/ck/ - Food & Cooking

Maybe millenials have started growing their own food to avoid the Monsanto crap at the supermarkets.

costco exists now

>>10134373

Get rid of social media, main stream media, the internet, television, Hollywood, and radio.

>>10134385
This desu. Myself and several people I know started growing herbs, vegetables, and cow plants to sustain ourselves.

>>10134373
I'm more concerned about worthless fake news media like your pic.

NOOOOO

>>10134402
Marmalade is pretty good.
>t. Millennial

The answer is that millenials are poor and hungry.

>>10134395
You can grow cows from plants???

>>10134373
don't worry, communists run out of food.

>>10134402
I bought marmalade after watching the Paddington movies. Good stuff.

You've gone too far.

>>10134395
Hand plants work really well if you live by a shitty gas station

How do they even come up with this shit?

Millennials killing food is exactly why Gen Z is stuck eating Tide pods.

>>10134429
Indeed.

>>10134395
but you gotta be in the right social circles and know the right people to get the best seeds. there's like this whole underground nutrional black market.
this generation have seen how unhealthy their parents were from being fed crap that made for profit by the boomers.
vive la food revolution.

>>10134385

we just don't have any money and what little we do have goes to booze, drugs and cool shoes

>>10134415
Did you not know?

>>10134373
Why are there so many millenial hate threads on /ck/? Millenials are 18-34. Are most of you faggots 40+ or some shit? Jesus christ

>>10134541
>Feb 2018
>Millenials are 18-34.

>>10134541
>why hate?
because millenials somehow combined the worst of all previous generations into the horrorshow we see before us today.

whoever coined the term millennial should be gassed

>>10134551
I think most 4channers are using "millennial" more correctly than researchers, to describe Generation Y (the generation actually born at or after the millennium).

What the fuck they were thinking naming the next few years after Gen X, Millennial, is beyond me. But to answer his question, 4chan is just hating the post-2000 social media children that seem to have flooded the site.

>>10134395
can i grow herbs inside? like some kind of sketchy, legal weed dealer?

>>10134585
>Hey man, you got the shit?
>Man, what chu need, I got cilantro, basil, and some premo fuckin marjoram.

>>10134576
Isn't that Gen Z?
I thought millenials were like 85-99 babies?

>>10134593
You're right, I don't think they use the term Gen Y.

I'm just saying 4chan misuses the term "millennial", though I feel it's more accurate.

>>10134606
i consider a millenial to be someone born in the current millenium. but the wikipedia definition is different and covers previous generations. probably edited by a boomer because all they want to do is create confusion and make profit.

>>10134614

It's not the internet definition, but when I think Millennials I think kids who grew up with smart phones being ubiquitous, or at least had them in high school. That's a completely different generation from people born in the mid-80's.

>>10134614
You know it's funny. The returning war heroes are often touted as the "greatest generation" when they may actually be the worst; because they created the hellspawn that are the boomers.

>>10134385
>Monsanto
>crap
Begone hippie

isn't it really obvious that they're getting more take away food?

>>10134477
Seems as if you're just too dumb to understand that

>>10134576
>What the fuck they were thinking naming the next few years after Gen X, Millennial, is beyond me
People who became adults around the millenial

>>10134585
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC5zdi4KM3ewwfYMNo_KnU0A/videos

>>10134576
The definition is all over the place. Don't bother fixing this shit. Nobody bothers to specify the age range anyway when they talk about those.

I'd be happy to see "do Americans really..." replaced with "do millennials really..." but since 99% of "do Americans really..." posters are obsessed Americans talking about their favourite subject (ie. America) then it's never likely to happen.

We are shopping for fewer groceries because we are shopping for just ourselves, not an entire family. We are dining out less because we don't make that much money. Also, we'd rather not die of heart disease, so cutting back on how much we consume might not be a bad thing.

>>10134385
GMO is outlawed in my country. Now what.

>>10134551
This. They are basically a poorer and more retarded version of boomers.
Boomers are pricks but they are not ao retarded pricks. The reason why many of them are not dying so quickly (at least in Western Europe) is because they actually grew up eating excellent food and still eat better than millenials (less processed crap, fresher food etc).

>>10134393
This.

Also, the whining about millennials is old. If you aren't a millennial you either aren't old enough to be posting on this site or beyond the age that you should still be here. Gen Z is going to be way worse with this trend crap since their entire life literally exists on the internet.

>>10135163
You millennials just don't understand. This is what the entire internet used to be like before you trashed it with your social media. If anything, you're too young to be here. This is our last refuge.

>>10134373
memes aside, what is the actual explanation here? how is my generation eating out less, shopping less, and still fat as hell?

>>10135203
Drinking their meme food.

>>10135198
This site was always a refuge for social outcasts who don't give a fuck about social media, you oldfags and children have shit it up by making everything serious-business. This site used to be fun before you shitheads staggered over here to whine. Fucking newfag grandpa.

>>10134385
I have quite a few friends doing this. My brother and I just bought a pig from one of the local farms near us. There are tons of alternatives we can take advantage of now.

>>10135210
I have been on this site since 2006 and it has changed quite a lot. Maybe not so much for some of the slower boards but the others are much more tamed and politically correct now. And by that I don’t always mean posting baby fuck from that manga or some guy shoving his dick into a chocolate santa.

>>10135219
Been on this site for the same amount of time. I agree that it's changed a lot, but all it's become at this point is people whining about trends and how they're destroying our culture. Who cares? I don't want to talk about trends, I don't care even if they are stupid. I'm tired of every other post being "waaahhh millennials like something!"

>>10135224
People are simply more and more whiny and ironically enough, use this site just like an anonymous social media site. I might actually miss the days of guys shoving their dick into chocolate santa “for the lulz” after a dozen of “do it faggot”. I still come here because it still has less faggotry than anywhere else and that’s how shit the internet is anyway.
>inb4 you’re whining too
Just stating what’s going on.

