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Lolita General - Almost Spring Edition Anonymous Mon Mar 5 22:47:22 2018 No.9807734 [Reply] [Original]

Last thread >>9803050

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 5 22:51:41 2018 No.9807741 File: 479 KB, 480x640, B42OP308-e.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] As part of their 30th Anniversary series, BtSSB is re-releasing the Elizabeth OP and headdress in red. Are there any other dresses or items you're hoping to see, gulls?

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 5 22:59:23 2018 No.9807745 >>9807741 When??

Anonymous Mon Mar 5 23:14:20 2018 No.9807761

>>9807741
I just still don't understand why they bothered rereleasing End of Immortal Eden and not doing it in green - hell, I'm pretty sure red is more popular than navy/black too and not even that color got chosen. Why rerelease if it isn't to fill a demand and lower secondhand prices. Mildly salty about this.

Otherwise, I'm just pretty hype about IW White. I'm really curious how the new bustier matches up to the old ones when it's half the price.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 5 23:16:35 2018 No.9807764 >>9807734 After seeing the Sweet Lacy Basket OP up close I wish I got it, but I'm still satisfied with the JSK cut for now.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 5 23:19:26 2018 No.9807767 >>9807741 >>9807745 http://www.babyssb.co.jp/onlinestore/b42op308/

Anonymous Mon Mar 5 23:34:09 2018 No.9807781

>>9807734
This print is really pretty and nicely done IMO compared to some of their past releases from the past year or two. Halloween Treats was also pretty good. I hope this means they're turning a new leaf this year and will come out with better prints because for awhile there AP was coming out with some pretty lackluster stuff.

Anonymous Mon Mar 5 23:59:36 2018 No.9807805
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I was eyeing IW's new blouse on reservation and noticed the skirt is unfamiliar - I wonder if it's a new print that will be announced soon. Looks really nice and simple with typography. Unless I'm really dumb and this is an old release.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 6 00:11:55 2018 No.9807810 Anyone know when Lolibrary will be back up? I didn’t realise how much I used it until it was down

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 6 00:20:07 2018 No.9807817 >>9807810 check their facebook

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 6 00:21:44 2018 No.9807821 >>9807805 Axes Femme 2.0

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 6 00:29:41 2018 No.9807832 >>9807805 I thought this might be their newest teddy bear print but nope, the typography on that one is different. It likely is a new print.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 6 02:23:15 2018 No.9807930 File: 17 KB, 401x401, 16024747.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9807734 >rubbing it into my face that I've missed Sweet Lacy Basket

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 6 02:47:42 2018 No.9807944 >>9807930 I think it's still available in store if you contact an SS. If you don't have a ss, I recomend muuh tokyo ss on facebook she just got me a 60% off OP that i thought was long gone.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 6 02:50:31 2018 No.9807946 >>9807930 It’s in stock on the AP usa site

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 6 03:10:18 2018 No.9807953 Just bought a ton of jewelry on final sale at AP for cheap. Feels good.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 6 03:11:50 2018 No.9807954 >>9807946 >>9807944 yiisssss thanks for that >I can continue eating beans for breakfast lunch and dinner no worries

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 6 04:24:26 2018 No.9807992 >>9807734 This art is so beautiful but the actual real-life dress looks kind of messy to me. I wonder what it is that makes it work so much better in artwork.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 6 05:21:54 2018 No.9808014 What's a decent price to pay for a Roland? I've been sweeping mercari looking for one, but I'm not sure how much I should be paying.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 6 05:48:43 2018 No.9808025 >>9808014 Value doesn't really go down much, so usually expect to pay between 20-30k, if you see anything cheaper, they're snapped up fast. If it's a rare colorway or limited release like an Eternity Roland it will still go for 35k+.

Anonymous Tue Mar 6 05:48:46 2018 No.9808026

>>9807992
Anon, you just read my thoughts! I came right to say how much prettier it looks as an artwork. Tbh, I'm not a fan of whole series, it looks low key Romantic Little Garden like, but less detailed.
Idk, the girl from artwork is unrealistically skinny and tall. Also her petty is perfectly shaped, which is rare irl.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 6 05:51:50 2018 No.9808030 >>9808026 For once, AP releases a dress that might be cuter on tall girls... >Who am I kidding, it will be sized for short fatties like usual

Anonymous Tue Mar 6 06:21:52 2018 No.9808050

>>9807810
Reposting this from a very kind anon in the gingham/tartan thread:

>You can still get to google's cached version of lolibrary, just pop the dress name + lolibrary into the google, then click the little arrow instead of the link, and click on "cache".

>https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:jtJN_dQi2j4J:https://lolibrary.org/items/btssb-my-anniversary-tartan-check-ribbon-op+&cd=2&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=my

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 6 06:22:06 2018 No.9808051 >>9807805 That's so boring. You could buy a shirt like that off any girly taobao store. It would be fine for IW White I guess, but it looks ugly compared to normal IW

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 6 06:40:10 2018 No.9808063 >>9808051 Anon, you don't even see the whole skirt, don't judge it yet.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 6 06:43:13 2018 No.9808065 >>9808063 Oh the skirt is probably going to be cute! It's the shirt that looks boring

Anonymous Tue Mar 6 08:42:15 2018 No.9808131

>>9808051
look (with your new eyes) at the delicate puff shoulder, and that little pompom trim.
that's also top tier chiffon, smooth, liquid and not stiff/scratchy.
can't get this from taobao anon. there's some good runner up blouses by dear celine and others...but IW is the top. anything comparable from tb would be awkwardly loosely fitted, particularly around the waist and upper arms. this blouse's sleeves are fitted around the upper arm but bell around the elbow. very flattering. no tb is going to think to do that, sorry 'bout it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 6 09:01:13 2018 No.9808140 >>9808131 Yeah, but it's still not worth over 100 dollars.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 6 09:45:54 2018 No.9808176 >>9808140 >not understanding how much people are willing to pay for j-fashion newfag lurk more

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 6 09:50:39 2018 No.9808183 >>9808176 > not understanding how overstocked lolita market works Not even newfag, just retarded

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 6 10:08:51 2018 No.9808194 >>9808140 Speak for yourself, this blouse is cute as fuck and I’d rather get this look from IW where I know it will be quality then a cheap blouse that will fall apart after a few wears from taobao or a himekaji brand

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 6 10:15:36 2018 No.9808201 >>9808131 It really looks like any axes femme or ank rouge blouse. Which are way cheaper and not bad quality

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 6 10:20:09 2018 No.9808204 >>9808201 I own a lot of Axes, and you are drunk if you think they are the same quality as IW. Frankly, Axes is one step away from Lolita Walmart.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 6 10:35:50 2018 No.9808217 >>9808204 I didn't say same, tho. I said they aren't bad.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 6 11:08:14 2018 No.9808241 >>9808194 I have a ton of blouses from taobao and none have fallen apart. Not sure where you're getting that from...

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 6 11:09:35 2018 No.9808243 >>9808204 You just sound like some obsessive IW fangirl foaming at the mouth. Other brands have good quality too.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 6 11:11:55 2018 No.9808244 >>9808131 I know you love IW, but that shit looks like the first five pages of taobao if you search lolita blouses. Stop being delusional

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 6 11:23:35 2018 No.9808258 >>9807741 >red Baby, why is it always red? Give me fucking blackxblack goddammit.

Anonymous Tue Mar 6 11:31:59 2018 No.9808269

>>9808243
NAYRT but I am an IW fangirl and wanted to mention that two blouses in size L just went up on WW (black and bordeux). Not my size but IW blouses go really quick so maybe a gull can get lucky and snag them.

I won't say my IW blouses are any better quality than my AaTP blouses, but they are extremely well made; better than any taobao brand for sure. I personally can't justify spending $100+ on a blouse alone but I'm happy to drop $70-80 on one second hand when the opportunity arises.

Anonymous Tue Mar 6 13:16:49 2018 No.9808366

>>9808204
Amen to that. The more AF I've bought over time the more I've just gone back and started scouring more secondhand brand blouses. It seems like there are some older AF items that may be nicer but it's more work than it's worth to hunt stuff like that down.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 6 13:18:17 2018 No.9808368 >>9808366 AF has really good deals though. I got everything I have from them for less than 2000 yen.

Anonymous Tue Mar 6 13:37:17 2018 No.9808378

>>9808368
IW also have really good deals? Not only with secondhand but they very frequently have sales on their blouses sometimes even knocking them below ¥5000 for a brand new one. I kind of hope that if the new White label has prices that the quality doesn't drop too much even if the prices do.

Not saying Axes is the worst as they're perfectly okay, I'm just one of the people that also really likes IW blouses, best ones I've ever owned between multiple brands, and luckily with them you can shop smart due to their numerous sales.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 6 13:54:54 2018 No.9808391 >all these tasteless newbies >b-b-but taobao is totes just as good as brand!! Please step up your game, gulls, you're only stifling your own growth and wasting your money.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 6 13:56:05 2018 No.9808392 >>9808391 >being this salty that your favorite brand put out a taobao tier design bawwwwwwwwwwwwww

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 6 14:09:22 2018 No.9808406 >>9808204 I agree. I love AF for daily wear and it makes up most of my daily wardrobe, but it’s clearly much lower quality than IW and other lolita brands.

