Casual Cute/Girly Gen.

[Anonymous No.9608456]

It's been a while folks...

General thread for "casual" girly styles. Defined styles like himekaji, roma gyaru, otome-kei/soft lolita welcome as well as undefined street style.

Try to keep larme, fairy kei, etc in their own threads...but let's not get too hung up on thread policing.

[Anonymous No.9608460]

>>9608456
Some fall inspo to starts things off...

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[Anonymous No.9609465]

>>9608470
Coincidentally I own this exact same dress

[Anonymous No.9609475]

>>9609465
Jelly, it's super cute! I considered getting an OP from Liz Lisa's autumn collection to add more casual tartan to my collection, but there's just something about it that's putting me off... maybe the big red buttons running down it? Seems almost clownish

[Anonymous No.9609493]

New release from Taobao shop Miwako

[Anonymous No.9609545]

>>9609493
Cute! Is it bad that I kinda want this for roomwear?

[Anonymous No.9609567]

Is Ank Rouge considered himekaji, larme, or just "girly fashion"?

[Anonymous No.9609586]

>>9609567
I thought it was otome in some points.

[Anonymous No.9609625]

>>9609586
I've never actually heard that before!

[Anonymous No.9609714]

>>9609567
It's largely catering to Larme trends lately but when Okarie first started it, it was a lot closer to himekaji. It depends on the item/coordinates individually.

[Anonymous No.9609756]

>>9609545
>>9609493
Perfect for pajamas

[Anonymous No.9610857]

>>9609567
They were a Himekaji brand that jumped over to creating Larme specific pieces when they were featured in the magazine (similar to a lot of other "larme" brands). They still make a fair amount of himekaji stuff if you are interested in that.

I personally adore Ank Rouge and they are far and above my favorite brand for himekaji and other casual cute wear. Great designs and better quality than Liz Lisa, Amavel, etc.

>>9609586
Otome is really more of a western concept, but you can certainly get that vibe with them if you coordinate appropriately and tone down the hair/makeup.

[Anonymous No.9611107]

>>9609586
How can they be otome as a Japanese brand if that term is only used for a fashion style in the West?

[Anonymous No.9611108]

>>9608456
I've always wanted to pull of this brown aesthetic but my skintone is brown ;A;
tfw when you can never be pale

[Anonymous No.9611184]

>>9611107
I mean, I get what they are saying. otome in the west is usually used to describe what mistake called "soft lolita" or generic seiso looks that don't fit into any style we've ~categorized~ in the west. Once himekaji started moving farther and farther away from gyaru, brands like Ank Rouge would make coordinates that looked more like the later than himekaji a lot.

[Anonymous No.9611185]

>>9611184
Misako *

[Anonymous No.9611188]

>>9611108
I'm sorry dude, dressing for skin tone can be a bitch sometimes :(

>tfw I want to wear cute pale yellow coordinates but it makes me look like I have fucking jaundice

[Anonymous No.9611200]

Where do you guys get your clothes? I was thinking of getting things from Taobao but I don't see search terms for otome or larme. Japanese sites would be awesome too!

[Anonymous No.9611206]

>>9611200
I wear casual cute stuff daily, and most of my closet is from:
>Jane Marple
>Liz Lisa
>Ank Rouge
>Axes Femme
>MILK
>Leur Getter
>Various lolita brands (Innocent World in particular)
>Vintage shops & a local "rockabilly" store
>Various western brands, nothing special ("preppy" designers like Ralph Lauren and "punk" designers like Vivienne Westwood have a lot of workable clothes)

But that's just me. Emily Temple Cute is also a great brand, and Amavel makes lots of stuff that fits (but I personally find their quality to be kinda terrible).

I tend not to buy taobao for my daily wear, because I'm of the mindset that the more I wear something the more I'm willing to spend on it. However, the taobao thread has a spreadsheet with stores in it. Check the gyaru tab I believe for himekaji and the other jfashion tab for otome and larme

[Anonymous No.9611231]

>>9611107
Idk it was more about the general feeling of the clothes. Because I thought that it was anon wanted to know, right? Otherwise I'd have said girly fashion of the current trend or sth.

