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Jfashion and cosplay unpopular opinions. Please stay civil and don't jump at each others throats in case of disagreement.

>> No.9927732

>>9927714
Angelic Pretty should really stop making super busy sweet printed dresses. They will never achieve the same success as their 2009-2011 glory days.

>> No.9927746
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>>9927732
Kinda piggybacking on this - I wish lolita in general would go back to its roots.
When RinRin posted these two pics on her insta and sort of laughed at the styling from 2011, I couldn't help feeling sad - When did the fashion become so normie? Not just in appearance but in mindset? Sure, the designs we see today are often very OTT, but it seems like there's a certain mindset that's prevalent now that dressing up like this is "ridiculous" and "silly", as if lolita fashion lost everything that was fun about it.
When did it become embarrassing to dress up to the nines like in 2011 or 2001?

>> No.9927749

I don't know why people get all up in arms about conlitas. I'm more of a weekend lolita, but I totally get why people would want to treat it as occasionwear for special events. Wearing it daily or a few times a month isn't inherently "better" than wearing it only a couple times per year, and vice versa.

>> No.9927758

>>9927749
It's not about the amount of times you get to wear it in a year as it is the "purpose" you give the clothes, if that makes sense?
When gulls refer to "conlitas" they likely mean girls who put together ridiculous OTT coords specifically for conventions, they only wear these coords at cons (and maybe at meetups), few if any of their items work together so they have a collection of ensembles instead of a functional fashion wardrobe, which essentially makes them look like they're treating the fashion like cosplay, and usually it shows.
Is it a terrible horrible crime? Well, no, you (a general you) can wear the fashion however you like, whenever you like. But don't be surprised if people criticize you when you blatantly treat it like a costume.

>> No.9927790

>>9927732
Honestly I rather see them try than keep putting out the same flow-y polyester shit they have been.

I'm a die-hard sweet and the only dresses worth buying are over 5 years old.

>> No.9927795

>>9927790
Agreed. I think the prints would look so much better on different dress cuts than "chiffon covered sack"

>> No.9927890

>>9927714
I Do Declare is not a lolita brand and is overpriced for what it is

>> No.9927906
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People need to stop lying about wearing lolita daily for lolita cred. Most of the people in my comm who claim to be daily lolitas only have like 3 or 4 main pieces, and one girl claims on RC to not even own any normie clothes even though she lives in my neighborhood and every time I see her outside of a meetup she’s wearing jeans or leggings and a t-shirt or hoodie. Calling her out would just cause unnecessary drama in my comm, but I still get the urge every time she posts about it.

>> No.9927907

>>9927890
I would have disagreed with you before but I bought her collab blouse and it's the worst piece of shit I've ever bought. Would be ok for $10 taobao but the price is insane.

>> No.9927909

>>9927746
It's like you're only looking at some of the coords and ignore everything that doesn't fit your narrative

>> No.9927917

>>9927907
I hate to sound like a WK, but her collab blouse wasn't made by her usual seamstress, but by Haenuli's. I can't vouch for the rest of her shit though.

>> No.9927924

>>9927746
idgi
You first say you wish lolita went back to its roots, but then say that there is a mindset of OTT being seen as ridiculous and silly.
Imo lolita's roots are as a street fashion. OTT is new thinking from only about several years ago. Very different to its roots.

>> No.9927932

Lolita lost the charm it had back then. Coords just arent the same

>> No.9927962

I hate Alice in Wonderland/card prints more than any other motif.

>> No.9927964

>>9927909
>>9927924
Maybe my post was badly worded, sorry - I meant to say that I wish lolita went back to it roots as a subversive alternative fashion, rather than something silly and OTT to wear at special events and nowhere else.
I know that daily lolitas exist, I'm one of them actually so I do my best to be the change I want to see; I just wish it was more common.

>> No.9927966

Any gulls who hate fatties and want to bully fatties out of the fashion should just gouge their eyes out. We're not going anywhere and some of us secretly revel in your ana-chan-level fathate. Sorry you lost your bf to a girl with some meat on her bones.

>> No.9927972

>>9927966
The only thing a fatty is stealing is my leftovers. But project harder :^) maybe it’ll be some cardio for you

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>>9927966
>Don't be jealous because guys like me more because I have meat on my bones hurr
>implying girls in lolita care about male opinion in the first place
Either you're not a lolita or just retarded, possibly both.

>> No.9927976

i really don't like casual lolita. Lolita's a fashion that is often quite formal in appearance, making it casual takes the fun out of it. it's like the alt-fashion equivalent of chicken with no seasoning. there's nothing wrong with looking like a gremlin in a shirt and pants during the week if it helps you feel better about looking beautiful on weekends, when people other than your coworkers will actually see you. that said though, we're all in this fashion for different reasons. what do you guys like about casual/daily lolita?

>> No.9927981
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>>9927976
I mean, it's possible to wear "formal" looking coords that are still casual; they just look formal/fancy from a normie perspective, if nothing else. Pic related is my go-to OP for comfortable-but-nice coords, I usually wear it for first impression meetings or when I'm feeling lazy, and I have many others like it because I wear lolita daily.
I get the point you're trying to make but unlike the unfortunate reputation it somehow developed over the years, casual lolita ≠ sloppy. Or at least, it doesn't HAVE to be sloppy.

Related, my own confession: I get unreasonably salty whenever I see girls with bad coords tagging their shit "casual lolita" so they can get away with dressing like garbage without getting concrit. Thanks for giving daily lolita a bad name, please fuck off and be ita somewhere else.

>> No.9927997

>>9927966
bait

>> No.9927998

>>9927976
I almost exclusively wear casual lolita these days. I used to have a really nice wardrobe but I didn't wear most of those pieces regularly. Now I wear lolita almost every day. I feel Iike casual lolita gives me more freedom to wear things the way I want. Sadly though I also lost interest in posting coords and going to meets now that my lolita wardrobe is just my regular clothes. I used to put a lot of effort into themed coords for meets but I was spending too much money on dresses I only wore once or twice a year.

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>>9927962
Shit son, I'll drink to that.

>> No.9928178

>>9927890
I'm just really impressed they're still around

>> No.9928180

>>9927962
I have always disliked these too! I feel like I never really see people get that hyped over them. I don't understand how they've kept churning these out for years and years.

>> No.9928182

>>9928178
Why? She's progressed so much over the years. One bad Haenuli blouse doesn't make it a terrible brand.

>> No.9928186

>>9928180
I get hyped over everything related to Alice. She's the one true lolita icon.

>> No.9928191

>>9928182
the hype is mostly gaylitas who want to fuck the designer
the clothes themselves have always been shit quality and more pagan chic than lolita

>> No.9928197

I don't think any western indies truly get the lolita spirit. Their stuff ends up looking cheap or more like vintage/retro. I'd rather buy taobao than support any of them.
>I'm so tired of idodeclare+voodooodolly+goatspell OTT gothic coords. They all look the same and everyone creams their panties for them but they'll never be as lolita as even a simple Moitie or AtePi coord.

>> No.9928200

>>9928197
Agreed, and I like these indies' designs. I think they're gorgeous but they don't really look lolita.

>> No.9928201

>>9928182
agreed, it looks like she just licensed her design, and had very little to do with the production.

I've gotten to see a lot of her handmade items in person and the quality is very good.

>> No.9928203

>>9927962
God me too I hate Alice in Wonderland things bleh gross why do people think that's lolita and why do so many lolitas encourage it?? It's gives me ageplay vibes.

>> No.9928211

>>9928203
It's one of the core inspirations of the fashion. That doesn't mean you have to like it, obviously not everyone does and that's fine; but crying "ageplay!!!1" about something that greatly influenced the fashion at its roots and still does to this day, is retarded.

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>>9927966

>> No.9928222

>>9927976
Spoken like a true newbie lolita that joined maaaaybe 3 years ago at most.

>> No.9928223

>>9928191
The hype is literally just her using her friends as models and in return those friends try to promote it.

>> No.9928230

>>9927966
>Don't be jealous because guys like me more because I have meat on my bones hurr
Only times this is true for the majority, they don't want meat everywhere, especially not big on stomach, nor meat that saggs down lol.

Enjoy yourself more in our hate then, your still ugly so you still will be told that. And don't worry, we generally also hate on you outside the fashion. Only way to stop it would be some good food and drink habits, and some movement. Not all of you can't loose weight. Most are too lazy. If you're too lazy, deal with the consequences. If you actually can't, you know better yourself, and blame the lazy ones for the prejustice ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

>> No.9928231

>>9928182
Don't get me wrong, I want trying to hate on her at all! I actually modeled for her at a show a long ass time ago.
I'm surprised because almost all Western indie brands from that time have come and gone and I never saw it getting enough hype to feel it was sustainable.

>> No.9928233

>>9927966
You can't lie though. If your more than chubby, you can't look good in lolita, period.

>> No.9928234

>>9927966

I've never lost a boyfriend to someone who has 'more meat on their bones.' Nice projecting though.

>> No.9928264

>>9927966
Alright, have fun looking bad in clothes.

> tfw actually had someone leave their fat gf to pursue me in the past

Unpopular opinion: Most of the time adding random pins to a coordinate looks strange and tacky. I can understand maybe one well-placed piece, but most of the time that’s not how it’s done.