>>10135241
It's kinda depressing how nobody does anything for fun anymore. Everything seems so bitter anymore and even when people are doing things it seems more like they're doing it to upset people who have different opinions then them. I wish things could just be fun to be fun without some ulterior agenda.

>>10135256
>Everything seems so bitter
because the internet used to be a boys club full of porn and funposting but then came social media and with it came women and their opinions, with feelings and emojis.

fuck women.

fuck em right in the pussy..

>>10135210
>This site was always a refuge for social outcasts
Correct'ish.
>you oldfags and children have shit it up by making everything serious-business
Please tell me you're misusing oldfag and don't think the original 4channers are ruining 4chan.

>>10135388
I was using it to represent older people. I take it back now cause he was a pretty cool guy.

>>10134373
>millennials aren’t all fat
Well at least they are doing something right...

>>10135393
Its one extreme for another

You ever see a modern teen couple? Both the guy and girl look like skeletons

>>10135397
So? Skinny people are still better than fat people.

>>10135403
Yes but it still looks weird, and all it takes is one guy who lifts a little bit to take down 10 of these modern males. Skinnyfat is a good in between if you arent going to bother with exercising. Lanky ass sticks that break in the wind dont look good

>>10135403
There’s healthy skinny and unhealthy skinny.
Unhealthy skinny may not be as bad as obesity but neither do these people live long.

>>10135397
Those are the ones that go out in public. The others are just like every other generation's shut-ins; only it's worse thanks to social media. They have a synthetic interaction with the world so they never have to get off their rolls.

Shit makes video gaming and forum addiction look like an evening beer; these kids are on heroin completely detached from reality.

>>10135408
Yes, but they aren’t disgusting to look at, don’t stink, and don’t spill over into my airplane seat. I don’t care about them being healthy or unhealthy, I just know that fat people make my life hell in ways skinny people never could.

>>10135256
Of course people still do things for fun's sake. I know I do. Maybe you're just looking at the wrong things, in the wrong places. Or maybe you're just projecting or something. Sounds like you're taking the social media world a little too seriously.

>>10134541
>didn't have Internet until College
>no-one had mobile phones (flip phones) until College
>don't really understand or give a fuck about texting or social media
>had typewriters in highschool
>been working since age 12
I'm 33 and I have absolutely nothing in common with actual Millennials. I'd argue the oldest Millennials are just turning 30.

>>10134625
This.

>>10135414
I have no problem with "fat" people. But unclean and morbidly obese people need to be hospitalized.

It actually destroys EVERY organ simultaneously. It even impedes brain function, though there's something mentally wrong with you if you consume enough to feed 12 people a day. And you're a fucking burden on others if you can't fit through a door.

>>10135154
now you contribute to starvation, and probably suffer from it in a decade

>>10134541
You can be a millennial and still hate millennials in general.

>>10135466

How the fuck did humans survive for millions of years without McSanto™?

>>10135439
You're an actual millennial tho

>>10135439
Also your high school must have been fucking broke to have type writers in the late 90s early 2000s

>>10135482
by not being 8 billion

>>10134541
It's just senior citizens doing what they've done for ages, complain about kids these days.

>'What even is a millennial?'
>'LOL oldfags'
>'I-I'm not like all the OTHER millennials, grrrr, my peers make me so angry!'

>>10135482
A lot of them died of malnutrition/starvation...

>>10135508
you forgot REEEE BOOMERS REEEE I HATE YOUR GUTS MOMMY BABY WANT MILKY

and then some incoherent rage about how I'm not a video game designer because of the social justice warlords

>>10135520
I'd classify the first one as falling under the 'lol oldfags' umbrella, but good point on the second one.

>>10135520
Say hello to the Tin Man and Dorothy for me

Are millennials just not as fat as boomers?

>>10135665
Pretty much

>>10135210
4chan is literally social media. This is Facebook for fuck heads.

>>10135686
No 4chan is antisocial media.

>>10135780
This.

>>10134541
I'm almost 50, and well aware that makes me an outlier here. I'm on the old side of Gen X. As far as food goes I like a lot of what the millennials are doing. Sure, the whole social media and smartphone obsession bugs me, and their conformity and general lack of lasciviousness creeps me out. But I think they're on point when it comes to food. Their rejection of Boomer mass produced mediocrity is a point in their favor. So is their embrace of DIY and artisanal foods. Sure, the instagram shit is silly, but I'd still rather eat what the millennals eat over boomer crap.

>>10135203
Fructose (see Robert Lustig video about sugar (AND metabolisation of sugars!)).

>>10135780
>Social media for anti-social people.

>2018
>Falling for the culinary jew

>>10134373
both those reports may be accurate. i am working on growing more than 50% of my food using aquaponics, automation and solar power. i will have my system setup to a place where i just have to plant once a year and no labor from there but harvest. growing fodder for bunnies soon for meat.

even dutch bucket gardening means you just have to arse yourself to water your plants once a month. why buy food?

>>10135203
Two poorly conducted surveys with different sample sizes and/or demographic spreads produced two results that contradict each other and someone made a clickbait article about it.
Most of these studies and surveys are conducted by marketers and not scientists so they can make the results say pretty much whatever they want, then they get passed on to blogs and shitty clickbait sites to generate ad revenue because everyone loves an inflammatory headline but doesn't give an actual fuck what the story says.

>>10134373
wait, i dont get this.
arent millennials the one who always make those food videos you see on youtube? shit like "tasty" video series.

also, arent they the ones responsible for those hipster like food concoctions like the flaming hot cheetos milkshake?

