/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>11695471
Honey is not vegan because it is an animal product

However, honey harvesting does not harm bees.
An average bee hive needs about 50lb of honey to survive through winter, give or take ~10lb
An average bee hive actually produces about 200lb of honey in preparation for the winter.

If the surplus honey is not harvested, the hive will be crowded and the bees will abandon it to swarm: they will find a random new place to build a new hive, probably make a nuisance of themselves and get sprayed to death or else die of exposure in the winter from inadequate or incomplete hive construction.

The only harm commercial honey harvest causes is sometimes a bee might get crushed as you slide the trays in and out, but individual deaths at this scale is expected in a wild hive anyway and hardly a reason to not eat honey.
Your vegan friends justify the large-scale killings of field animals in normal crop harvest (do you have any idea how many mice get caught up in a grain combine?) with "well, at least it's accidental and not MURDER", so surely the same principle applies to honey.