>> No.9928271

>>9928264
Is that you S? Fat pot calling the kettle black.

>> No.9928290
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>>9928197
What about Indrolita and Violet Fane? The quality is obviously not on par with Japanese brand but both brands have improved a lot since they started out. I want to support them simply because I believe they'll keep getting better, whereas I think 90% of taobao brands will jump to the next big thing once the lolita trend dies in China.

>> No.9928304

>>9927966
The ana chans are just sad bitter stay at home virgins wondering why they are single while having vile personalities. Its mainly an age thing i think.You grow out of being a bitter cunt when you leave home & have too much to be doing to "patrol" for fatties.

Have no illusions on this- Men love fat. Actually fat women. Its hardwired in. Have you ever been on a more male dominated board & seen them talk of ploughing into the thicc- dirty shits.

Adding opinions;
Cgl is full of lolita roleplayers, bring back 2013-2014 era cgl where we actually talked with only brief interruption
Ita thread is now just mainly plain girl, vendetta or mismatched pinks
Classic chans so bitter since all their brands shut up shop
Moitie is boring
Brand has gone to shit with polyester crap
Larme is normie f21 trash

>> No.9928308
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The only people that get mad about gatekeeping are people that don't know enough about the source material and shouldn't be cosplaying from that source material in the first place.

>> No.9928310

>>9928290

indrololita looks more like natural kei. Violet Fane is getting better I guess, never bought from them. Also my unpopular opinion is that I hate the idea that taobao is somehow lesser because they're Chinese and automatically are somehow more mercenary. If you look on weibo or even instagram you'll see a lot of brands are headed by girls who are passionate about the fashion. You just need to do your research to see.

>> No.9928313

>>9928304

You sound like my obese cunt of a coworker who was guess what, single. Talk about projection lmao.

>> No.9928317

>>9928310
I buy from taobao and research the brands that's how I know most of them only exist because it's a trend . You are talking about the other 10%. And even then, it's not hard to market yourself as a ~genuine~ lolita brand even though you only care about the money and stole patterns from the real lolita brands you supposedly love.

>> No.9928318

>>9928197
What is goatspell?

>> No.9928319

>>9928304
>Have no illusions on this- Men love fat. Actually fat women.

Don't delude yourself. """"""thicc""""""" is synonymous with fat. The bad fat. The obese fat. It's the dad bod for chicks. A sign that you can be stepped over and controlled because the person that fetishizes you fucks you every once in a while and knows you won't leave them because it's not like you are desirable enough to have 3 other people on the side desperately wanting to be with you.

>> No.9928325

Funny the only active jfashion threads these days are full of bait and stupidity

>> No.9928326

>>9928304
>Men love fat. Actually fat women. Its hardwired in. Have you ever been on a more male dominated board & seen them talk of ploughing into the thicc- dirty shits.

Do you seriously think the turbo virgins on /co/ and /fit/ are a good representation of the male population? Lose weight and you'll be less delusional

>> No.9928331

>>9928317
This. And a lot of these "trend brands" have very mediocre quality too. Often enough, just a case of "slap a nice print on it and people buy", or else it's a case of "make OTT lace dress and people buy".

If you check Weibo, yes there are some brands that are there with a passion. Some where around before the trend started, some are known in the community and friends with them personal. Gossip goes fast in China, so I agree with >>9928310 you can find the difference, but I also agree with >>9928317 that it's a very small group and most are there for the trend.

>> No.9928341

When people only post floordinates and hauls, I automatically assume they are hoarders who are too fat to fit into lolita.

>> No.9928343

>>9928341
I think only that one fat youtuber does this

>> No.9928419

>>9928318
goatspell is a brand that's similar to I Do Declare but more witchy/pagany and less warrior/churchy

They've got an instagram if you want to look 'em up.

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>>9928304

>> No.9928431

Fat people, itas, and trannies/fetishists should be banned from comms. No chances.

>> No.9928437

>>9928304
>Cgl is full of lolita roleplayers, bring back 2013-2014 era cgl where we actually talked with only brief interruption
I agree, I wish cgl was less garbage and less grumpy normies, but there was still quite a few trolls at that time.

>> No.9928465

>>9928308
I agree

>> No.9928490

I'm decently cute with a decent sized wardrobe and I assume everyone who posts here is the same. If somebody whines about gulls all being anonymous ugly RPers, I assume they're the outlier and are projecting.

>> No.9928532

>>9928490
That's what a roleplayer would say when he wants to make people less suspicious

>> No.9928539

>>9927758
nayrt but I felt that way about the recent RC discussion about
>"what music do you listen to, to put you in the mood for wearing lolita"
If someone feels compelled to listen to anything other than what they normally listen to when they are not wearing lolita.... it might be a costume.

>> No.9928564

>>9928539
nyart but I think the music thing is more referring to music that they relate with the fashion or are nostalgic for. It's not that people don't listen to that music regularly but it's just particularly fun to say, listen to Mana's music when wearing moitie.

>> No.9928571

>>9928490
I hate to break it to you, but the girls from my comm who post here have smallish wardrobes and are ugly with personalities to match.

>> No.9928572

>>9928571
I should clarify, those who openly post here. There are probably others who don't make a huge deal of it, and they're the nice ones.

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>>9928197
Forbidden Kingdom is pretty much the only western indie brand I like.

>> No.9928632

>>9928564
>I was wondering, does anyone else have specific songs or genres they listen to when in Lolita?
uwu uwu uwu

>> No.9928641

I am sick of cheap quality items saturating the lolita market. Fuck angelic pretty and their cheap ass shit they've been putting out and fuck taobao and all of the people that shove it down our throats when 99% of taobao stores suck.

I hate lolita at this point. I am sick of it and I am sick of stupid conversations and stupid entitled people in the community. I want to leave except for the nostalgia and beautiful clothes.

>> No.9928642

>>9928641
Be a lonelita and buy old second-hand. I barely know what's released by brands anymore, taobao is dead to me, and I'm not even part of a comm other than lurking my state's page on FB.

>> No.9928647

If your dream dress is currently on sale, it is not a dream dress.

Additionally,

if you haven't been searching for it 1+ years, it is not a dream dress.

>> No.9928662

>>9928647
>If your dream dress is currently on sale, it is not a dream dress.
Do you mean like if it's available and you haven't bought it even though you know because of whatever dumb reason, or do you mean if it's available and you haven't seen it it's still not a DD because it's available? Cause I would agree with the first sentiment but the second one is dumb

>> No.9928665

>>9928662

She's just salty she hasn't found any of her dream dresses after years and years.

I think the second one is silly. A lot of people will have a dream dress when you join lolita, usually the one that tipped them over into the fashion. To say it can't be a dream dress unless they have been searching for ages is idiotic.

>> No.9928668

>>9928233
Seagulls have no concept of what is and isn't chubby. You-know-who is definitely in chubby range and seagulls act like she's obese.

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>>9928319
>>9928304
>Have you ever been on a more male dominated board & seen them talk of ploughing into the thicc
>""""""thicc""""""" is synonymous with fat.
Nope. Thicc means assets, not obesity. A small waist relative to the rest of the body is still important.
Ana-chans and landwhales need to stop deluding themselves on what "thicc" entails, honestly.

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>>9928668

>not making the easy joke of She who Must Not Be Named.

Disappointed.

>> No.9928680

If you go on a two week vacation and have sales up, make sure you inform your buyers you are on vacation for two weeks and what date you return. Don’t take their money for payment without telling them you are on vacation and won’t be back for a while. It makes you look like you want to scam them. Don’t get mad at me for opening a claim on pp because you took the payment and went silent for a week and a half.

>> No.9928683

>>9928662
First reason. If it's right in front of your face and you just don't buy it, it's not a dream dress. At that point it's a wishlist item.

>>9928665
I would hardly define one year as "ages." Have you been fortunate enough that your DD is commonplace? A year is not a long time to wait.

To me a DD is just that - a "dream" dress. It's hard to obtain. It's a dress you dream of, and if it pops up every other week on closetchild, it's just happens to be a dress that's your favorite. It's not a dream dress.

My DD is one that I've accepted I'll probably never own, not because of lack of funds, but because, although it's from a major Japanese brand, it has gone years without an online sale.

Seems my opinion is truely unpopular.

>> No.9928685

>>9928683

My first dream dress thankfully came by chance when the store was selling leftovers. I literally got the last one in my size. Had I waited, the secondhand market wouldn't have coughed one up for another 3 years. Some people are just lucky anon. I've been searching for some dresses for 4 years too so I understand the wait.

>> No.9928688

>>9928685
Maybe one day. If there's the chance, I'll grab it even if I'm an old lady that everyone will hate on. I never got the opportunity to purchase it from the brand directly because I wasn't in the fashion at that time. I creep silently around on every secondhand site just waiting.

>> No.9928702

>>9928683
My dream dress used to show up only rarely on the second hand market. It was either at a time I didn’t have money or someone got to it before I could put down my payment on it. I waited nearly 5 years before I was the one able to snipe it for myself. But now that I have it, it seems more people are selling it then before I owned it. Sometimes things fall out of trendy style and end up all over the places but at one point wasn’t as common. Even after owning it, I’m still in love with it as much as I was when I first saw it.

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>>9928621
Uhhhhhhhhh........

>> No.9928725

>>9928641
>>9928642
I've been feeling the same way.

