213159
>>10213170

Also NorCal. In the grocery store the bottles are usually around $12.

>>10213180
Total Wine and More shows it online for $13.99, maybe I'm thinking with tax it was like $18

>>10213189

The Total Wine and More by me tends to be more expensive for a lot of things compared to BevMo or Nugget.

>>10213189
>>10213192
so if i'ts 18 dollars it's like they just changed $ to € which basically covers the price it costs to get over the atlantic ocean plus a little extra for them
seems fair to me, businesses gotta make business

Best beer ever

>>10213192
Selection has seemed to be better at Total Wine and More for me, only been by there like twice; I usually only go to the Bevmo in San Leandro and sometimes Fremont, hella IPA's but both leave much to be desired in terms of any other beer style, especially stouts.

>>10213242

Total wines definitely has a bigger selection, but at least at the one by me a lot of beers are kept on the shelves long after their drink by date and never rotated with new stuff.

>>10213214
Probably, if it is €18 it doesn't sound like they marked it up much at all to be sold overseas. Good to hear our beer is making it out there to the other side of the pond though, the idea that we only make piss beer in the states is a meme that is long dead now.

>>10200804
My fucking nigger. I used to hate cheap beer until sophomore year of college, my fraternity bought a case of these and changed my life. Currently got a few tallboys in my fridge waiting for Friday.

>>10205898
It's pretty good, as far as cider goes, I like Woodchuck best, and I'm pretty sure it's cheaper too.

>>10213288
I'm in France, so I don't know how it is in other countries, but in the other european countries I went to there wasn't american cheap beers available like PBR or Budweiser, we have our own cheap brands
but speaking of prices, this is quite an exception. usually, when I look at the US prices, what I can get in here is around 5-10€ more expensive

>>10213295

Fuck I'm glad that my undergrad didn't allow Greek system garbage on campus.

This is the gayest fucking label I've ever seen. Really well made ipa though. Almost passed it up because of the shitty artwork, but have heard good things about these guys.

>>10208233
Literally the entire existence of IPAs is to not go bad during long journeys

>>10213315
Don't worry, you wouldn't have gotten a bid anyway :^)

>>10213239
has 5% on ratebeer, a veritable turd

>>10213376

Its a meme beer in Russia
Its like drinking ethanol with a bit of beer flavor

>>10213340
>>>10208233
>Literally the entire existence of IPAs is to not go bad during long journeys
Historically, you mean. You are talking about the historical intention of creating the IPA recipe. Nowadays refrigeration isn't an issue, so using the word "entirely" and "existence" together doesn't scream accuracy.

>>10213239
I drank a big plastic bottle of this and threw up from the taste. Wasn't even that drunk, it was just vile.

>>10213454
>Wasn't even that drunk,
yeah i bet you fucking wuss

>bought a 30 pack of PBR because bros were coming up for the weekend

>had a good time

>we only drank around half the 30 pack

>now stuck with 14 - 15 PBRs in my fridge

Should I accept the loss and buy better beer to enjoy on the weekend while throwing these out, or just slowly burn through them over the next 3 - 4 weeks?

Does anyone have that super hop 9000 IPA picture? It was just a joke about IPAs and said like 50,000 IBUs or whatever.

>>10213441
But why? it's only 8%, tons of delicious juicy ass new england pale ales, double IPAs, sweet rich stouts etc are 8% and above, why is the baltika so alcohol forward? is it just a light lager with no flavor of its own?

>>10213331
Also grabbed a crowler of this stuff. I really like Oliphant, but not the biggest fan of their ipas. A little bitter for me.

>>10205898
>>10213302
It's not a cider. It's an ale, as in Redd's Apple ALE. It's brewed like a beer would be but they add sugar and apple flavored stuff.

>>10213818
Send them to me

>>10213288
I'm not so sure that people think highly of American beer yet; we sell some of your beers at my bottle shop in Aus, and generally our customers and staff don't like them. We only stock Bud, Miller's and Coors, but sometimes we'll get some Sierra Nevada or Blue Moon in and I'll generally rec that if anyones interested in better American beer.

