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9918248 No.9918248 [Reply] [Original]

What's the the best way to be able to defend yourself while dressed up? Especially if the outfit makes it difficult to kick an assailant in the crotch.

>> No.9918253
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9918253

>>9918248
Grab. Pull. Squeeze. Twist.

Grab the attacker's testicles. Pull fast away from their body. Squeeze as hard as you can and Twist.

>> No.9918262

>>9918248

I carry a 9mm beretta - I have a thigh holster.

>> No.9918264 [DELETED] 

>>9918248
A gun. Mace if you live in a shit country who doesn't allow its citizens to arm themselves.

>> No.9918267

Aim for the soft spots like crotch and eyeballs. Scratch, bite, pull hair.

>> No.9918270

>>9918248
Carry a parasol. Always.
Even better if said parasol can be transformed into a sword.
Just fucking hit them with it, impale them on it,gouge their eyes out with it,...
Also fun fact you can kill someone with some type of heel

>> No.9918273

>>9918270
>some type of heel
Going to need more info there, please.

>> No.9918275

A good kick or this >>9918253 and running to a public place while shouting will always work better than a gun that needs to be drawn and risks killing the person you're using it on.

>> No.9918280

If you're grabbed from behind, use the full force of the head and aim for where you think the chin is.

Also take a self defense class. I was forced to take one for work but they have a few really neat tips like above. I might take one again in the future. It's not foolproof by any means but you feel better armed the more you practice.

>>9918264

And learn how to shoot it. So many people carry a gun and don't know how to use it, leading to a lot of situations where panic gets the better of you and you don't actually use it to shoot or even intimidate. You'd think it'd be inherently obvious, but it isn't.

>> No.9918281

>>9918273
Well,stiletto heels but i'm sure that a blunt hit to the head with chunky mary jane heels or Mana stripper platforms could do some damage

>> No.9918283

>>9918248
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/assaulted-tale-aka-this-bird-wont-fly/

>They will look for women who’s clothing is easy to remove quickly. The #1 outfit they look for is overalls because many of them carry scissors around to cut clothing and on overalls the straps can be easily cut.
>These men said they will not pick on women who have umbrellas, or other similar objects that can be used from a distance, in their hands.

Lolita clothing it is difficult to remove and uses many layers, so most rapists will not see you as a potential target and if you carry a parasol or umbrella with you you already have something on your hands for self defense.

>> No.9918285

I carry a gun.

>> No.9918286

>>9918283

I'm really confused why you're citing a post which three paragraphs down was debunked hard.

>> No.9918297

>>9918286
I greentexted the paragraphs I agreed with anon..
I mainly searched for the umbrella thing and it was one of the first hits on google. At least I am delivering sources.

>> No.9918308

>>9918297

Except it's immediately debunked in the following paragraphs. They go over how it doesn't matter what you're wearing even if you broadly stereotype rapists. They also state the original e-mail is from an instructor who is extremely secretive about his secrets to beating rapists and wasn't exactly forthcoming when asked for an interview.

It's like citing the one fraudulent study that the quack doctor did as evidence that vaccines cause autism.

>> No.9918312

>>9918253
won't work on a female

>> No.9918320

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kDUyTPjyyjk
Close enough

>> No.9918324

>>9918264
omg can you please stop bringing up politics everywhere

>> No.9918335

>>9918324
>muh gun defines me

>> No.9918338 [DELETED] 

>>9918324
You are WAY too sentivie if you're getting upset over that

>> No.9918340

>>9918264
Mace is illegal in my country. If you carry anything with the "intent" to harm it's deemed an offensive weapon.

>> No.9918341 [DELETED] 

>>9918340
Move. You might as well be in prison.

>> No.9918343

>>9918281
The thought of a lolita bludgeoning someone with a Mana platform heel is such a fantastic image.

>> No.9918442

>>9918270
Safely taking your heels off fast enough to use as a weapon isn't always easy, plus if you step on something sharp it could cause you more problems. Wearing lolita-suitable flat shoes is probably a better idea if you're going somewhere that concerns you - best way to avoid trouble is to run away, after all, but even if you're not able to, you need a stable base to fight effectively - even punches and elbow strikes (which look like upper-body only actions to a lot of people) are much more effective if the force you put into them comes from the whole body. If you're wearing heels that you can easily step out of without undoing straps, you're probably better off without wearing them, and they might be useful as an improvised weapon, especially chunky Mana-heels with some good weight and solidity to them - force is mass times acceleration, after all, so swing them fast if you need to use them.