>> No.9928774

lolitas who post sjw shit on group chats are worse then itas getting butt mad their hottopic dress won’t work in the fashion. At least the itas provide some decent amusement.

>> No.9928775

There are too many lewd cosplayers with patreons on insta

>> No.9928781

>>9928490
You're being naive.

I'm sure you're aware of cross boarders and the like. They are more fakes than the real thing. If you think otherwise, you seem gullible and you deserve the amount of trolling you fall for.

>> No.9928783

>>9928683
Are you seriously differentiating other people's priorities? You sound like a fucking control freak.

>> No.9928784

>>9928233
Be real though, if someone is even the slightest bit chubby, someone retard on here will the be the first to be the loudest about their contrarian opinion of "I hate fatties and now I'm saying it because it's ok to say you hate fatties on 4chin"

>> No.9928787

>>9928683
Welp, pretty sure we have the same dream dress. I deeply understand your salt and agree with your first point that dream dresses on sale aren't dream dresses. I would also include dream dresses that have been unsold on the second hand market for months and are really easy to find.
Just stay patient, it will eventually pop up one day or another and not only once. Every dress does.

>> No.9928788

if you cannot afford to go to conventions or cosplay then STOP DOING IT.
i know people irl who go to cons and spend money they don't have on cosplay/tickets/hotels, and then when the actual con day comes... they complain the entire time that they have no money.
these people are adults. if you are an adult in the cosplay community please learn how to prioritise. i see cosplay as a hobby and weekend conventions as a sort of vacation, so i budget and save for what i want. if i can't afford it, i don't go. it's not hard.

>>9928775
agreed. there are patreon cosplayers i like because they crank out plenty of tutorials and great content but the majority unfortunately seems to be people who make bank doing swimsuit cosplays or 'hotel boudoir' shoots. good for them, but cosplay is just not the same anymore post patreon.

>> No.9928792

The Hogwarts theme is horribly overused and the coords look bad 70% of the time. Other fandom coords are frowned upon as cosplay but for Hogwarts it's okay?
I would understand it if the colours were a little less grating but primary colours are so ugly.

>> No.9928820

>>9928783
Don't come to the unpopular opinions thread and get triggered by people having... unpopular opinions.

>> No.9928821

>>9928792
The canon colors are jewel tones afaik so they actually should be fine for lolita, it's just an unfortunate fact that many of these people who are so eager to combine lolita with their fandom are also severely lacking in taste so they end up looking like shit.

>> No.9928823

>>9928820
It's not even an unpopular opinion - I see that one get posted a lot.

People are so fucking painfully dumb in these threads. It's so rare that someone actually posts an unpopular opinion when it comes to lolita.

>> No.9928828

>>9928683
What's your dream dress, anon?

>> No.9928835

>>9928828
oh man how much you wanna bet it's shantung OP anon crying openly?

>> No.9928838

>>9928787
I have enough to distract myself with and like I said, I've come to terms with the dress never being sold and me never owning it. It would just be great if it happened.

>>9928828
I'll lose any credibility for saying this, but I choose not to say which dress it is because I don't want to be scalped since I've said before I would pay three times release day price for it. It's an Angelic Pretty solid. It's not talked about, isn't a "trend" dress, and I've seen it worn in a pictures twice?

>> No.9928840

>>9928835
>>9928838
I was right. Cry more bitch.

>> No.9928841

>>9928840
It's not. Nice try?

>> No.9928843

>>9927746
Rin Rin always been a boring ass bitch.

>> No.9928845

>>9928841
No one is going to believe you now. What else is there to be worried about being scalped that badly?

>> No.9928847

>>9928845
I said it wasn't a dress that was talked about. I've never even see it mentioned on cgl.

If there's a 1% chance a scalper sees me name a dress and gets to the one being sold before I do, I'm going to keep my mouth shut. This is why I'll never post in the DD thread.

>> No.9928848

>>9928835
Nope, I'm >>9928787 and I'm very very sure that I'll own it one day. I'm not worried about being scalped either.

>> No.9928849

>>9928848
I hope both of us find what we're looking for.

>> No.9928854

>>9928849
We will anon, I believe in you.

>> No.9928855

Lolitas who go to big international events are just in it for the efame. Lonelita is true lolita.

>> No.9928856

>>9928855
What fame (if any) is there to gain from spending money on traveling abroad for a frilly tea party? Serious question, I don't think I understand the point you're trying to make.

>> No.9928860

>>9928856
They're just going for the likes and the OTT points. Fake bitches, you don't need lolita cred to be a lolita.

>> No.9928890

I don't care if lolitas shoop. I don't care about if the lie about it. I just want to see pretty girls in pretty dresses.

unless it's a bad shoop, then nothx

>> No.9928901

>>9928890
Same. That's not unpopular at all outside of cof threads.

>> No.9928913

>>9928672
Not everyone likes harry potter

>> No.9928921

>>9928774
I mod a group chat and sometimes people bring up how much they hate SJW even though nobody has ever said anything remotely SJW in my chat, it's so weird and annoying

>> No.9928923

>>9928792
When you try to dress up as a character from hogwarts it is cosplay but most lolitas just wear their own house colours

>> No.9928925

>>9928860
>>9928855
This is so dumb. Those events have tons of attendees that don't even post coords online. They go to meet the special guests and see burando sold irl because most of us have never been to a real lolita shop.

>> No.9928938

>>9928222
Ngl I always picture anons posting
>lolita is supposed to be formal and elegant and opulent and for princesses!!
as the newbie weebs in my comm who slap on a cheap secondhand brand dress with a Claire’s tiara in their unstyled hair and then complain about normies all meetup, because that’s exactly how they talk.

>> No.9928944

>>9928341
You’re probably onto something. A girl in my comm has a ton of followers on IG for her floordinates but looks like a stuffed sausage in the clothes.

>>9928720
yeesh

>> No.9928955

>>9927962
I hate Alice in Wonderland, but my dresses are mostly AiW themed. I really like all the symbols you can find on the prints (crowns, cards, hearts, cats, chess pieces and more) even if I don’t care about the story.

>> No.9928960

Old-school lolitas were edgy teenagers who were major euroboos and brands in the beginning were probably something equivalent to hot topic, but with better quality.
Not saying it was bad, I love old-school and I feel like its original "something".

Also don't shout that it's not a costume, just wear it and people will notice that it's not.

>> No.9928962

>>9928921
My comms discord has about four lolitas who have a literal shit fit when ever there’s something even remotely cultural on a print. Stained glass with angels and saints “ this is an insult to the catholic religion. You shouldn’t wear this if your not catholic”. Book of Kels “ you can’t wear that if you’re not Irish”. Egyptian print “this is horrible, this is using someones ancestral heratage as a fashion trend”

>> No.9928968

>>9928647
Partly agree. I had to not buy a dream dress because all my savings went to moving and renovating which costed more than planned (talking few thousands of euro more than planned). I cried for 3 days strait, but buying it would mean not paying rent and other bills which would cause huge problems for me. I don't think it's fair to say its no dream dress. I would have payed much more than the 300+ euro it was listed for if I could, which most of the time, I can. But ofc it's sold now.

But if you have the money, or are too retarded to save up money, then yes, u agree. If it's there for you to take and you don't take it, I doubt you wanted it that badly.

>> No.9928970

>>9928962
I have fairly left-leaning views on cultural appropriation but that just sounds fucking insufferable.

>> No.9928972

>>9928944
Josine?

>> No.9928974

>>9928890
I'd say this isn't an unpopular opinion unless the shooping girl lies about whether she shops or not. A shoop-chan is fine if she admits it, but nobody likes a lying bitch.

>> No.9928977

>>9928970
Why do you think I don’t attend the public meets any more? I only go to personal meets with close friends in the comm. I’m not dealing with the chances of dealing with those girls because I like to wear religious prints and are not religious.

>> No.9928984

>>9928960
Agreed on all of this, except for maybe the point re: Hot Topic.
I'd say that quite a few Japanese lolitas today are also euroboos/teaboos/francophiles, not just the ones who founded the fashion. Yumi Fujiwara is a very obvious teaboo, actually.

>> No.9929048

>>9928962
I don't believe stories like this unless I see it because it's so popular to make lefties look bad on this god forsaken place. If true, they are probably literal teenagers or college students from the US.

>> No.9929061

>>9929048

I mean lol Reddit, but I can show you tons of threads of virtue signaling white liberal women who just love to "call out" for the weirdest shit. I lurk makeup forums and the latest hot thing is to hate on Fenty Beauty's Moroccan Spice palette for cultural appropriation, I shit you not.

>> No.9929063

>>9928720
Yeah, I wouldn't get the blouse but the dresses are well made

>> No.9929071

>>9928668
You know who also displays her rolls and wears stuff that doesn't fit while parading herself around as thin, that's why people comment on her weight so much.

>> No.9929077

>>9929063
The dresses also look like low-end Taobao but you do you I guess

>> No.9929085

>>9928855
I want to go to a Chi ese brand party one day, because they are fancy as fuck and I love fancy, luxurious things. Big international events tend to have more budget, so they are more often fancy and luxurious, so I will go there more often. E-fame is not the only reason to go. I don't think a general coord shot on CoF and a friends only photo album (while I only add people I know personally) on my own FB is gonna make me more famous than any other lolita posting coords at non big events can get.