[Anonymous No.9611250]

>>9611206
Are these Japanese brands really worth the price? I understand for Lolita a dress being ~$300, but some of these more simple clothes are crazy for what they are. Don't get me wrong they are cute af, but my wallet.

[Anonymous No.9611261]

>>9611250
In my eyes these simple clothes are more wearable, so if I break down the value of a piece to cost per wear it actually works out to be a better financial investment for me. That being said, I still buy nearly everything secondhand and right now I can't justify Jane Marple's price hikes.

[Anonymous No.9611267]

>>9611108
anon I personally think tanner skin tones look super cute with autumn colors like brown, bordeaux, dusty pink, mustard etc.

sorry for the self post but as an example you can use browns as the main color in your coord but try to accompany it with another (preferably) lighter color. or you can use your skin tone to your advantage and match your outfit with it. I've heard a few lighter skinned girls say they love the dress on the left but it makes them look too washed out. I personally really like the way it looks with my skin tone and I think it gives it a warmer kind of look.

[Anonymous No.9611269]

>>9611267
dropped pic like a dingus

[Anonymous No.9611276]

>>9611261
Do you have any recs for secondhand markets, or should I just look on the classic LM, mercai, fril, etc?

[Anonymous No.9611323]

>>9611276
keI market technically exists to sell stuff like this, but it's pretty slow. still found some things on there though. I mostly check cc for things like leur getter, JM, ETC, and y!j, fril, mercari for Himekaji stuff. lolita desu has a girly kei section you may want to check out.

>>9611250
the less quality stuff like liz lisa are typically cheaper than lolita brand, and the more expensive stuff like JM are frankly far better quality than lolita clothes despite the simple designs. both are pretty cheap second hand (most of my skirts cost me between $20-$60). plus I wear them daily, rather than once every week or two, so I think it's worth it

[Anonymous No.9611325]

>>9611269
is this a self post, anon? these are adorable!

[Anonymous No.9611336]

>>9611323
everyone on cgl hates Liz Lisa lmao.

[Anonymous No.9611691]

>>9608462
Clueless kei

[Anonymous No.9611723]

>>9611336
I love liz lisa, they just aren't as quality as lolita brands. It's not a bad thing, and I think they are priced accordingly.

[Anonymous No.9611727]

>>9611691
You laugh, but Cher is literally in my inspo folder

[Anonymous No.9611730]

>>9611727
Cher is a fashion icon desu

[Anonymous No.9611820]

>>9611250
Tbh I think Liz Lisa is still overpriced for what it is. I understand you have to cut corners somewhere (e.g. cheaper materials if you want the OP to be $90 instead of $250) but I the one skirt I own from them started falling apart despite me not wearing it that often and the rest that I've seen was made from scratchy and thin materials. I think maybe I just got unlucky with the limited pieces I've been exposed to. I love LL's aesthetic so much but I'm scared to waste more money.

I'd probably buy it second hand though, or clearance if i was cheap enough.

[Anonymous No.9611905]

>>9611276
The Japanese market is better than the Western one. Also keep in mind that popular otome brand prints are often overpriced on Closet Child (I'm looking at you, ETC,) but their non print counterparts can be really cheap.

[Anonymous No.9612039]

>>9611820
Honestly I find it so hard to believe whenever anyone says that their clothes items fall apart. Like, I don't think you're lying but What exactly are you doing to them? I'm genuinely curious bc all of mine are fine and I even machine wash. How is it falling apart?

[Anonymous No.9612517]

>>9611325
yes, it is; thank you so much! they're from autumn last year so they're a bit outdated though.

On the topic of Liz Lisa's quality, it definitely isn't as high as lolita brands but it's not Forever 21 quality either. I own about 70+ items including coats, shoes, bags, etc. and the most damage I've had is buttons coming loose and having to resew them.

