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10192947 No.10192947 [Reply] [Original]

Ok I understand why its important that vegans let you know they are vegan as soon as you meet them, but why do I need to know how many years they have been on that diet?

>> No.10192976

So you know how long they have left to live.

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>>10192976
kek its like saying I am six weeks into a hunger strike

>> No.10193224

because every vegans are entitled sjw who think they should be given medals and praised for their sacrifices.

>> No.10193270

I hide my veganism. My coworkers didn't know for years. Im sure most vegans aren't that annoying, the ones who broadcast it eat frozen vegan tv dinners anyway.

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>>10193270
How did you hide your power level?

>> No.10193341

>>10192947
Because most people bail on that pathetic shit after a month.

>> No.10193351

>>10193300
>power level of vegans
it's easy to hide something that doesn't exist

>> No.10193395

>>10192947
dude, leave meat it`s fucking hard (ex vegan here) so, maybe people feel proud about how long they are sustaining such retarded habit.
Also, people claim to soon to be vegetarian or vegan because when you socialize you go outside to eat , food is very important to socialize. I guess it´s pretty retarded to say it soon, but i understand why some people do that.

>> No.10193500

>>10192947
>>10193270
This, I don't tell anyone I'm vegan unless they explicitly ask.

>> No.10193508

>>10193500
nobody here asked you feeble, malnourished fuck.

>> No.10193527
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>>10193508
damn, all that meat has you all riled up

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>>10193508

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>>10193527
Thats what happens when you are not a soy boy.
Testosteroni Tony!

>> No.10193862

I was vegan for seven years and I was feeling dizzy all the time and vomiting a couple of times a week. My liver was unable to improve beyond 30% capacity. Half of my teeth had fallen out, and the ones that remained were a faint greenish color and had a chalky texture. I was so anemic I couldn't touch iron without leaving little impressions where my skin had desperately tried to suck it into my body. I was so frail I couldn't even open my front door any more. Eventually the doctor told me I would have to start eating meat or I would not only die, but die so thoroughly that my soul would be erased. So I did.

Trust me, being vegan a long time is a massive triumph.

>> No.10193961

>>10193862
Just eats some beans. What did your diet look like at the time?

>> No.10194069

>>10193961
really?

>> No.10194394

>>10194069
Yes, really. Wondering what you left out, since you can be healthy on a vegan diet.

>> No.10194411

>>10194394
>you can be healthy on a vegan diet.
No amount of screeching that you 'can' get as many nutrients from eating nothing but tofu and vegetable semen as you can from a normal diet, will in practice work out that way.

>> No.10194436

>>10194411
You should've eaten more than just tofu, anon. Don't be bitter that you were too much of a brainlet to structure a proper diet.

>> No.10194641

>>10194436
good god you are slow on the uptake

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>>10194641

>> No.10194914

Vegans are only alive at all because cum is so protein rich.

>> No.10195467
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Women love it

>> No.10195859

>>10194641
I'm sorry, anon. I'm sure you tried really hard. Too bad it didn't work out :(

>> No.10195895
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>>10195467
Vegan """""""""""physique"""""""""""

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>>10195895
And who among them are vegan? Also Eugene a qt.

>> No.10196015

>>10192947

Same reason people like to rant and rave against vegans — Some people are just obnoxious cunts.

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>>10196015
and telling people within the first day meeting them how many years they have been a vegan...thats not obnoxious ?

>> No.10196053

>>10195895
did they just fuck up the test somehow

>> No.10196055

>>10192947
Vegans believe they are morally superior and therefor believe their lifestyle choices should be followed. A good analogy would be nazi Germany. It's usually just annoying but it can become problematic when they actually obstruct businesses and damage the economy. Imposing your own believes on others usually leads to totalitarianism. And that always leads to cruelty against people. And most vegans dislike people because they seem to like animals more. When a large demographic decides to go vegan it could potentially lead to war or at least a completely dysfunctional society. The Vegans fail to comprehend this because of the lack of nutrients to the brain. Hence they go deeper and deeper into a state of cognitive dissonance. yet again quite the same as Nazi Germany. Going Vegan is a mental health disorder and should be treated as such just like we do with people who suffer from Anorexia or Boulimia. It's sad but if you're Vegan and are reading this now know that there is help and you can get well. Good luck!

