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Lifestyle thread?

What do you consider the requirements or tenants of 'lifestyle" lolita? Are there any particular hobbies or activities that you think lend themselves to lifestyle? Are you a lifestyle lolita, or have you ever thought about trying it out?

>> No.9488537


>> No.9488545

People who are lolita (have lolita as their main clothing style and don't wear something else unless necessary)

>> No.9488558

Do people even really practice lifestyle lolita anymore on any broader scale? Maybe it's because the community is fractured since EGL died but I hardly see people who claim to be lifestyle now. Then again, I also rarely see people who wear lolita daily like people used to, versus coordinates for special occasions

In EGL's heyday, lifestyle was typically defined as someone who

-Wore lolita regularly (every day if possible, with exceptions for situations where they couldn't wear it)
-Subscribed to the idea of Lolitas being polite, reserved, feminine, as promoted in some of the essays in GLB
-Had hobbies that were considered refined/feminine/polite, like embroidery, reading classic literature, etc

>> No.9488564

People who wear lolita often don't feel like posting their coords unless they want to be efamous or went to an event. Think about it, anyone who posts every week becomes known in the community whether it's good or bad. Some of those GLB articles were obviously jokes. The last thing you listed are normal things to like for any lolita.

>> No.9488572

>Some of those GLB articles were obviously jokes. The last thing you listed are normal things to like for any lolita.

That's nice. That doesn't change what people considered lifestyle lolita back in the day.

>> No.9488574

I wear lolita daily but I usually don't bother taking pics, not to mention post them online. Quite a few gulls say they'd love to see more daily lolitas and wearable coords but in actuality coords like that don't get any attention when posted so it feels a bit pointless. Not that I mind, I wear my frills for myself, but that could be one reason why you don't see it often.

>> No.9488595

now I'm reminded of that "Quaintrelle" movement Vivcore tried to start but abandoned after it didn't garner a lot of attention. A similar concept to lifestyle lolita, except it focused on historical fashions and historical lifestyle aspects. There are some people who do attempt a historical lifestyle to varying degrees, although offhand I can only think of quirky/insane people who try to make it their full lifestyle like the "Victorian era" couple.

>> No.9488597

Yeah, you'd also have to take the time for pictures (and edit them to please gulls)

>> No.9488612

I think the community shift from livejournal to tumblr/instagram/social media has made it harder for people just to post daily lolita outfits. With livejournal we specifically had daily_lolita for... daily lolita outfits, so people who posted and lurked and commented were in it for daily outfits, but on social media people only really care about the outfits and photos that jump out, so it feels pointless to post them most of the time.

>> No.9489992

It's not as relevant, no, and I think it's a result of the evolution of the fashion since EGL dwindled and Tumblr and other personal social media pages became the norm versus a forum/community environment.

>> No.9490070

I think tolerance for things like strong enthusiasm, eagerness and effort in talking about lolita lifestyle has decreased a lot, so that unless it's perfectly aesthetic the whole idea comes across as cringeworthy. The community used to overlook it pretty readily but I think now, if the 'seams are showing' or someone has too much to say about themself and their efforts, it's really looked down upon. Maybe that's just my personal perception of how my own view point changed since early on but I don't think I'm alone with that. With the community so decentralized, blogging etc seems a lot more public and not as intimate and 'secret club' like, so the standards for what seems embarrassing has also changed

>> No.9490106

I agree.

I can't imagine something like this being received well anymore:


>> No.9493823

I think because there used to be a lot more people who got until Lolita because of the feminine and historical inspired aesthetic, those people were already into artsy stuff and manners. They are still here but now there are also a ton of weebs who just like Japanese clothes and it's just clothes and if it's more to you you're just trying to be better than them.

>> No.9493832

Does anyone have lolita-esque recipes for tea?

