/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

[Anonymous No.9764589]

Why did literally all of us have an (ongoing) bishonen phase? Is there a relation betwee cosplay and enjoying bishonen?

[Anonymous No.9764590]

Uuuuuuhhh cute anime and cool costumes..?

[Anonymous No.9764595]

>why did we all have a bishounen phase
We all didn't

Shit thread

[Anonymous No.9764604]

horny

[Anonymous No.9764607]

>>9764595
Male poster detected.

[Anonymous No.9764610]

>>9764607
Virgin detected.

[Anonymous No.9764612]

>>9764610
What?

[Anonymous No.9764614]

>>9764589
Cosplay is usually based on anime. Anime tends to have attractive male characters. If you're a young male-attracted girl approaching puberty or experiencing it at that time, it makes sense that said characters would draw you in. Thus, a "phase" begins.
Not rocket science.

[Anonymous No.9764639]

>>9764607
Do you think that guys don't cosplay or something?

[Anonymous No.9764669]

>>9764589
Because of jpop

[Anonymous No.9764743]

>>9764589
>literally all of us
Sorry to disappoint but it's not literally all of us. Bishounen are for lesbians in denial or girls that are afraid of guys, or both. I've always been into the burly manly types myself.

[Anonymous No.9764744]

>>9764743

[Anonymous No.9764745]

>>9764743
they better be lesbians in denial, otherwise it's super gross and problematic that they fetishize gay men

[Anonymous No.9764786]

>>9764743
Same, as a straight woman I don’t understand the attraction to men that look like girls. Incidentally the only people who I’ve ever personally known to be super into yaoi as adults are lesbians, which I don’t understand either.

[Anonymous No.9764810]

>>9764743
When I was into bishounen I was like 14 so it only makes sense I would be leaning towards a more non-threatening cute teen look. Also it was exotic and different since such a concept almost didn't exist in the west at the time except for a very select few scene bands.

[Anonymous No.9764821]

>>9764786
>Lesbians into yaoi
This, I dont understand this. And it's always the man-hating megagays too.

[Anonymous No.9764824]

>>9764821
Yuri hits too close to home, and hetero shit isn't enjoyable because
>why is the woman with a man
Yaoi hits the sweet spot, where it's not straight, but doesn't make us uncomfortable in anyway. Plus, I like the look of bishie boys, but no so much in real life

[Anonymous No.9764828]

>>9764824
The woman is with a man because 97% of people in the world are straight

[Anonymous No.9764858]

>>9764745

[Anonymous No.9764861]

>>9764824
>yuri hits too close to home
In what way? Is it not relatable? Too fetishy and obviously appeals to men? I just think it's odd you get off to content completely unrelated to your gender just because it's "not straight".
>inb4 lol straight people don't get us queers
I'm a bi girl, f/m and f/f appeals to me but I don't get the hype women have for m/m content.

[Anonymous No.9764869]

>>9764589
>be me, grade 7
>gross fujoshit
>literally reading hardcore yaoi in class, giggling with other fujoshit friend
>fast forward 14 years
>beautiful bishounen boyfriend
>skinny as hell
>goddamn those collarbones
>bonus: megane
>loves when i wear lolita

I made it

[Anonymous No.9764875]

>>9764743
>>9764810
>How can people like what I don't like?! They must be lesbians!
And I bet you like big burly men because you have daddy issues or your biological clock is ticking and all you want to do is be impregnated by a bull.
Seriously, miss me with that shit. Cute guys for life.

[Anonymous No.9764911]

>>9764861
I don't really like to acknowledge my gay in such a way, so looking at it makes it feel wrong, though sometimes I like it. I'm fine with some Shoujo ai and seeing girls in couples that are my type, but otherwise not. My other lesbian friend loves bl shows far more than I do, so at least I'm not alone in my circle. I've never been one to get off of yaoi though (nor has my friend), I don't see how people can do it, I just use it as the only form of romance I can enjoy

[Anonymous No.9764924]

>>9764861

I'm also a bi girl- I like het and yuri but I don't like yaoi for some reason as well?

I've always liked pretty men too. Rugged/manly/macho guys just don't do it for me and never really did.

[Anonymous No.9764941]

Aren't we all blowing the concept of bishounen out of proportion? We like men, what about it?

In my opinion anime men are suppose to be just as unrealistic as anime girls. It's part of their stylistic medium, and that aesthetic had better match! To be fair if you simply tone down the clean, perfect, pasty texture of an anime character most of them are meant to represent pretty average people. Not too beautiful, but very seldom ugly. The very concept of bishonen, pretty young men, can actually be found in real life such. 3D people might be pigs, but let's keep those memes out of there. Women like men, and will seek out their preference. Whether this is skinny sticks or burly muscle mounds is their choice. We all just happen to be into this dumb asian artstyle when it comes to our attractive cartoons. I don't see any discussions about guys having a moe-phase?

The discussion has already devolved into questions of yaoi in relation to personal sexual orientation. It wouldn't surprise me if the fujoshit crossplaying will rear its ugly head to bring up our gender of choice too. Wouldn't those be more appropriate and positively bait-iculous topics for an entire thread?

