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>> No.9810825

First for classic lolita best lolita

>> No.9810854

This is the real general. Disregard the other one

>> No.9810869
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The middle row is SLAYING me. And that hat is too cute.
>tfw when it's way too sweet for your wardrobe

>> No.9810890

This is so simple and gorgeous.

>> No.9810891
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>sweet brand
>solid colors

RIP my bank account

>> No.9810909

you and me both

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I hope she wears lolita forever. It would be too sad to see her retire.

>> No.9811054

I want all of it

>> No.9811057

I need all of these.

>> No.9811183

How much can I expect to pay for the Teddy Motors OP dress? I know the jumpsuit version recently went for 400 but I can't find any old listings for the dress. I saw someone mention it recently went for under 4000 yen, can that be right?

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So.... other than Fresh Cherry a bunch of non-prints are also going up this Saturday.

Anyone want to chime in on these gloves? The last pair of gloves I had from AP were kind of horrible. Though granted mine were released in 2006 or 2008 or something and by the time I bought them in 2013 the lace had gone all weird and stiff.

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Posting this one because we apparently have some anons looking for burando to sleep in, this looks pretty comfy.

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And posting this blouse because I already posted everything else. Comes in 5 colours.

>> No.9811263

>was planning on seeing anthrax in concert
>didn’t realize that slayer was headlining
>slayer’s last tour
>almost all tickets sold during presale
>$300 seats left

I guess I’m buying Fresh Cherry Saturday

>> No.9811274

It's one of those things that often goes for quite cheap on the second hand markets but just doesn't come up often (actually a lot of Meta is like this)
There was a Teddy Motors collector around whose LJ handle was mydirtymirrors and I think she managed to get a full set, you could always try and get in touch with her.

>> No.9811314

thanks for letting me know they were on sale. had no idea.
mfw I realized that I agreed to work on that day and need to reorganize things. Thank god tickets are cheap as fuck because it's Sacramento which might as well be the middle of nowhere as far as California goes.

>> No.9811460

I have a similar pair. They are quite delicate (like any lace gloves) so if you think you can wear them without catching them on anything, they are nice. But it's very easy to catch them on things. I personally prefer the wristlet type that don't go over your fingers, they just have a loop for your middle finger. It's easier to eat and manage things like keys, belongings, etc. without having to remove them.

>> No.9811520

ME too, anon.
she's got like 10 years on me and I hope to follow her for inspo as we grow older. I can't wait to be an oba-lita. no one will be able to give me any shit, and hopefully I'll be loaded and living off the interest of some fat accounts.

>> No.9811535

No problem! I was planning to see them in SJ but all the presales ate up the cheap seats.

>> No.9811562
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Who wants to fork over $700?

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>> No.9811580

Holy shit she looks so old!

>> No.9811581

She's still cuter than you.

>> No.9811609

Hey Moitie lovers, how much give/extra room do Moitie jsks and ops with corset lacing give? I assume it's not much, but like for example a size 2 jsk with corset lacing, how much extra "room" is there if you pull out the lacing a bit?

>> No.9811621

Which dress?

>> No.9811628

Don't wear moitie if you're too fat for the normal measurements.

>> No.9811674

Fuck. Holy fuck look at that beauty

>> No.9811677

None. The lacing isn’t there to give space but take away.

>> No.9811678

I’m saying this as a fatty, please don’t ruin moitie with your lard ass

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Call me a dumbass newfag, but can someone explain to me why Baby’s OPs are always so much more expensive than their JSKs even when the OP is simpler in construction and uses less fabric and trimmings? That OP costs almost 10k yen more than this JSK.

>> No.9811695 [DELETED] 

Well fuck.

>> No.9811702

Can you give a different example besides this one which obviously has more expensive fabric?

>> No.9811713

wow, such a bargain at only 70 dollars

>> No.9811714

Kelly Eden’s temper tantrum pt.2 waiting to happen

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>> No.9811719

wow you're so funny

>> No.9811723

>not belonging to e-mail list for AXS/LiveNation or your favorite band
>not getting sent those pre-sale codes so you too can get decent seats
Anon, this is something you can change, just sayin'

>> No.9811729

I didn’t qualify for any of the presales lol

If it weren’t for Slayer having their last tour alongside Anthrax and Testament I wouldn’t expect tickets to cost more than $70

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I cut up brand because I don’t like headbows

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>> No.9811738 [DELETED] 

so where are you going to put it?

>> No.9811741

Wow that was stupid. You could have seam ripped the headband out.

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>saying this as a fatty
>lard ass

projecting self-hate isn't kawaii

>> No.9811747

ooo I have that in black!
I think you could have easily, like >>9811741
said, removed the bow, but kept the band in tact.

but maybe you're not interested in resale?
anyway, you realize this is an 18+ site, right?

>> No.9811754

Tried that, seems like they used a sewing machine on it so it would’ve destroyed the how worse. Don’t plan on reselling anyhow so it’s okay

>> No.9811756


And? Still doesn’t change the fact that they will destroy the dress if they attempt to manipulate their fat into a dress that is too damn small

>> No.9811765

>seems like they used a sewing machine on it so it would’ve destroyed the how worse.
Do you not know how to seam rip? Machine sewing can still be seam ripped, what even.

Like >>9811747
You must be 18+ to use this site.

