/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>10061681
how do you know if someone is a vegan?

>>10061681
>mfw I unironically agree with all of the bottom pics

>>10061681
Cooking a big, fat, juicy burger is justice in itself. Anything else is a waste of energy.

>>10061693
They'll let you know.

>>10061681
>purchase meat at store
parts of the animals are now mine.

>>10061745
I wonder, if you buy 2 halves of a rooster, do you own a rooster or the half of 2 roosters?

>>10061747
>who the fuck buys rooster?
two half roosters... odds are they are not the same carcass.

>>10061681
>It's ok if you respect the sanctity of life, but you should respect my right to kill babies

Checkmate vegan roasties

>>10061768
fuck this roastie meme. Literally ruined roast beef for me due to associations

Enjoy ur cholesterluls and sodium and saturated fat and grease and constipation

>>10061837
all topped with a terrible aftertaste you have to wash out asap or your breath will smell like a dirty asshole

I tried meat and it tasted all rubbery and greasy. Learn how to cook vegan for the best food ever.

I really fucking wish somebody told me the risks and dangers of eating a vegan diet all my life. At least the meat industry will tell you that eating bacon daily will eventually give you a heart attack, but fucking Monsanto and Big Aggra hide all their data and pretend that vegetarian diets are all 100% healthy.

BTW.. I've posted before. I was at stage 1, now stage 2 and deathly afraid of chemo...

> Long term vegetarian diet changes human DNA raising risk of cancer and heart disease

Long term vegetarianism can lead to genetic mutations which raise the risk of heart disease and cancer, scientists have found.

Populations who have had a primarily vegetarian diet for generations were found to be far more likely to carry DNA which makes them susceptible to inflammation.

Scientists in the US believe that the mutation occured to make it easier for vegetarians to absorb essential fatty acids from plants.

But it has the knock-on effect of boosting the production of arachidonic acid, which is linked to inflammatory disease and cancer. When coupled with a diet high in vegetable oils - such as sunflower oil - the mutated gene quickly turns fatty acids into dangerous arachidonic acid.

The finding may help explain previous research which found vegetarian populations are nearly 40 per cent more likely to suffer colorectal cancer than meat eaters, a finding that has puzzled doctors because eating red meat is known to raise the risk.

>>10061837
>>10061841
>>10061857
Told you guys, samefag vegan came here in fury and couldn't keep his composture thus posting furiously.

>>10061861
You beat me to it, I wanted to drop this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RyNmgSefNA4&

>>10061861
>vegetarian populations are nearly 40 per cent more likely to suffer colorectal cancer than meat eaters, a finding that has puzzled doctors because eating red meat is known to raise the risk.

Researchers from Cornell University in the US compared hundreds of genomes from a primarily vegetarian population in Pune, India to traditional meat-eating people in Kansas and found there was a significant genetic difference.

“Those whose ancestry derives from vegetarians are more likely to carry genetics that more rapidly metabolise plant fatty acids,” said Tom Brenna, Professor of Human Nutrition at Cornell.

“In such individuals, vegetable oils will be converted to the more pro-inflammatory arachidonic acid, increasing the risk for chronic inflammation that is implicated in the development of heart disease, and exacerbates cancer.

>major natural disaster
>all store shelves are cleaned out by people hoarding food
>vegan section completely untouched

>>10061837
>>10061841
>buying shitty meat
Do Americans really do this?

>>10061867
>fury
Nice try meat shill, but I didn't call meat-eaters terrible people just because they're used to eating meat. I just said that meat is shitty and honestly not worth it after being a vegan for 5 months.

>>10061880
>"do americans do this" meme
retards really do this

>>10061872
tl;dr you don't have any real evidence anyways
I could easily say this

"According to Yale, this guy doesn't know wtf he's talking about."

>>10061880
I bought fresh organic salmon from Whole Foods and it tasted like shit.
I also tried pizza and it tasted like shit.
Hell, even organic chicken from Trader Joe's tasted like shit.

>>10061884
Okay, maybe avoiding straight up flesh, but there is no way avoiding all animal products is "worth it".

OH fuck vegans BTFO!!!!!!

>>10061861
>The finding may help explain previous research which found vegetarian populations are nearly 40 per cent more likely to suffer colorectal cancer than meat eaters, a finding that has puzzled doctors because eating red meat is known to raise the risk.

Things that Monsanto doesn't want you to know.

>>10061874
Of the stuff there, what I have tried has all been fucking awful. Those field roasts have so many herbs in them it tastes like potpurri. The tempeh bacon, on the opposite end of the spectrum, has no flavor at all and tastes like you're consuming strips of mud. The "ground meat" all has this cloyingly awful flavor that even sticks out in a pot of chili. As for the "cheeses" you might as well eat a stick of margarine because the flavor profile is the same.