[Anonymous No.9764946]

>>9764875
>tfw used to be bishie but now are 26 yr old uggotron

[Anonymous No.9764956]

>>9764875
Why are you so defensive? Being a lesbian is not a bad thing, and being attracted to cute, feminine, non-intimidating guys isn't a bad thing either. Just pointing out it's not universal, that's all.

[Anonymous No.9764962]

>>9764861
I'm in a lesbian relationship and have only dated women before but I appreciate human bodies in general so I personally enjoy a bit of everything.
I think the reason I started to enjoy m/m content (whether bishie or bara desu) is because the whole thing about two men being is love is seen under a lot worse/more taboo a light than f/f and leaves space for a lot of "forbidden love" plots that I personally enjoy. Irl men usually make such a point in underlining how gross it is to get it on with a dude, feeling the need to "no homo" at any accidental closeness, that I ended up enjoying reading stories on male characters finding and exploring their love for eachother, their bodies, etc.
The m/m content I look at escapes the stereotypical uke/seme shit, so it's a plus. Nowadays I just look at that sort of content as any other couple content.
F/f is cute and I enjoy it too but I find that a lot of is either male fantasies of lesbians or, since I am with a girl myself, kinda inaccurate, which can put me off. Of course there is good content too, which I like.
As for m/f, I'm perfectly okay with general love stories and consume plenty of them, I just stay away from the porn because the vast majority just seems so exaggerated and kinda gross.
I hope this makes some sense, my english sometimes fails me.

[Anonymous No.9769841]

I'm a trans guy and seeing girls losing their shit over more feminine dudes, even if fictional, makes me feel better about my body.

[Anonymous No.9770199]

>>9764745
Go back to Tumblr, fagget

[Anonymous No.9770224]

>>9764743
Manly men are repulsive in ever way.

[Anonymous No.9772283]

Im not cute in the face or girl-sexy enough to pull of female cosplays, but I’m tall and broad shouldered enough to cosplay “pretty” or “handsome” dudes so that’s what I stick with.

Also as a bi woman I’ll admit it does give me an huge ego boost when girls at cons fawn all over me. I like living the husbando life for a few days.

...I’m actually low key annoyed at all the straight dudes rolling in and bootlegging my queer girl brand, buuut that’s a rant for another time.

[Anonymous No.9772288]

>>9764956
>implies cute men are lesser men than burly men
>n-not that there's anything wrong with that!

[Anonymous No.9772293]

>>9772283
>complaining about straight guys cosplaying guys

[Anonymous No.9772316]

>>9772293
straight dudes are ugly as hell, give me cute crossdresser girls/fakebois anyday

[Anonymous No.9772319]

>>9772316
Do you know how many uggo Tumblrinas attempt to cosplay bishounens?

[Anonymous No.9772327]

>>9770224
What makes you say that?

[Anonymous No.9772330]

>>9772319
i said CUTE

[Anonymous No.9772333]

>>9772316
got you covered friend. got you covered

>>9772293
I could get into the ~deep reasons~ but the short version is that these guys stroll up in here, put in the bare minimum work, contribute little to the community, and get 50 times the praise than a chick doing the same thing just bc there’s a dick in there somewhere.

Petty? Sure, but still irritating to me and the other queer women who’ve been here for years who feel like our niche is being invaded.

inb4 wah no speaking for everyone, I’m sure there are people who dgaf but in my circles it’s a thing that’s discussed

[Anonymous No.9772337]

>>9764869
POST PIC

[Anonymous No.9772341]

>>9772333
Okay that's fair I guess. I also hate when guys think they can half-ass their cosplays.
Yes you need to wear a wig, yes you should figure out how to at least do some makeup to smooth out your skin tone.

[Anonymous No.9772343]

>>9772341
Yes for the love of god boys please... please.

please wear some makeup your manhood won’t shrivel up and fall off I promise

[Anonymous No.9772344]

>>9772333
TO BE FAIR: the vast majority of male designs are boring as hell and just.......look like everyday wear on your average dude

so 'entry level' for a male cosplayer has a much, much lower bar than entry level for a female cosplayer

[Anonymous No.9772352]

>>9772330
I can't actually remember the last time I saw a legitimately cute and well done FtoM crossplay. It always seems like it's fat tumblrites doing it, and they always end up looking lopsided and dumpy.

[Anonymous No.9772370]

>>9772352
It's very rare and imo the people who do it well could usually do female cosplays just fine because they're attractive and at least pass as androgynous rather than just looking like ugly women.

[Anonymous No.9772379]

>>9764745
Bishonen aren't gay men, they're just pretty men.

In any case, I like soft pretty boys and soft pretty girls, so. I like dick but I hate manliness.

Not a lesbian but still pretty gay.

[Anonymous No.9772418]

>>9764869
i meant fast forward 8 years, oops

>>9772337
this is from last month
he's a bit of an otomen too! he does all the cooking for me.
It's really helpful that he loves fashion as much as I do (albeit normie stuff like cdg, yohji, etc.) so it's nice that he genuinely shares my interest in lolita, unlike my past boyfriend who were lowkey embarrassed when i wore jfashion.