>> No.9811792

I'm not sure if this is the right place to post this. I haven't been to /cgl/ in a few years

when i was in high school I wanted to be a daily lolita and worked almost full time to try to amass a wardrobe for daily wear. now I'm in grad school and I never wear this stuff. i'm super busy and have horrible mental health that prevents me from doing anything beyond the bare minimum. even if i had the energy i don't wanna bother dealing with people harassing me. i've tried selling things on FB but nobody seems interested in my personal sphere, and I don't wanna deal with people on the international market. i'd feel like i'd have to repair the damage on much of the stuff, or at least try to get out the cat smell (i have 6 cats so i assume things might be vaguely catty) and i just don't have the time or energy

guess what i'm getting at is, would people be interested in paying shipping only for some heavily used and damaged pieces or should i just throw it all away? i was thinking of making a thread just giving everything away at some point. at this point i kinda just want it all gone. it just makes me sad to look at

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>> No.9811797

you sound depressed for some reason lol
like people who don't have energy to do the most basic stuff in life

>> No.9811798

I'm sure people would be interested. Just look at what wunderwelt does. Just mention in your listing everything is sold as is and damages are very likely. Sell as lots or each piece alone, however you choose.

>> No.9811802

I've been there too. Have now graduated and am starting to wear lolita again, though I had to get rid of most of my old clothes because my tastes changed. I think selling it in lots and listing the damages is the way to go, anon. Or potentially using the BST thread here or doing a giveaway! I know I'd try to pick up something if you sold them, I've started to enjoy repairing old clothes recently.

>> No.9811809

I’d be interested. Have you been posting in the right places? Or maybe your photos aren’t great? Just some thoughts

>> No.9811824

I'm sure someone will be interested. Selling it for cheap is still better than just throwing all of it away.
Maybe try catering to new lolitas that just want to try if it suits them? What was your style? What brands do you have? Also check if your stuff isn't rare or something, it will sell no matter how damaged.

>> No.9811829

They definitely just sew it on in four points on the ends. You could have saved time and just seam ripped it off...

>> No.9811837

Please think this over for a longer time anon. It's probably more worth than you think and you shouldn't make such decisions on a (depressed) whim. Make sure you won't regret it. You could let people make offers or put them up as auctions.
But if you're really sure, I'd be interested if you'd be okay with shipping internationally. I'd pay your normal price too if it's cheap. As long as nothing is literally ripped in two, I don't mind damages or cat smell and other cheapfags probably think the same.

>> No.9811868

I'm interested. Throw some pics up in the BST thread, I'm sure you'll be able to get rid of things.

>> No.9811877

Another person interested. Post in the bst thread!

>> No.9811904


Hmm, yeah. That sounds less than ideal, especially being easy to catch on things.

Thank you for your info!

>> No.9811962

Are there any gothic brands that are larger-bust friendly and if so which ones? I've been sweet for about 4 years and while I still love it. I want to dip my toes into something new.

>> No.9811970

Enchantilly and Atelier Pierrot are both fairly boob friendly, as are Moitie shirred OPs. Skirts are also doable if you have a very small (26" or so for Moitie) waist, although blouses could prove annoying to find. AatP gothic releases might also be something to look in to.

>> No.9811985

Also interested in your stuff. Please post!

>> No.9811996

I'm assuming you mean like 90-100cm and "busty", but Chantilly and Atelier Pierrot.

>> No.9812009

Yeah I'm 96cm bust. I'll look into both! Thanks for the suggestions.

>> No.9812040

$65+fees for floor

>> No.9812107
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She's been looking really old and haggard lately. I guess that's what happens when you suck too much dick.

>> No.9812133

>i'm super busy and have horrible mental health
>you sound depressed for some reason lol
>what is reading comprehension

>> No.9812137

Thank you, then obviously I won't buy a dress in that style. That was all I wanted to know, I don't buy dresses I have zero hope of fitting into, I already run risks of waists not hitting where they should because I'm tall.

>> No.9812147

In what universe is this an old and haggard look?

>> No.9812158

Horrible mental health doesn't mean depression

>> No.9812159

Pray tell what do you think depression is?

>> No.9812173

she is lovely

>> No.9812179

It can also be from smoking pipe.

>> No.9812207

There are other mental illnesses that are not depression, you do realize that?

>> No.9812208

I do realize that, but responding to an anon who says they're suffering from their horrible mental health with "lol you sound depressed or something" is fucking stupid.

>> No.9812227

I'm sorry your fee-fees were bruised

>> No.9812229

lol what

>> No.9812241
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The new Triple Fortune dress that was posted in the last thread is actually a re-release. Pic related is from 2007.

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Looks like Beth isn't completely dead.

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How is it old and haggard? You bitches need a reality check

>> No.9812370

I bought a red velvet headbow that's completely covered in dust. What can I do to clean it without damaging the fabric? I tried soaking it in water for a bit but the dust just clings to it.

>> No.9812372

>soaking velvet in water
Jesus, anon, use a lint roller.

>> No.9812380

Lint rollar wouldn't be good for it

>> No.9812383

lint roller is fine for velvet. it's not flocky, and even then only shit flocky would be messed up by that.

>> No.9812384

Why not? It's how I clean up my velvet bows, it works just fine.

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>lint roller wouldn't be good for it
>but soaking velvet in water is

>> No.9812392

Nvm I shouldn't have asked on cgl lol

>> No.9812405

>ask a question
>get answer you don't like for some reason
>lol nvm shouldn't have asked
Okay? Enjoy ruining your velvet, I guess.

>> No.9812411

She's fine. Just because her eye bags and cheeks are a bit heavier doesn't mean she looks 60.