It's like, either stuff is overseasoned to oblivion, or not seasoned at all. There's no perfect middle ground with any of the products.

>>10061930
>OH fuck vegans BTFO!!!!!!

I had no idea vegans were such Racist shitbags.

Yes vegans, black people are just like pigs, chickens, & livestock.

Fuck you white people, always trying to tell other people how to live.

>>10061949
>Yes vegans, black people are just like pigs, chickens, & livestock.

Glad I'm not the only one that noticed that. That came off racist as fuck.

1. Cows, chickens, goats and pigs were all born to be eaten. They are mutant spawn from thousands of years of selective breeding.
2.Vegans don't care about animals they only care about being vegans so they can virtue signal to eachother.
3. Being vegan is unhealthy and unnatural

>>10061788
It made roast beef better for me, vaginas on the other hand...

>>10061954
>>10061949

I don't think you understand how analogies work...

>>10061861

My vegan GF was diagnosed with anemia, iron deficiency, and calcium deficiency. Her doctor literally told her to go back to eating a healthy 'balanced' diet if she wanted to be healthy again.

>>10061949
Mostly it's rich white people with a useless college degree and too much time on their hands stirring up shit to make themselves look good in comparison.
I, for one, welcome our computerized overlords, because even if we get wiped out by a paperclip maximizer it'll still be for a more sensible reason than the one produced by a bunch of hipster retards.

>>10061949
>I had no idea vegans were such Racist shitbags.
>Yes vegans, black people are just like pigs, chickens, & livestock.

Liberals always come off very unintentionally racist and ignorant. They're kind of like the rednecks of yesteryear, just re-branded.

>>10061972
>Mostly it's rich white people with a useless college degree and too much time on their hands

1000% this. Bored, sheltered white people with no purpose in life try to but their fucking noses into everybody elses' business. Their favorite thing is to tell others how "inferior" their way of life is.

>>10061768
good one

>>10061968
>I don't think you understand how analogies work...

I don't think you understand how my foot up your white faggot ass works. Mind your own fucking business.

>>10062006
>can't understand basic rhetoric
>can't understand basic ethics


so is it ok if I kill and eat you since you aren't as intelligent as regular people?

>>10062006

Fuck off nigger. This thread is for evolved people who are at one with nature. if your monkey brain can't process the benefits of eating healthy, then by all means, eat mcdonalds all day, like you always do.

>>10061910
>fresh organic salmon
Know how we know you've never gone grocery shopping for fish in your life and rely on mom bringing home tendies and fish sticks?

Veganism: The Last Bastion of White Racial Superiority & purity over obese niggers, chinks, & spics.

Bhuddhism brainwashed indian pussys don't count.

>>10062093
Dive in the Channel and never come up for air, Britbong scum. Some of us enjoy steak.

I hate going through the captcha so I don't post much anymore. But I knew a vegan who I empathized with where they just simply didn't want to be part of the food chain of pain, blood, and death. I can understand that.
That however, is not the way the world is.
This vegan definitely did try though. Extensive research, and had a doctor following them for years. Eventually the doctor told them they were stunting their own growth and healing, and they were doomed to die early unless they at least adopted a fish-eggs-milk diet. Adjusting back onto meats was extremely difficult for them as their gut flora and fauna were a mess due to having such a shit diet for so long.
It just simply cannot be done.

>>10061681
Stupid faggots have watered down ``rights'' to beyond meaningless.

>>10062154
I guess captcha has multiple benefits.

Tell that to the many athletes who have been healthy and vegan for decades, your friend is proof that their health will fail eventually.

>>10062190
your small sample size of a few star athletes are not evidence without further information on race and genetic background. The general population is incapable of being vegan.

>>10062225
wow, ur a fucking retard.

>It just simply cannot be done.

This was the argument I was refuting.

Any implication that the general population is capable of a healthy vegan life was spawned in your addled mind.

>>10062225

sample size is

>>10061898
>t. Vegan shill mad that his oh-so-perfect diet isn’t as amazing as it’s hyped up to be

>>10061747
Roosters taste like fucking cock. Hens are the only edilble ones really. Which is why males are killed when they hatch.

>>10062389
The best-tasting chicken is capon, the best of both sexes.

>>10062006
>pinnacle of nigger intelligence
kek. you are not the boss of me!

>>10061874
Meh, looks like there's some tofu and kimchi in there, and some shrooms next to that area.. I can make do I guess.

But yeah not touching that fake meat looking stuff.