A lot of parasols are quite flimsy by design, and while being hit by one isn't going to be fun, the struts and fabric absorb a lot of the impact if you hit someone with the canopy end - use the handle end if you have to use a parasol. If it's spring-loaded, then opening it suddenly in front of their face might work as a startle to give you chance to dash off.

>>9918267 - indeed, being attacked means you don't have to be a lovely, keeping yourself safe and /getting away from the attacker/ is more important than being ladylike.

>>9918275 Also good advice - being in Lolita means you'll probably distinctive enough to attract a lot of attention, and screaming, making a fuss, etc. will attract attention, and if someone's trying to mug/rob/whatever, they probably don't want to be recognised, or filmed by some gawper with a smartphone.

Most of all, unless you can't run away, fighting isn't the best option - getting out of the situation is. If someone's acting super creepy or aggressive, avoid them before it escalates, and if you're somewhere with security, inform them.

>> No.9918492

>>9918312
attackers are more often males though,but a female alternative would be nice indeed

>> No.9918504

>>9918264
Sadly both are not legal to carry on you here. But bear spray is, somehow, despite being very similar to mace.

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>>9918341
I'm guessing based off what they said they are in a prison.

That being said, a gun really is the best option, with a parasol probably being a decent choice if you live in a shit state or country. Google singlestick or canne de combat if you're going to actually go with a parasol for self-defense.

>> No.9921083

>>9918280
I would aim for nose rather than chin if you're tall enough. If you hit someone's chin with the back of your head it can be pretty sore so you may stun yourself rather than the other person. Also don't be afraid to start making noise and screaming at them to fuck off and take their hands off you; so many people freeze (basically fight/flight/freeze is how people react to danger) and that makes it easier for someone to attack you.

>> No.9921112

>>9918262
Man I just really love being American.

>> No.9921150

It’s old school AF, but the unarmed section of this 14th century Italian combat manual has more than a few tricks that have worked for me in open sparring and a few hairy sittuatuons.
http://www.the-exiles.org/FioreProject/Fiore%20Getty%20MS%20Representation%20(Combined).pdf

>> No.9921198

>>9918248
just learn how to fight/take self defense classes fampai

lolita isn't the ideal fashion to maneuver in obviously but it's not impossible whatsoever. if you're the kind of person who's able to run/jump in heels, you'll have no problem kicking the shit out of somebody too. adding onto this, the best form of self defense is doing your utmost to prevent something from happening in the first place. if you're going somewhere that might be dangerous if you draw attention, either a) don't wear lolita or b) travel in a pack.

>> No.9921200

just got my Btssb pepper-spray in the mail

>> No.9921241

I have been taught from a young age to run/jump/kick in heels of various heights on various grounds (not just perfectly even sidewalk). I do martial arts and will practice movies in shoes and petticoats just to get the feeling. My one lolita friend carries a concealed and the other has a taser.

>> No.9921260 [DELETED] 

Hello everyone I'm Kimmi desu ~ so I've been wondering.. do Lolitas hate sexual stuff related to Lolita because it's just so hard to have sex in Lolita? I was trying with my boyfriend, and I had so many layers on it was so difficult! And I don't wanna wear a cage skirt because that's BDSM, and I'm not into that.As a conservative Texan girl, I don't want boys to see up my skirt so easily. Do you guys have any recommendations on making Lolita sex easier? I came to CGL because I don't want my local community to know my sexual struggles, as I know sex is poorly regarded when in Lolita. Does anyone have any tips or suggestions? Much appreciated!

>> No.9921265

>>9918275
If someone is attacking me, I don't care if they die. They made their choice.

>> No.9921273

>>9918340
What do you do for self defense in your country? Throws sticks at your assailant?

>> No.9921279

>>9918283
The whole "if their clothes are easy to get out of" and "won't attack with umbrellas" is not some universal. Do not listen to this. Anyone who's worn lolita know that some men specifically go for you because you DON'T look like every other girl. It's like some fetish where instead of bimbo type, they want the strange girl decked in layers of frills they think is into age play.

Something like an umbrella is not going to matter and they're just not that strong, especially if the attacker has a weapon. Also, keep in mind some attackers and harassers aren't going to come for you sexually. Some are going to be on drugs or drunk.

