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Last thread has been in autosage for a while. To get the thread going, what are everyones favorite summer old school things?

>> No.9560166
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>>9560158
Mine is a small AP strawhat from 2002 but I have been unable to wear it due constant rain. I wish the summer would still come.
>Pic related

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>> No.9560169

Lucky pack skirts have such weirdly small hem circumference.

Not a favorite thing.

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>>9560169
The thing in the corner of >>9560170 is the worst offender of that. It's also really short.

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>>9560158
Not really old school exclusive, but I like when country returns. Gingham, fruit prints, straw bags/hats, etc.

>> No.9560200

>>9560175
Ugh yeah that too.

I'm trying to coord a skirt that came in a LP and is2g it's three inches shorter and a good foot and a half less full than a normal skirt. Cheap asses. And the worst is when a certain colorway/cut is only in LP version T_T

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>>9560158
Fishnets, can't abide thick OTKs in really hot weather. Thinking of getting into platform sandals too since injection-molded pleather shoes is suffering in hot weather, but they're hard to find and harder to work into a coord in a way that doesn't look horrendous. Or maybe shoes with an open side like >>9560192.

I want to love parasols because they're useful and really fucking cute, but I get 10x the stares of normal if I'm using one when it isn't raining. Last time I wore one out with oldschool someone compared me to the horrible transvestite character from Little Britain and it made me want to die.

>> No.9560357

>>9560192
That was my dream dress for years.

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Has anyone owned these Meta platforms? I'm kicking myself for not getting some when they were on the webshop a couple of years ago, I have a mighty need for Meta stripper shoes now.

Also requesting coords with them, I'm obsessed right now and wish I'd saved more.

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>>9560449
Forgot to mention, the reason I asked if anyone had owned them is because I want to know how the fit is, if they're comfortable, etc. I've owned shoes from BtSSB, IW and Queen Bee but never Meta so I don't know how their sizing is.

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>>9560457
I know Laur-an had a pair of the ones with cross straps like this.

>> No.9560459

>>9560457
They are fairly true to the size and are quite comfortable.

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>>9560458
With iconic velveteen series.

There's a red pair on Violet Blue right now but I'm only really looking for white (I have way too many pairs of black platforms already):
http://item.rakuten.co.jp/violetblue/10003707/
http://item.rakuten.co.jp/violetblue/10003707/

>> No.9560464

>>9560459
Oh, that's good to know. I'm a 23.5-24.0 in most Japanese shoes so I was hesitating between 23.5 (M) and 24.5 (L). It's not a style that would be easy to hide insoles in so I'm really worried about getting it wrong.

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VM roomwear/underwear up on Wunderwelt! Go live your lifestyle dreams.

https://www.wunderwelt.jp/products/w-27237

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>>9560158
I like crochet lace gloves with country but they're kinda pointless. They look so summery but make my hands sweat more.

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>>9560449
Not sure if these are Meta but I think so?

>> No.9560558

>>9560336
Don't care so much about what people think, anon. I can't leave the house without a parasol and get the odd "lol it sure is raining isn't it?" remark every now and then but I'm not bothered, people can laugh at me while they sweat and reek in the sun if that's what makes them happy.

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>>9560548
I would also love a brand basket bag, but just thinking about the shipping on such a bulky item makes me break out in a cold sweat (this one is like 10k yen anyway and I think it's more recent?):
https://item.mercari.com/jp/m31484139235/

>> No.9560636

I come bearing content! I had some spare time earlier this week so I translated an article from an old GLB. I know there's a lot of Meta fans in these threads so I figured I'd post here. I'm not a professional translator, so sorry in advance for awkward wording.

The following is an article written by Ms. Kato, the former Meta designer and current Physical Drop designer, about the founding of Metamorphose and her approach to designing Lolita. Found in Issue 11 of the GLB.

-Brand Story-

Popular for their original pattern onepieces and skirts, the brand Metamorphose temps de fille!

Being Lolita, without being confined by Lolita, we asked what the secret of their designs that feel of "anything goes spirit" is!

Brand History>

1993 - while enrolled in Osaka Mode Gakuen "Metamorphose" designs were sold in shops via consignment.

1997 - With the present company director Matsuoka, Metamorphose begins operations in Kyoto.

1998 - From Kyoto, the base of operations was transferred to the current Minamisenba location.
- Osaka company store opens.

1999 - Nagoya store and Tokyo company shop open.

2000 - Changing from private management, it becomes the publicly traded "Metamorphose Temps de fille" (LLC)

2002 - The company name is revised to Metamorphose.

>> No.9560639

>>9560636
(Part 2)

Brand Name Origin

The brand's official name is "Manefest Ange Metamorphose temps de fille". All together there isn't really much meaning (laugh) but I liked the meaning attached to each individual part. "Manifest ange" means "manifest angel", while "metamorphose" means "change" or "transform". I found it in a fashion lexicon dictionary, and the meanings resonated with me so I added it in. "Temps de fille" means "girls era"

Like overthrowing the fixed concepts of Lolita fashion, I want to embrace unpredictability!

<Brand Story>

I think there are many of those who wish to become designers who idolize the designers of their favorite brand. My situation was "and so, since I have to eat", so there weren't really any particular designers that I idolized. From about elementary school until high school I wanted to be a writer. I wrote short stories, and was involved in a play so I wrote the script for that too. However, during my high school years a band boom swept the world. I too started a band then, so I wanted that to continue forever. But the reality is that a band won't feed you, isn't it? At that time in order to keep doing things I loved, I felt I had to search for another source of income. Thus, if you are searching for a career, then it's fashion business or beautician. After that, since I like cooking perhaps a chef or something. However, it seemed difficult; beauticians' hands become rough and chapped, and their vacations are few. So I dismissed that idea (laughs). At the time, it was still difficult for women to make a career out of being a chef, so I gave up on that as well. So, by process of elimination, Fashion Business it was. The classes at the vocational school were at night, and the tuition was cheap. So I thought "this is it!" And moved forward.

>> No.9560641

>>9560639
(Part 3)

Still, from the start the feeling was that I loved Lolita. It's not that I couldn't continue with Fashion Business, or that I didn't like it. The genre was not in question; I loved western clothes, it was only what particular brand I liked I didn't know. During that time, I became friends with a shop clerk and a customer at a store near my part-time job. They told me "there's a shop you might be interested in!". That shop turned out to be a select shop that carried the indie brands of the day, but today those brands are famous one-of-a-kind and Lolita style brands dealing in western-style clothes. I saw that shop and felt a change in me "It's alright to not be trendy, just me making clothes with this feeling is good." Isn't it so, that Japanese apparel makers won't sell things that aren't chasing the latest trends? Only inside that shop was there no relation to fads and trends, or in only dealing in so-called standard items. So it seemed to have an amazing charm. "How nice~" I said (laughs). Since I felt like that, from the time I was 20 all the homework I made for school became lolita. However, since the school I was going through was very strict on theme, at first they couldn't accept Lolita at all. At a fashion school they could not accept items that weren't "Mode" yet. Indeed, in both eastern collections and Paris collections the relationship between designs was to exclude pointlessness and emphasize the silhouette of clothes, wasn't it? Lolita was if anything decorative, and so I was shunned and kept at a distance. My assignment scores weren't particularly good either. But I continued to only submit lolita, and depending on the teacher I was met with understanding and they quickly remembered my face (laughs). Surrounded as I was with a school where assignments were contests and Mode style was endorsed, and because clothes were made in the conscious image of idolized designers, I felt that I was incredibly different.