>> No.9493833

step 1 take lef
step 2 lef in cup
step 3 hot water lef
step 4 wait
step 5 loli tea

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There's a bunch of places selling these kinds of blooming flower tea, which always struck me as being very lolita-like. They actually do take a few minutes to properly bloom and open out fully, and they look best in a glass cup, the fussiness is what makes it seem more lolita-lifestyler to me.

The only thing problem is finding a pretty one with a nice scent. A local cafe has this one beautiful blooming tea with a beautiful scent, but they won't tell me what brand it is. Thus, alas, I continue on my quest for a blooming tea blend that appeals to both my eyes and nose.

>> No.9494066

Thank you. I actually mean food but that looks pretty.

>> No.9494312


Wouldn't this be just about every finger food you like? I guess you could serve it on a pretty plate if it makes you feel more lady-like

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Pic related is one of my favourite finger foods but I won't serve that at a lolita event

>> No.9494329

You lost? This isn't the gyaru thread.

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>tons of weebs

I went to anime club two or three years ago in college and I mentioned in passing that I dressed in lolita sometimes. Later the two weebiest girls decided that they were lolita and it turned me off it almost completely.

>tfw I will never forget the stupid ass :3 smiles on their headbow-wearing faces

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Some are more for decoration than others and most are mainly for ideas instead of actual recipes, but I hope it helps.

>> No.9494393

KEK'ed hard here. Thanks for that.

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To put in things like ice tea for picnic meets.

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>> No.9494400

This is great, thank you

>> No.9494405

Lolitas are fucking insufferable, holy shit.

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Just meringue and cream

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Strawberry Chicken Salad

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If you want to serve something closer to a meal soups can still be very delicate looking.

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I'm done spamming now. Reverse image search should take you to all the recipes.

>> No.9494564

kek ok, now go back to your shitty cosplays and trying to be e-famous

>> No.9495536

To me a lifestyle Lolita is someone whose primary wardrobe is their Lolita. The aesthetic does extend outward in some capacity in their life. I define that as their living space is inspired by the aesthetic of their wardrobe; they have a frilly bedroom. But it is also inclusive of interests that would be open opportunities to enjoy Lolita. Maybe they like ballet or they collect feminine BJD. It doesn't have to include tea, as some just are not interested in the nuances of tea as a hobby. It may mean an appreciation for fine pastries or other sweets.

Personally, I do appreciate seeing some balance in a lifestyler. Not to edgelord status, but just enough so it isn't too extreme. Psychologists have said for a while that people who don't curse tend to be less trust worthy, and my experience agrees. So, I'm not saying a Lolita should never curse, just selectively and within the context of both environment and company. By that I mean they keep their "French" to a minimum when at a formal tea party or around new people, but effectively use it in the company of their friends.

>> No.9495577

I stopped cursing because it doesn't work anymore if you do it normally. If you only let out a curseword when something really, really pissed you off, it works as a stress reliever.

>> No.9495616

The concept of "being into manners" baffles me. Being polite or having manners is not a hobby of mine, and nothing that I actively want to achieve. I just wasn't raised in a barn and don't want to be an obnoxious jerk when I'm around people, so I follow basic rules for social interaction and have table manners that won't embarrass me. Is that lifestyle-y enough already?

>> No.9495648


I'm just not a fan of forcing yourself to swear or not swear. You shouldn't have to feel pressured to start using swear words just to fit in with your "friends". Surely you can find some group some where that doesn't mind if you're not putting a swear word into every fifth sentence or whatever the stats tell you.

Adding to >>9495577, it also works on outsiders. If you normally don't swear, and have a reputation for not swearing, people pay ten times the attention when you do swear. I've gotten way more drastic reactions with a simple "oh shit" than girls who throw out entire vocabularies of swear words, because I'm the polite girl who doesn't swear, so when I do, everyone notices, and everyone immediately thinks serious shit has hit.

>> No.9495661

That's just common courtesy, it's not necessarily lifestyle-y but always good to have. You don't have to actually implement old fashioned etiquette into your own life to be a lifestyle lolita by the way; I have an interest in etiquette as a social custom, I like reading about it but like you I mostly stick to common courtesy and don't necessarily follow Victorian etiquette in my life.