The best thing is never to try and "get into the mind" of a stranger you know nothing about. Know exactly what you personally need to do in emergencies and get a good weapon as an equalizer.

>> No.9921291

>>9921260
Join a convent

>> No.9921530

>>9921260
....This is a self-defense thread, not a sex ed thread.....

and just cuz you don't want to talk to your comm doesn't mean they aren't on here reading what you posted.....

and why???? These outfits cost a lot, why ruin them with body fluids? If its hard to have sex in lolita maybe that's a sign from the divine that it's not a good idea...

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>>9921530
my fucking god, anon

>> No.9921575

>>9921273
No, we just punch them out.

>> No.9921579

>>9921260
Kimmi I'm sorry but you're not allowed to come to our Sunday tea parties anymore.

>> No.9921582

>>9918248
Intimidate them with your affected accent and red contact lenses.

>> No.9921589

>>9918340
does your country offer self defense lessons or something to the general public?

>> No.9921623

>>9918248
Depending on where you live, pepper spray can be bought on Amazon.

Remember to deploy the spray once it a while.

Cardio is your best defense. Running away is always preferable to pepper spray or any forms of physical confrontation.

>> No.9921875

>>9921265
you'll go to prison for manslaughter even in an obvious case of self defense half the time because of excessive force

>> No.9921879

>>9918312
>>9918492
Won't work on an eunuch either.
Attacking the eyes works on anyone.

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When I lived in a large city and took public transit to meets a lot, I would carry a pepper spray on my keychain, a knife in my purse, and another knife in my dress/skirt pocket (or bloomers pocket).

Sometimes I thought it was overkill, but in situations that were sketchy I felt glad to have it all.

>> No.9922546

>>9921875
What shit country do you live in?

>> No.9922620

>>9921200
pic\link?
i use to have a kawaii af pink heart covered peperspray key chain and id love to get another

>> No.9922624

>>9922546
probably 'Murica.Yyou can get locked up for shooting someone intruding into your home in the middle of the night and be locked up for "excessive force" weather or not they live or die. if they live they can even sue you on top of the charges.

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>>9918312
Finally I have a reason to use this pic.

>> No.9923864

>>9918253
I doubt that would work on me
I guess I would only get erected by that

>> No.9924129

>>9918248
What the fuck are you doing that you need this? Beside the usual comments and stares I never had anything, let alone something that would make me have need to use fighting techniques?

Honestly, learning how to behave in every environment you'll get yourself in as well as common sense and not being naive keeps you out of real trouble. Defending should be last resort, not your first. Go work on avoiding instead.

>> No.9924136

>>9924129
Anyways, either use something you're skilled in or make sure you can run.

If you want to fight, you need to have had training, both in techniques as physique (and you need to have them in your system still). If you want to use a gun, you need to know how to use it as well as be able to aim, and be able to dare to shoot. Same for knife attacks. I could go on forever like this. Best way to defend will always depend on situation, what you have with you, your own skills, and the things around you. There is no definite best answer to keep you save, beside staying out of danger to start with.

Source: I'm someone who has walked on streets with drugdealers, criminals and hookers late after midnight and I'm still here and unhurt.

>> No.9924137

>>9924136
note:
>Beside the usual comments and stares I never had anything
is on me wearing lolita

> I'm someone who has walked on streets with drugdealers, criminals and hookers late after midnight and I'm still here and unhurt.
Is obviously not me wearing lolita. Don't wear it in such places. That's asking for problems

>> No.9924162

>>9922633
Great advice desu.

>> No.9924175

>>9918248
/k/ agrees with me that thigh holster is where it's at, even with the awkward draw.
I could carry a .454 Casull with my poof, but my carry piece is a Bersa Thunder .380 duo tone. Looks great with my oldschool coords.

>> No.9924178

>>9918253
No fucker, go for the eyes. Men know to defend the jewels, it's reflexive. Grab that twats face and dig your thumbs in until you see red.

>> No.9924181

>>9922624
Depends on where you live.
"I was in fear for my life"
Just make sure the attacker is dead and stays that way, because civil lawsuits are the bane of any decent citizen.

>> No.9924753

>>9922633
>front butt
I am screaming

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>>9918248
Gulls, if you plan on going anywhere potentially dangerous, you really need to either get a CCW or move out of your shithole country to a place where you can get one. Japan doesn't count as a shithole because it's actually safe.