Anonymous Tue Mar 6 14:11:12 2018 No.9808408

>>9808392
are you an OTT only conlita?
just because the design may look simple and easy to wear doesn't mean that the construction and material are subpar.
I'm >>9808131 and I hope you don't learn the hard way what distinguishes brand's experienced craftsmanship from the limited detailing available from some dime-a-dozen TB shop.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 6 14:13:07 2018 No.9808410 >>9808392 I hope you don’t own anything by RPA.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 6 14:32:28 2018 No.9808428 >>9808378 Okay so when does IW have blouses and cardigans for less than 2000 yen? I'm not talking about the secondhand market. I don't usually follow IW sales because of their fit (I'd have to alter it).

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 6 14:43:03 2018 No.9808436 >>9808428 nayrt, but they have seasonal sales that include all unsold stock at really good discounts tried to search for the most recent winter announcement in lolitaupdates but the search function is broken. FB sucks balls in general, what's new?

Anonymous Tue Mar 6 14:46:35 2018 No.9808439

>>9808428
Here’s the thing, some people value quality more than cheap price. I own both AF and IW and wear it daily, and I would always, in every situation buy IW if I can find the same fit and design. Paying more is fine. My AF, though cute, is hardly better quality than H&M. I’ve had sean’s rip, trim fall off, buttons break or fall apart, fabric fray and more from AF. I have never once had any of those issues with IW.

If you don’t wear jfashion regularly or don’t mind constantly rebuying your staples, you can totally go and buy a blouse like that from AF. However, given the choice a lot of us would rather make the investment once and have it for years to come.

Anonymous Tue Mar 6 14:46:42 2018 No.9808440
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>>9807805
I know IW makes gulls cum but this is a really disappointing release imo. It doesn't even come in S, same problem with their other blouse on rerserve. Their bust size has always been too big for me even with size S, but now I'd have to alter the waist and possibly the sleeves as well? Not worth it imo.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 6 14:50:29 2018 No.9808444 >>9808439 AF is not THAT bad anon.. You get what you pay for in both cases. AF does have a better fit for me than IW though so lol fuck me for not having cow tits I guess.

Anonymous Tue Mar 6 14:59:54 2018 No.9808451

>>9808444
why are you so bitter?
as someone who actually has what you'd call cow tits (you're a dick btw) IW was the first brand I ordered directly from when I started. I had to sell the blouse immediately when I got, because my bust is actually quite large, but it was such a gorgeous ivory blouse. soft chiffon, lovely pintucks; I was so happy I got to see and feel it in person, even if I couldn't wear it.

I wish IW was the "cow-tit" brand, but it isn't. We're talking about quality and design here, not sizing so maybe yourself into a discussion that's more relevant to your experience?

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 6 15:05:50 2018 No.9808459 >>9808451 Because I would've bought >>9807805 in pink if it came in S. I don't want to buy something I have to alter so much for this price.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 6 15:08:06 2018 No.9808462 >>9808451 Also I just read the entire thread again because your >so maybe yourself into a discussion that's more relevant to your experience confused me. But >>9808368 is just talking about good deals, not quality, and >>9808439 brought up fit.

Anonymous Tue Mar 6 15:10:27 2018 No.9808464

>>9808444
>fuck me for not having cow tits I guess
>b cup is now cow tits
>what is perspective
IW may have comfortably large bust measurements but their designs don't actually accommodate breasts bigger than b cup, boobloaf is a huge problem with them even for people who are well within their measurements.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 6 15:17:02 2018 No.9808472 >>9808464 I guess to me 100cm is huge, that's my perspective. B cup literally doesn't mean anything on a cambodian bird breeding board though, that could be anything.

Anonymous Tue Mar 6 15:20:34 2018 No.9808475

>>9808472
It is a large measurement but it's mostly common in their shirred pieces or L sizes, it's nowhere near the standard. Their M size typically goes up to 95cm in the bust and fit up to 92cm busts comfortably, anything below that can also fit and look just fine, most of the time.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 6 15:22:36 2018 No.9808476 >>9808475 If you wear JSKs. If you're well below the blouse measurements I really don't recommend you wear them with skirts.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 6 15:27:15 2018 No.9808483 >>9808476 ??? My bust measurement is 88cm and I wear my IW blouses with skirts and have no issue.

Anonymous Tue Mar 6 15:34:29 2018 No.9808492

>>9808475
Can confirm - I’m 86/66 and IW M is always a comfy but not too loose fit in dresses and blouses, I’ve never bought S because while I’m technically below measurements on those I’m worried it would result in the button over my chest coming undone or peeking. To anons yelling B cup versus cow tits they just carry an average size imo.

>>9808476
Same confusion as other anon, skirts look fine with me - what’s your definition of under in this case? Like really far under?

Anonymous Tue Mar 6 15:35:06 2018 No.9808494

>>9808410
RPA is also taobao tier in both quality and design at brand prices, hell no.

>>9808408
>construction
>material
Maybe your love for IW is blinding you because none of that changes the fact that it's a taobao tier design. Must suck when your favorite brand runs out of ideas that you have to defend them this hard.

Anonymous Tue Mar 6 15:57:22 2018 No.9808528

>>9808131
I agree with you, anon. I don’t think some of these anons have bought an IW blouse with how they’re talking. IW blouses are the best of any brand and are just soft, don’t wrinkle, and fit amazing. You’d be surprised of the poorfags in lolita that will just buy expensive main pieces, then have like one taobao blouse or thrift store vintage blouse they use for everything. The concept of even buying a nice brand blouse is something they’re incapable of.

Anonymous Tue Mar 6 16:06:38 2018 No.9808537
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Lolita Confessions: I use the skinny tool in photo editing apps to make my petticoat bigger and fatter and fluffier then it is, rather then making myself skinnier.

Anonymous Tue Mar 6 16:09:43 2018 No.9808541

>>9808476
I have an IW size L blouse from when I just started lolita, I've lost quite a bit of weight since and would now technically fit into one of their S sizes, but the L blouse still looks good on me and is comfy. As long as it has waist ties I really don't think a blouse being too big is a huge issue.

Anonymous Tue Mar 6 16:14:46 2018 No.9808551

>>9808368
Yeah, you really do get what you pay for. While I've never had the issues that >>9808439 has had because I don't daily that side of jfash, even the handful of times I've worn/washed AF there's a noticeable difference in how the wear and tear affects what the item looks like over time in comparison to brand.

If you look at the material breakdown on most AF items, they use a high amount of mixed synthetics which just doesn't hold up to daily wear like good cotton or cottonpoly or 100% acrylic/polyester/etc does. The mixed materials yield that nice floaty drape that marks the brand's look but the cost is that they simply don't hold up well.

I mean, I completely admit that I was telling myself that AF was better than f21 or h&m when I first started buying it but shit, it really isn't that far removed.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 6 16:25:16 2018 No.9808565 >>9808537 I do this too. I've found that making my petticoat bigger makes me look skinnier too.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 6 17:14:52 2018 No.9808613 >>9808537 >>9808565 wow yet another unrealistic petti standards........

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 6 17:22:59 2018 No.9808622 >>9808464 I have DD's and some IW is really flattering. I think at 100cm, one's cup size is not a B and the person suffers from sister sizing delusions.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 6 17:25:57 2018 No.9808624 >>9808613 Why? I do this too. Mostly because my photos are taken half way through the day when my petticoat has deflated quite a bit allready.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 6 17:28:16 2018 No.9808625 >>9808624 Nayrt but I'm sure they're joking

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 6 17:40:31 2018 No.9808637 >>9808624 >wearing a petticoat that deflates during the day Pls love yourself

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 6 17:58:04 2018 No.9808654 >>9808391 I'm convinced it's just some bitter newfags that actually believe their own lies that "taobao is better!!". IW is god tier for brand blouses and if anyone says otherwise they're too fucking new for lolita.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 6 18:00:56 2018 No.9808657 >>9808654 Nobody in this thread has said anything like that. Sorry not everyone is riding IW Dick so hard as some of you.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 6 18:02:31 2018 No.9808659 What would you do with the top part of a dress you made into a skirt?

Anonymous Tue Mar 6 18:06:37 2018 No.9808661
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>>9808551

Not only that, but Axes Femme has a tendency to put unneeded and odd details on their items, particularly their blouses. Have a lacy high neck blouse? Add some raschel lace. A peter pan short sleeved blouse? Let's add pearls, an awkwardly placed pseudo necklace, and raschel lace. A cutsew turtleneck? Lace on top of lace, and more raschel lace.

I have a ton of Axes Femme so I don't mean to rag on them this much, but sometimes they've got very questionable designs that can make it look cheap. No wonder AF is associated with anime club princesses.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 6 18:06:42 2018 No.9808662 >>9808528 >>9808654 Please clear the IW semen from your eyes and read the damn replies you're complaining about.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 6 18:09:23 2018 No.9808668 >>9808659 Make headwear duh

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 6 18:10:33 2018 No.9808669 >>9808140 >brand blouses need to be under 100 or they're not worth it >it reminds me of ank rouge and girly taobao blouses, therefore it's the same quality! Holy shit. That's fucking hilarious. Are you really that new or are you just stupid?

