Professional Cosplay

[Anonymous No.9718461]

How did professional cosplay become a thing? I just saw a special about how some cosplayers take in 50k USD a month from appearances and swag. Yikes!

You're thoughts? Cosplay used to be about passion for the character you dressed up as. Shame, I say!

[Anonymous No.9718475]

It’s about knowing how to put yourself out there. Post every where you can and boost the shit out of yourself. It helps if you can start some drama about yourself to get people to talk about you and then lure more people in out of curiosity. In most cases this is how people got noticed. They used people for climbing then threw them away once they got what they wanted.

For Jessica though, she got her fame because she won a contest to be a promotional booth babe for lolipop chain saw. From there she got noticed more by more people. Sad but true, being a little slutty does get you places in the industry. She happened to do herself well. Whiteknighginf herself here and other places till people actually knew her name.

[Anonymous No.9718489]

I think Maul Cosplay is amazing and deserves every penny for the efforts and performances as Geralt.

[Anonymous No.9718491]

>>9718461
Honestly I don't have an issue with it, if people want to put stuff out there and they can get paid enough to make a living off of it then good for them. If you love to cosplay and have the opportunity to do so professionally, why wouldn't you?

[Anonymous No.9718512]

>>9718461
It’s still about passion. Just some like to use it for attention. If you’re still passionate about it, don’t let someone who’s using it for income stop you from doing the best you can do. Face it, there will always be someone better then you. When you stop letting that get you down, cosplay is still a lot of fun. Ignore those who are only doing it for money. Do what you want. Good cosplays still get noticed. Accuracy and craftsmanship still gets noticed. You simply have to put your effort into it.

[Anonymous No.9718548]

>>9718489
He's no different than Jessica Nigri of Yaya Han. They're beautiful women who Cosplay, he's a handsome guy. Yet they have more haters.

[Anonymous No.9718612]

>>9718548

does he sell sexy photos in his underwear?

[Anonymous No.9718614]

>>9718612
He shows as much skin in his calendar, if not more

[Anonymous No.9718616]

>>9718614
That’s pretty in character though. What yaya and Jessica do isn’t. They find a character that wasn’t skimpy and make a bikini or some way to focus it on their boobs and figure.

[Anonymous No.9718622]

>>9718616
The effect is the same; Sex appeal.

[Anonymous No.9718631]

>You're thoughts? Cosplay used to be about passion for the character you dressed up as.
Just like there are artists who do it for fun, there are professional artists. I don't see how cosplay is any different.

[Anonymous No.9718634]

>>9718489
[Nitpicking]
I like him and all, but I'm really butthurt about how he's a self-proclaimed stuntman, yet his Witcher videos-The fight with Triss on his side and the Japanese Witcher thing-Show he barely knows how to use a sword, let alone make a good fight scene.
[/Nitpicking]

[Anonymous No.9718647]

>>9718622
Not really. He’s acting in character since that particular character has a lot of nude scenes. He still looks exactly like him in character and all. Jessica and yaya are out of character acting sexy for other wise non sexy characters. Gender bending can be done without it being sexual. They gender bend making it sexual. There’s a difference from being sexual for attention or likes, and sexual because it’s in character and something you can see the character doing if they where real.

[Anonymous No.9718669]

The number of cosplayers taking home 50k a month only on appearance fees could be counted on one hand generously. Even Yaya makes a large amount of her income off her cosplay products and accessories, not herself.

This is a non issue. Anyone that makes it out to be one had no idea what they're talking about.

[Anonymous No.9718670]

Hint: It's not professional "cosplay" per se, it's professional sex work. Show me a cosplayer who makes over 1k on Patreon and isn't all about sex appeal.

[Anonymous No.9718748]

>>9718461
>For Jessica though, she got her fame because she won a contest to be a promotional booth babe for lolipop chain saw. From there she got noticed more by more people. Sad but true, being a little slutty does get you places in the industry. She happened to do herself well. Whiteknighginf herself here and other places till people actually knew her name.
There is a difference between cosplay and being a promotional model (aka "booth babe"). I am not against booth babes and I understand that sex sells, yes. However, being a booth babe wearing a costume and being a cosplayer are not mutually inclusive.

[Anonymous No.9718750]

>>9718548
>Jessica Nigri of Yaya Han.
>They're beautiful women who Cosplay,
You need to get your eyes checked brah. Bad surgeries, oversized implants, and receding hairlines aren't typical features of "beautiful women"

[Anonymous No.9718854]

The only issue have is that I consider this a subset of actual cosplay yet 'sexy cosplay nerd girls' have become the representation people expect.

[Anonymous No.9718890]

>>9718461
Same thing that happened to cosplay in general. The commercialization of it killed the creativity. Now you seldom see handmade cosplays. Sure, it made it a lot more accessible, but it's also made it more soulless.

It's kind of like how bake sales used to be stuff that was all homemade, and now it's all shit you buy at the closest supermarket upcharged a ton. Where's the care and thoughtfulness?

[Anonymous No.9718903]

>>9718890
>Seldomly seeing handmade cosplays

Really? I do think the AliExpress era has made it more accessable, but I still think there's a large amount of people who make their own stuff.

[Anonymous No.9718937]

>>9718890
True dat. When some rando slut posts a pic of her "cosplay" which is an ebay bought D.va lycra catsuit, I chuckle to myself while scrolling past it. Mass-manufactured store-bought garbage never counts as cosplay.

[Anonymous No.9718953]

>>9718461

>Not posting the superior ORIGINAL version

Your shitpost-fu is weak shenpaaaaaaiiiii

[Anonymous No.9718969]

>>9718670

Doesn't exist.