>> No.9924988

>>9924175
I want to see a lolita carrying something in .454 Casull, closest thing I've seen to that is a Homura cosplayer OC'ing a Deagle at Wal-mart.

>> No.9925599

find one of those guys with a ballbusting fetish and ask to practice on them for training

>> No.9925855

Pretty sure the country where you can't have guns, pepper spray or use any other item with intent to harm (and, yes, there have been cases where items used only in defense resulted in charges, and can also go to prison for not using proportional force is good old Australia.

>> No.9925887

>>9925855
lol wtf Australia? honestly I'd want a taser if I lived there, fuck kangaroos and abos

>> No.9925905

>>9925887
Every native Australia animal is dangerous, including abos

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>> No.9925911

>>9925905
ESPECIALLY abos, can't believe we humans are in the same genus as those creatures.

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You probably could used grips like these with a different design to match your coord, especially if you're going for a British theme.

>> No.9925966

>>9925910
Friendly reminder that knives are one of the worst weapons for self defense. If someone can overpower you physically and they're not easily intimidated, all you're doing is opening yourself up to get disarmed and put in a potentially life threatening position.

I know it was iterated before in this thread but I really worry about you gulls. Having a military dad who grew up as a street thug really helped me get good perspective on the dos and don'ts of self defense. He told me flat out that he's ashamed of the time when he was a 14 year old little runt who managed to get a rape off someone twice his age just because she pulled out a knife on him when all he intended to do at first was mug her. Yes, I know it's fucked up, yes he knows he fucked up, but he has always been very open with me and was telling me these things for perspective. He was always worried about karma turning on him and making his daughter into a victim of the dumb shit he did when he was younger.

Please don't use knives. Unless you're actually adept at using them and agile enough to attack before a disarm attempt, you'll put yourself in harm's way. Pepper spray is what I carry on me. All you need to do is cripple and run. Even with self defense training, I will always cripple and run first before I attempt actual combat. Don't even go for an attack while they're rubbing their eyes in agony if you're at a distance - they may be blind but they can still grab a limb to hold you in place to prevent your getaway. Attacking should really be reserved for if you're already caught or about to be caught and need to break away.

>> No.9926049

>>9925966
What? So your dad raped a 28-year-old woman when he was 14 because she pulled a knife on him? Did I read that correctly?

>> No.9926191

>>9926049

nayrt but I've seen some 14 year olds who tower over me and look like they're 24 no joke. Age has no meaning if they're super thug and strong.

>> No.9926398

Just run or don't find your self in places alone with sketchy people. You should take up some self defence classes however, empower yourself beyond when you dress up.

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>>9924988
CCing a full sized handgun in Lolita would troublesome, tho the closest you'd see someone in Lolita carrying a .454 Casull is if it was the 2.5".
>>9926398
This and find a class that teaches you about situational awareness and de-escalation its will save you from conflict.

>> No.9926432

Literally fucking ROAR and bite a chunk of their cheek off then spit it back into their face, preferably their mouth.

But honestly if you're the type of person who'd consider this/come up with it, nobody really wants to fuck with you anyway. Some people just ooze crazy rage vibes, regardless of their appearance.

>> No.9926472

>>9918248
Hammer

>> No.9926477

>>9926049
>>9926191
Drank too much milk

>> No.9927058

>>9926049
Yes. I asked him something similar for clarification long ago.
At 14 he was already pretty tall, and from what I understand it wasn't so much that he raped her "just because" she pulled the knife on him, I think it was more just the heightened adrenaline from introducing a weapon into the situation and making an unarmed robbery into an armed one. By then I think it was just a situation of "fuck it, we're already in this far and now that I've got a better look at your face, I want more than just your wallet now" kind of thing. Definitely not making excuses for him, but understanding what could go through the mind of a potential attacker helps you evaluate the situation a bit more strategically. By brandishing a weapon you may accidentally make the assailant feel like you're challenging them and make them want to assert their dominance like some primal chimp or something. By then you may actually aggravate them to do worse. Just avoid combat all together unless absolutely necessary. It's just safer. Pepper spraying can aggravate too, but it gives you a better chance of escape than trying to hold your own in armed combat against someone who may or may not be much more experienced in street brawls than you.

