Idol/Odottemita/Dance Cover Groups

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Idol/Odottemita/Dance Cover Groups Anonymous Sat Jan 19 15:50:19 2019 No.10083863 [Reply] [Original]

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Previous discussions:
-Designing and creating original costumes
-Original songs / https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLfmgukQM2isUtJJZz1MY4Jn4zPcbl0wDU
-SR Productions releasing voiced character introductions
-Open auditions for Starlight Idol Festival at AWA / https://awa-con.com/events/featured-events/starlight-idol-festival/
-Any potential in idol showcases for smaller states?

Have any of you ever financially supported any performers, maybe by buying their merchandise/singles/albums, subscribing to their Patreon, etc.?

Also, has the trend of people aspiring to become professional idols in Japan died out? I don't think I know of any currently active net idols who aim for that goal anymore, at least not publicly.

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>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 19 15:54:48 2019 No.10083870 Also, this time around: Try to keep drama to a minimum. Take it to the lolcow farms if you want. Do not respond to bait about whether or not net idol threads belong on this board. We're not going anywhere, no need to argue about it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 19 16:08:46 2019 No.10083884 Can we discuss Start Splash posting their own hate memes? >>10083781

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 19 17:00:00 2019 No.10083920 >>10083884 No don't give them the attention they want

Anonymous Sat Jan 19 18:34:28 2019 No.10083977

https://youtu.be/0wXjmNeQt4k

https://youtu.be/XRRN-jJkdF4

Found this group, I've never heard of them, but they uploaded some competition videos and I'm literally dying right now, lmao. These are only the Jpop songs they did, you should see the Kpop ones, they're pretty bad.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 19 19:01:38 2019 No.10083996 >>10083977 These... aren't that bad... Self post seeking attention or vendetta? Don't get me wrong, it's not great, but it certainly isn't cringe

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 19 19:06:54 2019 No.10084001 >>10083884 What's with the constant obsession with Start: Splash? Just seems like someone really doesn't like them and wants to frame them.

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Anonymous Sat Jan 19 19:17:25 2019 No.10084010

>>10084001
i live in texas and follow all these groups. none is obsessed with them but they have history of doing this kind of crap. everyone here leaves them alone but if drama starts, there the ones who started it. don't fall for it and let their 5 minutes of ~4chan hate~ pass.

Anonymous Sat Jan 19 19:25:03 2019 No.10084012

>>10083977
I watched a few of them and I want to climb through the screen and murder whoever filmed these.
For the Synchronized one, she clearly either did not practice that dance enough or just flat out doesn't have enough dance experience because she's struggling to stay in time with the music and her movements are not sharp at all, which is one of the biggest parts of the dance. Synchronized looks stupid as a solo if you don't know what you're doing.
Butterfly Grafitti looks the best (not that that's saying much; the bar isn't super high for this group) but I'm also basing this off the fact that she's the only one that wore a remotely interesting outfit and the few parts of the dance I can see since again, this camera girl is ass. This seems to be the most stable dancer for this group so far, but I'm not giving this much praise. She needed a way longer skirt if she's gonna be doing that many turns and jumps.

Also when did Loli-Pop Project rebrand as qorus? Was this mentioned in a previous thread and I missed it?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 19 19:30:56 2019 No.10084017 >>10084010 Really? It just seems to me like some other local group trying to point fingers out of spite. Just the Texas idol community being notoriously petty as usual.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 19 19:38:56 2019 No.10084021 >>10084017 When has anyone been petty besides them? i dont even perform or closely interact with anyone in the texas community but you can tell who starts shit the most... Inb4: waah we werent let into tif because the organizer is petty waaah

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 19 19:56:53 2019 No.10084031 >>10084021 What have they been petty about? I recall speculation about both them and Project Starlight. I didn't know about the TIF stuff, so I'm surprised you do, considering there's not anywhere you can find that information from my memory.

Anonymous Sat Jan 19 21:32:22 2019 No.10084087

>>10083863
In all seriousness, have any non-Asians/hafu (besides Beckii) ever gotten into an idol group and stayed there for a while?

All the weebs nowadays want to be the next Love Live/Bandori/BTS/Enstars, so I can see why there’s not anyone aiming to get to Japan.

Anonymous Sat Jan 19 21:50:14 2019 No.10084097

>>10084087
Not OP but honestly, no. Not one. Not even Amina stayed and I feel like she might have been there the longest. I think you can maybe count Ally & Sally since they are in Seishun (technically) but even now they’re in Canada with the sister group.

I do think the trend has died out with those involved in the net idol/local idol scene. But those who don’t know it exist (which is funnily possible) probably want to. Every now and again you’ll see a hafu or non Asian in an idol group but it’s super under ground.

Anonymous Sun Jan 20 00:43:10 2019 No.10084191

>>10084087
Most idols who make it overseas generally only last about a year (Yukapon, Kelsey Parnigoni, Aminyan, Keeki Hime) I think maybe Tia was longer? But she's no longer an idol, I'm not sure what she's doing now

But that's why the whole "I want to be an idol" for real thing is really silly

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 01:19:26 2019 No.10084202 Anyone go to anime shogatsu today in Toronto? Weather was too bad so I left early

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 01:45:34 2019 No.10084209 Seems like Nebula Kiss is down to two members now lol. Wonder what happened there? I know a few of their members liked to stir things up now and then but I hadn't heard anything for a while

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 01:56:35 2019 No.10084212 Anyone ever know what happened to 4TE? it's been a couple years : (

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 02:51:10 2019 No.10084230 >>10083996 No no the J-Pop ones are decent, they're the best, but they uploaded more that are K-Pop that are a lot worse.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 02:52:29 2019 No.10084231 >>10084209 I was wondering the same thing, and they're not even like some of their semi-decent members hehe.

Anonymous Sun Jan 20 03:45:36 2019 No.10084248
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Tokimeki JUMP is fundraising to produce an original single
https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/tokimeki-jump-first-original-single

Also, Honey Hime haven't really posted anything else about PizzaYolo besides their introduction in early December. I'm (impatiently) looking forward to it, an Italian pizza-themed idol group is such a fun and silly concept.

>>10084212
I guess they probably disbanded without publicly announcing it which is shame. Seems like Micchi is still active though.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGwlNSIJIZg

Anonymous Sun Jan 20 04:08:50 2019 No.10084251

>>10084248
This is how you ask for money. You take time to show what you can do, then you give ACTUAL rewards to people who want to help out. Interlunium only really did one of those things and most groups that try are just failures honestly. I’m really happy to see Tokimeki is aiming for more now!

Anonymous Sun Jan 20 09:44:36 2019 No.10084361

>>10084191
Aminyan and Keeki and Tia were all in Japan as idols for 3 years. Yukapon was never an idol in Japan. Kelsey Parnigoni was there for at least two years. The shelf life of an idol is already short and by the time these girls get to Japan they’re already in their late 20s or late teens. I don’t think it’s becaus they’re foreign is because nobody wants to see a 30 year old idol and by the time they’ve been there for a few years and grown up I doubt they want to be idols anymore. It’s still possible for girls to go to japan and become idols but since there’s so many foreign girls you really need the entire package of being thin, actually able to speak good Japanese, conventionally attractive, young and a decent dancer. Not really anyone in the Idol community these days who have those.

Anonymous Sun Jan 20 10:03:38 2019 No.10084367

>has the trend of people wanting to be idols in Japan died down?

I’d argue that it was never a trend to begin with. All the people who truly wanted to go to Japan already did. The vast majority only knew about idols from Beckii Cruel and hoped some record company would pick them up from doing weeb dances which will never happen again. I think people are realizing that the idol stuff in Japan is an actual business and no company will invest time money and a visa in you simply because you’re foreign. The only recent example I can think of is Tomiko Claire who is American and can’t speak Japanese but her mom is 2nd gen Japanese American and she’s in a big idol group now after doing the Miss id thing. Even she was like 14 when she went. There’s also a lot of groups like Peachy a parade, Noora Petra and a few who went and performed in Japan at events but since most of their fans are fellow weebs it’s almost pointless and only just to say “we performed in Japan” . MOE maids of England did a Japan show a few years ago and only three old guys went. They can’t speak Japanese at all and one of the girls has a tsundere act she does but it went over horribly https://youtu.be/qzph3GYFrhM
honestly there’s zero point in performing in Japan unless you already want to live in Japan or you get into a real Japanese idol group.

Anonymous Sun Jan 20 10:09:05 2019 No.10084369
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Teyaberri is someone who went to japan recently to try and become an idol but she was there for only two months before moving back to America. probably had realistic ideas. she posted about how “it’s impossible to be a black idol” and she failed auditions. She also is trying to copy Seishun Gakuin and start an American sister group for Kissbee.

Anonymous Sun Jan 20 10:24:03 2019 No.10084374

>>10084361
Aminyan was in an idol group for less than 3 months and the group itself didn’t have any fans and flopped after less than a year. Tia was in her group for less than a year and wasn’t performing with them for the majority of the time. Any girl in Japan can become an idol in an underground group like these, really.

The only foreign girls that actually partipated in major idols events were Noora and Petra and Ally and Sally. They had major CD releases and performed at Tokyo Idol Festival and what-not.

Anonymous Sun Jan 20 10:52:29 2019 No.10084379

>>10084374
This is inaccurate and reeks of salt.
Ally and sally weren’t in a major idol group their group was only indie but they did perform a lot solo as well for 5 years. seishun gakuin wasnt at TIF.

Tia’s group had a major label debut but she was only in it for about a year and a few months. She suits modelling better imo. Plus her group was at TIF they just had a shit ton of members so she got lost in the background.

Noora & Petra weren’t in a major idol group, they were just background dancers for Pinky of Dempa gumi inc’s solo project. It didn’t take off so they had to leave Japan but they worked at dearstage for a while and their Dempa covers is what got them famous. If they spoke Japanese better I think they would’ve done a million times better.

Aminyan was in a group for about half a year and they had a major label debut, but before she performed solo idol with Japanese management for years at events like Tokyo Game Show for Bandai and a big idol fes with her group(wasn’t TIF though). she didn’t join a group for a long time because being black wouldn’t look right but the group she actually joined had a ~sexy~ thing so it worked better.

You’re forgetting Keekihime who had a bad rep on the Japanese internet after she stole money and slept with at least two Japanese fans who got a major label debut, was in a group in Osaka for a while and got her visa sponsored by her group.

>any girl can join an underground idol group

If that’s what makes you feel good about yourself. But unless you’re conventionally decent and speak Japanese you’re not getting into a group, even an indie one. If this was the case Teya would’ve gotten in the group, which she couldn’t despite being a great dancer. Ally & Sally are great dancers, fluent in Japanese but it literally took them 5 years of going to Japan and back doing auditions before they were accepted in a group.

