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30 bucks, capped at 1000 badges, no con center, radisson hotel only

so glad Random Battle Con 2 is finally happening

>> No.9902829

>1k badge limit
why are they doing this to themselves? 1k attendees is tiny, really tiny.

>> No.9902919

Shuto's got more pull in their name than RBC did, even though it was run by the same people, so I think it's got enough of a fan base it'll sell out (for comparison, RBC sold about 400 badges). But I doubt that'll be enough to keep Stefanie afloat, since she doesn't really have another source of income and there aren't many other places in Lansing suitable for a convention of Shuto's size. I get the feeling that although this is supposed to be a "gap" year or mini-con for Shuto while they look for a venue that can match the Lansing Convention Center, it's really gonna be its last.

>> No.9903552

>>9902829

They lost the convention center so it's just in the tiny ass hotel connected to it.

>> No.9904194

1000 badges is tiny, but I feel like it’s going to seem overcrowded in just the Raddison. Does the Raddison even have enough space to host a convention? I think there’s just the room where registration usually is, the big hallway by the registration room, and then the rooms where con ops and pre-judging usually are. And then the downstairs area by the Starbucks and the lobby, but you can’t really set up convention shit there.

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>> No.9904410

>>9904364
so get ready for either no artists, or a godaiko con level walkout

>> No.9904426

>>9904364
>Win vip badge
>Options are either to not get a vip badge for 2019 and shitty attendance or wait for the 2020 con that probably won't happen
This is amazing lmao

>> No.9904427

>>9904364
I wonder if this is available to the 2017 winners who never got their 2018 badge and got blocked by Stephanie for asking

>> No.9904482

>safe space button removed from site
time to bully

>> No.9905337

i hear they have over 50k in debt still. shito isn't gonna make that back with a minicon
cheap as free guests or no guests
no artist or dealer in there right mind would apply
shito is dead

>> No.9905346

>>9903552
>They lost the convention center
Do we know why?

>> No.9905348

>>9905346
Ya can't hold a function at a place that ya can't pay for

they just didn't pay them

>> No.9905352

>>9904482
is she finally giving up on that cringy shit

>> No.9905361

>>9904427
She needs cash she wont honor shit

Do we know if guests staff and panels have been paid?

>> No.9905441

>>9905352
Hahaha no. It'll take more than a good episode of South Park to convince her.

>> No.9905515

>>9902814
Oh boy, time for another video.

>> No.9905550

>>9905515
Please lol

>> No.9905781

>>9902829
Cause the Raddison is a box of a hotel. Small as fuck.

>> No.9905808

>>9905515
Yes

>> No.9905825
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>>9905515

>> No.9906231

Rip Shuto

>> No.9906242
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at least she has her ugly sans knock off plush to fall back on

now with added gross cultural appropriation

>> No.9906245
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That face sums it all up.

>> No.9906404

Rip shito

>> No.9906411

love how they were saying the website is under construction like it was about to get a nice little makeover, and then the new one looks exactly the same.

>> No.9906413

Say has anyone noticed that the cons group went from having ~6 admins to now only having 3? Wonder what happened there.

>> No.9906989

>>9906413
i heard 4 of the main staff resigned

notice how there are no dept leaders listed on the staff page

ghost town

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>>9906989
Apparently it's because they're on summer vacation. I bet Nancy dumped Stefanie, so a bunch of them bailed on the con because she's such a mess.

>> No.9907707

>>9907614
still probably easier than trying to get a response about anything from youmacon tho

>> No.9908039

>>9904194

Yeah it's gonna be crowded as fuck. Also located no single day passes. Big Stef wants to squeeze every last bit she can.

>> No.9908048

>>9908039

Lol at

>> No.9908079 [DELETED] 

>>9904482

>> No.9908081
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>>9904482

>> No.9908088

So I'm just gonna say that even if Shuto Con sells all 1000 tickets (which is a pretty big if), they're not gonna be able to make their money back. With 1000 tickets selling for $35 each, the con will make no more than $35000 on sales. Once you subtract the costs of booking the hotel ($7000-1200?), paying for guests (each guest is $500-1000 each, so if they get 6 guests that's about $3000-6000 for that, plus the costs of the guests hotel rooms), paying for the panel hosts, events, equipment rental, paying the staff, and anything else I'm not thinking of (costs may vary). At the end it sounds like they won't be able to afford to run the con even if they sell out on badges. Anyone else care to explain how they'll be able to afford all of this?

>> No.9908096

>>9905337
>i hear they have over 50k in debt still.
>>9908088
>With 1000 tickets selling for $35 each, the con will make no more than $35000 on sales.

Finances isn't hard; the only thing that makes you go into the red is unexpected expenses, which I cannot imagine that there are a lot of when you run a convention. Does no one on that staff know how to use Excel or something?

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>>9908088

Easy

>> No.9908106

>>9908088
Lol they don't pay panelists, at least

>> No.9908107

>>9908097
The scary thing is I could actually see them doing this.

>> No.9908109

>>9908106
Do they take money off on their badge fees? If so then that means less money for them.

>> No.9908130

>>9908109
>Do they take money off badge fees?
Lol fuck no, the only thing they get back is those damn plushies, thats it. They still have to pay full boat for badges.

>> No.9908131

>>9908109
No, they don't offer anything to panelists. Last I did them they offered leftover merch for x hours of panels.

>> No.9908134

>>9908131
>>9908130
Never mind, I guess that's one less expense on their list. Most cons tend to offer them a discount on their badges at least, silly of me to assume Shuto would do the smart thing and be sensible.

>> No.9908143

I got a voucher for a Shuto Con tshirt for doing 3 hours of panels, hahaha

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Anyone remember when this happened? Is now the right time to mess with them some more? I really feel like it is.

>> No.9908493

>>9907614
She's gone. I don't know about other staff. Nancy is one of my artist friends from cons.

I guess some recent really bad drama went down. I don't know all the details. Nancy resigned from Shuto. She sometimes comments and likes my statuses about how poorly run the con is. Based on that and the cringe post Stephanie posted on her page about them not being friends, I don't think it ended well.

Good for Nancy for leaving. Stephanie lost all my respect this last Shuto.

I am noat

I am not at all happy with this con. I was in "pro row" behind the curtian wall. Pro row was a huge mess this past year. We paid so much only to be hidden. My sales were horrible.

I was walking over to the information booth to see if Nancy could do anything about it and I overheard Stephanie jokingly brush off the complaints.

She blamed them all on one of the other artists. Some girl named Megzy I think.

Stephanie said "She complains about everything."and laughed it off and was really loud about it. It was disgusting and disrespectful. I don't know what Stephanie does for an income, but I do this to help pay for my bills while I'm in school. I need this income and I paid extra to be treated well. She brushed it off like we didn't matter. I don't know who Megzy is. I feel bad for her. Her previous and valid complaints were probably treated like a joke.