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>>9918248
CUNT PUNT that little thottie

>> No.9927106

>>9918248
I can bulldoze any just about any man because I got big ol gorilla arms and man shoulders. I can only imagine that would look comical to someone since I wear lolita. I also work in a warehouse where I lift 75 lb packages all day. I dare someone to try and fuck with me. I can’t legally own a gun due to my past hospitalizations from suicide attempts so pepper spray is really my only option.

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ITT

>> No.9927265

>>9918248
weapon

>> No.9927540
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Self defense AND lolita in the same thread? Yes!

For all the people here talking about concealed knives and such, please check your local laws. Not just national or state, city as well. Possession of concealed knives (made to be hidden in other objects) are a felony in plenty of jurisdictions, as are fixed blades above a certain length.

Also, make sure to read up on the legal definition of self defense, because it's not what most people think it is. If you manage to incapacitate someone, or they stop fighting back, you can't keep hitting them. Then you're just committing assault or attempted murder.

If you've got time, I recommend a self defense class (I study Krav Maga), but not everyone has a few years to get good at fighting. If you want to arm yourself, don't go straight for a gun. It takes a LOT of training to get good with a pistol (at least 1,000 rounds) and using a weapon at a gun range is wildly different from drawing the weapon after someone has grabbed you by the hair and started hitting you. Guns are actually quite difficult to use at close quarters when everyone is flailing around.

For weaponry, I'd recommend mace, if you can get it. It requires no training (if you can operate hairspray, you can operate mace), and it doesn't require you to get close to the person trying to harm you (unlike a stun gun or knife).

For physical strikes, I would avoid kicks. Between the skirts, heels, and sometimes corsetry, it's going to be hard to keep your balance. Palm strikes to the face and jaw are good. Got finger nails? Claw for the eyes.

Also: Use your voice. In stress situations, people tend to be quiet. It's animal instinct stuff. You need to be the opposite.

Imagine if you're at a meet, and you have some friends who would totally help you out. That's awesome. But imagine if someone tried to harm you while you're in the bathroom, or around a corner, or generally out of sight. If you stay quiet, all of those friends and help means nothing. Be loud!

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>>9927540
Also, to follow up on my own post: If you're interested in self defense stuff, I can't recommend the book 'Facing Violence' by Rory Miller enough. The book doesn't teach you how to fight, but it provides an insightful and sobering view into how most violence plays out in the real world.

It also talks about dealing with the psychological and legal consequences of seriously fucking up another person. Those are problems that are a lot easier to handle if you are prepared for them ahead of time.

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>>9927570
I actually heard an interview with this guy on one of the survivalist podcasts I listen to, and he seems to actually know his shit unlike most "experts."

>> No.9927626

>>9925966
Sounds like something a rapist would say to stop someone from carrying a knife.

>> No.9927661

>>9927540
>>9927626
Thing is, knives are only good if it is at hand and ready to go. Same as mace, it can’t be in the bottom of your handbag and your attacker up close and grabbing you.

These thing are great if you are ready and have time to react in advance to an attacker coming for you. For a surprise attack, you are probably better off screaming and punching him in the throat and running, rather than going for a weapon.

>> No.9927711

>>9927661
This. They're far better as weapons if you're attacking an unaware victim than they are a self-defense weapon. The primary reason guns are better for self-defense is you're able to put distance between yourself and the attacker, and are more likely to stop the attacker before they can cause you serious harm. While for knife fighting, it's commonly said that the winner of a knife fight is the person who bleeds out the last out of the two.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYwd0Wus5Ik

>> No.9927725

>>9927626
I can't tell if this a joke or not but they're not wrong at all. I've heard from policemen.

>> No.9927804

Use your magic.

Wait, lolitas are magic, right?

>> No.9927864

>>9926191
14 year olds are weak af and probably squat less than 1pl8 too

>> No.9927925

my dad has always told me go for the eyes and scream bloody murder .
what I find helps when I’m uncomfortable With someone is to pretend to retch and make gross heaving sounds and actions like I’m flu-ey and gonna hurl. It makes people up and leave straight away. I used to work nights in the shit part of town and this has stopped people from following me or trying to bum cash

>> No.9930774

>>9918340
There are some very easily concealable weapons you can carry.
Like an extendable metal rod with a ball tip. It's tiny, but I've held one and the impact force is insane for how small it is.

>> No.9930914

>>9930774
Plus Lolita is a ruffly fashion, good for hiding things.