>> No.9495692

I meant people who are into researching the manners of jane austen characters and Marie Antoinette and stuff

>> No.9495711

I wouldn't describe myself as "being into manners", but I do express that I have a hobby for studying etiquette. What I mean is that I collect books on the subject and do research on etiquette of previous centuries and other countries.

>> No.9495832

Aah, I see! I get being interested in outdated or foreign etiquette, it's interesting and often quite funny to read what people did/couldn't do. Thanks for explaining!

I guess I mistook the whole "learning about manners" thing as a bunch of middle class kids forcefully trying to behave like some duchess and being terribly cringy in the process.

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I would love to wear lolita more often, but i spend most of my time cloistered in my dorm room. Idk wearing lolita indoors in a 10 meters square space isn't very stimulating to look forward to.

I drink tea and infusions all the time, but i don't even have a teacup and drink tea like a "barbarian", in glasses, using microwave to heat the water.

>tfw i would like to have more friends only to wear lolita while hanging out

>> No.9495886

>using microwave to heat the water
I physically cringed. I feel for you, anon. Isn't there anything you can do? Get yourself an actual kettle and find some things to do that'll make wearing the fashion indoors enjoyable.
Have you read Kamikaze Girls? Novala's writing isn't for everyone but something about reading Momoko's adoration for Baby makes me feel desperate to dress up, maybe it'll make it fun for you too.

>> No.9495898

I wear lolita every day barring social standards that might need to be met that day or if im literally only leaving the house to get food

I cant be bothered to take a picture every single day and even with somewhat over 30 dresses its going to be a lot of repeated coords which will get boring for everyone.

I just take pictures when its a new coord or im actually doing something special. Other than that I do crochet and love to read but thats about as feminine as I get. I dont like tea or coffee and I dont think lolitas have to be polite or reserved although I tend to be more out of social anxiety than the thought of "Im a lolita"

I think the only thing now that makes you a lifestyle lolita is simply if you treat the fashion as your normal wear.

>> No.9496414

I love wearing Lolita by myself in my room, switching between accessories whenever I want, admiring the details of my skirt..

>> No.9496436

I think the joke goes that people who haven't gotten into lolita fashion yet are the ones who sit around and dream about "lolita lifestyle" stuff but people who actually wear it are more concerned with coords, friends, meetups and shopping.

>> No.9496444

I was actually pretty active in my online comm before I had a complete wardrobe, but after going to two meets I stopped giving a fuck about Lolita friends and meets

>> No.9496445

Lolita-at-heart types did contribute to the stigma around the lifestyle concept (not that people supported it fully before but you get what I mean), but the lifestyle and fashion aren't mutually exclusive. Meeting up with your friends to casually browse the GLBs, watch Kamikaze Girls and do other "lifestyle" things is ten times more fun when you actually wear the fashion.

>> No.9496477

I think wearing the clothes matters most. If you don't do that, it's never a lolita lifestyle really. But if you wear the clothes already then lifestyle is mostly just 'things you do in lolita?'
I wear lolita fashion at least a couple of times a week, often more but I've always thought this lifestyle ideal is a bit strange. I'm just as girly or feminine when I wear non-lolita clothes. I don't do different things or act differently when wearing the fashion. I dress up a bit more for meets, that's about it.

>> No.9496498

I don't think there's an ideal for lifestyle lolitas other than wearing the fashion daily. The rest is what you make of it, every "lifestyle" is different, but I think at its core it's made up of things that make you "feel" more lolita or give you inspiration relating to your personal lolita "bubble".
Changing your personality or "acting more lolita" (whatever that means) when you're dressed up is more like putting up a false persona and treating the clothes like a costume than participating in the lifestyle.

>> No.9496843

Correct me if I'm wrong but I think in Japan it's less unusual to have a fake persona for different clothing styles. They wouldn't see it as fake, but as showing a different side of yourself. I remember reading about a lolita who acted more gallant and put ladies first when she wore ouji.