>>10136678
This guy gets it

>Boomers eat too much and get fat
>Gen Xers eat too much and get fat
>Millennials don't eat as much and don't get as fat
>Boomers and Xers lose their shit "OMG their not eating enough!!!!!!"
Also Millennials are a lot more conscious about food waste as well. So maybe their buying less food because they're not throwing as much of it away.

>>10134373
I do buy groceries, but I don't buy to the extent that my parents did. My mom would always fill the basket with junk like frozen dinners, dried box meals, and the like. Cereal was always a staple too. I never buy cereal because when I eat breakfast I would much rather something hearty, like an omelet or breakfast burrito/sandwich. Typically I will buy meats and produce that are on sale, freeze the meats, utilize the produce before it goes bad. Also dried legumes, rice, and pasta are always in my pantry. Canned tomatoes are a must as well because fuck jarred pasta sauce, that shit sucks.

As far as dining out goes, it's seldom for me. I purposefully avoid "going out" as any kind of celebration and just prefer to buy some nice meat/seafood and cook it at home. Besides, I have never had a steak cooked the way I like it from a restaurant. I enjoy blue rare.

>>10136695
It's too bad that you can't interpret an entire article's information just from a poorly written headline.
Or can you?

>>10136715
Ding ding ding!
Younger people don't make mass trips to grocery warehouse and shove their freezers full of TV dinners and boxed junk food.
They buy as they need and don't waste excess food.
It's not that they don't buy enough food, it's that the two previous generations habitually bought too much food.

>>10136711
This. Boomers buy way to much fucking shit when they go shopping when 90% of it is frozen or snacks. They fill their fridges and pantry to the brim and I have yet to meet a boomer that didn't own an equally stuffed deep-freezer.

I eat out a few times a week, and the rest of the time I go shopping for a few days meals at a time and otherwise only buy enough to replenish our stores of the basic.

>>10136482
I'm generally curious about your take on "conformity and lack of lasciviousness." Could you say some more about that?

>>10134432
What kind?

>>10136715
I think it also comes from boomers being too ignorant about the science of food entirely. They would much rather convenience (box dinners, frozen meals) as opposed to figuring out how to make something from scratch and even improve on it.

For example, I had tamales for the first time when I was like, 13. I asked my mom if she would make them sometime, and so she bought frozen tamales. They were alright, but not nearly as good as those from the mexican market. So, after I moved out, I went to that same mexican market, and bought the ingredients to make tamales; corn husks, masa, lard, and pork shoulder. It took a little trial and error to get the masa just right, but when I did, they came out perfect. To get to my point, I gave some to my mom. Her initial reaction was, "oh, what brand are these?"

We have drowned so much in the idea of "convenience" that the older generation has convinced itself that without it, some cuisines are impossible to make.

>>10134468
Oi nice reference

>>10136732
>the two previous generations habitually bought too much food
This.
My fridge has current staples for cooking like eggs and butter, fresh things for snacks and quick sandwiches such as lettuce and cheese, and whatever I plan on cooking in the next few days. Maybe a leftover pizza for a two days. A few frozen foods for easy cooking and frozen meat if it is on sale to use later that month.
I wish I could say my parents throw away about half of everything they buy but instead it stacks in the fridge to the point you can only use about 1/3 of each shelf and have to pile newer food on top of ancient shit. Every time I go over there I have to sort through fucking 4 containers of anything I would want to eat and throw 3 of them away. My dad will regularly use a small amount of a block of cheese then throw it in a ziplock bag but not bother to close it so it absorbs the taste of all the disgusting shit in the rest of the fridge and is unusable hours later, and put it in the back of the fridge and forget about it so just go buy another block a few days later.
Reee lads reeee.

>>10136715
This. I buy fresh produce for dirt cheap from the asian store for regular meals. On the rare occasion I dine out I'll make it something worthwhile like a tasting menu or something I can't easily make at home.

>>10136715
>>10136775
I like to go buy groceries regularly as I worked in a supermarket myself I know that stock gets rotated based on supply. Using this method I can save money on the basics and keep a varied diet.

>>10135163
Here's the problem though, a good chunk of millenials will be old enough to be on the site this year

>>10136832
I think your definition of millennials is a bit fucked, skeeter.

>>10136832
The vast majority of millennials have been old enough to be here for about a decade, botards.

>>10134501
(You) are the biggest faggot in this thread

>>10136797
This is disgusting true about the last few generations. Boomers were the first to have frozen foods en masse available to them and they never fucking let it go. Gen X's Achilles Heel are ready meal box dinners, although its something of an improvement because it utilizes some actual cooking.

Millinails for all their shitty memes and political flaws at least are the best generation when it comes to food appreciation and cooking skills since at least the Silent generations (and I'm inclined to shit on them for starting horrible trends with wartime austerity cooking)
>>10136826
It sounds cliche, but everyone has the mental image of a shopping list on a fridge with the basics. Eggs, Milk, Cheese, Bacon, Bread, ect. which is really 90% of all you need to buying outside of dinner ingredients, which I usually base off a day of the week for pork, chicken, fish, beef, and a wild card of duck or lamb when its worth buying and eating out/leftovers the other few days.
>>10136832
You are thinking of Gen Z aka Hitler Youth.

>>10134415
>1995+23
>not using cow beans

millennials were born between 1980 and 1995 /thread

the point of the word millennial is that you're coming of age around the year 2000 not that you're born near it

Most of the confusion and outrage over millennials stems from American boomers wrongly assuming that their way of life was normal when really it was very abnormal. Millennials are adapting their buying habits to the new economic factors that the boomers and Xers didn't have to deal with.

>>10136913
Well, they did have the 70s to deal with which was an economic quagmire, but half of them kept getting high and the other half swung (((fiscally conservative))) and started sending their wives to work for a double income while cattle-prodding Gen X into pushing tech harder to bring in 80s and 90s economic prosperity. All this while borrowing against future gens for benefits schemes that are already bankrupt and unique to their entitled asses.