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 6 18:14:20 2018 No.9808675 >>9808659 Use part of the bodice as pockets. Salvage fournitures to embelish something else.

Anonymous Tue Mar 6 19:07:03 2018 No.9808725

>>9808622
underbust could be broad anon.
>>9808661
I agree. they have some questionable color choices and quirky detailing that attracts me, in an out-there, mod, otome way, but the cutsews I love don't always work with the style I'm going for. love them on their own but I sometimes wish some of the embellishments were dialed back, or else spread out for balance. like the wrists are always so plain compared to these heavily laced necks and collars!
I still love my AF stuff for coming in fleecy materials and having cute designs that I can't find in the U.S.

stuff on ModCloth or from Anthropologie often has the wrong neckline and shape for lolita.

Anonymous Tue Mar 6 19:11:39 2018 No.9808730

>>9808725

Yeah, I agree with you. As extra as some of their designs are, AF still beats out Modcloth or other 'quirky' stores in the US for otome specific styling. It doesn't hurt the wallet quite as much as IW either, so as much as I love brand blouses, Axes Femme (especially secondhand Axes Femme) for all its faults does the trick and I'm okay with that.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 6 19:12:52 2018 No.9808731 >>9808725 >underbust could be broad anon Uh, what? I was taking about blouses and OPs, but I didn't specifically mention anything in my post. Where'd you get underbusts from when that's not what's being discussed here?

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 6 19:19:49 2018 No.9808737 >>9808451 How fat are you? I have 96 cm bust and some iw size L blouses that fit

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 6 20:35:46 2018 No.9808784 >>9807930 I love it too but I'm waiting for secondhand! I'm still not sure if I want the OP or JSK, so I wasn't ready at the release

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 6 21:23:23 2018 No.9808820 >>9808731 I think that anon meant it is quite possible to have 100cm bust and and be a B cup if they have a large underbust, since thats how bust sizes work.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 6 21:24:37 2018 No.9808821 >>9808258 I want the pink variation so I feel you anon

Anonymous Tue Mar 6 21:42:14 2018 No.9808842
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>>9808737
>How fat are you?
p. fat, but especially busty. 118cm bust/97cm waist/120cm hips/180cm tall
the boobs will be the last to go as I slim down. giant boobs are on both sides of my family.
it's the fully shirred, cutsew, and custom made blouse-life for me. it's not bad though

>pic not related

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 6 21:46:36 2018 No.9808846 >>9808842 fml, boobs are the first to go find for me

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 6 22:29:44 2018 No.9808906 >>9808669 Are you straining yourself reaching that hard?

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 6 23:11:47 2018 No.9808932 >>9808820 oH, They meant the anon could be a barrel chested ham, got it.

Anonymous Tue Mar 6 23:14:17 2018 No.9808934

>>9808932
I got too excited to throw some shade..
My original point was that they probably got told they're a B but they're not.
It's possible they have the most unfortunate body shape possible, but since most women don't know their proper sizing, I went for the answer that was less of a stretch.

Anonymous Tue Mar 6 23:54:03 2018 No.9808971

>>9808842
Oh man, Anon. That sucks. Glad you are at least able to find custom stuff to fit. I am right at fitting into some unshirred pieces and it's a good feeling, I hate the look of shirring. But it's really, really hard to find my size unshirred, only IW and Meta have released it afaik

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 7 01:17:03 2018 No.9809007 >>9808842 >waist bigger than the bust on most brands anon, your tits are the least of your problems. you're just fat.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 7 03:08:42 2018 No.9809063 >>9808622 I have DDs too (okay, stretching it, they've settled to more of a D cup now) and I'm easily below their S measurement when will gulls learn to post band sizes with their cups

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 7 03:10:31 2018 No.9809066 >>9809063 >>9808622 Cup sizes are meaningless in lolita fashion and are different depending on where you live so stfu and stay on topic

Anonymous Wed Mar 7 04:25:04 2018 No.9809084

>>9808842

Oh. You're the one that mentioned being close to 100cm waist and being shaped like a guitar and people not clocking your size because you dress well? I wondered whether you typoed that measurement.

Is there any chance you feel brave enough to selfpost? Maybe block out the background and your face if you don't want to be identified. Fellow fatty looking for inspo here.

Anonymous Wed Mar 7 04:51:30 2018 No.9809094

>>9809066
are you retarded or just pretending to be? I *literally just* called out other anon for not adding band size to cup size, though I agree actual number measurements would be even better

how do y'all deal with your style and tastes changing over time? I'm finding that I'm slipping more and more away from grandma's sofa kei and into jewel tone solids, but I feel like I'm betraying my first MM loves (not that I could afford them in the near future anyway).

Anonymous Wed Mar 7 05:01:33 2018 No.9809097

>>9809094
There's not much to "deal" with imo, minus the aspect of selling old stuff I don't like anymore and handling the costs of buying new things.
In a way it is a bit sad to outgrow something you used to love but I feel that replacing it with something else that you love right now, is worth it.

Anonymous Wed Mar 7 05:31:11 2018 No.9809106

>>9809097
For me it feels awkward to maintain multy brand wardrobe. I've always been more Baby girl, I almost identify myself with that princessy concept. But when I see some cute things from IW, AP or even taobao, it's so weird. Buying from them feels bad, because it's like not me anymore.

Anonymous Wed Mar 7 05:43:08 2018 No.9809110

>>9809106
Ah, brand loyalty. I get what you mean in a way, every brand has its own way of doing things and its own choice of materials and design, and it's easy to have preferences when it comes to specific brands' images.
Either try another brand's pieces to see what they're like, maybe you'll like them too and if anything you get to expand your wardrobe and your taste; or stick to Baby and appreciate other brands from afar, without wearing them yourself. You can think something is cute or beautiful without wanting to wear it yourself, you know.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 7 06:03:17 2018 No.9809119 When is lolibrary supposed to be up again? For some reason I thought it was only down for the weekend.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 7 06:22:57 2018 No.9809130 >>9809094 Band and cup sizes are not the exact same everywhere, it can even fit different depending on brand

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 7 06:30:53 2018 No.9809136 File: 145 KB, 595x842, DXqOyo1X0AAjgdU.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] The red colorway makes me sad

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 7 06:49:14 2018 No.9809144 >>9809119 it was supposed to only be the weekend but migration took longer than expected. Dev is currently doing some bug fixes so hopefully it should be back up today.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 7 06:54:04 2018 No.9809145 >>9809136 >no skirt I've never been this long without buying anything new

Anonymous Wed Mar 7 07:00:05 2018 No.9809147

>>9809119
I took Lolibrary down on Saturday (I'd had this planned and had free time this weekend), and got a call from my estate agent right after I'd went past the point of no return (since I'd removed the database servers after backing them up), with a property to look at on Sunday (I'm moving, I got a job, currently under a hard deadline to relocate), so I said yeah sure.

Kinda glad I did it, because the place was perfect, and I'm pretty close to signing the final agreement, but it did mean I had to travel all of Sunday.

I took the day off work today so I could finish Lolibrary off, and it's _almost_ ready to go live! (I give it an hour or two max).

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 7 07:08:09 2018 No.9809152 >>9809147 Congrats on the (almost) new place! And thanks for all your hard work on Lolibrary, it's good to hear it'll be back soon.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 7 07:10:55 2018 No.9809158 Does anyone know if Les Bourdons is still a thing. I've tried messaging them directly about their shoes but I haven't received anything

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 7 07:11:11 2018 No.9809159 >>9809094 It's ok, MM has some gorgeous jewel tone stuff. For me it just seemed like that was where my style was heading and it was fine, it's just a hassle selling and sometimes you get nostalgia with certain pieces.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 7 07:26:33 2018 No.9809167 >>9809147 Thank you for the update! Good luck with the move and congrats!

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 7 07:48:09 2018 No.9809181 >>9809158 Message choke herself, she is flakey

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 7 08:29:24 2018 No.9809207 >>9809158 They don't look good irl. Someone wore them to a meet recently and they looked costumey as fuck.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 7 09:28:17 2018 No.9809234 >>9809147 Thanks for all the hard work!! We appreciate it. And congrats on your new place!

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 7 09:33:02 2018 No.9809239 File: 50 KB, 720x376, 27021484_10159676534075315_6298251254698511538_o.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] So is this thing happening or is it a hoax? Who is organizing? Anyone of you gulls going?

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 7 09:36:43 2018 No.9809241 >>9809158 I have a pair and they are gorgeous plus super comfortable. However, as with anything that Choke manages, at this point I think she has given up on the brand

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 7 10:30:50 2018 No.9809267 >>9809241 >>9809181 Didn't realise it was managed by her. But I'll try directly asking her.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 7 10:36:12 2018 No.9809271 >>9809136 the JSK bodice is pretty short but at least the straps and detailing are cute. I want more structured, sturdy fabrics, like woven cotton and velveteen. I'm so over chiffon.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 7 10:45:19 2018 No.9809277 >>9809239 I'm really tempted to go, but I'm not a big JetJ fan...