>>10213239
I had this last night....

>>10214292
We drink a lot of fosters when we go to outback
We think it is fun to pretend we are Abbie are ancestors of criminals who worship a big red rock
My wife likes to say a prayer to the Aussie rock when they bring out our blooming onion and rye bread
Goodbye mate throw dah shrimp on dah Barbie and huff some petrol ya cunt

What am I in for?

Got a six pack of Dirty Bastard last weekend, was pretty good.

>>10214116
Oh I should say the flavor is very good and tropical. Sort of peachy too. Just never a big fan of the bitterness.

>>10214292
You just need some better Murrikan beers.

Shiner Bocks, Boulevard Wheats for basic shit, and then some highly rated craft beer should be the ideal.

>>10214357
The most strangely inoffensive beer of all time.

>>10213340
Keep in mind that "bad" means something much different in these contexts.
It was originally created too stop the bacteria from taking over and turning the beer sour because people didn't even know what sanitation or bacteria was back then.
Nowadays when one speaks of an IPA going bad, they really mean less good, IPAs are so much better tasting when they are fresh, and become mediocre after 3-6 months, they aren't bad in the sense that they have spoiled, just a missed opportunity to have a significantly better beer

>>10213331
Fantasy Factory is a really good beer

Tis what I'm having tonight. Epic Brewing's Big Bad Baptista. It's their regular baptist imperial stout but this one is aged in Whiskey barrels with Mexican chocolate, vanilla and Cinnamon. Which I feel is kind of redundant since Mexican Chocolate has that "cinnanmony" flavor to it

>>10214697
>Which I feel is kind of redundant since Mexican Chocolate has that "cinnanmony" flavor to it
pretty sure it has that flavor because it has cinnamon in it

Splitting a growler of a chocolate raspberry porter with the gf tonight. Definitely what they call good shit

>>10200454
Man, you drank it without aging it? I can't handle 120 (or any barleywine) without at least a year on it.

>>10202329
My local place finally got some of the barrel aged CW stuff, I need to pick some up

>>10202562
i mean it's not the worst cider out there

>>10203644
try more pale ales and red ales, they have stronger malt presence while retaining the hops. I personally hate red ales but they may be up your alley

>>10208666
rye beers are great, patrician spotted

>>10210369
Hamm's

>>10211396
I encountered somebody this weekend who thought Guinness was high-ABV because it was a stout, fucking tragic

>>10212996
Meh, I had a "mole porter" brewed with chocolate and chilies and it was just a lot of spice. Maybe a higher ABV would have helped, it was only like 6.8%

>>10213331
I had one of these at a party two years ago holy shit

I remember liking it but couldn't remember the name, thank you so much

>>10213818
PBR is fine, just drink it

>>10214435
There's not the demand for it my man, like I said people are extremely ambivalent about American beers. The local craft scene here has really taken off in the last few years and that's what is taking up the shelf space.

I wouldn't be surprised if we get rid of the Millers, Bud and Coors soon, we have cases of it just sitting around all the time while the Asian beers are flying out the door.

>>10215034
Bud, Coors and Miller are only nominally American beers. They are all foreign owned and run international breweries

I have no idea what real American beers are even available to you, probably most of the ones that are significantly better than your local stuff aren't super readily available (the vast majority of things people post in these threads)

>>10211171
As I said, I was just basing it off what I've read. I don't brew so I don't have an opinion on the topic myself.

>>10214292
>>10214435
>>10215034
>>10215056
As a fellow Ausfag I can confirm that guy's shop just sells cheap crap. Probably a Liquor Land or something similar.

Independent bottle shops always have American craft beer, usually a lot of it, and more than any other country's beer (except Aus).

>>10211396
I honestly drank a can of Guinness (though apparently it's brewed here somewhere in the North America for the NA market by contract) thinking I'll enjoy it considering I'm a fan of dark beers (though never had a nitro beer before) and it tasted like I was drinking liquefied socks. Had to pour the rest of it out.

Just tasted so dank, don't see how people think it's a delicious beer. And I drink fucking heavy as hell porters/stouts with god knows how many IBUs on average.