>> No.9560649

>>9560641
(Part 4)

I started Metamorphose while I was in school, and the customers too were girls around the same age as me. Moreover, there were students from the same school, so I felt truly apologetic. When I saw people wearing the clothes I made, I would say "thank you", but with the feeling I was apologizing (laugh). From that time I began to live on the income from Metamorphose. There was an income, but fully half of it went to the cost of materials. It was quite difficult. But I felt it was something worth doing, and those around me continued to offer advice. There were many people who were better with technology than me, or with better grades than me, all aiming to become designers. However in practice there are many people unwilling to change, starting something only to quickly abandon it completely. Thus I think it's not simply about your grades in school and the like, it's something different. Now, because of the internet, individuals who make clothes and other things can easily make themselves known to many people, can't they? In those days we didn't have the internet, so those who went to the shop could tell few people about it.

The brand concept is "anything goes". While the base is lolita fashion, I personally don't only like Lolita, I like the extensive genre of clothes themselves. So at that time I will mix what I want to do with Lolita fashion. Of course there are surely designers who think differently (laugh).

This year it will have been 10 years since the brand was founded, so I think we should go back to the beginning and reset our feelings. Hereafter I want to live doing unexpected things! I think if possible I would like to overturn the fixed concepts of Lolita fashion. Also, within the staff I have started a literary club, and we're writing stories there. One of these days I'd like to make a book out of it! (Laugh)

End

>> No.9560664

>>9560639
She's so pragmatic, haha.

Do you have pictures or page numbers for this? I can look it up in my folder if you don't have your own scans, I'd like to be able to match the text to a picture.

>>9560641
>I saw that shop and felt a change in me "It's alright to not be trendy, just me making clothes with this feeling is good." Isn't it so, that Japanese apparel makers won't sell things that aren't chasing the latest trends? Only inside that shop was there no relation to fads and trends, or in only dealing in so-called standard items. So it seemed to have an amazing charm. "How nice~" I said (laughs).
I really relate to this, I like how lolita can feel timeless (even though it also has its own trends and absorbs outside influences).

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>>9560664
Never mind, I found it.

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>> No.9560692

>>9560664
She is! I was skimming the article and more and more I thought "my god this woman is something!" So I decided to share. I love her way of seeing things, it's so determined and straightforward. Her writing is amazingly candid, both about herself and the world she was living in. I might see if I can track down other things she's written for the GLB.

Ach, thanks for posting the pages, I was working from a physical copy rather than a scan (my eyesight is too poor to deal with scans with such small print) so I didn't have any handy.

>> No.9560734

>>9560692
It'd be cool if an anon could edit the translation into the scan like people on here have done before, I tried to do it but had to give up because this laptop only has Paint on it, haha.

>> No.9560825

>>9560734
Yeah, I only have paint myself. I'm currently posting from mobile but at some point I'd like to make a better edit (with paragraph breaks and such beyond what's in the original to make it flow better in English) to submit somewhere like the lolitahistory archives for posterity, assuming there's even a place for translations. Otherwise I might just post on tumblr.

>> No.9560903

>>9560825
Could post a link to the tumblr post to the Facebook group as well, it's not any kind of permanent archive but it would at least ensure more people see it even if your tumblr doesn't have many followers.

>> No.9560914

>>9560449
They're very comfortable. The incline is not high since they're platforms and the base is strong/wide so you won't roll your ankle. I had problems with the straps being a little too short on my L size (I'm a us 9), but they were great on the LL. I could wear either size no problem, since they're nice and roomy.

>> No.9560951

>>9560903
I'm actually not in the FB group since I left FB years ago. But I'll link here if RD doesn't adopt the translation and people can pass it along (she sometimes is in these threads). If someone were to edit the translation into the image after I do some more editing that would be incredible as well.

Honestly the more I read this interview the more fascinating it is. Maybe it's just my inner meta fan but there seems to be a lot of insight into the mindset of early lolita, and people's thoughts toward it on top of the insight into how the brand was built. I find her practicality so refreshing; she doesn't use flowery language or romanticize much, and she has such a strong commitment to what the clothes represent to her.

>> No.9560957

Oh god I'm an idiot. There's a part I missed copying, sorry guys!This goes after the first paragraph in >>9560649

Now I'm not in a band, and the way of expressing something through music and fashion is different. But I think isn't a person's desire to convey something the same? Music too has a message, and in the hands of who receives it it is changed and transformed into various winds. Clothing too is the same I think. The wind changes and become something new depending on who wears it.

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>>9560460
I own the OP of this in red, and I trust the anons in here more than a general price check thread. The OP is in great condition, what would be a good price to sell it for?

>> No.9560985

>>9560951
I like Kato's interviews, did you see these?

http://egl.livejournal.com/482795.html
http://web.archive.org/web/20021029123144/http://www.h2.dion.ne.jp/~dokuzetu/top-page/ma-metamorphose/about-lolita-1-english.htm

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>>9560984
It sold on mercari recently for 5000 yen but that's way less than what it usually goes for in the western market (and less than usual for the Japanese one, I've seen that series go for 14k yen or more). It's extremely popular and iconic because of >>9560460 and another picture of it being in fyeahlolita's oldschool posts, exposing a wide range of people to it.

https://item.mercari.com/jp/m878648456/

However, I think the bright red is least coveted of all that velveteen series. Black, wine and navy would all be more popular, I've never seen anyone express a deep desire for the red, but I've seen popular colourways like the green go for $150+ on LM IIRC.

>> No.9560996

>>9560336
I don't see anything wrong with no legwear in summer, it looks good in images like >>9560192 and OP

But if you are trying to find those "open side" shoes, they are called d'orsay (d'orsey?) heels/ pumps. That's one of my favorite styles but I don't have any lolita shoes in the style

>> No.9560997

>>9560984
I got my OP in navy as part of a set a year or two ago for about $160. Maybe auction it starting at $100~$150 and see if people bite?

>> No.9561004

>>9560996
Oh, thanks for the keyword, I'm not a huge fan of that shoe style in ordinary fashion but I like it in lolita and am a little sad it passed out of favour. There are some more modern IW shoes with the same detail that I love too.

re: legwear I tend to always at least wear *something* because I'm kind of grossed out by wearing shoes with no socks, I find the sensation and slippery/sweaty feeling unbearable. I'm aware that's just me being weird though.