>> No.10196062

>>10196053
>of course not
look at their pics, does it appear to you they fucked up?

>> No.10196069

>>10196055
>Vegans believe they are morally superior and therefor believe their lifestyle choices should be followed
I'm not vegan and don't really care about the animals, but not eating meat is certainly better for the environment. All else equal, to say it's not a more moral choice is like saying there's no difference between dumping oil in the ocean and not doing that.
>Imposing your own believes on others usually leads to totalitarianism
By that logic any given society inevitably devolves into tyranny.

>> No.10196123

>>10196069
Jesus christ they prove the point for you.
And look closely anons, this is what they are all like.
They all think they are better than you.
All of them

>> No.10196157

>>10196123
Why the fuck should it bother you if people think they're better than you? That's what weak faggots do, they see ressentiment as an opportunity to shut someone/something out and not grapple with it. That's the coward's way, and the main defense mechanism that prevents personal growth, very befitting a small mind such as yours that thinks eating meat and dairy is the only thing preventing a fascist takeover.

>> No.10196167

>>10196157
Wow the brainwashing runs deep in this one.
Yes my friend , for most of the planet , imagining you are superior is considered a character flaw unless you are part of a cult

>> No.10196170

>>10196157
So your implying we should beat the living daylight out of vegans. I'll start today!

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>>10196170
>your

>> No.10196193

>>10196167
Focusing on the messenger to the detriment of what is actually being said is brainlet 101. ''who's this faggot who thinks he can tell ME how to live!?'' etc. Calling your opponent smug isn't actually an argument, but a way for people to feel secure in their complacency so they don't have to confront their own biases. If you didn't notice, you haven't said anything that's the least bit relevant to the argument I presented.

>imagining you are superior is considered a character flaw
Even said I wasn't vegan, just made a comment on the moral content of it. But then that's the implication of any proposition saying x is more moral than not x, where x isn't some banality. This is why social change can be so hard, because people are sensitive faggots who take everything as a personal insult rather than an opportunity to re-evaluate a situation and their own relation to it.

>> No.10196335

The air you breathe has touched dead animals so there is no such thing as vegan

>> No.10196390

>>10196335
With the power of meat, you too can be a master logician like this poster

>> No.10196416

>>10196390
You know I'm not wrong though, call it logic if you will but it's the truth and you and your mushy soy grain brain will soon realise it

>> No.10196441

>>10196416
You're from /pol/, aren't you?

>> No.10196460

>>10196441
No but if deflecting is all you can do then don't bother replying again, go feed some pigeons and grow up a bit. Actually don't feed the pigeons because unless you get magic vegan bread that's only 35% more expensive because of fairy tax you will be making animals eat other animals

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>>10196460
>vegan bread

>> No.10196560

>>10196460
Are you honestly saying that vegans arent vegans because the air they breathe has touched animals? How are you not embarrassed? Are you a faggot (among other reasons) because air which has touched your semen has touched your lips? Christ you're an absolute humiliation to the human race

>> No.10196622

>>10196560
Yes we are all faggots, we are everything because in the end humans are just husks of material and life is a concept that the cells and bacteria that formed us created

>> No.10196627

>>10196622
Oh how profound, professor. I'll tell god.
Shush, you tit.

>> No.10196637

>>10196627
Funny you replied so fast, I totally forgot about this thread but glad you found some amusement at least. I could make more random stupid replys and shit but I haven't got time to procrastinate any more today so cya bud

>> No.10196665

>>10196637
You sound like an absolute dunce. As if you really struggled to sound smart while typing that and in so doing, sounded as if you were really struggling to sound smart. Just sayin'

>> No.10197303

>>10192947
because 80% of vegans don't make it a full 2 years on the diet before abandoning, so the 20% who do make it feel really special.

>> No.10197720

>>10196123
They are better than you

>> No.10197786

>>10193187
Vegans are the best
FOR ME TO POOP ON

>> No.10198193

>>10197786
so witty

>> No.10198819

>>10196069
if nobody ate chickens there wouldn't be any chickens. or cows, sheep, goats blah etc.

>> No.10199177

>>10198819
vegans would keep some for sex

>> No.10199188

>>10192947
half of them are only identifying as vegan at that particular moment.