Nancy looked really pissed after she left. I was really pissed off, too. I talked to Nancy and she told me she was trying to get it taken down since Thursday set up.

Stephanie came over and talked to my booth helper shortly after that. But what is she going to say?

We only deal with Stephanie to get a table at her con. Now that Shuto is dead. I'm done pretending to be friends with her.

>> No.9908499 [DELETED] 

>>9908493
>Based on that and the cringe post Stephanie posted on her page about them not being friends, I don't think it ended well.

I'm not able to see this post (it must be for friends only?), mind posting it for all to see?

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I feel like I'm insulting Yamcha here.

>> No.9908514

>>9908493
>Based on that and the cringe post Stephanie posted on her page about them not being friends, I don't think it ended well.

Mind sharing that post? It must be for friends only.

>> No.9908560

Those 2018 vip winners were super fucked over. Either use it now or never use it.

>> No.9908902

>>9908514
I've since removed myself from her friend's list. I know I'm not the only one who was friends with her for a booth. Anyone care to provide a screen grab?

>> No.9909026

>>9908493
>I don't know what Stephanie does for an income
As far as I know, it's just this con and her half-assed plushies. Maybe child support, too? I'm not sure if her kid lives with her or not.

>> No.9909043

>>9909026
>I'm not sure if her kid lives with her or not.
I'm told her and Joe share custody.

>> No.9909092

>>9907614
Nancy and Stef actually broke up before the con if I remember right, she unfriended me a long long time ago but I keep working my way back in to that bitter factory

>> No.9909187

>>9906989
Yeah. Shuto lost officer staff. Hard to stick arround when you aren't being heard. You try to make the show better for the attendees and some leadership is just more concerned with themselves and thier own selfish needs.
Some truly fucked up shit happens because pride and narcissism gets in the way.

>> No.9909191

on second thought, I don't think I'll need to send anymore fake emails out, Shuto con is hurting themselves more than anything I could possibly do.

>> No.9909194

>>9909191
Besides, isn't it more meaningful when a con fails entirely through their own hard work and perseverance, and not because of the assistance of others?

>> No.9909197

>>9909194
Yeah but it's also pretty funny, I mean did you see the reaction people had to those emails?

>> No.9909212

>>9909197
I can't believe people took them seriously. I mean they could have been way more damaging if they sounded like an actual email, and weren't blatantly "give us your fucking money you fat weebs". I laughed so hard when I saw them but people were getting actually upset and offended?

>> No.9909215

>>9909212
Yeah it was pretty funny, I just wish I could see how much the staff was freaking out over it. The funny thing is that whenever I tell someone that heard about that prank that it was my doing, they applaud me for doing it. People find it funny that I was making a fool out of the con like that.

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>>9909215
You did make one of the cons supporters cry "real tears" as a result, is that worth anything?

>> No.9909576

>>9909573
She's been pretty vocal about her bad experiences with Shuto security and staff over the last few years, I definitely wouldn't consider her a supporter of the con. I think this was intended as a "crying laughing"/loving the drama post.

>> No.9909690

>>9909576
The tone of the comment sounded more like she was upset about it.

>> No.9909726

>>9909690
Eh, I can't really find a lot of her previous comments but she's a pretty active member of the Shuto Con group. She strikes me as one of the people who wants to love Shuto because she was around when it was good, but when things started getting bad she was not at all shy about voicing it. So probably not a mindless fangirl like some of the people in that group.

>> No.9910125

Stefanie is already deflecting all of this negative attention by shit talking other plush creators for no reason on her personal FB posts. And using her kid to get sympathy. It's entertaining. Wonder if the companies she's shit talking know. Every time she gets into drama (constantly) she tries to shift focus onto anyone or anything else.

>> No.9910132

>>9910125
got any screenshots of these posts? probably a good idea to have them archived before she can delete them.

>> No.9910134
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>>9910125
To be fair, Tasty Peach Studios is run by a manchild. Stefanie and Tasty Peach have been at odds with each other for years, which is not at all surprising given that both her and the guy running it have paper-thin skin and bad tempers; they've both had their fair share of drama in the community, not just at each other. But I'm sick of seeing her post about her kid for attention. Did you see this one? Lol

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>>9910132
I got chu

>> No.9910139

>>9910134
Nope, not visible to (and I assume anyone else not friends with her), most recent thing visible was on June 1st when she updated her profile picture.

>> No.9910145

>>9910134
I wish I could tell you all at what lengths she uses her daughter to gain sympathy.

It's gross.

>> No.9910148

>>9910138
Oh dear, looks like this bitch is already turning her daughter into a mini Stefanie. I should probably go find CPS and have their # ready just in case.

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>>9908514
Got this, too. Sent that shit right to Nancy lol
Now the con is dead in the water-
I am strictly friends on fb with Stef for the popcorn.

>> No.9910157

>>9909215
The candy shit was hilarious. I heard some people at Youma were literally leaving candy at her booth.

>> No.9910159

>>9910134
Donate to her? Bitch get a job.

>> No.9910161

>>9910157
>I heard some people at Youma were literally leaving candy at her booth.
Did they really? I wasn't at Youma this year to see it, but that makes me so happy to hear.

>> No.9910162

>>9910161
Yeah it was fucking hilarious.

>> No.9910164 [DELETED] 

>>9910159
>>9910162
I hope Stefanie didn't shake anyone down for more candy

>> No.9910166

>>9910157
>>9910162
I hope Stefanie didn't shake anyone down for more candy

>> No.9910170

>>9910145

Do tell

>> No.9910177

>>9908493
That's Megzie from Toxic Star Studios she was talking about.
That's fucking shitty. Megzie speaks well of Stef. Wow. What a fake bitch.
If I were closer friends with her I'd let her know.

>> No.9910187

>>9910177
We should let Megzie know, the more people Shuto looses the better.

>> No.9910221

>>9910134

Meh I only know about Stef. I've personally known her for around 8 years? She's always just been a popcorn source for me. She causes all of her own drama. As far as I'm concerned if she's at odds with anyone it's usually because they've figured her manipulative shit out and probably called her out on it. So if anyone here is hated or blocked by her good on you. I may call her out after years of shit just because it feels like it's reaching the end. She's hated on vendors group pages, artist group pages, con organizers group pages, the list goes on. Seriously, who else can she's blame? Who else still supports her? Are all of her FB friends popcorn eaters?

>> No.9910271

>>9910145
No need to, her latest profile picture change is of her with her daughter in her arms. She's really trying to show off the fact that she's a single mom off as much as she can.

>> No.9910282

>>9910271
>She's really trying to show off the fact that she's a single mom off as much as she can.
I feel bad for the child; she has no chance in life.

>> No.9910286

>>9910282
It looks like Stefanie dyed her daughters hair green, I'm slightly concerned for that child's well being.

>> No.9910304

>>9910221

Yeah... shit went south between her and I because I called her out on her shit. She was being a huge hypocrite over some art she posted.