Anonymous Sun Jan 20 11:00:04 2019 No.10084384
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>>10084379
Sorry for mistake in spelling English isn’t my first language. Keekihime even though she had scandals was probably the best example of someone actually becoming a legitimate idol in Japan. Her Japanese is amazing, she has a good look for Japan and dancing is good and has a solid Japanese fan base. Nobody imo has come close to doing what she did. Beckii Cruel and other cruel girls don’t count she wasn’t trying to be an idol.
>ANYONE can join these groups
ok then why did that Italian chick who been on Japanese Tv many times and call herself an idol, speak some Japanese and such not become an idol in Japan yet?no management no events nothing.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 11:24:18 2019 No.10084395 File: 103 KB, 1000x667, FB_IMG_1548001399137.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10084379 Ally and Sally were at TIF with Seishun gakuin tho

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 11:28:16 2019 No.10084399 >>10084395 Seishun Gakuin is an indie group. tia was there too.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 13:02:09 2019 No.10084451 >>10084399 Not the anon you’re replying to but TIF is primarily indie groups though. That’s the thing. So even if you’re an indie group, performing at TIF is pretty much a major step forward.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 13:04:32 2019 No.10084453 I think Ally and Sally have done very well as idols since they left Oishii Ichigo years ago. They're not conventionally pretty but they have great Japanese and being twins gives them a cute advantage,

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 14:22:16 2019 No.10084492 >>10084031 Okay Bunny, we all know how you bully out members you don’t like. Everyone in the community knows how toxic you all are.

Anonymous Sun Jan 20 15:45:52 2019 No.10084544

>>10084453
Considering they took the charge to start the Canadian chapter of Seishun Gakuen and it has some decent success performing at plenty of local events, performing and running their own solo lives that sell out the albeit small venues they’re in, running a patreon, posting daily on social media, doing showrooms, and receiving their own original SYA song from shun, I would definitely say they’re doing well for themselves.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 16:36:39 2019 No.10084576 >>10084248 What's going on with the girl on the far left?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 16:37:44 2019 No.10084577 >>10084544 I have to agree. They also have a support local fanbase who helped them out. I still remember when they were part of Moe Twinstyle and I remember seeing a Cgl thread on it . It is like ugly duckling story in action

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 16:51:35 2019 No.10084589 >>10084209 Lol honestly tho. I heard one of them moved away but she loved to cause drama for (seemingly) no reason so that may be a blessing. Lmao

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 17:16:12 2019 No.10084607 >>10084576 Leave Puchiko alone.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 18:38:13 2019 No.10084675 >>10084607 Puchiko is adorable and no one can tell me otherwise

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 19:28:13 2019 No.10084707 Ichi Bunnie ya need to stop coming in here to defend your friend lol

Anonymous Sun Jan 20 21:03:31 2019 No.10084761
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Looks like LL sunrise made original costumes for their last performance. They look okay. Let's hope more Love live groups do the same, it would be nice to see more cosplay groups do this.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 21:57:13 2019 No.10084784 >>10083870 Sometimes I can’t help but wonder if I’m on 4Chan or Lolcow based on what’s been happening

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 21:58:30 2019 No.10084785 >>10084251 Does Ko Fi work? I heard mixed reviews

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 22:27:23 2019 No.10084795 Who do you all think are the nicest groups or idols? Like behind closed doors, not their 'public image'

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 22:28:49 2019 No.10084796 >>10084576 I always think the same thing

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 22:45:35 2019 No.10084806 >>10084795 I mean most of the ones I've talked to are super nice. At least the Florida ones are

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 22:52:08 2019 No.10084810 >>10084784 You say that like there's a difference

Anonymous Sun Jan 20 22:54:13 2019 No.10084812
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>>10084785
I use Ko-fi for art. It's essentially a tip jar for people to give a few dollars to their favorite artists without a monthly subscription like Patreon. If you're wanting to fundraise for a big project that'll cost a couple of hundred or thousand dollars, Kickstarter or Indiegogo seems like a better way to go about doing it (as long as, like >>10084251 said, you actually prove your capabilities and talents to gain an audience that wants to financially support you).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7yjMHydDoc

>>10084761
Their costumes are nice even if a bit simple, but I don't really get the point of cosplaying as a character in a costume you've designed yourself...

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 23:21:43 2019 No.10084821 >>10083870 The kind of consistent calling out that happens here doesn’t happen in most other threads on this board. Idolfags man

Anonymous Mon Jan 21 00:11:35 2019 No.10084844

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHbQ-eS3Gv4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50UQHh9MM5
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJxPCrjqz5k
These three original idol songs were in the playlist linked at the top of the thread, and I don't think they've been posted before? The group is pretty good though they haven't done much yet.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 21 00:13:27 2019 No.10084845 >>10084844 I screwed up on linking the second video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50UQHh9MM5s

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 21 00:34:21 2019 No.10084854 I’m excited for the 2019 year of net idols It’s seems like a lot of new things are being created and new groups are being formed

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 21 01:23:30 2019 No.10084878 >>10084854 I agree, hopefully this will be a good year for net idols, I think there are a lot of soloists and groups who have potential

Anonymous Mon Jan 21 02:08:03 2019 No.10084903

>>10084202
Went. Nothing too interesting. ACT performed early and it was just a lot of old classics of theirs and berrys back. Didnt wait around for the vocaloid group. The latest ll group was okay, they were quite cramped for all full groups and snow halation didnt have the same effect because the room was so bright. Shine finally unveiled the "new version" of themselves kind of? Like the offical we are not love live show. I liked their new outfits too. I think thats all the idols?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 21 07:02:50 2019 No.10084996 >>10084761 why is the Mari (?) not wearing a wig tho

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 21 07:51:38 2019 No.10085014 >>10084996 And like, where's the Ruby? This picture has me feeling so confused.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 21 08:53:34 2019 No.10085036 Sally Amaki is god. https://youtu.be/V5UVI6EVqUs

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 21 09:57:41 2019 No.10085050 >>10085014 Wait yeah, what? Are there two Hanamarus?

Anonymous Mon Jan 21 10:16:27 2019 No.10085057

>>10084996
She posted on her personal story that she forgot her wig at home.
>>10085014
Not sure about the ruby situation, she probably just couldn’t make the con. >>10085050
They have a back up Hanamaru who filmed the second op with them. Their OG hanamaru is the one on the left. They probably brought her along to keep the group at nine, but she didn’t have any other wig.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 21 12:17:01 2019 No.10085096 >>10084844 Shiro seems like such a nice, relaxing person to be around

Anonymous Mon Jan 21 12:30:21 2019 No.10085110

>>10084845
This is actually funny to me because the autotune is so much. I really wish Jazi would stop overprocessing her voice to compensate for mediocre vocals cause I think she wouldn't be that bad if she worked on her voice more. Also the concept is kinda cute but she needs to get a better camera person cause half of those shots were blurry/out of focus.

Anonymous Mon Jan 21 13:33:34 2019 No.10085135

Does anyone know anything about squeeze.gg? They started off kind of weird and ambiguous on Instagram, but have been posting more stuff under the netidol tag and have a convention schedule planned, so I was wondering if there were any videos of their performance or if anyone knows what they're like. I'm curious, but since they aren't posting much content it's hard to gauge their talent and style.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 21 14:19:18 2019 No.10085163 >>10085096 I can confirm! She's really nice. If you ever get a chance to meet her, you really should

Anonymous Mon Jan 21 17:17:28 2019 No.10085309

>>10084012
The camera girl isn't that bad it seems more like poor planning in not getting a better/good spot mostly. But that's kinda dumb since small cons are usually really easy to at least get a middle or aisle seat? And she didn't hold the phone high enough maybe due to people behind her

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 21 17:31:21 2019 No.10085317 >>10084761 These look like flower girl dresses from a generic bridal shop

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 21 18:58:14 2019 No.10085377 >>10085317 you guys complain if they cosplay, you guys complain if they make their own simple outfits, nobody wins

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 21 19:16:52 2019 No.10085388 >>10085377 Idols are over competitive bitches, that’s why.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 21 19:41:47 2019 No.10085420 I feel like the only people on this thread are net idols themselves. Because who really cares anymore

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 21 19:58:11 2019 No.10085433 >>10085420 Not so, it's entertaining to see them bicker. Lolita dramu got boring

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 21 20:35:55 2019 No.10085459 >>10085420 This would imply every person in the community is a backstabbing liar which isn’t necessarily true.

Anonymous Mon Jan 21 20:54:59 2019 No.10085478

Felt like sharing some dancers

Ayananana, a disabled odorite
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3UlfR-I1aRk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGO9GKFr-VY

ToXIC$, a Swedish dance group
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAQNkSG1Eh0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-FIt4bHXXw

BOOMBERRY, a Russian K-pop dance group
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3UlfR-I1aRk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YeKxovy0Oz0

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 21 21:00:23 2019 No.10085487 >>10085478 I meant to put this for the first BOOMBERRY link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fp6INuXnt8o

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 21 21:37:55 2019 No.10085536 >>10085459 I feel like we’re similar to the larp thread. We have a different culture from the rest of the board, and lolitas/cosplayers/etc are confused by us going on about this stuff

Anonymous Mon Jan 21 21:44:14 2019 No.10085543

>>10084903
>>10084202

>ACT: same old recycled songs, outfits,
and Asian girls, but great stage presence as usual. Very cute and interactive.

>Meidoroids: meh. They really need to learn how to style their wigs is all I remember. Talked to them after the show, all kind of rude...

>Astraluna: I left for artist alley halfway through.

>1 2 Shine: cute outfits and setlist. 3/5 girls don't know how to use their voices when doing the scripted/talking parts. one is super pretty but can't dance. Had the chance to talk to them at the booth and the one young girl was really rude but talking with the other girls was a good experience. They did fortune telling which was different.

>Alt3red: nice to see another original idol group coming up but they looked really frumpy. Hope to see more from them.

Overall it was nice. Glad to see more original groups on the rise.

Anonymous Mon Jan 21 21:52:05 2019 No.10085558

>>10085536
Larpers are peaceful though as far as I’ve seen. These are just containment threads for anonymous “critiquing” if rival groups. At least it’s not like last year where they were all stellure call outs ie adults caring about what literal high schoolers are fighting over.
>>10085433
Likewise

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 21 22:18:54 2019 No.10085577 >>10084810 Well people on here tend to be less rude than on lolcow. A bit less brutal

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 21 22:21:37 2019 No.10085581 >>10084230 Well Kpop is waaaaaaay harder to pull off. Imagine trying to dance to BTS lmao

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 22 01:00:25 2019 No.10085660 >>10085581 Okay but none of them did BTS Lol; They did easy shit like Bang by Aterschool and Heroine by Sunmi and still fucked them up lol. Synchronized by Fairies is harder than all those dances but together but hm.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 22 04:05:27 2019 No.10085714 >>10085558 All the shit about Stellure last year was brought on by themselves for the most part. And honestly it’s part of the downhill spiral of the threads. There was never really an issue until then.