>> No.10199447

>>10198819
Fair enough. We could limit our intake of these animals by 90% and there'd still be plenty of them, but I doubt you'd advocate that. Or we could just use the eggs and milk.

>> No.10199482

>>10199447
fuck that, i'm not eating retarded cuckcakes just because you're a pansy. i'll order some veal and fois gras next time i need to fill my fridge, and were it not for you being such a thundering vagina i wouldn't have done so.

>> No.10200190

>>10193224
>vegans are entitled
>I deserve meat

>> No.10200191

>>10200190
if someone sells meat at a price and you buy meat at that price then you deserve meat in exchange for that price

>> No.10200342

>>10200191
You haven't really justified your position beyond ''it's available''.

>> No.10200591

>>10198193
Rule 2

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>>10200342
It's available because the free market demands it, you fucking queer.

>> No.10200642

>>10192947
Most vegans jump into a subculture, like homosexuals into pride. Men try and compete against each other with things penis size, muscle size or things like I drive a sport car, or I fuck a trophy wife. Vegans, being into this subculture, think those things are silly from their POV, still, they need to brag and compete like every other male so they brag on things like "I have been on a vegan diet for longer than you" or "not only I am not a vegan, I also doesn't use products from things that breathe". Same thing happens with female vegans.

Not all vegans are like that, just like not all homosexuals are bipedal aids who fuck every cock around.

>> No.10200696

>>10192947
ive told my family and a couple of friends im vegan and thats about it, obviously if im out and about i have to ask if stuff is vegan but beyond that i barely mention it.
also recently I gave blood turns out im healthy af

>> No.10200725

>>10200636
Because people like you feel entitled to it.

>> No.10201099

>>10200696
Your family, a couple of friends and this thread. Worst kind of attention seeker

>> No.10201112

>>10200725
And people like you feel entitled to be pretentious cunts. Your point?

>> No.10201113

>>10200342
Nobody "deserves" anything.
Tell me why you think you have a right to ANY food. Or water for that matter.

>>10200725
Yeah, ancaps famously feel entitled. You'd a fucking idiot.

>> No.10201144

>>10193300
I've never had to bring it up unless it involves a friend or coworker. If someone offers me food, or to go get lunch, I don't want them to think that I'm shy or rude for rejecting it after the third or something instance they've asked me. I've lived in socal all my life, and I've been working a food service job for years, I've never had a customer tell me they're vegan outright. The "vegans always tell you they're vegan" meme might have some truth to it in online discussions but as far as real life interactions go, I've never experienced it.

>> No.10201150

>>10201144
You seem like one of the good ones.
Last coworker I had who was vegan had to mention it every day. Commenting on what I could have had in my homemade lunch instead of meat, telling us all what was in hers...
When it war her birthday she bought in a cake. Instead of decorating it with her name or a flag it had VEGAN NURSE written on it.
I'm sure that looked great on your Instagram, you insufferable bitch.

>> No.10201237

>>10193500
>don't tell anyone.
>tells everyone.
Vegans.

>> No.10201248

>>10196193
>Calling your opponent smug isn't actually an argument, but a way for people to feel secure in their complacency so they don't have to confront their own biases.
Actually being smug is a character flaw because you assume you are correct no matter what, which is bias.

>> No.10201251

>>10196665
Smug reddit poster.
No one cares if you eat meat or don't.
But Vegens have to tell everyone which is smug.
Either way only rich cunts can be vegan and no one cares if cows get eaten.

>> No.10201252

>>10198819
Modern day chickens and cows are fucking disgusting disgraces. Chickens have split into 'broilers' raised for meat and 'layers' laid for eggs - both suffer disabilities and weakness throughout their lives. ALL farm animals are like this, sickly, broken, evolution ruined by man. These creatures are unnatural. They live lives of agony and suffering. This argument that 'they want to be bred so they exist' is stupid as fuck, its like saying that those retard children born without brains should be impregnated because if we don't do it they wouldn't exist. Guess what? they shouldn't exist, and neither should modern, emaciated, giving milk whilst pregnant 'cows' or modern antibiotic guzzling 'chickens'. I am a Vegan but would gladly genocide every single cow, chicken and farm animal on the planet if I could guarantee that meatcucks wouldn't just get desperate and start eating dogs or foxes instead. Fuck you.