>>10062049
But, I am "one " with nature, with every delicious creature I eat..

>>10061681

>>10062389
i bet

I can't complain really.
i eat a mushroom patty in my burgers because it tastes good and make a it nea, sometines i also use a bean patty and meat patty and mux it upt. I use tofu noodles for my home made meat sauce and use vegan chorizo in my charro beans to cut on the grease of which they already have a shit ton. why ate both parties in this comvo such cunts?

>>10061693
You don't, because on /ck/ you're a "vegan" if you don't autistically remove the lettuce from your burgers, so basically anyone who isn't a dysfunctional manchild is a "vegan"
>>10061874
>wat iz produce
>wut iz beans and rice
Ever notice how the most diehard carnists seem blissfully unaware that non-packaged food exists? No wonder you people get all hot and bothered over the right way to cook a steak, it's probably the most complex thing you've ever tried "cooking" other than throwing some hot pockets in the microwave (p.s. I do not own a microwave)

>human lives have the same value that animal lives
jesus christ not even injuns think this way

>>10061939
>Things that Monsanto doesn't want you to know.
I know you just do a shit and run so you'll never see this, but this statement doesn't make sense. Monsanto makes more money from a meat eater than a vegetarian and especially a vegan.

>>10062564
>why are both parties in this conversation such cunts?
Because you're wrong. A lot of Vegans tend to sit on a moral high horse screaming that meat = murder and other such things, leading to a widespread perception that all Vegans are cunts because hey guess what, people don't like other people telling them how they should be living their lives.

It's ok for a person to be Vegan, that's their life and their choice. It's NOT okay to be a raging cunt about it.

>>10061861
What type of cancer do you have?

Since you guys are so good at finding who are the vegans, am I a vegan?

>>10061874
I would give my left tit to have a vegan selection like that where I live fml

I think I could do vegetarian, but not vegan. And if I went vegetarian and still ate eggs and cheese, I wouldn't be able to live without feeling like a hypocrite. Since they're domesticated, it would be more cruel to free a cow after it became unable to produce milk than it would be to slaughter it and it's just not realistic to ask people to continue raising them for free, so in the grand scheme of things, I'm not really lowering suffering or resource use. How do I solve this dilemma?

>>10062616

>I don't wanna eat animal products.

>People go out of their way to talk shit to me about that.

Haha, nice meme guys really got my ass :^)

>>10061693
if they have that annoying high pitched voice they are either gay or vegan

>>10062616
Buy grass fed dairy and free range eggs. Happy animals produce better food.

>>10062609
Have you ever eaten a stand-alone vegetable without making loud gagging noises? Then yes. Yes, you are.

>>10061988
> Bored, sheltered white people with no purpose in life try to but their fucking noses into everybody elses' business. Their favorite thing is to tell others how "inferior" their way of life is.

Obnoxious white liberals need to off themselves. How is it that white vegans aren't punched in the face more often?

>>10062616
>it would be more cruel to free a cow after it became unable to produce milk
What? In the mass industry, old dairy cows are butchered. Even if they were "freed", who are you to judge that that's "more cruel" than slaughter?

>>10062578
if all you eat is beans and rice there is probably something wrong with your brain lol

>>10062641
Free-range is actually still pretty shit. You wanna look for pasture-raised meat, which you'll hardly find anywhere.

>>10062642
That woman is vegetarian though. For like 80% of her life she's only eaten cheesy potatoes. That's right, potatoes fried in vegetable oil amd usually shitty american cheese on them.>>10062651

>>10062660
I like it how your brain just breaks when you try to think of a vegetable and you start spouting incoherent nonsense

i don't mind vegans so long as they're not utter cunts about everything
i had a roommate named Sydney who was like this, i went out of my way to make vegan meals so she wouldn't be excluded and i learned a lot during that time
also it reinspired my love of tofu. goddamn seasoned panfried tofu is amazing

>>10062672
I don't think pasture raised chickens are a thing. Grass fed cow products are pasture raised.

>>10061681
Feel about as much remorse as a tiger feels when it kills a deer.

>>10062696
>who iz joel salatin

The closest thing I've met to a vegan is my ex-girlfriend, and the most vegan thing she ever did was she couldn't look outside because we had a deer gutted and hanging from a tree.

Veganism from what little I've observed, is something teenage girls do, but constantly cheat on because they can't stop eating chicken, then they grow out of it.

>>10062696
In the smaller towns near where I live (towns of 200 or so people) farmers will just let there chickens fucking wonder, it's annoying.

There was also a roaster in my town, that would crow at 4-6 am every single day.
I really hope someone finally caught it, and beat it to death with a blunt object.