>> No.9931170

>>9918248
>best way to be able to defend yourself while dressed up?
Start by learning to be able to defend yourself while NOT dressed up and work your way up from there.

>> No.9931172

>>9918262
Tell me it's a frilly one

>> No.9931183

>>9918504
Legal trick: carry the (legal to own) bear spray in an easy-to-get place of the purse, but (as it's likely to be treated as a mace spray, not always legal to own, if you use it against someone) keep the original smal plastic bag they gave you at the store you bought it, with the receipt inside, at an out-of-the-way, hard-to-get place of the purse. Plausibly deniability. "Yes, officcer, I bought it for my camping gear ages ago. Luckily I forgot to take it out of the purse when I bought it!".

>> No.9931186

>>9921575
This.Carrying a weapon that you don't know how to use is gonna get you killed.
BECOME a weapon instead.

>> No.9932235

The amount of people who think it's normal to have a gun to shoot at people, or that thinks it's the best way of defence is scarily big.

Needing a weapon is already bad. If you can randomly bulk into people attacking you with a gun that's already bad. Where I come from, you have to try hard to get a gun in your face. Even for cops it's a last resort and not commonly used.

If you're really worried you could take some fighting sport. But even that shouldn't be necessarily unless you go to bad neighbourhoods or hang around the wrong people.

>> No.9932238

>>9932235
Guess they hang around criminals, or are American?

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>>9932235
I mean, I own a fire extinguisher. It just seems better to have a firearm and not need it than to need a firearm and not have it. I say this as someone who's served in the military and has done "fighting sports," to use your term. Most cases you can avoid confrontations with common sense, but there's always that one in a thousand chance that shit just wont work out and you'll find yourself in a bad situation. To make it worse a frilly poofy dress and Mary Janes or heels are absolutely horribly to try and run in, making you an easy target. And the expensive clothing makes you far more likely to be targeted, since to be fair no one would expect a lolita to be carrying. So I'd much rather have a firearm with me since it's maybe a pound of extra weight to carry. The odds are strongly in my favor that I wont need to use it and wont even be near any situation where I need to use it, but if I absolutely have to defend myself, against someone who more than likely has a significant size advantage, I will have the means to do so. And statistically speaking a gun is the best means of defense. It's the only thing you can carry that doesn't have as high of a risk of failure as OC spray and tasers, or require physical strength like a sap or Asp like others have mentioned in this thread. And it also doesn't require you to be up close like a knife would because honestly you're probably already screwed if you're in a knife fight.

And for the people crying "what about the safety of the attacker," the attacker forfeited his right to safety when he decided to attack innocent people and specifically target people who look like they'd be unable to defend themselves.

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>>9932253
Thats a nice outfit

>> No.9932265

>>9924181
that only works if you’re white

>> No.9932270

>>9932264
I would unironically wear it desu.

>> No.9932302

You literally can't go wrong with a gun

>> No.9932546

>>9932235
Guns are an equalizer. I'm not exactly pro-gun but I definitely see the logic in giving those who are at risk of losing any physical confrontation some means of winning. Say you have an old couple, and their house is getting robbed or the elderly woman is getting violently pinned down for an assault. Do you think they stand a chance being in their 80's/90's against mid 20 year old thugs that can probably snap their frail spinal cords with a single well placed punch? The police aren't going to be there to help them, they have to protect their selves. There's very little amount of "fighting sport" those who are just physically weaker than their assailants will be able to get to stand a chance, and that's still a hefty investment. Getting a gun and just trying it out in a range for a while is all you need to stand a fighting chance against most people.

I don't know why so many people drive so hard to the defense of those who are willingly going out of their way to harm others.

>B-but you didn't need to take his life! He could have reformed in prison!!

Depending on the crime being committed, I could give zero fucks if this person dies on the spot for tampering with my well being out of their selfish desires. I'm not going to sit back and get raped or let a friend get raped just because he can "reform" later. They knew the risks and still did it anyway, now let them take the punishment that comes with it.

>> No.9933293

>>9918248
thigh holster with a pistol/bowie knife/telescopic baton.


Other than that, always stay alert and if any of the above is illegal in you country a simple folding knife will be more than enough to scare most of the rapists

>> No.9933358

Call the police and run away

>> No.9934244

Just become a military Lolita with an Assault Rifle, no one will fuck with you.