>> No.9929094

>>9928968
Your situation was very unfortunate and I wouldn't lump you in with the people I'm talking about. If the money was something that was spent on an optional expense and not the "dream" dress, that's what I take issue with. People who choose to pass up the opportunity to buy their DD, but still call it their DD baffle me.

>> No.9929381

>>9928944
>>9928972
It has to be Josine. It's such a waste that she owns so many beautiful pieces and makes such lovely coordinates, but doesn't put in the effort to wear stuff that looks good on her body.

>> No.9929382

>>9928855
>lonelita is true lolita
So you don't like having friends who share your interests?

>> No.9929384

>>9928890
I don't care about minor shooping, like smoothing things out and removing small wrinkles or zits, but if you feel like you have to change your whole face and remove 20 pounds then you might have body dymorphia.

>> No.9929422

>>9928974
i literally do not care about the personalities or personal flaws of other lolitas, outside of tuning into some drama every once in a while for entertainment's sake

i am just in it for the outfits

>> No.9929424

>>9929382
I'm sure she's joking.

>> No.9929431

>>9929382
nyart and pretty sure that anon was just being silly, but lolita isn't really something that I care about enjoying with friends. it's not an activity, it's an aesthetic. I don't have any friendships I base around lolita, I have friend who *happens* to wear lolita but it's not a cornerstone of our friendship and it doesn't define the activities we do together or the things we talk about. i have "gaming friends" and "convention friends" and "work friends" but not "lolita friends"

>> No.9929460

I'm judging you and your shoe and bag design replicas. Stop being so cheap and buy the real thing if you like it so much.

>> No.9929472

>>9929460
Judge away. I’d rather have shoes that are cheap and actually stay on your feet for more then one wear. Better then spending 250 dollars on a pair of pleather shoes marketed as leather and fall apart after one or two wears. Same goes with the purses.

>> No.9929475

>>9929460
>>9929472

>implying only those two types of shoes exist

Not meaning to start the whole western vs japanese shoe brand debate again, but there are leather shoes that *gasp* last for a really long time.

>> No.9929479

>>9929472
None of them are marketed as leather.

>> No.9929480

>>9929472
Jane marple has leather shoes but they're like 500 dollars. Brand pleather shoes usually cost closer to 100 dollars.

>> No.9929492

Girls under 18 should not get into lolita. Not only are they the ones that whine about it being too expensive, but they act entitled to it and need a full coord now. They can't grasp slowly building up your first coord with essential items and then slowly building up a wardrobe because to them 6 months to a year seem like forever, so they get cheap knockoffs and Claire's accessories.

They also have the most idiotic ideals about lolita fashion, like the false notion that it's for them, when in reality it's for the over 20 crowd with jobs, better taste, confidence, and the patience and hard work to actually afford their shit. They also think life ends at 25 when you have to get a grown up job. Instead that's when shit gets fucking good because you get true freedom. Not to mention they massively insult the lolita designers and early leaders of the movement because guess what, the person designing your pastel vomit is over 30.

>> No.9929497

>>9929460
I hope one day you'll wake up with feet like bigfoot. I'd give my right hand for moitie, VM or meta shoes in my size.

>> No.9929531

>>9929497
Sorry your favorite brand isn't made for you. You can't have everything in life, get used to it.

>> No.9929537

>>9929460
I hate replicas just as much as anyone else, but there's nothing I can do about my feet being too large for Japanese brand shoes. I've been underweight my whole life too, so it's not like I have fat feet causing the problem.

>> No.9929545

>>9929537
NAYRT but you could just not buy the shoes at all. There are a lot of lolita-appropriate shoe choices that aren't replicas if you do a bit of digging.

>> No.9929561

>>9929545
Yeah, good luck with that if you wear sweet.

>> No.9929573

>>9927746
I feel your feels, anon

>> No.9929576

>>9929561
What, do you wear a US size 11 shoe or something? If that's the case you shouldn't be wearing sweet at all

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Coming from somebody who loves pastel vomit, Dolly Cat has a hideous design and print. The only redeeming thing about it are the cuts. The cats are so goddamn ugly and are only topped in ugliness by these IW monstrosities. The Dolly Cat bag is ugly too.

Romantic Cat has the cutest AP cats. Princess Cat's are pretty ok. Cats Tea Party cats are kind of "ugly" as well, but they look deliberate/grumpy and not just out of not knowing how cats look. I like these prints, but I hate Dolly Cat and Cherry Cat though the latter is something I would wear as a joke.

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>>9929475
>>9929479
>>9929480
>role playing that they are rich and can afford all the brand things.

Sure Jan. If it makes you feel cool.

>> No.9929593

>>9929589
Sorry you're poor

>> No.9929642
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9929642

Tired of fake bois.
You can’t get pissed at people “misgendering” you when this is your profile picture.
So glad I left my comm. they also support a shop lifter.

>> No.9929646

>>9929561
It's pretty easy to find plain pastel mary janes on ebay/taobao/aliexpress.

>> No.9929689

>>9929492
Agreed.

>> No.9929692

I wish taking bait was a bannable offense, or at least had some consequences. Even when gulls recognise obvious bait they still feel the need to reply and shit up the entire thread. It's's not funny or creative like some shitposting either as it's always the same crap.

>> No.9929694

>>9929589
>>9929589
Shit son, stop trying to force your selfpost as a meme, there's a reason no-one replied to you in the draw thread.

>> No.9929698

>>9929692
Feel free to leave if you don't like 90% of this boards content

>> No.9929714

>>9929537
>>9929561
Have you never heard of shoe clips?

>> No.9929751

>>9929692
That's almost all of 4chan in general.

>> No.9929759

>>9928847
>I've said before I would pay three times release day price for it.
Then why'd you mention this.

>> No.9929811

>>9929759
Nayrt but it's possible for them to have said they'd pay 3x release price and also not say the name of the dress

>> No.9929814

>>9929642
They look like that dwarf from ncis Miami or the incredibles

>> No.9929831

>>9929811
Not the point, one minute they say they said something and the next they never talked about - they're contradicting themselves. They were caught in a lie.

>> No.9929843

>>9929831
I talked about being willing to pay 3x retail for my DD. When I did, I never said the name of the dress. It was a general discussion about how much cash people were willing to drop for a DD. I've never seen the dress mentioned here because no one has named it, including myself. How am I lying? Am I explaining it wrong?

>> No.9929854

>>9928838
>I've said before I would pay three times release day price for it.
>>9928847
>I've never even see it mentioned on cgl.
>>9929843
So you either never talked about it or you did somewhere.

Either way, pretty sure you're back pedaling and insisting that you're not lying so that people will leave you alone in a DD thread.

Of course you would lie to not be outed.

It's something every gull does because bitches are afraid.

>> No.9929861

>>9929854
I'm >>9929811 but I'm pretty sure they meant mentioning the dress name. Maybe it went like this in an older thread:
>"I don't want to pay more than X for my DD (dress name)"
>"that's not a lot. I would pay 3x retail for my DD"
and now to this thread
>"I have never seen my DD's name posted on /cgl/"

>> No.9929872

>>9929843
>How am I lying? Am I explaining it wrong?
No, that anon is just angry and bored. It's easy to search for the info you just described but they just want to raise shit.

>> No.9929874

>>9929872
Nayrt but this has been happening a lot over the last three months. It’s probably a small group of anons who are bored because school is over and have no hobbies to occupy their time.

>> No.9929885

I think everyone should be able to wear w/e they want as long as they don't hurt themselves or anyone else.

>> No.9929905

>>9929885
they already can. there is literally nothing stopping you.

or do you mean "wear whatever they want completely free of criticism or comment"

even that can be relatively realistic if you don't post your photos online.

>> No.9929931

>>9929531
Well at least we can still have their replicas

>>9929460
Are replicas bags better quality than brand ones? i severely doubt so

>> No.9929935

>>9929874
Yeah, but it's also an increase in outsiders who hate cgl as a whole but waste their time and energy on here for got knows what reason. Look at >>9929854 and their last sentence. They're not part of cgl and like I said - just want to raise shit.

>> No.9929940

>>9929905
Actually if lolitas don't post their photos online, they also get criticised for that

>> No.9929964

>>9929940
Since when? What sort of criticism one gets in that case? "Pics or you're not a lolita"?

>> No.9929993

>>9929931
Selling replicas is what criminals do to make money on the side to support criminal activity. Why would you want to be a part of that?

>> No.9930005

This probably isn't unpopular, but:

Saloupette dresses and sack dresses look terrible on ample Western girls, and unless you're a toothpick, you should avoid them altogether.

>> No.9930008

>>9929993
Because cheapskates/fatties gotta have their Ay Pee at all costs, apparently.

>>9930005
Agreed.

>> No.9930044

>>9930008
>what is reading comprehension

>> No.9930067
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"Cosplay positivity" is an excuse for thots and other toxic people to continue being cunts because all criticism is "bullying" and against the "cospos" mindset. Prove me wrong, girls.

>> No.9930073

>>9930067
Not even a cosplayer and I agree with this. I'm not against "positivity" but there are few things I hate more than seeing people take advantage of "inclusiveness" to avoid criticism.

>> No.9930079

>>9927746
Piggybacking off your piggyback -

I think oldschool is ugly and bland. Peak lolita designs were between 2008 and 2012 for me, and have been steadily more indistinguishable and watered since.