She basically traced it.

She made a huge fuss of it and tried to drag me through the mud for being "mean" to her.

I think she even drew some cringey revenge art about it?

Also, I heard she basically funded Creepy Kawaii's shit with Shuto money. Joe made her stop after they split up. So, her asking for donations is funny as fuck.

Guess she ran out of people to guilt in to funding her shitty projects.

>> No.9910308

>>9910304
Oh god... the guilt posts about her fucking kickstarters

Get some talent you hack

Tears aren't going to sell all your shitty art

>> No.9910310

>>9910187
I can tell you she shit talks every one of her "friends". She dosen't have a nice thing to say about anyone.

>> No.9910313

>>9910310
Who Stefanie or Megzie?

>> No.9910327

>>9910313
Stefanie. I don't know Megzie. But Stefanie says shit about everyone.

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>>9910304
Oh was it this mature and well done piece? Cause I remember this shit popping up after someone dare crit her crap art.

>> No.9910336

>>9910332
Wow no wonder she loves safe spaces so much, no one is allowed to criticize her there.

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>>9910156
Nancy posted this after she blocked Stef. Glad she got out. I feel bad for anyone who has to deal with Stef.

>> No.9910387

OMG you guys are so mean! I've been in a corner crying for the whole day over the hurtful things you guys are saying about me. Please tell me your real names below so I can have you put on the ban list!

>> No.9910477

>>9910387

Sure it's Joe Shall

>> No.9910508

What a train wreck

>> No.9910804

>>9910332
Her art is objectively terrible, tho.

>> No.9910822

>>9910804
As someone who has an art based degree, I can tell you that one of the biggest rules in the field is being able to take criticism from others, and adjust your work to have it be improved upon. You won't get far if you keep on closing your ears whenever someone says anything negative about your work. Her art is often either poorly drawn garbage that has a fuck off message, or she makes plushies that are blatant knock offs of well known characters. She is a disgrace to artists everywhere!

>> No.9910849

>>9910822
Another artist here...

Her art is horrible. And her cringey "Not Okay" pin set capitalizes on the backs of those who actually suffer with depression in a super shitty way. Oh, and some of them- they ones that aren't super ugly- are obviously traced.

>> No.9911033

>>9910822
Yup. You can't be an artist or a con runner if you don't listen.

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OMG you guys are being so mean to Stefanie :P

>> No.9911494

You'd think these threads would take a break after their thing.

I'm really glad they don't.

>> No.9911774

>>9911494
They just announced about 2019 so that's why it's fresh

>> No.9911867

>>9911774

Ohhhhh, right. Thanks anon.

>> No.9912890

Came to 4chan for petty shit. Wasn't disappointed. This is hilarious

>> No.9913083

Considering she was begging for money to go on vacation, I'd say she's learned nothing from the disaster that is Shuto.

>> No.9913092

She claims to be looking for work, but that no one will hire her because her availability is too limited due to her kid/shutocon/begging people to buy her stuffed animals obligations.

>> No.9913244

>>9913092
She can get a job at Meijer...

>> No.9913304

>>9913092
Care to screen shot it in case she tries to delete the post!

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The funeral is being arranged as we speak.

>> No.9913647

>>9913092
I remember that sob post. I'm not friends with her anymore. But I remember seeing it.
She can work while the kid is at school.

>> No.9913765

>>9910308
She's got another shitty kickstarter comming out soon for that ugly hedge hog. The flood of begging continues.

>> No.9913776

geez her begging is worse than my cat when he sees me eating a turkey sandwich.

>> No.9914090

Looks like so far they’ve only sold 112 badges, I wonder if they’ll even pass 200?

>> No.9914093

>>9914090

I give it until the fall when the desperation really kicks in and Stef offers single day passes.

>> No.9914472

>>9914093
She'll have to do something. 200 attendees aren't going to pay the rent.

>> No.9914522

112 down, 888 badges to go

>> No.9914556

Holy fuck, it looks like Stefanie is now the only admin for the cons facebook group! I'm guessing Kaitlyn and Lauren will soon be leaving the staff, that or Stefanie is really determined to be in control.

>> No.9914558

>>9914556
I seen that. Not a surprise. She can't listen to nobody.

>> No.9914845

Just wondering, anyone know how old her daughter is?

>> No.9914996

>>9914845

Let's not go this far.

>> No.9915456

>>9914996
no I just wanted to know how old she is on the grounds that stef might be being abusive.

>> No.9915693

>>9914556
They are bleeding staff.

>> No.9915803

>>9905337
So what im hearing is she cant afford to say no to my stupid panel idea. Hmmmm.
>>9906242
She mustve stole that. Thats better than any if her art..ever.
>>9906245
Looks dirty.
>>9907614
In shuto defense its going to be a really small con at a hotel. Dont need a lot of people.
>>9910134
>>9910177
>>9910332
>>9910349
All of these people are awful artist. If its not traced its plagarised. They must have familly money or get disability checks with family help.
>>9915456
Nayrt. Yeah I think jie may have to step in and limit how many cons the daughter can go to. However joe seems like a mooch too.

>> No.9917613

>>9915456

Yeah I know, it just seems like that's a step too far, lolcow or not, none of us know how she's treating her kid. Shit on her con all you want, but don't go after her home life man.

>> No.9917618

>>9917613
Alright forget I asked

>> No.9919155

So apparently there's going to be an announcement about artist alley/dealers later today on that separate FB group. Anyone in that group that could share caps?

Also, how much you guys think they'll charge this year in return for 'reduced rates next year' or some other nonsense?

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>>9919155
>how much you guys think they'll charge this year in return for 'reduced rates next year' or some other nonsense?

An arm and a leg

>> No.9919595

Did the art post actually happen or did it get delayed due to staff vacations

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I gotchu guys

>> No.9919635

>>9919617
Bless.

>50/50 Rule Gone
This is impressive positioning, she's actually anticipating people dropping shuto and is trying to appeal to artists that haven't been allowed to sell there before.
>6 ft tables
That's right stef, squeeze as many people in there as you can, at least it'll look busy!
>75-100
Anyone got a point of reference on this? Not an artist.

>> No.9919666

>>9910134
get this parasite away from my omgcon reeee
in hindsight i think shuto did have a booth set up at omg, i didnt stop by. it was pretty sparse, evillecon's booth pulled most the foot traffic in the vendor hall.

>> No.9919718

If you see Stefanie at any con with a booth, you should probably leave her some candy. It would be fun to see how she reacts to it.

>> No.9919737

>>9919617
Less than 100 is actually not bad, she was smart for once and really toned down her demands.

>> No.9919812

>>9919666
Nah, no shuto booth at omg. I would have made myself talk to them if they were.

>> No.9919997

I did see her at motor city comic con last month, but I didn’t say anything to her. Oddly enough I circled back to that spot less than an hour later and she was gone for some reason. No idea why

>> No.9919999

She dropped 50/50 because her staff practically begged her to see reason.

