/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>13008754
I went to a walmart once on a road trip across flyover land. I wanted to see the "real america".

It was just as horrifying as I anticipated. Impossibly fat people on mobility scooters, pallets of bullshit garbage from China being sold in bulk, like plastic lawn ornaments, home health accessories related to obesity, and decorative products related to christianity and racism^H^H^H^H^Hheritage.

I can't wait for Buddajudge to win so we can purge the flyover states and replace the trash with productive, useful foreign refugees who actually love America because they see it as a land of opportunity and freedom and not a "once great" place that needs to be destroyed and replaced with theocratic fascism.

>>12939901
I never heard people complaining about food and drinks being too sweet until this past decade, and now fat people make this complaint *constantly*. It's like you're all trying to convince yourself you don't like sugar so you can feel less fat in the modern obesity epidemic ravaged developed world.

>>12744934
>Soda is the cause for the obesity epidemic
Pretty sure there is no shortage of obese people who only drink zero calorie diet soda.
Average amount of soda consumed by an American daily (and this average doesn't include the people who don't drink any soda) is 2.6 glasses, AKA 0.65 liters or a little over 20 oz (the size of those vending machine soda bottles).
https://news.gallup.com/poll/156116/nearly-half-americans-drink-soda-daily.aspx
>inb4 this is an average and not the extremes
The average American today IS overweight, so it's actually a good number for how much soda is consumed by the majority of overweight people.
Clearly not the cause of the obesity epidemic or even a significant portion of the calories that are causing it (a 20oz of Coke is 240 calories).

>>12685845
>why we have an obesity epidemic
A lot more because of food than drinks.
I have never once met a fat person who ate reasonable amounts of food and got all their caloric surplus from liquids.
Fatty's problem is the extra 1,000 calories they shouldn't be eating, not the extra 100-200 calories they get from a non-water drink.
Average amount of soda consumed by an American daily (and this average doesn't include the people who don't drink any soda) is 2.6 glasses, AKA 0.65 liters or a little over 20 oz (the size of those vending machine soda bottles).
https://news.gallup.com/poll/156116/nearly-half-americans-drink-soda-daily.aspx
>inb4 this is an average and not the extremes
The average American today IS overweight, so it's actually a good number for how much soda is consumed by the majority of overweight people.

>>12631741
>D-do zero drinks count?
Sugary drinks are only connected with health problems like cancers and Type 2 Diabetes because you're more likely to be overweight if you drink them.
This basically:
>>12630081
These studies aren't about sugary drinks causing these diseases. They're about overweight / obese people being a population that both consumes sugary drinks and has higher risk for these diseases.
If you're not overweight you're probably not going to have these overweight health problems.
>Indeed, sugary drinks are convincingly associated with the risk of obesity, which in turn, is recognized as a strong risk factor for many cancers.
>Increased risks were also suggested for adiposity related and obesity related cancers in recent surveys, as well as for pancreas, gallbladder, and endometrial cancers, although some other studies observed null results.
>Compared with lower consumers of sugary drinks (first quarter), higher consumers (fourth quarter)... had higher energy, carbohydrate, lipid, and sodium intakes and lower alcohol intake, compared with lower consumers.
>In line with our results, two recent prospective studies observed an increased risk of obesity-related cancers and adiposity-related cancers associated with sugary drink consumption.
>Of note, even sugary drinks with lower sugar content were associated with cancer in this study.
>This is an observational study, thus causality of the observed associations cannot be established and residual confounding cannot be entirely ruled out.
https://www.bmj.com/content/366/bmj.l2408

>>12624255
>These mechanisms appear to decrease nutrient absorption, therefore, decreasing metabolizable energy. Dietary fiber may also be able to decrease gross energy of a food due to its lower energy density.
It's really fucked up how something *interfering with* digestion is considered a positive nowadays, such is the extent of the obesity epidemic.

>>12600343
>Nah they did they in response to changing markets
No, McDonald's introduced their "Go Active" menu a day after Super Size Me's scheduled release date. They were clearly aware of the adverse effect the documentary's release would have on their public image and made menu changes in response.
>>12586979
>which I think they are getting rid of?
That's how these things usually work. People get upset about food health issues but also ultimately spend more money on unhealthy foods than healthy foods when given the choice, so inevitably the free market will guide businesses back towards offering unhealthy foods until the next public health freakout forces them to pay lip service to the healthy foods agenda again.
Similar thing happened a decade back with Campbell Soup. They cut sodium from their soup cans and even got public recognition / awards from health organizations like Blood Pressure Canada for doing so. Then their sales dropped and they went back to using the same amount of salt they had earlier after only three or four years following that reduction change.

>>12575737
>when did it all go wrong?
1960s.

>>12347231
No, it's more like women caused everyone to make less money by doubling the supply of workers while at the same time destroying families and creating the dystopian future we now inhabit.

>>11677885
It's not your fault, society went to shit and started spawning modern diseased subhumans like yourself who have no sense of family, community, or nation and have generally been alienated from their natural purpose in the world, instead slaving away in insect-like computer terminal hives and numbing the disconnection from all that's good and wholesome through substance abuse, depraved perversions of sexual reproduction divorced from its life giving properties and turned into empty pleasure for its own sake, and genetically modified poisonous mockeries of life sustaining food that will inevitably throw even your very cellular foundation out of balance with aimless runaway growth progressing to cancer and an early death, alone and in debt.

>>11510325
By not being digestible. We've literally degraded so much as a civilization that people have needed to come up with a massive assortment of different methods for producing foods and drinks that DON'T get digested. Drives me crazy since I'm hungry skelly mode and each day more and more grocery items are being modified to try to solve the obesity epidemic and rob me of precious calories.
>tfw get grocery delivery but some asshole gives me the diet version of soda, the skim version of milk, or the light version of dressing