>> No.9930082

>>9927924
>off
>several years ago

If you mean 10 years ago sure. OTT sweet started creeping up in 2008-2009 before exploding in 2010.

>> No.9930083

>>9929642
Can you even say you left if you were banned for this type of behavior lol

>> No.9930093

>>9930083
They were banned for calling chinlet a girl? Yeah, I think you can say that they left.

>> No.9930095

>>9929071
>Displays herself as thin
What?

>> No.9930154

>>9930083
I left of my own free will because I didn’t want to be associated with itas and shoplifters :) I would never be banned by such a two faced community who has no proof of anything.

>> No.9930159

>>9929646
Which are usually replicas, genius. If you’re anti-shoe replica you can’t tell people to look for shoes on eBay or aliexpress.

>> No.9930169

>>9929964
It happens on this very board

>> No.9930173

>>9929935
You're wrong because I've been coming to cgl for a few years now. Just because I don't like the majority of posters doesn't mean there aren't diamonds in the rough. I've made friends on here and I have a fuckton of high quality IGs to follow cause of this place.

quit making broad assumptions in hopes of being the "correct" anon in the thread.

>> No.9930179

>>9930095
Nayrt but she comes and tries to insist she's smaller than she is. She tried to say her MRC was a size M which was why it was tight fitting but on LM the size she bought was a large. Just stuff like that where she tries to claim she's smaller than she actually is

>> No.9930183

>>9930179
She checked and admitted it was an L, and assumed her thin friend she bought it from had the M. At least accept she fessed up.

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>>9927714
Wearing diapers to the meet is just stupid.

>> No.9930195

>>9930093
No, she was banned for causing enough drama to make people feel uncomfortable.

Contrary to what >>9930154 claims, the mods absolutely had proof to ban her.

Now she is butthurt about being banned because she can't accept that she's just a piece of shit human being, and vendetta posts about anyone and everyone in the comm on cgl.

>> No.9930210

>>9930173
>Just because I don't like the majority of posters doesn't mean there aren't diamonds in the rough.
>It's something every gull does
Every gull ≠ the majority
If you don't want to appear like a shitposting outsider, don't type like one.

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>>9930220
>UK Edition

>> No.9930231

>>9930220
>>9930223
I thought this was the unpopular opinion thread. Also,
>little for big
Why the fuck is that store endorsed by people into jfash? Are they legitimately retarded?
It reminds me of when someone posted pink mary jane shoes sold by an adult baby store on EGL. It was dumb (and honestly hilarious) then, it was at least a decade ago when resources were scarce; but doing this now is pants on head retarded. What the fuck is their excuse?
Unless this means that the western fairy kei comms are full of ageplayers in which case, yikes.

>> No.9930233

>>9930183
Hi v*ldie

>> No.9930257

>>9930210
No, its not an attack, its the truth. People totally lie to avoid being outed. This place is a hotbed for misinformation.

>> No.9930260

>>9930195
Isn't that pretty par for the course for everyone in this community?

>> No.9930275

>>9928923
and 10/10 its ugly because the house colors are hideous and the overall HP aesthetic is too

>>9929492
this. i also think if you dont support yourself, you shouldnt be a lolita. there's nothing kawaii about whining about why mommy or daddy wont buy brand for you.

>>9929642
tumblr pastel demibois need to go away. we all know you were too ugly as a girl so you figured you'd try to be a boy instead

>> No.9930278

>>9930275
What if I'm a trust fund baby? I don't have to work because of my family oil. Am I not allowed to wear lolita?

>> No.9930289

>>9930223
Ok but I love those pants and that sweater still.
The plateforms are alright but everything else is fucking sin

>> No.9930297

>>9930278
Nayrt but I think they just meant people who complain about not being able to buy lolita when they don't even have a job. The whining is always the most annoying part. If you're a trust fund baby you don't have to whine about it, so it's fine.

>> No.9930301

>>9930257
Where did I say it's an attack? And again, you said everyone on cgl, not the majority of cgl, not people in general, but everyone on cgl. That also includes you, kek.

>> No.9930326

>>9930195
No sweety, I left because I don’t associate with shoplifters, hambeasts, and shit mods :)
There’s no proof to ban me over anything, I left of my own accord. so shut your stupid mouth you have no idea what you’re talking about.

>> No.9930334

>>9930275
I feel like a horrible person but I also think this when I see a self-labeled "demiboy." Like sure, when I was 16 I hated being a girl because of beauty standards, but it was never "lol guess I'll be a guy instead."

>> No.9930355

>>9928431
Yo don't lump all trannys in with fetishists. It's just the attention whoring ones you need to look out for. No tranny wants attention and if they do you have to wonder.

>> No.9930356

>>9930326
I guess the fact that you "left" instead of being banned is the unpopular opinion here.

>> No.9930359

>>9929940
>>9929964
They only get criticized for it when they are trying to give dumbass advice on Rufflechat or BSoL and yet there is no proof of them being a lolita or knowing anything about the fashion.

It's fine if you don't want to post pics, but in that case don't expect people to take your opinion and advice seriously on the subject.

>> No.9930361

>>9930355
Being a tranny is a fetish. An extreme one, but a fetish none the less

>> No.9930383

>>9930361
It isn't but nice opinion you got there.

>> No.9930385

>>9930383
t. mentally ill fetishist tranny

>> No.9930387

>>9930385
Is it a mental illness or a fetish? Make up your mind.

>> No.9930416

>>9930326
You should get psychological help, it's not healthy to be this delusional. There are ways to treat cluster B personalities like yours.

>> No.9930437

>>9927966
Can’t laugh hard enough because I was pretty fucking skinny from stress and my bf ended up dumping me for someone who was a cokehead and anachan levels of skinny. Cry harder fattychan, thin will always be in.

>> No.9930521

>>9930437
>thin will always be in.
There was a time when it wasn't. History repeats itself but keep on being oblivious to your surroundings in your little hate monger space bubble of the internet.

>> No.9930524

>>9930301
I never said I didn't lie on here.

>still using kek
Wew boy....

>> No.9930527

>>9930524
>being so new you feel the need to shame others for using 4chin lingo on 4chin

Kek, an hero candyass roody poo

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>> No.9930606

>>9929940
i've been a lolita for like 12 years and i don't post photos online, i have literally never gotten shit for it

>> No.9930615

>>9930606
Same anon. I have been in the fashion for about 10 years and have maybe 3 photos online that where from others. Mainly community tea parties where we had hired a photographer.

>> No.9930641

>>9929931
Honestly my brand shoes are crap and crumbled after a few wears. I have AP, Baby, Meta, and AATP. Brand bags on the other hand are nicer, I have a couple that crumbled but most held up really well. But I am reluctant to get brand shoes again with how bad the ones I have were/ are. Although they do look much nicer than the replicas in person

>> No.9930737

>>9929460
I got big feet tho

>> No.9930830

>>9930524
So you're just projecting your own shittyness into all of cgl? Gotcha.

>wew boy instead of wew lad
You have to go back.

>> No.9930833

Lolitas have no place at cosplay conventions and should just go and make their own cons instead of invading ours.

Furries that goes for you too.

>> No.9930834

>>9929381
Her boobs are the biggest issue. She mainly has to stop wearing IW and dresses with front corset lacing and doing that stupid belt thing under her boobs. Would improve all of her coords by 1000%.

>> No.9930853

>>9930833
As a lolita, I agree with this.
I do think that people in general can wear lolita to cons, it IS a fashion style after all; but lolita-related content, like fancy brand tea parties and fashion shows, should be contained in its own events and detached from cosplay events. We can't cry that lolita isn't cosplay while simultaneously having our favorite brands showcase their clothes at conventions that cater to cosplayers and anime fans, that doesn't make sense.

In the same vein, I can't get mad about cosplayers who are upset because they're being kept out of lolita tea parties. I don't think they should be allowed in if they're not wearing lolita, but our tea parties don't belong at cosplay events in the first place, and it's understandable that cosplayers would be upset and feel left out when an event held at a con that caters to them, actively excludes them.

>> No.9930857

>>9930834
Her face doesn't help either.

>> No.9930862

>>9930853
>it IS a fashion style after all

You know as well as I do that for the con-going lolitas this is a costume that they wear for cons only, and never outside of conventions.

I agree that lolita-exclusive events should be banned from non-lolita cons. It takes up valuable event space that is then restricted to a group of people that are not even the target audience of the convention. I am talking anime conventions and such, cosplay cons.

>> No.9930865

>>9930862
I wear lolita at least casually most days. When I go to anime cons, I wear lolita because it's my everyday clothes. Also, by being there and talking to any cute girls I see in lolita I've convinced several conlitas to join my comm and wear the fashion more. Please don't assume that anyone in lolita at a con is only a conlita, some of us might be undercover.

>> No.9930867

>>9930862
Nayrt, but some lolitas also have an interest in going to cons, and there is absolutely no reason for them to go in jeans and a t-shirt if they normaly dress in lolita. Conlitas are a different story altogether

>> No.9930868

>>9930862
Oh sure, but I wasn't talking about them; I don't consider them lolitas at all, actually. There are girls that wear lolita to cons sometimes because it's just something they like to wear, I was referring to them.