>> No.9920003

75-100 is too much for such a train wreck.

>> No.9920007

Nope. I did closed con like this before. Artists were just buying from artists. Hard pass.

>> No.9920049

>>9919999
She still has staff?

>> No.9920050

>>9919617
At least she is being honest about attendance and warning people not to travel or invest a lot in it. I can respect that

>> No.9920149

>>9920049
It was a decided last year that the 50/50 rule would be removed.

>> No.9920268

>>9920149
oh so it was back when she had them.

>> No.9920509

Love how they said the announcement would be made later that day and it still hasn’t been made almost 2 days later. Shuto Con, always good on their word

>> No.9921675

Wow fuck this con

>> No.9921960

so basically this con went from shitty to worthless

wow

>> No.9924397

So I was in the area today, and figured I’d take a peek at the hotel. That place is really tiny compared to the Lansing center, there is no way they can run the con with that little space. Also still haven’t seen them post their announcement that they said would be later that day, a week later.

>> No.9925043

>>9924397

When it was random battle whatever they had like

a game room, a panel/concert room, and like, panel room sized board game rooms

its gonna be SMALL

>> No.9925268

>>9925043
They'll have just enough room for those things with Shuto, but just barely.

>> No.9926806

>>9919635
As someone who was an artist at this con at one point, I think we always paid $100 for the table space. That said, we had twice the amount of room.

>> No.9928579

>>9905515
What video? What is this drama?

>> No.9928581

>>9928579
I was kinda hoping for another one like that 2018 trailer. Still hoping he makes on for 2019

>> No.9929251

I will bring popcorn then.

>> No.9929281

For reference, RBC had about 400 paid attendees and the place still felt empty and dead. I think capping the badges at 1000, assuming they sell out, will make the Radisson feel cozy but not packed.

>> No.9929292

>>9919718
I should have done that over the weekend. She was at JAFAX, in a tiny booth looking as grumpy as usual.

>> No.9929677

>>9929292
>She was at JAFAX, in a tiny booth looking as grumpy as usual.
Wow she really needs to lighten up a little. She would always have an angry look whenever I saw her, now I know it's not just me.

>> No.9930138

She posted a giant pity post about how she did poorly at JAFAX. Clearly, it's the con's fault she didnt do well. Not that no one wants to buy shitty art from her grumpy ass. I feel bad for her kid.

>> No.9930140

It's almost as cringey as the post about her recent break up. She basically wants a sugar daddy.

>> No.9930252

>>9930138
>>9930140
Do you got a screenshot to share with the class?

>> No.9930565

>>9930252

Seconding this request.

>> No.9931003

>>9930252
I'm not this guy >>9930138
but I saw the post. Can't screencap because I snuck a look on someone else phone. It was HUGE but the TLDR version is:
First she threw JAFAX under the bus, blaming her placement (she had a PRIME spot) and a "weird vibe" for her poor sales.
Then she whined about how many debts she had b/c of her failed business partnership with her exlover, her divorce, and kicking her ex husband out of Shuto. Then she whined about how little money she has because she can't take a salaray from Shuto and she doesn't have a real job, and how bad her credit is.
Then she brought up starting a gofundme to bail herself out but she seemed to realize it was a stupid idea.
She finished with "what do I do?" wah wah life is crumbling, drama drama.

The best part is when one of her friends drops some "real talk" on her with some advice she really should listen to, and that started a whole thread of friends giving her good advice and her offering up lame excuses why she's not going to listen to them

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Yep, she had a booth in the front row of the dealers room. Right next to the giant wall scroll sales. You couldn't not walk by her.

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>>9931039
Her cringy kickstarter owl was also placed about in other areas of the dealers room

>> No.9931052

>>9931003
Did she seriously blame her poor sales on her placement? She was literally front and center in the dealers room when you walked in.

Fuck this woman. I'm sorry, but there are two very specific reasons why her things aren't selling. The first is it's a bunch of non-specific OC art and, this year, what amounts to fridge art - cute, but not worth the price. (Also, who goes selling their kid's art for profit? The kid might have wanted to sell some, or been convinced to, but to keep noting it as a selling point?) The second and most important is that pretty much everyone and their mom knows at this point what a self-absorbed, disrespectful, blame-everyone-but-herself-for-her-failures person she is. She's ruined her reputation as a professional business person and no one wants to support someone that blames not only the venue but her potential buyers for ~bad vibes~. If she's not going to listen to anyone, especially her friends, then I hope she fails into obscurity and gets her shit together to, at the very least, take care of her kid - or hand her over to someone that will.

>> No.9931083

So let me get this straight, JAFAX bent over backwards to give this bitch a spot that would be impossible for anyone to miss, and she blames them for her poor sales? Talk about rude.

>> No.9931086

>>9931083
To be completely honest she was probably really pissed she was so close to Tasty Peach Studios who she absolutely hates and whose booth was actually pretty populated when I was in the dealer's room. I was browsing Tasty Peach's wigs when she stomped by and dropped the biggest stank face on everyone working or shopping at the booth. If I didn't already know about her it would have turned me off from stopping at her booth because it was so obvious.

>> No.9931096

>>9931086
Wow so even being salty about the success of a fellow artist? Not a very good business practice desu

>> No.9931242

>>9931086
>>9931096
Not defending her at all but Tasty Peach is ran by an actual psycho, so she's not the only one they have problems with.

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>> No.9931787

>>9931242
Yeah, TP is literally the worst. Trevor and Ryan are crazy.

>> No.9931881

>>9931734
She just needs to get a job. If she had a job with steady pay she wouldn't be struggling so much.

I've never seen someone try so hard to make their art business work when their art is beyond mediocre ( at best). She had a prime space at Jafax. She acts like she was stuffed in a corner facing a wall.

I also don't see how she is thousands of dollars in debt solely due to her failed business venture and the divorce.

From what I've read on her and shuto's posts and from what I know of her, looks like it's the loans held over from the con that are messing her up. That and a heavy dose of money mismanagement. She just came back from a vacation. One where she tried to beg for donations twice! Once for the sake of her daughter and again for some BS "customs fees".

I do plenty of business overseas. Custom's fees do not work the way she was trying to sell us.

Her "meager salary", from what Joe has told me, is about 30-40k. Most con chairs don't pull in that much for themselves from one singular show. Take my word for it.

I heard about how she was allegedly assaulted by Joe. She pretty much told her entire staff and has posted eluding to how he "abused" her. I won't say she is just trying to play up her "trauma" to get her base to help her pay for her apartment, but I've also heard it was probably a mutual encounter that she initiated and that they had an on again off again history.

In the comments of the post her friends and fellows in the con business try to give her some solid advice. She gets defensive and upset. I'm too lazy to post screen shots.

She doesn't want help. She doesn't want to change. She just wants her camp to give her money and asspats forever.