[Anonymous No.9719036]

>>9718670
>>9718969

Kamui makes $380 per week

[Anonymous No.9719167]

>>9718750
Butt hurt natural, albeit ugly woman detected.

[Anonymous No.9719249]

out of all possible careers out there, 'professional cosplayer' has to be the worst. Not just because the damage it did to hobby as whole, but as career period.

You have maybe shelf-life of 5-10 years depending on how soon you start. Even if you managed to make yourself look decent by age 30, there will be other cosplayers just like you with younger and bigger boobs. So your 'professional career' is over before you even hit 40, and now you have to look for actual job where they'll laugh at the idea of 'professional cosplayer' because many HRs don't go to conventions.

Really, what's Jessica gonna do by age 40? cosplay with boobs out when there are copycats of her 20 years younger somewhere in Arizona?

cosplay as a career is a joke. You might be able to use sewing and social media management to get other jobs, but cosplay itself... no.

[Anonymous No.9719258]

>>9719036
So practically nothing?

[Anonymous No.9719261]

>>9719036
that's like part time job money. I wouldn't call that professional.

[Anonymous No.9719267]

>>9719249
They gotta start cosplaying those MILF characters

[Anonymous No.9719268]

>>9719267

[Anonymous No.9719275]

>>9719268
You jest but it might be viable, there are "older" characters that are best portrayed by someone close in age and MILF is a profitable category. I don't know if anyone has done this successfully yet but someone could if they were savvy and could project the right persona.

Cougar cosplay would probably be rare, if only because many of these women are going to start getting married and having children. Either their husbands don't like it, or pregnancy will wreck their bodies, or maybe they just can't schedule the time anymore or whatever but I predict only a few cosplayers will be able to make this transition.

Might be cool to see a Dr. Chakwas cosplay by someone in their 40s though.

[Anonymous No.9719278]

>>9719249
she will just select and marry one of the beta orbiters with money

[Anonymous No.9719285]

>>9719249
Jessica makes 50k USD a month and she and her boyfriend live with her parents. She's been doing this for 6ish years and is only 28. Even if she only has two years left, she will have made over four million dollars by the time she is 30. If she invested even half of that she could earn 200k interest a year, which in Arizona is more than enough to live a comfortable life.

[Anonymous No.9719287]

>>9719278
She already has a Chad bf

[Anonymous No.9719292]

>>9719285

>> four million
>> not including state and federal tax in your calculation
>> not including general life expenses
>> actually believing someone can make 50k off of going to one or two convention per month and selling bland picture poster everytime

[Anonymous No.9719301]

>>9719292
Cost of living expenses in Arizona are low. She also lives with bf and parents. Most of her "income" is mailed donations, which aren't taxed. She also has proven she makes 50k a month and gets free rooms, convention attendance.

[Anonymous No.9719334]

>>9719167
I'm a dude, bro.

[Anonymous No.9719340]

>>9719285
She didn’t invest it last I heard. So she could settle with it. But let’s say she didn’t okay. Now I live in Arizona and know a little bit of her lifestyle she prefers. That money wouldn’t support her and her luxuries without some other type of income. Jessica needs to find something that she can at least make some money off of over time because her looks will start to go and soon. She won’t last long here unless she can marry some Scottsdale doctor or get into the porn industry that works out of here. Either way, she will be in trouble if she doesn’t manage her spending when she’s a has been. But that’s not my concern. Yaya has her sewing patterns and she can live off of that. Jessica has no tallents she can market herself off of other then how she’s trying to be a model NOT associated with cosplay.

[Anonymous No.9719347]

>>9719340
Four million is still a lot, investments or not. She's also a professional voice actor and will probably continue in that industry, or get a job in Hollywood, media, etc.

[Anonymous No.9719354]

>>9719347
>professional voice actor

You mean for a game all her lines where removed from? Lol don’t make me laugh.

[Anonymous No.9719371]

>>9719347
you're bloody delusional. She's not a consistent voice actor, her one actual anime voice acting was a throw-away project only virgin betas would watch. Not to mention, she's too superficial to be accepted by hollywood or most media out there (bleached blonde hair, fake boobs).

Maaaybe porn industry, but not legitimate media outlets.

[Anonymous No.9719427]

>>9719354
She did the voice of that pink haired boobie girl Super Sonico.

[Anonymous No.9719430]

>>9719427
Oh god she sounds horrible. Maybe she needs to stick to her face on pictures and not open her mouth. That was bad and you should feel bad for mentioning that.

[Anonymous No.9719452]

>>9718616
>they find a character that wasn't skimpy and make a bikini or something
Jessica does this, Yaya doesn't.
Yaya picks costumes that already had the tits out to begin with.
Not that it matters much, I have other things I dislike Yaya for anyway.

[Anonymous No.9719453]

I would support crafters who actually invest back into the community. Even if Yaya is literally a bitch from hell, she puts her patterns out there (even if there are better ones and her fabrics are tacky), she knows her craft and at least some baby cosplayers out there will pick up her patterns to try to learn how to sew and grow from there instead of amazon prime ordering something from miccostumes, and then posting pictures for a pateron only lingerie set. A lot of big name cosplayers get drama, but I appreciate the kind of hard work Cowbutt Crunchies for example bring to the community. It's better to inspire a community with the work and education of learning new things while making a cosplay than showing some 16 year old that the only thing that matters is how hot she can look on instagram.