>>10217168
Their extra stout is actually pretty tasty and sort of unique for a stout. Draught isn't good. It's creamy, bitter water

Probably the best Christmas beer I've had. Enjoyed it more than St. Bernardus Christmas ale for some reason.

>>10213331
try untitled art if you see any

>>10203644
Turn 22

>>10210369
For me, its Miller High Life, the Champagne of Beers.

Just had pic related not too long ago. Tasted exactly like a cinnamon roll. 8/10 would get Diabetes again.

>>10217203
why is is writtetn in french on the bottle sinc it's an austrian beer ? also, nice reflection in the glass

>>10218020
Maybe it identifies as french

>>10217983
the blue moon cinnamon horchata ale is pretty enjoyable for a cheap mass produced novelty beer so i bet this is way better

>>10218401
I love that so much. It is an amazing beer desu.

Drinking a few of these. Top tier pils

>>10217168
most Guinness in America is brewed in Canada I think so they can minimize shipping costs and still call it imported

>>10208233
I'm on board with this opinion. I'll take an average IPA that's fresh over a good IPA that has sat for months.

>>10213818
>Can no longer put away a 30 rack with bros over a weekend
>Willing to drink PBR with friends, but not alone
Congrats anon, you're getting old and pretentious.

>>10217203
This shit is candy in a bottle. Not even sure I like it, but it's an annual tradition at this point.

>>10201385
You must not drink very good beer then.

>>10202810
Driving to Grand Rapids tomorrow, might have to stop by them.

>>10210369
Rolling Rock

PBR smells and tastes like farts

Very good IPA. Recommended to people who don't think good IPAs exist.

>>10213331
Saw that in the store when I bought this stuff. Gonna try it next week.

Love the box on this one

>>10220103
Here's a bottle

>>10210369

>>10219484
>>10218401
the bruery's horchata style beer is awesome

>>10210369
Hamm's or yuengling

>>10221307
>yuengling
this

>>10220119
tfw Australian and this beer is expensive as fuck

>>10221346
>tfw everything is expensive as fuck in Australia.

Gonna smash these badboys when i get hom

You guys are dumb. Beer is for getting drunk. Only women worry about what tastes good when it comes to alcohol.

>>10222458
so drink everclear, fucker

or do you wanna drink fizzy estrogen water

>>10221307
>>10221314
can you get yuengling in california i've never seen it anywhere

Where were you when you realized that Belgium makes the best beer?

>>10222078
inhaler was pretty standard, but I have good memories of the brewsky on the right (I don't remember the name, but I remember the label)
popping up this one from magic rock right now since I just came back from work

>>10222614
dunno, it's probably because I drank too much of them since high school, but belgian beers fail to interest me
I know most of the big names too well, I know exactly the taste I'm going to get and that kinda ruins the thing for me
but they're still very good to get drunk with friends

>>10222601

Yeah, it's in the shitty beer section of the beer aisle - a place most people in CA never bother to browse.

>>10222676
Where? I live in SoCal and I’ve never seen Yeunglung at the grocery store, BevMo or Total Wine. Even among the shitty beer like Bud 55.

>>10222676
>t. never been to california

i'm serious mate i browse the cheapest shit and it's not there

>>10210369
Unironically Budweiser

>>10213818

>Taking a month to drink 14 beers

>>10222614
I broke free of that meme as soon as I realized the best beer is 9/10 times whatevers local.

>>10222458
Reminds me of that "My Strange Addiction" episode where the woman would store her own piss on mason jars. Not a mason jar but piss in a glass, you get the gist of it.

>>10222683
>>10222687

I guess you're right. Only moved back here from the East Coast last year and was used to seeing it everywhere. Don't really pay close attention to the shitty beer.

>>10222770
i appreciate the civil response and yeah i've only ever seen yeungling in person when i was on the east coast for magfest

This is some fine stuff

>>10223075

>15% abv blueberry beer

Wut?

>>10222614
Belgium.

>>10206494
Founders releases seem to vary quite a bit. I've had CBS that tastes like artificially sweetened guiness, and godly KBS that tastes like sticky toffee pudding.
This fucker is the same.