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 7 10:47:26 2018 No.9809278 >>9809271 Same. The chiffon is the only reason I’m not getting it. I just prefer APs cotton prints so much more.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 7 10:56:56 2018 No.9809282 File: 377 KB, 480x640, B42JS210-p.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 7 11:02:25 2018 No.9809285 File: 388 KB, 480x640, B42JS210-07.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] This is going to look so flattering on me >>9809282

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 7 12:15:51 2018 No.9809333 So are there any places to get non-shit pleather bags appropriate for lolita? I don’t wear leather so I am always excited for brand bags but they get damaged so easily. Replicas hold up better but... replicas yeesh.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 7 12:20:53 2018 No.9809338 >>9809333 >pleather >long lasting pick one

Anonymous Wed Mar 7 12:22:27 2018 No.9809339
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>>9809333
>pleather
>not shit

Sorry anon, no matter what brand you buy no matter how expensive, pleather will peel, crack and fray. I recommend you look for knit/cloth purses instead. Coach and Isaac Mizrahi both put out bags like this regularly. Pic related is the material I'm talking about (I have the same print in a crossbody bag, not for lolita obv.).

I suggest you hunt your local TJ Maxx at least once a week for bags and I'm sure you'll find something suitable sooner than later. Pleather/vegan leather, no matter how "good" the brand, will look like shit eventually and is not worth the investment.

There was a really good thread ago about brand bag alternatives. Maybe you can dig it up in the archives - there were a lot of great suggestions (leather and non-leather) in that thread.

Anonymous Wed Mar 7 12:30:56 2018 No.9809346

>>9809333
Matt & Nat is nice "vegan" bag brand but like the other anon said, it'll peel/crack/fray, especially on the surfaces where it gets used a lot (ie. handles, bottoms of bags) - it would take regular months-years use however, proper care and the bag should look okay. On the other hand, I don't think their bags are lolita appropriate, but google it yourself.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 7 12:37:23 2018 No.9809353 >>9809333 How do replicas hold up better? Do you have examples?(pics) or are you just trolling?

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 7 12:54:10 2018 No.9809358 >>9809282 I love the bodice. I wish more stuff had sweetheart necklines in lolita

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 7 12:55:49 2018 No.9809361 >>9809358 I think it's too mature for lolita

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 7 13:03:01 2018 No.9809363 File: 36 KB, 345x437, 182201-m-01-dl.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9807805 The skirt is their new series!

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 7 13:04:05 2018 No.9809364 File: 19 KB, 345x437, 182201-s-03-dl.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9809363

Anonymous Wed Mar 7 13:04:21 2018 No.9809366

>>9809353
I'm guessing they mean the fact that replicas use a harder plastic faux leather, while brands tend to choose a more supple pleather that you need to be gentle with. Though it does vary by bag, and sometimes brand well use leather. I've had an older AP bag that was the harder pleather. Super durable and was already quite old, but still in excellent condition. I think to match the gentle fabrics trend, they are going with softer bags, but that's just a guess. If you want a daily bag, look for the harder pleathers, if it's a novelty bag, then it doesn't really matter. Personally I still wouldn't get the knock offs as the structure of the bag will not be up to par with brands even if the pleather itself can take a beating (the stitching, hardware, et cetera).

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 7 13:06:46 2018 No.9809368 >>9809364 So basically IW white is the same as IW but with lower production value

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 7 13:07:46 2018 No.9809369 >>9809363 >>9809364 Oh, cute! The lack of details makes me a bit sad though; no lace at all, just box pleats and a slightly longer length? Come on Fujiwara, give us the goods.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 7 13:10:56 2018 No.9809372 >>9809364 I think it was wrong to market this as a daily/casual brand. Would do better with lolitas on a budget.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 7 13:19:02 2018 No.9809381 >>9809369 Yeah...it's not going to be my favorite release from them, that's for sure. Cute though.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 7 14:21:18 2018 No.9809427 >>9808661 >No wonder AF is associated with anime club princesses. deets?

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 7 14:34:00 2018 No.9809434 >>9809361 Yeah, lolita fashion should look like children’s clothes!

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 7 14:34:32 2018 No.9809435 >>9809361 >what’s a blouse

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 7 14:39:25 2018 No.9809440 >>9809361 Age player plz

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 7 14:39:30 2018 No.9809441 >>9809427 Google otahime and just read the few threads from that day. No one want so to relive it, but it was interesting

>>	V Wed Mar 7 15:01:53 2018 No.9809454 I have an old school-ish baby blue with white lace jsk from Baby(from 2016/7 iirc). Would it ever work with a pink blouse? Too clashing? I want to order one of their peter pan blouses and pink is nice but... Idk. Can't picture it.

Anonymous Wed Mar 7 15:27:15 2018 No.9809478

>>9809440
omg I thought this meme was dead, haven't seen it here in a while but maybe I should stop by more often

>>9809435
>>9809434
I only meant most lolita designers seem to be inspired by european victorian/edwardian children still (whatever their idea is of that). Why do you think there are so many fairytale and teddy prints? Sweetheart necklines are traditionally more of a Woman thing. Not saying ALL lolita is influenced by historical children's fashion obviously bust just making a suggestion that that's maybe why it's not common in lolita.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 7 15:28:56 2018 No.9809481 >>9809454 Ummm...sax x pink is a pretty staple sweet lolita colour combination.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 7 15:29:27 2018 No.9809482 >>9809427 >>9809441 This was so silly. Otahime is literally a meme. Imagine Japanese people thinking 'the absolute madman' is a fashion.

>>	cgl.flyaway @ gmail.com Wed Mar 7 16:22:33 2018 No.9809534 >>9809478 just stop. there are several substyles of lolita and associated influences for each style. it may be a more youthful fashion than EGA but it's never been about children's wear. you're not even in the fashion so please. zip it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 7 16:27:38 2018 No.9809539 >>9809534 she isn't wrong. remove your email lol.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 7 16:29:50 2018 No.9809544 >>9809478 Sweetheart necklines are very common in classic. Are you only talking about sweet lolita?

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 7 16:31:35 2018 No.9809547 >>9809544 Name one classic lolita brand that has sweetheart neckline available right now

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 7 16:34:11 2018 No.9809548 >>9809544 I guess it depends on your perception on common. Imo if we're talking about lolita overall they're not common.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 7 16:34:33 2018 No.9809552 >>9809547 IW's British Crown Tuck Flare JSK (sold out a few weeks ago but was available up until that point).

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 7 16:35:35 2018 No.9809554 >>9809544 >>9809552 Oh the Rose Gather Flair JSK has one too.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 7 16:37:18 2018 No.9809556 >>9809547 VM's Rococo Bouquet Lacy Doll Dress mimics the sweetheart neckline. They frequently use that neckline anyway.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 7 16:37:49 2018 No.9809557 >>9809554 >>9809552 I mean, to me saying ''black colourways are common in lolita'' would be correct, whereas I wouldn't say ''short skirts are common in lolita'' just because most sweet brands have released them.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 7 16:43:20 2018 No.9809561 >>9809557 I guess we disagree on semantics then.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 7 16:45:07 2018 No.9809562 >>9809557 Then you should have made the distinction between commonly produced and commonly seen being worn.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 7 16:46:23 2018 No.9809563 >>9809562 You're right hope you're feeling better xx

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 7 16:53:21 2018 No.9809570 File: 20 KB, 242x244, cocona.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9809563 >hope you're feeling better xx y-you too...

Anonymous Wed Mar 7 17:04:58 2018 No.9809586

How far do AP tights stretch? The person I want to buy a pair from says their length was OK but they didn't stretch far enough in the thighs for her. I want to know if they'd fit me, but I don't want to be rude and ask for someone's thigh measurements...

Anonymous Wed Mar 7 17:13:46 2018 No.9809596

When did you first realize many lolitas aren't fashionable?

Half my comm can't come up with a coordinate outside of full sets or basic white, cream, or black blouse/legwear etc. They're not ita by any means, just all boring.

>it's only the sweet lolitas but you didn't hear that from me

Anonymous Wed Mar 7 17:16:42 2018 No.9809600

>>9809596
The first day I went to a meet-up, desu. Lolita is many times the only instance where the wearer has any experience in fashion at all, so basic concepts like color theory or fit are really difficult for them. For the most part, people don’t look bad they just don’t look great

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 7 17:17:58 2018 No.9809602 >>9809586 It varies if it’s a print of not, if it’s a print it’s not gonna stretch far but if it’s non-print it should stretch. Generally

Anonymous Wed Mar 7 17:20:34 2018 No.9809607

>>9809596
I'm one of those lolitas desu. I look at people like vanillabear, queran_ruffles, Fanny Rosie, and Livlotte on Instagram and try to work out what makes their outfits tick, and I just can't. What is it that makes girls like them such good dressers?

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 7 17:22:56 2018 No.9809608 >>9809586 Maybe give her yours and she can compare it to her own and say if you'll have a similar issue.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 7 17:27:24 2018 No.9809612 >>9809607 Good quality photographs and experience desu. Their coords aren't anything original, they just know how to dress for their body type.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 7 17:29:18 2018 No.9809616 >>9809607 funny they each have different style but the thing they have in common is that they know how to use their natural hair

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 7 17:32:14 2018 No.9809619 >>9809534 >telling other people to shut up when you're clearly a newfag kek

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 7 17:35:46 2018 No.9809621 >>9809619 It doesn't matter anymore because >>9809570 made this small argument cute

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 7 17:39:54 2018 No.9809623 >>9809621 nice deflection

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 7 17:47:42 2018 No.9809636 >>9809239 Have they released any more information yet?