>> No.9930980

>>9930853
I agree with this too. It doesn’t bother me when people wear lolita to conventions, but when anime conventions become the center of lolita activities it rubs me the wrong way. It doesn’t help that in my comm, many meetups are held at anime conventions and therefore require a ticket to that con, which sucks for people like me who don’t care for anime cons and would rather spend that money elsewhere.
>”Then make your own meetup outside the con!”
Meetups organized around the same time as an anime con meetup (same weekend or weekend before/after) are vetoed by mods, because supposedly competing meetups cause conflict in the comm. I haven’t been to a swap meet in three years because they keep being held at cons and the mods insist that it’s superfluous to hold a second one at a non-convention location in the same year.

When I brought this issue up to the mods and other people in the community, they basically said that it’s my own fault for not being into anime because everyone else is. I know for a fact that there are a bunch of other girls in the comm who don’t watch anime and don’t go to cons, though. Maybe we should get together and hold a ~secret meetup~ one day. Let’s see if we’ll end up on BtB.

>> No.9930983

>>9928341
I only post floordinates because I have issues with dysmorphia and a job that has a strict policy on social media. This sounds like projecting.

>> No.9931033

>>9929480
Don't fall for the Jane Marple meme. I own a pair of JM shoes and the leather is hard and uncomfortable. My western normie shoes for $80 have better leather quality than this.

>> No.9931035

>>9930737
Then buy something else? Clip some bows on and you're fine.

>> No.9931041

>>9930980
Honestly, fuck your comm, it sounds like weeby garbage. Liking anime isn't a requirement to wearing jfash and your mods are idiots for basically forcing everyone to attend a con in order to interact with the community. Who the hell does this?
If you get along well with the other girls who also don't like anime, I don't see why you shouldn't meet up on your own terms whenever you want to. The mods can't tell you who to meet and where and when to meet them, if they're offended by this then maybe they should reconsider limiting the community to meeting up in places that don't speak to all members.
Also maybe consider dropping your comm altogether because they sound shitty and not worth the trouble.

>> No.9931079

>>9930521
it's a sign of wealth and prosperity to be the opposite of what it's easiest to be.

historically, when food is scarce or takes considerable labor to produce, it's "in" to be plump because it means that you both have steady access to enough food, and probably don't have to work for it. it was a symbol of being well off, well taken care of, and probably educated, since laborers rarely had money or free time for that.

nowadays being thin USUALLY means that you have access to healthy food (and that you have time to prepare it), the education to make healthy choices, the time to exercise (and often the money to exercise in an enjoyable way or comfortable environment). it is easier for poor people who are short on time and resources to be fat.

>> No.9931087

>>9930833
rip Rufflecon

>> No.9931104

>>9928792
>overused
This so hard. It's like the new hipster fandom every puber and young adult now suddenly loves like it's their whole life, and not only in lolita. All these merch, tattoos, and much more everywhere nowadays. I was a fan as a kid, but then no one cared this extreme back then. Still like it, but not in a fandom kinda way at all. More like "nice movie and books". Anyways, now every hipster on the street thinks it's the most important thing in their life. Either this, or Doctor who, Starwars, or some adults cartoon or one that has some references to make it watchable for adults. And then they are such a geeky people, while they are just idiots follow a stupid trend.

Secretly I can't wait until this hype is over and all these hypsters with Harry Potter tattoos are looking at them every day, especially the ones with big colourful tattoos that are near impossible to cover.

Anyways, back to your point. Yes, most look bad and unbalanced. Too much fandom, too little coordinating.

>> No.9931122

>>9930980
>I haven’t been to a swap meet in three years because they keep being held at cons and the mods insist that it’s superfluous to hold a second one at a non-convention location in the same year.

Holy shit, I am very tempted to crash every loli-exclusive tea party with some of my cosplaying friends just so these community mods realize they are better off organizing their own events

>> No.9931150

>>9931122
Nayrt but that's extreme. Anon's mods are retarded but I doubt they do this because they want to "invade" cons, more likely because they're too afraid to wear lolita in any other public setting. Besides, while lolita meetups have a specific dress code and are usually exclusive to lolitas, conventions aren't exclusive to cosplayers, so they're not equal at all.

>> No.9931167

>>9927714
>cosplay unpopular opinions
I don't care about the private life of cosplayers

>> No.9931175

>>9930606
>>9930615
there was a discussion on cgl the other day with people getting triggered about it because if you don't post coords online, you must be ugly and a role-player and are not allowed to comment on lolita topics

>> No.9931178

>>9930833
I agree too. Con organisers are trying to appeal to as much people as possible but they shoot themselves in the foot by offering lolita and other activities half-heartedly. They should focus on giving the perfect experience to cosplayers and anime/manga fans.

>> No.9931179

>>9931175
The people who try and argue that if you don't post pics you're not a real lolita are the ones I highly suspect of getting into lolita only for efame/likes.

>> No.9931187

>>9931122
please do

>>9931104
you sound like a normie desu. people used to be really active in fandom too. if anything, they were more embarrassing back then. maybe you just didn't know where to find them? a lot of fandoms have way more exposure now that everyone knows how to use the internet and cellphones.

>> No.9931208

>>9930980
This is pretty awful, I personally do a lot of meets at conventions since I go to many, but I always make sure we meet somewhere outside the con so everyone can come. I don't know why your com can't do the same, it's not difficult

>> No.9931215

Gold and silver shoes are tacky as fuck and never look good. The ones covered with fucking glitter are especially disgusting. Those dripping stars hair clips and witch hats need to disappear. Most taobao brands suck, the random ones with bullshit names that pop out of nowhere. They're like the F21 of Lolita, mostly tacky boring crap. Oldschoolers are just justified itas. Fat people and ugly dudes need to gtfo, they look bad in the clothes, even if they have a really good coord. Fandom coords never look good.

>> No.9931223

>>9931104
Maybe it’s just my area but HP fans used to be just as overzealous and annoying back in the day. What annoys me most is when they act like they were bullied for being poor lil nerds who read nerdy books UwU when in reality, EVERYONE at our school loved HP and a few of the most popular kids in our year even campaigned to have the series added to the curriculum for English. Maybe people who grew up in some Bible-thumping little village where they thought HP was devil worship had a bad time, but that’s not the case for anyone in my comm. Everyone our age loved Harry Potter. The only way any of them got bullied for it is if they were autistically over the top about it, but it’s like that with every fandom.

Of course they all think they’d be in Slytherin, too.

>> No.9931301

>>9929048
I believe them just because I see too many idiots thinking like this. Anything as inspiration that is not your own culture or the Americanised version of white culture makes you a racist, nazi, and who knows that else to some people. It might not be the majority of people, but those who act like this are loud, obnoxious, and get more and more influence. Honestly, I feel like left people who don't really understand what's going on or how things work (that not understanding part is important) are getting too much influence, and I find it funny people complain about increase of right wing people when all I see is an increase in people who blindly shout whatever left wing attention whores (again, not all left people, but particular ones) are saying.

>> No.9931305

>>9929431
NAYRT, but most people who get "lolita friends" do so because it's nice to have someone to talk to who does understand quality over quanity in fashion, and enjoys elaborate outfits and understands the pros and cons of fashions like lolita, both on social field (how people react to you) as on things like looking at quality and fit, laundry, and just being able to talk about something that makes you happy with someone who doesn't react like "WTF would you pay so much for a dress".

It's not about just lolita as interest, it's also about the things that go with it. You look at different things in clothes than with the fast fashion most people wear, and it's nice to have someone being similar in that and understanding the joy you get when you just got that dress you where hunting down for months.

>> No.9931307

>>9931223
>2018
>shitting on slytherin

Nice meme bro.

>> No.9931308

>>9929422
Me too anon. Unless you make your personality my problem, I don't give a shit about your personality and if you swooped your photo, and I enjoy reading some drama every now and then as long as it's not the same thing over and over again.

>> No.9931313

>>9929460
I don't care about simple "mary jane with low blockheal and bow" or "heart shape with handle" type designs, but anything that actually isn't 90% an existing shape with perhaps a bow placed on a common place I agree.

Although even on simple designs, I still hate it if you have a brand name or logo on it. Don't act like it something it's note.

>> No.9931318

>>9929492
Agreed, although I care more about people acting adult than being it. I don't mind younger people who actually pay for themselves and act responsible, but those are a very small group compared to the ones you describe.

>> No.9931322

>>9929587
I don't even like sweet but I do like those AP cats. They are just a more cartoony drawing style. The IW ones are horrible tho.

>> No.9931337

>>9929885
They already can.
If you refer to the rules and are on of those "it's fashion, there should be no rules" people, it's simple. If it's not lolita, don't call it that. You can wear whatever you like. But calling something that's not lolita lolita is just as stupid as calling something that's not a spoon a spoon. Names exist for a reason. it doesn't matter what you wear, but don't go claim it's something it's not.

If you talk about concrit or even negative critism, don't post it online? Anything you do online can and will be used against you. It's public now, out in the deep web where everyone can acces it, and not everyone has morals. And you trew it in there by posting.

>>9929940
Only if they act like know-it-alls or just have bad behaviour/come over like they don't know anything, especially when they are often wrong or just act like their opinion is law. If you don't post, you could be both beautiful or the biggest ita ever. Basically, people who try to have some credibility in their speech but there is nothing to proof they even know what a lolita dress looks like.