Anonymous Tue Jan 22 05:11:08 2019 No.10085731

>>10085714
But you guys would not shut up about them. It definitely wasn’t them posting in the bulk of the threads. It was wannabe idol bitches bitching about other wannabe idol bitches, except one party was made of minors doing stupid minor stuff, and it was somehow not cringey to be the other party since it was disguised as wota-like interest in their lives. And “until then”? These threads didn’t exist very long before then. I think I saw them start around 2016 but correct me if I’m wrong.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 22 07:56:21 2019 No.10085812 >>10085420 Exactly my thought too. No one gives a shit about net idols besides other net idols or their friends i'm telling ya.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 22 09:10:26 2019 No.10085840 its as if lolitas talk about other lolitas and cosplayers talk about other cosplayers! gasp how scandalous! this effects me so much! i have to point out of the obvious to everyone!

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 22 09:45:47 2019 No.10085866 Nowadays this thread talks more about net idols than cosplay idols when I think cosplay idols are highly superior to net idols.

Anonymous Tue Jan 22 09:58:36 2019 No.10085879

>>10085840
Honestly. Also very strange that these anons act as though these threads are any more dramatic or bitchy than the rest of this board and don't care for any genuine advice or praise anyone gives. It's almost as if they're only invested in drama...
>>10085433
>>10085558

Anonymous Tue Jan 22 10:46:50 2019 No.10085928

>>10085731
>But you guys would not shut up about them
They were literally the only topic of conversation for months because no one else was putting out content. When you’re the only one active, it’s literally hard to avoid being talked about.

>It was wannabe idol bitches bitching about other wannabe idol bitches
Yes. That’s normal in any community though, even the professional music community.

>except one party was made of minors doing stupid minor stuff
Most of these people are mid-teens to early 20s. It’s unavoidable for these people to be minors. A large majority of Instagram net idols are minors.

>it was somehow not cringey to be the other party since it was disguised as wota-like interest in their lives.
No it’s cringey regardless. But the cringe depends on how people handle it. It just happens that people who are younger are more cringey.

>These threads didn’t exist very long before then. I think I saw them start around 2016 but correct me if I’m wrong.
These threads have been around for at least 4 years. I only know because a group I was in was mentioned years ago and I remember that I found these threads well before that.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 22 11:04:56 2019 No.10085936 >>10085866 Big yikes

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 22 11:16:35 2019 No.10085941 >>10085879 >the rest of this board What other threads do you idol thread guys lurk? Genuinely curious, real question.

Anonymous Tue Jan 22 11:19:55 2019 No.10085944

>>10085941
Nanchatte, love Nikki, taobao, yume kawaii and occasionally stuff like Lolita general or maybe like photo dump threads with aesthetics I like. It used to be a lot more Lolita-centric but tastes have shifted over the years and my life demands more casual fashion now a days.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 22 11:52:30 2019 No.10085969 >>10085866 lel that’s rich I’ve had enough of the nico nico weebs falling themselves idols

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 22 11:58:57 2019 No.10085974 >>10085969 Newsflash, none of you are “idols” either and all of you look like weebs. Get off your high horse and read the last thread

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 22 12:20:25 2019 No.10085991 >>10085941 Any convention threads that are near me or kinda juicy, makeup threads, draw threads, room threads

Anonymous Tue Jan 22 12:49:04 2019 No.10086013
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>>10085866
I personally don't follow cosplay idols as I don't follow any idol anime, but I don't really get the disdain for them. Sure, Love Live is pretty oversaturated, but that doesn't make LL cosplay performers inherently worse than other net idol performers.

What do you want to discuss about cosplay idols/which groups do you want to discuss?

>>10085941
Mori and cult party (RIP), simple/casual lolita, draw thread, craft thread, skin care thread

And here's some J-fashion idol groups for y'all
meltia (RIP) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mW2MBw058DY
merry merli https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNajlp433ic
Candye Syrup https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tNTYe_HsAOA

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 22 13:00:54 2019 No.10086024 What are some songs you guys love and wish someone would cover some day?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 22 15:06:29 2019 No.10086133 >>10085866 Well yeah cuz the cosplays they do are iconic to the anime idol world But I still wanna see some more vocaloid D:

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 22 15:07:40 2019 No.10086135 >>10085944 Ok what is with people and Love Nikki. I only saw ads but it just looks like a stupid dress up game. What’s all the craze?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 22 15:32:41 2019 No.10086163 >>10085478 Ayananana videos reminded me of this Portuguese Love Live Dance group called No Brand Girls, their Hanayo/ Ruby uses a computer chair to dance around on stage.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 22 15:36:10 2019 No.10086168 >>10085420 I'm more of a wannabe net idols but don't have enough of a community around my country to become one (I guess I could do solo stuff until i find the right people)

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 22 15:38:49 2019 No.10086170 >>10085941 Conventions in my country (though it seems pretty dead), Gyaru thread, cosplay help thread and Feels thread

Anonymous Tue Jan 22 18:21:07 2019 No.10086369
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHyjh57mSOs

so the voice of Amelie for SRproduction is out and i dont know how to feel about it.... I cant tell if the voices are becoming more casual or not.... what does everyone else think?

Anonymous Tue Jan 22 18:50:12 2019 No.10086402

>>10083977
if the Butterfly Graffiti girl were thin you all would be singing her praises. This is a really good performance and it's rare to see something like it on an actual stage in front of a live audience- she's clearly engaged them too, and they're totally on her side and feeding into and from her energy. She has stage presence- and NOT very many odottemita performances have that at all.

tl;dr second video is actually good get over yourselves.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 22 18:53:42 2019 No.10086404 >>10086402 This. People are so set on hating fat girls and say “if they’re trying to better themselves by dancing then it’s okay” but still put them down when they do well and above everyone else. She did great.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 22 19:09:57 2019 No.10086420 >>10086369 whoa she talk waaaay fast

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 22 19:20:13 2019 No.10086431 >>10086420 God I thought it was just me ok yeah I imagined this character to be a lot more reserved and careful. This girl needs to breathe

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 22 19:57:17 2019 No.10086465 >>10086135 It’s got a pretty good story and lovely art (earlier stuff looks like crap, but new stuff is great), plus we just like dressing up virtual people in pretty clothes

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 22 19:58:41 2019 No.10086467 >>10086431 Yeah, I’m kind of glad that I got sick when I did. I’m sure they’ll improve over time, but the theatre kid in me is screaming

Anonymous Tue Jan 22 20:49:00 2019 No.10086501

>>10086369
I feel really bad because I know this VA personally and we're good friends. They're a very sweet person and honestly super kind and caring, but I agree-- way too fast and with little to no inflection. They're a theatre kid at their school and can sing decently well, but I'm still thrown by how NERVOUS they sound for this. Also- the whole "playing piano then turned and found idol music" sound familiar to anyone else, especially knowing San's background with LNAV?

Anonymous Tue Jan 22 21:02:35 2019 No.10086509

>>10086501
If you're good friends, hopefully you're in a position to give them some gentle concrit and help them work on pacing their speech out! It'd be good to see some improvement from them. And yeah, the backstory is super familiar - did the VAs have influence over that or were they totally designed by the person running SRProductions?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 22 21:22:17 2019 No.10086541 >>10086467 same I was too sick to audition sadly, winter flu is the worst

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 22 21:23:51 2019 No.10086546 >>10086420 >>10086431 i agree she talks way too fast but i can somewhat hear those small pauses of her breathing in

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 22 21:29:24 2019 No.10086555 Performing has made me very self conscious about my weight. Does anyone else diet to try to fit the Japanese idol standards weight?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 22 21:35:58 2019 No.10086566 >>10086555 You kidding? Performing is suppose to be fun. It doesn’t matter what your body type is and if people judge you screw them!

Anonymous Tue Jan 22 22:21:08 2019 No.10086640

>>10086566
I mean, to an extent you're right. Ultimately what everyone on this board should be doing is having fun and not trying to compare themselves to a real Japanese idol. That being said, it's hard to do this while overweight. I'm a fat performer myself, and it's definitely holding me back from where I want to be. I'd like to be able to dance harder stuff and not get out of breath, and the only way to do that is to be healthier. But >>10086555 , please don't worry so much about a number on a scale or a particular diet or size. Your focus should be on becoming healthier and stronger, so your performances improve, not trying to have the waist of a skinny Japanese teen.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 22 23:01:46 2019 No.10086694 File: 393 KB, 610x899, LLsunrise.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Surprised to see no one talking about this.. Not much to say on the matter myself, hope the girl is doing okay.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 22 23:04:10 2019 No.10086697 File: 75 KB, 492x933, LLsunrise2.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10086694 Samefagging, seems like something happened behind the scenes here..

Anonymous Tue Jan 22 23:28:03 2019 No.10086736

>>10086640
>please don't worry so much about a number on a scale or a particular diet or size.
>Your focus should be on becoming healthier and stronger, so your performances improve, not trying to have the waist of a skinny Japanese teen.

Absolutely agree, you don't have to be petite to be cute or to be a good performer!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G03ifZwtXNA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Mhn21U1Uwk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ljn-IqfEes8

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 22 23:56:29 2019 No.10086769 >>10086402 If you read what was said, it was said that she was the best out of all the videos, has nothing to do with weight. chill

Anonymous Tue Jan 22 23:58:41 2019 No.10086773

>>10086404

Dude no one is hating on her because she's a little heavier where the hell did you guys even get that from. Stop assuming. I said she was the best and definitely has the most potential out of their group. You all need to stop pushing weight onto everything when it wasn't discussed. Who cares if she's a little heavier, she's a good dancer and that's all that matters.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 00:03:37 2019 No.10086781 >>10086501 Wait what's san's background

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 01:32:17 2019 No.10086872 >>10086501 San? Like San Khon the incel?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 01:43:27 2019 No.10086879 >>10086872 Different san

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 04:04:05 2019 No.10086933 File: 286 KB, 1242x748, 2DEE8FF6-AB66-4DE8-881E-4E6EB4227158.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10086694 >>10086697 Is it possible she just really didn’t want to leave but decided to for her health like they said.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 04:54:42 2019 No.10086942 >>10086694 That does explain the confusion over the picture of sunrise that was posted somewhere up here

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 05:25:23 2019 No.10086951 >>10086555 I have been dieting but not necessarily because of the idol stuff, more just because I want to adopt a healthier lifestyle in general. Like the other anons said, your size has nothing to do with your performance, just focus on having fun!

Anonymous Wed Jan 23 08:15:03 2019 No.10087021

>>10086555
I guess it's just my bias from watching Japanese idols, but heavy idols rarely look graceful and always seem like they're struggling. Like another anon said, the weight holds performers back, why wouldn't you want to be thin (and healthy) if you want to do this as your main hobby?

Anonymous Wed Jan 23 14:09:37 2019 No.10087399

>>10087021
Because plenty of fat performers can look adorable too. You can have your bias but not everyone wants what you want. being fat literally doesnt matter and isn't a handicap for this hobby. Anon just needs to get better at dancing and more in shape which loosing weight won't make that magically happen. I like fatter girls performing more personally, I'm not a big fan of thin idols. It's one of the biggest reasons I like netidols more, their body types are cuter than jpop idols.