>> No.9934252

>>9934244
That isn’t a thing you valor stealing thief

>> No.9934255

>>9934244
I would if anyone made decent pleated camo skirts, and the My Little Armory one is sold out.

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>>9934255
I've made camo skirts in the past desu.

>> No.9934365

>>9934342
Very nice! I really need to learn how to sew more complex things like that

>> No.9936152

The best advice is to stay out of situations where you might be attacked. Travel in groups at night, avoid secluded areas that lead to dead ends, things like that.

But if you're in a situation where you're being attacked and there's no other option, there are a couple of things you can do. Go for the eyes, first. If you can't do that, slap the ears. Make your hands as stiff as possible and clap them against the ears. It'll throw them off balance and give you time to get away.

If you're grabbed for behind, grab two fingers and PULL. Try to get the middle/fore in one hand and ring/pinkie in the other. Most human beings have at least a second's reaction to pain, so don't stick around. Run away.

Also, carry around a handbag. Put rocks in it, at the bottom for a swinging device. Just keep in mind that any weapon you carry can be grabbed and used against you.

Crotch shots tend not to work. Don't knee them in the naughty bits, kick them in the knee (or better, the back of the knee). Stomp their foot or hit their ankle. Your best bet is to get them incapacitated, then take off.

AND DON'T STICK AROUND TO CONTINUE ASSAULTING THEM. You have nothing to prove, and the longer you stick around the more likely it is that they'll turn the tables. You don't know what weapons they might have, you don't know what kind of person they'll turn into after being injured, and you don't know if they have friends hanging around. Find your opening and get the fuck out of there.

>>9926398

Self-defense classes don't really work. You're prepared for what happens in a self-defense class. You're not prepared for what's going to happen on the streets. Although, I'll say this, you HAVE to have confidence. Sometimes those classes give women confidence, so that's okay. But don't take them as anything but that.

Stay safe, my beautiful gulls.

>> No.9936167

Nobody is gonna be in a situation where they need self defense. Stop larping.

>> No.9937721

>>9926421
>.454 with 2.5in barrel
Fuck that hand I guess, you weren't using it anyway.
Really silly thing to actually post with seriousness anon, wow.

>> No.9937723 [DELETED] 

>>9936167
t. male crossboarder

>> No.9937724

>>9936167
Deluded as fuck.

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>>9918275
>work better than a gun that needs to be drawn and risks killing the person you're using it on
>risks killing the person you're using it on
/k/ anon here. If you pull a gun, shoot to kill. This is not a meme, if you pull a gun and do not shoot to kill, you WILL go to prison for escalating the situation and murder. There are no warning shots, there is no "shoot them in the leg/arm", you fucking magdump the body and say nothing but "I was in fear for my life". Anything between not drawing at all, and that, will get you in prison or at least a horrendous lawsuit that will ruin your life.

Really, don't pull a gun unless you fully intend to waste a fucker in self defense.

>> No.9942414

>>9918248
Real lolitas would squat down, cover their head, and cry when under attack. The white knights (usually) arrives to help fend off attackers.

>> No.9942693

A gun. A guy who really wants to rape you or fuck you up is going to do nothing but laugh if you try to beat him up with a fucking umbrella or kick him in the balls.

We don’t fall down and pass out when you give our nuts a panicked little love tap and if you swung an umbrella at me I’d probably just laugh and let you hit me with it.

Carry a fucking gun, or mace, or a taser, or a knife. Your attacker will probably be way bigger than you and even if he isn’t he’ll still probably be stronger than you. Unless you’re attacked by a midget or a turbo manlet onions drinking fag you’re going to want a real weapon for real defense.

>> No.9942698

>>9927864
So does your average 28 year old woman. Rapists target people they know they can overpower. You don’t target an ogre for rape, you target someone you know you can completely overwhelm. This thread is full of retards, most of the advice here will literally get you fucking killed.

>> No.9942711

>>9937727
you also have make note when you shot. you stop shooting when the threat is no longer present or has stopped being a threat.

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>2018
>not augmenting your parasol to skewer a motherfucker

>> No.9943329

>>9918264
Even terrible states wouldn't blink if you were a girl carrying a gun and you used it to defend yourself.

>> No.9943331

Guys don't want to fuck lolitas. Your silly dresses and wigs are natural dick repellent.

It's like a LARPer asking "How do I defend myself against guys who want to rape me while I'm in my wizard's chainmail?"

