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>>9764422
My biggest gripe is that most vegans narrow it down to a nervous system and feelings from it etc.

The topic doesnt put humans at the top of the importance list, it works only with what we understand which is why mussels and plants are a contentious topic in vegan discussions.

>alien race visits earth
>we are causing them pain to their nervous system by simply existing
>its ethical for our species to die
>its the correct choice to self genocide morally
>we will never achieve what they have and we cause them pain
>so die

Or

>aliens visit and have no nervous system
>its moral to kill them because they dont feel pain
>have no damage receptors
>terminating their life is morally the same as terminating a plant

The topic of the discussion needs to not be about the nervous system, and instead be about people. Because something feels pain is not a good enough reason to not harvest it. That is why we still do. Because someone in a coma who is paralyzed and cannot feel anything still has value is because they are human.

We like animals that have a companionship to us and assist us. Its a human discussion, not a nervous system one. Its all emotional - people try and make it scientific but eating animal products is strictly a positive for your diet (talking about options and variety of potential nutrient sources - not a debatable topic). So scientifically and without emotion we should be setting up more and more animal farms. Emotionally this is disturbing.

Personally I only eat fish but dont care about animals. If you own a dog feel free to beat it, its not human and you own it. I wouldn't kill nor eat most animals because I feel bad. My feelings should have no weight on what you are allowed to do.

How is an Eskimo like a plastic surgeon?
They're both really great with nose jobs.