Anonymous Wed Jan 23 17:11:06 2019 No.10087530

>>10087399
Hi, I'm >>10086640. First of all, thank you for acknowledging that being in shape isn't always the same as being thin, and that being fat isn't automatically a handicap for this hobby. I'm just jumping in to add that it sometimes can be a handicap though, depending on the person. Like I said in my post, my weight is a big factor in why I struggle with harder dances. I didn't expand on that, but I also have trouble singing and dancing at the same time, and I have joint problems that are caused by my weight that hurt and make it hard to practice. For me, losing weight is going to be necessary to become a better dancer, but that's not meant to be a generalization for everyone. I know fat dancers who have the strength and stamina to rock their performances, and I know skinny girls who still suffer from chronic pain and are uncoordinated and don't have the strength to keep up.

So your weight is not the only factor that determines your skill, but to say it's not a handicap is definitely not true in some cases. But also like I said, the focus for us should be on strength and health, and whatever weight loss that occurs because of that is healthy and will make us better dancers. Focusing on a number on a scale isn't a good approach. Also thanks for your support for plus size net-idols, it means a lot to my confidence to hear that! :)

Anonymous Wed Jan 23 18:36:55 2019 No.10087577

Hi I’d like to share a PSA:

Weight loss is achieved by eating good foods in less amounts. Drink water. Cut out high sugars, sodium, etc. Exercise is great but that’s toning. Don’t look at scales since you can lose fat, gain muslce, and weigh the same.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 19:18:23 2019 No.10087598 >>10085866 You made me laugh

Anonymous Wed Jan 23 19:33:16 2019 No.10087608
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How is Stellure so bad at planning? Why leave costumes to the very last minute? How the hell is she gonna make a costume a day, especially with other stuff on her plate??

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 20:31:26 2019 No.10087641 >>10087608 Oh sure, she will make a costume a day, but they're going to look like garbage.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 01:37:22 2019 No.10087776 >>10087608 She does it by herself? Why don't the rest of the group help? and if that's the case and the others get everything and only have to practice, they don't have any excuse for the level they are at

Anonymous Thu Jan 24 01:57:11 2019 No.10087782

>>10087776
Mimi is a control freak and wants to be the center of attention. The other group members want to help, but she want to show everyone ~how hard she works to make stellure happen~ then complain about all the work she does to gain sympathy points.

Anonymous Thu Jan 24 07:43:57 2019 No.10087901

>>10087776
I do believe she makes less and less of the costumes, I think she "only" does 4 of the girls this time around compared to way more of them before, and they're all more of her body type. I think hers is also almost finished so I actually think that if she sticks to this planning it won't be as bad

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 09:18:19 2019 No.10087916 The Snowbound outfits look a little more like real stage clothes than overdressed anime Love Live stuff. I'm excited to see how they turn out, and I'm glad Mimi isn't trying to make all nine.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 09:51:06 2019 No.10087929 >>10087782 How do you know that the other members want to help but she doesn't help them?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 09:57:08 2019 No.10087932 Can we stop bringing up Stellure? They’re so amateur and sad it’s a waste of time to talk about them when they’re not getting any better

Anonymous Thu Jan 24 10:29:32 2019 No.10087949

>>10087932
Like it's been said already, Stellure gets brought up a lot because they're the ones actively doing things. If you want other content here, then find some other groups to link here and start a discussion. You also can just ignore discussion you're not interested in, rather than asking everyone else to censor themselves for you.

Anonymous Thu Jan 24 11:03:25 2019 No.10087964

>>10087932
>They’re so amateur
Like literally everyone else?

>sad it’s a waste of time to talk about them
It’s unfortunate you feel this way but no one cares. Onward.

>they’re not getting any better
In some ways no but in others yes. They’re starting to learn which is more than we could’ve said in the past.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 12:58:28 2019 No.10087994 >>10087964 Is this thread meant to talk about idols or to talk shit about idols?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 13:00:30 2019 No.10087996 So I guess since this is kinda eh. Who are the worst idols you’ve seen? I guess if people wanna talk shit I’ll ask a question lmao

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 13:47:36 2019 No.10088014 >>10087994 Its almost always talking shit. Belongs on lolcow.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 14:01:34 2019 No.10088018 >>10087996 Can we not? This is the kind of question that got this thread shut down a while ago. It's fine to critique and discuss individuals, but this is just going to lead to everyone shitting on a few people until the thread gets nuked. Let's not.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 14:02:33 2019 No.10088020 >>10087994 Either or? It's 4chan. Have you literally checked any other thread?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 16:36:56 2019 No.10088075 >>10088020 Why do idol thread gulls think that every thread on cgl is full of catty bitching like their own? Have YOU checked any other thread?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 16:59:51 2019 No.10088088 >>10088075 Bad photoshop threads? Bad cosplay threads? Ita threads? Anons like you complaining about people being bitchy are shitting up the thread worse than anyone actually being bitchy.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 17:13:28 2019 No.10088095 >>10088088 Everything but the ita thread is slow as fuck and never near the top of the catalog like this thread is.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 17:34:45 2019 No.10088106 >>10088095 Maybe because people keep coming in, spewing bullshit from both sides, and don’t fucking sage said bullshit.

Anonymous Thu Jan 24 17:50:27 2019 No.10088115

>>10088095
>near the top of the catalog like this thread is.
Just hide the thread then if seeing it bumped upsets you so much.

>>10084854
>It’s seems like a lot of new things are being created and new groups are being formed
Anyone here have plans to debut some time this year? (Going solo or forming a group? Practicing dancing or singing? Covers or original songs? etc.)

I'm not really aspiring to be a net idol, but I have been considering doing some vocal covers for fun and maybe even taking commissions for art and editing photos/videos for net idols.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 18:00:09 2019 No.10088122 >>10088115 It was said as an example showing how much more rampant bitching goes on in this thread compared to the myth of others being the same, genius

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 18:07:49 2019 No.10088123 This "net idols are so bitchy" argument is just the same shit as the "net idol threads don't belong on /cgl/" argument with anons being willfully stupid just to derail.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 18:22:14 2019 No.10088126 >>10088123 Where DO they fit in in the categories in the sticky though? Serious question since apparently no one can answer it.

Anonymous Thu Jan 24 18:22:40 2019 No.10088127

>>10088115
For a while, I wanted to start a project that rides along the lines of PriPara, IM@S, LL, etc. Anime/virtual group that also has a real life counterpart. Basically Interlunium and Vivacu, but more English and Japanese and in one solid location. Biggest issue though is I lack a lot of resources for these kinds of projects so they’re typically put on hold.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 18:26:42 2019 No.10088129 >>10088018 Well that’s what you all seem to want to do. I’m just saying cuz y’all keep talking shit about stellure

Anonymous Thu Jan 24 18:27:18 2019 No.10088130

Here's some new stuff I don't think has been posted yet:

Julily's live performance - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8bfpNFvQrOs

Aikan - A Happy Death dance and vocal cover - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vX0m3pU4P8A

Idolized - Omoi yo Hitotsu dance and cosplay cover - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIc_6b8VnIY

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 18:28:22 2019 No.10088131 >>10088129 Are you 12?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 18:29:18 2019 No.10088132 >>10088123 I just wish some people would put themselves out there. I’ve personalky talked with some people who said they love singing and dancing but are too scared to go to an audience

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 18:31:36 2019 No.10088133 >>10088131 Uh no I’m not.

Anonymous Thu Jan 24 18:32:15 2019 No.10088134

>>10088126
Gentle reminder to everyone not to reply to posts like these because there's been an influx of people trying to derail these threads and get them shut down recently. We've been over it so many times and they keep repeating themselves, so don't take the bait.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 18:34:58 2019 No.10088137 >>10088134 More like “don’t stir the pot”

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 18:36:39 2019 No.10088138 >>10088133 Then stop acting like a goddamn whiny kid.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 19:04:43 2019 No.10088149 >>10088134 Again, not an answer. It’s been two threads with no answer. Pathetic.

Anonymous Thu Jan 24 19:06:41 2019 No.10088150

>>10088127
>>10088115 here. I've been especially wanting to do art of characters for a virtual idol group, if I can ever find a suitable project someday.

What resources in particular are you lacking? And by one solid location, you mean all the members living close enough to be able to meet up often for practices and live performances?

>>10088132
I'm guessing you might have meant to reply to me? Sorry if I'm wrong.
I can relate to those people. I don't think I could ever perform outside of vocal covers posted online at most.

Anonymous Thu Jan 24 19:18:10 2019 No.10088156

>>10088150
Primarily, money. But musicians, artists, etc. for the really simply but important stuff. It’s ironic because I have access to things like a practice room (albeit a small one and some at my college, it’s one nonetheless), industry professionals that can give guidance, etc. So it’s more of only having part of resources that most people don’t have while lacking what most people can find. I’m also a stickler for quality.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 19:18:38 2019 No.10088157 Lol I love how when I post the sticky or ask the question on how these threads belong on cgl according to it the posts get deleted. Nice janny. You know it’s true.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 20:21:09 2019 No.10088202 >>10088138 Me? Ah HELL NO

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 20:22:15 2019 No.10088203 >>10088156 Is it bad that I legit try to play idol music on the guitar and stuff?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 20:24:32 2019 No.10088209 >>10088203 No I don’t think it’s bad. As someone who owns a guitar and a piano but can’t play or practice, you’re doing better than I am.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 20:30:45 2019 No.10088216 >>10088203 Not at all! An understanding of music and chords carries over no matter what you're playing it on, and a lot of songs get written just by dinking around on a piano or guitar. I think it's cool!

Anonymous Thu Jan 24 20:57:30 2019 No.10088233
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>>10088156
>Primarily, money.
>I’m also a stickler for quality.
Totally understandable. I hope one day you'll have the all the resources able to create your ideal group, anon!

>>10088203
Not bad at all, pretty cool actually! What songs do you play?

Anonymous Thu Jan 24 20:58:46 2019 No.10088236

>>10088115

I used to be part of a LL group but had to quit because of personal stuff. I was considering rejoining eventually but I’m really just... not a fan of the drama that comes with these things. I’m considering going solo and singing/performing at cons but I haven’t made up my mind yet.

Honestly one of the biggest barriers for me is that I have a really deep voice for a girl and can’t sing 90% of female idol songs without pitching them down. And I’m not really interested in male idol groups. There’s some general anisongs I’d love to sing covers of but I’m not sure if that’s good for idol festivals.

Anonymous Thu Jan 24 21:36:44 2019 No.10088256

>>10088236
LL groups definitely seem to be among the worst for drama, partially because their fans are younger and partially because the groups are large by default. The more people get involved in something, the more potential there is for drama. If you can find just a few likeminded people and form a small group you might have a pretty good time! And I'm an alto singer too - I totally feel that. There's nothing wrong with pitching songs. They have a warmer, more mature feel when pitched down, or you could look into making your own music that's within your vocal range!

Anonymous Thu Jan 24 21:37:06 2019 No.10088257

>>10088236

There have been plenty of idols that sing in a lower voice.
A lot of the ones that come to mind are from 80s-2000s though.