>> No.9812509
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So IW size L boleros are listed as 89cm bust. I fit most IW pieces comfortably, but I've never bought a bolero before. My bust size is 96. Do the boleros have any stretch or am I fucked?

>> No.9812511

Yeah, ignore these stupid gulls. Just throw it in your washing machine, I'm sure it will be fine.

>> No.9812513

The body is made from a knit so there is some stretch, though I don't know if there's enough to go up to a 96

>> No.9812515

I did. Came out perfectly, thanks!

>> No.9812557

>try to sell something for 2 months
>second hand shop uploads the same thing for a much higher price
>sells within a day
Please explain. This happens way too often.

>> No.9812560

just be patient

>> No.9812562

Some brands (eg JM if it doesn't have a (book) print) are just worthless on the Western secondhand market

>> No.9812607

I once did this measurement for a friend and found out that the bolero can stretch up to 100 cm. I dunno how it wil fit because she never got one.

>> No.9812746

I have 96 bust and the size L bolero looks great! I got posted here wearing it and no one said anything negative, I actually got compliments for a change. Usually people bitch about my coords or looks but it's hard to go wrong with IW

>> No.9812772

>I actually got compliments for a change
I bet you think you "improved"

>> No.9812780

shut up voldie

>> No.9812782

Nayrt but if she gets complimented and she doesn't usually, surely that means she did improve?

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I hope this means they're going to re-release their older stuff. Only ever started following their releases because this older site had a ton of gorgeous headwear, but they dropped all of that and started releasing those fully shirred polyester prints. Please, 3F, just let me buy one of your gorgeous hats.

>> No.9812858


>second hand shop

Yeah, some people like to memorise when second hand shops update and impulse shop then. I don't know why they don't just sort LM by price instead.

>> No.9812954

oh ffs voldie doesn't even type remotely like that

>> No.9812960

Have you heard? Here on cgl, anyone over 21 is old and looks haggard

>> No.9813056
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Does anyone know the name and release year of this dress? Didn't find it on lolibrary.

>> No.9813069

The closest I found was the Royal Frill Bustier OP, looks like a floral variant of it. Came out in 2012.

>> No.9813131

I would never want a compliment from anons. Don't trust you people for a second.

>> No.9813139

Recently came back to lolita. How does one find anything on lolibraryanymore? Can you not search using multiple different tags anymore?

>> No.9813143

Can anyone who owns a pair of the foam style RHS tell me how much their pair weighs? I'm trying to guess how much shipping will be from my SS.

>> No.9813148

What are you trying to search for? The admin updated it last weekend and it's been working better than ever for me now

>> No.9813186
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I found the jsk after looking through lots of pages.
Not complaining though. I am very grateful lolibrary exist.

>> No.9813196

1 kg

>> No.9813457

>>9811798 >>9811802 >>9811809 >>9811824
>>9811837 >>9811868 >>9811877
Thanks anons. I somehow had completely forgot about the BST threads here.. I feel pretty silly now. I'll probably wait for a new thread before posting, or a week or two when things have slowed down a bit for me, whichever comes first. Probably just make everything best offer to get rid of it all quick while still getting at least a little something out of it. Thanks again!

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opinions/ experiences selling something that was a gift.
I got a ap full set as a gift like 5 years ago. It really meant so much to me, but I haven't worn any of the pieces in years.
thinking about selling and buying a different version of the print that is more my style.
want to sell but I feel so guilty, anyone else have this dilemma?

>> No.9813717

this general is so slow

Who did you get it from? If it was from, say, a relative or friend who isn't into lolita, then I'd say go ahead, no biggie. But if it's someone who is into lolita as much as you are, maybe ask whether it'd hurt her feelings to sell it or not?
I've got a friend who I bought a phone case for last year, and now she upgraded her phone it doesn't fit. She feels terrible to sell a gift, and tells me that a lot. However I want her to sell it! It's a damn cute case, and if she isn't getting any use for it she might as well get some money for it and give it to someone who wants it, but she feels too bad, so it'll always just collect dust.
Anyway sorry for the blogpost, just showing you how whoever gifted it to you might think.

Also.... it was 5 years ago. It's a very old gift. I'm sure the gifter understands that your style has changed. There's things I've received in the past that I've sold because it's not my thing anymore, so why let it take up space when someone else could use it?

Maybe take one last coord pic in it, then send it on its way

>> No.9813908


How full is the full set? Just mentioning that you might be able to keep the accessories and wear them with the other version you want to buy. Accessories are often the hardest things to track down as people often lose little bits of jewellery or throw away badly stained socks or broken wrist cuffs.

As for selling the gift, 5 years is a pretty long time and most people wouldn't mind if you say you loved it, but are now thinking of selling it. But, some people do gift things with strings attached, and for some people, a $300-500 full set might be something they attach strings to. You know the giver better than us, is this a gift they're fixated on, do they often ask you about it? If so, they might be a little upset about you selling it on (none of this is your fault, it's really their problem for giving away something they feel attached to. But your issue is whether you want to keep the relationship going by keeping the dress even if you don't wear it).

You might try and bring up the dress in conversation and see how they react to it. If they don't react badly, mention that you're thinking of selling the dress.

>> No.9813912

Has anyone ordered from My-Lolita-Dress lately? They're late sending out my shoes

>> No.9813981
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Does anyone know where these tights are from?

>> No.9814080

Are you retarded? It's a short clip of her puffing on a hookah, she isn't a chain smoker. She clearly coughed immediately which tells anyone with half a brain that she doesn't normally use it.