The number of young cosplayers in my community that went from baby's shitty first costume to quickly being disheartened instead of inspired by the community and helped to work towards better costume making and seeing only Mooriahs and JNigs in the scene have them starting lewd and nude patreons the instant they turn 18. The need for cosfame to be correlated with looks instead of craft is so frustrating. There's nothing wrong with profiting off your genetic lottery win, but I really miss the open collaboration and education that used to happen in the cosplay community.

[Anonymous No.9719460]

>>9719453
This^

There used to be so much help in the community when it came to cosplay. Now it’s become a “ join my patron and MAYBE I’ll help you learn how to make cosplays. But first let me show you my 500 selfies of me doing makeup cosplay”. My communities have maybe MAYBE one cosplay 101 panel and even then it’s not “how to” and more “ buy my book of photography”. I wish there was more people willing to help show you how to do something new when you ask “hey how did you do that” and get someone telling you how they did it other then “ I didn’t, I got it from someone else who made it” and don’t tell you who actually made it so you can ask. I get trade secret and shit, but man people have gotten so inflated in this community that you litterally have to suck figurative dick to get any direction of help to improve.

[Anonymous No.9719607]

>>9718634
He's a stuntman, an amateur, making shiity shorts. It's like filmmakers claiming to be filmmakers when all their content is limited to their personal web site or Youttube/Vimeo at best.

[Anonymous No.9719609]

>>9718903
Dye sub suits are taking over now! I'm sure Zentai Zone, Brandon Gilberto and others are making a shit load of money off these new crop of cosplayers

[Anonymous No.9719850]

>>9719036
Damn, that's pretty bad. $1500 a month. I make three times that amount at a normal day job, I wonder how she can even afford cosplay materials. It goes on to show you that cosplayers with their reputation focused on the craft don't make shit. And to be fair she does show a lot of skin in her cosplays which probably boosts her patreon money a bit.


>>9719453
>The number of young cosplayers in my community that went from baby's shitty first costume to quickly being disheartened instead of inspired by the community and helped to work towards better costume making and seeing only Mooriahs and JNigs in the scene have them starting lewd and nude patreons the instant they turn 18.
Fucking. This. I actually see young girls starting to wonder if they should start making tiddy cosplays just to feel a sense of belonging to the community because it's dominated by people like them.

[Anonymous No.9720094]

>>9719850
>>9719036
Are you guys literally dumb? That 380 per week is free money people give her via patreon because she cant make money off her youtube videos due to past copyright issues. She makes money in addition to that from her books, apperances, sponsors, etc lol

As for Jnig, she makes 50k+ on patreon. Once again she gets money from appearances, sponsors, her bit of voice acting (sonico, RWBY, whatever else).

Jnig, Kamui, Yaya, Vamp, they all have their hands in other projects not just whatever patreon gives them

[Anonymous No.9720114]

>>9719460
I think a lot of that was more that forums like cosplay.com went out of style coupled with people having expectations that everything be presented visually to them. It was a lot easier to just tell people what to do rather than have to shoot up a whole ducking tutorial for their problem. There are plenty of resources out there, honestly FAR more than when I was getting into the community 15 years back.

[Anonymous No.9720137]

>>9720094
That's 50k a month!

[Anonymous No.9720170]

>>9720094
Someone's never worked a day in a life before

[Anonymous No.9720173]

>>9720170
what the fuck are you on about

[Anonymous No.9720219]

>>9719275
Semi related to this, one of my favorite cosplayers got pregnant and I don't know how to feel. Her craftsmanship is incredible and I don't want to see her stop. She plans to pregnant cosplays but once that baby pops out she probably won't have anytime.
Im really happy for her, but babies are death to careers and hobbies.

[Anonymous No.9720237]

>>9720219
You really don’t know how to balance a hobby with a kid do you. It won’t end a cosplay career. Babies sleep and you can put them in play pens to keep them in a place that’s safe while you work. Not to mention day care. Many stay at home work from home parents put their kids into day care just so they can have a few hours to them selves. And is the father present? Does she have parents that didn’t disown her? Have you ever heard of a baby sitter? Cosplay don’t take you every hour of every day to make. Most cosplayers only work in short three hour bursts. So nap time would be a good time to get some cosplay work done.

[Anonymous No.9720246]

>>9718461
the shop on her boobs though

[Anonymous No.9720292]

>>9720246
Her boobs? Really? Her waist is shooped so badly and you’re talking about her boobs?

[Anonymous No.9720296]

>>9720237
>You really don’t know how to balance a hobby with a kid do you
Most people don't.

[Anonymous No.9720320]

>$380 a week isn't much
>$1500 a month is pretty bad
Is America really that expensive to live in? I could live luxuriously by my standards on the equivalent of that amount of money.

[Anonymous No.9720325]

>>9720292
>>9720246
Why talk about a fan shoop at all?

[Anonymous No.9720342]

>>9720320
It varies from city to city, state to state, but it is quite hard to live off $1500 a month in many areas in the states, particularly if you live on your own.
In the smaller city I lived in during college, it was pretty much impossible to find a place to rent for less than $650 (excluding utilities), and those were usually either very small studios or very shitty one bedrooms.
2-5 bedrooms would run you $500-800 a person, plus utilities.
For my one bedroom ~20 minutes from town by bus , my roomie and I paid ~1200-1400/mo depending on the season so $600-700. I spent about $300 on food, toiletries, transport fees, school supplies, etc.
So already I was at about $1000/mo, and I lived a pretty quiet, low-key life in a small college city. I didn't even have a car, insurance, or student loans I had to pay for at that time.
I actually had to quit my job and move home to be a neet temporarily because I couldn't afford to live there with the job I was working.