Koda Kumi
https://youtu.be/kxEcbQKy10Q

Maki Goto
https://youtu.be/n-twvZVda7Y

Akina Nakamori
https://youtu.be/MaMhp6PeOOg

Pink Lady
https://youtu.be/F85YfjHrzTo

So on and so on. Also, a lot of idols, and people in the music industry in japan anyway, end up doing songs for anime anyway, so I don’t see why singing a couple anime songs would hurt.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 25 00:09:43 2019 No.10088342 >>10088233 I’ve been learning songs that are both American and Japanese :)

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 25 00:22:36 2019 No.10088347 >>10088257 Junko from Zombieland Saga is a legendary Shouwa era idol and she has a surprinsing deep voice. It’s neat.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 25 01:19:36 2019 No.10088383 >>10088257 How could I forget? Momoe Yamaguchi https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_BJ3wDWRuA

Anonymous Fri Jan 25 03:44:33 2019 No.10088436

>>10088236

Check out Makoto from Idolmaster, she has the lowest range out of all of the girls in 765 but is still given a mix of song styles from the fluffy girly ones like Jitensha to the moodier tones you get from EdeN and her solo song which has a jazzy sound. The name of it escapes me at the moment.
Bonus points if you look androgynous.

Anonymous Fri Jan 25 04:03:36 2019 No.10088447

>>10088236
If you ever look into vocal lessons (or look into it yourself), you’ll be able to reach higher ranges with practice both by changing your own and by staying in your range. It takes a bit of practice and the songs don’t always sound perfect but it comes in handy!

Anonymous Fri Jan 25 06:26:43 2019 No.10088484

>>10088115
>Anyone here have plans to debut some time this year? (Going solo or forming a group? Practicing dancing or singing? Covers or original songs? etc.)
I know a couple of AKB dances from an old dance group I was part of; I don't think I'd try to be a net idol right now, but I have been thinking that it would be fun to record dancecovers of the ones I still remember just to get back in to the whole thing. My countries con-scene doesn't really care about j-pop at all anyways, k-pop dance covers seem to be popular but I've never been in to that. I'm happy to do my own thing tho.

Anonymous Fri Jan 25 07:35:50 2019 No.10088511

>>10088484

I'm in a group that's looking to get started (not Love Live). They wanted to debut at the end of last year before I joined but health issues took over so they had to cancel. Since then we've had a few more members join so it just makes more sense to do it with all of us and start fresh.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 25 08:47:01 2019 No.10088547 File: 1.22 MB, 1384x2160, 19-01-25-08-45-56-362_deco.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Pizzayolo has announced the title of their debut song. Thoughts?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 25 09:33:24 2019 No.10088572 >>10088547 Oh God, is that actually real?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 25 09:50:27 2019 No.10088588 File: 59 KB, 920x920, 8F5DCB54-2E58-428C-85A5-6247C35A19E7.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10088547

Anonymous Fri Jan 25 10:18:53 2019 No.10088606

>>10088115
I'm actually hoping to start uploading singing+dancing covers (if you consider that netidol activity, I know some don't). The only thing holding me back is my singing. It's not bad but a day after recording I always feel like I can do better

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 25 10:25:55 2019 No.10088613 >>10088547 Honestly, predictable. Aside from pizzayolo being a horrible name of course. I hope the song makes up for it but we'll see.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 25 11:59:52 2019 No.10088656 >>10088572 >>10088613 Y'all rag on this but rave over randomly silly themed j-idol groups from japan.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 25 12:45:06 2019 No.10088665 >>10088588 Now I actually want pizza

Anonymous Fri Jan 25 13:10:34 2019 No.10088676
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I'm starting to think that with the promo stellure has been posting, they might have more than just 1 new song in store? They seem to be different costumes. Any thoughts on this? I am actually wondering what they are planning, I thought they'd only join the masquerade

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 25 13:27:21 2019 No.10088684 >>10088656 This, have some humor

Anonymous Fri Jan 25 13:37:23 2019 No.10088692

>>10088676
I noticed the same. There seems to be three types of promo art going out right now - the actual designs for Snowbound in the song's cover art; the earlier wintry outfits posted with the trios of girls, and these glowy cyber looking ones. I'm guessing the trio art was earlier outfit concepts for Snowbound. For the glowy ones, they look a lot like redesigned Overdriver outfits, especially if you look at the pointy purple skirt Mimi's making and compare it to the cover of Overdriver. Either that or some type of transforming/tearaway outfit for the masquerade? Either way it seems they're planning something big, and I hope they pull it off. Secretly hoping for a surprise Overdriver video alongside the performance of Snowbound, because Titania's a good singer and that song sounded like it has a lot of potential.

Anonymous Fri Jan 25 13:43:47 2019 No.10088694

>>10088692
Double posting to correct myself - checked the posts again and someone pointed out the hair accessories are the same between the glowy art and the Snowbound art, so it's probably got nothing to do with Overdriver. If they're doing transforming outfits it also makes sense why Mimi gave herself 8 days to sew outfits for 4 people and mandated 1 outfit a day.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 25 14:53:57 2019 No.10088732 >>10088484 i follow some girl from ohio who i heard was gonna start doing idol stuff but i dont remember her name

Anonymous Sat Jan 26 06:05:26 2019 No.10089295

>>10088547
>>10084248
Ooh, I'm anticipating this song'll be fun and goofy, maybe even along the lines of Ai Like Hamburger ("Heart-melting melty cheese, love as spicy as pepperoni"... I'm no lyricist lol). And I wonder if it'll be Eurobeat like Honey Hype and We Wanna Have It All.

>>10088236
>can’t sing 90% of female idol songs without pitching them down
I'm sure most people wouldn't mind you performing pitched-down songs! It'd probably be a nice change of pace.

>There’s some general anisongs I’d love to sing covers of but I’m not sure if that’s good for idol festivals.
Go for it! Especially since these idol festivals (always?) take place at anime cons, there's bound to be plenty of people who'll enjoy it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MlsnYmb500s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJP-L_71uVw

Anonymous Sat Jan 26 09:33:29 2019 No.10089329

>>10088256
>>10088257
>>10088436
>>10088447
>>10089295

Thanks for the encouragement/song ideas, gulls! I’ve been debating whether or not this is something I want to try for a few months, but I’m feeling a bit more confident now. I’ve never taken vocal lessons, but I’m thinking I’ll try to find an instructor and take a few classes before starting for real.

To the anon who mentioned im@s, I actually have some of Makoto’s songs on my idea list! I appreciate idols with lower voices so much because of my own low alto voice.

The anisongs I have in mind are more on the side of Jrock though... and all sung by dudes. Ah well. They’re in my voice range, and so many idol performers are all in the same cutesy pop genre it might be fun to mix things up a bit.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 26 09:55:40 2019 No.10089334 >>10089329 More rock idol performances please! We have enough people doing the cutesy thing.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 26 11:36:13 2019 No.10089397 >>10089334 Maybe babymetal songs??

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 26 13:52:22 2019 No.10089459 >>10089334 Jenny from One Wish seems to be going for the rock style. It will be fun to see something different

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 26 16:36:27 2019 No.10089540 >>10089459 There’s also a few OIC trainees that are doing that, I think GuroNeko and Risa Rose?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 26 17:01:05 2019 No.10089565 >>10085543 I missed meidoroids for the Q&A panel. I looked them up to see what I missed not much. Don't do Maria dirty. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKne9SzvJ78

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 26 18:10:15 2019 No.10089592 >>10089565 Aw, those outfits aren't doing anyone justice. It's making them look frumpy. They're generally in sync but something is missing from their dance. Energy? Snappiness? Or expression?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 26 18:25:41 2019 No.10089602 >>10089565 these seem better than most fatty chans, but why is it always the really fat cringey girls who do stuff like this.

Anonymous Sat Jan 26 18:42:49 2019 No.10089614

>>10089602
I don't even think they're that big, except for the Luka a bit. Their limbs seem normal size and their centers are wide - maybe they're the kind who carry their weight in their torso, or maybe it's just the bad outfits. Either way, the Luka's the only one that might be considered fat and she's doing better with accuracy and expression than the other two.

Anonymous Sat Jan 26 18:43:26 2019 No.10089615

>>10089565

They're very limp and look so serious in the face you could almost imagine them being forced to dance at gunpoint... it isn't the worst really because there is sync and nice movement, but only the girl in the pink wig is smiling, so it feels super lifeless.

I love Garnidelia but Gokuraku Jodo is done to death, I'm kinda sick of seeing covers of it. Are there any covers of songs you've seen done way too many times?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 26 19:21:01 2019 No.10089652 >>10089615 >Are there any covers of songs you've seen done way too many times? Happy Synthesizer. Easily.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 26 22:29:12 2019 No.10089805 >>10089615 Or Lamb/Pink Cat. I havent seen newer ones like love swing or Adva k davara

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 27 00:39:31 2019 No.10089858 >>10089334 I want do more rock songs but I feel like it won't fit with my groups image

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 27 03:43:45 2019 No.10089897 File: 3.52 MB, 1242x2208, 500A7AE5-67D0-489C-8215-3152D0F8FEDB.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] apparently teya’s new flop group just had a photoshoot ngl the other members don’t look bad

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 27 05:16:34 2019 No.10089921 >>10089858 It can be good to have an individual style though. You could do rock-y stuff on your own and then do whatever with your group, or ask your group if they’d be interested in using your style every so often

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 27 13:02:04 2019 No.10090094 >>10089615 What’s funny is a few years ago I would have said Aitakatta or Heavy Rotation, but nobody really does AKB anymore. Nowadays, I’d say that I’ve seen over a million Koi ni Naritai covers.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 27 13:50:16 2019 No.10090140 >>10088547 This looks really cute ! I love how unique the concept is. Also how varied the girls look will appeal to a large about of girls. I hope they do well

Anonymous Sun Jan 27 13:53:22 2019 No.10090144

>>10087916
This. I also think they will look really cool. I’ve personally liked the last two. You guys can hate on Stellure all you want but the truth is most ‘idols’ buy their stuff from Taobao and it isn’t original ideas so. I also think the past Outfit was really cute and clean. Regardless of Mimi, I think that they are a step above normal idol cover groups.

Anonymous Sun Jan 27 13:54:04 2019 No.10090146

>>10089897
Isn't this how her other group berryZ whatever started? They had a promising photoshoot with a few cute girls.