>>10062723
If you fucks didn't kill and eat literally everything that moves with volition, some animal would have destroyed those scrawny ass chickens. What shithole do you live in, MS or AL?

>>10062723
Chickens wander around where I'm from too but I loved it. Chickens are awesome. Fuck I miss hawaii

>>10062779
Because America is the only country people live in

All four sound like reasonable positions tbhwy

>>10061681
>the animals are not yours
Bible says they are.
Prove me wrong.

>>10062815
the bible a shit provee me wrnog

>>10062675
>That woman is vegetarian though. For like 80% of her life she's only eaten cheesy potatoes.

Bullshit, I bet that bitch has eaten a couple of her neighbors, and maybe a fucking walrus or three.

>>10062824
>provee me wrong
Prove god doesnt exist.
Thats right...you cant

>>10062876
>God
I didn't imply god doesn't exist, just that your particular version of it is completely made up and shouldn't be taken seriously

>>10062642
I love brussel sprouts and could eat them cooked literally any way, but to give someone who hasn't eaten shit like that in years and years a BOILED brussel sprout is silly. I mean shit, she'd only eaten carbs and fat since she was a kid.

Not trying to defend picky eaters, but that's a dumb thing to try and start her on.

>>10062892
And yet here you are taking it seriously.
>atheists btfo
Checkmatr

>>10062965
>I didn't imply god doesn't exist
>atheists btfo
I want to believe you just wanted to meme and you're not really a retard

vegetarian actually sounds kind of appealing
it's the strict NO ANIMAL PRODUCTS EVER rule that locks you out of most classes of food, milk and eggs are in every fucking dish
I've never seen a healthy vegan person either.
Certainly not one that had their testosterone in a healthy range.

Is cum vegan? If it is not vegan than therefore sex for reasons other than procreation is non-vegan. Then also gays cannot be vegan as they cannot procreate

>>10061693
They look generally malnourished. Eyes are a big giveaway. Also not very “quick” witted.

>>10063067
>Also not very “quick” witted.
I mean...I eat meat, but I know people that eat meat and are dumb as fuck and slow too. I'm just saying.

>>10061681
What the fuck now I love vegans?

I eat vegetables and meat in a healthy way and here i am. That shit about meat is bad is the worst meme i've ever seen

>>10062833
Have you really not seen that segment of the show?

>>10061681
you should respect my right to eat meat.

>>10061681
How do you know if someone is Catholic, Mormon, or Vegan.......
They will tell you.

>>10061681
The hitler part is funny. At the time the Nazi had some of the most developed animal treatment laws on the planet.

>>10061681
Who ever made this pic, has never set foot on 4chan

>>10061867
But human lives don't matter because humans suck. Don't you want to save the cute cows and piggies???

>>10063570
its a shit argument too. the inverse can be claimed true as well, if based off this argument.
not your animals, not right to eat them

>>10061681
Meh, I honestly think vegans who do it for moral reasons have a point, I just don’t give enough of a damn about animals to stop eating meat

>>10062578
Strawman much, faggot?

>>10061874
I have tried most if that stuff at some point, some was okay, some bad, none spectacular but overall agreeable. Shit would give me hard gas though and if there was a flood or something where I might need to leave quick I wouldn't want to deal with being the rancid farty guy at the fema camp

>>10061874
my sister is vegetarian, I cook that stuff and it's vile.
She doesn't like it either, she rarely admits it but all of the groceries I buy her go uneaten most of the time.
I can enjoy vegetarian or even vegan food when it's actual quality like a fresh salad or a well made restaraunt dish.
But vegetarian/vegan kits/meals from supermarkets will make you gag from the smell alone if not from how they look.

>>10064637
Vegan imitation foods are the worst. There's maybe one kind of imitation sausage I enjoy, but I forget what it's called. I figure if you're gonna go vegan, at least commit to it to the extent that you don't need to pretend. I mean, yeah, go ahead and use substitute oils and fats and stuff, but fake meat is a terrible idea.

I do love the shit out of tofu though. When prepared well, it's one of my favorite proteins, and I'm not even vegetarian/vegan.

Is pescetarian diet better?

>>10062628
I found one.

>>10064799
Depends on what your needs are. I am a fake vegetarian (will eat meat on occasion but not every day). I fucking love seafood, but my gout does not.

>>10061910
nigga said ORGANIC salmon...

is veganism going to be pointless once lab-grown meat is available? it'll take a while for the majority of people to accept it, but i can't see any point in veganism if you can have meat without killing an animal, unless you consider that meat to be vegan.

>>10061768
Good point. Pretty much every vegan I know is pro-abortion.