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>> No.9814229

god damn I love this but I have no other gothic stuff in my wardrobe. What's the chances of getting this somewhat cheaper secondhand? I'm primarily a sweet lolita so there'd be no point me buying it firsthand just to hate it on me (and yes, I know the chances are very minimal)

>> No.9814232

They're literally always late. I've bought twice from them and they've always been 3-6 weeks later than when it was meant to come. My friends who have bought from them have similar experiences.

>> No.9814233

Stop spamming the same ugly blouse, damn

>> No.9814368

I don't know the chances of buying it cheaper 2ndhand but if you buy it new and hate it on I bet you could sell it NWT and get your money back.

>> No.9814370

>cheaper secondhand
Only if it's really unpopular or well used, and even then it likely won't pop up and when it does it'll still be quite expensive.

>> No.9814374

Hard to say. Moitiefags like keeping the value up, but if they make a lot and it doesn’t sell out the shop may put it on sale eventually.

>> No.9814376

moitiefags keep their stuff unless they leave lolita. they they suddenly sell everything at the same time for a high price.

>> No.9814385

are you talking about the blouse? the dress is sold out. i think you could wear the blouse with sweet solids fine.

>> No.9814422

I was talking about the dress. Not surprised it's sold out.

Thanks anons

>> No.9814441

>tfw gothic lolita but think modern Moitie is ugly as sin
I really don't get the diehard fans

>> No.9814445

God this is beautiful though

>> No.9814468

the blouse is a re-release and the Falling Cross collection was based on Cross Line

>> No.9814508

The dress is a 2016 release

>> No.9814509

For a long time I wouldn’t lost this pair of shoes I had lost the strap for (plus they were worn out bad). I finally listed it and they sold instantly. Go for it. Cat hair and a small pet smell isn’t bad. I wouldn’t sell them if say a cat puked or spayed on it. I went to school with a kid who would let his cat spay on his clothes and he never washed them. It was bad.

>> No.9814511

>his cat spay on his clothes and he never washed them.
It's fine if you do indeed wash them? You just have to use the right cleaner, but really just avoid letting it happen in the first place.

>> No.9814627

Ugh, thanks I emailed Linda and apparently they shipped my shit out already but didn't email me a tracking code lol

>> No.9814646

How long do I wait after paying a Paypal invoice and hearing nothing back from the seller before I message them and eventually opening a dispute?

>> No.9814657

For LM I've waited up to two or three weeks for someone to ship something out because they were either sick or out of town or unable to immediately get to the post office or some other mental/physical/emotional health problem sort of excuse, so ymmv. At the bare minimum you can message to confirm that the paypal invoice was received because there have been times when paypal glitches and doesn't alert the seller as to receiving payment.

After that you've got 180 days to open a dispute, so it'll depend on your patience with the seller.

>> No.9814673

if was from the people who raised me.
thanks for the story anon, nice to see it from the other perspective.
last coord shot sounds nice.Will probably just end up wearing it around my house one last time

its is a complete set.I think i will keep the smaller pieces of the set.
I don't think they would mind too much , but they have just mentioned casually a few months ago.
I actually don't think they would even notice if i got the same color in the jsk or skirt version, but I guess i should just ask them straight out,.

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Has this skirt gotten released since it's original release?
it is meta's music note skirt.
I bought one from a japanese site and it looks and feels brand new. it even have the tags still attached.

>> No.9814770

I don’t know, but if it has the tags you can check the item number for identification. New releases get new item numbers. So if the item number is the same as on lolibrary, it’s from that year.

>> No.9814777

Is there any way to delete or edit an auction on LC after someone has bid on it? I've got an auction up with Lolibrary measurements, but I've measured the dress myself and it is 3cm smaller than the listed measurements.

>> No.9814795

No. If someone has bid on it, you're SOL.
3cm is not that big of a deal, imo, but I always mention that I take measurements from Lolibrary and that they might not be accurate.

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thanks anon, I didn't think of that.
The number on the tag is
and on lolibrary it says
so it is the same, but the buttons on mine are different from the photos on lacemarket.
mine are fabric covered buttons that match the skirt
it is very strange

>> No.9814808

This note was added om Lolibrary:
[Image credit]
Pink colorway: Miss Harajuku (note: does not have the original buttons)

So I think you have the original ones.

>> No.9814815

Oh thanks anon, I'm dumb I should have read more carefully.
It is so weird. it is from 2003 but feels completely brand new, and pristine. I will feel guilty wearing it for the first time.

>> No.9814827

I sell a lot of used items online outside lolita, and I can tell you the one thing buyers want is just honesty and pictures. If there’s damage, take a picture of the damaged area. Describe what you can’t see as well (maybe faded colors, the changed feel to a fabric, or smell like you stated) and buyers always like it. It also helps you in the event anyone tries to use damage against you, as your case is all in the pics or description. Don’t throw it away because after the initial pics taken, it just sits there online in a listing and you can store it out of sight until it sells. It’s a very easy way to make money if you don’t feel like doing things.

>> No.9814988

how big will brand otks stretch? what are your calf measurements and do you stretch out otks?
not sure if I should even try buying a pair or just wait until my hams aren't so hammy.

>> No.9814992

How long does it take a package from Canada to get to America?

>> No.9815004

Depends on the shipping method, but usually it takes my packages 1-3 weeks, depending on customs and the seller's location.

>> No.9815005

2-4 weeks in my experience. Avg. is 3 weeks for me.

