/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>11952983
>Or we could stop killing for food

How do you propose we do that? Especially when you're killing in order to shitpost on a bhutanese marquetry forum. Or did you think that the electricity which powers this shit and the devices in you're using to post with were somehow "death free"?

>>11763863
so what you're saying is that farming is inhumane? how are we supposed to eat then?

>>11763868
sure they can. You can raise your own animals or hunt. you can buy from small producers you have visited personally and know treat their animals well. there are plenty of options other than buying factory-farmed meat.

>>11675107
Somebody has never had the fun job of extracting unidentifiable bloody animal bits from baler before. Why do you virgins always insist on discussing sex you've never had?

>>11024132
> in taking anything from animals
Then how do they justify taking land from animals to grow crops?

...not to mention the animals which die during crop production?

>>10853716
it is crazy to cling to a "Vegan" identity that purports idealistically, to be the "most ethical" option or "most healthy" or "most harmless" when in reality, big agriculture is synergistically composed of monocultures both plant and animal, and whether the vegan supports only those large industrial plant monocultures does nothing to end the industrial food chain of suffering and poor nutritional output, for the workers, animal and plant products and the environment.

there is a serious lack of knowledge of the actual production of food coming from a vegan, otherwise they couldn't in good conscience say things like "i'm just doing the best i can" and "i'm trying to reduce harm" while supporting large agricultural consortiums that directly trade or are part of the same company with the animal business.

the label of "vegan" is preventing you from supporting the small farms that can actually treat their animals and plants with the care they deserve. Small animal farmers lock their chickens up at night not to "cage them in" but because there are wild animals that will kill them, and the farmer's want to protect them.

my advice is learn to cope with the idea of death. You don't have to eat a dead body, but you should become okay with the idea that everything dies. A chicken on a farm is not necessarily exploited if the farm provides a comfortable and safe life for a chicken that would be stressed trying and failing to survive in the wild. Drop the label of vegan, it is holding you back from actually ethically eating and supporting actual ethical farms.

>>10600831
do you eat honey? it is the product of a bees labor?
do you eat an apple, also the product of a bees labor? where do you draw the line? You don't, because veganism is just a fear of facing death and accepting suffering wrapped up in a label that makes you feel morally superior.

Soy milk and almond milk is not more sustainable than dairy milk if farmed in a monoculture, in fact it will harm be populations and be ecologically damaging to the soil and environment. Furthermore, the soy and almond pulp and husks from vegan mass industry go on to feed the animals in the animal industry.

life is a fucking circle. Food that is unethically farmed, whether plant or animal, will harm the world. Avoiding meat because you feel bad when you think of blood and guts means you have to process some shit about life and death. Your avoidance of reality does not help make reality better.

>>10479938
Just know the endgame of veganism is extinction of animals and detachment from the food chain, complete dependence on modern technology and big ag (monsanto) to feed a sickly populace cured by modern medicine (bayer).

Learn to accept suffering and death as part of life, and to find joy and gratitude for things that enable your life to continue, giving back where you can with this in mind. At the very least, learn to grow your own food and support yourself, you'll find in the process that death is inevitable in growing food and sustaining new life.

>>10106637
factory dairy farms are terrible no doubt. My confusion stems from the vegan actions that will abstain from this factory dairy farm but support another monoculture soy or almond farm whose by-products are directly sold/traded to a factory animal farm as a means to keep costs of each monoculture affordable in a big box store

the more sustainable option is a small farm, which can operate much more efficiently with combining both animal and plant, the fact vegans aren't willing to drop the "no animal product" label in favor of something more productive is what confuses me