Anonymous Wed Mar 7 18:28:32 2018 No.9809682

>>9809607
A lot of plain coord lolitas don't really treat lolita like clothes, more like a uniform (only itas treat it like a costume). I suggest experimenting a little. You don't need to post your experiments anywhere since it's probably going to be rough but it's good to try new things, unusual color combos, etc. There is a whole world of normie stuff that works well with an elegant and ladylike style in the way classic is. Try just wearing one lolita specific item in a normie outfit. It forces you to think about balance in a new way.

Anonymous Wed Mar 7 18:50:45 2018 No.9809697

>>9809596
I just have so many nice, cream/white tights. It's my personal preference - I prefer white or cream patterned tights to socks. They look better on me.
Sure it's a bit formulaic, but I wouldn't say it's necessarily unfashionable. I know what looks good on me and I stick to it, though I could do different colours/styles if I was asked. It's just what fits with my wardrobe.
>Also I'm a daily lolita and I don't want to spend money on expensive tights that will potentially only last a few wears. Socks don't look good on me.

But maybe I'm just trying to justify myself.

Anonymous Wed Mar 7 19:11:32 2018 No.9809717
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>>9809619
yo, everyone makes mistakes. I was posting at work between tasks and forgot to clear namefield after the DD thread. sorry, friendo.

>>9809596
I kinda envy people with full sets. my process is kind of crazy because I can't wear the same coord twice. I always have to try something different than before and it's kind of exhausting. I can't even wear the same main in a row, I have to space it out and coord with other things before I return to it. I'm obsessed with variety, which means everything I create is hit or miss.

I'm looking forward to getting to the point where my wardrobe is balanced, and my coording skills hit top-tier art level and I can look my best while also sating my neuroses. Work prevents me from being a daily so I only wear lolita twice a week.

Anonymous Wed Mar 7 19:21:39 2018 No.9809727

>>9809596
I always found it odd that a lot of girls don't dress up outside of Lolita. Before even touching Lolita I would try and formulate cute normie outfit and figure out what colors looked good on me, I'd go out with friends to shop and we'd share our fashion tips and gauge what looked most flattering on us. And an outfit didn't work out my mom would say something, Wich felt demeaning at the time.
I feel wierd cuz I'm don't consider myself a filthy normie but I feel like I've had a very typical experience in experimenting with dressing myself well.

Anonymous Wed Mar 7 20:07:30 2018 No.9809764

>>9809596
Looking at it from a basic fashion standard, most people believe black and white blouses are safe because the "black/white goes with everything" mindset.
Honestly, if more taobao shops offered loliable multicolored blouses there'd be more variety in what you could be seeing. Sweet lolitas deal in pinks, mints, saxons, pastel yellows, lavenders; but the easiest blouses to come across will always be white and black.
Shelby Cloud was very successful in her experimentation with OTT because she had many different colored blouses, shoes, tights and made her own accessories. It may just be a show of dedication.

Anonymous Wed Mar 7 20:10:50 2018 No.9809766

What the actual fuck is going on with all the on hold items on Mercari? Is it you poorfags here? I'm surprised Japanese sellers are accommodating this nonsense. There's a bunch of stuff I have money for and can't buy because it says reserved for x. And I know from my own sales on LM that a lot of you are shitty buyers and back out of the reservations if there's no deposit

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 7 20:13:47 2018 No.9809768 >>9809766 Why are you asking gulls? More likely than not it's Japanese buyers requesting holds.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 7 20:18:13 2018 No.9809770 >>9809768 I feel like this is something only a Westerner would do and I haven't seen it up until very recently. Now it's all over Mercari

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 7 20:19:46 2018 No.9809771 >>9809770 There's always been reserved items on Mercari if you'd check the damn comments on the listings before sperging about how glorious Nippon is being ruined by gaijin.

Anonymous Wed Mar 7 20:22:07 2018 No.9809772

>>9809766
breh, you need to chill.
when's the last time western piggus were directly buying from J sites? sellers rarely do holds or payment plans.
a lot of sellers take their time and select who to sell to based on comments, and then wait to get the bank transfer from the buyer they approve. those listing notes are there to tell you that, unless approved buyer messes up, the purchase is theirs. it isn't final until the seller feels secure so the listings are still up just in case.
are you new to buying 2ndhand via SS or...? because this tantrum really makes no sense.

Anonymous Wed Mar 7 21:14:52 2018 No.9809804

>>9809764
>Looking at it from a basic fashion standard, most people believe black and white blouses are safe because the "black/white goes with everything" mindset
That’s also how old school looks were corded and is a concept that has been with the fashion since it’s roots. Multicolored blouses and legwear didn’t hit their stride until later in the fashion

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 7 21:15:54 2018 No.9809805 >>9809804 coorded*

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 7 21:16:57 2018 No.9809807 >>9809766 How new are you? Jesus

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 7 21:23:17 2018 No.9809812 >>9809770 Hello newfag, a lot of sellers ask buyers to comment before they purchase. Usually they'll change the listing name to "reserved for _____" afterwards. Stop freaking out.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 7 21:26:30 2018 No.9809813 >>9809770 Its funny you mention this because mercari us doesn't actually allow holds for people. They can't really control their user base but I find it amusing. Not sure if the original app has the same rules.

Anonymous Wed Mar 7 21:37:55 2018 No.9809819

>>9809727
>I always found it odd that a lot of girls don't dress up outside of Lolita
Huh? In my comm of 300 most girls that actively go to meets also wear other jfash and fast fashions outside of lolita. All the active members seem very fashionable where I live.

>an outfit didn't work out my mom would say something, Wich felt demeaning at the time.
My grandmother used to drag me to go shopping with her and would insist I should only wear certain things. I hated this so much I just started shop lifting the things I wanted since she wouldn't buy them for me and I didn't actually want to go shopping for normie clothes anyway so it was convenient.

Kind of glad tho. I'm able to figure out for myself what looks flattering on me without having to ask everyone else's opinion first.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 7 22:44:45 2018 No.9809860 >>9809819 Are you me? My grandma did that exact same thing in addition to calling me fat even though I'm not. I took to stealing mini skirts and tight fitting tops so I could dress kind of gyaru like

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Anonymous Wed Mar 7 23:26:58 2018 No.9809884

>>9809860
Damn anon. ME TOO. she was trying to get me to be anorexic with her too - told me to spit my food into a napkin after chewing it so I could still get the flavor and that way I'd never get fat.

Unfortunately all my friends and I enjoyed stupid emo/goth shit. I didn't find jfash until I was older and already away from my psychotic family.

>>9809869
to be fair that necklace is bullshit hah

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 7 23:27:29 2018 No.9809885 >>9809607 Uhh vanillabear IS just one of those lolitas that coords with beiges, whites, and pinks. She is super boring. Livlotte also can't coord for shit. She really looked best in classic but has been wearing a lot of unflattering things.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 8 01:02:59 2018 No.9809935 Trying again... A year or so ago I saw a picture of a chinese lolita wearing a lot of AP rings & jewelry. /r/-ing if anyone has that photo saved somewhere...

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 8 01:14:07 2018 No.9809946 >>9809935 you're going to need to be more specific if you actually want help

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 8 01:17:57 2018 No.9809948 >>9809946 Oh it was just her hands, like a picture of her one hand (I think) and she literally shoved probably all her AP jewelry on her one hand to show off her collection.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 8 01:22:19 2018 No.9809950 >>9809948 To clarify more, it wasn't for a coord or anything. iirc she had multiple rings on each finger so it was definitely more of a collection display.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 8 01:40:03 2018 No.9809961 >>9809819 Interestingly enough, my comm is also around 300 members and I have yet to come across more than myself and a small handful of others that don't wear leggings and loose fit t-shirts or something basic from f21.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 8 01:40:37 2018 No.9809962 You know what I don't understand? When girls with ugly faces call themselves part time models. So many efamous girls are like this...why? Having your partner take pictures of you does not equal being a model

Anonymous Thu Mar 8 02:15:27 2018 No.9809977

Im so fucking done. I'm never buying from fat sellers ever again. This is the 3rd dress I've received where they say 'no damages :) only worn once/never worn' and there are stains, pulled chiffon, rips and loose seams.

Also, there was a spider in with the dress

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 8 02:39:15 2018 No.9809992 What's a search term for vintage loli-able blouses besides secretary blouse?

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 8 03:01:02 2018 No.9810002 File: 97 KB, 1155x931, burando bunker.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9809977 >Also, there was a spider in with the dress holy shit what the fuck pic highly related

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 8 03:06:41 2018 No.9810003 >>9809977 >only worn once That 'worn once is when they try it on and head all the stitches ripping

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 8 03:42:59 2018 No.9810020 >>9809977 P-pics? I am incredibly horrified but also morbidly curious.