>tl;dr
The US can be very expensive.

[Anonymous No.9720346]

Nigri makes better cosplays that any fat uggo woman on this board will ever do

[Anonymous No.9720355]

>>9720346
>implying she makes her cosplays
>continues to try and trigger a shit storm here

Your going to go far anon. So very far.

[Anonymous No.9720383]

>>9718890
Oldfag here. You said what I have been thinking for years.
I was happy nerd stuff was less looked down upon but now people are just ebaying/aliexpressing damn near everything. I go to compliment some really nice sewing or a wig I like and they shrug and say they bought it . Then I have to make up some platitude and walk away.
In the past you KNEW someone was crazy about some show/game/whatever because they had to pause that shit and look at every aspect they could to try and create it. Now you can just sorta like a show, pick out someone who looks like you, and hit that buy button. Get your costume in 3-6 weeks.

Way more soulless now.
I'm glad more people can express themselves but what are they expressing really with a search engine and a debit card?

I miss that care I used to see. I miss the utter glee we would feel when we figure something challenging out.

[Anonymous No.9720397]

>>9720383
You've been able to steal reference photos from the internet for 20 years; looking at ref images isn't the primary change.

[Anonymous No.9720414]

>>9720383
Don’t tell them platitudes. If you’re dissapointed in their response, be disappointed. People aren’t going to change from pay to play if you treat people who went shopping like cosplayers.

[Anonymous No.9720656]

>>9720346
>Nigri makes better cosplays
>makes
lol

[Anonymous No.9720683]

>>9720342
>tfw live in CA for school and pay 1900/mo for a 700 sqft apartment
>feels bad man

[Anonymous No.9720750]

>>9720683
>tfw live in Bay Area and pay $2400 for a 700 sqft apartment

I need to get out of here.

[Anonymous No.9720815]

>>9720683
>>9720750
Hey, that apartment was a good deal. They kept bumping our rent up year after year, and now it's $1300 a month. I think it's around 700 sq. ft. too. With none of the benefits of living in California.
I'd never move to the Bay Area, NYC, etc. because of rent though.

[Anonymous No.9721203]

I can't help but to wonder, when is Hustler and Vivid gonna get in on this? Their porn parodies are basically just cosplay porn. I can see porn studios sending porn stars to sell prints. You think that will effect the other efamous cosplayer sales?

[Anonymous No.9721288]

>>9720383
to be honest I'm a newfag to cosplay but I've been into anime/vidya for a while now. I'm just getting into sewing now as a side hobby and because it seems super handy to know.

It's more than a little disheartening when you see people that are "sponsors" for whatever anime-brand or apparel company get paid for cosplaying store-bought cosplays. There's no... passion for it. It's even worse when they brag that they "really love cosplaying" or act like they're some big-shot cosplayer.

The obvious thots get the most attention and hate from /cgl/.However, I respect thots that made their shit. At least they went through the effort to do so.

I really wish I knew more people around where I live that also sew/make their cosplays, but nobody does either that's within my age (~22).

[Anonymous No.9721406]

>>9719287
This is what you think a chad looks like? Sad times.

[Anonymous No.9721419]

>>9719287
> defends your Instagram

[Anonymous No.9721808]

>>9721203

There is a huge difference between the porn with plot and cosplayer doing unsolicted sex work type of cosplay sex appeal for porn actresses. The people who buy/pirate cosplay porn without plot wants well done cosplay outfits. Not the cheap spirit halloween stuff.

[Anonymous No.9721847]

>>9718461
Her face does not look like this in person, bitch is haggard af

[Anonymous No.9721973]

>>9721419
>>9721203
I have watched quite a bit of cosplay porn parodies, and I still have yet to see a halfway decent costume. They're all pretty much K-Mart level garbage that is often barely recognizable.

[Anonymous No.9722004]

>>9721973
I thought the twi'leks were okay

[Anonymous No.9722892]

>>9721973

What would you make of the JAV ones? TMA or the CDPE series?

[Anonymous No.9722946]

>>9721973
Not talking that pixilated stuff. I mean the Axel Braun ones.

[Anonymous No.9722953]

>>9719301
she and bf bought a house earlier this year, so I think her expenses are a little higher now

[Anonymous No.9722972]

>>9720383
I've found that like attracts like. My group of cosfriends all like crafting together-it's a huge part of how we spend our time together even if we are cosplaying from all different things. When I go to cosplay meet ups at cons, I find that sparking up conversation with other people who made their costumes is a lot easier to maintain a connection with. My group has become a small but growing hodgepodge of people who all like to craft and share resources/spaces we all own. It's been really difficult and rare that we ever keep friends who bought their stuff. Any that stick around actually start making their own costumes with us.

[Anonymous No.9723532]

>>9720094
No, you're the dumbass here. Her books don't make shit (they're cheap and not a lot of people buy them), I doubt anyone pays for her appearances besides housing and flights and the sponsored goods are mostly materials. She probably splits the profits with her husband too and you have to subtract material fees from everything she sells. They're definitely not swimming in money like coswhores are.

[Anonymous No.9723670]

>>9722892
I find the majority of JAV stuff to be unwatchable because I don't like censorship in my pornography. Pixelization over genitals just kills my erection.

[Anonymous No.9723793]

>>9723532
doesn't he do mobile app development as well? with a 3 floor house and 2 dogs, they must be getting money somehow since they have a fancy 3D printer to pay for now.