>> No.9561010

>>9560636
>>9560639
>>9560641
>>9560649
Bless you anon. This was a really interesting read. She believed in it and made it come true, it gives me hope to read such a story, I love it.

>> No.9561065

>>9561010
You're welcome! I might see about translating more from old GLBs, I own 1-30 or so. I tend to not want to sit down and translate properly when I read them so I read to get the feeling for what's being expressed. This just struck me so I sat down with it and put it into words. Make sure you check out the part I missed copying too!

>>9560985
I haven't! But I really like the second one, she's so damn confident and perceptive there. I wish I had the Japanese text of it if it ever existed.

>> No.9561085

>>9561065
I searched hard for the Japanese text since the translation is pretty bad but I couldn't find anything, including when I was looking on her site on the wayback machine. I speak no Japanese though so you might have better luck.

>> No.9561187

>>9560457
Meta's shoes are generally true to size, but avoid the ones with solid wood platforms. Heels are fine, but I've tried two different pairs of their platforms, and both times, the shoe uppers have torn away from the sole after maybe two or three wears, tops.

>> No.9561200

>>9561187
I have two pairs of these, may I ask how old yours were? Both of mine are foam and the ones I got second hand have detached a little from the back but honestly I'm to blame - they are probably not meant to be worn anywhere where they constantly bend. But I'm pretty confident a shoe maker can still repair them and I really hope it's the case as they are my most comfortable shoes. I also have the newest pair of them and they have been holding up fine.

>> No.9561432

>>9559684
That lace with the big leaves and flowers is wonderful Anon! I saved the picture and I'm hoping to find something like it soon, it would look lovely in a oldschool country coord.

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Is pic related old victorian maiden or am i wrong?
i've been dying to find it.

>> No.9561658

>>9561644
it feels more like a meta design, but I could be wrong

>> No.9561666

>>9561644
It's Innocent World: https://lolibrary.org/items/iw-classical-doll-op It pops up on auctions and mercari every now and then, keep an eye out and you'll find it!

>> No.9562411

This might be a bit of an odd request but does anyone have any pics with creepers in them? I broke my foot and my creepers are the only thing level with my walking boot and would like some inspo

>> No.9562423

>>9560989
Agreed, the red is a little bright, I was looking at this one when it was available but never pulled the trigger. But give it a try and see if you get a bite.

>> No.9562444

>>9561200
Both pairs were brand new. One pair I bought in 2008ish I think? The other I bought on auction in 2011, but they were new and had never been worn. I suspect the original owner knew about the fact that the heels/soles separate from the platform with wear, and that's why they got rid of them.

I have no idea how it's possible to walk in them without at least a little bend, to be honest. It sounds like yours have held up better than mine did, though.

>> No.9562692

>>9561666
ilu anon. At what price does it usually pops up?

>> No.9562746

>>9562692
I've seen it go for about 10,000 yen but it's entirely possible you'll find it for much less.

>> No.9563297

>>9561644
A friend of mine has it and it's really gorgeous! Here you go Anon
https://item.fril.jp/87b3cfebdfd93ce59ce6f8c5021156ce

>> No.9563345

>>9560336
Fishnets made a comeback last year

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>>9562411
Sorry, anon, I tried to find something with creepers but it seems like they were more popular in old school decora or general harajuku fashion.
I'll upload four pics anyway just to feel less useless...

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>> No.9563360

>>9560664
>I like how lolita can feel timeless
I also love that you can just disregard trends with lolita and wear whatever era you like. But I think some people try too hard to put coords in a category, which takes away the timelessness. Like if you wear sugary carnival, they want you to wear it in 2009 OTT sweet style or else ''it looks off''. Or when you wear a really old OP with recently released accessories and they assume you are doing oldschool wrong.

>> No.9563430

>>9562444
I was in a summer cottage and the shore was super bumby and I had to get on a boat. So definitely not normal even though it probably doesn't sound so bad bad but I was genuinely worried the sole would damage. I'm sorry for your bad luck though, maybe there is variety in the quality which isn't a good thing of course.

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Has anyone ever got the long lace bloomers from f+f?

>> No.9563771

>>9563603
Yes. And I really like them too. I have them in both black and white.

>> No.9564147

>>9563354
This is really great and I've never seen this pic before. Handmade and customized too!

What is her current obsession? The text is too hard to read over that similarly-coloured rock in the ground. Aya???o-chan

>> No.9564149

>>9563358
It's interesting how this girl's got one of the sweetest, homeliest styles featured here but she's the one that's listed her current obsession as "going to live gigs". I know you do see sweet lolitas in the live event reports in old G&LBs but it's still a little surprising.

>> No.9564196

>>9563603
>>9563771
Yes! Cotton blend, a bit warm but comfy without crumpling too much. The lace used on each batch is different, you might want to be prepared for that.

>> No.9564204 [DELETED] 

>>9564196
Oh dear. I hope mine dont come out too different. I was eyeing the ones elegy has but decided to go with f+f instead because eyelet lace fits my aesthetic much more then that embroidered lace does, and i cant seem to find anybody who sells long bloomers with clunny lace for a reasonable price.

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>>9564147
The text says "Ayaneko-chan".

Also, some more pics because I'm in a fruits love mood.

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>>9564281
I have no idea why it's uploading all the pics turned, sorry!

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>>9564287

>> No.9564293

>>9564285
I always feel bad for the girl on the left. She looks so unfortunate compared to this pic. >>9563356

>> No.9564384

Few things just dropped on Tokyo Alice, someone snatched up the black Karami 3-tier and shirred pin tuck Baby JSK and head bow before I could though. Meta tartan and window print still up.

http://item.rakuten.co.jp/tokyoalice/b03122/
http://item.rakuten.co.jp/tokyoalice/b03120/

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>>9560158
Not really a summer thing, but I've fallen in love with the Btssb Bunny Ear bonnets ever since I saw a girl in my comm wearing one.

Lacemarket doesn't have any up at the moment, does anyone know if they're common on yja? I usually don't go there unless I have a lot of money to burn as I get sidetracked very easily and end up spending more than I should.

>> No.9565228

>>9565194
I use to have a black x black one and it got lost when i moved 2 years ago and ive been looking for one again ever since.

>> No.9565245

>>9560449
There are some on Lacemarket

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Picking this up in bordeaux hnnnng. I don't care that it's summer, velveteen forever.

>> No.9565428

>>9565194
Wow these are super cute, Anon. Now I need one too!

>>9565339
Congrats!

>> No.9565454

>>9565194
I see these on Mercari, Fril and y!a aaaaall the time, they are really easy to find.

>> No.9565476

>>9565454
looks like its time to resist getting sidetracked! Thanks anon!

>> No.9565484

>>9565194
I found a pink one on y!auction.
https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/q151603665

>> No.9565516

>>9560449
They are very comfy but the quality is lacking.

>> No.9565622

>>9565476
https://item.mercari.com/jp/m72151907319/ If you don't want to wait. Cheaper ones have sold recently too.

