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I think its funny when the 18-25 year old crowd at conventions will say "eww who even comes to these once you're 30"

Do you KNOW who's actually organizing these things? Do you *really* think that same 18-25 demographic is financially responsible and liable for damages? Do you suppose the same kids that have trouble organizing a lunch or a cosplay meetup have the capacity to run an event, let alone with zero problems??

These are the same people that have trouble arriving to programming or picking up a badge. I really don't see them having the wherewithal to organize a room party, even.

>> No.9814727

sure
sage

>> No.9814750

>>9814718
i thought you were dead masa
and desu i never heard any adults saying that, only kids/teens

>> No.9814753

>>9814718
most 18-25 year olds I know hang out easily with the 30+ demographic at cons, or even consider themselves oldfarts already in some fandoms.
I've literally never seen or heard of anyone over 15 engaging in the conversation you're talking about IRL, so ya may as well sage

>> No.9814755

>>9814718
Okay? What are you trying to achieve here? Did you mean to post in the vent thread?

>> No.9814761

>>9814718
I mean, I have absolutely no issue with 30+ attendees and think they bring cool perspective on the industry

but

yes?

As a high level staffer for a mid sized con, 90% of our staff, including our core staff such as the Board, are under the age of 30. 20-Somethings are making purchase orders for T-shirts, plushies, and other convention merch through overseas contacts. They're also booking guests, handling guest agents and contracts. They're writing grant applications. They're finalizing paperwork with the convention center for dates, rooms, fees, deadlines. A LOT of them are sending business emails to vendors and industry contacts between college classes or after they get home from shitty retail jobs.

It’s not
> The same people
Who are failing at organizing other events, but yes, it is the same age range. I count myself as lucky to be part of a group of peers with extreme enthusiasm and dedication for anime and conventions, regardless of if they’re five years younger or five years older than I am.

Although in my experience with networking for other conventions, staff for western comic cons skews much older towards the 30+ demographic.

>> No.9814901

>>9814761

I'm willing to bet if you averaged the age of your entire BoD, that number would be between 25-30, about the time your frontal lobes are fully grown.

If it isn't, it's probably why it's still only a mid sized con at best.

>> No.9814919

>>9814718
So, an innocent thread died so you could attention whore instead of just posting in the feels thread? Fuck off.
I hope this isn't the start of a resurgence of tripfags.

>> No.9815107

>>9814718
The only con in my area is headed by someone that's 23 now so nope after you're 25 if you haven't made it the world treats you like the garbage you might possibly be.

>> No.9815142

>>9815107

there's probably a reason why it's the only con in your area, nobody older is running them

incompetence and youth go hand in hand

>> No.9815180

>>9814718
who hurt you anon?

>> No.9815194

>>9814753
lmao what? I'm early 20s and find anyone over 27-28 gross not even related to cons. pretty much no one i know hangs out with old people unless it's related to their work or research.

if they're presentable then they have no life outside of work and family lol

at best they're on dates at bars or restaurants and theyre so fucking polite it's just gross (so fake)

and at worst they have some geek hobby and are fat or will become fat in late 30s

>> No.9815198

>>9814718
Masa!!

How old are you now? I forget.

>> No.9815213

>>9815194

Some people really are polite like this though. You probably speak in person the way your tone reads on /cgl/.

>> No.9816332

>>9815194
>baitiest of bait

>> No.9817229

>>9815198

old enough to begin running these types of events

>> No.9817244

>>9815194
You just sound like someone's who's become a bit of a bitch due to your own shitty experiences desu

>> No.9817914

>>9814753
Forreal, I have friends that are like 7 years younger than me, hanging out with people 12 years older than me, and we're all getting along like friends (I'm 28 years old btw).