[Anonymous No.9723811]

>>9723532
She managed to buy a 180 square meter house a year or two ago. And that’s with neither her or her husband doing any other work than cosplay related. Since then they’ve also bought two purebreed dogs and have taken regular holidays abroad. Her books sell very well, she wouldn’t be approaching 10 or more books made if it wasn’t financially worth it.

Sure she’s not a millionaire and she couldn’t retire right now like Nigri could but she certainly makes enough to live a very comfortable life. I doubt her husband would have quite his job to help her full time if the income wasn’t good.

[Anonymous No.9723824]

>>9723532
>I doubt anyone pays for her appearance
Then you would be wrong. Her appearance fee is a couple grand.
It's why I'm still fucking furious over the whole Fan Expo thing with her ditching to fuck off at the aquarium. I have never, ever seen her apologize or answer for that, either.

[Anonymous No.9723836]

https://web.archive.org/web/20160707191005/http://hollywoodcellar.com/index.php/2016/05/01/cosplay-model-jessica-nigri-probably-makes-more-than-you/

read it

[Anonymous No.9724047]

>>9723670

Ture. But would you say the outfits are better than the Vivid and Hustler ones as the girls are usually of the regular photoshoot turned "amateur" porn?

[Anonymous No.9724075]

>>9723836
Fake news

[Anonymous No.9724092]

>>9723811
pretty sure he's been doing freelance web app development. I know he made a mobile game with micro-transactions a while ago and possibly sold it. And her books don't sell that well, which is why she keeps cranking out new ones every few months now, with topics that other people have done a better job of covering.

[Anonymous No.9724495]

Do you think Jnig is good in bed?

[Anonymous No.9724527]

>>9724495
If you suck her imaginary dick, give her praise, buy her prints and white knight her every chance you can. Maybe she will sleep with you and you can find out.

Sarcasm aside, why does it matter?

[Anonymous No.9724542]

>>9719285
She hadn't lived with her parents for half a year or so now. I think it might be a year soon being on her own.

[Anonymous No.9724959]

>>9721406
>implying you wouldn't spread your legs for him

[Anonymous No.9724999]

>>9724959
My vagina curled inside itself in disgust.
Please be more careful with your words anon, I'm gonna have to pick this shit out with my teeth.

[Anonymous No.9725016]

>>9719287
His arms look like limp noodles. Probably never lifted more than a latte. If this is a chad too you ya must be an omega celler dweller.

[Anonymous No.9725028]

>>9725016
>girls care about big arms
go back to >>>/fit/

[Anonymous No.9725045]

>>9725028
Other than that sleeve tattoo he doesn't have anything going for him and anyone with enough money can get a sleeve.

[Anonymous No.9725054]

>>9725045
Since when are guys experts on what women want?

[Anonymous No.9725057]

>>9725054
Why are you attracted to him then?

[Anonymous No.9725179]

>>9724047
They're both equally terrible.

[Anonymous No.9725287]

>>9725054
As long as women keep refusing to tell us directly, we have the best educated guesses on the planet.

[Anonymous No.9725333]

>>9723824
You're confusing her with Nigri. She was the one who ditched her fans for an aquarium.

>>9724092
This. It's most likely her husband's money. Mobile app developers are paid lucratively, especially if they're freelancers. And her books serve an extremely niche audience and they're constantly on sale, so I doubt they sell THAT well.

[Anonymous No.9725353]

>>9720320
I live near DC where renting a small apartment is at least two grand/month.
If you live in the middle of fucking nowhere you should be fine but I have friends who live in rural VA and still spend $1500/month on rent.

[Anonymous No.9725867]

>>9725287
But when women are direct, you guys still go 'nah that can't be it.'

[Anonymous No.9725909]

>>9725333
> citation needed

[Anonymous No.9725931]

>>9725054
>>9725057
Yeah I thought not.

[Anonymous No.9725933]

>>9718953
>not naming it Nigri hits 300 backers per month

[Anonymous No.9726495]

>>9719249
I agree with this a lot.

I would never want it to be my sole source of income. But it would be nice to make some money off of it on the side. I already have a nice job, so I’m pursuing a more professional “career” in cosplay but with no intentions of quitting my actual job that could sustain me through to retirement.

Though I doubt it’s going to work out for me, I’m already getting a little old for the scene. And honestly I’m confused by what fans are looking for anyways. Getting to a level where you can actually make money off of it seems so random. I would say it’s about being attractive and posting a lot, but I know plenty of people like that (myself included) who also do really quality work that have shit followings. Really doesn’t have any rhyme or reason to it

[Anonymous No.9726667]

>>9725867
Name one instance in which that happened to me.

[Anonymous No.9726690]

>>9726495

You need to pose in your underwear
No one cares about quality
Only boudoir Samus

[Anonymous No.9726710]

>>9726667
How can I? I don't know you, do I? I do know women, including me, who have said 'no' and our 'no's were taken as 'maybe' or 'I just have to try harder' instead of actual 'no'.

Hell I moved to the UK and people here are much more between-the-lines speaking than where I'm from and they're looking for secret messages in my words and sentences when there isn't one. I can be clear as day but they'll still search for it. And if I explain there's none, they don't believe me because /everyone/ hints at things and /women/ are complex, mysterious and impossible to understand, ALWAYS.

[Anonymous No.9726722]

>>9726710
heh so glad you are replying to me....and that I am the first to respond.

First of all, "no' means "NO". Always has and always will be.

Secondly, I moved the UK when I was 30. Been here the past four years, and women are even *more* enigmatic than in the states. Just tell us what you ****ing want already!

