/ouG/ - Boystyle General: Fullmetal Edition

[Anonymous No.9891945]

Old thread hit bump limit >>9715254

This thread is for ouji and aristocrat (aka "boystyle") discussion. "Boystyle" is shorthand for "boystyle lolita" and refers to the masculine counterparts of lolita and, often, aristocrat fashions. There is a lot of overlap between these styles, and different people use different terms to describe them. So, consider this a thread for those whose style is on the right half of Buttcape's Lolita Family Triangle: http://www.kawacura.com/moripress/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/0dmmLH6-350x350.jpg

>Shopping spreadsheet
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1j7sg2_7CvXUeIgZGGSLvJ9lUUuSVXhW8FlWWFwiv1Yk/edit?usp=docslist_api

>Buttcape-sensei's shopping guide (mentions which brands/shops have men's or custom sizes):
https://drive.google.com/open?id=12fA-VA2PkRctKPlYFsT3GnIba-Ytdt-RArDfLw0Bba4

>Blogs for current boystyle releases, news, and info
palaceofprincesupdates.tumblr.com
ouji-armoire.tumblr.com
buttcape[.]blogspot[.]com

Google your questions before asking them here.

Read the whole thread before asking questions here.

OC and selfposts encouraged! Random picspam discouraged.

Discussion: The seasons are changing. What are your wardrobe or coording goals? Do you have more coord options for hot or cold weather?

[Anonymous No.9891949]

it is approaching summer in the Northern Hemisphere, so here are some casual, basic, or breezy coords

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>>9891254
Hey, newfag anon reporting back in after browsing the sites you suggested. I'm thinking I should start with some aristo stuff. What do you think of these?
http://www.fanplusfriend.com/victorian-elegant-gothic-thick-wool-buttons-ornamental-frock-coat-for-man-ankle-length/
http://www.fanplusfriend.com/elegant-gothic-aristocrat-wide-skirt-bottom-slim-waist-long-thick-wool-coat/

[Anonymous No.9892339]

>>9892331
Fellow newfag here. Please, someone, tell me if I'm way off base with what I'm saying.

At 6'3 you probably have enough testo that you won't look good in more crossy styles without it being outright fetishy. Some people are into that, but that's likely not your goal. Aristo would probably be a good call.

I have two concerns with these picks. The first and most pressing is fit. These are cut for women. They both have v-cuts, which is fine, but I would still worry that they, even if tailored, would bulge at the chest or otherwise fit to accommodate breasts. I have no idea what the quality of tailoring, customer service and fabric is. Someone with more experience definitely needs to chime in.

The second is that they're both black. I feel like black is comes off as an edgy copout, and somehow also boring. I am a bit locked into a corner with my current, non-EGL wardrobe by basing it heavily on black. You can obviously make your mind up on your own with this, but definitely plan ahead and consider the whole of the look you're building.

[Anonymous No.9892344]

>>9892339
Black is what I'm going for, I'm a Mana worshipper. I think I could actually do slightly androgynous looks without seeming weird. I have testosterone, sure, but I'm not muscular, and I have a bit of a young face. One of those picks is a little dress-like and I'm sure I could even pull that off, given it fit me properly. I'm not going to rush to get anything until I can know it will fit me properly. I could probably even stand to start jogging again and lose a few pounds before I look at measurements.
Anyway, thank you very much for your thoughtful response.

[Anonymous No.9892351]

>>9892339
Ah yeah, you're right. I don't think boystyle would look good on me. I'll just go back to being an admirer then.

[Anonymous No.9892393]

>>9892331
>>9892339
>>9892351


nayrt. Just jumping in to clarify a few things.

F+F does custom sizing. Just let them know you're a dude and they'll know to cut them for straight chests and not boobs.

Height's not a deterrent, aristo looks good on taller dudes. I'd start worrying about the silhoutte if you're wide. Being tall is good.

Sorry no actual advice on the two coats, I'm a lolita usually. I personally think going with black is a good choice, you can add other colours to make them pop. They don't work well with some particular colours -- "natural" colours like brown, tan, khaki, etc, and darker colours like dark brown or navy usually needs a bit of extra work to make it look good.. idk, half my wardrobe is black, but I guess as a lolita it's a bit different than an ouji?

[Anonymous No.9892470]

>>9892331
those look great. like >>9892393 said, you can ask about making the second one a mens cut. the fuller skirt of the coat is going to feel and look hella awesome while you swish around.

black is a good color to start with and you can wear it a variety of places. most ouji available for bigger people has black colorways anyway. you can dress it up with accessories such as neckwear, corsages, etc., for pops of color. even a different colored blouse makes a big difference from coord to coord

[Anonymous No.9892483]

>>9892339
>At 6'3 you probably have enough testo that you won't look good in more crossy styles without it being outright fetishy.
this is some weird /fit/izen thinking. you know many high fashion models are chosen for being pretty and tall, right? even male models. so this is a strange mental jump to take.

>>9892339
>These are cut for women.
the first one explicitly says it is a mens cut tho

[Anonymous No.9892487]

>>9891986
a couple more warm-weather outfits posted to Instagram in the last couple days.

[Anonymous No.9892489]

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>>9892393
Ah, I went off it being in the womens category. I guess I myself need to take a look through the womens section, haha.

He is, statistically, either white or black at 6'3. I rarely see femininity done well, and when it is, it's often an asian doing it. Some people love seeing masculine men in femmy clothing perhaps because of the contrast, but none the less, that contrast is there and most people think it is strange, hence the comment about it being fetishy. There's no judgement there, just a statement that "this is how it is percieved".

He's asking how to play his cards, and I'm making reasonable assumptions about what cards he has been dealt and giving advice from there. Maybe he's ahead of the bell curve though, you're not wrong. In the end, he's the one who decides what to do.

>>9892393
Yes, aristo will look good on tall men. Coats tend to require it, speaking in terms of general fashion. I'm talking about specifically femmy styled coords.

Women have a fair bit more freedom with colors, that's why black can feel like it boxes you in, that's all. Plus, you still have to match blacks. Nothing sucks more than getting different shades and not being able to combine them.

