/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>12123989
>t by buying a product which directly involves animal stuff
Buying a steak directly involves animal stuff.
Buying sugar does not. that's the point.
it's not directly involved, it's only tangentially involved. We need activated charcoal to purify sugar. Would you rather we get that charcoal by cutting down more trees? Or should we use a byproduct that we already have so that we don't have to burn trees for it?

>Again, it's matter of minimizing harm.
Shipotsing doesn't minimize harm. It outright causes harm for no benefit in return. It's even worse than eating meat because at least meat gives you nutrition.

>>The key is to make efforts to minimize this in order to build a better world.
How does shitposting here further that goal?

>> And we sure af don't need to torture and kill innocent mammals
Agreed.

>who feel love, affection, pain and suffering just the same as you do
Nonsense.

> How are we living in harsh conditions now, when you literally just go down the street and can pick anything you want to eat from around the world?
You ever stop to think just how "harsh" that supermarket is? It's inventory comes from a huge fleet of pic related. It poisons countless animals to keep them from eating the foods stored within. The building itself killed animals when it was built, and it continues to do so with the electricity that it runs on.

> and more intelligent distribution of resources with better ethics for all lifeforms is the future
Agreed.
And the most intelligent method of feeding ourselves is small-scale local farms that raise crops and animals in the correct ratio. Mostly crops, few animals. Yes, this means we kill some animals to eat them. The benefit, however, is huge: we generate far less harm because we are not dependent on synthetic fertilizers, and we don't have to burn fuel shipping things as far.

Wanting to reduce harm is great. Becoming so focused on a misguided principle that you end up causing more harm is bass-ackwards.

>>11994154
The supply chain thing bugs me, because too many people these days think that it's so easy to eat whatever you want year-round, because all they see is that their local MegaMart has tomatoes in stock year-round. But they never bother to think about how that tomato got there in January. And there's nothing enviornmentally friendly about the fleet of trucks, ships, warehouses, refrigerated storage units, etc, involved with that. It costs a lot of money. It generates a ton of pollution. Countless rodents and birds die because of poisons used to keep pest animals out of the supply chain. But hey, at least you can say that there was "no animal death" for that January tomato, right?