Then they bought 8000 pages likes, hyped the shit out of their debut performance, cancelled their debut performance, and then disbanded. Lol. Wonder why she expects it to go any better this time?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 27 16:06:34 2019 No.10090257 >>10090146 damn whatT yikes

Anonymous Sun Jan 27 16:37:02 2019 No.10090285
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>>10090257
Took some digging (I guess I deleted old screenshots and their FB page is gone now), but I found this. Berriteam was an old dance group that Teya was in, and you can find their youtube channel here - https://www.youtube.com/user/XBerriXchanX - with dance covers as old as 7 years. At some point, Teya decided to revamp it as BerriTeam Victory with new members, got a nice photoshoot done, and their page suspiciously grew to over 8k followers in a matter of days. However, none of their posts got more than a few likes and comments, so there were more than a few suspicions that the page likes were bought. (Didn't stop Teya from gloating on her personal page about having more likes than Amina, who she was fighting with at the time.) They hyped up their debut at Anime Midwest for a good long while and then this happened, and we never heard from them again. I guess Teya's hoping it'll be different this time around.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 27 17:12:40 2019 No.10090299 >>10090285 big yikes they didn’t even debut? kind of sad maybe that’s what she’s trying to do, actually make it to a stage lolol

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 27 17:24:21 2019 No.10090308 Danzoo Dash released a dance cover of Onegai Cinderella. This is really aesthetically pleasing even though the dance is simple. I really like the outfits and setting! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QeDhJDNYOp4

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 27 18:54:33 2019 No.10090384 >>10090308 The video is really really pretty but GOD it's so boring to watch. They seem like uninterested robots. Super cute cover though and i love the outfits, but super SUPER boring

Anonymous Sun Jan 27 19:11:30 2019 No.10090406
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Is it just me, or do all of One Wish's things look like they used paint. Like what are these colors and this text font. Nice girls and I like the group, but whoever does their graphics needs to pick up a good editing tool that's not paint.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 27 19:39:24 2019 No.10090425 >>10090406 I’m pretty sure it’s Grace

Anonymous Sun Jan 27 20:57:04 2019 No.10090490

>>10090308
i love the setting and quality, I just really wish they had more energy? it's really boring and they're basically stepping in place. I understand the location may involve some limitation in terms of dancing but at least put more bounce into the movement.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 27 21:11:54 2019 No.10090510 >>10090285 I still remember going to watch it and finding out from one of the staff members in the room that the performance was cancelled, like 10 minutes before it was supposed to start.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 27 21:45:22 2019 No.10090541 >>10090510 But didn’t this also happen with her other group berriteam? I thought they were once supposed to go to idol matsuri

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 28 03:52:13 2019 No.10090681 >>10090308 It's super cute, but I don't get why they put the one with the pigtails as the one on the front. she barely even steps aside even though she pretty much has the most space to do this

Anonymous Mon Jan 28 08:32:38 2019 No.10090757

>>10090681
Or the one with the short hair for the front during the chorus. Like she clearly is watching something and doesn't know the dance very well, she looks very confused. I think they should have had the girl with the pink accents in front, she seems the most into it

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 28 08:41:14 2019 No.10090765 >>10090406 I really dislike their member art. The pupils/eyes freak me out. But at least the members have cute outfits in this drawing

Anonymous Mon Jan 28 08:46:28 2019 No.10090766

>>10090757
>they should have had the girl with the pink accents in front, she seems the most into it
You mean Chiyo? I also think that they should have made her a "center" focus for this song as she's supposed to be their princess member. Would have made a lot of sense. I really like Aoki in the middle as a princely type, and she did a great job in the beginning but I agree looked totally lost towards the end. Kinda a shame because when Aoki's facials are on they are amazing.

Overall the facials on this felt too flat. Like I feel like they were trying to go for a princess dreamy vibe but they needed to commit to it more. However, this hands down production wise was their best video. Beautiful

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 28 08:51:59 2019 No.10090769 >>10090308 i really love the expression of the girl in the middle and the movements looks pretty good for the small girl who was on the left. everyone else was pretty meh....

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 28 10:06:43 2019 No.10090790 >>10090541 Probably, I really only started following her when she was promoting BerriTeamV but if she did the same thing at Idol Matsuri I wouldn't be all that surprised

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 28 10:19:11 2019 No.10090794 >>10090406 >>10090425 I know they credited Grace for doing the artwork and logo but i'm pretty sure Holly made that image because if you look at the caption the post has those flower emojis that she always uses

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 28 11:17:58 2019 No.10090843 >>10090285 how long do you think until her new group goes under? Bless?

Anonymous Mon Jan 28 12:10:24 2019 No.10090864

>>10090308
Unfortunately this was boring to me as well. The beginning built up and then it just was a single shot and I felt like they had no energy :< Also their outfits remind me of IMCG ending credits with the white outfits so I’m iffy on giving them too much creativity points on that.

Anonymous Mon Jan 28 13:31:29 2019 No.10090901

>>10090864
I feel that this was a dance that would have immensely benefited from filming with different angles. The parts where the group in the middle were still while the others on the sides were dancing was just awkward because the ones on the sides are a little hidden. It makes the dance look even more boring and dead

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 28 15:44:35 2019 No.10090990 Anyone see what ll sunrises new costumes were?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 28 18:35:47 2019 No.10091124 >>10090864 Cinderella Girls inspired outfits, for a Cinderella Girls cover? No way...

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 28 23:53:25 2019 No.10091335 >>10090843 They’re probably not gonna debut again so who cares. Not to mention, Teya failed at being an idol in Japan so what makes her think she has a chance at all?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 29 04:59:45 2019 No.10091446 https://youtu.be/W2uOdNEV31U At least she’s Australian like the character?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 29 05:27:40 2019 No.10091457 >>10091446 see, I like this one. It's better edited, and she's not trying hard to put on a character voice

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 29 11:29:57 2019 No.10091629 >>10091446 yeah this sounds like she has a lot of character to her compare to the other three

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 29 11:33:30 2019 No.10091636 Anyone going to any of these events? http://overseasidolcollection.com/events/2019-02/

Anonymous Tue Jan 29 13:35:06 2019 No.10091743

Here's something I'd like to hear your thoughts on - the idea of using the masquerade/skit part of anime convention cosplay contests to promote your idol group. Is it good exposure? Does it only make sense if your group is cosplaying characters? I thought it was an interesting jump when Stellure started putting themselves in cosplay contests instead of releasing PVs, since they're basically cosplaying characters they made themselves. But it's been something that other cosplay dance groups have started doing too. Is it an acceptable way to promote yourself, or should they be pushing for idol competitions where non-cosplaying idols can join? How DO you get exposure as a group anyway?

Anonymous Tue Jan 29 14:09:13 2019 No.10091779

>>10091743
There’s a lot to inbox here.

>idea of using the masquerade/skit part of anime convention cosplay contests to promote your idol group
>Does it only make sense if your group is cosplaying characters?
For me this highly depends on whether or not they’re a cosplay group or a “real” group. If they are a cosplay/idolsona group then yes, that’s the only acceptable time do enter masquerade/skit contests. If it’s a “real” group, I don’t think it’s smart. You’re not masquerading as someone else. You’re you.

>when Stellure started putting themselves in cosplay contests instead of releasing PVs, since they're basically cosplaying characters they made themselves
While I think it’s okay to focus on performing than releasing songs & MVs (plenty of underground idols do this), I consider Stellure a special case. Their songs are totally based around who’s going to be at a con, not the group as a whole, which is why we almost never see the whole group together at one time. They’d also have to begin production (costumes, music, etc) months in advance, not weeks, should they want to do videos more. I think they realized that halfway in.

>something that other cosplay dance groups have started doing too.
With cosplay dance groups I feel like it’s okay to do. Much like vocaloid, they’re cosplaying well known characters and are more or less bringing them to life, especially when they sing and are good and match the characters.

>Is it an acceptable way to promote yourself, or should they be pushing for idol competitions where non-cosplaying idols can join?
Like I said, it depends. If they cosplay, yes but they can also push for non-cosplay competitions since they are basically crossing the threshold. Now if they aren’t a cosplay group, then by all means do not enter masquerades/skit contests. Just stick to non-cosplay competitions.

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Anonymous Tue Jan 29 14:12:01 2019 No.10091782

>>10091779 cont
(2/2)

>How DO you get exposure as a group anyway?
Be hella active online and in person. Go to cons, do hallway lives, make business cards if you have to. Online, post content. Covers, bts, fun days, make up games to post online, have a Facebook, Twitter, instagram(s). When you’ve got some traction, contact news outlets that specialize in idols and idol news. A lot of groups only do one or the other and only recently I’ve seen people promoting online and in real life.

Anonymous Tue Jan 29 17:40:01 2019 No.10092006
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If this has been mentioned already I apologize, but I remember an anon speculating why Stellure had multiple outfits/themes for one event (Katsu)

Take a look at their recent posts together. I think they’re annoucing they’re the half time show for Katsucon

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 29 17:42:19 2019 No.10092011 >>10092006 That’s actually pretty cool!

Anonymous Tue Jan 29 18:09:12 2019 No.10092046

>>10092006
That makes a lot more sense than "showtime" and you don't need to rearrange the pictures to spell "half time show". Good for them! The outfits look really good so far, their composer is really improving with every song he makes for them, and their vocals get better with each song too. I genuinely hope they're able to pull off something great for Katsu!

Anonymous Tue Jan 29 20:21:43 2019 No.10092123

I also am thinking the new art and the song art really are the same outfits. Like Stellure will show up wearing the coats and take them off as part of their performance. If they actually manage to make the under black outfits that shiny I will be impressed.

Anonymous Tue Jan 29 21:44:28 2019 No.10092171

>>10091743
What is you do both? Like you don’t promote yourself as an idol during a cpsplay contest but as a cosplayer but during out of cosplay performances you promote yourself as an idol?

Unless of course you end up like Paida and get on the halftime show

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 29 21:51:05 2019 No.10092178 >>10092006 Seems kind of strange. I mean, you would think the convention itself would announce something like that, right?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 30 01:10:38 2019 No.10092301 >>10092178 not really, at least in my experience. It depends on the con.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 30 02:50:27 2019 No.10092329 What is everyone’s opinion on singing English covers of Japanese songs for an idol performance? I’m pretty crafty regarding covers, but I’m not sure how it would be received.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 30 04:23:43 2019 No.10092350 >>10092329 It depends on your translations and fitting of the song. I find that when people translate, sing well, and their lyrics fit the song, it turns out well. But some songs in general are just weird regardless of what you do.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 30 08:55:07 2019 No.10092424 >>10092006 The hand anatomy of the one with red hair is killing me, and Mimi is on her way to a yandere pose.

Anonymous Wed Jan 30 11:33:22 2019 No.10092487

>>10092006
Do these kinds of character groups think they look like this?
>>10092329
Ngl the translations are almost always cringey or don’t rhyme/are obviously not natively English. Even AmaLee, the top person on YouTube who does English covers, sounds bad to me sometimes.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 30 12:57:19 2019 No.10092518 >>10091782 Throw fan support events as well and have fundraising as well. Selling bromides is a good way to get started

Anonymous Wed Jan 30 17:17:37 2019 No.10092670

>>10092329
If you’re Mathew tier, you’re good to go. Love Live cover group tier...eh... You really need a good sense of rhythm, Japanese and English have different cadences and people try waaaay too hard to fit English into Japanese syllables. If you’re not careful, it sounds rushed or drawn out where it shouldn’t be.