[Anonymous No.9892537]

>>9892525
any masculine person in Western society will be seen as weird for wearing anything elaborate. it is more difficult for bigger men to pull off frilliness, but remember: the very name of "lolita fashion" is mistaken for fetish, sweet and gothic are often mistaken for being fetishistic no matter who wears it, and so on. i think, as long as you do not live somewhere you are likely be assaulted for dressing strangely, wear what you like.

if you are insecure, take small steps. look into what modern dandies are doing and incorporate that kind of male beauty into your weeb fashion.

also, for the black oujis from last thread, check out Ike Ude'd fashion photography. a lot of awesome looks to use as inspo, just needing some small weebification.

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>>9892537
>Ike Ude'd
*Ude's

[Anonymous No.9892704]

>>9892393
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>>9892537
Alright gulls, I won't give up. I'll make this good. You'll see when it's done. Thank you.

[Anonymous No.9893595]

>>9892704
excellent. i believe in you!

[Anonymous No.9895392]

Ikemen Mode's web shop has been updated to include some main pieces, shirts, and parkas for casual wear.

their sizes and cuts are more masculine-aimed than most brands, and use USAmerican-style measurements

[Anonymous No.9897105]

How did the Paradiso ouji stuff go?

[Anonymous No.9899104]

>>9892331
Daily EGA wearer here, both look good, by personal taste I prefer the second one but contact their customer service to ask about making a men's size version before ordering.
With a coat like this all you need to make a great coord is nice dress shoes and trousers, a basic button up shirt and nice neckwear and accessories, for example a cravat with a brooch and some rings. Style your hair, eventual facial hair nicely and you're done.

[Anonymous No.9899610]

>>9899104
>daily
I want to ask what you work as and how you tone it down for wearing everyday.

[Anonymous No.9899743]

>>9899610
I'm a humanities student, pic related is how I dress on the daily at uni during the warm seasons and so far have only gotten positive response. Simple and sleek EGA is just pretentious poet clothes anyway so not that much of a problem to fit in imo? Several of my wardrobe pieces are vintage/antique and anyone over the age of 60 remembers when breeches were common men's clothing. When I go basic I wear all black otks, black breeches, MmM shirt, MmM tie and a simple vintage waistcoat or a black jumper. I part-time work as a type of controller in the metro, for which I wear black jeans and a MmM cutsew (buttcape fittingly calls this type of styling Elegant Gothic Whatever).

[Anonymous No.9899749]

>>9899743
That's really cute tho. Thank you for sharing, anon, and please keep it up.

[Anonymous No.9901671]

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[Anonymous No.9901691]

>>9901671
those were the judges. here are some coords from the weekend.

[Anonymous No.9901694]

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>>9901694
the ouji coords for Paradiso seem different from the usual. metallics and jewel tones seem to be on trend, and there is stronger Western style influence.

[Anonymous No.9901699]

>>9901696
this is meant to be aristocrat from an indie brand. i don't see it.

[Anonymous No.9901703]

>>9901699
Avalon's fairy coord is closer to the RPG-influenced trends happening in Japan, but the use of color use is strikingly different. i think they won the pageant last year.

[Anonymous No.9901707]

>>9901703
this bat vest by Bizarre Couture is meant to give oujis something printed to wear, which is a good idea, but the fit seems off. does anyone have any experience with this brand?

[Anonymous No.9902507]

>>9899743
A cutsew?

Thanks for giving feedback, I have some flex pieces and more casual stuff for my other fashion interests as well.

>>9901707
THIS is how you do masculine puffy shorts. Give the appearance of having strong thighs. Ugh, finally!

[Anonymous No.9902529]

>>9902507
Really? This dude's legs look SUPER short, not sure that's a good look...although that could be the aforementioned vest coming into play as well.

[Anonymous No.9903823]

>>9902507
Yeah to clarify I meant this type of cutsew: https://lolibrary.org/items/moitie-logo-flocky-print-long-sleeved-cut-and-sewn

[Anonymous No.9904040]

>>9902507
he looks a bit oompa-loompa to me

[Anonymous No.9908332]

>>9901694
This is great. I especially love the red one. What are these?

[Anonymous No.9908347]

I'm looking for boots like these without the stupid grip texture on the bottom.
Bonus if I can get them in a USA Mens size 12 or equivalent.
Does anyone have suggestions? :)

[Anonymous No.9909163]

>>9897105
LovelyLor's Paradiso video covers it well. someone named Skyler won, with a pink coord and some magic rose-petal wooing skills

[Anonymous No.9909167]

>>9908332
i found source on the gold, he credits @bizarre_couture

[Anonymous No.9909169]

>>9909167
Bizarre Couture's designer/maker is >>9901699, by the way

[Anonymous No.9910704]

>>9908347
If you can't find any boots with an untextured sole (which will be unlikely), you could honestly probably sand them down a bit... That's some THICK rubber.

Why do you want a smooth sole? It won't be noticeable when you're wearing them and a textured sole is more stable/safe to walk in.

[Anonymous No.9911229]

>>9910704
Because I've never seen an aristo with soles like that where you can see ridges from the side. It would look ridiculous.

[Anonymous No.9911231]

>>9910704
I don't have a sander so I guess I'm buying different boots.

[Anonymous No.9911280]

New to boystyle but not this board, is there a difference between boystyle on the military-themed side and just wearing military coats/breeches? I pretty much exclusively wear military style clothing from the 17th century era to around WW1, does that count? If not, what would I have to do to make it count?

[Anonymous No.9911482]

>>9911280
1. make it fit Japanese street fashion aesthetic.

2. make it follow lolita+ouji rules concerning color coordination, hair and facial presentation, etc.

i will post some military coords that fall within ouji in my estimation. it depends if you want to be closer to sweet (cartoonish, playful, youthful, or anime-like), classic (historical-inspired, elegant, close to "normal", or naturalistic), or gothic (edgy, fantastical in an un-cute sense). whatever of the main 3 styles you may be closer to, ouji, like lolita, will still have the fanciful aspect to it that helps separate it from being just vintage or vintage-inspired fashion.