I'm in New England and regularly order a topical salve (for carpel tunnel) from an herbalist in Ontario. So for reference, that's ~3 weeks for a package to travel just across the boarder. Canada Post sucks.

>> No.9815042

KOMACHI2266531 fits plus-size

>> No.9815086

It depends on the brand and the otks in question. Don't ever try the type with lamé or they will be instantly destroyed.

>> No.9815090

anon asked about OTKs, not tights

In my experience, 18 inch calves are about the max. I could still fit into most AP and Meta, and some IW at that size (with allowances for things like certain motifs or metallic threads reducing the stretch or looking too stretched out)

>> No.9815153

How accurate are Innocent world's blouse measurements? I have a 90 bust and 74 cm waist, so I'm not sure what size to get for their new blouse

>> No.9815189

I would get size L - it's better to have a little room, they recommend being 4-5cm under the max measurements of blouses and you're right at the max for most M. Some M may fit you but probably not as well as L size. And I'm well under the max for M generally and they fit me fine at 86 / 66, so you should be good in L even if you think it sounds like it's too big.

>> No.9815204

I was wondering if any gulls know where to buy bell-shaped underskirts?

>> No.9815210

Baby/AatP, IW, and VM have all made underskirts that would fit a bell petticoat in the recent past.

>> No.9815211

I hate buying lame socks secondhand for this reason. I've received several pairs with undisclosed damage.

>> No.9815225

This ones cute. I'd wear it more as a normie dress than lolita though.

>> No.9815534

Thanks, went for the L size!

>> No.9815575

Why? I don't think it'd look as good without a petticoat

>> No.9815605
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American Dutchess spring shoe collection announced. They said that they designed this collection specifically with lolitas in mind

>> No.9815631

>They said that they designed this collection specifically with lolitas in mind
where is this said?

>> No.9815641

Their FB update

>> No.9815646

These aren't too cute...

>> No.9815649

In their post in Lolita Updates. It's just marketing/PR-speak.

>> No.9815651

I wish there were some kind of straps in the design. I wouldn't use these for classic lolita at all...

>> No.9815652

Yeah that's what I thought as well. Would've been a hit if they included a strap.

>> No.9815669

funny the whole lolita in mind thing on facebook, but it is mentioned nowhere in there blog post about them, almost like it is just a lie to sell more shoes.

>> No.9815686

That, or they know normies are ignorant and are going to assume they are creepy pedo shoes if they say the L word in a post for the general public

>> No.9815707
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Meta 2018 sailor collection


>> No.9815709
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>> No.9815721

they have mentioned lolitas on their blog before

>> No.9815731

why did you have to put a pic of deneice up? you could've cropped that hags face out

>> No.9815734

Saying “hey lolitas are real, here are ten ways to incorporate their idgaf attitude into your retro style” and “here are lolita shoes: buy them” are two different things

>> No.9815740

sorry what I meant is
They have mentioned lolitas on their blog so they aren't afraid of the reaction from the general public. from using the word lolita
however in their blog post about this so called "designed with lolita in mind" release, they don't mention lolita at all. only the facebook post towards lolitas do they mention this.

>> No.9815744

...right. Because there is a big difference to a company who’s core audience are not lolitas to point out lolitas as an interesting novelty and saying “hey y’all, here are some lolita shoes! you should totally buy these shoes that are made for lolitas! this $120 product being sold to retro fashion lovers and reenactors? lolita! hope you all like LOLITA”

>> No.9815747

nayrt but they actually do market some of their shoes towards lolita


>With a shaped top and scalloped sides, paired with a practical Louis heel, the Colette are the boots dreams are made of. Paire them with late Victorian, Edwardian, and Great War impressions, as well as cosplay, Downton Abbey, Titanic, Steampunk, Lolita, and Gothic attire. Colette boots may be custom fit to your ankle and calf by moving the buttons.

>> No.9815748

Why would a brand risk turning off their main market buy labeling their product as something niche and arguably controversial, when they can just market it to the general public normally and quietly tip off the niche group in an appropriate forum?

>> No.9815749

I think we agree?
I just think it a blatant lie, they obviously where not designed with lolitas in mind. and they are just saying that to get the lolita bucks

>> No.9815754

>designed for lolitas!
>dat shine
... Right. For reenactment shoes, yeah okay. But nope for lolita.

>> No.9815757


>> No.9815759

oh boy...
those otks with lil collars, that suspender skirt...
all that petti room. I'm sold!!

>> No.9815764

Did you forget that AaTP and Baby often release shiny and pearlescent shoes?

>> No.9815767

Nayrt but
>anon mention misako dick sucking
>includes photo of Denice

Im pretty sure its in intentional refrence to Misako's dick sucking to keep on getting SiW and AM gigs, free trips to Hawaii, free designer merch, etc.

>> No.9815768

Pearlescent pleather looks a lot different than shiny sateen, anon.

>> No.9815792

Aren’t they the ones sucking her dick to get her to keep attending?

>> No.9815833

I'll pass
these don't look loliable in the slightest

>> No.9815867

pockets!!!!! Love those tights.

>> No.9816296

fuck the tights the hat is adorable

>> No.9816319
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reposting this from a girl's facebook.
a LA lolita's stuff got stolen from her car so be careful if you see any of this for sale!

>> No.9816323


They look like cheap satin shoes I'd buy on aliexpress.

>> No.9816325

There are plenty of people willing to book her, but they are the only ones she gets so much free shit from. Either way, she doesn't get a free pass for continuing this sort of relationship with them.