>> No.9817927

To be fair seeing some older people at cons can be a little strange
>Last year at anime expo there was a 50 something dude by himself carrying around a 2ft figure that was basically naked
I mean people are gonna think it's weird

>> No.9817938 [DELETED] 

no one gives a shit about your bitching because you’re old
it’s gross as fuck to see guys 35-40 years old preying on underage or barely 18 girls and reposting lewds

>> No.9817941 [DELETED] 

>>9817938
Maybe costhots shouldn't post lewds then? Just saying.
Also you're implying that some gross, over weight, bitch with an undercut isn't going to perv on a young boy because she's a fujoshit.
Only men, then, I guess.

>> No.9817964 [DELETED] 

>>9817941
maybe old men should learn to keep their dick in their pants instead of sharing their fap material
go back to r9k faggot

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>>9817964
You know if slags like moomoo didn't fucking post lewds in the first place they wouldn't get fapped to?
OH NO.
THEY FAPPED TO SOMETHING THAT WAS PUT OUT TO BE FAPPED TO!
THE HORROR.
Next you're going to be disgusted that guys fap to porn.
But not womyns. They're perfect and never have nasty little sex thoughts. That's the patriarchy.

>> No.9818115 [DELETED] 

>>9817981
>>9817941
I can smell your fedora from here

>> No.9818121 [DELETED] 

>>9817981
>>>/r9k/

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>>9818115
>>9818121
>>Anyone who disagrees with me is a man/robot.
Oh, gulls, never change. Your spergnig never fails to amuse me

>> No.9818327

>>9817938

lmao, the hyperbole is strong with this one. You write like a teenager. Nobody will ever take you seriously if you keep writing like that, but I trust you have years left to grow and someday regret the things you post here.

At best, your influence only goes as far as you can shitpost anonymously here.

>> No.9818343 [DELETED] 

>>9817964

if they don't leave, wtf are you going to do, harass their posts? I'm sure that'll definitely get them to leave

(..it won't)

>> No.9821345 [DELETED] 

>>9817964
Since when did 4chan become so puritanical? Is this a Gen Z thing?

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9822750

I haven’t been to a con in a couple years but I’d like to get back into it.

I’ll turn 31 this year, and I feel like I’m too old already. I don’t look it, but still...

>> No.9822829

>>9822750
Stop going to shows ya creeper

>> No.9822890 [DELETED] 

>>9822829

samefag

>> No.9822900

So once I hit 30 do I have to stop doing anything I find interesting? put the video games behind me and start like going to wine tastings or something.
Like I understand the vibe of 30+ being creepy but like what happens when I hit 30? IDK I still have like a decade so I will pick up new shit by then I guess.

>> No.9822917

I know it's bait thread but:
>Be me, 23 this year, second year of co-hosting a convention in WV
>my con friend is a fresh 21 and is event coordinator for a pair of cons in the KY/IN area
>other con friend is 26~ and has been organizing cons in IN for 3 years already

Self projection much OP?

>> No.9822918

>>9814718

Ironically all the evil in the world now is being by people who are under 30 aka millennialcucks.

>> No.9822921

>>9817914
Same anon (I'm 27 tho)
>>9822750
Honestly, do whatever the fuck you want. I say go to cons, we need more people that aren't in high school attending.
>>9822900
I honestly doubt much will change in terms of interests, as I told the other anon. Keep doing cons or not. I'm not going to let age stop me. I don't believe there's an age limit for this hobby.

>> No.9822928

>>9822750
>>9822900

Naw, I’m older than that and still go to cons and have a great time. Mainly I go with my own group of friends, I know them and they know me, so there’s very little chance for misunderstanding that I’m a creeper. I don’t bother at all with underage girls or lewd cosplays, it’s not even the risk of being called a creeper, I don’t want to get caught up in whatever teen drama or shit they have going on, so it’s better to avoid them entirely.

If you have trouble finding friends who are willing to go with you, try finding weeby interest groups to participate in, I recently found a gamers group in my area and we’re down to discussing whether it’s feasible to do a LAN party at an upcoming con.