>> No.9496858

Well i'm going to leave my room in one week. Anyway! Thanks for the motivation, i'm wearing my AP holy theater today, and i'm going to read at the park.
That's true, looking to the little celestial lambs and kittens on the print is bliss

>> No.9497159

kys. Nothing in this thread is remotely cringy. These tutorials are really cute for meet ups, ones you'll clearly never be apart of.

>> No.9497182

But see, that's just it, I'm not sure what you were doing to be 'active' but unless you are wearing the fashion, it's just not lolita. That's the most basic part. You can have tea parties, braid elaborate hairstyles and have all manner of elegant and feminine hobbies but the basis of lolita fashion is always actually wearing the clothes. That is the real beginning.

This is why I don't usually like 4c, there are a bunch of you sounding off here that don't even wear the fashion yet but somehow think your opinion counts already within the fashion. It doesn't. It's fine to wear a sundress, shawl and a hat and have elegant manners at the local garden tea party, admirable even. But that's not lolita or lolita lifestyle. I'm not hating on those who aren't there yet but until you start wearing the fashion yourself, there is only so much you can really do to be part, and the rest is some sort of play pretend that is only happening in your own imagination. Lolita is wonderful but just imagining things eliminates all the real frustration of it too, like when your accessories did not arrive in time, your shoes pinch, your wig gives a headache and your lace crumples up.

I used to post in the lifestyle threads until I figured out that most of you here don't even wear the fashion yet. And yes, it's disappointing because I wear lolita often and I do have what my friends consider a lolita lifestyle. So I still look in occasionally.


>> No.9497187


Most lolitas-at-heart idealize what it means to be a lolita when the reality is quite different. It's a shame because they kind of cheat themselves out of the actual beginner experience when they jump in to discussions with no basis, with no clothes to begin themselves. The beginning while waiting for a new dress and putting together the coord is something that you just can't experience without buying the pieces and it's a big part of the journey for some of us, we do it over and over with each new main piece.

I'd love to be part of an online lifestyle lolita group but only with others that are actively in the fashion already. If there was a forum, we could have a gateway thread for those not active yet but who were buying their first coord soon. When they made their first complete coord, they could debut their photo and we could welcome them into in the main forum and grant full access.

I think the lifestylers are the ones who will keep the fashion going in the end when others give it up for something new or grow out of it. We will still be hosting the tea parties and getting a new bonnet and seeking out lolita shoes in pastel colors.


>> No.9497251

Thank you for this, anon. I do think that lolitas-at-heart have a decent potential to become actual lolitas but at the same time I agree with you completely.

>> No.9497261

>I used to post in the lifestyle threads until I figured out that most of you here don't even wear the fashion yet. And yes, it's disappointing because I wear lolita often and I do have what my friends consider a lolita lifestyle. So I still look in occasionally.

Same I still post encouragement and recipes like above, but there's not much you can discuss.

>I think the lifestylers are the ones who will keep the fashion going in the end when others give it up for something new or grow out of it.

I'm really hoping, idk with the Chinese now though.

>> No.9497284 [DELETED] 

I was active in my comm and went to two meets, so obviously I had coords. Just one blouse, petticoat and two skirts that's why I said not a complete wardrobe. Idk about your comm but only lolita's were allowed to attend.

>> No.9497287

I'm not really familiar with what Chinese lolitas are doing, so I was only thinking of the western lolita scene since we already do things very differently than Japanese lolitas who don't really do comms and regular meets and such outside of brand events. It's already a very different experience between these two.

There used to be a certain Gossip girl here who kept us more up to date on Chinese news, I miss her!

But yes, encouragement to actually wear the fashion is about all I can offer here since everything else in a 'lolita lifestyle' is based on that first of all. There's no getting around the fact that you need to wear the fashion to live the lifestyle.