>> No.9816326
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What the fuck? Was it another lolita?
>me imagining my lolita getting stolen

>> No.9816329

maybe it's all the vaping?

>> No.9816348
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okay so 3/14 is here but the new bodyline site is not up yet.
>Yan, why do you lie to me?

>> No.9816395


Stolen with other stuff? I can't imagine normies breaking into a car to steal frilly dresses when most of them think we're either wearing some grandma shit or costume kei. Should tell her to go dumpster diving, the thief probably already dumped it all when they saw it's not anything "valuable".

>> No.9816428

>shiny satin
>lolita fashion
pick one

>> No.9816431

While I do think these shoes aren't quite suitable for lolita, there is such a thing as nice satin. Not all satin is shit tier ebay/milanoo, just like not all 100% cotton fabrics are necessarily good quality.

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>specifically with lolitas in mind

>> No.9816434

And some fabrics just aren't suitable for lolita, such as satin

>> No.9816459

This is objectively wrong. I can see pleather not being suitable for a lolita dress, but satin is perfectly respectable. Brands use it frequently.

>> No.9816471

>pleather not being suitable for a lolita dress
Friend both Meta and Moitie would like a word with you.

>> No.9816473

True. I was just thinking of Meta right after I typed that, but Meta has always been one to use unconventional fabric. I had a dress that was almost... canvas-like?

>> No.9816476

Just because a brand has used it before doesn't make it perfect for lolita

>> No.9816483

>moving goalposts

>> No.9816486

Well anon, my emphasis was on shiny satin. Of course there are better satin fabrics (that are a little more muted but still shiny overall), and even then you have to be an exceptionally good dresser to pull it off, so many people avoid it as a whole.

>> No.9816572

yes, it does. if a lolita brand makes a lolita dress that looks nice from an uncommon fabric, like say corduroy, then that fabric is perfect for lolita.

Shantung is another example of a gorgeous fabric that is rarely used but works nicely.

anyway, these shoes >>9815605 suck
and whoever came in here to shill them should be ashamed. AD has made other shoes that are much better. I don't even think Fanny could make these work. the bows are wonky as heck and it's good that they are removable but still.

>> No.9816584
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Boz's new release of their Roland, now in rose-patterned fabric.

>> No.9816585
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>> No.9816595

Quality satin isn’t some obscure weird fabric that meta put out once, it’s something that gothic brands regularly use. It’s beautiful, elegant and gives dimension to a lot of the simple and often monochromatic styles used in gothic. It’s right up there with brocade and velvet as far as fabrics used to give interest... I suggest you spend 20 minutes learning about the fashion before saying dumb shit

>> No.9816602

They delayed it to 3.16. it better be functional

>> No.9816610

all my this.

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I see no difference.

>> No.9816630

Anons who complain about satin and shininess tend to be oldfags who can't get over the fact that not everything is solid cotton now

>> No.9816694

nah, old school has so much variety.
It's more likely than not Johnny-come-latelys that are only versed in the academic or maidenly styles, like certain flavors of sweet and classic, or perhaps also otome and casual-friends.

people forget that lolita is actually a pretty wild alternative fashion. there's a lot of cool stuff under the umbrella and we're not all MM clones
>not knocking MM or any elegant country simplicity. I love all flavors

>> No.9816722

Were you actually around at that time? People were paranoid about newbies making dresses with unsuitable fabrics such as satin.

>> No.9816744

Anon, I have that skirt in black the buttons are fabric covered too

>> No.9816774

anon, newbies, and newbie handmade at that, is always a worry.
we are talking about brands here.

Satin is not an unsuitable fabric, especially not for experienced designers. fabric variety is definitely welcome in the chiffon sea we're wading in right now.

I want to clarify that I am talking about main pieces and accessories in lolita, not those awful AD shoes

>> No.9816779

And I want to clarify I'm talking about the person who is complaining about satin. Sounds like the bitter oldfags from my comm.

>> No.9816961
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Why is Kerastyle quality so low?

>> No.9817034

>opens image
>oh this is cute-
>scrolls down and sees the legwear
So close.

>> No.9817051

I want the op! It’s so darn cute!

>> No.9817063

A Chinese lolita with no feedback bought an item of mine on Lacemarket. Their Paypal address is random numbers. I don't know what else I can do except to ask them to gift me the payment.

Is it common for Chinese lolitas to scam using throwaway Paypals? Would Paypal protect me if I sold it to them with tracking?

>> No.9817068

Idk about paypal, but a lot of chinese people who don't feel comfortable with English have random strings of numbers as their usernames and emails for things, so I wouldn't say that part indicates a scam.

>> No.9817072

This is so racist lol I love it

>> No.9817073

Use tracking, it’ll save your ass.

Don’t sell it as gift

>> No.9817083

It applies to Paypal too, which uses an email as payment address. I don't think it's a scam or anything, but if anon wants to be protected, then ask the buyer to pay for tracking and cite them having no feedback as a reason.

>> No.9817086

Does it end with @qq.com? Chances are that's their cellphone number.

>> No.9817098

Man I'm really loving everything Baby's releasing this season. Pray for my wallet gulls.

>> No.9817104
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More of IW White. I don't usually go for OP but I do want this.

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>> No.9817204

how is it racist

>> No.9817220
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While looking through re-ri.net I found two pics of lolitas at Baby's Nagoya store a very long time ago. (Possibly early 2000's? Anyone know when that store opened?) Not sure what thread they'd be most appropriate for, so I thought I'd share them here.