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>>9911484
RIGHT coord on that one, not the one on the left.

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>>9911522
closeup

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>>9911523
goth and punk lets you get super sexy dystopian with it, highly recommended

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>>9911525
sweet and classic can be more like anime or visual novel, if you prefer that to looking like an above-average Fetish Night at the Goth Club attendee

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>>9911542
Yikes, the cheap leather shoulders with epaulets...

[Anonymous No.9914659]

>>9892490
Where can I get me a man like this

[Anonymous No.9914954]

>>9914469
make it better, wear it and share it

[Anonymous No.9915978]

>>9914659
Here, but don't trust you women

[Anonymous No.9916097]

ouji Luka photographed for Tokyo Fashion, many detailed shots at http://tokyofashion.com/harajuku-lolita-steampunk-street-style-alice-and-the-pirates-fashion-parasol/

[Anonymous No.9920030]

>current year
>Moitie revival
>tfw no EGA releases

[Anonymous No.9920115]

>>9911497
Does anyone have a source on this cloak?

[Anonymous No.9920169]

>>9920030
I swear they're going to drop it hours after I spend a shitload of yen on secondhand EGA

[Anonymous No.9920225]

>>9914659
In the dansou instagram tag

[Anonymous No.9920432]

Another newfag here, I really want to do this fashion right. Is it ok to wear an ouji coord with all handmade pieces? Right now I think I'm a little too chubby to fit into brand yet I'd really like to wear this style.

[Anonymous No.9920436]

>>9920169
what's the problem with that? you can get way more 2nd hand ega stuff for the price of one new thing lol

[Anonymous No.9920583]

>>9920436
The problem is that then I wont afford the new release until it's sold out and then I have to wait 798557 years until it shows up in men's size secondhand for 2000 yen cheaper than retail

>>9920432
Make sure that you can tailor it to sit right on your body and that you choose quality materials. Use a ton of references for the look you want to go for and start with something easy, then work yourself up. Good fitting and nice materials usually covers up B-rated sewing. Look around IG for people with handmade pieces as inspiration

[Anonymous No.9921207]

Are there any good black male oujis or aristos out there? My friend wants to get into ouji but idk where to start beyond looking up coords that would look best with his skin tone. He's a skinny dorky weeb boy who (bless his heart) wants something "steampunky" or like something from bloodborne. Any help would be greatly appreciated since I'm just versed in lolita

[Anonymous No.9922028]

>>9921207
check out Ike Ude's work, especially his Sartorial Anarchy series. >>9892537 is one example, and a couple more were posted to the Macarouji thread. i do not know how dark your bf is, but Ude's use of makeup and color in his expression of historic-inspired dandyesque looks may be cool to browse.

if he is too big for brand, Fan+Friend should have a lot of things to his taste. for the Steampunk/Bloodborne look, within the scope of brand, look more to brands like Ozz Oneste, h. Naoto, and other punkish brands as opposed to the usual lolita+ouji ones (AatP, Miho Matsuda, etc.). Atelier Boz may also have some good pieces, and alice auaa's mens stuff runs larger than most other Japanese brands while having that sort of elegant disaster Bloodborne aesthetic to it at times. i cannot think of any Taoabo brand that could have that look.

here is an Ozz On ouji coord, to give you an idea. they have a very RPG flavor to their idea of ouji and use more daily-wear fabrics.

[Anonymous No.9922030]

>>9922028
a darker Ozz look.

[Anonymous No.9922033]

>>9922030
h. Naoto

look for the Steam, Blood, and Seven/SDS lines especially. they are always releasing new stuff and if you can nab one of their "dragon leather" items before they sell out, you can build a coord around it and look badass

[Anonymous No.9922036]

>>9922033
h. Naoto's Summer 2018 Italian Pirates stuff may be good for him, the model here is 176cm

[Anonymous No.9922039]

>>9922036
alice auaa example

[Anonymous No.9922043]

>>9922039
their blouses are expensive but much larger than mens sizes of other Japanese brands.

[Anonymous No.9922044]

>>9922043
here is a black ouji whose source i forgot

[Anonymous No.9922045]

>>9922044
makeup is important. i dislike this man's wig choice but his makeup looks good

[Anonymous No.9922047]

>>9922045
back to brands, i think the cape here is Boz. i am unsure. but Boz, or F+F knockoffs of Boz, make good bases for a coord, and you could use more overtly fantasy/steampunk items to accent it once you have the nice solid Boz base.

[Anonymous No.9922050]

>>9922047
another Ozz coord

[Anonymous No.9922078]

>>9922050
finally, pardon the alien purikura, but Alice and the Pirates may have some pieces he would like, especially hats and coats, for that Bloodborne aesthetic.

[Anonymous No.9924142]

>>9914954
No. I don't mean to be mean, they simply don't look great to me and possibly others. Maybe the shot is bad, but I don't understand mixing the materials like that.I would have had no issue if the shoulders had the same material as the rest of it. There's no improvement in fashion (no matter the style) without critique. I know it can be very bitter and I'm sorry, but you're putting it out there for a reason- to show off or to improve. Otherwise you would be using other channels.

>>9921207
Consider getting him hooked up with a basic fit and steer him away from "steampunk" accessories. As someone with just a basic understanding of mechanical engineering, the designs trigger me. Steer him more towards that palette (browns, beige and reds?) and see if he gets an idea for quality. A lot of "steampunk" marketed stuff seems very cheap. Steer him away from leather as well, so he doesn't end up with cheap genuine. A boring base is easier to build from compared to replacing cheaper pieces.

[Anonymous No.9924676]

Requesting inspo for casual/daily coords? I love OTT but it's a pain to wear.

[Anonymous No.9925068]

>>9924676
I was coming here to try and talk about this exact thing.
I've been looking to Közi for a lot of casual inspo.

[Anonymous No.9925071]

>>9925068
One more Közi look for now.

[Anonymous No.9925073]

>>9925071
I have a thing for just really subdued non-OTT stuff that still has interesting cuts and shapes to it. You can evoke elegant aristocratic looks with just mostly normal clothes if you know what to do.