Anonymous Thu Jan 31 01:09:04 2019 No.10092990

>>10092329
A lot of it sounds cringe because the singer's voice doesn't sound as authentically cute as a lot of Japanese singers. Either the english singer sounds too mature or too fake-cute. That bothers me more than the actual translation a lot of the times.

Second thing is that the flow can be awkward and certain japanese words don't have a great english translation: ec doki doki = pitter patter? kyun = ?????

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 31 13:21:40 2019 No.10093323 >>10092329 If you transliterate it it’s gonna be cringe no matter how good you sing. It’s better to interpretation the lyrics. A lot of groups just put the Japanese in google translate which is gonna be awkward and cringe most of the time.

Anonymous Thu Jan 31 13:28:10 2019 No.10093334
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regarding dot bless, this is old drama but there’s screenshots of Teya using a racist slur (porch monkey) and having her white friends post pictures of apes next to a black girl aka Aminyan. I really doubt they’ll be allowed to perform at cons unless she completely changes her identity. Not to mention there was that screenshot from the Facebook chat called “I hate Aminyan” that Teya started with a few other dancers I think RitaKelly from citrus. I have to find the screenshot. Also a lot of drama about her in the Minnesota con community. Any girl in Minnesota hoping to perform at cons should distance themselves from Teya. She also lied about being Asian, went to Japan to try and become an idol but gave up after two months and is generally messy. Amina is no angel at all but Teya came out looking the worst from this.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 31 13:31:10 2019 No.10093339 File: 202 KB, 1125x1037, DE5F7A93-5A5D-404E-825E-BCFB01D72CEF.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10093334 I didn’t know what porch monkey meant at first so I had to google it.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 31 14:07:40 2019 No.10093373 Yikes http://www.animeboston.com/cosplay/idol_showcase/

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 31 14:19:52 2019 No.10093382 >>10093373 This sounds more like a cosplay masquerade with an idol theme, rather than an idol showcase.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 31 14:23:36 2019 No.10093389 >>10093373 Isn't this the same showcase entitlized was running and opening for? Double yikes.

Anonymous Thu Jan 31 14:55:48 2019 No.10093430

>>10093373
Yeah that isn't an idol showcase. I can almost understand if they want to discourage original music and outfits since you can't compare them to a source, but there isn't even mention of real actual J-idols here. It's all anime. This is just an anime dance showcase, which is fine, but call it that instead of an idol showcase.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 31 18:40:34 2019 No.10093644 File: 285 KB, 940x708, tripleyikes.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10093373 I did some digging and found more interesting details

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 31 21:08:55 2019 No.10093817 >>10093644 I can’t find anything that references a fee except the post these are from and even on that post there isn’t any actual evidence of that being true

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 31 21:12:16 2019 No.10093824 What's going on with sunrise? Go check the IG stories of their past ruby, the actual You: drama.

Anonymous Thu Jan 31 22:15:48 2019 No.10093875
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>>10093824
I think you mean their Riko? Unless I’m missing something, they’ve had the same cast since 2016 aside from one change. Either way, I found this on Twitter.

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Anonymous Thu Jan 31 23:06:30 2019 No.10093906

>>10093373
This is kind of a dumb question (I'm a beginner) but for cosplay anime dance covers, is it a good idea for the projector screen to show a video clip from the anime of the dance? Instead of a closeup of me dancing?

I have kind of an unfortunate face so I thought that the audience would prefer looking at the anime version and compare it to my dance.

>>10092990
kyun = "throb" (it sounds bad though)

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 31 23:45:31 2019 No.10093935 >>10093824 Please screenshot I don't follow them

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 1 00:53:51 2019 No.10093971 >>10093906 “Vampire Girl, THROB”

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 1 09:37:06 2019 No.10094176 Oh boy. https://www.instagram.com/p/BtM9T_zlk7V/?utm_source=ig_share_sheet&igshid=tnkj838lfiof

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 1 11:13:22 2019 No.10094250 >>10093906 Don't use a clip from the actual dance. I've seen people do it before; it just magnifies any mistakes or imperfections. You're better off using some shots of yourself or even some aesthetic shots to set the mood better.

Anonymous Fri Feb 1 12:32:59 2019 No.10094287

>>10093430
I'm trying to bring some real idol music to break up all the anime music since they did technically say that AKB48 is allowed (they probably meant 0048 but if they did, they should've done their research better lol) so we'll see if that gets accepted

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 1 18:18:11 2019 No.10094462 >>10094176 of course natalie is behind this

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 1 18:44:00 2019 No.10094487 >>10094176 "win your own oc idol group" or just...make your own???

Anonymous Fri Feb 1 19:46:27 2019 No.10094527

>>10094176
The concept of this is so funny because it’s not like you’re actually getting anything out of it besides bad characters and a shitty song. They don’t create anything, someone else’s name is attached as a creator, they still have to find a use for the “idols.” And then if you win and it goes nowhere then it’s just an empty prize.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 1 22:49:34 2019 No.10094644 >>10094176 I've always wanted to see someone enter one of these, win, and then completely destroy the person they got it from in terms of their own personal quality being way better then the person they bought it from.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 2 03:25:10 2019 No.10094731 https://youtu.be/aMywwfK_lf4 Julily is Calliope. They’ve gone back to dead emotionless scripts.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 2 04:24:48 2019 No.10094742 >>10094731 man i really dont like her voice for this. sounds really dead inside for somebody who believes in magic

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 2 10:44:04 2019 No.10094870 >>10093373 Ok holiday matsuri

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 2 10:45:55 2019 No.10094872 >>10094731 This music combined with the voice just reminds me of some kind of loan ad

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 2 10:50:18 2019 No.10094875 >>10094731 It sounds like she's being held by gunpoint...

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 2 10:51:41 2019 No.10094876 >>10094872 I chortled. Thanks, anon

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 2 13:54:41 2019 No.10094967 >>10094731 she was the one that i was going to audition for, i didnt really expect her voice to sound like that.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 2 13:56:45 2019 No.10094970 >>10094731 also is it just me or are they picking people who have quite a following to be part of their group

Anonymous Sat Feb 2 14:48:54 2019 No.10094999

>>10094967
I really didn’t either

>>10094970
They are for sure. I can understand why but at the same time why sacrifice personality and talent for recognition? It almost seems like people are scared of building a genuine following where you have to work for fans these days.

Anonymous Sat Feb 2 17:04:49 2019 No.10095118

>>10094970
I used to do VA/cover project stuff on youtube, unrelated to idols, but similar enough of a concept that people who have a following get picked more often in that community too. Having helped on enough of those projects, there’s a lot of reasons people with followings get picked more often. There is the obvious of picking people with a following lets you benefit from that following. I’ve seen superior auditions lose out to somebody with more of a following, but taking somebody without a following is also a gamble as they’re more likely to flake. If they have an established following they’re more likely to be reliable. Giving people a part and not getting lines is really common.
People with followings also tend to be way better in auditions then they are in lines. Their audition will be great and the project lines will suck. They try their absolute best in audition with voice and emoting, and have the benefit of knowing how to edit their audio. They stop trying when they have the role. A lot of the unknown people that audition for these projects don’t even know how to make their lines into an MP3, and that’s indicative of the overall quality of their audition. “The noise won’t be in there if I get a part,” “please excuse my dog barking,” “I know I was off-key there,” vs. the audition of somebody who has done this before. Unknowns send in recordings from their cameras a lot. You give them a role and they’ve always got technical issues, because they do not know what they’re doing.
Alternatively in people with followings, the audition lines they were given were solid, but the project lines suck when the VA has no direction, and isn’t allowed to change anything (I don’t think VAs should have extensive creative control, but if the material sucks and they can’t change it, they’re doing their best with what they’ve got).
There's a lot of reasons to pick people with followings.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 2 18:18:17 2019 No.10095157 >>10093334 Sounds like a lot of vendetta for someone nobody cares about

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 2 18:33:33 2019 No.10095166 >>10094731 OMG EW. Juliane has a commercial voice (not in a good way) so this is hilarious to me WHAT

Anonymous Sat Feb 2 18:48:08 2019 No.10095176

>>10095157
You are joking, right?
Vendettas aside it is completely inexcusable to run around buying thousands of likes for your do-nothing page and calling people you have your own vendetta against a "porch monkey". I was honestly hoping someone would bring up her past exploits because I definitely don't want to see someone like Teya thriving in the idol com. Not like she could anyway but

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 2 19:15:06 2019 No.10095207 >>10095176 Vendetta because it’s old drama about a nobody idol wannabe. All these flops buy likes, Dakotakoti literally buys likes to gain followers while getting uglier everyday and doing nothing.

Anonymous Sat Feb 2 19:46:08 2019 No.10095228

>>10095207
Here's the thing. People can definitely change and become better, everyone's said some bad stuff in the past before we knew better. Bringing up old drama about someone who's changed into a better person is petty and useless. But, bringing up old drama for someone who hasn't changed at all is just providing context. Since Teya's restarting her idol activities but hasn't actually become a decent person at all, it's important to keep her past in perspective because there's no reason to expect anything to go differently this time.

Anonymous Sat Feb 2 19:54:44 2019 No.10095239

Of all this talk about Teya, I have one question. Everyone brings up the things she’s done in the past which isn’t inherently wrong. However, there has been no proof of her being better or the same. How do we know nothing has changed? What has happened recently that tells us she has or hasn’t changed?

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 2 20:11:10 2019 No.10095259 >>10094731 She does my "Hello I am friendly human, hello there friendly" corporate voice

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 2 20:31:09 2019 No.10095283 >>10094731 Julily is an odd choice for the project period public figure status aside. She’s no emotion and while she’s not a terrible singer (really talented actually), she’s not great or exactly free of problems when it comes to vocals.

Anonymous Sat Feb 2 21:30:38 2019 No.10095332

>>10095157
When you’re trying to be an idol and influence young girls and perform at conventions it really does matter if you use slurs and start shit with literally everyone in your local community. Teya still hasn’t apologized to anyone especially the Minnesota comm who 95% wont work with her because of how toxic she is. If she changed she should’ve apologized instead of playing victim. Word on the street is she’s just as toxic as she was in the past...not to
Mention she started all this drama over some guy who didn’t even want her.

Anonymous Sat Feb 2 21:35:50 2019 No.10095337

>>10095207
Yeah and Teya sure isn’t Dakota. Dakota who was completely homophobic, bitchy and bought followers was able to still have an extremely short lived career because as bad as her shoops were she was still “saleable”. Teya is a mediocre weeb whose only virtues is being a decent dancer. I would rather support someone with a good genuine personality and dedicated to improving. Teya hasn’t improved her personality, singing, Japanese or looks(makeup and whatnot) despite being active for almost 10 years now. If she did a big apology and admitted to fucking up I would have a completely different perspective. Instead she goes from group to group in Minnesota hoping nobody knows how toxic she is. Idols are 75% personality. Nobody wants to support a royal bitter bitch. If she wants to be a shit person she needs to just pursue professional dancing instead.