>> No.9931921

>>9931734
3rd job? How about getting one job. One real job. I love how she has 2000 excuses as to why she can't work a real job. Newsflash Stef, people who have kids go to work.

>> No.9931960

lurker here coming out of the shadows to state that she hasn't paid her shuto crew entirely yet
so she better stop taking vacations and pay my friends

>> No.9932211

>>9931881
>I heard about how she was allegedly assaulted by Joe.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Stefanie mention back when they were married that Joe got a vasectomy? I know it can be undone, but if he is still sterile, I find it a bit unlikely that he would have any desire to assault or rape her. I'm not saying it's impossible, just a bit unlikely.

>> No.9932278

>>9932211
Fucking retard. A vasectomy has no effect on arousal. Everything functions the same, you can even have an orgasm and cum you just don't release semen.

>> No.9932281

>>9932278
Pretty sure it would lower the persons sex drive, but whatever.

>> No.9932381

>>9932281

Pretty sure you're retarded.

>> No.9932498

>>9932281
That's literally not how it works. Please brush up on your anatomy.

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>>9932281
Jesus Christ are people really this fucking retarded?

>> No.9932686

https://youtu.be/dKACH259BvY
You're welcome.

>> No.9932710

>>9932281
Castration is what you're thinking of. Removing the balls entirely absolutely would reduce sex drive. A vasectomy is like a woman getting her tubes tied, she still has her period and gets horny and everything, just no egg.

>> No.9932734

>>9931960
Really?!

>> No.9933784

>>9931734
What a dumpster fire

>> No.9933790

>>9931242
>>9931787
Story time, daddy.

>> No.9934101

>>9931881
>>I heard about how she was allegedly assaulted by Joe
Wait, is that actually what she’s alleging?
At one point she alluded to being assaulted and when somebody referred to the alleged attacker as “he” she corrected them and said “I didn’t say it was a guy”. I thought it was Nancy she was trying to accuse-but-not-accuse

>> No.9934636

>>9934101
After Joe stepped down the whole staff was told Joe allegedly assaulted her. She then told the rest of the staff later during another meeting.

>> No.9934643

>>9934636
Yeah, I heard from former staff that it happened sometime before Youma and she explicitly said her exhusband raped her. That's why he stepped down.Even went to the cops about it from what I heard.

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9934645

Get a job you fucking loser

>> No.9934664

>>9934645
Wait, they WEREN'T that price originally?? How much was she overcharging for this cheap, slave-labored garbage? Why would anyone pay $20 for an OC plushie when they can buy a specific character for less?

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9935574

Aw, she thinks she's still got control.

>> No.9935772

>>9931052
who are all you JAFAX cgl-ers? lets be friends please!

>> No.9935818

>>9934645
Yikes.

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9935823

She's getting desperate.

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9935826

I wonder what kind of staff they're going to have. Crew has not been paid yet.

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9936013

rofl the fuck? what did i miss?

>> No.9936028

>>9935772
join the great lakes lolita group on fb

>> No.9936053

>>9909726
Hey I'm the person that posted that comment, I was laughing because I hate Shuto lol. I've been bashing Stefanie since the "dance groups can't dance without my permission" bullshit. I've been going to Shuto since 2015? and it's always been a shitshow.
So no I'm not a supporter and also I'd love to see the con crash and burn simply because Stefanie is such a nasty person and deserves karma to kick her in the ass.

>> No.9936071

>>9936013
Surprisingly it wasn't my doing

>>9936053
I'm glad to know my little email prank amused you. If I ever decide to do it again, I'll make sure you receive one of the emails that are allegedly from her.

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9936091

>>9936013
I hope someone has a copy of that livestream or it was recorded. I really want to see what all the fuss is now.

>> No.9936148

Rest in Peace and eternal respect to everyone getting banned from Shutocon FB tonight. We will never forget you.

>> No.9936267

I'm calling it now, the dude that caused tonight's uproar, the cosplayer that made the donations cosplay, and that asshole that hacked the emails are the unholy trinity that will bring doom and destruction to shuto.

>> No.9936276

>>9936071
You da best anon, I'm looking forward to it

>> No.9936540

>>9933790
I need these Tasty Peach deets

>> No.9936570

>>9936540
Make a thread

>> No.9936585

>>9935826
She needs to pay her people.

>> No.9936600

>>9924397
Has anyone been to MeggaXP/Meggacon in Jackson? That's in a tiny and poorly laid out venue every year and somehow stays alive. I think it had similar shitshow of progressively less guests and worse sales for the artists too.

What's with this part of Michigan and badly run cons? There was that disaster of an anime convention somewhere around here last year too, had some friends there that took video of it being a total ghost town.

>> No.9936609

>>9936053
My bad Abbie! I could have sworn I'd seen your name floating around in the group since its better years as part of the "remembers when Shuto was still good" club. Banning dance groups and all the stuff that happened with security that year really marked the beginning of the con's downswing. Anyway my point with my comment is that it was pretty clear in context you weren't crying in support of Shuto. xD

>>9936600
GoDaikoCon, I think? Started out of spite from some dude who got kicked out of Youmacon and decided to make his own bigger, better convention and has failed more miserably each year. Dokidokon was another really small one last year that was charming but certainly had its failures. Michigan is getting pretty bad with everyone wanting to start their own shitty small con instead of teaming up and combining resources to make a few good ones.

>>9936540
>>9933790
Sorry! I was gone for the weekend. Here's some stuff that has happened with Tasty Peach.

https://imgur.com/a/UGc3N - This was a year ago, when they released some sort of marshmallow themed cat. Someone pointed out politely that maybe, possibly, there was a small chance the name they chose could come off as racist if someone thought it was making fun of a Japanese accent. It escalated from there.

https://i.imgur.com/bw1JmOK.jpg - They really don't like it if you leave them bad reviews.

http://miss-aila.tumblr.com/post/174620357653/when-your-ex-employer-comes-for-you-on-glassdoor - They ESPECIALLY don't like it if their prior employees leave them bad reviews.

That's all I personally have heard about, but from the way some of my friends who have been involved or worked for them act when their name is brought up, I'm sure this is just the tip of the iceberg.

>> No.9936675

>>9936609
Hoooooly shit.

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9936856

Looks like Stefanie is gonna finally answer some questions. What questions do you guys wanna ask her?

>> No.9936910

>>9936856
*cracks wrist*
Will there be a ballpit?

Why are you the only staff listed on the site, and the only admin for this group?

How bad does the con have to get before you decide to close it?

How much debt are you currently in?

Do you still believe in the safe space idea despite it being mocked by countless shows such as South Park?

Since you’re so open about who’s been banned, can you provide a full list of everyone that’s on your ban list?

Have you considered selling the con to someone else? If so, how much would you want for it?

How do you expect to run the con in such a small space like the raddison?

Why weren’t you able to get the Lansing center this year?

Is it true that the staff hasn’t been paid yet?

If they haven’t been paid yet, is that the reason they left?