>> No.10201256

>>10199447
>We could limit our intake of these animals by 90% and there'd still be plenty of them,
Wanna know how I know you never been out in the woods.
Fun fact animals don't grow to massive numbers when theyre prey.

>> No.10201257

>>10201113
>Tell me why you think you have a right to ANY food. Or water for that matter.
Because I can go and procure it and not buy it at a store.
Because water is like 70 percent of the world.

>> No.10201269

>>10201257
That's not the same as having a right to it, retard.
If you go fishing and don't catch anything you don't have the right to demand a fish. You either catch it or you don't. Rights never factor into it.
Land is 30% of the world. Do you think you have the right to a plot it?

>> No.10201412

>>10201113
>Tell me why you think you have a right to ANY food.
We have an interest in not starving to death and propagating the species, but we still modify our behaviour to that end. You can have sex with your wife but not a toddler.
>>10201248
Put my bias to the test then and form a coherent argument.
>>10201256
What are you talking about? We're already raising these animals.

>> No.10201414

>>10201144
>socal all my life, and I've been working a food service job for years, I've never had a customer tell me they're vegan outright


I dont see how this can be true. I used t work in cafe in silver lake and many customers started their order by saying they were vegan.
This was ages ago and I cant imagine it has gotten better.
Are you making things up?

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>>10200725
And you're implying you're somehow naturally entitled to those plants? Nobody deserves anything, nothing is given by nature, only taken.

>> No.10201766

>>10192947
I'm actually ashamed of being vegan. I tell nobody. I've dropped over 100 lbs in 2 years. When people ask about my diet I'm vague. Oh, I just exercise a lot and eat a high protein, high fiber diet.

I'm only vegan for the health and environmental benefits. I could give 2 shits about the ethics. If I'm at a party, I'll politely accept whatever is offered. I hate people that make a big deal about it.

>> No.10201811

>>10201745
Right, but we could establish a baseline and say we all deserve food, because we need to eat, right? Now the next step is to ask what's the most ethical way to consume this. You could argue you're entitled to vegetables but not meat for a multitude of reasons, ecology, animal rights etc.

This whole pointless line of though only started because some retard called vegans entitled.

>> No.10201817

>>10201766
Don't be ashamed it's your life, your choice. If people get pissy about it just remind them it's a diet not a religion you aren't trying to convert anyone or preach if you don't do those things your friends will still he cool about it.

>> No.10201838

>>10201811
>You could argue you're entitled to vegetables but not meat for a multitude of reasons, ecology, animal rights etc.
Then argue them right now faggot.

>> No.10201843

>>10201745
>Nobody deserves anything, nothing is given by nature, only taken.

Not true. The evolutionary purpose of fruit is to be eaten.

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>>10201838
I did very early on in this thread, but none of you people seem capable of even discussing this. 90% of this thread so far has been pointless invective. That wasn't the point of that post though, I was just questioning the assertion that vegans are particularly entitled (whatever that meant).

>> No.10202011

>>10201875
Quote the posts then.

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>>10202011
>>10196069
Of course, it's not a very effective argument if you don't care about ecology, lessening suffering etc.

>> No.10202100

>>10202076
q u o t e t h e m

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>>10202100
I just did.

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>>10202133
>strawmen are logical pints now

>> No.10202227

>>10202148
Didn't imply that's what you'd say, but it's undoubtedly an argument you'll run into a lot.

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>>10202076
>>10202133
>i'm vegan because abuse and killing are unexceptable
>i still use phones and computers and wear clothes made with 3rd world slave labor
>and pay taxes to government that kills people in middle east

>> No.10202268

>>10202246
I'd argue we need clothes and smart phones more than we need hamburgers, but nonetheless the whole sweatshop thing is a necessary and temporary phase in the development of countries like china, and not buying any stuff made there isn't going to make their lives any better. Also it's ludicrous to hold every single citizen of a country ultimately responsible for what its government does.

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>>10202227
Facebook memes aren't an argument ya cunt.

>> No.10202356

>>10202342
Already said it wasn't an argument aimed at you, just a general observation. How about you address what I wrote instead?