>> No.9823160

>>9822900
The Logan's Run mentality is retarded so you're on the right track. I'm 34 and still have the same hobbies as I did when I was 25. Another thing when you get older is dating takes less of a priority and your hobbies become even more important. If you're a thirsty neckbeard or a costhot then you're going to be going to cons for completely different reasons than for someone there for their hobbies. Cons are for fun and I don't let some "whippersnapper" ruin my fun because I'm living life the way I want at the irreversible rate that the years pass. It's actually a sign of immaturity to be that judgmental of people older than you. You grow out of it and stop giving a fuck after hitting 30.

>> No.9823232

>>9822918
>Millennials
>Start date :1981
>under 30
Anon it ain't 2010 anymore.

>> No.9823236

>>9823232
I know this feel but have learned to let it go when people assume Millenials is anyone 20 or under. I'm 34 and a Millenial. I just wish more people knew about Generated Z so we can stop triggering my fake OCD.

>> No.9823237

>>9823236
Generation*

>> No.9823999

>>9822917

I was also an event coordinator in my 20s. You get better at it. By the time you're 30, you'll be a pro. Literally, in some cases. You don't get worse with experience. You don't start off doing great, you make mistakes and come across unforseen circumstances that add to your experience each time you produce.

>> No.9825048 [DELETED] 

>>9818130
>spergnig
Reported for racism

>> No.9825050

>>9823999
how do you become an event coordinator?

>> No.9825056

I've never heard anyone saying that
All I hear is people complaining about the lack of +18 or +21 cons

>> No.9825058

>>9825056
Same, I'm also one of those people as well.

>> No.9825061

hi masa

and yeah i've been going to cons since i was 13 (in 1999) and no idea where this mentality comes from. the people running the cons were always old, MINIMUM the age I am now and more commonly like 40s-50s.

>> No.9825066

>>9825056
Dragoncon and MAGFest we need more of those.
Hell, I'm 34 and still go to various cons. Really though the best thing about going to cons at an older age is now (hopefully) you have "some" disposable income to not have to worry about the varying cost of cons.(travel, badge and hotel)

Its a damn good feeling to not have to play the room stuffing game in order to attend a con, then again a lot of older Millennials are starting to come into some money now. Maybe that's why a lot of these con hotels are starting to sell out at a quicker rate these days.

>> No.9825068

Just wondering, but do you older peeps still cosplay?

>> No.9825074

>>9825050
in my case, networking. I had a coworker at a previous job that was into comic cons and his dad was big in the scene. I went to events with him on and off and a few years later I'd made a name for myself and then his dad had mentioned he was starting up a con and that he wanted people, and he passed my info on.

>> No.9825080

>>9825074
networking makes sense. made a name for yourself how?

>> No.9825096

>>9818327
>D-Don't talk to me unless you have perfect grammar!! I'm a Grammar Nazi XDD
it's not 2010

>> No.9825097

>>9821345
It's always been gross to see old guys sharing porn, jsyk.

>> No.9825138

>>9815194
Early 20s and you already sound like a bitter old hag kek

>> No.9825450

>>9825080
costume is pretty popular, got featured on a bunch of websites, social media, even the news in a few places.

>> No.9825587

>>9825450
well shit, i'm fucked then.

>> No.9825589

>>9825587
you can be more skilled than anyone at what you do or you can know people. In my con chair friend's place 5 years ago she started as a volunteer, 3 years as staff, and then the former con chair stepped down so she's cohosting with another senior staffer.

>> No.9825975

>>9825587

Nah. Just volunteer at cons alongside your actual work experience. It can be anything from office manager, sales, marketing, to graphic designer. Eventually a tradeshow company will hire for that kind of entry leve role and work your way up into some sort of Project Manager role.

Generally event companies want event/tradeshow experience. With cons, you'll qualify. There are tradeshows for all sorts of industries, pick one.

Don't give up. :) The hours can be a little long and the work is fast-paced, but if you're a people person, have high energy and enjoy events, you'll fit in.

>> No.9825986

>>9825587
>>9825589
The key is to just do stuff. Volunteer for positions, host gatherings, host panels, help out with panels and just ask around. You might not get what you want the first time but if you snoop along the right channels you'll eventually get to where you need to be. Good con staff are very vigilant in noticing passionate employees and will do what they can to make sure you're happy enough doing stuff so you don't leave.My personal strategy was to take a project I like doing and then used it as leverage at other places to show my skills.