>> No.9931354

>>9928431

Dude, don't be a transphobe. I thought we were past this shit.

>> No.9931358

>>9930159
Some TaoBao lolita brands carry nice shoes by own design, generally up to much higher sizes than Japanese brands do. These inclusies shoes for sweet, and many other styles.

If you wear gothic, Pleaser USA has some shoes that most likely have been inspiring to meta and MmM shoes.

There are options for bigger shoe sizes that are not replica.

Also, how do so many people have such a big feet? I rarely meet people with such sizes unless they are fat and need the bigger size because of the fat on their feet, or when they actually had problems with their feet making them bigger because of swelling and they need special shoes anyways

>> No.9931359

>>9931354
>dude

Don't misgender me you cis shit.

>> No.9931368

>>9930278
As long as you don't cry about not getting shit for free, or act like a spoiled bitch or like you're better than others because you got money and a good life (financially seen), you'll be fine.

Basically, don't be a dick and you'll be fine.

>> No.9931371

>>9931368
But I am better than others. I have more opportunities, better education, and better connections because of my money.

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9931372

>>9931371

>> No.9931383

>>9931175
imagine what a sad life it must be to care about what /cgl/ thinks of you

>> No.9931443

>>9930980
Honestly, if there are more who feel like this, I would drop the com and make a not weeby idiotic com that doesn't require you to like anime.

>> No.9931450

>>9929587
I like the IW cats, but only because they are derpy and I feel like they need love. I'd never wear that dress though.

>> No.9931463

>>9931187
>>9931223
I know there where fandoms all this time. But it's the more the fact normies who never cared about it join in with this geeky and hypster trend that annoys me. They where more embarrassing, but at least they where sincere. These hypster and "geeky" people who are suddenly so much "into" these fandoms (and it are always the same. Like I said, HP, Doctor Who, Starwars, and certain cartoons like Rick & Morthy, Steven Universe, Gravity Falls) really come over to me like they are just "into" that fandom because it's cool now to be the geeky person, and when a new trend comes, they stop being "fans" of it and go to the new trend.

I honestly prefer these kind of groups to stay "weird" instead of becoming mainstream. I might be a bit grumpy to this, being an IT nerd who already feels annoyed gaming became mainstream because of how salt became the norm and people have no respect for developers or each other. But I don't like mainstream people doing geeky or nerdy things, or things that where once considered a weird fandom while obviously not being like the group who did it originally. They change the whole community, and I find them obnouxious 90% of the time. I'll shit on cosplayers cosplaying game characters just because it's popular the exact same way.

I rather be in a little group of nerds, no matter if we get bullied or not (because indeed not all fandoms en groups get bullied, HP definatly not beside obnoxious people, but then it's because they are obnoxious and not because they love HP), than in a big group with a bunch of idiots who just think it's cool but make changes for the negative for the actual fandom people to make it fit their normie taste enough without stopping them from being able to act like little snowflakes unless they can make it mainstream.

>> No.9931464

>>9931122
These mods sound like they would enjoy it and the com would become even worse because they would act like it's positive and make it a cosplay/lolita com.

>> No.9931472

>>9931371
You have better changes on a successful live no matter what you want to archive, that's not the same as being better in general.

As someone who grew up poorfag and worked my ass of to get in a position where I too am going to a very good standing university, got a decent income because I'm working next to it, and have a future ahead of me while also has good connections because I deliver extremely good work in what I do (yay non super capitalistic countries), this is something I that makes me almost feel sad for rich people.

If you think you are a better person because you have more changes and opportunities to get nice things in life you never had to do shit for, you clearly mis a lot of life lessons. You might have it better, but you aren't necessarily better. That's not the same, and this comment you made makes me think the opposite about you.

IDGAF if you're rich or poor, I do care for actions/behaviour. Those make you a good person or not. And right now you sound like you're either trolling, a bitch, or just lacking a lot of knowledge on how life works because you got it handed to you. In that last case I feel the least negative about you. Because remember the anon from rich family that was going to be cut from the money a few (I think feels)treads ago? That might be you in the future if you have bad luck considering that anon was also rich and got it all from her rich family, and if something like that ever happens to you, you're fucked.

In the mean time I know how to get money from owning nothing and earning nothing, how to get myself a good future from nothing, and how to make connections from nothing, because I know how to fend for myself.

>> No.9931477

>>9931472
>that might be you in the future

Wow gee, it's not like I invested in stocks and could fend for myself if that happened. It's not like I have bought gold. It's not like I've assured a safety net.

Keep being bitter. I don't give a fuck what you think.

>> No.9931481

>>9931477
>"I don't give a fuck what you think"
>replies to them anyways with justification
Why would you do that?

>> No.9931484

>>9931481
Because I can? Just like you're free to post whatever you want, shocker, I'm free to post whatever I want. But if you act like some anonymous 4chans poster is greatly important to me because I took the time to reply to it when I'm bored you might actually be retarded

>> No.9931486

>>9931484
Don't you have better things to do when bored? Guess money can't buy taste

>> No.9931488

>>9931486
You're on the same website shitposting right along side me, it's hypocritical to talk about taste.

>> No.9931490

>>9931477
AYRT
>I'm better because I got spoonfed.
>tells you you're not, don't even know why but I tried to reason/explain.
>I did do smart stuff myself to make sure I keep having money! You're so bitter.

Then add >>9931481

You sound like you can't handle someone telling you you aren't the best. Did your rich daddy not tell you not everyone thinks you're their little princess like he does?

You officially fall in the:
>act like a spoiled bitch or like you're better than others because you got money and a good life (financially seen)
Category.
So at least we got an answer to your first question:
>What if I'm a trust fund baby? I don't have to work because of my family oil. Am I not allowed to wear lolita?
You're allowed to, but people will hate you because you're a rude, spoiled, entitled bitch who thinks she's better than others because of something she didn't do shit for.

>> No.9931494

>>9931488
I'm not rich while you are. You said you're better than everyone else so you should have better stuff to do... but you're here instead

>>9931490
Misfire?

>> No.9931498

>>9931494
I don't have to work. there's only so much you can do in a day

>>9931490
people also regularly kiss my ass so idgaf if some salty poorfags dislike me

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>>9931488
Also, anon from
>>9931472
>>9931368
>>9931490
here.

I'm not
>>9931481
>>9931486
Just a little heads-up you talk to different people here. And yes I'm posting here to, unnecessarily replying to you. I find it funny how stupid some people can be. But don't worry, I do the exact same thing on non anonymous places to.

Also, I'm far from a poorfag nowadays. Because like I said, I learned to fend for myself and to build something out of nothing, and I'm quite wanted in my field of work.

>>9931494
No misfire, I just agreed with your points and linked to your comment instead of copy pasting them. I meant the link to you as in "add these point to what I just wrote".

>> No.9931502

>>9931498
>I just answered your initial question originally until you became all bitchy
>obviously don't like the answer
> idgaf if some salty poorfags dislike me
But I'm bitter, kek

>> No.9931508

>>9931498
Also
>there's only so much you can do in a day
How can you never have to do anything, have all the money in the world, and not realise the tons of things you could do.

Although I'm doubting you're really rich and not just some poorfag yourself who wants to act like she's having it better than she is, money and time is the only thing most people are short of, and you just give more reason for people to be sad of you.

If it's true what you say, you sound like a typical case of have everything yet has nothing.

>> No.9931511

>>9931498
>people also regularly kiss my ass
because of your money, not because they like you so much kek.

You poor poor soul...

>> No.9931512

>>9931498
Even without having to work that seems lame. You could do anything you want but you stay here instead.
Besides, don't you have an SO or friends to spend time with? The reason I'm on here and not with them is because we all have to work and plan around our schedules (and because I have nothing better to do). But you don't have to do that.

>> No.9931515

>/cgl/ falling for obvious b8 yet again

I'm not surprised, just disappointed

>> No.9931538

>>9931515
I like to laugh at the stupidity of people who are most likely shitposters who are actually people acting better than they are. I expect a crappy person with a crappy life acting like she's a richfag. Probably one with confidence issues, wouldn't be surprised at a cross border or a fat ita who can't take concrit and act similarly bad to anything not super positive. Maybe someone salty being posted on ita tread, or who just wants attention. Maybe someone who thinks shit posting is funny every now and then.

No matter what it is. If it amuses me they can have that attention they so desperately want.

>> No.9931539

>>9931538
Edgy.

>> No.9931544

>>9929492
I can't speak for everyone, but I got into lolita before the age of 18, and I probably wouldn't be where I am today if I didn't.

I got a job when I was 16 and started buying brand. Easy. Starting at at early age allowed me to jumpstart my wardrobe.

I'm pretty mature for my age but I don't think there's a problem if people act respectful, responsible, and don't have shit taste. After all, there's people well over 18 who look and act terrible. Individual personality > age.

>> No.9931582

>>9931167

Following from this. So called "celebrity" cosplayers atc onventions. So often they just wear slutty versions of costumes and are rarely the best at the con.

>> No.9931583

>>9931215

Damn that's a lot of unpopular opinions

>> No.9931588

>>9931359

Sorry, bro

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Most of you are fat, soulless harpies that will never find a decent partner in life.
80% of your outfits look hideous and no one outside of your autistic circles thinks they're pretty in the slightest.
Most of you are ugly as fuck 3/10's that are just pissed about losing the genetic lottery.