I agree with >>9612039 about the confusion of clothing "falling apart" if you barely wore it. I bought a fukubukuro skirt super cheap and it was complete shit. The lace was bad, the elastic in the waistline wasn't even sewn to the skirt, the lining was scratchy. I almost never wear it but it hasn't "fallen apart" just sitting in my drawer.

[Anonymous No.9612550]

>>9612517
>>9612039
I tend to prefer having less pieces that I wear regularly, so I actually do encounter clothes literally falling apart (seams ripping, shoes separating from soles, PU peeling, and the like) which makes quality more important to me. However, quality and durability aren't always the same thing and I have pieces that are less well-made/quality that are just as durable or more than my good pieces. Liz Lisa often has thinner fabric, buttons that fall off, cheaper lace, etc but I generally don't have issues with their stuff literally falling apart. In fact, my biggest issues have been with Axes Femme (which is appropriately cheap, especially second hand) and lolita brand shoes and purses.

[Anonymous No.9612554]

>>9611727
I heard peco kei takes inspiration from the same

[Anonymous No.9612772]

>>9612550
I wear most of my Liz Lisa regularly as well. I agree that the faux leather pieces are shit (I mostly buy the clothes and not the purses for that reason) but I still haven't had as many issues with the buttons or "falling apart" as so many people here talk about.
However, I also value thinner fabrics bc I live in a hot climate so I get really disappointed when I get a Liz Lisa item in the mail and it's heavy...

[Anonymous No.9612813]

>>9612772
nayrt but same, I collected loads of Liz Lisa back in 2012-2015 and the quality isn't lolita burando quality but it isn't fast fashion trash either. Having said that I never paid full price for anything, they always had super good deals back then and I had their bedsheets at some point too which lasted me about 3 years. I do occasionally turn the dresses etc. inside out and look at the stitching and they definitely have cut a few corners but they're solid enough that nothing has actually ever 'fallen apart' on me. The worst that's happened is years old pieces gathering lint, or buttons coming loose and zippers getting stuck. I think Liz Lisa is generally worth it if you wait for sales and buy everything 40-70% off, but full price? No way.

Also never expect the fukubukuro stuff to be good quality, I've never bought one but from what I've seen of unboxings/blogs etc. they seem to use lower quality scratchier fabrics and stuff. It's not nearly as nice as regular Liz Lisa stuff. Overall I'd consider Liz Lisa quality on par with Axes, maybe slightly better a few years ago but not by much. I haven't bought from them in a couple years though so they could've gone downhill since? Either way Liz Lisa isn't as awful as gulls make it out to be but don't buy anything full price.

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When does Japan have big sales? I know Taobao has 11.11 but I haven't bought from Japan sites all that much.

[Anonymous No.9612873]

>>9612039
>>9612517
>>9612813
There is an organza ruffle on the bottom, the stitching/serging on which unraveled after about 3 or 4 wears and the raw exposed organza started getting loose threads everywhere. I had to resew it. Additionally, the top of the shirred section of the waistband ripped, exposing the elastic inside.

I have never even machine washed it, just hand washed and dried flat, and I didn't get it caught on anything nor did I do any sort of rigorous physical activity that would have strained the waistband. I always put it on and took it off gently (though I realize mentioning that probably opens me up to suspicions of being fatty-chan and ripping the skirt that way, but there ya go).

Come to think of it, it was also a fukubukuro item which seems would explain the poor quality. From observation the waistband is constructed pretty cheaply - usually the raw edge of the skirt would be encased in the waistband but the waistband and the skirt are sewed separately and then serged together. The waistband isn't interfaced, either. I did buy it second hand, though I know the original owner wore it maybe once. It cost me a small fortune in shipping. I was just disappointed because it's a piece I love a lot but I've gotten more sturdy shit from F21 or taobao. Like I said, I do have limited exposure - I don't doubt that the pieces I've seen at flea markets at cons could have been fukubukuro pieces too from girls trying to turn a little bit of profit.