>> No.9831649

>>9814718
Who cares? 30 is too old to be into childish hobbies.

>> No.9831683

I'm 21, been going to conventions since I was 12. I've never once heard anyone say that outside of bait posts here. Not sure how you're still falling for bait after so many years dude.

>> No.9831693

>>9831649
>30 being too old to be into childish hobbies.
By your logic once you're no longer a child, you're too old for childish hobbies, so I guess even 20 is too old for cosplaying.

>> No.9831695

>>9831683
I'm not sure how you're falling for bait yourself
the entire thread was bait and you necro bumped it

>> No.9831708

>>9831693
Technically, yes. But most 20 year olds are still children. 30 is clearly adult.

>> No.9831715

>>9831708
A 20 year old is not a child, neither are people in their 20's.

>> No.9837147 [DELETED] 

>>9821345
>Is this a Gen Z thing?
Probably.

Where Gen Y demands porrn actresses do with anyone with anything (she has no rights to chose) Gen Z is a very different group. They shall inherit this mess.

>> No.9839234

>>9814718
One of the local cons seppuku'd because the older committee burned out, and the younglings coming up were incompetent and only really did it for a 'committee for con' line on their CV.

>> No.9839383

>>9814718
You do know that the people that organize these events have money as an incentive, right? It's not done out of the goodness of their hearts. They don't need to be congoers.

>> No.9839385

>>9815142
>b-but those don't count, they're shit anyway so they can't prove me wrong
Quit crying, seriously.

>> No.9841482

As time goes on this will be less of an issue. It's kind of similar to how in the past no one over 30 would be caught dead playing video games but now it is super common.

>> No.9841874

>>9831715
Physically? They're adults. Emotionally or mentally? Many aren't, especially those at anime conventions.

>> No.9842417

>>9841874
Yeah, the human brain is fully developed until around the age 25.

>> No.9843790

>>9842417
Fans of anime, or animation in general, seem to the worst. So many people involved in such fandoms are at the mental/emotional level of a 12 year old or worse.

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>>9822750
I don't let my age stop me. My gf & I have a bunch of young friends and we all go together as a group. If you feel like you'll be age shamed, either cosplay a character with a mask or get fit and cosplay a muscular character like here >>9842383

>> No.9850098

>>9831649

No it's not. We actually sustain these industries because we actually have money.

I guarantee when you turn 30, you'll be balls deeper in your geekdoms.

>> No.9850099

>>9841874

And I'm sure you posting here is proof enough you're among the emotionally stunted. This board culture is toxic for long periods of time.

>> No.9854809

I am already 31 and still love animu, doujin, videogames and geekstuff.
But I lost my interest in cosplay... not because I feel to old, no... because I do cosplay since I was 16 years old. I have enough!!! Too much cosplay! Currently my main interest is drawing and I want to become good at drawing too.

>> No.9855050

>>9814718
I'm 30, first time I went to a con was at 12, if I heard anyone say that I'd give them 'the look' and walk on.

>> No.9855052

>>9817964
It's either wrong or it isn't, it doesn't matter if the person doing is 50 or 20.

>> No.9856252

I'm 25 and I run my own convention's our teams ages are 19-34. We do pretty well out of it. It's very hard moving from going to cons to producing them but providing everyone works together then we're just as good as those 30-50 year olds running cons ;)

>> No.9856326

>>9855052
It's gross either way, but at least if it's someone who's 20 you just think it's because they're young and cringy, not some old pervert. Especially when they share young looking anime girls all the time; 20 year olds are the age group those shows and medias are directed to, not 50 year olds.

>> No.9856329

>>9850099
Aren't you posting here too? Being an emotionally stunted 18 year old is better than being an emotionally stunted 30 year old, kek

>> No.9856545 [DELETED] 

>>9856326
No, it means they are young perverts.
Realize that there is no "evil capacity" smaller for a 14 year old than there is for a 50 year old.