>>10223208
ddlo is 29.11.17, but I don't think 3 months matter a lot when it comes to stouts

Drinking a few of these while cooking lunch for my work week.

>>10202352
It usually has a unique flavour, I either loath it or love it.

>>10203644
By drinking them.

>>10208239
Because they like drinking hoppy beer.

>>10208704
Sol is in the same vein.

>>10223075
>15%

whoa

>>10210369
Sleeman's isn't undrinkable.

>>10212988
Seconded, this stuff is great.

>>10216048
Canada has some good stuff, not crazy about their cider though.

Just picked this guy up

http://ommegang.com/blog/joemmegang/

>>10220085
Ale Asylum is pretty solid. This one is a classic

>get on my level nerds

Niggers, I have a night ahead of me

hamm's tonight babyyyyyy

>>10206494
New kbs is shit. I've had every release and the newer one is garbage. CBS is over hyped garbage from what it was. This year's backwoods bastard is much better than normal and over 9000 tier on draft. Homeboy making the bells argument strikes a nerve but honestly the loss of the strong honey flavors has affected it more than it just being a michigan dipa/strong ipa. Old hopslam was unique. Big brewers doing profit is the only answer. Both are pretty great brewers though and i expect them to fix their shit. Also larry bell is a fucking wild man making wild shit so him forgetting to rock hopslam and making shit tier black note this year is understandable when he does crazy shit like wide release bba expedition.

>>10200454
just started brewing a Maibock that will (in several months' time) become a Festbock... pictures to follow if my phone agrees.

>>10225001
Dude, KBS is still super good. A lot of other brewers also make really good beers of that style now, which wasn't the case when it came to prominence, but its still really good

Also, I didn't think CBS was overhyped at all, truly a top tier beer, though slightly overpriced. I'm with you on Backwoods Bastard being better than ever though

>>10213331
Fuzzy

Baby


Ducks

Nebco. Learn it. Love it. Drink it.

>>10201348
A wild fucking ride. It's extremely sweet (quad so sure) but the raspberry plays along and the hops are all there.

Bro who asked style: quad ipa with raspberries. Off shoot of batch 5k which was epic tier through hoppy holidays pack last year until weird 2nd hoppy holidays release which tasted like catalope of all things and was lower abv.

>>10225050
Jumped in late here, but...

Quad IPA with Raspberries?? If you'd have said any two of these three, I'd have gagged and just ignored everything about this, but I'm intrigued enough to try it... Possibly even enough to film the moment and the aftermath so the rest of the internet can giggle at my lack of testicular fortitude.

>>10225058
A.
Wild.
Fucking.
Ride.

>>10225058

>>10225081
>>10225087
It's not that I don't believe you, it's just that I need to find the bridge between the words and what my experience is telling me the combination would taste like.

>>10225058
i love beer as much as the next guy but this is the most "IPA drinking white guy" post ever

>>10225099
Joe short makes a cornucopia of weird shit that never could, will or wants to work.

He also is a mad fucker making weird wild stuff that will push your wig all the way back. 6 of one, half dozen of the other.

>>10225111
I don't like IPAs, and I'm not that white.

Not that it proves anything, but I'm brewing Mai/bockFestbock and Porter at the moment - no bullshit, no excessive hops (or anything from the CTZ/Cascade family), just beer, the way the God the white IPA guzzlers worship intended.

>>10225137
I hate the idea of all three, but I'd still try them.

>>10225149
Hooper is one of the best hopped sours on the planet. (Anna will beat it I am sure but home court advantage will make it tough). Do watcha is a brewed sazerrac and that is amazing for making a low abv brewed beverage taste like a bartender mixed cocktail. Think about it for a second. Run is one of the most challenging brewing mistakes I've ever drank. It is over the top on everything. I've converted more wine/whiskey drinkers to craft by having a glass with them than any other beer. Every 2 deg. Of serving temp it displays a totally new flavor profile. Over the top sour/stout/bba/milder sour/roast/whiskey/etc etc etc. It is straight nuts anyone would ever bottle and sell it but awesome to sit and drink. I don't know why I bought it because it isn't even likeable second swig.. but fuck is it cool at the end of a glass.