>> No.9566750

>>9565339
Super jealous, this is one of my dream dresses!

On that note, does anyone know how often items from this series pop up? I'm dying for the Velveteen Tiered OP in black/bordeaux but have never seen it being sold.

>> No.9566762

What do you think of mixing old school elements with new lolita dresses? For example striped socks, a teddybear, peeking bloomers, big black mary janes with a pink/blue/red dress and ringlets. (I know these examples aren't exclusively old school, but combined they make me think of old school)

>> No.9566838

>>9566762
I personally don't mind, but it really depends on which dress.

>> No.9566851

>>9566838
What would be a good and what would be a bad dress for that?

>> No.9566856

>>9566762
Depends on what the end result looks like. That's all there is to it, really - If it works aesthetically then you should go ahead and wear it.

>> No.9566877

>>9566851
Basically what >>9566856 said. Like striped socks wouldn't really go with the dreamy-cross-pegasus-chiffon-whatever AP dresses.
Post it in the coordinate help thread if you're unsure.

>> No.9566912

>>9566877
I'm not asking advice, I was just wondering if people don't like it because I never see it outside magazines

>> No.9566917

>>9566912
I wear drawers that peek and black shoes+light colored dresses with modern (not OTT) classic lolita, it's doable.

>> No.9566929

>>9566912
I think it's just the common trend/mode right now to match everything and use printed tights, printed OTKs, etc. People don't do it because right now it's not really how lolita "is" in terms of how a large percentage of lolitas dress and how shops show things coorded. So it's not that it's bad or disliked, it's just not really shown a lot so people probably don't think to do it. People tend to get used to dressing or planning coords a certain way.

>> No.9567249

anybody have any oldschool bonnet coords?

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>>9567249

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>>9567256

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>>9567258

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>>9567261

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I just snagged this on LM, would anyone be able to ID the year? I already dug through lolibrary.

>> No.9567303

>>9567258
I know it's been asked before, but where do lolitas even hang out anymore? Is there any location where you'd find more? I'm just sad I missed the days when this was common.

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Just got a pretty good deal on this.

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>>9567249
Love me a good bonnet I do

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>>9567828

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>>9567829

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>>9567833

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>>9567839

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>>9567840

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>>9567842

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>>9567846

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>>9567849

>> No.9567857

>>9567300
nice! I was eying it too, but the shoulders are too wide for me

>> No.9567875

Ooooh someone just snagged a LM set with a Meta bunny pochette in it, that made me glad to see.

>> No.9568914

>>9567837
lord almighty, sauce on both the bonnet and dress?

>> No.9569089

>>9568914
Dress is Baby, looks like it's this: https://lolibrary.org/items/btssb-velveteen-standing-collar-op

Bonnet just says "Garland" and doesn't indicate it's also Baby so I'm not sure if it is by Baby or if Garland is/was an indie brand or if it's handmade.

>> No.9569203

>>9569089
If you look at some of the resale sites (Wunderwelt and Alice Fururun are two I've checked), they'll have garland or ガーランド as a brand name category under purchase prices.

I'm not sure what or who it was, though. Google hits are bringing back random listings for other brands like Cornet and AP.

Alice Fururun has a category for it under their "fururun series" (collab items?), but it's empty and can't be clicked on. So I'm at a loss.

>> No.9569291

I'm on a shopping ban so I'm dropping some cheap auctions with roughly 24 hours left for everyone. Good luck!

>BtSSB:
https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/p562731386
https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/e214643038
https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/v509561049
https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/x494422992
https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/f225046639
https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/b255647599
https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/g224625539 (my favorite one)

>> No.9569298

>>9569291

>AatP
https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/u129032592
https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/l342108973
https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/c609259606
https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/n196651270

Having a hard time finding this AatP stuff on Lolibrary so I'm wild guessing.

>> No.9569307

>>9569298

>Innocent World
https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/p563369411
https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/241171647
https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/u152833038 (from 2010 but eh..)
https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/r187074157
https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/b267192171
https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/e219801664
https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/k249265095

>> No.9569318

>>9569307
>Angelic Pretty + Misc because the AP category is a hot mess of mixed brands
https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/p563964056
https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/h220854563
https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/x496064199
https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/x478095968
https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/k226759204
https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/b186972082 (2005 velveteen skirt!)
https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/p563369771
https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/p557531771
https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/l357920467

>> No.9569320

>>9567832
This would be good if she had done her hair and make-up

>> No.9569352

>>9569203
Oooh, interesting! God, the more I find "lost" brands and things from back in the day, the most interested I become.

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I'm curious as to how other people actually wear these - and if brand ones have better ways to fasten it to your head. I only have two colours of pic related, and i usually pin it through the bodyline tag in the middle.
also, do most people put the ties in front of or behind your ears?

>> No.9570090

>>9570079
I hate bodylines ribbons being silk, they dont stay tied for long, they just slip too much.

But anyway, you normally tie anything like these behind your ears, and depending on what you like its normally tied under your chin, although I like mine better tied under my hair behind my head

>> No.9570108

>>9569352
After a bit more poking around, I'm wondering if Garland was another style/not lolita. It was listed with Pink House on one site, for example. So maybe natural kei sites might have more info on it.

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>>9570079
I tie mine behind my ears, and bobbypin the ever loving shit out of the ribbons. I've thought about sewing a small comb or toupee clip to the underside of a couple of the heavier ones I have, though.

I agree with >>9570090

Grosgrain ribbons are easier to pin than the satin ones Bodyline uses.

Another suggestion, Metamorphose has little loops of extra ribbon on the underside of their headdresses and bows from around 2008 and earlier. I use those where I can for my bobby pins. Pic related is from one of their old, wired headbows.

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>>9570079
I tie them at the end of the back (have to put my hair in a ponytail first though) and for heavier stuff (like ribbon headddresses) I use click clack clips (pic related), because pins slide out of my hair and I find them fucking up my hair more than they should.

I have a smaller set of those click clacks, so they don't show much under my headdreses

>> No.9570180

>>9570114
Can I please have the name of this headbow. I feel it is the matching one for Metamorphose's short sleeved tiered ribbon OP, but never have been able to track it down. Woud be nice to have a matching bow to my first brand piece.

>> No.9570188

>>9570180
Here you go, anon.
https://lolibrary.org/items/meta-polka-dot-ribbon-headdress

Happy Hunting

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>>9566762
>>9566917
I just find some photos from 2013-2015 with showing drawers on Rosa Bianca's blog if you are interesetd!

>> No.9571036

>>9569298
There's not that much oldschool AatP because it wasn't even launched as a BtSSB sub-brand until 2004. I'd say the majority of what you've posted in general isn't oldschool but thanks for the cheap links anyway.

>>9570079
Brand ones tend to have grosgrain ribbons, which are way less slippery than Bodyline's satin ribbon.