[Anonymous No.9726746]

>>9719354
She's Cinder in RWBY

[Anonymous No.9726747]

>>9726722
See, I agree with you. But somehow people don't listen to me when I plainly state my intent or wants/needs. Because there's the assumption I have a subliminal message hidden somewhere.

[Anonymous No.9726757]

>>9726747
You must be fun at parties

[Anonymous No.9726768]

>>9726757
>implying it's fun to leave people guessing

[Anonymous No.9727392]

>>9725867
>But when women are direct
That's never happened.

But let's presume it has.....can you provide an example in which one was and then the guy said 'nah that can't be it.'?

[Anonymous No.9727393]

>>9726746
>> part of the worst voice cast ensemble in recent years of US media history

Some things are better off not being mentioned ever.

[Anonymous No.9727432]

>>9726746
Cinder’s voice was lost for the entirety of season 4, so she didn’t have any lines then which I heard may have been on purpose. Based on how this season is going I can’t see her being around for much longer.

[Anonymous No.9734107]

i think it's fine about the whole pro cosplayer thing especially if outside of it you are actually a costume maker, take Yaya Han by example. but you know you do you.

[Anonymous No.9734199]

Probably not considered an oldfag but I've been cosplaying for awhile. Basically since early teens. As someone who has learned almost everything from the internet it seems like a lot more people don't make tutorials or feel like they should take the time to answer others questions they have about construction. It's like when someone asks kinpatsu about how she did something and then they're directed over to her patreon or store envy for $10 construction notes that could have been answered in probably 5 minutes. It started out as "hey this is so good you could honestly charge money for it," now everyone just thinks that is how it's supposed to go. It's their judgement to call in the end but idk I just miss the personable aspect that you came across a lot more often back in the day. All of those same people that want money for basic construction advice are also the same people that will stomp around yelling about how "I never claimed to be pro! This is my hobby! I'm the same as all of you! Elitists are ruining the community" Ehhhhh no. Not anymore. You willingly crossed that threshold. Should of thought about the standards you would be expected to hold when you started charging for simple things.
>>9720383
Agreed. Sometimes you want to spend your energy making other things so buying isn't bad all of the time. But let's look at Megan Coffey for example. "I'm in the 200s ratings on World cosplay!" Gurl you're sponsored. You're beautiful, but you have little to no personality for any of those characters you threw on for photos that day. It's all super posed and uninspired. That's what I've noticed a lot of with the same type of people.
>>9726746
>>9727393
Anytime Jessica has voiced anything it has been purely for her promotional abilities. Her voice never sounds like anything special to me. Really didn't suit sonico either. I think promo over talent is going to be a trend we see here lately.

[Anonymous No.9734403]

>>9718461
I think it's cool how people can make their hobby and what they love doing their actual job but it's imo a sad state when literally all your money comes from guys who give you money simply for you uploading lewd pics of yourself and not because of your work.

But who the fuck cares about what I think, Jnig is getting way more attention than what I ever will have and laughing all the way to the bank.

[Anonymous No.9734454]

>>9718890
>Seldom see handmade cosplays

What rock are you living under? I seldom see bought cosplays. Go join the replica prop forum or similar Facebook groups about crafting if you want to see handmade costumes

[Anonymous No.9734698]

>>9734199

Let's be real though, at some point there were tons of newbies barging into cosplay expecting to be spoonfed everything, and then talking shit about whoever cosplayer didn't want to spend time giving free answers. Can't really blame cosplayers for charging money for their tutorials, aside from actually getting money, posting clear signs that they're selling tutorials probably greatly cuts down the number of frivolous questions they get, since people now know answers cost money.

[Anonymous No.9735643]

>>9734199
>> I think promo over talent is going to be a trend we see here lately.

I wouldn't say that's gonna be the case. Statistically in 2017, shows that used youtubers as voice actors (some more well-known than jnig) still fell downward. Trend may be good for short-term spark, but it does nothing for any show in long term.

[Anonymous No.9735898]

>>9734199
As an oldfag with 12 years of expertise in cosplaying, I can vouch for >>9734698 here. At some point (maybe 4 or 5 years ago?) when cosplay became trendy we got an influx of newfags frothing at their mouths, outright demanding people to provide them with tons of free, detailed advice, patterns, step by step tutorials etc. because they wanted to become good quick with minimal effort. I remember getting a message almost every day pestering me to walk some complete newbie through my costume just so they can replicate what I did. They didn't even bother to read the replies I posted to other people, sometimes I had to answer the same question multiple times. And if I didn't outright hand out everything for them to leech on, they considered me an elitist asshole. After that period I've been really hesitant on helping people out of good will.

However I do believe information should be free and shared and most people selling it are those whose advice isn't worth paying.

[TwitchyFing3rs No.9736484]

>>9723836
i finally found a big titty police girl

[Anonymous No.9741992]

>>9719460
>>9719453
Shit, one of my absolute favorite crafters, spaceinvader, is a total bitch when you ask her how to do things. I asked her about a specific technique she used or where i could learn to do it, she got insanely defensive with her "I have far too much time and money invested in my business of costuming to release any of my trade secrets. Try going to college and taking classes, like I did." or something of the sort. I was totally appalled with her attitude, especially considering I had taken costuming classes, and was a theater major. Good lord.

[Anonymous No.9741997]

>>9741992
>I have far too much time and money invested in my business of costuming to release any of my trade secrets.
I think that's a pretty valid reason, anon. She runs a business she has established on her own effort and monetary resources. KFC hasn't revealed their recipe for the spice mix to keep competition at bay either. It's a pretty standard procedure.