>>10134373
Farm your own food. Trade with family, friends, neighbors, and farmer's market for food they farm that you don't farm. Don't eat out. Don't buy groceries from normal stores. See: >>>/out/1201253

>>10136715
I'm not a millennial, but I've been doing pretty much the same as you for two decades. I grew up with mom buying all kinds of garbage that I would never buy for myself. Just like the strip malls are full of restaurants I would never go to.
Part of why I like millennials is because they tend to approach food the way I do - buy ingredients and make it yourself instead of just buying crappy premade shit.
>>10136794
>conformity and lack of lasciviousness.
Even though the AIDS crisis put a little damper on it my generation did embrace the sex, drugs and rock and roll ethos to some degree. And that was a lot easier when everyone didn't have a phone in their pocket and the ability to upload a record of your misbehavior to social media in real time. And with no record of your opinions about everything available to any smartphone you had more room to disagree with your peers on politics or social issues. Today it seems most people are in lockstep with their peers, regardless of whether they lean left or right, and any dissent within those groups is seen as betrayal. They also seem content to have less sex with fewer partners than I had back in the 80's and 90's. And I didn't even consider my history along those lines much of an accomplishment compared to some of my friends. It just seems like social media has made young people cautious in a way I never felt I had to be when I was young. Which is why I'm here instead of on facebook with the rest of my peers.

>>10134373
I wish millennial women werent so overweight
My biggest issue with the generation

>>10137017
Oh God, my Mom was one of those boomers that would buy something JUST because it was on sale. She'd buy tons of shit we didn't want or need because it was a "good deal", that's why we had at least 3 untouched boxes of Cracklin' Oat Bran in our pantry at any given time.

>>10137064
Those kinds of products along with awful recipes using them printed in Good Housekeeping ruined my mother's cooking during my childhood. Now as an old woman she's back to doing everything from scratch using simple ingredients. I think the appeal of those products was they made it easy to feed fussy kids when they were hungry, instead of putting work into something that the little shits just turn their noses up at. My siblings were picky eaters who had long lists of foods they didn't like. Really stupid shit like onions and tomatoes. I think my mom bought so much crap food because they would at least eat it instead of picking through it to remove any obvious bits of vegetable matter.

>>10137107
My grandma still cooks like that. She is completely ruined. She actually is a bitter cunt towards me when I make something from scratch around her and mumbles about how not everyone has the time or money even though she does nothing else but stay at home and somehow spends hundreds on groceries a month to feed two people. My grandpa is super picky about not eating anything with flavor which also annoys me. Spoiled ass boomers.

My mother was Gen X and actually cooked basic things from scratch, usually just winging it based on what tasted good. Not an expert but definitely good enough growing up. If we didn't eat what was cooked we went hungry so the only food I really can't stand is olives.

>>10137129
I'm lucky in that my mom (now in her fucking 80's!) has some of that Boomer picky eater thing, but both her and my father are open to good food. So these days her cooking is much like mine, just more muted when it comes to bold flavors. She'll call me sometimes when she's winging it just to make sure she hasn't left out an important ingredient. Which is a pretty cute thing to have in your relationship with your aging mother. And like me she still cooks from scratch pretty much every day. But I still remember the dark days of my young childhood when she cooked like your grandma, and I definitely blame my picky bro and sis for it.

>>10137064
There's always like 3 packages of expired tortillas in my mom's fridge and never anything to use them with.

>>10134541
Jealousy obviously.

>>10137324
It's that the effects of millennials becoming culturally dominant are really starting to show, especially when it comes to food. Dreary casual sit down chains like Ruby Tuesday's are dying out. Sales of organic and artisanal foods are way up, while heavily processed convenience foods are falling out of fashion. McDonald's is desperately trying to promote the Big Mac to a generation that pretty much doesn't give a shit about it. Countless menu items are now designed to cause a stir on instagram. And those who actually cook are now more likely to do it from scratch than the Boomers or X'ers before them.

>>10137467
>Dreary casual sit down chains like Ruby Tuesday's are dying out.
If there's one thing I can take pride in as a millennial, it's the fact that shit like this and Applebee's will not exist within the next 10 years.

Now if only we could kill off fine dining. Anyone who pays $100 for a steak is out of their goddamn mind.

>>10134541
I'm gen z, nigger.

>>10134373

kek. gen z and millenials are the most intelligent and alpha generation we've had in a while, the last good generation was the silent generation that won ww2. boomers, gen y, and the rest of the faggots are low iq pussies. We even have our war, boomers existed in a time of peace and disgusting complacency

>>10137485
You should be proud. Those kind of restaurants are horrible. I doubt you'll ever kill fine dining, though. If you think an expensive steakhouse is fine dining I think you don't really know what you're talking about. People with a lot of money to spend are still going to be going to nice, exclusive places with deferential service and tasting menus. But only a few people can afford dinner at Eleven Madison Park, which is why Meyer opened Shake Shack. What you will see is more famous chefs/restaurateurs opening casual concepts for the rest of us. That you can take credit for.

What will millennials kill next?! communism?

>>10137517
>We even have our war, boomers existed in a time of peace
lulz

>>10137517
>peace and complacency
How can anyone be this fucking stupid?

>>10137517
>We even have our war, boomers existed in a time of peace and disgusting complacency
What.
I agree with you on the fuck boomers part though. They manage to be some of the most ignorant motherfuckers I deal with.

>>10134415

>>10137544
I'm talking about restaurants like Ruth's Chris, where the average tab is $100+ per person. Granted, I live in a flyover area where if the restaurants aren't mexican or asian, they're chains. Chain restaurants in general just shouldn't exist, as once the original idea becomes a franchise, the vision it was founded on is lost.