[Anonymous No.9925132]

>>9925073
Thanks anon!

[Anonymous No.9925157]

>>9925132
I'm glad you like it.

[Anonymous No.9925189]

What exactly makes ouji/boystyle distinct from western neovictorian type of fashion? I'm still having trouble figuring out what makes an outfit jfash or not.

[Anonymous No.9925323]

>>9925189
In my opinion? Japanese sensibilities and androgyny. I'm still new though.

[Anonymous No.9925767]

>>9925323
But isn't Victorian fashion androgynous as well? With guys wearing heels and ruffles, and such. What exactly would define Japanese aesthetics?

[Anonymous No.9925776]

>>9925767
Just start looking at Japanese brands and you will see the difference of something designed with Japanese eyes. You kind of have to get obsessive with it to really feel it. There's a hard line between Japanese and non-Japanese style, but it's still so hard to describe.

[Anonymous No.9925785]

>>9925767
Japanese aesthetics are still a lot more androgynous than regular Victorian fashion

[Anonymous No.9926204]

>>9925776
>You kind of have to get obsessive with it to really feel it. There's a hard line between Japanese and non-Japanese style, but it's still so hard to describe.
this. i have tried, just about every thread i think, to describe it.

your best bet is to follow Japanese oujis and brands.

[Anonymous No.9926207]

>>9924676
the thread began with some, how were they? what substyle(s) are you into?

[Anonymous No.9926208]

>>9922078
Omg thank you so much! He's just a friend of my girlfriends but I would love to dress up with him sometimes! This is perfect!!

[Anonymous No.9926212]

>>9926208
you are welcome, gull

[Anonymous No.9926577]

Tokyo Rebel has oujiable items on clearance, including shoes/boots and blouses: https://www.tokyorebel.com/collections/sale

[Anonymous No.9927433]

>>9924142
>No. I don't mean to be mean, they simply don't look great to me and possibly others. Maybe the shot is bad, but I don't understand mixing the materials like that.I would have had no issue if the shoulders had the same material as the rest of it. There's no improvement in fashion (no matter the style) without critique. I know it can be very bitter and I'm sorry, but you're putting it out there for a reason- to show off or to improve. Otherwise you would be using other channels.
hello anon, it has been several days and i am still not sure what you mean by this.

[Anonymous No.9931191]

is it ok to show nips in ouji?

[Anonymous No.9931196]

>>9931191
Needs electrical tape X nipple stickers

[Anonymous No.9933430]

>>9914659
That is a lady fashion blogger

[Anonymous No.9933970]

Still wondering what you guys have against lolito

[Anonymous No.9934261]

>>9931191
no

>>9931196
this is a good idea

>>9933970
"still"? never heard of this person/thing

[Anonymous No.9934262]

>>9931191
if you want to do ero ouji, a low neckline is fine, but showing nipples is not. unless you are on your own, or at an event like pic related (Corset Night) where it is not EGL focused, then do what thou wilt. for a meetup or lolita event, pls do not.

[Anonymous No.9934264]

>>9933970
Are you this anon >>9931851? Ouji isn't a substyle of lolita, it's just associated with lolita due to having similar aesthetics except masculine.

[Anonymous No.9934266]

>>9934262
also, gothic or vkei takes on ouji can make for a good "ero ouji" coord for events with lolita/ouji dresscode. pic related can be acceptable for such a meetup while >>9934262 is not gonna work

[Anonymous No.9934269]

>>9934266
this is an even better example, because it is more solidly in line with ouji aesthetic. but the sheer blouse, unbuttoned top, and tousled hair help give enough of an ero look without being overly fetish-like.

[Anonymous No.9937900]

anything like this?
something militaristic that also is like that aristocrat style

[Anonymous No.9937978]

>>9937900
Alice and the Pirates does coats like this often

[Anonymous No.9937988]

>>9937900
This is essentially Exentrique's style

[Anonymous No.9940895]

Cannot for the life of me figure out how to filter this shop to stuff that is offered in mens sizes.

https://shop35513190.taobao.com

Additionally, if I go for something with shorts I either need tights or get rid of my leg hair, right? Showing leg hair is a big no-no, right? Not sure if it's just one of my personal hangups.

[Anonymous No.9941047]

>>9940895
Well you're usually supposed to wear some kind of legwear, be it tights or socks is a personal taste. Imo you should only remove leghair if you feel like it's needed. I personally go socks only, and I don't care about my leghair showing in the 3 centimeters between my socks and pants, since I have a beard it would probably look off if I did remove it lol

[Anonymous No.9944550]

>>9940895
>>9941047
i agree that the choice to shave is your own. be neat and well-composed, whatever grooming habits you have.

about the shop, have you tried contacting a shopping service for help?

[Anonymous No.9944609]

awesome, i always wanted to do a skunk coord. thanks for respecting my fursona, AatP

[Anonymous No.9944741]

>>9944609
Anon my sides

[Anonymous No.9945797]

>>9944550
A shopping service as in a proxy? I am used to ordering via Superbuy for other purposes. I could find some other services, but maybe you have suggestions for customer-oriented ones?

[Anonymous No.9948670]

>>9940895
To answer my own question, there's a section on the left that has "mens/neutral" clothes. Not sure how I missed it, considering I translated the whole page at least once.

[Anonymous No.9949032]

>>9945797
i do not, sorry! i just know people have spoken with their shopping services when they have special requests. but i am glad you found what you needed

>Caturday ouji unrelated

[Anonymous No.9949292]

ok gulls, i am dumping cat-themed ouji(+ish) coords in >>9949178 now. if you don't think i can fill a thread with nekouji, you would be right, but i can fill maybe half a thread. take a look, nekoujis begin after about 46 posts

[Anonymous No.9950127]

AatP what the fuck

[Anonymous No.9950533]

>>9950127
Elegant gothic clown. Honk honk!

[Anonymous No.9950682]

>>9950533
there is nothing elegant about it

this looks like the designer spent too much time in a Dangerous Nude shop and decided to throw a bunch of perfectly good bows all over the DN tribute to disguise its inspirational origins.