Anonymous Thu Mar 8 03:57:50 2018 No.9810023

http://www.rainedragon.com/how-the-western-lolita-community-is-failing-chinese-brands/
Has anyone read this? I couldn't get passed the part where she says we don't refer to Western indie brands differently. We literally call them Western indie brands, not just brands. Just like how we refer to Chinese indie brands as Chinese indie brands.

Anonymous Thu Mar 8 04:05:50 2018 No.9810028

>>9810023
I'm trying to read it but it feels like her experience is just really different from mine so I can't relate to what she says. In my comm people say taobao shops/brands instead of indie brands because they are not just referring to those view Chinese lolita brands that are okay. There are hundreds of shops on taobao that don't care about lolita and just popped out of nowhere to sell shit-tier dresses to newbies. They don't deserve to be called lolita brands by any standards. Nothing racist about that, China just happens to have a lot of production companies where they can do this kind of stuff. If you are only referring to brands like Krad Lanrete it's different.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 8 04:08:25 2018 No.9810030 >>9810023 Sorry but Taobao brands have a distinct look because Chinese brands follow specific trends. Same with Western brands and Japanese brands. It isn't racist to point out where Taobao brands fail or what to avoid them.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 8 04:10:06 2018 No.9810033 >>9810023 Isn't this what they call white feminism? Trying to erase differences between people?

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 8 04:13:33 2018 No.9810037 File: 265 KB, 500x577, We_Can_Do_It!.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Happy Women's Day, gulls!!

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 8 04:16:18 2018 No.9810038 >>9810037 Not a thing where I live. But I'm going to wear my only pink lolita dress to celebrate.

Anonymous Thu Mar 8 04:25:09 2018 No.9810044

>>9810023
absolute degeneracy
someone in a group I'm in made the point that we don't stop calling etsy dresses etsy just because some shit off etsy is hot shit
also there are plenty of taobao brands that drop the 'taobao' name once they become good and well-known enough
tldr it's a shitfest and she's wrong

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 8 04:28:10 2018 No.9810052 >>9810044 That etsy part confused me. I literally do call them etsy brands.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 8 04:29:09 2018 No.9810053 >>9810023 No one calls Chinese indie brands that, everyone calls them taobao brands. Stop being delusional.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 8 04:30:44 2018 No.9810055 >>9810044 Even Krad Lanrete is called a taobao brand, kek, there isn't a single chinese brand that dropped the taobao name.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 8 04:31:35 2018 No.9810056 >>9810053 Do you not use Facebook much?

Anonymous Thu Mar 8 04:32:18 2018 No.9810057

>>9810052
I mean, that's what I'm saying, etsy is a similar aggregator of various creators' work and we still call them etsy brands, no one is batting an eye about it
this just feels like a cheap way of netting sjw points because 'muh poor oppressed chinese sweatshop workers'

>>9810037
I refuse to acknowledge women's day because in my country it's a shitty commercial holiday that was carried over from the Soviet occupation, but I hope gulls have a nice day regardless

Anonymous Thu Mar 8 04:32:20 2018 No.9810058

>>9810037
It's international women's rights day but somehow every year if you turn on the radio you're bombarded with makeup brands and home appliances stores having "half off teflon pans for women's day!" as if that wasn't the exact opposite of what the day was created for
sorry for salt

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 8 04:35:29 2018 No.9810062 >>9810056 Even on Facebook people were bitching about too many ~taobao brands~ in Lolita Updates. Don't purposely be ignorant. Just look at any past threads; literally not a single person calls taobao brands "Chinese Indie"

Anonymous Thu Mar 8 04:42:12 2018 No.9810065

>>9810062
Da
Lolita Updates calls them Chinese brands. People in my comm say (Chinese) indie brand when they talk about a new purchase from good taobao shops, or they just say the brand name. Most of the time when lolitas talk about taobao online, it's because they are complaining or looking for cheap stuff. When anon says Chinese indie brands I don't think they're including milanoo-tier shops.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 8 04:47:16 2018 No.9810069 >>9810065 >Lolita updates Lol, yea because it's ran by chinese people and people would bitch and moan if they weren't PC Compared to Haenuli, or Lief, where people don't specify KOREAN indie brand, people just call them indie.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 8 04:48:00 2018 No.9810070 >>9810020 >>9810002 well i killed the spider and its in the bin at the moment but oh boy it was a nasty shock

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 8 04:52:10 2018 No.9810073 >>9810023 >And the Chinese lolita community is setting trends that influence the design choices of brands in Japan. Never. Fucking. Asked. For. This. That's why major brands look "taobao" this days.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 8 04:58:17 2018 No.9810075 >>9810073 News flash, brands don't care about what you ask for. They care about what makes money. So either back up your words with enough cash to make a difference, or suck it up.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 8 05:00:54 2018 No.9810078 >>9810075 I don't understand your salt. You say it like the whole community doesn't suck it already.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 8 05:01:09 2018 No.9810079 >>9809616 This is a really good point no one else has made in this thread. Sounds like I need to start figuring out how to do my hair...

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 8 05:02:55 2018 No.9810082 >>9810078 No they don't, they come on cgl and complain endlessly about how taobao brands are ruining lolita, just like you did.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 8 05:43:28 2018 No.9810102 >>9810069 Do u really not specify? I get it if u just use the brand name, but most people would say the country or western when talking about indie brands, even if it's Japan.

Anonymous Thu Mar 8 06:01:39 2018 No.9810107

>>9809596

The last time someone brought up this idea it got to the point where the “creative” lolitas started attacking the inspo threads, saying that full sets should not be posted as they were “boring”, “too easy” and “not inspirational”. Culminating at a point where they complained about a 3-piece “AP full set”. At that point some anons stepped in to point out that two of pieces (the OP and legwear) were in fact from different releases. And no one identified the third piece, the necklace, so it’s possible it wasn’t even AP at all. So it turns out that the “creative” lolitas simply had terrible taste and rejected anything that looked too good together as “full set, too boring”, even if all the pieces were not actually a set at all.

So now I can’t really unsee this comment on how other girls dress as anything else other than a thinly veiled “I’m not like the other girls” gambit.

Dress as colourfully and as brightly as you want, but there’s not need to pull down other girls and shit on them to make yourself look better. If you look good, you look good. If you look bad, saying that you’re “not like the other girls” doesn’t magically make your outfit better anyway.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 8 06:09:03 2018 No.9810117 >>9810102 I've never seen anyone specifying, western or otherwise. I've also never heard anyone using the term "Chinese indie brand", either.

Anonymous Thu Mar 8 06:12:08 2018 No.9810120

>>9810069

We actually did call Korean indies Korean indies, up until Haenuli messed up something or another and pissed some people off. Now Haenuli is being mentioned by name because people want to complain specifically about that brand. They're also mentioning her staff by her nickname Nunu, so it's getting very specific and not a generalization of all Korean indies.

Korean indies isn't just Haenuli vs Lief anyhow. There's also Baroque, Dear Margaret, Cloud Chamber (that I know of, might be more).

Anonymous Thu Mar 8 06:14:10 2018 No.9810122

>>9810107
I still remember how a friend once said to my face „Of course your stuff fits together, it‘s all AP.“
It was in a manner which sounded like „Buying everything from one brand (and print) is the easy way out.“
And another time someone asked if I was wearing a full-set when I was just wearing matching AP.

I always wonder if they prefer me struggling to find matching lavender and pinks just so I’m not a brand whore in their eyes?

Anonymous Thu Mar 8 06:17:35 2018 No.9810123

>>9810120
Yes obviously there's a ton of Korean indie brands, but most of the time they're just generalized as indie brands unless there was a specific reason to mention that they were Korean.
People mentioned Haenuli and other indie brands by name all the time; it's not just because of the controversy lmao

Anonymous Thu Mar 8 06:17:44 2018 No.9810124

>>9809596
I notice it a lot with hair and make-up.
There are many girls in my comm who really don‘t dress up outside of lolita, or are just plain-janes.
They never have properly styled hair (or have un-cut bangs on wigs) and struggle with make up a lot if they bother to wear any at all.
After the photos of our last tea party were posted, my bff and I were really disappointed in our comm, because 90% of the bad coords just needed some better hair and make-up to be decent.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 8 06:22:59 2018 No.9810128 >>9810123 Anon, by those standards people mention Nameless Poem without calling it a taobao brand, or without referencing its brand, really.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 8 06:29:05 2018 No.9810130 >>9810117 Search western indie in the archives newfag

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 8 06:38:21 2018 No.9810134 File: 34 KB, 720x240, _20180308_123523.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9810062 >literally not a single person calls taobao brands "Chinese Indie" You said in response to a post about a blog post that calls them Chinese brands

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 8 06:43:54 2018 No.9810138 >>9810023 Well maybe if they stopped unilaterally using the equivalent of Amazon to sell their low-quality dresses we'd stop calling it like we see it.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 8 06:46:14 2018 No.9810139 Why are pre owned OPs so cheap on LM compared to JSKs? I’ve been able to get some OPs for around $100 but never the case with jsks. It’s just something I noticed but didn’t quite understand why. Quality never bad either, some have been barely pre owned.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 8 06:47:56 2018 No.9810141 >>9810138 This. When someone bought an umbrella from amazon do people say "oh I got this from a brand called Unique Imports"? No. We say we got it from Amazon.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 8 06:49:06 2018 No.9810142 >>9810139 JSKs will fit more people because of shirring, adjustable straps and no sleeves. Also OPs will more likely have direct skin contact while JSKs have the blouse to catch the sweat.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 8 07:02:14 2018 No.9810144 >>9810128 >The entire point of the blog post is that people should call them chinese indie brands instead of taobao brands What is this circular logic?