>> No.9571642

what pettis do you gulls wear with your oldschool? i only have one by meta that really suits all my needs, except it's too long and also a bit too poofy for some of my oldschool skirts. i don't like it when it peeks because it has raschel lace on the bottom. any recs? should i just get a shorter one, maybe a custom one?

>> No.9571695

>>9571642
I have various pettis. I wear my closet child one the most, and on second place my petti from a ebay dancing wear store (victorian girls dresses I believe, but last time I checked their store was gone). my cc petti holds up quite well and has quite the poof I need. the other one has deflated quite a bit, but still works when I need low poof.

I also have a deflated HeartE petti made of tulle that I only use for layering, and I also have multiple halloween grade pettis also for layering.

>> No.9572125

>>9571642
I have a short Meta petti that does me well for low poof, and it also layers pretty well. It's my go-to for old school, otherwise I have a no-brand one that is pretty long and a-line, and a Classical Puppets bell petti.

>> No.9572292

>>9571642
I have a couple of old Classical Puppets ones and a bunch of more recent MeLikesTea ones, plus some cheap no-brand pettis that came free with stuff on auctions. Most of my oldschool fits just right with a single ordinary petti, but some of the velvet stuff needs layering (a lot of pieces with tiered designs can take a lot of poof as well) and some of the less poofy stuff needs one of the thin no-brand pettis. MeLikesTea are comfortable and let you customise the length and poof level so I've gravitated towards using hers most of the time. I'd measure your skirts and suss out what you need and then buy a shorter one, since you can always use it for layering as well.

If you live in a country where you can get decent short pettis in costume stores that might be worth trying too, but when I looked I only found horrible tulle ones that were scratchy enough to potentially snag stuff I wore them with, so I gave in and bought a custom one.

>> No.9572346

>>9570079
Tie them behind ears and then at the back of your head. I like to secure mine with criss-crossed bobby pins as well, you can hide them under the bow ribbons.

I've managed to get away with dancing the night away at goth clubs using this method without a single slip, although sadly it didn't make me a better dancer.

>> No.9572382

>>9572346
If you don't like the look of them just tied under your chin you can use the long excess straps to criss-cross in the back then tie around your neck like a choker, although it's more of a modern lolita thing. I can't find it now but I've seen Misako do this in videos. For my Bodyline headdresses I tend to cut the stupidly long ribbons shorter and use a lighter to stop them fraying, but with more expensive brands I don't want to damage the resale of by cutting I do the choker thing.

>> No.9572474

Can anyone recommend some utks in "generation"? I have a meta op where all the lace is beige.

>> No.9572525

>>9571642
I actually still use my ancient KKJJ one layered with a weaker, non-branded costume one. Works pretty well for old meta stuff, but their hems were pretty big compared so some other brands.

I have an A-line Cornet skirt and an old VM skirt that I had to make a special petticoat for, because they're so narrow through the hip that my existing petticoats made them both look strained.

>> No.9572588

>>9571642
I have a skirt from sex pot revenge that doubles as a petti. I love it because it has a fitted waistband rather than elastic and it's the perfect low poof a line. For velvet, I swear by melikestea hard tulle pettis - I have two that I got in 2015 and they haven't deflated at all.

>> No.9572646

>>9570177
>click clack clips
this is adorable and i am only calling them this from now on. i knew them as barrettes.

>> No.9572650

>>9572646
that's what we call them in Dutch

>> No.9572658

>>9572474
The color you're thinking of is Kinari/生成り. Pretty much everyone has carried that shade, and they all match pretty well as far as I know (I have kinari baby OTKs that match the lace on a meta dress I own) I think CC had a pair of rashel Meta ones in stock recently, and you can buy brand ones new. Offbramd I'm not sure about, maybe other anons can help.

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S-size BPN strappy platforms are up on auctions right now for 13,000 yen for anyone that wants them:
https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/f195945092

>>9572658
I don't think they're all the same shade, AP's generation is a lot beigier than BtSSB's from what I've seen.

>> No.9572768

>>9572658
I think I'll have to wait for a sale, the meta socks are 3,300 plus 2,800 shipping, for a dumb pair of socks. If anyone has a better solution I'm all ears. I was thinking of tea aging a bodyline pair but the lace is synthetic.

>> No.9572774

>>9572658
>>9572474

Just stick to looking for 生成り in burando. Even if one is beigier than another it's usually in the same undertones, so not really noticeable unless you're planning on wearing the sleeves of one blouse with another brand's blouse, or wearing two different brand's socks on each leg.


Taobao and offbrand are a bad idea. My closet self-split because almost all of the taobao stuff I bought that are marked as "milk white", "rice white", "not white", even "generation" turned out to be a very light lemony yellow that clashes with kinari. Offbrand is even worse, I've seen things that photograph as ivory, described as beige and irl is a colour that looks closer to camel.

>> No.9572806

>>9572768
There are socks on eBay with cotton lace that are redeemable after starching (I keep meaning to do a tutorial on it), and I've successfully tea dyed lace tights before. I doubt the socks will go on sale, they usually sell out in all the non-weird colours well before that. Last couple of times I stocked up on socks I got a whole bunch of different colours from AP/BtSSB so I could bundle them with another order and save on shipping.

>> No.9575585

>>9572806
Which socks? Is it the ones with the satin ribbon laced through the top?

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How well do the screen printed pieces hold up? I just got a piece from 2007 and I'm hoping it's going to be okay, since I know that the screen printing on t-shirts fades and cracks pretty badly.

>> No.9575728

>>9575706
depends on how worn the piece is. cracking and fading happens a lot more often when a piece is washed, and taking that dresses are often too delicate to wash (often), there's a big chance the print is still okay.

do you happen to know the condition stated in the listing?

>> No.9575753

>>9575585
Yeah, you just remove the ribbon (replacing it with something nicer is optional) and starch and iron it and they're nearly identical to BtSSB's socks (the lace and overall design is incredibly similar, but by look and feel I'm guessing the socks themselves have a lot more polyester in the mix than BtSSB's). They're nearly all kind of thigh-high though, which is fine if you're going for that look (good with black stuff) or wearing something short but a pain in the ass otherwise. The white ones are also *super* white and need a light tea dying to look their best even if you don't want them beige - I haven't tried tea-dying them yet as I suspect the pure cotton lace and poly(cotton) socks may take up dye at different rates and look weird.

I posted some comparison pics to the Lolita General a while back, but that was before I realised how much of a difference starching them makes:
https://archive.rebeccablacktech.com/cgl/thread/9423651/#9424140

>> No.9575757

>>9575728
The condition and photos looked pretty good. What is the best way to clean these pieces then? Hand washing? Dry cleaning?

>> No.9575779

>>9575757
when you receive it, take a look at the tag first, that should tell you most of it. I think people normally recomend dry-cleaning, but some chemicals may clash with the print, so it's best to ask the dry-cleaner first.

I personally prefer to steam all of my pieces in the bathroom when needed

>> No.9575784

>>9575753
different anon here. if I have the right socks in mind, I do not recommend these for short x bigger thighs. I have them, and they are uncomfortably tight.