Maybe I'm being slightly melodramatic, but that's just how I feel. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

There is no food """""""culture"""""""", just food that was brought to different countries when the East Asians and Europeans were raping the rest of the world

>>10137559
>>10137571

> implying vietnam counts

lol, boomers hated on our own soldiers the entire time and the majority of them draft dodged and ran when their country needed them. Fucking embarassment of a generation. Not to mention they allowed the government to ruin the financial system, healthcare, and more. can't wait till those old dumb pussies die off

>>10137624
You are hilariously stupid.

>>10137650

enjoy your failing body old "man"

Stop pretending that you aren't a millennial on the board where 100% of the threads are about pre-made frat boy food.

>>10137663
Thank you, I needed a good laugh today.

>>10137594
>I'm talking about restaurants like Ruth's Chris
Yeah, that's not fine dining. That's just a steakhouse. Admittedly it's a chain steakhouse, but steakhouses have NEVER been cheap places to eat. They've always been places where rich men dropped large sums of money on big chunks of meat. The point of a steakhouse has always been conspicuous display of wealth and excess.
>Chain restaurants in general just shouldn't exist
I agree. But they will. I will enjoy watching the ones that serve expensive, mediocre food go down, though.
>>10137616
wtf are you talking about? Food is a huge part of culture. And of course it's shaped by history.

>>10134407
This. Rent keeps going up. Debt keeps getting deeper. Wages remain shit. There is no money for food luxury, only bare minimum.

>>10134385
Ain’t nothing wrong with GMOs, and the seeds you’re buying are most likely GMOs and owned by Monsanto or a similar corp. Keep “””educating””” yourself with Netflix documentaries and witch doctor David Wolfe on Facebook, ya knob

>>10134477
>bootstraps

>>10137809
Doesn't matter whether or not there's anything wrong with GMOs. Monsanto is an asshole of a company, and most of the stuff grown from their seeds is made into crap. Two good reasons to avoid GMOs regardless of whether or not they're actually safe to eat.

>>10137624
>fighting, dying to and/or killing poor farmers in a stinking jungle for corporate imperialist interests
looks like he fell for "the US is always the good guy" patriotism meme

>>10137856
Hard to believe people still fall for that one.

>>10137624
>draft dodged
B-but m-muh bone spur!

>>10137733
>Ruth's Chris
Rush, obese, whitetrash fatass Limbaugh's favorite restaurant. Millennials are smart enough to tank that shit.

>>10134546
Retard

>>10137926
Maybe so. But as long as there's rich white guys put off by the notion of a fine dining restaurant steakhouses will be where they go to make a show out of overpaying for a big piece of beef.

>>10135391
Oldfag means people who have been here since the first days of 4chan, as opposed to newfag which means people like you, newfag

>>10135414
Some extremely skinny people are more disgusting to look at than obese people, being gaunt and bony and a few days away from death

it's not contradictory. I buy bulk ingredients and cook my own food.

>>10134632
All the brave men fucking died in the war

>>10134632
That's because these newly minted members of the middle class wanted their kids to have it better than they did, and in the process raised a generation of spoiled suburban navel-gazers.

i thought the was for cocks not cooking

>>10134373
Millennials destroyed food culture as soon as the one of the fuckers first put sliced avocado on toast

>>10138215
Like pineapple, chicken, BBQ sauce or ranch dressing on pizza aren't FAR worse crimes? Come on.

>>10138215
What's so bad about this? I've never personally encountered this food item.

>>10134590
Lel

>>10134373
Are you a fucking journalist that ran out of ideas? Need more click-bait drivel for mom-circles on Facebook or something? I bet you call yourself a foodie, fuck off.

>>10134551
>less racist
>more accepting of faggots
>globally minded instead of nationally
>steeped in media supporting ethics above profit(not a market yet tho)
>access to all of human knowledge from young age
>zero tolerance policy schools seed deep distrust of authority from a young age

>These memes and cartoons aren't like the ones I grew up with
>eww young people

You can't, militant Islamic veganism will March in your streets soon faggot

>>10134390

winner winner

>>10135388
>Please tell me you're misusing oldfag and don't think the original 4channers are ruining 4chan.
I've always been curious what most people consider a newfag and an oldfag. Is it start date or amount of time on 4chan?
I've been coming here since early 07 and consider myself a middlefag I guess but fuck its been 11 years.

>>10135203
Food waste is more common when you have more expendable income. Bought a bag of spinach but only ate half? Oh well. Throw it out when it goes bad and buy some more. Couple of boxes of fancy rice in the pantry you'll get to eventually. Spices, pastas, beans, all that kind of stuff.

Compare to someone living paycheck to paycheck. They buy pasta, rice, eggs, or cheap convenience food and eat it all when they buy it. They're shopping less but possibly eating more.

>>10137809
>Lincoln is a shit company
>This is a good reason to avoid cars all together
What's it like actually being this dumb?

>>10138346
see you at the DSA baby

>>10137017
Thanks, that's in line with that I imagined you were saying. I'm sure there are some other factors in play beyond emerging technologies as well.

>>10138510
I've been coming here since 2005 and don't consider myself an oldfag, though I'm not a newfag.

>>10138510
I don't think there's an arbitrary date. I learned about 4chan through an obscure WC3 Custom Map that faded to porn and address back when there was a Japanese Zero on the homepage.

So much shit has happened over the years that I would describe oldfags as those that remember the time where we had to leave for several months due to "server maintenance", and split into several different imageboards, most of which no longer exist.