In fact hearing that y'all have had positive experiences with their regularly things makes me hopeful to try Liz Lisa sometime again in the future.

[Anonymous No.9612912]

>>9612873
If you don't mind showing pics or listing the item number, I can probably tell you if it was a fukubukuro item or not.
Items manufactured just for fukubukuro are extreme shit (altho I think the coats are OK considering what you're paying) but people also complained their heads off when Liz Lisa put older stock in the LPs (that were regular quality). You can't really get both imo.
At one point, Liz Lisa had a suitcase fukubukuro with 11 items that cost like $200. Of course the items are going to be shit.

[Anonymous No.9612913]

>>9612912
>>9612873
F me, I just realized you know it's a fuku item. Sorry, disregard.


Trying to get back on topic, any specific accounts people like to follow that actually post outfits and not just aesthetics of bent knees and feet?

[Anonymous No.9613613]

At first I wasn't sold on Peco Club but now I'm really considering buying from the brand. I could live without the crimped hair though

[Anonymous No.9613671]

>>9613613
the crimped hair is adorable. it's the creepy larme lite makeup & pose I can live without

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I love cute/comfy suspender over all dresses. I would wear them everyday if I could

[Anonymous No.9613681]

>>9613613
I just googled them and holy hell this is cute. Cher would approve >>9612554

[Anonymous No.9613709]

>>9613613
>mfw I first read it as Pedo Club
>mfw I have no face

[Anonymous No.9613718]

>>9613671
that's one style completely unrelated to larme

[Anonymous No.9613724]

>>9613613
I don't know why I'm even surprised at this... I thought cgl would know about the most popular harajuku things.

[Anonymous No.9613727]

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>>9613709
I don't know why I'm even surprised at this. I guess I thought cgl would know about the most popular harajuku things.

[Anonymous No.9613740]

>>9613718
I mean I was mostly being sarcastic, as I find the constant ragdoll posing and "fuck me daddy" faces that seem so prominent in jfashion brands after Larme got big annoying but okay.

[Anonymous No.9613745]

>>9613727
CGL is made up of the same people as the rest of the JFashion community. Despite salt, we aren't going to be any more informed than your average lolita.

[Anonymous No.9613859]

I need more casual cute stuff to wear like this. I mostly buy lolita and don't really know where else to look for stuff like this. I've had no luck searching the usual sites I go to.

[Anonymous No.9613926]

>>9613745
Ok but I'm pretty my lolita friends know Peco and Bubbles and even my friends who don't wear jfash but are really into jpop and visual kei.

[Anonymous No.9613937]

>>9613745
Ok but I'm pretty sure my lolita friends know Peco and Bubbles. I didn't think gulls're more knowledgeable about jfashion compared to other online jfashion comms, I just thought people would know this very basic stuff.

[Anonymous No.9613975]

>>9613745
Ok but I'm pretty sure my lolita friends know Peco and Bubbles. I didn't think gulls're more knowledgeable about jfashion compared to other online jfashion comms, I just thought people would know this very basic stuff in a casual cute thread for Japanese fashion.

>>9613740
I mean Peco is probably bigger than all Larme models toegether

[Anonymous No.9613991]

>>9613745
Ok but I'm pretty sure my lolita friends know Peco and Bubbles. I didn't think gulls're more knowledgeable about jfashion compared to other online jfashion comms, I just thought people would know this very basic stuff in a casual cute thread for Japanese fashion.