Why are you so bad at taking a joke?

Do you even have a normal 9-5 job?

Why should we feel bad for you when you’ve been so nasty to so many people?

Would you rather have Shuto Con be thought of as an aquaman or a yamcha?

That’s all for now

>> No.9936930

>>9936609
Thanks for the deets. I really wish these small businesses would study how big businesses run their social media. Not all of them are great, but for the most part, you don't see them running off at the mouth over trivial shit. I know you're used to dealing with weebs and conkids, but learn some professionalism.

>> No.9937138

>>9936910
I can answer some of those....

Why are you the only staff listed on the site, and the only admin for this group?

Because Nancy, Raeleen, Kaitlyn, and Lauren resigned.

How much debt are you currently in?

Shuto's at least 40k in debt. She paid off the LC debts in loans. Loans which have not been paid off.


Have you considered selling the con to someone else? If so, how much would you want for it?

She prob would. No one would touch it.

How do you expect to run the con in such a small space like the raddison?

She has to otherwise she faces getting fined by the Raddison.

Why weren’t you able to get the Lansing center this year?

They still owe the LC for 2018. They chose not to pay them.

Is it true that the staff hasn’t been paid yet?

Yes. There are crew still waiting.

If they haven’t been paid yet, is that the reason they left?

The 6 or so officers that left, left because they were done with Stef's poor money management and lack of business sense.

Why are you so bad at taking a joke?

She's a narcissist who puts herself on a pedestal above all others and above consequence.

Do you even have a normal 9-5 job?

Nope. She spends most of her day browsing facebook, playing video games, and sketching shitty art.

Why should we feel bad for you when you’ve been so nasty to so many people?

You shouldn't. She did all of this to herself.

>> No.9937233

>>9936609
Holy hell I wish this stuff was more well known

>> No.9937250

Taking bets if Stef mentions 4chan multiple times during the Livestream tonight or not

>> No.9937266

>>9937250
I'm betting yes, and she will say how mean we are for constantly talking trash about her.

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>> No.9937357

>>9937354
I am totally gonna keep score

>> No.9937363

>>9937354
I do appreciate being one of the options here.

>> No.9937369

>>9937363

Couldn't make the card without paying respect to the man that provoked this State of the Shito Address.

>> No.9937375

>>9937369
As a way of thanks, if you guys get Stefanie to bring it up 3 or more times, I'll pull another email hack on them. Have at it.

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so far so good!

>> No.9937479

>>9937354

This is gold. Anyone gonna save the stream?

>> No.9937488

>>9937479
I think Facebook has an option to save live streams, or it does it automatically. Either way I'm sure it will be copied somewhere

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9937497

Ugh! So close.

>> No.9937528

Wow, my email hack wasn't mentioned once. What a shame. While this does mean I won't for sure do it again, I still might consider it in the future if I see fit.

>> No.9937535

>>9936609
You're fine! I just wanted to clear up that I'm definitely not a supporter of the con lol, at least not in the sense that I would cry over it and white knight Stefanie. If she could somehow fix the con and make it good again I'd def attend again tho.

>> No.9937539

>>9937528
you're riding this too hard, dude, it was funny for like a day.

>> No.9937552

Time to break down the lies as I watch this garbage.

Raeleen, photography head, left because Stef wasn't listening to us. She wanted to post some crazy shit on the page and acted like a child when we asked her to edit it.

Lauren and Kaitlyn left because they were done being lied to about crew payments.

Nancy left because Stef tried to reason with other staff officers that they should break contracts and not pay Nancy and her assistant due to other business issues with thier former art studio. Among other reasons.

Jeremy left because he asked for a solid plan to help Shuto get out of debt and was never afforded one. His recommendations fell on deaf ears.

They didn't just leave to focus on family. They were treated like shit.

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the face of regret

>> No.9937560

Wow right above the titties

>> No.9937570

https://youtu.be/01j16aRIDJM
Oh boy here we go.

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9937606

This was Stefanie during the live stream in a nutshell

>> No.9937664

Well apparently according to her comment in that group as well there will "probably not be any table-top this year"
Which means no reason for me to go. Which sucks, I loved participating in them huge werewolf games.

>> No.9937689

Calling it now - Shuto decided to switch to an LLC to file bankruptcy in the con's name. That's why she made it clear -she- doesn't owe anyone money, but the con does, thus allowing it to be rolled into Chapter 7 after the next con, or if someone decides to sue for wages/the city comes after her.

Furthermore, if what she said is true, all the money they made last year was technically under non-profit status and, therefore, probably tax-exempt.

There is some shady shit going down and those crocodile tears aren't hiding the calculated answers.

>> No.9937947

So in regards to the gofundme that was made to pay the staff, I think it’s a nice gesture but I also feel like it’s letting Stefanie off the hook too easily. With that in mind, I think the bitch should offer prostitution to make that money to pay her staff. I’m sure she can find someone willing to pay her for sex. Stefanie if you’re reading this (I know you will eventually), you should seriously consider the idea.

>> No.9938176

People are so naive. Stef cries wolf all the time to manipulate people. Don't fall for her shit. She gives no fucks about anyone but herself.

>> No.9938182

>>9937354

Someone in a certain FB group asked what "We Don't Need LCC" meant

It was for any time she suggested that they could find another venue than the Lansing Convention Center

>> No.9938189

that live stream was cringey af

>> No.9938601 [DELETED] 

>>9937947
Hi Mitchell. How's your Youmacon ban for being a con creep?

>> No.9938890

>>9938601
Hahaha! Damn! Called out!

Stef is a horrible human and should pay her fucking staff.
But Mitchell is pretty fucking gross. Wouldn't be surprised if that email shit was him.

>> No.9938917

Would people have any interest in another con around the same time, in around the same area? Because I would be willing to organize it but Im just getting feelers out right now. I have experience in big events and a background in business.

>> No.9938943

>>9938917
Hells yah

>> No.9938986

>>9938917

Honestly? Nah. I've got Ohayo at the beginning of the year, and then Colossal, Jafax, Matsuri, and then Youma at the end.

If Shuto dies those people will just filter out to new existing (better) cons. Michigan is super over saturated.

If you wanted to take point on a community event like weeabeach party I'd say do it up. We need more non-con events, and its a shit load less work for you.

>> No.9939052

>>9938917
Michigan doesn’t need more cons. What were lacking in is cons that pull in relevant industry guests , exciting new programming/features/attractions and better organization of the cons we already have. Watering down the pool even more with another nothing-con is pretty much the opposite of what we need

>> No.9939055

>>9938601
Who the fuck are you and what was the point of that comment?