>>10138583
>I'm sure there are some other factors in play beyond emerging technologies as well.
Of course you're right. But as a dude about to turn 50 I can compare notes with 40- and 30-somethings and our experiences growing up were pretty similar. It's when I'm in a room full of teens and 20-somethings that the differences start to get really noticeable. And the biggest difference is that these folks had cellphones and social media accounts by the time they were in high school. How they are perceived on social media is actually important to them, That's a whole set of concerns I don't have in my life. And they're really sucked into their smartphones. Like to me there's a separation between online and real life that doesn't seem to exist for them. And I don't envy that.

>>10137809
>the seeds you’re buying are most likely GMOs and owned by Monsanto or a similar corp
see >>10134491
>but you gotta be in the right social circles and know the right people to get the best seeds. there's like this whole underground nutritional black market.

get out more

>>10134415
Sure you can and it's easy. Extracting the seeds from the mother cow is the hard part.

pic related.

THREADLY REMINDER THAT IF YOU WERE BORN ON OR AFTER THE YEAR 1982 THEN YOU ARE, IN FACT, A MILLENNIAL

>>10134576
You're thinking of gen Z

>>10134614
A millennial is someone who became a legal adult after the turn of the millennium, e.g. born between 1982 - 1999

>>10135439
>and I have absolutely nothing in common with actual Millennials

Except for the fact that you are an actual millennial and share a lot of life experiences with other, actual millennials

>>10135203
buying in bulk

>>10138881
*85

>>10138901
Nope. I'm this person >>10134614 but I've changed my mind and now I'm subscribing to this definition:
>>10134625
>when I think Millennials I think kids who grew up with smart phones being ubiquitous
This is a really good definition and it changes everything because in that context "millennial" isn't even a generational reference, but more of a cultural reference, and can cover a few different generations depending on the level of priviledge.
I don't really consider kids from third world countries to be 'millennials' despite being born in the timeframe that I used believe was the defining factor.

tldr; So basically it's a refernce to priviledge, rather than a generation.

Someone's gotta edit the wikipedia page!

>>10139295
also mobile phone posession implies immediate internet access. basically growing up with a world of information (and fap material) in the palm of their hands.

>>10139207
every-time I buy in bulk I pig out and end up eating 200$ of groceries in a week

>>10134415
>2018

>Still believing that meat comes from animals

You bought into the vegan meme bro.

>>10137552
If Boomers don't stop fucking things up then they will instead revive it.

Communism is what happens when you have a complacent decadent overclass who look down on the proles and choose to shit on them rather than try to fix their problems. The USSR would never have existed if not for the White Russians disgusting complacent debauchery. Of course Communism was even worse, but they could have prevented it from happening if they hadn't made revolution so damn appealing.

>>10136886
Nah, a large part of what defines a millennial is growing up with internet access and mobile phones. It's not like people age 30 and under.

>>10138749
Thanks, this is pretty insightful. Anything more you have to say would be appreciated.

>>10139207
buying in bulk is still buying the same quantity, tho.

i mean, what's the difference between buying a dozen eggs every twelve days, or one egg every day?

>>10139354
Sorry to break the bad news but you are a millennial too, whether you accept that or not

>>10138749
>Of course you're right. But as a dude about to turn 50 I can compare notes with 40- and 30-somethings and our experiences growing up were pretty similar. It's when I'm in a room full of teens and 20-somethings that the differences start to get really noticeable. And the biggest difference is that these folks had cellphones and social media accounts by the time they were in high school. How they are perceived on social media is actually important to them, That's a whole set of concerns I don't have in my life. And they're really sucked into their smartphones. Like to me there's a separation between online and real life that doesn't seem to exist for them. And I don't envy that.
I am 34 and eschew cell phones and social media. As a consequence, I feel like people under the age of maybe 22 or from a completely different generation, because of the reasons you mentioned.

I have no idea how they have the time or motivation to be on half a dozen social media platforms, constantly text, keep up-to-date with popular YouTube videos and memes etc. I just can't fathom the sheer amount of time and energy these vapid distractions use up.

I know every generation feels they were superior than the succeeding one, mostly due to nostalgia and a propensity to like what you are accustomed to. But this 24/7 connectivity and blur between online and IRL is bizarre. It is like one big social experiment, I wonder how these kids are going to turn out, especially when you add the sense of entitlement, ultra-sensitivity, and other neotenous attributes being encouraged these days.

>>10139354
There's a great deal of disagreement about this. There's a fairly strong argument to be made that generations are moving faster now than they used to because of the acceleration of technological development. Before you could reasonably say that the sort of technology you had when you were in high school would be more or less the same as the technology you had when you graduated college, but that wasn't the case for the Millenials.

So you could easily divide the Millenials into two groups. Basically, into early Millenials who grew up during the Dotcom boom and it's immediate aftermath, and the Millenials who grew up with the iPhone and facebook.

Neither group are that comparable to Gen X but they're pretty damn distinct from each other as well. The only problem is that you've then basically decided that a "Generation" is like eight years long.

>>10139379
Your grandparents thought the exact same thing about you and probably thought the energy you put into watching TV and then into using the internet was disturbing.

It IS a giant social experiment. Every generation is a giant social experiment. Sometimes it fucks people up, but you can't really prevent that. Those weird neotenous snowflakes are going to be in charge of the earth soon. And then they'll look at their kids and think the exact same thing you think about them.

>>10138346
>incessant narcissism
>chained to tracking devices
>love of socialism / communism
>soft as butter
>know it all syndrome with the wisdom of a gnat
>sex drive of my grandparents
for these reasons and many more

>>10138869
Why did they do that to the cow?

>>10139379
>I am 34 and eschew cell phones and social media.
You're behind the zeitgeist.
>>10139388
>The only problem is that you've then basically decided that a "Generation" is like eight years long.
True, and the earlier part of if seemed to have more fun than the later part. But most folks see it as longer than that.
>>10139396
>Those weird neotenous snowflakes are going to be in charge of the earth soon. And then they'll look at their kids and think the exact same thing you think about them.
This.