[Anonymous No.9613993]

>>9613859
What are the usually sites you go to and what's your budget

[Anonymous No.9614001]

>>9613859
http://girly-cute.com/?mode=grp&gid=1601877&sort=n

[Anonymous No.9614091]

>>9613859
What specifically in this thread interests you? There are a few styles/brands in here and if you know which ones you like we can point you to where to buy them

[Anonymous No.9614527]

>>9613991
no most lolitas stick to burando and taobao brands or indie shops so they're not really well versed on other harajuku based fashions which is fine i guess but even fucking pixielocks knows about peco and ryuchel

[Anonymous No.9616406]

are there any examples of stuff like this with pants or shorts? skirts are nice but aren't practical every day

[Anonymous No.9616436]

>>9616406
There were plenty posted in the past threads. Someone also posted this link but you might have to go back a few pages
http://liz-lisa.tumblr.com/tagged/pants

[Anonymous No.9616445]

>>9616436
Thanks!

[Anonymous No.9616452]

>>9616406
Yeah, like >>9616436
said this question gets asked fairly often in the thread. Generally, stick with colors in your pallet or light wash jeans. Skinny jeans, cute overalls or baggy boyfriend pants cuffed and worn with a cute top are good for himekaji and the like, while vintage inspired high waisted pants look good with otome items.

[Anonymous No.9619029]

Are there any brands that cater to this kind of palette, sort of autumn/English countryside themed? I know JM does but their pieces are usually a bit pricey and out there as far as prints.

I'm also interested if anyone knows of any workable western/easily accessible Japanese clothing in the same style (not mori, but sort of cutesy English prep). I've just moved to France from another EU country and don't know how customs work here/can't speak French that fluently so I can't order a lot from overseas like I do back home.

Also if there are any French anons here I could use some tips for getting cute clothes here.

[Anonymous No.9619030]

>>9619029
Whoops wrong pic but the same palette and similar style

[Anonymous No.9619042]

>>9619029
You use a SS and ask them to mark down the value to 20 euro. Make sure the size of the parcel makes it believable

[Anonymous No.9619047]

>>9619029
Customs regulations are likely the same as in the last county you lived in- starting at 22 euro

[Anonymous No.9619051]

>>9619047
No, that's wrong
When I lived in Germany they were a lot stricter than when I lived in Finland, there I could order up to 60e as long as it was a small package and they wouldn't care/would only sometimes hold it back

[Anonymous No.9619057]

>>9619029
They're a UK brand but Miss Patina has that kind of styling. I would recommend them if you're on the taller side especially - I'm 5' and some of their dresses don't fit me as well as they could. Quality varies, the more structured items are well made, I've owned two of their knits and they pile like crazy though.

[Anonymous No.9619065]

>>9619057
Aww, that's too bad about the pilling. Their jumpers are what I liked most, also the carmichelle dress which is knitted

[Anonymous No.9619072]

>>9619051
The threshold is normally between 10 and 22 euro. I don't know how strict your local customs and post office was.

[Anonymous No.9619076]

>>9619065
Well, I have one of their knitted dresses too and that one actually fared pretty well. The knit is thicker than the one they used for the jumpers, it also has more stretch so that might be the reason why.

[Anonymous No.9619110]

>>9619072
Yes I am aware, but not all customs officers respect that and I don't want to risk going through a complicated bureaucratic process in a language I can't speak, in the event that they do end up honouring it here. I would much rather buy cheaper second hand on eBay or from European brands even if they do cost more since I can try them on as a bonus and postage fees are also included in the price cap (so tenso is not an option). Capiche?

[Anonymous No.9619127]

>>9619029
I'm french and order lots of stuff from Japan and China, never got hit by customs. I always choose airmail shipping, a lot less likely to be taxed.

[Anonymous No.9619150]

>>9619127
Thanks for the tip! Do you do taobao hauls?

[Anonymous No.9620262]

does anyone have any recommendations for someone with hourglass figues/boobs?
I'm having a especially hard time to find any tops.