>> No.9939433

Im with the person thinking shuto will go back to a llc then go bankrupt. Also betting that she's going to list all her personal expenses (such as the vacation) as part of of the con along with anything else. I also wonder how much she pocketed from from the whole non profit thing. She herself will probably end up being bankrupt unless she has some sort if hidden income (investments, child support/bridge card, cam girl) doubt she can support her self

>> No.9939746

>>9939433
Supposedly she personally filed for bankruptcy in January after her divorce, (or sometime around there). This also raises the question - if she declared bankruptcy - chapter 8 at least - all of her loans would have been rolled into it and voided, (unless they were federal, which I doubt), so unless she racked up loans in Shutocon's name, where exactly are these debts coming from? I'm not even going to get into the i9 situation.

>> No.9940157

>>9939746
Where did you hear that? I know for a fact that’s not true. She filed for bankruptcy like 10 years ago

>> No.9940173

So I decided to offer to buy the con from her, and pay off all the debts from it, and not only did she refuse, she said she wouldn’t accept my money if she was homeless on the streets. Shows what kind of business person she is.

>> No.9940250

Guys stop calling her by her 10 minute dead name - it's Seth...jfc cis people.. Oh wait just kidding it's Stefanie again.

>> No.9940261

>>9940157
Oh, it was that long ago? My bad.

...But she would then qualify for reapplying so I'm not sure why she hasn't if she's as deep in the hole as she says?

>> No.9940272

>>9940250
Can't forget about her special snowflake status

>> No.9940533

I can't believe I'm saying this, but Stefanie (and by extension Shuto Con itself) is starting to remind me of 4kids Entertainment, and that is not a good sign coming from an anime convention. Some similarities include
-silencing and censoring anything deemed offensive
-bad business decisions that result in angering the community
-a high up that is constantly making stupid comments that result in backlash
-involvement in the anime industry
-refusal to listen to people that wish to help

Considering what happened to 4kids, it's not a good sign for Shuto Con

>> No.9941421

>>9938917
im a pretty well known cosplayer/panelist etc etc and I would be interested in running a fair few purely out of spite.

>> No.9941534

>>9938917
I don't know where you'd put it in Lansing if the con center wouldn't want to host it. I think a comic con was held in the Breslin Center in E.L. one or two years ago. But I'm pretty sure you'd have to pay up the ass to host it at the Breslin Center. Dunno about parking either. Ppl might have to park in residentials where the co-ops and frats are.

>> No.9941875

>>9937558
LMAO

>> No.9941910

>>9941534
I think it's held at the Breslin every year, the Capital City Comic Con. I doubt Shuto would be able to move there since there wouldn't be a good way to get from the host hotel to the convention, and like you said, it's probably super expensive to get the Breslin.

>> No.9942411

So has Stefanie posted anything new lately? I find it hard to believe she hasn’t said anything since her stream video

>> No.9942412

>>9942411
She's looking for new moderators for the page, but aside from that, (and continuing to ban people for mentioning anything about the stream negatively), that's pretty much it. But that also confirms that the 'us' is a 'me' at this point, which is no surprise.

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Shuto Con after the live stream!

>> No.9942548

She's at Glass City this week, guess we'll see how that goes.

>> No.9942592

>>9942548
Calling it now, she's gonna have low sales and blame it on something stupid instead of realize it's her own damn fault for being such a nasty person. Also her spot is probably somewhere good like near the front.

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Everyone should help us out and boycott Shito Con! They've done far too much damage at this point, and perhaps if they get low sales for 2019, they'll see that this is a wake up call.

>> No.9942792

Has anyone else noticed that all the posts on Creepy Kawaii have all the laugh reacts invisible? I think Stefanie is actually blocking everyone that dares to give a laugh reaction to her posts. Feel free to try it out and see what happens.

>> No.9942796

>>9942792
Holy shit that's quite an observation

>> No.9943087

>>9940261
Pretty sure a bankruptcy judge would make her liquidate Shuto

>> No.9943135

>>9942696
Pretty sure the wake up call already happened after losing 1k attendees last year and the hole they're in now.
I'm not a fan of stef or her decisions that got her in this situation but I don't want Shuto to go away. Lansing is an armpit and it needed something cool like Shuto. Granted, the con hasn't been good for like 5 years, but it if it ever becomes what it once was, I'm all for it.

>> No.9943152

>>9943135
Didn't seem to be. If it was, she wouldn't be making stupid calls afterwards.

>> No.9943167

>>9943152
Even if that's true, the "get-a-life" alarm is deafening at this point. The memes and videos and stuff were funny at first but now it's like, if you don't like shuto, don't go and give it a rest.

>> No.9943223

The piñata's out of candy, children. Beating on an empty piñata won't create more candy. "Boycott" or take her to court if you want, but small claims usually isn't worth it.

>> No.9944171

Hey obvious stefanie posts ^^^^

>> No.9944358
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9944358

apparently she said somethng on fb about some guy who has been banned from the con for sexual harassment was buying the convention from her or stating "im gonna force her to sell the con to me" v.v

>> No.9944360

also like to add that the con isn't actually for sale but thats one of the rumors running about v.v

>> No.9944395

>>9944360
Probably because in her stream she said that if someone wanted to take the burden off her, she'd be open to it.

>> No.9944407

Looks like the facebook group found its 2 moderators. This should be fun.

>> No.9944448

>>9944171
I think there are a decent number of people who are sick of stephanie's shit but still remember when shuto was good and would be happy if that were possible again. Of course, that would take a miracle and she would deserve it if the con went under but what's the point in rooting for it? Then nobody wins.

>> No.9944472

>>9944448
This is exactly how I feel.

I loved Shuto back in the day. But between Joe's gross behavior (thank god he's not part of it anymore) and Stef's shitty "it's all about ME" attitude, things have sucked. BIG TIME.

The old officer staff are good people. They are/were just working under a shitty boss/bosses.

The crew deserves to be paid. They were promised payment and Shuto should pay them. Not a go fund me.

Stef needs to step down. She is legitimately mad with power to the point that she'll go to other cons and tell the staff how to run things. She's not nor has she ever been leadership material.

Shuto, as much as it kills me to say this, needs to die so something better can grow in it's place.

>> No.9944476

>>9944472
If I'm being honest, the con went downhill as soon as Stefanie took over back in 2013. The safe space policies were just the first sign of things to come, and it just kept getting worse and worse.

I honestly believe that Shuto Con can be fixed, but only if Stefanie isn't part of it.

>> No.9944546

>>9944476
Lol Stef never took over she started the dang thing

>> No.9944644

>>9944546
She said in the livestream that she’s been in charge for 7 years, so unless I’m mistaken, the first 2 years were someone else

>> No.9944782

>>9944644
Nope she and Joe started it together.

>> No.9944804

>>9944644

Shuto has also been around for 7 years

>> No.9945166

Oops, I must have been mistaken, sorry about that. None the less, the con went downhill back when Stefanie decided to make the con a safe space, that’s when I noticed the decline in quality anyway.

>> No.9945181

>>9945166
the safe space policy had no effect except to give people something to make fun of. The thing that went into effect at the same time that actually started causing problems was when they closed off the entire con center with badge checks. There were a lot of problems with the security people they were using to enforce it, people were upset because they couldn't hang out in the con center without a badge, and crowding when the attendance was at its peak meant they were trying to crack down on people gathering/sitting/dancing etc in the halls which caused more complaints.