>> No.10202358

>>10202356
Quote what you wrote faggot, I haven't seen a single logical argument in the thread.

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>>10202358
I did here.
>>10202076
Then I told you about it here.
>>10202133

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>>10202369
Wait, are you implying you're the one that makes this shit comics? Does it pay?

>> No.10202397

>>10202268
>we need smart phones more than food
Jesus Christ, how do people as retarded as you manage to just stay alive

>> No.10202406

I eat like 95+% vegan for non-moral reasons. I typically some sort of animal product about once a week.

Among so many other benefits, changing diets literally cured my depression. That's my biggest reason to not go back to how I was eating.

>> No.10202410

>>10202397
I doubt you eat nothing but meat.
>>10202373
nah, and they're a bit too heavy handed imo, but they often provoke people

>> No.10202419

>>10202410
>here are my arguments
>they're not meant to be real arguments I'm just posting them to provoke people
:^)

>> No.10202494

>>10201252
sounds pretty chickenist you cowist bastard.

>> No.10202502

Do vegans flush the toilet? There are 2 trillion microorganisms living in the average adult's colon. Heartless.

>> No.10202506

>>10202419
>>10196069
I already linked my post though. I'll point you in the right direction a fourth time.

>> No.10202521

>>10202506
You linked to an MS paint comic.

>> No.10202524

I knew a girl who one day told me she was going to 'try' going vegan for a month. The very next day she was shitposting desperate vegan rationalization on facebook

>> No.10202536

>>10202502
Do carnists eat babies? There's plenty of delicious meat on them, and human flesh is in excess supply. Hypocrites.

>> No.10202552

>>10202536
Yeah but humans are sentient

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>>10202536

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Can these people eat jellyfish?

>> No.10202586

>>10202521
The post I linked to doesn't have any picture attached. Here I'll do it a fifth time for you.
_________
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>10196069 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

>> No.10202594

>>10202586
>that
>argument
That's an opinion you abnormal cum flatulist

>> No.10202632

>>10202268
>we need clothes and smart phones more than we need hamburgers
You can fuck off back to the woods eat berries and cover yourself with leafs and no one will bat an eye.Also if you actually believe sweatshop helps anyone except their corrupt government then that soy and tofu really rot away last bit of your small brain!
>Also it's ludicrous to hold every single citizen of a country ultimately responsible for what its government does.
I sure as shit can hold "killing is bad" vegan fags like you up to that standart.If you claim i'm responsible for death of some stupid cow 20 gorillion miles away from me i never met,then i sure as shit claim you are responsible for death of little Ishmail in yemen.Death of that cow gave me delicious carl's jr double western bacon cheeseburger and barbecue ribs.What did death of little Ishmail gave to you?

>> No.10202673

>>10202594
I'll simplify it for you.
P1: Eating meat is bad for the environment
P2: Doing what's bad for the environment is immoral

C: Eating meat is immoral

You may disagree, but if you're going to claim it's not an argument and therefore not worth addressing, then you'll have to elaborate on why.
>>10202632
>You can fuck off back to the woods eat berries and cover yourself with leafs and no one will bat an eye
But anon, I was just justifying having the chinks make our clothes for us.
>if you actually believe sweatshop helps anyone
The free market reforms that brought these sweatshops into existence lifted like 600 million people out of poverty, anon. What do you think would happen to the Chinese economy if we all stopped buying their shit and having cheap labour was no longer an advantage for them? It's ironic you accuse vegans of being smug when you'd rather pay 15k for an iphone just so you can feel good about yourself while the Chinese economy collapses.
>I sure as shit can hold "killing is bad" vegan fags like you up to that standart
The difference here is that one is an active choice, while the other is very hard to avoid. My income taxes are paid by my employer before I even get my wages, and most of that goes towards schools and hospitals and shit anyway. Meanwhile, you're not going to be thrown in jail for not eating a bacon cheeseburger.

>> No.10202683

>>10202536
>ynw be this much of a brainlet
feels good lads

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>>10202673
>P1: Eating meat is bad for the environment
>P2: Doing what's bad for the environment is immoral
Might as well go innawoods with that line of thought because everything you're doing is bad for the environment

>> No.10202734

>>10202709
Nirvana fallacy. That's like saying we should stop using cars because not all traffic accidents can be prevented.

