/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>18235142
>>18235149
Stop fighting, they both sucks
Neapolitan pizza (especially the contemporary style) shits on american pizza's chest

>>17646273
> They do it in Italy too nowadays
They do it for a long time actually.
But the point is having a really airy crust, if you make more crust and leave the dough as a regular pizza is like eating a fucking stone. The weight of the dough is the same more or less, it's just more leavened
> but Italians also love trends
Meh, culinary wise we don't follow trends so much. We are not obviously immune, but Italy is one of the most resilient country to food trends

That's why starbucks is bleeding to death, and so domino's

>>17636564
>saltine
<img class="xae" data-xae width="28" height="25" src="https://s.4cdn.org/image/emotes/25086889_FeelsSpecialMan.png">

Cross section of how good pizza dough should look like
American pizza is a fucking joke

>>17319092
No secrets, but a lot of factors
> territory
Italy is a small country with different climate all concentrated. it has 2 mountains chain that forms a "T" shape throughout all Italy, and it's also surrounded by seas. Also it has a good climate variety which make possible grow different plants and shit
> has thousands of years of history, and for a lot of time it was the political center of one of the biggest empire in history
> mixed culture
Italy was divided for hundreds between different empires. That made possible the development of very different cuisine which inevitable influence the neighbor territory
> "innate" passion for food.
Italy incorporate every good food and dish when possible. See for example rice, it was imported from China and Italy started making their own variety. Same with tomatoes
Food also is a big part of italian culture (it was even more important in the past generations).
People like to talk about food, eating, and food is actually used as a metric to rate weddings and parties in general especially in southern italy

>>17184043
italians
You murricans never get the dough right

>>17153870
if we stick to traditional methods pizza and lasagna are top tier and btfo the imitation

That lasagna looks fucking depressing, it looks like it's in broth.
> pasta sheets look bad,
> green doesn't belong to lasagna, you don't eat color
> none to pathetic crust
> is that ricotta instead of bechamel ?

>>16982170

Chicago pizza is not a pizza and NY is just a subpar pizza.
Neapolitan pizza is the only pizza worth eating desu

Anyway I will hijack this bait thread again and make a italian cuisine general thread

Let's start with delicious neapolitan pizza

>>16613699
That looks dope. A little too thin but better than both pizza in op's pic.
Aksi it doesn't look really like a neapolitan dough

neapolitan

>>16406980
wrong pic sorry

>>16358351
it depends on many factors. Neapolitan pizza is better in Napoli (which is the best style technically), but southern italy is poorer than northen italy and things obviously cost less. The same good pizza in naples could be around 4/6 euros in Napoli while in Milan would be 10/12 euros

Then it depends also on what kind of style you like more, some people argue that Roman style pizza is better which is more crunchy and thinner.

Amerilards that talk about the scarce number of styles have never been in Italy or they did the Milano-Firenze-Napoli 1 week trip. There are something like a different style for every region (not all of them) , but the most common one are the Neapolitan and the Roman styles. We also have the NY kinda style, which are what egiptians make in kebab places, they are mostly eaten when drunk or hungry at 2 AM.

In Naples there are some evolution of pizza style in these years, "canotto pizza" (pic), which is trend meant to stay (even more rised dough) and set new pizza standards.

>>16302888
Those were both done in America. The left pizza was not cocked in wood oven you can tell blindfolded

>>16302980
>Any good pizza experience in Italy is copied from someone else doing their methods in a good way

You will never have good pizza

> It's already documented that New Haven CT made what we consider pizza in this country first

If that's your pic, i guess even Etruscans have that flatbread with condiment

>>16105002
This is a cross section of what good pizzas look like

>>15877865
Looks ok, but there are some technical mistakes you made.

The first thing is i notice is that your dough didn't rise properly. It looks like you waited no more than 2 hours.
The results is that your dough is like bread