>> No.9817222
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No idea why they're doing this weird petti thing, but they look like they're having fun. Just thought these pics were cute and worth sharing.

>> No.9817257
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I really want a chemise a la reine inspired dress. Is there any indie brand that has anything like this?

>> No.9817260

This is so cute. I love this. Thank you for sharing, anon.

>> No.9817267
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Sheglit's Sirenetta Tiered OP is pretty good

>> No.9817269

Is it cheaper to ship by weight or by flat rate box when using USPS to ship from the US to Europe? Assuming I'm shipping something like a JSK. I couldn't really find a specific answer from google sorry.

>> No.9817278

"flat rate" does not apply to international shipping if you use a USPS flat rate box. Get your own box and then USPS will weigh it and go over the shipping options and costs. You can also take the box to USPS and FedEx and get quotes.

Don't use a priority flat-rate box for international shipping.

>> No.9817280

>to USPS and FedEx

Should have said to *UPS

>> No.9817281

Idk anon, it'd probably be pretty expensive tho. After all, a dress like that would take years and years of research to make

>> No.9817282

A girl who turned out to be a scammer made one, I think. Vivcore, right?

>> No.9817283
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Yes, she did.

>> No.9817284

By weight, generally. First class international packages to certain countries (UK for sure) does include tracking.

>> No.9817285

Flat rate does apply to international shipments, it's just a different price schedule than domestic.

If it's a JSK, wrap it in whatever you're going to, then take it to the post office and discuss your options. Don't buy packing materials beforehand.
Generally weight will be cheaper, but the flat rate padded envelopes can be a good deal for lighter things and heavier items can ship cheaper flat rate.

>> No.9817286

Been a week since I sent a LM payment and the messages on LM I sent to the seller are all marked as Unread and I've received no seller message since the initial purchase. Now what?

>> No.9817289
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I see what you did there

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Miscy (her current brand is The Black Ribbon) made one way back in the day. You could commission her, I bet she'd do a much better job now. She has improved a lot since she made this.

>> No.9817338

>how v. dare you
The Boz coat clearly looks more tye dye than camo, anon.

>> No.9817425
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More organza and polyester. How did you know. This is exactly what we wanted AP.

>> No.9817435

Aw the apron for the op is adorable. It doesn’t look like it’s detachable.. I wonder if it is.

>> No.9817438

Fuck my entire life, I gotta get at least two of these. Not sure which colorways to choose though!

>> No.9817442

I’ve been saving so much money because they keep releasing taobao like prints and using shit tier polyester

>> No.9817444

Looks to me like there are buttons on either side of the bow making it detachable. But then you'll have no bow in the front which makes it look weird imo.

>> No.9817658

i do wish this was in a different material but it still looks super cute! i might snag the op just for the cute little apron

>> No.9817664

Referring to Chinese people as a group ever is racist.

>> No.9817694

Try Classical Puppets, I think they had something similar to this not long ago?

>> No.9817711

Distrusting a buyer because she's a different race

>> No.9817712


Anon is distrusting because of the shady circumstances, p sure she mentioned that the girl was chinese for the sole factor of asking if this was normal *among Chinese lolitas, since it's a whole other country with a multitude of cultural differences and there might be a legit reason why her profile is strange.

But please keep calling racism.

>> No.9817719

I'm pretty sure >>9817072 is a racist herself. But I do wonder why anon is expecting to be scammed just because the buyer has no feedback and an unusual PayPal address.

>> No.9817724

Because anyone with desk job at any company ever has gotten an email from [email protected] with a .exe file attached and the only thing in the subject line is "INVOICE"

>> No.9817725

This is a girl she's been communicating with

>> No.9817727
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IW will have some items up for reservation tomorrow.

>> No.9817730

Is it? Anon only said that this person bought an item of hers, which could just mean she clicked “buy” and then sent her the PayPal adress which would be easy enough for a bot to do. I don’t blame her for being wary.

>> No.9817733

PayPal doesn't protect anyone besides creditcard companies

>> No.9817735

Whoa, the same thing just happened to me. Does the username start with an E? And like other anon asked, was the email @qq.com? I'm always apprehensive about selling to zero feedback people but I didn't think it was that big of a deal. I just invoiced her like I do with everyone else and she paid pretty fast. No response and my message to her is still "unread" but that's nothing new.

>> No.9817767

Be sure to get the package tracked AND insured, and don’t send it to any address other that what is on the Paypal account

>> No.9817771
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No, distrusting a seller because of scam red flags. Is it also racist to not give your credit card number over the phone to an Indian "tech specialist" calling about your damaged windows installation?
>Oh geeze, this is most likely a scam. But it'd be racist if I thought that. I'm sure he's legit and just happens to be Indian.

>> No.9817773

Why is it that when I use lacemarket on mobile I can use the search bar straight away, but when I use it on desktop it only appears once I go into a specific category?

>> No.9817774

No that would be retarded. Thinking someone is trying to scam you just because they have numbers in their paypal address is paranoid.

>> No.9817782

Sleeves are hard.

>> No.9817797

I love the bodice

>> No.9817798

If you're willing to go 'Chinese indie brand', Surfacespell gothic does custom. Seconding AtP - my bust is 38cm over my waist and their shirred blouses fit my baby-nursing cow tits.

>> No.9817800

Oh, shut up.

>> No.9817803

The boleros are made from cutsew material and there's a fair bit of stretch.

>> No.9817806

That's because that op IS ugly as sin.

>> No.9817858

D'aww, these are cute! I want to go hang around in brand stores with a lolita friend too!