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>>10202734
>I'm not ok with supporting an industry that kills non sentient animals for meat but I'm fine with supporting several that use slave labor

>> No.10202764

>>10202673
That's just an argument against industrial farming practices, not against eating meat overall.

>> No.10202767

>>10202578
>Veganism is a way of living which seeks to exclude, as far as is possible and practicable, all forms of exploitation of, and cruelty to, animals for food, clothing or any other purpose

That is the stated mission of veganism, and according to it, there’s a BUNCH of animal products vegans can eat. Any animal without a central nervous system is fair game. Any animal product that can be obtained ethically, like milk and eggs, is vegan when so harvested. And honey just IS ethical, there’s no ‘if’.

There’s an unstated mission of veganism, though, and that’s point-scoring. When there are no normal people around, vegans will start attacking each other. So, even though they could eat jellyfish, they won’t - it’d make them easier targets.

>> No.10202819

>>10202745
What non-sentient animals are we talking about? Because pigs and cows and such are no doubt sentient. As for sweatshops I've already explained why they're a necessary evil. Also I don't really care about chinks, but my argument doesn't concern them. The case for eating less meat is not contingent upon how we treat Chinese factory workers.
>>10202764
Good you're actually trying to engage with the points being presented. I'd argue that since animal agriculture is such a large part of human effect on climate change, we ought to advocate for people to eat less meat across the board. We could perhaps reduce it to 5-10% of what it is now, and have that meat come from better sources. Industrial or not it really is a waste of resources, and in a society where so much meat is eaten, I feel where the meat comes from is a minor issue compared to the fact that we eat way too much of it.

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>>10202819
>Also I don't really care about chinks
>literally placing the lives of farm animals above humans

>> No.10202890

>>10202834
It's not that simple, anon. China is dependent on exports for their economy to grow, and we're dependent on their cheap labour in order to get cheap stuff. There's a lot of suffering involved, but in the end both parties are better off as living standards keep rising and cheaper products are made available. But we're not dependent on eating meat in the same way. If we slaughter say 50% less animals, they wouldn't mind, and we would be better off for it, but if China's exports fell by 50% that would be catastrophic for them, and would ultimately cause a lot more suffering. It's not an either or situation anyway, so it's hardly relevant.

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>>10202673
>>10202819
>P1: Eating meat is bad for the environment
>P2: Doing what's bad for the environment is immoral
>C: Eating meat is immoral
>climate change
Well look at it this way
>having world controlled by muslims,jews and niggers is bad
>sooner the world is destroyed by climate change is less chance of world controlled by muslims,jews and niggers
>climate change is good
Also
>meat industries is responsible for climate change
>chink factories and agricultural farms are not
You're a fucking retard!
Also
>not buying chink made iphones will trow million of people into poverty
>bankrupting meat industry somehow won't
Again you're a fucking retard!

>> No.10203066

>>10203008
>>meat industries is responsible for climate change
>>chink factories and agricultural farms are not
You have a point. We should probably consume less overall, though animal agriculture is worse by far in this case. And eating less meat would mean less farming, so I'm not sure what point you're trying to make there.
>>not buying chink made iphones will trow million of people into poverty
>>bankrupting meat industry somehow won't
You sound like one of those people who were worried cars were going to put horse breeders out of a job. Those factory jobs are eventually gonna go away as well, but not because we will stop using electronics. Not all jobs are going to be around forever, anon, either because of technology or because we change what we consume.

>> No.10203643

>>10201414
They ask if something has dairy or eggs in it. They don't say "I'M VEGAN BTW"

>> No.10203663

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63NNuG-6-hQ

>> No.10204060

>>10203643
But they do actually

>> No.10204068

>>10204060
Never at the place I've worked at for years. I specifically said in my experience it never happened.

>> No.10204316

>>10204068
They must smell that you are a vegan as well then because when the see me, they feel they have to let me in on the big secret ASAP

>> No.10206260

>All this debate with no scepticism over the premise

Vegans generally don't tell you how long they've been vegan as soon as you meet them. To be honest, all of the vegans I've known haven't told me at all the first time I met them.

>> No.10206281

>>10193395
how's ESL class?