[Anonymous No.9742015]

>>9741997
I would totally agree, if it were something very complex that I was asking, but it's something I saw many cosplayers doing, and was wondering where everyone learned it. She was just very rude to me about it, like I should feel ashamed for asking

[Anonymous No.9742028]

>>9741997
There's no reason to reply something as rude as this though? She could've just said "sorry I don't feel comfortable sharing how to do it at the moment" or just not replied at all.

[Anonymous No.9742517]

>>9718461
>How did professional cosplay become a thing?

Some attention whoring sluts who couldnt get real modelling jobs tapped into a nerd market, got breast implants then started hanging out at nerd conventions attended by 90% beta male virgins.

Dah.

[Anonymous No.9742684]

>>9742028
>dumb thots keep asking about your shit
> finally pop off

It happens

[Anonymous No.9742721]

> that tiddie Photoshop

[Anonymous No.9742733]

>>9742684
Not if you want to have a good career it doesn't

[Anonymous No.9742758]

>>9742733
Nah they'll do fine

[Anonymous No.9742767]

>>9742758
Sure you well sweetie; report back on how your attitude gets you in a couple years alright?

[Anonymous No.9742777]

>>9742767
K cupcake

[Anonymous No.9746026]

>>9741992
I agree with her expect for the go to classes. If I where you I would stop following her. However she has a right to not give tradesecrets. And you have a right to say "screw you" and leave.

[Anonymous No.9746091]

>>9718489
>>9718548
>>9718634

He doesn't even play the games he cosplays from. Publicly said so in a panel.

[Anonymous No.9746735]

>>9720219
Agreed. #1 reason I'm never having one

[Anonymous No.9746764]

>>9723836
Making money and having talent are two different things. She doesn't have both.

[Anonymous No.9746767]

>>9719427
So she speaks Japanese?

[Anonymous No.9749610]

>Cosplay used to be about passion for the character you dressed up as. Shame, I say!

So, if you're passionate about something it's wrong if you get paid for it? lolwut

[Anonymous No.9749616]

>>9719292
God, I hate newfags who aren't willing to accept Nigri is rich. Like yeah, no one here likes her either, but we don't have to delude ourselves into pretending she doesn't make as much as she does to feel better about ourselves.

[Anonymous No.9749750]

>>9749616
Get off cgl Jessica. We get it, you want to pretend you're so damn rich. Get over yourself.

[Anonymous No.9750224]

>>9726710
because you say one thing and do the complete opposite 2 days later. the only thing to understand you is to completely ignore everything you say and see what you do

[Anonymous No.9750225]

>>9726710
You know how many girls I fucked on the first date who had "no hookup" in Tinder bio? We actually have to try to get things. Maybe the guy being pushy did not work for you, maybe it did not work for the next girl, but if it worked for one girl out of ten it was already worth it. Don't take everything too personally because unless a guy is really good looking, its all about numbers.

[Anonymous No.9750254]

>>9719453
Good post. Though in regards to your last sentence, I think that sense of collaboration is still there. While there’s a larger percentage of people focused only on the looks-side of cosplay now, the helpful crafting side never left.

[Anonymous No.9752010]

>>9720355
>>9720656
You say this and yet she has released a 22 minute video showing and explaining her process for creating her Sindragosa cosplay. I get that the means by which she grew to fame is questionable and her past cosplays may not all be her own, but to keep insisting that she doesn't make her own cosplays at this point is delusional. And the video is available to the public for viewing, none of that "patreon-only" bullshit. So she's even starting to contribute to the community. Hate her all you want but some of the things I see people spew here is just totally outdated information at this point.

[Anonymous No.9752837]

>>9736484
If you bite her she dies though because she isn't a virgin.

[Anonymous No.9752869]

>>9720114
Fucking this. I run a pretty popular cosplay help blog because I love to sew and want to help teach other people to make their own stuff but every fucking question is people wanting to know where they can buy the cheapest cosplays or wanting to be spoonfed every single step of how to make something. It's shitty and annoying, I'm being treated like a search engine instead of a person. I've also seen cosplayers who are usually very open with their methods get shit on and called elitist for not wanting to share a few unique methods they spent a long time developing on their own. Ugh sorry for off topic rant but I saw all these posts being like "but why don't people help other cosplayers anymore?????" This is why.

[Anonymous No.9752927]

>>9719285
She looks mid 30 Jesús

[Anonymous No.9752955]

>>9752927
She could get a lot of plastic surgery with the money she's making.

[Anonymous No.9753093]

If I had $50,000 to spare, I would gladly pay $50,000 to fuck Jessica Nigri in the ass.

[Anonymous No.9753549]

>>9752927
imagine her look in her actual mid-30s.

she better have a back-up career plan

[Anonymous No.9754542]

>>9753093
You can fuck me in the ass for $50

[Anonymous No.9754976]

>>9719285
I'm sure she will be able to continue her career well beyond that. Men love cougars and there's always Photoshop.

[Anonymous No.9754977]

>>9719340
What luxuries do you speak of, anon? Her trips are almost always business related, meaning she doesn't have to pay for them (or gets a tax credit if she does), her figure collection is almost entirely from fan mail, and I never see her wearing designer clothing.

[Anonymous No.9754990]

>>9749750
Not that anon, but did you not even bother looking at the article another anon linked that confirms she's a millionaire?

[Anonymous No.9755369]

>>9722953

Houses are cheaper than apartments in AZ.
3 bedroom house will run you $1000/month,
1 bedroom apt will cost $1200/month

[Anonymous No.9755384]

There's no such thing as professional cosplay. These women get paid to look sexy and be idols. The costumes are completely incidental.