>>10225058
Also: not belgian... quad. Think double but double again.

>>10225186
They're definitely too interesting too pass up, and thanks for the idea of letting them warm as they go... just reeks of "So preoccupied with whether or not they could that they didn't stop to think if they should."

>>10225195
I get the idea of quad outside of a Belge context. Quad stouts and German quads are at least a seasonal thing for me.

I can dig a well made IPA, most Belgian or otherwise quads, and raspberries. My brain tells me these things shouldn't be combined, but my sense of adventure tells me there could be a really fragile balance somewhere in the carnage underneath all three.

The same brewery does a single day distribution of a great double ipa to 4 Midwestern states. From fermenter to bottle to truck to shelf. Single day. It is the ultimate fuck you to fussy new England brewers who can't into logistics and sell in 25 mile radius to be cunty and drive demand. They fuck up alot. In Michigan you go hard and eat the pain or you fuck right off and do something more your speed. Knitting maybe. They make some garbage, they make alot of really good shit. They fuck up and make good shit at a rate that doesn't sell so they had to partner with lagunitas (heineken) to support nut jobs habit. Only hippies are so immune to the a way of capitalism to not understand these things.

Nutty fucker.

https://youtu.be/rjFUn7n5kmE

>>10225267
I don't force carbonate, so the same day everything almost made me shit myself... but even with a tank providing your bubbles, same day would be very difficult ... maybe if they started at midnight.

Think end of ferment to bottle not brew day to bottle. It is a commercial brewery.The boil starts long before.

This stuff is pretty damn good.

>>10225298
Boil to bottle would be impossible, but even second/tertiary to bottle to shelf in the same day would be difficult to do. Carbonation would have to be quick, and logistics would have to be precise.

>>10225305
Did you lose the top of your can?

>>10225308
Psychadeluc cat grass. From tip of the mitt lower michigan to all of mi, and checking the box in the distro footprint of in, Il and oh.

>>10225322
not my picture, don't know whats up with that.

>>10225334
It is the kitchen at the brewery

>>10225331
To bottle and distribute in the same day, they'd have to start really early

>>10225342
No shit. Google it

>>10225346
That's gotta be hitting Canadian levels of ridiculous pricing. Do they have enough of a demand to keep someone there 24/7?

>>10225342
Also merchandised to shelf. Mic drop tier of dick wagging.

>>10225359
Either I'm too drunk to get it, or you're as drunk as I am. Either way, cheers!

>>10225298
So many fresh triliums and tree houses ahead of me, so many Foley brothers behind...
https://www.shortsbrewing.com/shorts-brewing-co-announces-release-psychedelic-cat-grass-without-delay-ipa/

>>10225395
Not sure about the poetry, but... even reading that is turning me off. Again, I'd try it, but seems like a ham-fisted, plaid-clad assault with the galaxy hop.

>>10225027
Opinions are like assholes. I have to live with mine and yours ultimately involves dicks so w/e. This year's kbs (like the last 3) is an ever downward spiraling loss of bourbon character resulting in a chocolate bomb. Sure, it's ok. It is not what put kbs on the map. It does not compete any longer with its competitor to the east in kzoo (Larry put bba expedition into bottles and deer god if you can find it your children's children will write songs about it) or west in Chicago (inbev).

>>10225267
Shorts makes some gross shit from time to time like Bloody Beer and is sorta forcing the Speedcult colab beers a bit too much, but at the end of the day, they're trying new and different stuff instead of just settling for what works. Their taproom in Belaire is great and very cozy.

>>10222614
australia

>>10223438
not much canadian beer available here outside of unibroue

>>10223438
leaf beer is shit which is why they hardly ever export it and all that is exported is crap

>>10223075
>fruity 15% ABV drink
At that point you're just drinking wine in a beer bottle.

>calling beers “craft beers”

>>10229091
why not? We need a word to differentiate good beer from watery mediocre beer

>>10228492
When we start calling you Karen.