New lolitas can go the casual or soft lolita route and buy used items, that's about the least expensive way to really get into it. I've talked with a few lolita-at-heart types and they built up the fantasy in their mind so much first that actually wearing the clothes and going to events and meets was a let-down for them because they had this pre-conceived idea about it that wasn't based in reality at all. I'm sorry to see that happen.

>> No.9497290

I was active in my comm and went to two meets, so obviously I had coords. Just one blouse, petticoat, shoes and two skirts, that's why I said not a complete wardrobe. Now I have enough to wear lolita whenever I want. I agree a lot of people on cgl don't wear lolita but I don't think there are more or less of them in lifestyle threads.

>> No.9497298

I mean AP pretty much sells to the Chinese now. What they want is what they put out. Even if lolita became mainstream in the west it wouldn't really be enough purchasing power.

>There used to be a certain Gossip girl here who kept us more up to date on Chinese news, I miss her!

She posted on lolcow for a while. That place is way too salty and gossipy for me so I don't know if she still does.

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is shakespeare bait more lifestyle?

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>> No.9497576

Why did you only go to two meets? Do you pursue a lolita lifestyle as a solitary lolita?

Most of the girls in my comm just treat it like a fashion. The ones who come out to meets dress in full lolita but we have more meets that are just fun outings than teas or going to the theater or to classical concerts or more of what I imagine lifestyle lolita activities would be. Online chatter is more about buying and selling dresses than pursuing lolita-like activities.
I'm sure there's a lifestyle group online somewhere, I just haven't bothered to seek it out yet. They probably keep it private to keep out people who aren't actively in the lifestyle.

>> No.9497860

Then why does a post about wearing the fashion as the #1 'lifestyler' requirement nearly always kill the thread?
If there are actual lifestylers here wearing the fashion, that shouldn't shut down the thread.

I prefer coronation chicken salad as my favorite so far but now I want to try this. We will have at least 3 picnic meets in my comm this summer and it's usually too damp to keep merengue treats crisp until autumn. We go for little cakes or pastries as the treats but we all seem to love fruit too.

My comm isn't so much lifestylers but we do love to go to tea and dessert places and have picnics, both of which I think are pretty lifestyle lolita type meets so I'm happy. I wear blouse-less lolita without a petticoat often in the summer with my sandals, being such a rebel. But don't worry, I dress properly for meets or photos.

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The sandals were made by brands for a reason. I think they're really adorable and wish more western lolitas wore them.

All in all though I don't think there's much for life stylers to discuss. I wear the fashion regularly so I don't need help coording or feel the need to snap pics. I'm pretty much a lone lolita and just do my hobbies wearing it. I'd love to go to tea together but my comm is mostly underage with more than a few creeps and very few actually wear lolita.

>> No.9498622

Thanks for posting about blooming tea, my recommendation would be to grab a selection of different kinds. Even though you might feel like saving them for a special occasion, try them out first. Some that I have bought have been kind of boring aesthetically so even though they taste great, probably wouldn't do for a center piece in retrospect.

I would be interested to hear about what people consider lolita recipes. My lolita friend and I love hosting tea parties but have completely different tastes, so we split up the seasons to best represent our palettes.

I will normally take a theme, i.e (I am a fairly country 'bunny's garden'. From there I choose ingredients that I think a bunny would eat from a country garden and make recipes from that.

I think lolitas will interpret themes differently and since everyone has different tastes there isn't really a set lolita-esque spread. For me it is more about excellence that defines lolita dining, and I interpret that by growing many of my own ingredients preemptively for creative menu's at tea parties.

This is beautiful thank you for posting!

Response to OP: while I do consider someone whose primary wardrobe is lolita as lifestyle I don't really feel like it is the only requirement. Personally I think people who adopt the lolita subculture more as lifestyle, even if they can only wear the fashion on the weekends due to work requirements. The fashion is important, it is the main tenant, but many who have adopted lolita as an expression of their identity, feel like actual lolitas to me; in contrast to those who would respond "it is just a fashion" when asked what lolita meant to them. While people would discount the notion of subculture within lolita, if the clothing is the only thing making you lolita than you stop being lolita as soon as you put on a tracksuit to go to the grocery store. Which would in tern suggest there is something more to being a lolita than some frills.