[Anonymous No.9951315]

>>9891954
Is this still being made or up for purchase? So tempted.

[Anonymous No.9953479]

>>9951315
check Miho Matsuda's website, or the KERA shop site

[Anonymous No.9953489]

i was looking at Fidel David clothes and realized except for professional models in photoshoots such as pic related, i have never seen someone wearing Fidel David ouji besides the designer himself. however, many lolitas seem to wear Fidel David's lolita items.

there is no online store for the brand anymore, but they vend at lolita events. what kind of ouji or oujiable items are usually for sale there?

>mini FD dump related

[Anonymous No.9953490]

>>9953489

[Anonymous No.9953494]

>>9953490

[Anonymous No.9953496]

>>9953494

[Anonymous No.9953497]

>>9953496

[Anonymous No.9954323]

Need starter Ouji stuff, nominately kodona pants. Not too formal. Preferably from Europoor or Japan so I don't have to pay jew customs. Not sure if I'm really doing this long term, so preferably stuff on the cheaper side. suggestions?
I remember Bodyline having some stuff but looks like it was all removed. what happened?
and thank you

[Anonymous No.9954415]

>>9954323
Usually I don’t mind helping newbies but you sound like a prick. This isn’t /pol/

[Anonymous No.9954430]

>>9954415
What? What did I say that was /pol/? Christ, I'm sorry anon but I'm confused.

[Anonymous No.9954587]

Vent ahead. I'm tires of guys wanting to get into boystyle but refusing to even look at clothing racks with lolita clothing like they expect a separate rack full of trousers and jackets outside of Boz or KeraShop. I'm vending at a con in the jfash room and the amount of times that I've heard guys say "ah man I thought there would be kodona stuff in here" while standing in the doorway like, come on dude stick in your head and you'll actually see me and my table of secondhand brand and handmade hats

[Anonymous No.9954589]

>>9954323
Kodona doesn't exist. It's boystyle/ouji/aristocrat. Try FanplusFriend and drop the derogatory "jew customs" /pol/ speech if you don't want to be directed there

[Anonymous No.9954590]

>>9954589
I thought that's what the pants I have in mind were called, like pumpkin pants have their own name, but alright.
And sorry, I have a stupid sperg tendency to spew memes without thinking twice. thank you

[Anonymous No.9954849]

>>9954587
>guys are afraid of being judged so I'll judge them for that
lol great way of being inclusive, they made the right decision of staying away

[Anonymous No.9954882]

>>9954849
What

[Anonymous No.9954920]

>>9954587
Do you sell your handmade hats online?

[Anonymous No.9955500]

>>9954882
LOL GREAT WAY OF BEING INCLUSIVE, THEY MADE THE RIGHT DECISION OF STAYING AWAY

[Anonymous No.9955839]

>>9951315
Here you go anon
https://item.mercari.com/jp/m39930770024/

[Anonymous No.9955862]

>>9954587
Did those guys step into the room at all anon based on your description? They might have seen you just not deemed the hats interesting and completely missed the clothing racks. I also vended at a con this weekend (with gothic lolita stuff) and had problems with the goths in the community not stepping into the room since they could only see the pastel tables from the doorway (what they told me). I also had a couple of guys asking me where I buy my men's sized boystyle clothes and they were suprised when I mentioned that it's often through digging through lolita racks at local events since usually men's and women's clothing aren't on the same racks.

[Anonymous No.9956189]

>>9954590
pants for ouji are usually called prince pants, pumpkin pants/shorts, half pants, breeches, wide-leg pants, and there may be a few other terms. often, just pants or shorts

[Anonymous No.9956190]

>>9954323
>kodona
>>9954587
>kodona

when will this fucking die

[Anonymous No.9956223]

>>9956190
when people stop reading olf LJ entries for their first lolita/ouji info.
Gotta admit i find it funny. Lolita's name is an embarrassment. Kodona is just as embarrassing and it feels good in a schadenfreude way.

[Anonymous No.9956502]

>>9956189
Looks like I got a lot on my hands then. thank you anon.

>>9956190
>>9956223
my bad
I didn't find it through lj though, I reversed google image some picture from pinterest and that's the the most prevalent name that showed up

[Anonymous No.9958638]

I didn't buy the coat in time and now it's gone. I'm beating myself up over this so hard, I really wanted this.

[Anonymous No.9958656]

How do you keep up with the new releases?
I'm trying to check the sources listed above, but they aren't really that active (or I'm doing something wrong)
Exspecially for Taobao stuff. It allways seems like I'm a bit to late

[Anonymous No.9958723]

If you hypothetically wanted to do a white x gold coord with Destinee de la Rose but didn't have any shoes to match, which ones would you buy?

[Anonymous No.9958759]

>>9958656
I only follow JP brands, twitter and MmM fb is the way to go. I'd recommend Weibo for the Chinese brands though I now nothing about what tags, brands etc to follow

[Anonymous No.9959730]

>>9958656
follow lolita update groups and endure all the non-ouji to get to the good stuff.

also follow Buttcape who posts alerts for shit like pic related, a Lady Sloth preorder available in multiple sizes, including custom sizing. http://casualsloth.storenvy.com

[Anonymous No.9959960]

I made this bingo to roast myself
feel free to improve, I ran out of ideas about 15 squares in.

[Anonymous No.9960042]

>>9958723
>shoes have to match main piece
thats a very lolita thought, just wear black boots if you have to

[Anonymous No.9960058]

>>9960042
Of course I know I could coord it with black shoes, but I wanted to use just white and gold for the color scheme, and I already have the rest of the coord planned. Ah well, thanks anyway.

[Anonymous No.9960072]

I was finally able to buy this salopette but I’m just wondering if I’ll be able to pull it off or not. I’ve only been able to find photographs of two people wearing it, one was boystyle and the other leaned towards casual lolita.

[Anonymous No.9960073]

>>9958723
If you can hunt down the gold AATP Clara Short Boot somewhere I think those would look nice. There's a pair up on LM right now if you're a size M.

[Anonymous No.9960199]

>>9960058
No, what!? Use white dress shoes. Clean white leather. I would almost recommend high shine, just try avoiding looking like a pimp. But black shoes or boots with an otherwise white coord? The other anon didn't give this enough thought.

