/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>15361560
The "optimal" diet probably includes some animal products. You can absolutely survive and thrive on a veggie diet, but it's harder.

On the other hand, the food industry has conditioned the west into eating meat with every single meal, every day of the week, and that's what's collectively fucking us up, in multiple senses.

That's why personally I'm doing the same thing as you: trying out various vegetarian and vegan meals just to see what kind of options I have. It like a fun challenge to see just how little I actually need meat to make a good meal.

For the most part I agree with vegans on many of their ethical concerns. But I also recognize I'm a hypocrite and don't have the resolve to go all the way. But I don what I can.