>> No.9945357

So did anyone see if Stef was getting sales last weekend at glass city con?

>> No.9945948

>>9932686
What's up with this person seems like a cow. I. Know they want us to laugh at Stephanie but they seem on her level.
>>9937552
Are we sure they didn't leave cause they couldn't skim large payments. Let's get real all of executive staff was paid too much. That's the problem. You all tried to live off shuto.
>>9943223
If they haven't been paid then they should sue. I think Lansing has discount peoples mediators/judges. Them suing her wont ruin the con.
>>9944472
I hate this line of thinking. If someone can host a better con then do it. I think of shuto as a little friend/safespace con. Another con could easily happen and not take away from shuto.

>> No.9945968

>>9945948
From what I know of the officer staff, they only made about 500 for the year and all of them have day jobs.

The other staff make min wage capped at 40 hrs.

Steph is the one who actually tries to live off the con. 20-40k from what I heard.

>> No.9946155

>>9944358
"if someone came today and offered to take over the con and to take on all the debts themselves and run the con better than I can, I would take it as long as all the attendees, that’s something that the attendees wanted." Stefanie Black claiming one thing, but doing something else.

>> No.9946172

>>9946155
The guy in question is permanent banned from Youmacon as well as several others for stalking and harassing women. He's also an idiot and absolutely does not have the money to do it, let alone the ability to run a con. I'd 1000x rather go to a con run by Stef Shall than this guy

>> No.9946177

I think Stef’s mental state (and financial state, ofc) would actually get better if she got a real job (even a part-time one). She spends so much time sitting at home stewing in depression and drama. I think she’d be more level-headed if she got out of the house and actually did something in the REAL world (going to cons doesn’t count).

She has the mental state of a 18-20 y/o NEET. Or a retired senior citizen.

>> No.9946517

>>9946172
shows what you know

>> No.9946520

>>9946172
I 1000% bet he's the guy behind the emails.

>> No.9946535

>>9946520
That would make him seem cooler

>> No.9946622

>>9946520
So you think an idiot was smart enough to hack their emails? Yeah sure

>> No.9946830

>>9946520
No, it's a different guy. This is the guy going around saying he can buy shutocon. He's also probably behind a lot of the more cringe posts in this thread like the "Stef should try prostitution" etc. conventionhorrorstories.tumblr.com/post/118287360300/

>> No.9946922

>>9946517
If you know better, feel free to tell us.

>> No.9946974

>>9946922
Very well I'll humor you. The Youmacon situation is much more complicated than it being a simple "permanent ban from Youmacon for stalking and harassing women", and I don't feel like getting into further details on that part. As for the claim that I'm an idiot that doesn't have the money to do it, I'm actually much smarter than you think, even if I don't show it sometimes. My financial situation is actually quite good, and I have more than enough to afford a con if I wanted to, I won't say how much I'm worth, but I can assure you I'm in the upper-middle class range. As for being unable to run a con, I have connections to people that do, and have/had every intention of getting their advice and input on how that works before I actually try running one myself, so while I haven't run one before I am good at figuring out things quickly. With that in mind if all of you would rather stick with Stefanie running the con than give me a chance to give back to the con community that I feel I've wronged, than I won't bother trying to buyout the con or care about what becomes of Shuto Con in the future.

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>>9946974
allow me to present to you this "actually much smarter than you think" guy's website

>> No.9947016

>>9946987
I suppose no publicity is bad publicity, though you could have included the url for people to visit

>> No.9947019

>>9946974
>>9946987
Also, the Youmacon situation is "complicated" in that he's the kind of banned where if he gets spotted at the con, the police will be involved

>> No.9947038

>>9946987
dear god

>> No.9947071

>>9947016
I'm not this guy >>9946987
But I have the URL. And it is HILARIOUS
mitchellkaufmanimagezar.com

>> No.9947221

>>9947071

Ahahaha holy FUCK. Stefanie I might not like you, but I wish you limitless success, just to keep this fucking dickhead out of cons.

>> No.9947298

Holy shit the legend has arrived

Somehow I'm not surprised he didn't "feel like" getting into details about his creepiness and sexual assaults and skipped right to the part about how great he thinks he is.

>>9946987
Is this a fucking joke?

>> No.9947443

>>9946974
Clueless dipshit.

>> No.9947533

I mean.

How could someone with this level of skill and grace possibly not turn Shuto Con into something amazing? I mean look at these web design and graphic skills!

http://mitchellkaufmanimagezar.com/naruto_sushi/index.html

>> No.9947576

I don't understand how Mitchey thinks that he can revoke Shuto being a safe space when he takes over, it'll be the SAFEST space, because no one will go.

>> No.9947595

>>9946974
What a fucking dumbass hahahaha
If there was any doubt about you being a creep and genuinely needing to be kept off convention vicinities at all time, this absolute miscarriage of a post is evidence enough.

>> No.9952856

Any news on payment?

>> No.9953692

>>9947533
kek. This looks exactly like a website I made after taking a web dev class for 2 weeks

>> No.9956387

Still no payment

>> No.9956392
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Oh hey nice trace

>> No.9956428

>>9956392
It's gratifying to know that she is still an unoriginal hack.

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No game room this year.

>> No.9957456

>>9957354
Well yeah, Tokyo attack wouldnt be caught dead with her con at this point.

>> No.9957708

>>9957354
According to her post tabletop gaming is up on the 11th floor in a suite. Sounds like no video gaming though.

>> No.9957989

>>9957708

That's cool they found a way to make tabletop work. A suite is probably ill-suited to the unwashed weebs playing their 15th game of werewolf that day, but I'm glad it's there.

>> No.9958489

>>9956392
I... don't see the trace? I mean it looks very similar but

>> No.9958625

>>9958489
Flip the image. Also, the design itself is a watered down version of her ex's art.

>> No.9959187

>>9956392
ok this is making me crazy

why do the two seams of the shirt just meet in the center like it zips together the eyelet needs to rest over the button to like... BUTTON

whats more look down towards the bottom of the shirt and it looks like the button side is resting on top of the eyelet side

im not going to dog on the quality of the art, talking shit, crit, etc

but thats NOT HOW A BUTTON DOWN SHIRT WORKS

>> No.9960493

>>9959187
She's a hack

>> No.9962741

Hmmm. So that explains why a con started this year in Kalamazoo without worrying about competition

Shuto is where the teen webs who were too poor and/or underage for YoumaCon went desu.

>> No.9962749

>>9962741
https://www.dokidokon.org

As an unfortunate native of the 269 area Kalamazoo is much less of a shithole compared to Lansing nowadays.

>> No.9962808

>>9962749
Ugh. Isn't that a ryan kopf con? That jackass makes Stephanie look like a saint