>>9960073
The gold looks pretty bad compared to the white. They look like the same material as certain hype adidas that poor guys buy to make themselves seem richer than they are, but don't manage to fool anyone with.

[Anonymous No.9960390]

>>9911497
What exactly am i looking for to pull off a look like this? Will shorts from regular stores go well or should I look around for ones specifically marketed for this style?

and that jacket/coat, does it have a specific style name...?

[Anonymous No.9960696]

>>9960073
>>9960199
Thanks for the help. It's somewhat tough to find white dress shoes in women's size, but maybe I can find some for kids that would work. Otherwise I'll keep looking for the white Clara boots.

[Anonymous No.9960723]

>>9960199
I've admittedly never seen the gold in person, that's so disappointing that it looks terrible! I wanted those boots for myself one day, ugh. I love gold shoes when they're done well, but when they look bad, they look REALLY bad.

[Anonymous No.9960728]

>>9960696
Goodness, really? I would have thought that they could be found easily. You might have to look online of course, but they should definitely exist. Fit might be difficult, but I'm sure you're used to poorly fitting shoes. I know I'm willing to suffer (within reason) if I'm dressing up.

>>9960723
Admittedly, neither have I, but a quick look at the images show that the materials really look the same. I guess if you love gold you love gold. It really won't look sophisticated in my eyes. I have no intention of commenting on AATPs quality, only on the color/material. Just to be clear.

[Anonymous No.9960928]

>>9911497
wtc

[Anonymous No.9962038]

>>9891945
>>9905698
Does anyone have a link to the guy's social media? I'd appreciate any other priest-esque coords, bonus points for men or tall women.

[Anonymous No.9963471]

>>9962038
this is a surprisingly difficult request.

[Anonymous No.9964794]

Sheglit has some nice ouji, do they release ouji pants often?

[Anonymous No.9964850]

>>9963471
i need more of whatever this is.

[Anonymous No.9965071]

>>9963471
Yeah with all the nun inspired coords going around you wouldn't think it'd be so rare. Even western goth seems to ignore it for the most part. Still, thanks for trying.

[Anonymous No.9965369]

>>9964794
they do not! those look good.

[Anonymous No.9965372]

>>9965071
Moitie and Boz have released priestly cassocky garments, but i imagine they are more worn on the visual kei side. i will keep a hawkish eye out for any priest coords going forward, for sure.

[Anonymous No.9965450]

>>9963471
>>9965372
Reminds me of classic JRPGs like Dragon Quest.

[Anonymous No.9967419]

Greetings from the visual kei thread. Dropping this look from 怪人二十面奏.

[Anonymous No.9967681]

I’m sure I’m going to sound like newblet, I’m strictly lolita so please bare with me. My fiancé is wanting to start attending tea parties with me (just big ones, like at cons) due to an unfortunate incident that happened, I told him he should dress the part with me and he agreed but I’m honestly at a loss... I really know nothing much about aristo/ouji.

I’m terrified of buying him a nice set if it doesn’t fit and I’m clueless when it comes to sizing for menswear. He’s quite slim and not too tall, average height I guess. Do these run as small as dresses do at times? And what about brands; is it better option to get secondhand brand or go with some indie designers? Thank you so much for any help, I’m sorry once again for being so terribly ignorant!

[Anonymous No.9967700]

>>9967681
What's his weight and height? You can almost guarantee that he needs custom size if he doesn't conform to asian sizing.

[Anonymous No.9967704]

>>9927433
...how? It's pretty straight forward.

[Anonymous No.9969622]

>>9967419
thanks, gull

>>9967704
your comment has little to do with the encouragement to make something better

[Anonymous No.9969624]

Boz's new coat looks fine as fuck

[Anonymous No.9969696]

>>9969622
I'm the original poster. I can't hold someones hand, I can only suggest improvements. What do you want me to say - take a seam ripper to it? Buy *this* piece?

A lot of work goes into composing a coord, I can't just be expected to do that. The boots and the shoulders seem like they were meant to match, maybe even the wraps on the right leg. Do you want me to compose a coord with a different coat, maybe even different pants and at that point, different boots? Again, handholding. Sometimes things don't work out as well as you want to. You can accept it or live in denial. Either way you can still wear it and enjoy wearing it.

Your original comment was bitter, and your current one is too. I've already given you well more respect than you deserve. Posting bad inspo and then defending it is just ridiculous.

[Anonymous No.9971195]

>>9969624
I've never seen a Boz piece that I didn't like. I usually love them, even.

[Anonymous No.9971204]

>>9969696
i am not bitter, just confused. i was encouraging you to do a cool military coord and share it. like the priest inspo, it can be hard to find themed stuff to post because there is a lack of content. i think you took it an odd way, saying "no, this cannot be improved," and sort of addressing me as though i had made the garments and/or the coord myself. now, you are saying my comments had been out of bitterness: this is another example of taking the conversation in an odd direction. my intent was only ever to increase the available content of fashion inspo and encourage you & others to keep making coords and improving your skills and sharing them here. there is an alternate story you have read into my comments which is not present.

>>9971195
their construction & comfort are unmatched in my experience so far

[Anonymous No.9971275]

Atelier Pierrot joins Sheglit in releasing rare ouji goods!

[Anonymous No.9971310]

>>9971195
Do you mean you dislike this one?

[Anonymous No.9972736]

if any oujis can sew, i looked through the major pattern brands at Joann Fabrics and many have decent mens breeches/short pants patterns in their Halloween sections. there are some good 18thC style jacket patterns also. the vests are not very good, too boxy imo.

[Anonymous No.9972940]

>>9971310
Sorry for the confusion, I think it's great. I intended to include it in the catch-all of "never seen a Boz piece I didn't like".

[Anonymous No.9972941]

This guy is next level imo
Might not be to everyone's tastes

[Anonymous No.9973031]

>>9972941
I just wish his and his wife's brand would produce men's clothing that others can buy and not just men's clothing for himself only. I love his designs and a great inspiration to get my lazy ass to sew

[Anonymous No.9973070]

>>9972941
>google search image
>image description is "girl"

[Anonymous No.9973084]

>>9971275
Why are they rare?

