/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>17217565
I don't know or care. All diets result in animals being killed.
The real only way to know how many lives are ended for your food is to get involved with the production.

>>16464033
How about:
-50 billion bees dying per year to farm almonds in California alone
-Orangutans and tigers going extinct for palm production
-certain animals going extinct due to overuse of pesticides
-fish going extinct from a combination of tillage and artificial fertilizer runoff causing toxic algae blooms
-The multibillion dollar crop protection industry

The path of least harm is self sufficiency. You cannot buy less harm at a supermarket.

>>15884830
Of course a pig can feel pain. This is why we should promote and educate people on how to properly source meat. What good is it if people go vegan, eat unsustainable crops that still kill animals anyways, and then over 70% of them are back to eating meat anyways in less than 5 years. Wouldn't it be better to just... you know... pull support away from factory farming not through supermarket certification, but through direct consumer certification via visiting the farm, asking the farmer questions, and supporting farms that prioritize animal welfare?

>>15242989
>the burden of mass slaughter does not fall on the average person
What? You do realize a single cow can feed you and your family for an entire year, right? One dead cow isn't exactly "mass slaughter" Not like the fish die offs caused by artificial fertilizer runoff

>>14747744
Or maybe this? Since being vegan is all about the animals, right? Fish are so thankful you are using plant based meat, so they can slowly suffocate in their toxic agricultural runoff homes.

>>14286964
Again, don't want to hear YOUR excuse. You talk about "everyone" as if you ever gave a shit about anyone aside from yourself.
We will never go back to the pre industrial era, but we can still move forward while still looking to the past for tips, like how during the pre green revolution in the 1970s we didn't have a fucking obesity and diabetes epidemic worse than covid.

Having 5 percent of the population farming in the United States would be 5 times the amount of people farming now. If the average age of a farmer in the united states be 50 it would be 15 years YOUNGER than the average age now, and maybe there would be more innovation done to improve upon our shitty 1970s based kill-everything-except-the-one-fucking-monocrop system.

But you know what, make your excuses and go back to making posts about how big daddy soyence is going to save us all.

>>14270007
I mean, I care about animal welfare and nature. But veganism doesn't fix the animal suffering and environmental damage that happens in crop production.

So I'm just growing my own crops and raising my own livestock.
That way I can be in control of the welfare of my animals, which I want to be as high as possible because hello I'm going to eat these guys they better be healthy and happy, and it gives me ease of mind that I'm in control of the environment my crops are growing in. Plus all the scraps and animal shit gets composed and fertilizes my land.