[Anonymous No.9620966]

>>9620262
I'm 5'1 and my bra measurements are 32G. Mod cloth has some good vintage options. Personally I wear shareware under my nice tops to kind of make an effort to reign it all in. The fact is you want to avoid anything that makes it look 'stretched' over your bosom. I always go with Ralph Lauren personally especially for suit jackets. They're always perfectly tailored and I'm working on buying his entire fall collection. I always say buy one really nice thing instead of several meh things. I have an hourglass figure too and it always helps when things fit well

[Anonymous No.9622963]

What are some good j-fashion magazines to look for girly - casual - vintage - more mature styles (like otome or soft lolita)? Someone in another thread mentioned Eternita, as well as Kera and some Spoon issues.

[Anonymous No.9623184]

>>9608476
Back when elizabunnii still had her clothing going for her

[Anonymous No.9623238]

>>9623184
Idk about those socks tho...

[Anonymous No.9623266]

>>9622963
Popteen has a lot of good stuff too, since gyaru is basically over now.

[Anonymous No.9626815]

Anons now that it is getting colder, how do you stay cute in the winter? I live in Norway and it rains a lot, will snow later in the year... I would love a Liz Lisa type of wardrobe but for example their boots would get ruined on the first outing.

[Anonymous No.9626835]

>>9626815
If you want to wear skirts in the winter, invest in some thermal tights/leggings. They're a godsend. Earmuffs are very cute when the snow comes around, and a good style if you don't want to mess up your hair (but there are plenty of cute normal winter hats out there as well). Cute mittens/gloves are a necessity lol. I'd get a cute pea coat since everyone will be seeing your coat instead of your outfit. And for boots I'd find the cutest normal boots you can find and make them a little cuter yourself. I'd worry about Liz Lisa quality as well, they're not made for real snow.

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[Anonymous No.9630971]

I love this style, but I personally feel a bit old for it. Is there any way to make it work well with longer skirts or make it look more adult?

[Anonymous No.9631164]

>>9630971
Yes, you can definitely utilize longer skirts.

[[e-mail] No.9631583]

>>9630971
Take a look at fint and their sub-brand an another angelus, amavel, and axes femme. I too feel too old for stuff like liz lisa but the mentioned brands have more mature designs, or at least long skirts.

[Anonymous No.9631646]

>>9611269
anon, i hope that you don't mind me asking but do you have an instagram?

[Anonymous No.9631696]

>>9631583
This is all true but in the last couple of years, Liz Lisa has been putting out a lot of 大人/adult style pieces and prints including longer hemlines.
I know bc some babies on IG won't stop complaining about how the brand is dying bc of it and how they wish it was like back in 2012.

[Anonymous No.9631845]

>>9623238
>not sure about cutest part of coord
I h8 basic new bitches

[Anonymous No.9631848]

>>9631845
Nayrt but those socks clash horribly with the shoes. Off white or beige socks with a lace top of even a complementary color scheme for the stripes and the shoes would make them look less forced.

[Anonymous No.9631851]

>>9631848
honestly, if you take those socks and replace them with plain beige lace tops that coord would be bland af and loose its charm. I was mostly being facetious, as people can like what they like and its a more out there choice, but to me it's the thing that makes the coord work

[Anonymous No.9631877]

>>9620966
>5'1
>32G

*Holy shit*

What the hell is 32G on a 5'1 frame? How do you stand up?

Oh my god puberty must have been brutal, as a fellow short sister you have my condolences.

Oh my god all that boob when you had to wear backpacks which were always too big for short girls...

[Anonymous No.9632503]

girly-cute.com offers overseas shipping now!

[Anonymous No.9632524]

>>9632503
Girly Cute has always offered free international shipping. I bought from them years ago when they actually had a decent selection of burando.

[Anonymous No.9632529]

>>9632524
They didn't have it when I bought from them, and they don't have free shipping now

[Anonymous No.9632559]

>>9631877
Anon, a 32G isn't that big. Here are some women wearing a (self-reported) 32G.
>http://www.brabandproject.com/gallery/search?band=32&cup=G&age=&brand=&sister_sizes=0&search=Search

[Anonymous No.9634945]

Any recommendations for light petticoats? Some of my dresses could use a little poof but my lolita pettis are too much.