>>10064882
I don't think I'd be able to eat lab grown meat. Also dislike GMOs. Something about the whole idea ruins my appetite more than anything else.

I'll take my local cattle and chicken any day. Organic vegetables too.

>>10064904
I'm comfortable with GMOs, generally, but I still think I'd hesitate at the thought of eating lab-grown meat. Something about the idea of eating a creature that never existed strikes me as wrong.

>>10064911
>Something about the idea of eating a creature that never existed strikes me as wrong.
The animals are still going to exist, Anon.

>>10061681
We sell vegan General Tso's chicken at my store and it's actually really good.

>>10063034
That asian guy is hot as fuck though.

>>10061874
They're looking for food anon

>>10064922
General Tso's only tastes like that sugary sauce anyway. You could literally put it on anything and it would taste the same as if you'd used chicken.

>>10064916
I exist. If you cloned some of my meat in a lab it and ate it you still wouldn't be eating me.

>>10064946
i kind of would be though, just without injuring or killing you, which i think is a good thing. if you need to know that your food was killed that's kind of messed up.

>>10064955
Nah. You'd be eating human meat, but you wouldn't be eating a human. You're munching on a deltoid, but I've still got mine. That's the distinction. The killing isn't really the part that matters to me. It just seems weird to eat a creature that never existed.

>>10062780
Hmmmm....

>>10062787
Yeah, it is. Now answer the question. Or are you from GA? You sound like you're from GA.

>>10063016
Most ``Christians" on 4chan are just roleplayers who never really believed in a god but feel alienated from their chosen political ideology if they don't profess belief in a particular kind. Feel free to ignore them.

>>10065217
To be fair, that's not just 4chan. It's America in general. I grew up Christian. It took me a long time to realize that fucking no one at church actually believed it. It's just a cultural marker and a PAC. Nothing more.

>>10065236
On 4chan specifically though it was common practice to mock godfags pretty much everywhere for believing in or pretending to believe in retarded fairy tales written in a language they don't understand. Many of the same people change their tune entirely when it becomes convenient, but they know deep down that it's not who they are. America in general on the other hand has a genuine respect for religion that never existed here, even though most people know it's bullshit

>>10061898
I'm surprised that as often as vegans try to cite scientific research to back their claims, you are readily capable of denying facts that don't suit your confirmation bias. I was hoping that veganism would be good for humans because who doesn't want to help teh cyoot wittwe aminals but research shows that it's not a beneficial change and is just as harmful to the environment as eating (reasonably sourced) meat.

>>10065236
Try to say that when you're in the Bible belt. Those retards will believe anything when you slap Jesus on it. Even stuff that isn't represented in their damned holy book.

>>10065198
I’m “from” Malaysia, but I live in Singapore now

>>10061681
>Title says all, let's get some lels.
I don't give a fuck what they eat, but I hate the vegan spam.

>>10061693
they bleed soy

>>10062713
That happens in places like Texas and Montana where you have go to a gourmet yuppie grocery store just to buy broccoli, alcohol sales are illegal on Sunday, and the idea that people would eat anything but "normal food" (aka church picnic food from a documentary about the 1950s) is something reserved only for the most attention-seeking juvenile counterculture edgelords.

Adult veganism is a routine thing in places that don't suck, you generally don't even notice it because it's a live-and-let-live environment. In places that suck, those people are hunted down and publicly humiliated as a social ritual in order to avoid a total breakdown of society, as one might see in places like post-baathist Iraq, or post-communist Russia. So it becomes big news, like the lady who waved her headscarf in Tehran, and the only ones who dare talk about it are the ones looking to rock the boat.

>>10061768
this

>>10065242
>America in general on the other hand has a genuine respect for religion
No they fucking don't. If you believe that, you're a fool. Religion is nothing more than a cultural marker here. Maybe 5% of all self-proclaimed Christians in this country actually are. It's just a powerful image and tool here, so people exploit the fuck out of it.

>>10065348
You are making my point 100%. Precisely. What the content of the religion is makes zero difference. It's just a cultural marker.

>>10065242
>America in general on the other hand has a genuine respect for religion that never existed here
t. nigga that never went to church

>>10066647
>>10065474
A respect for the institution, not necessarily the ideology. If there wasn't then we would have no trouble calling ourselves atheists like the rest of the godless post-industiral countries. It's largely a vestige of the Cold War but ironically now many of the post-Soviet states suffer from the same unhealthy attachment to a religion they don't really believe in as we do. It's like a grown man who puts out cookies and milk for Santa and calls people who don't naughty, but only because he can't imagine living in a world where people don't believe in him. Calling yourself a godfag when you really aren't is worse than actually being religious.