>>10139597
Passing generations of social failure off as progression is laughable. Just because technology is progressing as values decline has been a constant does not mean it is acceptable.

The further you continue down that road, the less independence the individual becomes, and the likelihood of catastrophe due to slow decay increases.

millennials backwards is slainnellim

slainn ellim

slainn (past tense of slay)
ellim (inate)

i mean it's just a coincedence , right? the rate of highschool massacres hasn't increased with millennials, have they?

Its a stealthy way of pointing out millenials are NEETS. Get in that coal mine and work you shits. I need another mercedes.

>>10139668

>>10134373
You can't stop us, it's already too late.

>>10139687
are millennials so poor that they can't afford new jeans when they holes in the old ones.

also, she must spend a lot of time on her knees. i'd like to meet her.

>>10139357
If you're younger than me my insights are out of touch with your peers. I'd just say figuring out a way to get paid for doing what you'd like to do anyways would be the best revenge. If you can. We can't all be videogame designers and rockatars. But at least try to hang out with people you like instead of just socializing online. That's more fulfilling.

Best I've got.

>>10139628
Says every generation, convinced that their parents were wrong and they are right.

Values aren't "Decaying" they're just changing. Young people don't like the things you like. They don't care about the things you care about. And they're not wrong to.

So it is. So it has been. So it shall be. Until the last human dies.

>>10134373
You're a baby watch this

>>10139628
>as values decline
Smells like the kind of Pat Robertson bullshit Frank Zappa was warning teenage me about back in the 80's. Fuck that shit.

>>10139703
>Millennials are killing Canada's tourist industry
Lol who the fuck wants to go to Canada besides slopes and ragheads? Personally I would rather go to Mexico for vacation for the fishing, the horseback riding, the inexpensive and plentiful cocaine. Maybe if you're lucky you'll witness a cartel shootout or a mutilated body hanging from an overpass.

>>10139728
Let's be real here and stop pretending like Canada isn't the one responsible for the dying tourism. Country in total decline and shit food scene.

>>10139701
>Values aren't "Decaying" they're just changing. Young people don't like the things you like. They don't care about the things you care about. And they're not wrong to.
All true.

>>10135029
>do Americans really obsess over America?
I’d be interested to see more “do millennial really...?” about millennials the world over. What scares me, is now you see the same Soros-style BS happening in the same way over the same topics all over the world.

>>10138869
Um excuse me what the fuck

>>10139456
>>10139756
You leave a port into the cow's digestive system so you can actively monitor it's gut biome and test it's metabolic activity and production.

They don't even care, they just walk around completely normally and don't even show any distress when you're reaching into their guts to grab some half-digested gunk to test.

IIRC there was actually a human who had a similar procedure done on him in the 19th century and that's where we learned a lot of what we know about human digestion.

>>10137784
>Millennials fall for "You need college to get a good job!" meme
>Spend $300k getting a useless degree millions of other people have because they expect if they do the bare minimum they'll get a job with their piece of paper
>Don't bother working or doing internships or networking cause they'd rather party instead of planning for the future
>Confused when they lose out on positions to more qualified candidates

Look at the data around college degrees in the US, specifically the ratio of liberal arts to STEM degrees and their associated salaries.

And then compare liberal art degrees and their associated salaries to trade certificates and their salaries.

>>10135163
>Gen Z is going to be way worse
They're shaping out to be an extremely conservative counter culture so I have high hopes for them to reverse the degenerative behavior of the millennials

>>10139828
>Didn't fall for the meme

>No debt, no paper

>Networked, worked, busted my ass instead of partying.

>Still fucking broke, no house, shit car, no girlfriend because job is shit and everything is expensive.

Fuck you. Whether you're an old man or just a lucky bastard, fuck you. There's no right answer to my life. There's no option you can just pick that's the right choice that will guarantee success, you just throw your fucking dice and hope they come up a number you like.

I'd sell my fucking left nut to make as much as my dad did doing the job he did straight out of high school. But that shit's gone and it's never coming back because why would anybody hire me when you can just hire three gooks for the same price?

>>10139845
This idea literally came from nowhere. There is no data on Gen Z which suggests anything of the kind. It's nothing more than republican wish-magic hoping that pepe memes and internet swastikas will translate to them winning elections in 2040.

>>10136629
Post your set up when it's done.

I've got 5 acres and dedicated 1 to farming with a green house attached to my barn, but since I'm in NW WA can't grow outside year round.

>>10138346
>>zero tolerance policy schools seed deep distrust of authority from a young age
Is this why millennials en masse are clamoring for big daddy govenment to dictate and control ever facet of our lives?

>>10139854
>Elections

Haha you have no fucking idea what is going on in the real world do you?

>>10139668
>the rate of highschool massacres hasn't increased with millennials, have they?
No, in fact per capita they've decreased.

Issue is there's more kids, more schools, and more media coverage so people say OMG IT HAPPENS ALL THE TIME but forget we're a country of 340+ million people composing hundreds of diverse subcultures across 3.8 million square miles.

>>10139717
Social values are real and as history shows are important to the success or failure of a community/country.

>>10139922
I blame the music, damn marylin manson faggot

>>10139853
I'm 27. Went to school to study business, after a semester worked out it's full of frat bros and pot heads looking for an easy degree, switched to computer science. Enlisted in the National Guard, spent my summers doing Guard shit or full time classes and spent one year in Iraq. Used GI Bill, Guard benefits (50% tuition), and my deployment pay. Applied for every scholarship I could qualify for. 4 years later graduated with a 3.7, work experience, and a clearance while my peers had anywhere from a 2.6-3.4, no experience, and insane debt. Was able to get a position with the state doing IT work for $60k a year, 2 years later went over to a private company focusing on cyber security for twice the income.