>> No.9856660

>>9856545
No it’s not, being interested in a 16-17 year old girl when you’re 18-20 is fine. Being into a 16 year old girl when you’re 50 is disgusting. Sorry you’re a pedophile

>> No.9856666

I do think older people should not cosplay as high schoolers and whatever. Though i admit there arnt so many "cool" characters to cosplay as once you loose your fresh face.

>> No.9856914

>>9856666
>I do think older people should not cosplay as high schoolers and whatever.
THIS! I can still do some high schoolers because I look young but I can not identify with teens, kids and youngfags. I prefer to choose mature and adult characters, I can better identify with them.

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>> No.9856953

My friend group is guilty of this to an extent.

But it's more about people that don't have their lives together. It's like they haven't grown in 10 years..

But I think my friends are forgetting they're describing themselves as they hit their late 20s with nothing to show for it.

woops

>> No.9856989

>>9814718
I’m 27 and still doing cons, although my friend group and I will probably phase out soonish and just do Ren fairies. Age doesn’t matter at all there.

>> No.9857029

Depends on the con, smaller cons seem to have either a young or an old crowd. Young if it's a relatively fresh con, and old crowd if its turned basically into a meet up for the same people who've been going since 1998

Big cons are better as just about anybody of any age can turn up, although they may lack that intimate feel.

>> No.9857035

I just switched from Anime cons to general Nerd cons. The average age is higher and so is the maturity level. I'd love to stick with anime cons but some of the people just make it untenable

>> No.9857084 [DELETED] 

>>9856660
I was never attracted to 12 year olds because I'm not a pedo. It wouldn't be more okay if I was also 12. Don't make excuses for people because they are young.

>> No.9857144

>>9857084
Being attracted to other 12 years olds when you're 12 is the definition of normal you incel

>> No.9857148

>>9856252

if nobody's even heard of your con i doubt it's run well

>> No.9857150

>>9857148
That's bullshit; there's tons of well run small cons. It's not like Anime Expos started out huge.

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AYYY HE'S STILL ALIVE!

>> No.9857256 [DELETED] 

>>9857144
I was attracted to 16 year olds when I was 12, because at no point was I attracted to non post-pubescent women.
This idea of changing the nature of a crime because of the status of the perpetrator is horseshit. California has it right that they can sentence both minors having sex to prison.

>> No.9857270

>>9857256
>actually trying to argue that middle schoolers liking each other isn't normal
christ, incels these days

>> No.9857356

>>9814718
>>9814901
Was that before or after you've been fired and blacklisted?

>> No.9857362

im currently 18 and i always think to myself "when am i going to have to stop doing this" an in my mind i think a few years but then i realize the fact that this is actually more of an adult hobby, especially with the expenses. im not excusing them, but if they are like me and started young (at 14) its hard to wrap your head around.

>> No.9857486 [DELETED] 

>>9857270
I'm not saying it isn't nor.al I'm just saying is it is never okay to act on attraction to middle schoolers.

>> No.9857498

>>9857486
>actually thinking that middle schoolers aren't allowed to date each other
you must have been very lonely in your formative years

>> No.9857506

>>9857486
HAHAHAHAHAHA holy shit this is new levels of virgin saltiness

>> No.9857895

>>9857362
you stop when you don't want to do it any more.
I'm 23, I have a handful of friends of all sorts of ages. Most are in the late 20s, but theres a few into their early and mid 30s. To me it seems that after 21, if youre still in it, then youre in for the long haul. I've known some of these people for 7 years, I dont even know their first name, just call them by their cosplay... and im still happier than ever to see them still being faithful to that same idea they had, almost a decade later.

>> No.9857916

Shit I am 25 and was going to go to my first con. Now I am self conscious.

>> No.9857964

>>9857916
the older crowd is generally the evening crowd, because they're the one with the jobs. Just show up to anything after 3pm and youll see more of your brethren

>> No.9857996

>>9856329

other than to respond to this thread, I don't browse this board anymore. I was an adult when I started posting here.

You should try leaving the board for awhile, it's great.