Anonymous Thu Mar 8 07:04:58 2018 No.9810145

>>9810023
>muh fresh Chinese design and innovation
Yeah when you have literally 300 "brands" throwing shit at the wall something will stick.
>low quality from China is just a MISCONCEPTION
There's a reason that they will never be able to reach the price point of Japanese brands. You can applaud the high accessibility and low cost of Taobao dresses but don't delude yourself into thinking that it's just as meme that their stuff is low quality.
>Cheap stuff exists in Japan too!!!
Sure, but I'm not buying that stuff and I never will because I'm not a pleb.

It's great that lolita is cheaper for some people but for me and many others part of the function and draw of lolita is to have NICE. FUCKING. CLOTHES. I feel like so many people forget this and just wanna cosplay in cheap princess dresses.

Anonymous Thu Mar 8 07:05:20 2018 No.9810146

>>9810134
>The entire point of the blog post is that people should call them chinese indie brands instead of taobao brands
What is this circular logic?
If you're really trying to argue that people call chinese brands "Chinese indie brands" instead of "Taobao brands" the majority of the time, you're crazy. All you have to do is reread the past two threads.

>>9810130
A handful of uses doesn't outweigh that the majority of times, "western" isn't specified, newfag.

>>9810128
That's the name of a dress, not a brand, and frankly doesn't even make sense as an argument lmfao

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 8 07:10:38 2018 No.9810148 >>9810146 Someone is arguing that people NEVER say korean/chinese/japanese/western indie, when obviously we do.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 8 07:14:18 2018 No.9810150 >>9810148 It's pretty obvious they're exaggerating to make their point clear, since OP is claiming that chinese brands are called "Chinese indie brands".

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 8 07:26:25 2018 No.9810159 >>9810150 I'm >>9810065. I thought that anon just doesn't know we do say korean indie brands sometimes.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 8 07:36:42 2018 No.9810160 Is the Lolita Blog Carnival still a thing? Do any of you participate? I'd like some communal writing prompts/themes, but more than that I'd just like to connect with some other lolitas who blog.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 8 08:21:19 2018 No.9810174 File: 761 KB, 1080x1538, IMG_20180308_211929.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Kato-san seems to be on a roll these days.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 8 08:46:56 2018 No.9810189 >>9810174 OT, but is that a typo in her tweet? Wouldn't it be 雨降り, not 雨振り?

Anonymous Thu Mar 8 08:49:30 2018 No.9810192

>>9810146
>That's the name of a dress, not a brand, and frankly doesn't even make sense as an argument lmfao

That's the point. Person I replied to said "People mentioned Haenuli and other indie brands by name all the time".

People mention a lot of different names all the time. Of various things. Of many brands. Saying that people say "Haenuli" a lot, and then arguing that this is some kind of proof people aren't calling Haenuli by another name doesn't really make sense. People will call it Haenuli or Lief because they want to talk specifically about Haenuli or Lief. They'll call it Korean indie if they want to talk about Korean indies in general. They'll call it Nameless Poem when they specifically mean that dress. They'll call it Ista Mori when they specifically want to talk about that brand. And then call it taobao or chinese brand when they want to talk about taobao or chinese brand in general. Or call all the smaller companies indie brands when they want to talk about indie brands, which is exactly what happened last month when someone made a thread to talk about indies (all indies, all countries) in general.

Just because we're talking a lot about Haenuli or Lief at the moment doesn't mean we don't blanket refer to all Korean brands as Korean indies.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 8 09:01:35 2018 No.9810207 File: 409 KB, 1536x2048, IMG_20180308_150030.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Looks like I don't hate Triple Fortune after all

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 8 09:03:47 2018 No.9810210 >>9809147 Good luck with the new job! Thanks for all you do with lolibrary.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 8 09:04:35 2018 No.9810212 >>9810192 I hate to say this but the anons that are arguing about this are probably newfags. We've even had Westen indie band threads.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 8 09:05:00 2018 No.9810214 File: 508 KB, 1217x2165, IMG_20180308_220401.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9810207 The details, though.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 8 09:05:39 2018 No.9810215 >>9809271 Same desu. I miss pretty woven cotton and heavier fabric choices.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 8 09:06:06 2018 No.9810216 >>9810192 I hate to say this but the anons that are arguing about this are probably newfags. We've even had Western indie brand threads.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 8 09:23:45 2018 No.9810222 >>9809636 >>9809239 Not that I know of. The event is almost only two months away. I'd expect someone somewhere giving some extra info

Anonymous Thu Mar 8 09:43:48 2018 No.9810238
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Translated from Japanese by Microsoft
The Gothic Lolita Museum is scheduled to be held in Harajuku at the end of April.
We will exhibit clothes and books around 1980 ~ 2005.
We are also planning to sell a history-packed booklet.
Details can be announced at the end of this month.
Original tweet:
無言フォロー失礼します。
4月末に原宿でゴスロリ博物館を開催予定で御座います。
1980~2005年頃のお洋服や書籍を展示致します。
歴史をまとめた冊子も販売予定です。
詳細は今月末には公表出来ます。
経緯は #ゴスロリ博物館をご覧下さい。
#ロリィタさんとつながりたい

If someone can pick up that booklet, please please share it with the online community

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 8 09:46:32 2018 No.9810240 >>9810238 I would honestly pay $$$ for a translator if there's anything interesting in that booklet

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 8 09:49:16 2018 No.9810242 >>9809239 Why would it be a hoax? It was posted by JetJ. I don't know what happened with SFE so this may be all we're getting this year...

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 8 09:59:36 2018 No.9810255 >>9810242 Sfe is going to be taking a break this year and come back in 2019.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 8 10:05:11 2018 No.9810259 >>9810160 I would, but it's still on Facebook so nope.

Anonymous Thu Mar 8 10:06:13 2018 No.9810260

>>9809596
I have nothing against boring or formulaic coords but I do see a lot of girls just throwing things together without thinking about the whole picture. Last meetup I went to, someone was wearing VM’s Lace Up Doll OP with a rectangle headdress with cat ears on it. Both can look nice imo but together...?

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 8 10:06:43 2018 No.9810264 >>9810255 They didn't do an event last year either. They've been saying they're working on a emook for over a year.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 8 10:17:00 2018 No.9810270 >>9809885 But she's boring in a way that's nice to look at and recognizably her own. What is it that makes her stand out, out of all the other boring SF lolitas?

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 8 10:36:23 2018 No.9810279 How true are AatP shoe sizes? I'm a UK size 5 (23.5) and not sure whether to go for m or l.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 8 10:36:54 2018 No.9810281 >>9810216 I just realised how stupid this whole discussion is, it's not even like these terms are exclusive to lolita. Thanks for reminder/support, I'm just going to drop the whole thing and go do something more productive.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 8 10:38:15 2018 No.9810283 >>9810264 There was Omnia Vanitas last year, organized by SFE

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 8 10:44:15 2018 No.9810285 >>9810283 I thought that was in 2016 for some reason

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 8 11:06:02 2018 No.9810301 >>9810279 I don't have any personal experience but I have heard they run small.

Anonymous Thu Mar 8 11:06:58 2018 No.9810302

>>9809239
I've already been to Paris and apart from the beautiful historical places to visit it's kind of a depressing city. It wouldn't be worth the money to go there again just for an event, those tea parties always mean a lot of stress to me so I only go to events if I can combine it with a short vacation and if the city it's held in interests me.

It's also too short-sighted, Paris is expensive and there's only like 2 months left to make your bookings. They better release some info soon or it's only going to be for the locals in the end.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 8 11:07:23 2018 No.9810303 >>9810238 It's literally just one girl showing her wardrobe and putting lolita history from the GLBs together.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 8 11:08:55 2018 No.9810306 >>9810207 Not sure why you ever did. People on this board who hate triple fortune and royal princess Alice are all mindless bandwagon jumpers.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 8 11:09:01 2018 No.9810307 >>9810302 There are a lot of beautiful places for lolitas outside of Paris though, especially for lolitas. I'd take the holiday in Normandy.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 8 11:11:06 2018 No.9810311 >>9810302 >apart from the beautiful historical places to visit it's kind of a depressing city omg, I've never been to Paris, how can it be depressing?

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 8 11:11:35 2018 No.9810312 >>9810303 I still need it >>9810306 Because their cuts and ruffles look ugly

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 8 11:12:09 2018 No.9810313 >>9809961 I did mention fast fashion though. Just because you don't care for it doesn't mean its not fashionable.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 8 11:12:30 2018 No.9810314 >>9810307 Yes, I'm aware of that. I regularly make vacation in rural France. Paris is giving me headaches though and I'm not even a sucker for JetJ. So, not worth it for me.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 8 11:14:05 2018 No.9810319 >>9810313 loose shirts+leggings from are not fashionable

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 8 11:15:03 2018 No.9810320 Mana and Moitie coming to Hellocon.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 8 11:16:26 2018 No.9810323 >>9810312 Yup. You sound like everyone else.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 8 11:16:44 2018 No.9810324 >>9810320 What is hellocon

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 8 11:17:29 2018 No.9810326 >>9810319 They were for like a minute. That's how fast fashion works. Its ok that you don't like it.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 8 11:18:48 2018 No.9810327 >>9810324 It's a yearly lolita event in Finland!