>> No.10206373

>>10204316
>Work in the food service industry
>Complain about customers telling you about their specific named and well know food service preferences so you can recommend them what to eat or help them order something

Anon please

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>>10200636
You can't have a free market with out regulations keeping it free.

Your ideological position is literally retarded:
>Market manipulation is fine in a free market.
>Cost cutting short cuts at the expense of the safety of workers or customers is perfectly fine because people can buy elsewhere.

People still buy iPhones dickhead.
Ancaps are as retarded as their Red faction counterparts.

>> No.10206472

>>10202745
I can reasonably affect one industry but not the other. That doesn't mean I'm ok with either.
>carnivore's can into logic

>> No.10206483

There are probably way more "why are vegans so intrusive, obnoxious and arrogant" posts than actual vegan posts. And I've never met one of those in real life.

>> No.10206493

>>10192947
>Ok I understand why its important that vegans let you know they are vegan as soon as you meet them
In my experience they're often reluctant to say it unless the topic of food comes up because they're scared of being judged.

>> No.10206501

>>10195895
>testosterone
>lowers IQ and increases chance of violent crime if too high
>implying it should be as high as possible

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>>10196622

>> No.10206526

>>10195895
>>10196053

The test is of little use, which is why it's hardly ever used in a clinical setting. Buzzfeed thought it was fun to do so they did it. In reality, your testosterone varies wildly throughout the day, and only if you are getting consistently and significantly low or high figures is there a problem.

The results there are not at all unusual, and if you got similar results it certainly wouldn't be anything to worry about.

>> No.10206852

>>10206373
Do you really have no idea what a pain in the ass it is to wait on vegans.
Nothing in our restaurant was meatless.
The soups all had chicken stock, there was basically just plain salad.
Vegans should not go out with normal people

>> No.10206919

>>10206852
Seems like that's your failure as a restaurant rather than anything else.

>> No.10206933

>>10206919
Restaurants are not a public service , they exist to make money.
In many markets , catering to vegans is just an unnecessary hassle that wastes the kitchens valuable time.
Those vegans should just be turned away

>> No.10206942

>>10206933
If you are incapable of catering to vegans, then you are a failure as a chef. Anyone can just churn out the same food they've made a million times. Catering to requirements such as veganism is an actual challenge.

I bet most of /ck/ could cook a decent vegan meal if we tried. But a professional restaurant got butthurt about doing it? You should be ashamed to even post that story.

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>>10206942
>>10206942
Being a chef is about making money , taking time away from easier customers to custom create something special for a vegan is a waste of time.
Why would they want to do that? Just to show off skills?

>> No.10207700

>>10193500
you just told everyone here you're a vegan even though no one explicitly asked

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>>10206472
>I can reasonably affect one industry but not the other.
>a few million people (at max) not spending money on a product vs billions of people who do
Also eating meat isn't an identity, it's something that normal people do and no amount of labeling normal people will change the fact that you're an aberration and a very insignificant minority with no real power.

>> No.10207767

>>10192947
They should be forced to wear badges with little broccoli patches sewn on so that we know what to eat when we run out of other meats.

>> No.10207768

>>10193270
I think it's mainly newer vegans that are annoying as fuck and most vegans don't make it so there's a large proportion of new vegans. my dads gf has been vegan for 1+ year now and she was fucking intolerable in the beginning. just recently shes started to chill the hell out

>> No.10207783

If I cum on qtpa2t vegan grils' food, is it still vegan? asking for a friend or something

>> No.10207789

>>10207768
Just had a guy tell me he is an 11 year vegan after I failed to comment on his vegan tattoo he kept flashing.

>> No.10207791

>>10206942
Vegans don’t care how food tastes. A real chef disregards them, the art would be wasted on them.

>> No.10207885

>>10207733
>hurr durr only millions of people do this
Each person is 1 less animal dead and tortured. And how can the remaining billions every be convinced to change if no-one starts? Society doesn't change overnight, it has to start somewhere. I'm on the right side of history, up here on the moral highground.

>> No.10207903

>>10207733
That's what they used to say about feminists.