>> No.9943334

>>9943331
>implying anyone wants to fuck the majority of the guys that go to cons

>> No.9943342

>>9943334
That's what alcohol is for. You, dumb slut.

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>>9943331

>> No.9943350

>>9943331
Good they stay away naturally. I have enough those who would and I prefer not to waste my time on people who find my taste in clothing unbearable. It's not like I would choose anyone over my clothes anyway.

>> No.9943351

>>9943331
Good. That's what makes lolita so great.

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>>9943331
>Your silly dresses and wigs are natural dick repellent.
That just makes me want to start wearing lolita fashion t b h.

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>>9943331
>Your silly dresses and wigs are natural dick repellent.

This is why lolita is fucking great

>> No.9943466

>>9918248
Keister a Glock like everyone else

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>>9943331
You say that like it’s a bad thing

>> No.9944209

>>9918248
>kick an assailant in the crotch.
That does not stop anyone who is angry or motivated.

>> No.9944226

>>9937727
This is probably the best advice in the thread, at least if you're in the US.

>> No.9944251

>>9926432
This, if you're not already projecting batshit crazy social dominance while wearing lolita change your body posture. No matter how insane or plain you're, dressed if you're projecting assertive body posture you're less likely to be a target. Can't be prey if you're broadcasting predator

>> No.9944277

>>9944209
it'll get me hard if anything

>> No.9950173

>>9943331
agreed this shit is for girls younger than 15

>> No.9950191

>>9918264
aren't you punished X times more if you own a gun and they sue?

>> No.9950227

>>9944226
Agreed, also they can't argue their side or prosecute you if they're dead so it makes it easier in a way. Sad but true.

>> No.9956056

>>9950191
Dead men can't press charges. If he's not dead you dun goofed and you will, in fact, get raped in prison.

>> No.9957579

>>9924129
excuse me but sometimes there are real nutjobs around, just attacking the next person who walks past them without warning for no apparent reáson.
It might sound strange to you because you've never experienced this, but I actually know quite some people who got out of the blue attacked by random strangers, without even signaling a fight/potentially dangerous situation before or whatsoever.
these are the worst situations, because you can not prepare to get away or get ready to defend yourself for something you didn'T see coming.
BUT you can train your reflexes, mind and muscle memory to react fast in such nasty situations, and may it be to get away asap before some nutjob asshole lands a hit on you.

never letting your guard down doesn't mean to be paranoid either.
it's annoying, but these people exist.
It can happen to literally everyone

>> No.9957589

..I remember a friend telling me that his grandma was getting chased by creepy strangers quite often when she was younger, and she told her that she started acting like she was absolutely crazy, blabbering shit to herself and moving strange, which freaked them out so much that they left her alone

>> No.9957594

>>9918248
pointy jewelry combined with a backhand.

>> No.9957630

>>9937727
This is one of the first things I was told from an older and wiser friend when I said I was going to get my CCL.

>> No.9957659

>>9937727
>awkward guy moves toward lolita, makes awkward noises because he's socially retarded, but keeps a distance and does nothing that is a blatant threat (would prompt me as an onlooker to intervene)
>lolita freaks out and shoots him because she's a dumb cunt that should have been aborted
>guy dies
As a witness to a murder, can I bring her to court and testify against the bitch so she can get thrown in jail and get raped to death?

>> No.9957661

>>9956056
>Dead men can't press charges
Witnesses can.

>> No.9958069 [DELETED] 

>>9927711
>razor blade hat
w2c? if i cover my clothes in razor blades will i be invisible?

>> No.9958095 [DELETED] 

>>9943331
>there are women who will unironically think its good to be unfuckable and repulsive to men

>> No.9960807

Consider going to like a Muay Thai class or Jujitsu that's reputable and not some Krav Magoo crap and learn some actual self defense

Unfortunately if you're a woman, you're always going to be at a disadvantage but its better than nothing

>> No.9960812

>>9957659
In your dreams, you sperg

>> No.9960832

>>9957659
>awkward guy moves toward lolita, makes awkward noises because he's socially retarded, but keeps a distance and does nothing that is a blatant threat
Are you speaking from experience, Anon?

>> No.9960833

>>9918248
Get a ccw

>> No.9960836

>>9943331
I wish lolita was wizard's chainmail.

>> No.9960858

A gun, morons. Most attackers are male and you're not overpowering one, not even the little itty bitty turbo manlets.