[Anonymous No.9973263]

>>9973084
because they usually release dresses, not pants

[Anonymous No.9973265]

>>9973031
same. so frustrating. tired of "brands" that are just for 1 person

>>9973070
google is on crack

[Anonymous No.9974033]

why is this the default ouji pose?

[Anonymous No.9974036]

>>9974033
I don't think leaning against objects is the default, but the hand extended out is princely as fuck.
Though, it is most definitely overdone.

[Anonymous No.9974382]

>>9973265
so um... what brand is it

[Anonymous No.9974529]

This thread reminds me of a cosplay pic I say few years ago. A 11/12 year boy dressed in army suit (half pant though) posed in a bed with a dark smile. Does anybody have that pic, if recognize of course?

>His dress was black (or navy blue), half pant, black socks, a nazi-like police cap, he was alone in the picture all four

[Anonymous No.9974704]

>>9974382
lespiritdelanoblesse. there are spaces and capital letters in there somewhere but i cannot be bothered

>>9974529
what the fuck are you on about? that has nothing to do with ouji. go to a stupid questions thread once you sober up

[Anonymous No.9975679]

>>9974529
>>9974704

Almost like this, but more darker uniform

[Anonymous No.9975824]

>>9975679
that has nothing to do with this thread. get lost.

[Anonymous No.9976550]

>>9974704
>not posting his fancier digs

[Anonymous No.9976552]

>>9976550
>dropping image

[Anonymous No.9976606]

AliceHolic, this is not okay. Do not encourage them.

[Anonymous No.9978432]

you ever want to just recreate a goofy ass makeup look from the olden days

[Anonymous No.9980909]

>>9978432
Would this be understood as ouji anymore?

[Anonymous No.9983432]

>>9980909
what the fuck is that

[Anonymous No.9983528]

>>9983432
red x black punk ouji style from GLB 10

oldschool ouji is a trip

[Anonymous No.9985052]

Anyone going to get Aatp's gabriel re-release? think it's kind of weird the pants have lacing both in back and front but it'd be boring without it I guess

[Anonymous No.9985114]

>>9985052
no, i do not like salopettes. the velveteen looks nice, but the cut is not my taste.

[Anonymous No.9985116]

>>9985052
the lampshade hat kills me. why can't their ouji be more like their lolita?

[Anonymous No.9986721]

>>9980909
i don't see any ouji in there, even if the GLB claims it is ouji style.

[Anonymous No.9987449]

I hope AtPie stays in the ouji business. Their first offerings are basic but I can see them branching out.

[Anonymous No.9987869]

thoughts on this? I kinda like

[Anonymous No.9987870]

>>9987869

[Anonymous No.9988012]

>>9987869
>>9987870
it is ok. has the cheap looking taobao print, but oujis cannot be choosy

[Anonymous No.9988071]

>>9988012
>but oujis cannot be choosy

Very true. Its hard finding stuff I even kinda like in a size that will fit me. Everything is super small. I'm not even fat or anything either. This actually has multiple sizes, sizes that will actually fit.
Its not cheap, but not unusually expensive either. I might get it just because i'm tired of having just a few pieces that don't match too well.

[Anonymous No.9988642]

>>9987869
I’m tempted to get just the vest in black. The rest feels too overdesigned.

[Anonymous No.9989039]

>>9987869
>>9987870
where is this from? can't seem to find it on lolita / chinese lolita updates

[Anonymous No.9989040]

>>9989039
https://www.lolitawardrobe.com/funccnio-winter-rose-military-lolita-ouji-lolita-vest_p4599.html

[Anonymous No.9989137]

>tfw no ouji pal to fix my suspenders

[Anonymous No.9989220]

>>9989137
>tfw no ouji pal to talk about guy things with and judge women with

[Anonymous No.9989832]

>>9989137
>>9989220
>tfw no ouji pal to go to cute places with and take photos

[Anonymous No.9990420]

>>9989832
>tfw your pals wear ouji and you all help each other out with your outfits

[Anonymous No.9990647]

>>9953497
"God damn it Katie, you can't start pulling this shit every time I get your king in check. It isn't cute, knock it off."

[Anonymous No.9991293]

Some good ouji coords in >>9989851 if you are looking for inspo. The focus of the thread is romantic couple photos, and about 40% of the photos include ouji.

[Anonymous No.9991299]

>>9991293
Correction: about 55%

[Anonymous No.9991694]

>>9990420
>tfw your pals wear ouji but won't have fun carrying each other and being cute

[Anonymous No.9991699]

This ouji tweeted this coord with the following description:

>劣化した王子!!
>着てないとだめだな

Google translates "劣化した" as "degraded" or "deteriorated". Does this mean something closer to deconstructed or degenerate?

[Anonymous No.9991862]

Can someone tell me the type of fabric used in these? https://lolibrary.org/items/aatp-oblivion-and-longing-voluminous-pants-draft

I want to make something similar, and choose a good fabric, but cotton/polyeurethane doesn't really narrow it down.

[Anonymous No.9993056]

the white colorway of the magic goat skull release looks great. much better than the red imo

[Anonymous No.9993059]

>>9991699
I think it's more like he's saying that he got rusty (at coordinating) because he hasn't been wearing it.

>>9993056
I like this a lot. I'm glad they put out something white that's not cutesy.

[Anonymous No.9993081]

Deorart has a pinstripe set

get a fedora and some bootleg Ramune and become an O.G. ouji

[Anonymous No.9994258]

this is creative. ouji coord by @girlsick__ on instagram

[Anonymous No.9994276]

>>9994258
>"Ouji"
>Wears dress
No

[Anonymous No.9994858]

>>9994276
i have seen the "short dress + short pants" look in ouji before. what is different in it compared to a long vest, or long blouse?

[Anonymous No.9994928]

>>9994258
>>9994858
It's creative, but I don't get any ouji vibes from it even if she's wearing pants. Top hat and pants don't automatically make the coord.