>> No.10207905

>>10207885
>convinced to change
Ahahaha. You think that people are going to become vegan en-masse, don't you? Poor deluded dumpling. People are too conscious of their health to become one of you malnourished plebs.
All of our ancestors ate meat for millions of years. Your body is built to eat meat. It cannot be as healthy without it as it otherwise could. No amount of screaming that this is wrong will change that. Go tear apart some tofu with those K9's of yours.

>> No.10207918

>>10207905
Our ancestors have eaten shit for years too, feel free to freshen your breath, retard

>your body is built to eat meat
Herbivores are not built to eat meat

>> No.10207938

>>10207918
I've no desire to eat shit, but if our ancestors had done so for millions of years, then like it or not it'd be healthier for you to do so now. To omit shit I can understand if you're a hetero male, which I doubt you are so tuck in, but to omit meat too because you're such a pretentious fairy is totally unnecessary and altogether silly. You're very silly. You should stop being so silly.

>> No.10207947

>>10207938
>they've done the actions for millions of years, then like it or not it'd be healthier for you to do so now

Wow, that's a steel strong completely flawless argument! Devoid of any biological or historical perspective! Foolproof!

Fucking retard.

>pretentious

>as he tips his fedora whiteknighting eating meat like a fat retarded fuck

How about you do what our ancestors did for millions of years and go fight in a war? That's really smart and beneficial!

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>>10207885
>Each person is 1 less animal dead and tortured.
You don't have any understanding of how markets and retail work. Places like Walmart buy goods from the manufacturer/distributor in bulk which they then price and sell to the public. A 1.2% fluctuation (at best) in sales isn't going to stop them from buying bulk produce. The only way your life could have any real meaning and impact would have been if you got in to bioscience at an early age and spent your life trying to create a cheaper more efficient lab grown meat, but you've only been in this for the folk identity from the start.

>> No.10207953

>>10207905
>>10207918
Both retarded.

>> No.10207968

>>10207947
>Wow, that's a steel strong completely flawless argument!
I know. And your insistence that you know better than evolution what should fuel you, is altogether very very silly, and you should stop saying silly and embarrassing things.

>> No.10207971

>>10207968
So follow your evolution like our most brilliant man, Sir Isaac Newton, and stab out your own eyeball you obtuse fucking retard

>> No.10208016

>>10207905
>No amount of screaming that this is wrong will change that.
The only one screaming is you, about how other people are screaming. People will definitely stop eating meat at the rate they do now, for lots of reasons. A) It's unethical. B) It's extremely bad for the environment. C) Population growth makes it unsustainable. D) Science keeps improving and better replacements are constantly being made.

Again, it's good for the idea that this is wrong to be out there, that way people can towards righting it. Solutions don't come from a vacuum after all.

>> No.10208021

>>10207949
>the only thing that affects markets is strict supply and demand
We used to feed skim milk to prisoners, it was considered that disgusting. Now people pay a premium to drink it. Sure there's a question of supply and demand, but there's also the question of what informs the demand? That has many factors, and public perception is certainly one of them. Lots of people who eat meat aren't happy about it, that's step one.

>> No.10208022

>>10208016
So shrill. You are such a shrill little bitch. I am going to eat as much meat as I can fit in my stomach for the rest of the week and it's all because of you. There's nothing you can do about it.

>> No.10208029

>>10208021
>but there's also the question of what informs the demand?
Not you people :^)

>> No.10208118

>>10208022
>being this assmad
You can eat all the meat you like, it doesn't mean it's not bad for the world, and yourself.

>>10208029
The ever growing demand for alternatives begs to differ.

>> No.10208147

Poor vegans, they're the least significant of all whiney extremists. So easy to laugh off and ignore unlike faggots, antifaggots, right and left wing extremists, religious extremists and so on. Food extremists are adorable.

>> No.10208208

>>10208118
>The ever growing demand for alternatives begs to differ.
Vegan communities aren't the real world

>> No.10208405

>>10195895
Why do meatcucks post this? Everyone on that picture is a fucking meatcuck. No one of them eats tofu. You are only making meatcucks look more like idiots.

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>> No.10208454

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPW3rbqWNu4

lol vegcucks.

>> No.10208459

>>10208454
Oh and this.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Vegetarianism-Explained-Making-Informed-Decision/dp/0954852060
This Dr saved my life when I was diagnosed with a potentially fatal disease, so don't run screaming from the facts, read the book first.