>> No.9817863

Anon that's a skirt and blouse…

>> No.9817872
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it's beautiful

>> No.9817874

You don't even have to send your PayPal, it's listed on the listing after you hit buy it now /win the auction. How do people still not know this.

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Ugh I love this but I don’t think either size would work for me. At 37cm shoulders, 85cm bust and 65cm waist, should I just pass on this one and wait for a release with back shirring and corset lacing?
I wish I could shrink my shoulders.

>> No.9817876

This is really cute.

>> No.9817878

So they didn’t really communicate at all.

>> No.9817880

>no S

>> No.9817888

Anon, do you own other IW you could compare to? From experience, IW's stated shoulder length tend to be closer to one's pit to pit measurement. I'm at the max shoulder length for VM blouses (39 cm as VM's website stated), but I fit IW's M very comfortably.

>> No.9817893

>tfw when you'll never be able to get one of 3F's huge magnificent older hats and no one else makes anything similar that isn't a shitty straw costume hat, so you start getting into millinery

>> No.9817894

The other White items don’t have an S either. Maybe that’s partly how they save on costs.

I don’t have any IW OPs but I have some of their blouses in L/37, which fit perfectly in the shoulders. I worry that if I go down a few cm I won’t be able to move my arms comfortably.

>> No.9817895

That's really unfortunate. I'd say go for it if you can afford it, though!

>> No.9817926

I hope it comes out with cute jewelry.

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>Baby releasing wrong cut of one of my dream dresses
Did anyone even want the Gloria OP? It's always the JSKs that seem to sell big.

>> No.9817965

Hi everyone. Eh, I'm not sure if I'm in the right thread but there's this: I'm new to this and I haven't even bought my first outfit (I'm working on it, but it's really hard to find the dress and accesoires that I like and fit me as well). Do you guys have any tips & tricks or recommendations for a newbie? I really don't want to be one of those people to turn up in those threads with the bad coords.

>> No.9817972

This is such a vague question. Is there anything specific you want to know?

My tip: a decent petti should be your first priority to buy over anything else, even dresses.

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>> No.9817989

Telling people to buy pettis before buying their first dress is how people end up with a petti the wrong shape and length for the dresses that they afterwards decide to buy

>> No.9818008
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Antique Beast is open.

>> No.9818020

Lurk here for 3-4 months before posting again. Trust me, you'll learn everything you need in that time without getting ragged on. If you do need to find a place to post in the meantime while in the lurker period, post on one of the FB help groups. They aren't the best but you can combine what you observe from cgl with what you get from there to get some really good pearls of wisdom.
Also what >>9817972 said. Petti first, everything else later.

>> No.9818037

I feel you anon. I was going to order too until I saw they didn't have my size.

>> No.9818039

To remedy this, first put aside money for a decent petti. Budget for it, maybe 60 dollars. Then buy your first dress, something you fall in love with that fits you well. Now you know what kind of petti you need, and you can use the money you set aside to get a petti that looks and feels great.

>> No.9818057

Seconding lurking, that's how I got myself together before posting anywhere. Also feel free to ask questions in the stupid questions thread, no one can get mad at you for asking stuff there, just maybe don't question dump and just ask a thing here and there. Hell, I've been into the fashion for a few years now and still sometimes ask stuff in stupid questions because it's just something I never heard about or I'm very uncertain of.

I think only other recommendation I'd give other than lurk is to make sure you're not doing an overly themed or costume-y first coord. If you're trying to get into the fashion overall try to aim for items that will be easily used with other clothes and are more universal than, say, buying madonna crowns and giant veils or cake hats, etc. I'm not going to dictate what kind of dresses you should buy as beauty is in the eye of the beholder but really don't try OTT first thing.

>> No.9818067

Anyone have any experience with Antique Beast's sizing? They have most dresses listed as 85 bust, 65 waist and I'm like ~2-3 cm under those measurements but worried it'll be too small.

>> No.9818074

I got one of their skirts listed as 63cm and my waist is 61cm and it fits perfectly with a little bit of room.

>> No.9818091


I always figure it's the chinese lolitas going for that cut.

Same mystery with AP, they keep doing these babydoll dresses. I figure if westerners aren't buying them then it must be either the Japanese or Chinese lolitas

>> No.9818093

Don't post your coords online then

>> No.9818095

They've done custom sizing for me before though that was last year

>> No.9818109
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Is going to paradiso solo a mistake?
I figure people go in pairs or groups, so I assume most people wouldn't want me to just butt in and try and hang out with them.
worried I'd just be wandering around alone the whole weekend.

>> No.9818114

I going with some people, but I'm sure we'll be splitting up at times. I'd love to meet some other gulls while there if you want to meet up!

>> No.9818129

New thread: >>9818128

>> No.9818198

You forgot
>No feedback account
>From a different country so chances of winning dispute is lowered

Multiple flags lead to the conclusion. An Indian calling you isn't suspicious in itself. An Indian calling you for a tech issue is a little sis. When they ask for card information, that's the last flag.

If the profile had positive feedback then Anon wouldn't care. It isn't the Chinese part alone throwing off their judgement, it's a combination of multiple small flags.

>> No.9818209

They will do custom for you, up to 5 or so cm I think. It says on the website, or check the archives. I know it's well under 10cm because I'm a marshmallow.

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a pic semi related..

>> No.9819905

Is there any hope of getting that headdress secondhand without scalper prices?

It was gone within minutes on both sites.
Also, is ti just me or did they not release the socks?

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