Anonymous Sat Feb 2 21:49:09 2019 No.10095345
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Teya recently has been fishing on twitter for kissbee to make an American sister group presumably in Minnesota (lmao) like Seishun Gakuin did with AllySally which would give her a bunch of power. This is something people should be aware of and isn’t ~V-vendetta!!!1~
Good thing this won’t happen though because her Japanese is horrible despite her lying about being haafu and she has zero following on social media. It’s worth people being aware. Toxic people shouldn’t get to be in positions of power.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 2 22:38:21 2019 No.10095376 >>10095345 This would never happen, considering she isn’t a member of KissBee and doesn’t know what it’s actually like to be an idol. Most Japanese companies aren’t willing to give their creative works to just anyone to use lol.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 3 00:11:37 2019 No.10095426 >>10094970 two of them at least already had ties with overseas idol collection which is a little disappointing. I think one of them is even san's mentor which is a bit backwards but ok.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 3 11:27:46 2019 No.10095687 >>10095157 Sounds like someone is salty

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 3 11:29:50 2019 No.10095689 >>10095345 Cringy

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 3 12:16:29 2019 No.10095719 >>10085135 they performed at a con recently but said it wasn't their debut on instagram. their social media has something weird going on so maybe that's it??

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 3 13:01:29 2019 No.10095735 >>10095719 It’s almost ARG-ish, I’m intrigued by the whole thing

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 3 22:22:55 2019 No.10096172 I don't really see the hype with Julily? She's a good singer but apart from that I don't see much of anything else? Her voice doesn't seem to suit the character

Anonymous Sun Feb 3 22:40:38 2019 No.10096176

Julily posted the raw audio on her patreon and after listening to it, I don't think her voice acting is the problem. Granted, she is inexperienced at VA, but I think it's the corny background music that makes her vocals sound like an advert or whatever everyone has said.

https://www.patreon.com/posts/calliopes-raw-24433353

Anonymous Mon Feb 4 04:09:44 2019 No.10096363

>>10096176
As someone who’s inexperienced but has done some voice acting and some live acting, she still lacks conviction. Without the music it sounds better but her problem still lies in the fact it’s not a voice people imagined and she has no emotion or “magical” feeling you’d expect from someone who believes in and is connected to magic.

Anonymous Mon Feb 4 11:33:54 2019 No.10096507

>>10095118
You've made some really good points here but I also want point out some other things.
I highly doubt that every single "nobody" who auditioned had noise or dogs barking in the bg of their audition.
We can't deny that choosing people with popularity can be a smart move, but when it appears to be the only driving force in choosing each member, it starts to make the project feel disingenuous in a sense. I say that because as of now, the only good voice was the Australian one. It really seems like popular people were picked regardless of whether or not their voice fit the character.
Amelie, Caliope, and Hitomi were the worst in my opinion.

Anonymous Mon Feb 4 12:19:45 2019 No.10096519

>>10096507
>the only good voice was the Australian one
I agree and let’s also not forget we still haven’t heard VA clips for San and Rhian (I assume they’re coming today and tomorrow). I also find it interesting that they didn’t think of different names for San and Rhian considering that’s their real name/nicknames.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 4 13:16:35 2019 No.10096540 Not much to add right now but there's a new group in the Midwest that's been getting Con bookings facebookDOTcomSLASHShinyDreamers Shiny Dreamers, mostly Love Live stuff. group.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 4 15:11:55 2019 No.10096605 >>10096540 They’ve been around for awhile now. I really like their content- pretty organized. Also their Eli is my headcanon desu. The group is alright with dancing, from what I’ve seen online.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 4 23:53:34 2019 No.10096959 >>10096363 What even does "someone who believes in magic" sound like? Lmao

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 5 00:06:30 2019 No.10096966 >>10096959 A lot more lively than what Julily sounds like that’s for sure. If you’re someone who believes in magic and the power of nature you’re not going to sound like everyone else. You’re gonna be a bit more chipper.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 5 00:44:16 2019 No.10096978 >>10095345 What’s a atrocious about her Japanese? It’s pretty amateur and flavorless but I don’t see any glaring mistakes that make it atrocious.

Anonymous Tue Feb 5 08:00:48 2019 No.10097153

Mimi posted on her Instagram about learning 3 dances for Katsu. If one of those dances is Omoi yo Hitotsu for her cosplay trio, it probably means that their half time show will have 2 songs (hence the 2 costumes). One is Snowbound - any guesses as to the other? I'm still hoping for a live performance of Overdriver.

Anonymous Tue Feb 5 12:15:36 2019 No.10097277

It took you know who like a week to remove herself from the stellure discord after “drama” happened in the vent chat. I’m dying to know what it is because I was at work and didn’t look at the chat before it was removed but I’d love to know but also don’t want to get the thread bah-leeted.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 5 12:18:55 2019 No.10097280 >>10097277 You didn't miss much. It was the exact same thing that happened with OIC and the Amino before that, almost word for word. But yeah, let's not bring her up here. It's not worth it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 5 13:15:16 2019 No.10097317 >>10097280 That’s what I expected. I hope maybe she’s finally learned something if this is now round 2 of these consequences.

Anonymous Tue Feb 5 14:05:33 2019 No.10097339

>>10097317
Oh you know she didn't. The last thing she was saying before she deleted her account was that she was leaving because we all hated her and would be happier without her in the server. She said she was leaving like five times before she actually did, probably hoping someone would beg her to stay.

Anonymous Tue Feb 5 18:24:17 2019 No.10097555

Has anyone kept up with any of the 'Ohio Idol' live things going on? I heard about a group named Ichigo ro and Aki San though this event but since I don't live in Ohio I don't know much, but I really like Ichigo ro's style but from what I saw from a live stream on their facebook from one of their events, they aren't that great, cute, but far from amazing.

Anonymous Wed Feb 6 07:50:48 2019 No.10098185

>>10090308
The only girl performing is in the middle, in the back, and you can hardly see her face. Even though her movements are a bit weaker and floatier than the rest of the group, I still think she's the best one there because there's enthusiasm on her face. The beginning is so good, but then it falls flat because most of the girls have a dead half-smile with no changing expression the entire time despite the fact that the dance isn't hard or complicated.

Anonymous Wed Feb 6 08:09:20 2019 No.10098199

>>10098185
What's the best way to handle facial expressions? I've seen dancers criticized for holding the same smile for a whole dance, but I've also seen criticism for dancers not maintaining their expressions and smiles the whole dance. The middle ground would be maintaining a happy, dynamic expression without looking flat, but what's the best way to do that? (I'm not criticizing your feedback, just looking for discussion.)

Anonymous Wed Feb 6 08:58:45 2019 No.10098214
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>>10098199
I'm honestly not sure how to explain it concisely. I'm just a lurker in these threads, but I danced all throughout my school years and performance was something my coaches drilled into our heads. You have to make your expressions dynamic but in tune to what you're doing, not just randomly making faces. Say you raise your hands? Widen your eyes, do an open mouth smile, but don't keep that face for longer than a few seconds. Going on to the ground? Make sure your head is held up, but try a demure expression or a show of mouthing the lyrics.

The short haired girl (Aoki?) has good expressions in the beginning. A little over the top, but I think that's acceptable in idol dances. And too much performance is better than none.

I'm trying to find a few dances that showcase this well, but the ones that come to mind are all high energy and it's easier to perform more with high energy dances.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljT5WJJLiSY
This is a dance that is higher energy, but their mood feels more stoic (like I believe the first dance was going for). They aren't over the top smiling all over the place, but they (the girl in blue especially) changes expressions every few movements and in time with what they're doing. Sorry, I know I should find a slower dance, but I can't think of many at the moment that show the face clearly.

The take away is to make sure your face shows you're having as much fun as your body. Humans instinctively mirror each other and the energy that good facial expressions give off will make your entire performance look better.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 6 09:37:13 2019 No.10098225 >>10098214 Broadway style dancers are fantastic at facial expressions, so studying them can be really beneficial.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 7 06:34:59 2019 No.10099115 Looks like whomever suggested Stellure doing two songs for their Half time show was right. I just find it odd that they do Overdriver but it's now a Nix center? When it was supposed to be a Titania centered song

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 7 08:41:47 2019 No.10099160 >>10099115 They said Titania is unable to attend so Nix is the new center

Anonymous Thu Feb 7 09:54:00 2019 No.10099210

>>10099115
I just hope it turns out well. Titania is a really strong singer, and vocals are one of Nix's weaker points. Nix also has stage fright, but will need to have a strong presence to match the song. Of course I'm basing this all from their SaikouCon panel which was months ago, and they all have improved since then.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 7 11:44:47 2019 No.10099275 here we are again talking about stellure

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 7 12:20:17 2019 No.10099313 >>10099275 Honestly shut the fuck up. There’s literally nothing else to talk about and they’re performing in just over a week. Want something else to talk about? Bring something to the table.

Anonymous Thu Feb 7 12:30:02 2019 No.10099325

>>10099275
Most other groups are dead, dying, or barely put out content. At least Stellure delivers.

On another note, why does it seem like there aren't there many cover groups that do male idols? I noticed a few here and there. Are the dances too hard or are people just more interested in Lovelive (And now Bandori too?) Idolish7 and Ensemble Stars seem like they have decently seized fandoms but there still aren't as many cover groups as there are for LL.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 7 12:35:26 2019 No.10099329 >>10099325 I feel it’s more along the lines of guys aren’t interested & girls would rather be super cute instead of cross dressing.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 7 13:48:27 2019 No.10099390 >>10099313 Danzoo, Honey Hime, One Wish and Ice Qream all have upcoming performances too

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 7 14:41:08 2019 No.10099427 >>10097339 She deleted her Instagram too and announced a hiatus. Is the finally giving up?

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 7 14:52:47 2019 No.10099433 >>10099427 No she literally did the same thing when she got banned from OIC. she'll be back probably in a day or two.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 7 15:18:29 2019 No.10099446 >>10099427 >>10099433 Go to lolcow if you wanna talk about her, don't get the threads here taken down

Anonymous Thu Feb 7 16:28:01 2019 No.10099487

>>10099313
Nothing else to talk about??? Hmm okay, good to know this thread is dying and all we can talk about is the same group over and over again. There are literally hundreds of idol groups and soloists but you insist on talking about them all the time. so oKAY

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 7 16:47:14 2019 No.10099507 >>10099487 We're in autosage anyway. Make a new thread and change the topic, Anon. >>10099329 That makes sense. I just assumed the fujos would have leaped at the chance to be ~real boy aidorus uwu~ like a dumbass.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 7 17:40:17 2019 No.10099547 >>10099507 My comm has like 3 boy idol cover groups and can confirm lots of fujos but lots are also gender queer or trans as well.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 7 18:03:01 2019 No.10099576 I've been slacking lately, my apologies new thread >>10099573

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 8 10:09:39 2019 No.10100061 >>10099446 There’s no idol thread there

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 8 15:51:44 2019 No.10100276 >>10099446 Lmao as if not actually naming anyone is going to have a thread taken down again. Stop being paranoid

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