[Anonymous No.9755410]

>>9721203
what i'd like to see more of is Porn that takes place in actual conventions. They have such a particular excited energy and atmosphere about them. I have lots of fantasies about wearing a really cute costume and having a con-stalker follow me down a hallway and defile me while no one is looking. The problem is that there's just a major lack of any erotic material that takes place in a convention itself. Cute cosplayers and lolitas are a pretty niche fetish I suppose.

[Anonymous No.9755413]

>>9755410
>Cute cosplayers and lolitas are a pretty niche fetish I suppose.
>Cute cosplayers and lolitas
>lolitas
Keep us out of your degeneracy, please.

[Anonymous No.9755416]

>>9755413
>us
>as if I don't want my bf to facefuck me in an ap jsk

maybe you're just a joykill

[Anonymous No.9759182]

>>9755416
Sex is bad mmmkay

[Anonymous No.9759201]

>>9755410
>making porn a proper noun

[Anonymous No.9759243]

>>9718670
Kinpatsu

[Anonymous No.9759246]

>>9755410
desu that's really hot, anon

[Anonymous No.9759465]

Do we know if that girl from Heros of Cosplay Riddle/Rikki or whatever is still married? her husband showed up from time to time in the show to help her with projects but she never mentions him on her instagram or anything.

[Anonymous No.9760259]

>>9718461
Oh, Jessica. How I would honour having the opportunity to wipe her bottom after a vindaloo shit.

[Anonymous No.9760743]

>>9755410
Like the Bangbros movies, not a bad idea. Go to a hotel. Have extras sitting in a circle playing a card game, walk past a fake photo shoot. Fuck a cosplayer in a hotel room, or staircase.

[Anonymous No.9760970]

>>9718475
your jealousy, have you seen a psych over it yet

>>9718670
>comparing sex appeal to sex work
tell us again how many top hollywood actresses are prostitutes, all while trying not to sound like a hypocrite

[Anonymous No.9761020]

>>9760970
lemme guess, you're one of those /pol/ loser who shitpost on every hollywood actors' twitter and voted for trump?

[Anonymous No.9761031]

>>9761020
>voted for trump
>a bad thing
fuck off sjw

[Anonymous No.9761084]

>>9720397
>You've been able to steal reference photos from the internet for 20 years

I've been a cosplayer for longer than 20 years.
I said what I said.

[Anonymous No.9761282]

Between nigri, momo and now >>9759687, we're seeing more hypocrisy with these supposed 'career cosplayers'

[Anonymous No.9761611]

>>9746767
Nope.

[Anonymous No.9765844]

>>9726746
>>9726746
Bullshit. Cinder sounds dark and sexy, Nigly sounds dick-drunk and gross.

[Anonymous No.9766081]

Greed and Hypocrisy

It's like they're prerequisite of becoming 'cosplay celebrity'. Worst part, they work together to cover each other. Hell, nigri actually tries to cover momokun's design theft like it's nothing. These crooks, man...

[Anonymous No.9766631]

>>9718489 >>9718548

Don't be so quick to judge. Maul is only creating a fractional part of this costumes. Check out this old stunt team Defcon Unlimited on Facebook, there you can find some information about the real people behind his costumes. He's got a tailor who makes all his fabric parts and a graphic designer making the files for his 3d-printed parts. And what I think is the worst about this: He doesn't credit this people! Have you ever seen him credit anybody else than the photographer or his wife, who does his make-up? Not on his Maul Cosplay page at least...

[Anonymous No.9766636]

>>9746091
>>9718634

Oookay, now the truth is coming out! People have been complaining that he shows anger in the fight scene in this fan movie and that this is not Geralt-ish at all (since no emotions and so on), he replied on to this people, that this was the choice of the director and not him just not knowing Geralt's character at all...

[Anonymous No.9766641]

>>9718634

Wouldn't have been the first time that he bends the truth to his advantage. He once said he knows how to ride a horse and then half a year later he needs to take riding lessons, just so he can ride walk, trot and gallop (the total basics). And then on the other hand suddenly he says he has done ridden Parelli before? Something smells fishy...
(And in the fan film he's just sitting behind Triss - who controls the horse - doing nothing but trying to stay on the horse...)

[Anonymous No.9767819]

>>9718461
Is it true that JNig used to be a huge slut at cons?

[Anonymous No.9767940]

>>9767819
Wouldn't be surprised. Supppsedly she dumped her first bf for current one because he promised he can promote her good, so I can imagine her attaching herself to anyone and everyone

[Anonymous No.9767940,1]

>>9761282
Don't forget Holly Wolf. She is the near the top of these "Career Cosplayers" Even though she doesn't count as one. Like you said about these other women, Holly is a great example of pure hypocrisy. She is not just a model, but a Playboy Model at that. Holly joined up with VICE for a Documentary to explain how she believes wearing sexy or over exposed cosplay's at a family friendly con is ok. She even try's to use the Cosplay is Not Consent BS to make it sound like she's a victim. I really couldn't watch anymore of the bull she was saying.
Video link to her documentary.
https://video.vice.com/en_ca/video/cosplay-centerfold/59f35d11177dd4599d2eff75?utm_source=vicecanadafbca&utm_campaign=global

Also JNIG did the same as Holly and made a Documentary which RoosterTeeth did for her. Seriously?! RT is really loosing respect of their fans for kissing that womans ass for so long.
JNIG DOC VID link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04jUxoXp9Cc