My younger sister went to school for business, dropped out after a year and became an EMT. Worked 60 hour weeks for $11/hr for 3 years, she just got her paramedic cert and got hired on by a fire department making $90k with a great schedule.

My younger brother never really gave a shit about school, liked working with stuff. After high school got a welding cert, did that for two years and started dabbling in automotive work. Two years ago he opened up his own shop outfitting expedition, off road, and emergency vehicles, making anywhere from $55-80k.

Yeah, the manufacturing jobs of the boomers are gone and they aren't coming back. But there's a million other niche markets opening. You just need to give enough of a shit to plan, look ahead, and make sacrifices.

We were raised from knee high that the world didn't owe us shit, that we'd be shit on constantly, that we had to take every advantage we could and never take anything for granted. You're absolutely right, there's no guaranteed path to success. But the current millennial plan of "lol I'll booze my way through a general education degree and get a cozy 9-5 six figures office job WAIT WAAA WHAT DO YOU MEAN IM THE SAME AS TWO MILLION OTHERS" isn't working out well.

>>10139853
HOWEVER that said I blame the boomers for the college meme, as well as the lie that "no college = you're stupid".

They set so many kids up for failure by putting them on the head and saying "get a degree you'll make 100k easy".

I still remember my mom lecturing me about how I had to "go to college to get a good job, you don't want to be an electrician or plumber do you?", while guys I went to school with are doing that and making easy six figures.

>>10139367
These studies only look at dollar amounts, not quantity of actual food.
Buying bulk is cheaper, so the dollar amount spent on food is lower.
Then some marketer looks at the dollar amount and thinks millennials are buying less food when really they're just buying cheaper food.

>>10139967
oh man this hits home, same thing goes for finding a gf.

>>10134373
entice them with cold brews and avocado toast

>>10139703
TBF the boomers had all the same complaints about us Gen-Xers, it's just that the internet has made it cheaper and easier to complain about millennials in mass media format.

>>10140007
Do you think kids without internt use to masturbate at young age? Like with playboy mags and shit?

>>10140007
Millenial here, having grown up on the internet with a smartphone in my hand I can tell you the whole fucking thing was a mistake.

If I went back, say 100 years and told them "In a century, every citizen will have a device capable of instant communication with anyone anywhere and access to the sum total of human knowledge". They would say "Wow, everyone must be so social, smart and informed on topics"

Now look around. My first act as supreme leader is going to be to destroy the internet, handheld communication via text and voice only.

>>10134373
How are they knowing what we are doing? Do they have drones watching our movements?

>>10140015
You know your grocery club discount card? The grocery stores use that to store a history of what you buy and then they sell that to big data collection firms who then crunch all the numbers to determine who is buying what and then they sell that data to marketing and advertising companies.

>>10140051
oh, I don't have one of them. I guess they think I don't eat with out it l e l

>>10140056
If you don't have one they don't even know who you are.

>>10140059
they think all millennial are the same so they think they know me.

>>10140065
Well yeah, that's how market research works. They can't interview every single individual person so they take group samples and extrapolate a larger trend from that.
It's not until news sites and bloggers get a hold of the info that it goes from "data shows that x% of people aged 20-25 prefer A over B" to "Millennials Hate B and are DESTROYING B Culture!!!!"

it seems to me that ever since the 2016 election cycle, corporate America has been on an anti-Millennial craze. If Millennials ate Oreos, people act as if though they're cookie monsters. If a Millennial says no to crack, people whine about them being goody-goody two-shoes destroying Latin American economies. If a Millennial is agnostic, he's called a heretic. If a Millennial turns down sex for hentai, he's called a NEET weeb. But Baby Boomers are "enlightened" for frying their brain cells on acid, cruising on motorcycles listening to hard rock, Gen X can rock baggy pants and blast grunge rock.

>>10140084
Why can't they just focus on immigrants coming in and how that destroys the culture.

>grandpa planted lemon and avocado tree ages ago
>enjoy free the bounty of nature
I honestly wish older people planted stuff early on, i'll be sure to do the same when I have a good place for it.

>>10140013
I used to beat off to the sears catalog and the softcore porn trailers on hbo and my dads old playboys. Shit was rough when I didn't have good internet.

>>10140111
repeating digits

>>10140118
oh yeah I remember that thanks for reminding me. Dem underwear and sometimes the swimsuit sections

>>10139967
Same
Mom pushed me to go to college and when I did she shit talked me nonstop about how my college is shit.
I shoulda just became a bus driver as soon as I finished high school. Could have been making bank doing jack shit.

>>10140124

>>10140126
My pappy makes 80k a year sitting in a break room watching tv for 8 hours a day. More if he actually wants to work.

>>10134432
did same but in 1996 when paddington cartoon was airing

>>10134373
You can't stop yourself from destroying your own penis by making faggoty threads.

>>10139295
>>10139306
Kill yourself

>>10139687
What a fun qt

>>10140124
me2 man

Tfw consider myself a millenial

One of the last ones.

>>10139986
When I walk through a supermarket I see more people carrying baskets than pushing trolleys.
Plus almost all supermarkets have been facelifted to remove some chasiers (for trolleys) and replaced with 12-items-or-less self checkout machines.

So I'd say the bulk buying myth is busted.

>>10139967
capitalism wins again.

>you must go to college!
>that'll be $400,000, please. don't forget to tip!

>>10139922
Do you use the same argument when the subject of crime in the black community is raised?

>>10140298
It's really fucking sickening how high college costs are.

It's even more sickening hearing older generations telling younger generations that they need to bend over the barrel and spend the rest of their life in debt because costs have changed. It's almost impossible to get a good education anymore without wealthy parents. Just getting an associates degree while working is goddamned horrifying now.

>>10138346