[Anonymous No.9995706]

when is this Moitie revival going to give us some fucking EGA

[Anonymous No.9996617]

>lolitas get all-over print
>oujis get 2 strips

http://www.babyssb.co.jp/onlinestore/p14vt330/

[Anonymous No.9996620]

>>9996617
>even the pants have just 2 strips

this was made with fucking remnants or what

[Anonymous No.9997216]

>>9995706
Great news everyone, WW staff told the models that the shirt Mana wore in the fashion show will be released!

[Anonymous No.9997340]

>>9997216
acceptable.

[Anonymous No.9997717]

>>9997216
So did moitié on Twitter.

[Anonymous No.9997931]

>>9997717
Double checked, yeah I missed that. Twitter app translates Jp to my language which seldom ends well

[Anonymous No.9999679]

everything wrong with people who still use the word "kodona" in one sentence

[Anonymous No.10000675]

>>9922044
>>9922045
I am desperate for sauce. I was just under the impression that black men can't pull off this fashion, but they look immaculate.

[Anonymous No.10000756]

will be available in black as well

[Anonymous No.10000761]

>>10000675
if reverse image search does not help, neither can i, unfortunately. aggressively following ouji tags on insta may be the only solution

[Anonymous No.10000762]

>>10000675
>>10000761
however, i scrolled up, and it seems the last /ouG/ had posted other black oujis. check the archives!

[Anonymous No.10000768]

>>10000675
do you already follow @n.ouji? he only has 2 posts, but they are both good.

[Anonymous No.10003358]

>>10000756
it is an unusual green. i hope for more jewel tones in tge future.

[Anonymous No.10003847]

Closet Child has Milk Boy pants with an ouji flair, but pic related is claimed to have a 20 inch waist. i think this is an error since the ones in blue are 29 inches and the other pants are 30 inches. this is a bit bigger than many ouji brands so maybe you will find it useful

[Anonymous No.10003850]

>>10000768
Oh my gosh he's adorable, I hope he posts more in the future!

[Anonymous No.10004924]

What are your princely Halloween plans?

axe murderer?

[Anonymous No.10004926]

>>10004924
Freddie Mercury in a race?

[Anonymous No.10004927]

>>10004926
jilted Oscar Wilde lover?

[Anonymous No.10004929]

>>10004927
giant fucking weeaboo?

[Anonymous No.10004931]

>>10004929
Takarazuka Revue auditioneer?

[Anonymous No.10004933]

>>10004931
Robert Smith?

[Anonymous No.10004934]

>>10004933
or maybe some kind of Kylo Ren ripiff OC?

tell me your plans! i have none.

[Anonymous No.10005123]

>>10004934
Anon you are hilarious thank you for the dump. Although in spirit I think I'm a jilted Oscar Wilde lover, I'll be going as Alex from A Clockwork Orange again this year.

[Anonymous No.10005946]

>>10005123
you are welcome. good luck my droog

[Anonymous No.10005950]

i can never get ties to tie like this and look good. what is the secret?

[Anonymous No.10006984]

Triple Fortune apparently has this coat if you want to do qi ouji

[Anonymous No.10007342]

>>10006984
with this and that new atelier boz jacket, i'm wondering if ouji as a style's been growing recently in china or if it's mostly chinese lolitas looking for/making ouji accessories...

[Anonymous No.10007978]

[Anonymous No.10008838]

>>10007342
i think it is just growing. Sheglit and Miho Matsuda have also released qi-able jackets/shirts

>>10007978
fuck off

[Anonymous No.10008858]

>>10005950
Google how to tie a bow tie, apply principles, practice and practice.

[Anonymous No.10009056]

>>10006984
Thats ugly as sin

[Anonymous No.10010216]

>>10009056
the one Babi wears is better. the one they sell for the brand is too plain and blocky

[Anonymous No.10010810]

>>9901671
I'm sorry but it looks like these two boys are about to get lor'd

[Anonymous No.10010814]

>>9950682
I never stop getting infuriated over how badly and frequently gulls mistake blatantly obvious humor as an unironic statement
You need to be tested for autism
Saged for ancient post

[Anonymous No.10010903]

>>9953489
I met him a couple weeks ago during a lolita event in my city. Asked him if he had any ouji/male items for sale, but he didn't.

[Anonymous No.10012836]

>>10010814
imagine getting this mad over banter

>>10010903
damn.

[Anonymous No.10012875]

ouji cat courtesy @milo_luna4

[Anonymous No.10012878]

>>10012875
(on Insta)

[Anonymous No.10012897]

dark skinned ouji @jonahsovereign recently returned to Instagram. ouGs were asking about him. his account is more cosplay than ouji but his coords have improved over time

[Anonymous No.10017003]

i wish more ouji items had border prints. this is a cape. i don't know the brand.

[Anonymous No.10017005]

>>10017003
front

[Anonymous No.10017177]

>>10017003
Same. I buy lolita skirts to make items instead which ends up at a very high fabric price lol

[Anonymous No.10019044]

>>10017177
do you tend to buy new or used? is there much room for error when working with them?

[Anonymous No.10019291]

>>10019044
Secondhand. I'd say that there is a lot more thought going into piecing than with just buying fabric from the store. It's the same as with any re-used fabric since it's already been cut into pieces once and you have to get those pieces to work into the shape you want them to have in the new garment.

[Anonymous No.10021840]

LIEF has this cat coat that would be great for an ouji coord

[Anonymous No.10021849]

>>10021840
Holy fucking shit is there a lolibrary link to this masterpiece

[Anonymous No.10021896]

here are some pics from Baby's 30th anniversary event

>>10021849
i am not sure. i found it on Atelier Pierrot's twitter.

[Anonymous No.10021897]

>>10021896

[Anonymous No.10021898]

>>10021897

[Anonymous No.10021899]

>>10021898

[Anonymous No.10022460]

>>10021899
a couple more from the event

[Anonymous No.10022462]

>>10022460
Akira's full coord

[Anonymous No.10022464]

>>10022462

[Anonymous No.10022466]

>>10022464

[Anonymous No.10025438]

new thread >>10025409