>>9856989

this

>>9857150

generally the well run ones have staff that have been staffing other cons for decades. New cons tend to run around like headless chickens trying to see what works while not anticipating problems

>>9857356

lol fired from what? I want whatever drugs you're smoking

>>9857916

I wouldn't worry about it at all. The kids who say that stuff don't really have much sway when it comes to convention organizing, or have much influence in what actually matters at events

>> No.9858449

I was hoping for years that I coyld make a friend to go to a con with, but it never happened. As I got older, I came to realize maybe it just wasn't for me. I suppose it's better than druvung by myself for hours, possibly being in a hotel room alone, all to end up like the "my feet hurt" comic at the con.

>> No.9858456

>>9858449
Did you try talking to people?

>> No.9858463

>>9858456
Talking to people where and how, exactly?

>> No.9858471

>>9857996
>I'm sure you posting here is proof enough you're among the emotionally stunted
>B-BUT I ONLY POST HERE SOMETIMES!!!!
k, emotionally stunted old man

>> No.9858479

>>9858449
>>9858463
>cosplay from x series
>talk to other people in character
>"Oh you seem pretty cool, lets go to x panel or grab y drink or order z for dinner!"
I've had it happen dozens of times. Just commit to a fandom, commit to a character, want it enough, and the rest will follow.
>hardmode: dont sperg

>> No.9858486

I mean the age argument is more commonly thrown around in jfash communities. Anime cons started out as mostly adult attended because anime was so hard to access.

>> No.9858491

>>9858479
I don't know, literal LARPing and not bwing a sperg are pretty apposed to each other

>> No.9858534

>>9858491
you're in a niche hobby occupied by 95% social rejects, the boundaries of sperging have been expanding exponentially compared to normie territory.

>> No.9858610

>>9858479
>talk to other people in character
Too much cringe for me.
Srsly, for roleplay I feel really too old.

>> No.9865322

>>9831649
lmao are you a fucking retard
30 is when you actually have enough money to AFFORD your childish hobbies.

>> No.9865552

Yeah I'd say the people who say that are just dicks. Anyone that's mature enough wouldn't have that point of view, at least that maturity being on the level of the typical young adult. You're awesome btw Masa, keep doing what you love.

>> No.9867143

>>9858449
Cons are for meeting up with all of my friends who live inside my computer. I serendipitously found out 2 friends from my high school go to cons in the area, but otherwise I travel to big cons that chunks of my online friends go to. Try looking for sane people around your age in fandoms you like.
>>9865322
Pretty much this. If you see yourself "growing out of" the hobby, save yourself of time/cash and drop it now. I've been here since I was underage b&, now I'm 30. I find that while my tastes have gotten more specific and most of my time is spent doing other hobbies, I still very much enjoy anime/vidya.

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>>9814901
For the bigger cons, I'd say the median age of senior staff is probably closer to 35.

I also think it's utterly hilarious that this viewpoint seems to be almost entirely confined to anime-ish cons; other cons tend to skew much, *much* older.

>> No.9867680

>>9858486
Why can't it still be this way? The average age going down to 16-21 is what turned anime cons into drama.

>> No.9868462

>>9814753

Same. Lots of my cosplay friends are 10 years younger than me.

>> No.9868940

>>9814718
The
>You're too old to enjoy X anon
Is a fucking boomer mentality and will die with their generation.

>> No.9868976

>>9825068
38 and been cosplaying for 22 or so years, I finally am financially stable + skilled enough to make the dream cosplays of my youth, so hell yea I'm still playing dress up!

>> No.9869061

>>9868976
Please do a cosplay with mask, full body costume with armor or something or a older character. It looks really stupid when older people cosplaying young characters.

>> No.9869065

>>9867562
>Kippi
Oh, god! I remember about her! Is she still alive? I believe she already quit cosplay. She is now "old" too... old hag.

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>>9869061

according to some kid, nobody cares if you're judgmental if it's coming from someone between the ages of 18-22 lol

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>>9865552

Thanks for the kind words, a rarity here!