>> No.9575835

>>9575784
I'm fairly slim so I didn't have an issue, I'd say they're pretty average as lolita socks go. BtSSB's are tighter (BtSSB/AatP socks in general seem to run really small, I have a few print socks from them that are super tight, smaller than IW print socks I've had). Maxicimam I would have expected to be plus-sized friendly since they have a lot of plus-sized clothes, but I got some of their lace-topped recently and they're not that stretchy IMO, they fit me fine but I can't see them stretching to fit a bigger girl easily. Of all the brands I've owned I'd say AP's lace-topped socks are largest, they go up high and stretch a lot.

>> No.9575838

>>9575753
Thanks for posting that! Yeah, I bought the white pair but wasn't sure if they could be successfully tea dyed. I only need them slightly off-white. They were only $3.50 on aliexpress so I might try it and share results.

>> No.9575841

>>9575779
Dumb question but is steaming a good alternative for cleaning lolita pieces? I have some dresses with glitter and I've been wondering about different cleaning techniques

>> No.9575876

>>9575841
I have a standing steamer and I love it, I've wanted one for a couple of years and never took the plunge because they're pricey (I bought a cleaning steamer once that was supposed to have a garment steaming attachment but it was shit and never worked properly and eventually broke, would not recommend combination devices of that type). I took the plunge and got a steamer to deal with delicate stuff when I moved to a new place that didn't have a bath I could hand-wash in, and now I have one I fucking love it. I steamed nearly 100 lolita items with it after I moved and it works well on most things, and even melted the wrinkles away from some items that ironing didn't work well on (there were still about five or six wrikle-prone cotton items neither an iron or steamer work well on, but it was magic at getting wrinkles out of creased velvet wrinkle-prone polyesters that high-temperature ironing might melt).

I used to work in a shop that sold second-hand clothes and this one seems pretty similar quality to the one I used then, only with a smaller tank and shorter vertical bar.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Aicok-Powerful-Standing-Vertical-andRetractable/dp/B06XCSZ5GN/

It's not a substitute for cleaning though, although it will freshen things up and sterilise. Steaming and leaving to air out (I sometimes do this twice for stubborn smells on stuff I've bought) works pretty well but it won't get rid of all odours and you will still need to wash stuff after repeated wears. Anything you sweat on will need to be washed eventually so you have to be meticulous about avoiding direct skin contact with delicate pieces.

>> No.9575882

>>9575876
Adding to my first post, I'd also recommend getting a rail if you plan on steaming more than one or two items at a time (or if you have any longer-length pieces, since that steamer's hanging attachment is pretty short and won't fit long dresses). Stuff gets damp after steaming and you need to leave it out for a while to dry off. I've had this cheap IKEA one for two years and it's held up fine:
http://www.ikea.com/gb/en/products/small-storage-organisers/racks-stands/mulig-clothes-rack-white-art-60179434/

Another protip for if stuff isn't drying well and you don't have the patience to wait / if you've had to steam something last-minute before a meet: use a hairdryer on it to help it dry faster. Works for me.

Don't be tempted to steam stuff hanging on the back of a door or off a tall chest of drawers if you don't have a rail either. Steam can strip paint, wallpaper and varnish, which will fuck up the furniture even if you're lucky enough not to have it colour transfer onto your clothes.

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Hey I know someone asked for a quick review om the F+F bloomers I meantioned ordering last thread and they just arrived today!
The black pair has the same lace as the stock photos but the white are different. Im kind of bummed because the main reason I bought them was because of the lace used in the stock photos to go with some old school items that are super short on me. The black look fine worn but the white ones are a bit longer and kind of just look like they are hanging there like saggy shorts? Im not really sure what to do except pull the legs high enough sp the leg band is tight around my thigh but then I dont really get much of that peeking bloomer vibe

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>>9576029
Maybe the leg hole in the white pair is too wide so it doesnt give the fit and flair effect? Or maybe its the lace that lays limp. I have them tied as tight as they go. They are only about an inch longer then my black pair but as you can see the white hangs down way past my knees.

Sorry for the dirty mirror my dogs always try to check out "that other dog" in the mirror. Maybe ill try to take better photos when my boyfriend is home later to help.

>> No.9576104

>>9560158
I love tacky animal-ear cutsew hoodies; they're so sweet and casual!

>> No.9576138
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I recently purchased this JSK, and am hoping to do an old-school themed coord.

I'd love to make an apron for the JSK, but I'm undecided if I should go for a half apron or a full apron. And if so, am I better off going for a plain trim, or using a similar lace to the piece?

>> No.9576149

>>9576138

Old-school is a substyle not a theme

>> No.9576157

>>9576149
I'm guessing what anon meant is that she wanted to coordinate the dress in an oldschool-inspired way even though it's not actually an oldschool dress and therefore wouldn't be a true oldschool coord.

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https://www.shopgoodwill.com/auctions/Lolita-Red--Black-Lacy-Gothic-Themed-Dresses-41795871.html

>> No.9576321

>>9576029
I got lucky and had the same lace on both my bloomers from them. I wish they were more consistent with the lace type. I've ordered blouses from them and got a completely different lace type and it completely threw off my coord.

>> No.9576336

>>9576208
I'm more interested in the dress on the right, is that IW? I'd love something like that to wear to class.

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>>9576149
Oldschool is a kind of aesthetic and styling and it can be sweet, classic, gothic, etc. It's not a substyle.

>> No.9576349

>>9576208
I feel sadder the more these pop up.

>> No.9576614

>>9576208
aaaaand ofcourse, no international shipping...

>> No.9576671

>>9576336
Yup

>> No.9576690

>>9576349
Her wardrobe must have been huge because they've been steadily releasing dresses for weeks now.

>> No.9576695

>>9576690
Did anyone find out the story behind them? If it was indeed a lolita that passed feel kind of bad for her parents/partner for not realizing they had a small fortune in clothing on their hands, I'm sure that could have helped with her final expenses. Of course they could be completely aware and just want to move on, which is fine.

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Thanks anon who posted about the bodyline headdresses being in stock! These are good iud I don't habe anything that specifically goes with a coord.

>> No.9576993

>>9576695
nobody knows anything, anon. unless someone called Goodwill or something, but I doubt they know/will tell. we just have to hope she isn't dead

>> No.9577038

>>9576978
I love the rose lace they used!

>> No.9577063

>>9576208
I wish they shipped internationally because there are some really cute pieces.

>> No.9577073

>>9576695
Since the auction is from Eugene, Oregon maybe someone from the Oregan com knows something? Not sure if Goodwill moves their items around before auctioning though.

I think it's pretty likely that a lolita passed away, though I hope not. The wardrobe seems to be very large and nice so I can't imagine a lolita just giving everything away. Some of the dresses are nwt too.

>> No.9577205

>>9577038
They look very nice, even if they're pretty recognizable as bodyline. The rose lace is a little brighter and shinier than the rest of the lace. When they're worn it's no big deal, but they're a little short.