>>9772379
>Not a lesbian but still pretty gay.
fuckin' same

[Anonymous No.9772422]

>>9772418
>Awful fits
>Clownshoes with casual clothes
Lmao

[Anonymous No.9772439]

>>9772379
>I hate manliness
Why? Just curious

[Anonymous No.9772455]

>>9772439
I don't really know, masculinity has never been something that's appealing to me. I've been about the feminine boys my entire life.

[Anonymous No.9772460]

>>9772418
this is really sweet anon

[Anonymous No.9772462]

>>9764743
Yeah guys, c-c-can't you see macho men are way more attractive than bishounen? #realmen

[Anonymous No.9772485]

>>9772462
Rip ;_;7

[Anonymous No.9772747]

>>9772422
I feel the loneliness behind this post

[Anonymous No.9772863]

>>9772747
I feel the cringe from here if fashion is truly one of his hobbies and he dresses like that.

[Anonymous No.9774402]

Will be your bishonen for a support main in overwatch

[Anonymous No.9777757]

>>9772283
Same, Always prefered to do guy cosplays over girls,
although I wish more guys here cosplayed bishounen, most guys in my country are ugly though.

[Anonymous No.9777763]

>>9772863
Nayrt but his style is honestly a LOT better than the bfs I see at meets. Granted, I'm in the US.

>>9772418
>he does all the cooking for me
Ugh, too cute. Wishing you all the best anon!

[Anonymous No.9778406]

>>9764589
maybe cause many cosplayers like anime

[Anonymous No.9778411]

>>9764869
>be me
>fat non bishi man
>will never have a nerdy fujoshi who likes to wear lolita
feels bad

[Anonymous No.9778499]

>>9777763
>His style is a LOT better than people who don't care about fashion
Obviously, but his fits are terrible for someone who considers that their hobby. /Fa/ would tear his soyboy ass apart

[Anonymous No.9778603]

>>9764743
Burly men are nasty though

[Anonymous No.9778610]

>>9764786
Damn something must be wrong with me then. I’m a straight female who likes yaoi.

[Anonymous No.9778620]

>>9778603
Factually incorrect.

[Anonymous No.9778624]

>>9772341
Yes! I agree so much with this. Guys need to get over the whole “Makeup isn’t manly” bullcrap. I’m not saying they need to wear makeup everyday but atleast for a cosplay to even out the skin tone

[Anonymous No.9778626]

>>9772418
Goals.

[Anonymous No.9778628]

>>9772418
Goals

[Anonymous No.9778632]

>>9772418
I know you. You're the girl who smells like iron and cheese

[Anonymous No.9778842]

I will never stop loving pretty boys! They are a shining gift in this bleak world. Even if the pretty boy is actually a woman I don't care!

[Anonymous No.9778863]

>>9772462
Japanese pro wrestling caters to the fujo demographic

[Anonymous No.9778909]

>>9778620
>mfw big sillies misconceive beautiful and manly as mutually exclusive

[Anonymous No.9778980]

I went through a huge bishie phase when I was young. Eventually I started only caring about cute anime girls and basically avoided cute anime boys to avoid being labeled as a fujoshi, but now I just don't give a shit. I've fallen back into yaoi hell hard. These men are just too handsome.

[Anonymous No.9779493]

It's not a 4sexual thing for me, it's just pleasing to look at these boys. I find them soothing, not something to get all worked up about. Something neutral about the non female stimulus with the feminine aesthetic, like a balance.

[Anonymous No.9779497]

>>9764956
Maybe because you were aggressive to begin with by saying only "lesbians in denial" or "girls who are afraid of guys" can be attracted to people you're not attracted to. Don't dish out what you can't take.
I think hairy, overly muscular men are ugly as shit, personally. It doesn't mean I or other women must be gay or "afraid".

[Anonymous No.9779510]

>>9779497
No one was talking about real men though, the OP mentioned bishonen which are effeminate cartoon guys, and there are manly guys in anime too. It's not a bad thing if you do like them but don't pretend "literally everyone uwu" does.

[Anonymous No.9779520]

>>9779510
"Bishonen" is a title that can be applied to all beautiful males.
I'm not the OP, either, so the "literally all of us" doesn't apply (and it wasn't even offensive to begin with). That person was just aggro for no reason.

[Anonymous No.9780423]

>>9779510
>>9779520
It literally means 'beautiful boy', and the google image results are quite like that lol. For adult men (20+) it's better to use the term 'ikemen'. And yes beautiful male anime characters are 'bishounen' for the most part, since they are 9/10 times underage. Just look at Fruits Basket, Ouran High School Host Club, Uta no Prince-sama, etc. etc.

And yes, I had a bishie phase when I was a teenager myself.

[Anonymous No.9780523]

>>9764824
This is weird to me too. I'm a lesbian and yaoi makes me super uncomfortable. For me there has to be a girl involved somewhere or I don't like it.

[Anonymous No.9780613]

never had a bishounen phase unless you count pic related

[Anonymous No.9781343]

>>9774402
Hi I'm a support main