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 8 11:20:44 2018 No.9810331 >>9810301 Yeah I'm assuming they run small because Asian

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 8 11:23:55 2018 No.9810334 >>9810320 Never heard any reactions about their previous event (Looking for Alice) so I assumed they didn't sell well. Glad to see they didn't give up. Did anyone go to their event last year?

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 8 11:26:13 2018 No.9810338 >>9810320 Several persons linked it to me within one minute of it being posted bless this community

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 8 11:30:47 2018 No.9810347 >>9810270 I don't know where she lives and who the other SF lolitas are. Sounds like you know her or are her anon.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 8 11:32:10 2018 No.9810349 >>9810338 >mfw nobody linked it to me even though 80% of my wardrobe is moitie >mfw I have to re-introduce myself every time I attend a meet

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 8 11:35:58 2018 No.9810351 >>9810320 I feel like people are just hyped because it's the first time he's doing this in Europe. I'm sure he'll attend more lolita events in the future.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 8 11:47:13 2018 No.9810363 >>9809616 I wish I could ask other lolitas to style my hair before a meet. I have a very basic/casual style so it looks off to wear a wig with it. I can take care of my hair, but I can't do any interesting hairstyles like hime lolitas can.

Anonymous Thu Mar 8 11:51:15 2018 No.9810368

>>9810311
It can be very dodgy, similar to Rome or Naples. You have to watch your wallet all the time and avoid the scammers trying to sell you random stuff who are everywhere. Very dirty, too if you visit the wrong areas. And you have watch the overconfident men. I got hit on all the time, but not always in a pleasant way. Once I was cornered by a group of Africans in a side street. Lucky some other people went in there and they let off of me, otherwise I don't know what would have happened to me. The expensive areas are very nice, but NEVER get off the road. I highly advise only going to the tourist spots, even if it can be crowded. I've felt so unsafe as in this city and I traveled a lot in my life.

Anonymous Thu Mar 8 11:54:31 2018 No.9810372

>>9810368
yeah, a friend of mine once told me she got off the rail and a white dude just surprised her out of nowhere and grabbed hold of her neck, pushing her against a wall. this was in public in a busy station. no one did shit and she hit him in the body/against the arms a few times to get herself away.
definitely watch out for rapists. it goes beyond entitlement with some people, you won't believe it.>>9810311

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 8 11:58:47 2018 No.9810379 >>9810326 Fashionable and sorority row acceptable are two different things. Sorry anon.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 8 12:06:06 2018 No.9810385 >>9810279 Go for M anon. I'm 24.0 and I can occasionally fit M, but usually go for L unless I can try it on in store.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 8 12:21:08 2018 No.9810399 >>9810379 In other words, its normie fashion. Not something you'd enjoy.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 8 12:27:41 2018 No.9810409 >>9810372 >a white dude just surprised her out of nowhere and grabbed hold of her neck, >white Probably a Tunisian tbqfhwymf

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 8 13:00:30 2018 No.9810432 >>9810368 t. breitbart

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 8 13:03:22 2018 No.9810435 >>9810399 Oh, I enjoy normie fashion very much. I, however, don’t call what an average person throws on without any thought to blend in as “fashion.”

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 8 13:04:26 2018 No.9810436 >>9810409 can’t handle all this edge

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 8 13:18:14 2018 No.9810452 >>9810435 This. Average people don't put much thought into how they are dressed.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 8 13:59:31 2018 No.9810490 >>9810192 The person they were replying to was claiming that people only mentioned Haenuli because of the controversy.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 8 14:00:47 2018 No.9810493 >>9810306 RPA is literally the bandwagon jumper brand, tf?

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 8 14:28:05 2018 No.9810519 >>9810306 I don’t hate those brands, just 90% of the dresses they produce because they’re ugly as sin.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 8 14:35:34 2018 No.9810528 >>9810145 >part of the function and draw of lolita is to have NICE. FUCKING. CLOTHES. This, absolutely. I'd rather drop higher amounts on clothes that I can actually wear rather than the ~quirky~ frilly costumes newbies today call "lolita".

Anonymous Thu Mar 8 14:36:48 2018 No.9810529

>>9810368
Want to know a fun one?
A lot of Japanese romanticize Paris so wildly, that the reality shocks them like, hardcore.
There's a phone number that Japanese tourists can call to vent and get advice about it, and the office that handles those calls in the Japanese Embassy in Paris handles about 9 severe cases a year where the Japanese government steps in to get them back home in one mental piece.
"Paris Syndrome" it's fuckin wild

Anonymous Thu Mar 8 14:38:17 2018 No.9810531

>>9810529
"Paris Syndrome is a psychological condition experienced almost exclusively by Japanese tourists who are disappointed when the city of lights does not live up to their romantic expectations.

The syndrome, considered an extreme case of culture shock, causes symptoms such as an acute delusional state, hallucinations, anxiety, dizziness, and sweating, has been documented by medical journals."

PARIS IS SO BAD IT MAKES YOU HALLUCINATE

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 8 14:46:10 2018 No.9810545 >>9810529 >>9810531 >Paris Syndrome Sounds like the opposite of Jerusalem Syndrome, lmao

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 8 15:00:17 2018 No.9810560 >>9810531 >>9810529 I wonder what happens when they go to LA lol

Anonymous Thu Mar 8 15:07:21 2018 No.9810565

>>9810320
I hate to say it, but how relevant is Mana anymore? MMM has gotten progressively worse and more photoshop-vomity over the years unless they're making very simple items.
Did Mana start talking in public? If not it's going to be a bit of an awkward guest appearance.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 8 15:08:48 2018 No.9810566 What's with all the events popping up in Europe this year?

Anonymous Thu Mar 8 15:09:02 2018 No.9810567
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>>9810560
They don't glorfy LA though. Japanese really think Paris is some fashionable, whimsical foreign fairytale.

When I was in Shinjuku an ad played on the streets about Paris. It was a very fashionable beautiful japanese girl, twirling in her dress on a clean platform with no other people on it and the eiffel tower in the background.

Pic related is how Paris is advertised to the japanese and that's how they think it is.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 8 15:10:00 2018 No.9810568 >>9810565 Mana has almost always had a "translator" how different is that from any other japanese guest having a translator?

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 8 15:17:10 2018 No.9810572 >>9810567 I can think of tons of Japanese people who glorify LA. I'm white and they sometimes react disappointed when they find out I'm not from cali. There are Japanese fashions and celebrities who are obsessed with California/Hollywood too.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 8 15:18:30 2018 No.9810573 >>9810327 Do people normally talk English in Finland? Or just Finnish and Swedish?

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 8 15:19:47 2018 No.9810575 >>9810566 Like what? We always have several lolita-specific events a year

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 8 15:20:48 2018 No.9810577 >>9810567 That's how Paris is advertised everywhere. Just like every single holiday destination ever.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 8 15:25:24 2018 No.9810581 >>9810567 >>9810577 >>9810572 right, but look up paris syndrome. the japanese are so crazy into paris they get depressed from finding out all the people there aren't kawaii mimes holding french bread.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 8 15:28:40 2018 No.9810585 File: 139 KB, 1287x842, MissDiorChérieLeau-horizontal.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9810577 I was about to say the same thing. That myth about typical parisienne pays a lot of bills.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 8 15:32:17 2018 No.9810587 >>9810585 Yeah but only the japanese are so delusional they believe it and live it. And when I say live it, you can see that weird dream of how Paris is supposed to be in almost every big store. Images of that dream everywhere.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 8 15:47:04 2018 No.9810601 >>9810581 I knew what paris syndrome is already but LA is a shithole so just curious how those people'd react

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 8 15:48:15 2018 No.9810603 >>9810573 Finnish people are usually good in English

Anonymous Thu Mar 8 15:56:19 2018 No.9810609

>>9810601
The Japanese don't have culturally reinforced expectations of LA being a magical dreamland, so it's different. Probably some will be "it's different/crappier than I expected" but not like mental health levels of crazy, especially since it's not super romanticized in available media (yes they have a glossy sheen on it but it's not like...completely removed from reality)

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 8 15:59:09 2018 No.9810611 >>9810073 It hurts me as well anon, and how certain dresses have re-releases just because tasteless Chinese lolitas love them to a tee

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 8 23:21:48 2018 No.9811059 New >>9810628

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 9 00:19:49 2018 No.9811105 >>9810493 No I meant the opinion of it held by most cgulls. I see it commonly repeated to the point where it just seems like anons are mindlessly following a meme which is pretty common this board.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 9 06:24:31 2018 No.9811330 >>9810207 Beautiful aristocrat coat.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 9 06:34:03 2018 No.9811339 >>9810528 >>9810145 Exactly. Pretty clothes that are decently made is the most significant point of lolita for me.

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