>> No.9577481

does anybody have any old makeup/hair tutorials from glb? I need makeup & hair inspo.

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>>9577481
prepare for a major dump, anon

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>> No.9577718

>>9577667
I really have always loved this one, it's so cute.

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>>9577721
end of dump

>> No.9577923

>>9577481
I think anon's dump has covered most of it but I'm adding that if you do a search on the archives for Avant Gauche someone linked to their page of compiled beauty tutorials a while back.

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>>9576978
>mfw finally bit the shipping bullet and bought some
goddamn look really cute, can't wait till they arrive!

>> No.9578447

>>9578025
I think I'll get one too if Yan has a good birthday sale this September.

>> No.9580542

>>9577073

Oregon lolita here. Nothing has happened to anyone in our comm as far as we have heard. So, my best guess is it was either someone who never joined the comm that passed away or an ultra rich Chinese girl in our comm that lives in Eugene got bored of part of her wardrobe (which wouldn't be surprising since she seems to regularly make purchases that total thousands of dollars at a time and all her wardrobe pics show her spare lolita room being overcrowded).

>> No.9580545

>>9580542
The rich girl in Eugene is the one who made a huge fuss about Baby's Japanese staff being racist a while ago. Maybe she decided to clear out her Baby wardrobe?

>> No.9580577

>>9580545
There was more than just Baby there. A lot of AP and some otome brands as well.

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9580670

Shout out to this super cheap oldschool lolita starter set up for grabs on Fril.
https://item.fril.jp/bcdf7e713a99dd01459152c2117c5f15

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I don't usually post links but I know most people here don't check auctions for ETC so I thought I might as well:
https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/w91470812

I'm getting a very 90s vibe from this dress (although it might just be the blue velour making me think that) and I think it'd be perfect for first-issues-of-FRUiTS-era styling. And it has pockets! It'd make a really cute everyday dress if you were the kind of person that wears light/bright colours for everyday, which I'm not. I'd be so excited if someone got it and did it justice.

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http://www.candy-one.com/caramel/item/L4587/

It's 3600 yen. Don't kill each other.

>> No.9581046

>>9580670
>>9580842
Why must I be on a buy ban?

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>>9580677
I kind of get what you mean, it somehow reminds me of pic related even though the style of the dress itself is totally different.

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Did anyone get to buy this rerelease recently? Maybe there will be hope for that embroidered jsk from kamikaze girls.

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>>9577654
kawaii mike wazowski

>> No.9582039

>>9580842
Thanks anon. I hope my ss was able to grab it, but she said that site sometimes lets you but things that are already sold.

>> No.9582077

>>9582039
I hate to be this person, but how long ago did your SS try to get it? Apparently mine bought it for me over an hour ago but it still shows as available on the site, so maybe you got it, maybe I did, maybe neither of us did...

>> No.9582082

>>9582077
8pm central time. Either way, someone will enjoy it. I'll post here if I see one again, I'm on the lookout for sax or pink.

>> No.9582612

>>9580677
Someone's got a fairly high max bid on this but IDK who this is, I tried to sniper bid for it and either the seler deleted my bid or the seller's reserve was higher than my bid, and then when I tried regular bidding someone else's max beat me.

>> No.9582668

>>9582082
I have a pink one I've been meaning to sell anon, it's quite wrinkled because I haven't had a chance to steam it but if you like I could list it on lacemarket?

>> No.9582688

>>9582668
Yes please! How much though?

>> No.9582799

>>9582668
seconding, please!

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Does anyone have a higher quality picture of this scan, or know where to find one?

>> No.9582914

>>9582039
>>9582077
Well I hope one of you was able to grab it! I'm on a temp no-buy and it was too good a deal to not share here.

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>>9582898
Found it on lolita history, it's from Fruits 35.

>> No.9582975

>>9582920
Yoo thank you so much anon!!

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>>9560449
There's an L-sized black enamel pair on Maidenclothing right now, sadly not my size:
http://www.maidenclothing.net/script/detail.php?id=154062448001

>> No.9583713

>>9582612
Okay, whoever that was (maybe the seller trying to ensure a high price) put some crazy value on it, the dress isn't anything too special but bidding's gone up over 10k yen. I give up, hope it wasn't one of you guys.

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>> No.9585512

>>9582688
>>9582799
https://egl.circlly.com/auctions/btssb-heart-apron-80f178e0-acf2-4b1c-ad3c-0ae02ab2e8d6

>> No.9585554

>>9585512
for some reason there is no option to bid or buy on the page. Is that just me?

>> No.9585557

>>9585554
She forgot to add the price in kek

>> No.9585558

>>9585557
Why does LM even let you do that? The site should stop you from being able to put up a listing without a price.

>> No.9585559

>>9585554
>>9585557
I'm an idiot and thought the update auction button was the same as publish

>> No.9585567

>>9585512
I'm kind of tempted but I feel bad because I only want it for one coord whereas it's a lot of other lolitas' dream item lol. Also it's a pretty high starting bid but I'm sure anons will bite.

>> No.9585577

>>9585559
fuck, i mention it AND miss the actual sale fml. Welp enjoy it other anon..

>> No.9585600

>>9585577
Holy shit that was fast, surprised people are willing to pay that much.

>> No.9585621

>>9585600
Same. Glad you sold it though. With international shipping, it was out of my budget this week anyway, so I guess it's good the other anon got it.

>> No.9585623

>>9585621
>Glad you sold it though.
I'm not the seller but I'm glad for her too.

>> No.9585631

>>9585600
The down side of old school getting popular again... I remember seeing these just sitting in Closet child and Wunderwelt just two years ago. So much regret. I don't think I could swing over $100 for just an apron though..

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VISIBLE OP going cheap on Closet Child for those that like that sort of tacky stuff:
http://www.closetchildonlineshop.com/product/140458

>> No.9585784

>>9584998
I really like this dress, lol. What brand is it?

>> No.9586108

>>9585558
It's so people can just message you to make offers in money or trades

>> No.9586112

>>9585784
>lol
Not quite sure but I'm guessing it's one of the smaller brands like Cornet.

>> No.9586115

>>9585784
It's MAM, https://lolibrary.org/items/max-gobelin-op-2001

>> No.9586273

>>9586112
>>9586115
Thanks!

>> No.9586287

>>9586273
There is also a very similar solid version of it. https://lolibrary.org/items/max-babydoll-op I got it off Mercari and it's a really good OP. Sturdy fabric, comfortable, really nicely made. If you see this it's def worth buying.