>> No.9931630

>>9931624
This is an unpopular opinion?

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>>9927966

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>>9931624
Thanks Flanders, I pity most of /cgl/ too

>> No.9931691

>>9931033
Damn anon, I don't own any JM shoes but that sucks. Any chance you own any Q-pot leather stuff and know about the quality of that?

>> No.9931871

>>9931544
>I'm pretty mature for my age
Anyone who thinks this is never actually mature for their age. Reminds me of those young girls getting manipulated into relationships with predatory older men who tell them it's ok because they're *so mature*

>> No.9931877

>>9931215
>>9928431
Wow. Just, wow. Eat a sandwich, anons. You'll feel better.

In the meantime: I think AP's Sugar Cross looks cute.

>> No.9931886

>>9931371
Bait

>> No.9931889

>>9929885
I love this anon. S/He's definitely in the minority on /cgl/, but this is a beautiful sentiment.
>>9928774
Agreed. There are easier, more fun ways to get black dick than pretending to be angry about something that has no bearing on your life.
>>9928431
>Fat people
Eat a sandwich and enjoy the spectacle of unflattering cuts, bulgy legs in need of compression hosiery, and straining fabric. It's fun if you put the right spin on it. Just don't discount the few fatties out there who actually know how to dress themselves.
>itas
Dumbass, everyone goes thru an ita phase, even our most obnoxiously efamous demigoddesses. But put a time limit on it. Some gulls learn and come out of it in a year or two. Other butthurt snowflakes think they look good right out of the gate, no matter what kind of concrit they get.
>trannies
Good luck identifying all of them. Was chatting with one at a recent event--didn't even realize until halfway through the conversation. She was cute and had been doing the fashion for decades.

>> No.9932101

>>9931877
I agree its cute but it's just not $200-300 cute. I'd get it for like $80. It feels more like an indie brand piece or a yume kawaii harajuku brand piece.

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>>9931889
seconding all of this to be quite honest. There's no reason to be foaming at the mouth so hard about those three things.

Most fatties look bad imo but i've seen a few looking very cute and well put together (some even working on losing weight or admitting they were big and joking about it like nbd).

I also think /cgl/ gets too nitpicky, half of the time, ita threads have coords that could be easily arranged and besides, we all had ita phases just like you said. Some sadly never learn to take crit tho.

And the hate i see on transfolks is ridiculous,but i can *kinda* understand since because the majority tend to be loud and tumblry or even predatory which makes everyone think all of them are the same but those i am friends with are perfectly fine,passable,and just leading their lives normally. And even quite handsome/pretty i must say.
It's none of your business what they do (unless said person is an actual problem off course).

>> No.9932110

>>9932107
but i'm absolutely against fetishits/sissies, and i fucking hate how they use "oh i'm trans, totes a real woman desu don't be mean uwu" to avoid backlash.

Also against fatties and itas that refuse to learn because good god this is grating when you try to help someone and they're all uppity about it.

>> No.9932122

>>9932107
"It's none of your business what they do"
If only trans people thought that way. I was super supportive of trans rights my whole life until they turned entitled af. I don't give a shit if you want to live as another gender, but now they feel entitled to dates with straight people, trying to change and police people's speech, and for some reason they feel entitled to Hollywood roles, and everything handed to them just because they are trans. And no one is allowed a contrary opinion, otherwise they are transphobic. Not to mention the moving goal posts of what's okay and whats problematic.

A great way to alienate people who previously supported you living the way you are. I don't think they want to exist and live like gay people have wanted to and can finally do. Maybe a tiny minority does, but all the millennial and especially gen z trans just want attention, and shit handed to them.

>> No.9932130

>>9931307
I’m not shitting on Slytherin, I just think it’s funny that 90% of them identify with it despite it not fitting their personalities at all. They just like it because it’s the most edgy house.

>> No.9932148

>>9932122
Yeah i completely agree with you. I think it's absolutely ridiculous. My trans friends think the same. It's sad that the loudest are these types. I'm honestly sorry for anyone who encountered them

>> No.9932155

>>9931215
>doesn't like new school lolita
>doesn't like golden era sweet
>doesn't like old school lolita
what do you like?

>> No.9932177

>>9932155
Not lolita, clearly.

>> No.9932201

>>9931871
Then what do actually mature for their age people think when they can't fit in with peers because they are mentally younger?

Like, I know what you say commonly happens and will be true in most of the cases, but to say it's literally always like that is kinda dumb.

>> No.9932209

>>9932122
Agreed. I too have a good friend who's trans. She doesn't want this attention to it. All she want's is to be seen and talked to as a woman in daily life. She doesn't demand love or rights. She just wants to be left alone an be herself.

These "trans" activist just hurt trans people by giving them a bad name for attention. That friend is the only reason I have some respect for it to be honest. Because I had proof it's not always like that.

>> No.9932323

>>9932201
Yeah, I guess I shouldn't generalize too much. Honestly, part of the reason I say that is because looking back I felt the same when I was younger, and while it's possible I really was more mature in comparison, overall I still didn't know shit. Also, I think a lot of why some people don't fit in is because they're not normies, not because they're too mature.

>> No.9932539

>>9932209
You are okay with trans people only if they don't want rights?

Okay, werk

>> No.9932551

>>9932539
They already have all the rights and live in first world countries. They have a leg up on like 80% of people around the world. They need to sit down and shut up.

>> No.9932635

>>9927966
I'm so, so bitter about fitting into unshirred brand without having some hack take it apart and Frankenstein it. /s

>>9927973
Retarded. Excess fat hurts the brain. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1531487/The-greater-your-weight-the-lower-your-IQ-say-scientists.html (I don't know why they added a picture of a bitter fatty twice, but it's hilarious).

>>9927976
Agreed in the sense that I'd never wear a t-shirt and likely not a cutsew with a skirt either, or go out without a petticoat. Sneakers and other inappropriate footwear does make people look lazy and like a slob.You can still do kind of casual in the sense of not OOT, and go for a toned down look that still preserves the silhouette.

>> No.9932656

>>9928304
Men love to
>pump 'n dump
Fatties, because of the ease and disposablity. Not sure if you enjoy being called a braphog, but have fun with your STDs.

>> No.9932660

>>9928668
Americans, and probably people from the UK and Mexico have no concept of what is overweight. Because nearly everyone is overweight, they call obese people chubby and people of normal weight anachans. A lot of people refuse reality and can't accept they're obese when they clearly are.

Old sauce, it's worse now: https://www.webmd.com/diet/news/20060502/study-us-obesity-underestimated#1

>> No.9932661

>>9928670
Right? This girl is thick as well as not even near overweight because she works out, not because she stuffs her face all day with cupcakes. Fatty chans are delusional when they think their flab looks like this. This girl has a lot of muscle.

>> No.9932663

>>9928688
Are you me? Now that I finally have the money to buy what I want, I'll damn well wear it, into the grave.

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>>9928774
>Your clothes don't fit the silhouette.
>You can't say that! I make minimum wage, support BLM, and am self-diagnosed with BPD, ASPD, invitrofybromyalphobia, and aids.

>> No.9932723

>>9929545
As someone who doesn't like the look of teaparties, and thinks that other options like atsuzoko look like abominations, I'm totally in agreement.

>>9929561
That may be true to some extent, but there are off brand leather shoes that still work with sweet. May take some time to find them though, especially if you need them in pastel vomit. Consider myself lucky that it's easier for classic since brown or gold-ish shoes, as well as muted pastels and jewel toned shoes are easier to find. Gothic should also be no problem as a lot of suitable shoes come in black, and white.

>>9929587
+1. I'd like one crazy cat lady dress some day, but not with cats who look as if they have unfortunate birth defects.

>> No.9932728

>>9930184
Now this should be a bannable offense, unless the wearer has an actual physical disability that accounts for them needing them.
>pooping for daddy
>being a sissy
maybe disabilities, but of the mental kind. Pls don't leave the house without your carer/pervert, and stay away from groups of young girls/women.

>> No.9932730

>>9930521
>There was a time when it wasn't.
Like that time that the 300 lb hambeasts were exhibited as circus freaks and you had to pay money to see them, and you didn't see them lumbering around every day as a matter of course?

>> No.9932741

I think /cgl/ is rude

>> No.9932786

>>9932741
same.

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>>9931215
Toned down gold shoes are fine. Silver is a lot tricker. Agree with the rest of your opinions, anon.

>> No.9932794

>>9928326
I'm a chubby girl with a fit boyfriend. People of all kinds exist. Maybe leave your 4chan bubble sometime.

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>>9931354
>Dude
Really? Why do you always default to male address? Not full of internalized misogyny or anything.

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>>9931877

>> No.9932802

>>9932122
Absolutely agree. They think they have the right, with their male bodies and male DNA, to "redefine" what a woman is. We've been through that for thousands of years, hard no. It's just another way for male bodied individuals to oppress us because of our sex, literally wolves in sheep's clothing.

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>>9932539
They (AGP fetishist late transitioners, not the gay ultra femme early transitioners) want the right to sexually assault lesbians. They've got the right to eat the curb.

>> No.9932809

>>9932794
>fat fetishists exist
Tell us how he won't regret it when you really let yourself go after you're married and put on another 2-300 lb.