Recent beer. Very good. Very tart. I like sours

>>10229846
Your hand and arm are absolutely dreadful.

>>10209618
Sold out. The have had solid gold on tap for a decade now. It amazes me how long they took to push it to retail.

From a founders local that has been in their mug club since day one.

>>10211470
Yeah and consider how much they make and how exact they are, it really is amazing.

Spring is just around the corner, fellas

>>10229856
Nice salt fatty.

>>10200454
all beer taste like shit unless its doused in sugar. Cider or fuck off boys

Say hello to the cheese ipa.

>>10230737
That picture made me gag you fucking disgusting monster.

Had a 4 pack of this last night from their new brewery, better than ever

>>10202562
Nah, it's pretty decent if you only have a couple. But too much will give you heartburn. Anyways, hard ciders are in a class all their own and you shouldn't really feel ashamed for liking them.

>>10200804
i get those bullets for a buck each, so nice

Eh

>>10232835

That sounds disgusting... Does it taste good?

>>10213239
Those guys almost even fail at making a porter. But after a bottle of vodka it came across as good. When I had another bottle in the beginning of the drinking session it became evident it was not. The former case is probably when it's supposed to be had.

Maybe the best super hoppy beer I have had

>>10229391
Just drink what you like and stop worrying about labels and appearances. Do you call good pizza from a local pizzeria “craft pizza” do differentiate from chains like Dominos or Pizza Hut?

>>10233514
No, with pizza I would specify a local place, or something to that effect to differentiate from shitty cheap pizza. But words separating low tier from high tier things exist in all sorts of food and non-food industries, its absurd to get mad about it

Do you get mad at people who prefer to go to a local, authentic mexican restaurant over taco bell?

>>10233562
>Do you get mad at people who prefer to go to a local, authentic mexican restaurant over taco bell?
No, I fall into that category. But I would be annoyed if someone referred to the food at said restaurant as “craft Mexican”. It’s like the faggots who call comic books graphic novels.

>>10233165
I barely tasted the pineapple, so it was like a p normal ipa

>>10233628
its no different than referring to it as "real mexican", or "authentic mexican" or "local taqueria"
using more specific terms is not a bad thing when ambiguity is not desired. Its not like people go to the bar and say "I will have one craft beer mister bartender", they use it when the specificity is useful

>>10200804
Banquet is good. Its retardedly expensive in Alberta so I don't get it too often though.

>>10233708
But do you refer to the bartender as mister bartender?

>>10200454
What are you reading, OP?

>>10200804
I’m an American 27 year old and have been drinking beer heavily for more than half my life yet have never had a regular Coors. I have never seen it at a party. I can count on my hand the times I’ve seen it served at a bar, yet I see advertised quite often.

>>10233853
It's the angle, by the way. My thumb is not really the size of a tall boy, hah.

>>10233863
Sure thing, Andrè...

>>10233853
>chop

>>10233628
Do you get this uppity when people refer to your mother as a syphalitc gutter whore instead of just calling her a chum dumpster? It's just words budweiser friend, they can't hurt you.

>>10225050
where did you get all these? also, how is the 20 and the vivant stout?

>>10225267
i happen to have a bottle of pan galactic gargle blaster in my fridge, but i think it might be kind of old. i was on my way to clearing out some of the stuff in there, then i just refilled it with detroit stroh's...

>>10235063
20 is awesome. A bit boozy but that should improve eith a little time. The couple bottles we've opened made eyes bulge out and people run out to find it. The love shadow is really fucking good this year. Both it and wbg are much better fresh than last year's iteration which turned to solid gold with a year in the basement. I don't know if these will improve as much but hope they do.

>>10235076
No beer is worthy of that name. It's supposed to be a drink damnit.

>>10235076
Pan Galactic Gargle Blaster is probably my favorite beer from Shorts. They need to make it every year and not just in the odd variety pack.

>>10200454

I usually buy whatever froufrou craft beer seems nice. And a 6 pack of Molson or something that I put a shot of rye whisky in.

best beer reporting in

Just got back from having some of this at a bar. It was excellent