>> No.9586331

some interesting finds:

AP or catherine cottage (wasn't clear which one) velour/velvet OP bl x wh: https://item.mercari.com/jp/m23484046882/

maxicimam blouse with choker (and probably detachable collar, but not sure) bl x wh: https://item.mercari.com/jp/m72018698593/

cheap white baby cutsew (short sleeve, minor stains): https://item.mercari.com/jp/m59981648446/

meta grandma couch set with bonnet: https://item.mercari.com/jp/m75554722924/

>> No.9586340

>>9586331
cornet OP with extras in bl x wh: https://item.mercari.com/jp/m94376980811/

AATP mini skirt in bl x wh: https://item.mercari.com/jp/m51243873513/

baby stripe OP with headbow: https://item.mercari.com/jp/m84648661394/

>> No.9586348

>>9586331
>AP or catherine cottage (wasn't clear which one)
The first line of the listing is "キャサリンコテージのワンピースです" which literally translates to "Catherine Cottage's OP", anon. Even using Google translate gives you enough of a workable translation to understand that. (Google translates it as "It is one piece of Katherine cottage".)

>> No.9586362
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Some Meta velveteen (comes with a cape as well).
http://www.candy-one.com/caramel/item/L4476/

The OP is the Velveteen Ribbon OP from 2007.
https://lolibrary.org/items/meta-velveteen-ribbon-op

The cape doesn't have it's own lolibrary entry but it's part of this series, also from 2007:
https://lolibrary.org/items/meta-velveteen-embroidery-ribbon-jsk
https://lolibrary.org/items/meta-embroidered-coat-op-velveteen

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>>9586362
Meta's coordinate example.

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>>9586363

>> No.9586370

>>9567300
Hey I was waiting to confirm but I believe this is probably from 2000 or earlier, maybe 2001 at the latest? If I remember right the tag on this on Lacemarket was the jumbled Meta font, and I have 2 Meta pieces with that same font now, one unknown one and one that is their angel headdress (which I just got from the mail today, hence why I was waiting to confirm). According to lolibrary the headdress is from 2000, so I assume this is from a similar time. I'm not sure when they changed their tag over next, but if anyone has a concrete dateable piece from them with a different tag, then we could pinpoint the latest year your dress could be from.

>> No.9586376

>>9586362
https://lolibrary.org/items/meta-velveteen-embroidery-cape

>> No.9586385

>>9586370
I have dresses from 2001 that had switched to the new tag at that point. I believe they used that old tag from the 90's until early 2001. I had a piece that I thought was 2002 that had that tag, but I think it may be newer and was just re-released in 2002 (it was a plain white skirt).

>> No.9586401

>>9586385
That's good to know, so congrats floral anon, your piece is pretty old.

>> No.9586413

>>9586370
>>9586385
Can you guys give me examples of what you mean about the tags? I have a black and white Meta skirt I couldn't ID and I'm wondering now if it was a very old piece.

>>9586376
Ta anon, missed that somehow.

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>>9586413
This tag is from 1999 and has the alternating letter position. This is the one they stopped using by early 2001. Ever since then they've stayed pretty much the same.

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>>9586417
Ah, not the same tag I don't think. I left the skirt at my family home by accident so I can't check properly, but the stock photos have a Crown Label tag so it's definitely not that old a piece.

>> No.9586443

>>9586422
I have a CL piece from 2002 though, it can be old enough. Not 1999 old, but still fairly early.

>> No.9586648

>>9586331
How do you find old school pieces on fril and mecari? Just slowly sift through various brand sections/tags?

>> No.9586683

>>9586648
Yup, it's the only way.

>> No.9586687

>>9586648
Also, when I see something that looks particularly old and the seller's said something in the description about how they're selling because they don't wear lolita any more/leaving lolita, I always make sure to check out their other listings.

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9586726

can owners of this beauty tell me what kind of lining does it have?
it is pretty cold in my country so i don't want to buy just a long light jacket. https://lolibrary.org/items/btssb-claudia-coat

>> No.9586728

I highly recommend browsing Meta's 2003/2004 english website. They are so passionate, creative and adorable about everything, it makes my salty heart melt.

>> No.9586811

>>9586648
Also looking up by brand, then item type, and sorting by price helps sometimes.

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My AatP Jewel Print Apron JSK (2007) arrived in the mail today so I took some pics of it. Everything's straight out of the box and I was surprised how sturdy the material is. The dress has two buttons on it to hold the apron up that I didn't realize. Not a fan of the apron though so I might end up selling it to I guess anyone who's into branded aprons.

>> No.9587521
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>>9587520
I thought the print looked busy in the stock photos but it's actually really gorgeous. I spent a solid five minutes just looking at the print details.

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>>9587521
The AP letters on the crossed swords are actually gold glittered. Pretty neat detail but I couldn't photograph it properly.

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>>9587523
And obligatory tag close up. Nearly found it because it was halfway down the length of the dress under the end of the zipper track.

>> No.9587537

>>9587520
If you're ever going to sell the JSK it'll be worth a lot less without the matching apron, I don't think it's worth splitting the set.

>> No.9587598

>>9587537
Ah, true. Maybe I'll just put it in storage somewhere out of the way.

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Found Japanese Twitter posts about that oldschool lolita tea party a while back:
https://twitter.com/tsuyo524/status/851096444937191424

>> No.9587906

>>9587879
Lovely! I wish there were more photos.

>> No.9593892

Hey anon that was interested in the Meta Velveteen Tiered Shirring JSK. I just got it and the bodice is too short for my bust. Hit me up if you wanna buy it

>> No.9593894

>>9560170
Holy shit I need that apron. Does anyone know what it is called?

>> No.9593911

>>9567850
cursed image

>> No.9593921

>>9593892
I think that's me - I've emailed you but I might be barking up the wrong tree, since a lot of these old dresses have similar names.

>> No.9593999

>>9577655
Whoa, Misako looks so different!

>>9577654
>>9577653
Hmmm I never knew they used gems on their face in the oldschool days!

>> No.9594018

>>9587520

I love this print. I have this in two different skirts and I'm eyeballing the diagonal cut of the JSK reeeaally hard.

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Found some very old Baby on pinterest! (I think it's Isobe's wife?)

>> No.9594027

>>9586370
>>9586385
Hello and thank you both, I just realized I hadn't stated the brand was Meta, nor did I share the tag. I will take a picture when I am home. Thank you for responding!

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http://www.ne.jp/asahi/doll/doll/exreyou/koten200411repo.htm

>> No.9594037

>tfw some old school pinterest board has over 7000 images
>tfw it's probably impossible to view it all

>> No.9594052

>>9594019
I'll forever curse myself for not having the money when that bag popped up on LM.

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>>9594019
I have a higher-res scan of this if that helps.

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I just love old brand adds so much.
Also is it only me or does ever year after circa 2007-2008 feels almost unreal to you?

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>>9594029
Thanks for sharing anon, this is really cool.

>> No.9594770

>>9594507
You know, for some reason i always think Wiz me over the Rainbow was like 2007/2008 release and recently i picked it up, but it doesnt look very good on me, so when i was looking up info to list it for sale I saw that it was actually 2013! I had no idea it was so recent! It just has that old school/simple charm to it.

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I've been thinking about either altering this to be smaller (professionally) or selling this jsk.
Not sure what it's worth though!

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