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I don't know about any of you anons, but I love saving lifestyler stuff on pinterest. It makes me feel like a middle aged aunt but there's some cute shit on there. Mini dump incoming,

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Custom sugar cubes

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I feel like the quality of a tea party always increases drastically the more savory options there are. My stomach never feels full on just sweets.

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I've heard boiling water makes your ice cubes clearer. Gotta try some day because this is too cute.

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I've seen this with apple slices but potatoes want to be kawaii too

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Mason jar lid mini pies. Perfect for a country lolita picnic!

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These feel like they belong in the resin thread lmao

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End dump

>> No.9501070

Anyone who has 'adopted lolita as an expression of their identity' without wearing the clothes is the lolita-at-heart or armchair lolita that is the parody that most of us don't like. Otherwise I agree that it takes more than just wearing the fashion sometimes to really be a lifestyler though that's always the first requirement. Having afternoon tea, sewing, crafts and hobbies like studying singing or an instrument. I would say lifestyle lolitas as the ones who would like to have a lolita book club or go to tea rather than the ones up for bar-hopping or karaoke.

I'm a little of both. I wear lolita to meets and then several times a week on my own, sew some of my accessories. I collect dolls, I like the historical aspects of the fashion and prefer a tea party meet to an anime con but I like to go to both.

I agree and I actually prefer the savories unless the sweets are not just pastries or cakes and sweet breads. I like teas that are about half and half. And I don't like meets planned with a tea substituting for a meal if the offerings are more of a snack and mostly sweets.

>> No.9501078

They do look cute enough to be resin lollipop necklaces! Thanks for the dump.

>> No.9501275

>the ones who would like to have a lolita book club or go to tea rather than the ones up for bar-hopping or karaoke.
What about the ones that go to visual kei lives at bars and goth clubs?

>> No.9501562

I think that's lifestyle too. Japanese lolitas did and still do this. I wouldn't wear anything really good or valuable to a live but I'd wear lolita to one. Most con-going lolitas who are dressed up that day go to the music shows in lolita instead of changing but I've seen people change for the raves/dj shows.

But I'm pretty much of the opinion that lolita lifestyle is whatever people do regularly while wearing lolita clothes. Not every lifestyler is classical or likes crafts, sewing or more Victorian lady type stuff. I do a lot of stuff in lolita not because I 'dress up specially in lolita to do it' but because I like to wear the fashion a lot and I've got stuff to do.

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Brand lolita tableware and cups, lovely tea sets, pretty china, kawaii bento and food prep stuff, pretty aprons you actually use. Who here likes and uses fun and loliable kitchenwares? If you wear lolita often, do you cook in it?

>> No.9501641

For me the lolita lifestyle was kind of a huge draw to the fashion in general I've always been kind of clumsy and boisterous naturally so for me flipping through the English glbs and later the Japanese ones I could get my hands on was really cool and gave me an ideal to shoot for, I taught myself how to do a lot of basic cooking and baking, minor sewing and learned about historical clothing styles from different eras. I don't need to wear the clothes everyday ( I litterally can't ) but I can easily see everything in my wardrobe and along with old novels I keep cute kitschy old lady nic knacks around so even if I can't wear the clothes my environment/ my living space feels at least a little lifestyle.

>> No.9501649

Do you have at least some lolita coordinates to wear sometimes, anon? Do you attend meets?

I know that a lot of negative things are said about lolitas-at-heart or armchair lolitas (and admittedly the special snowflake types are annoying with the 'everything can be lolita if you just believe' crap) but I always think to myself that someday they might be able to start wearing the fashion so I always felt like there should be some kind of not-quite-official but still lolita-related place for them to post too.

>> No.9501651

bruh, I own every piece in your photo except one LOL
I am a slut for brand kitchen items, but I only use them for display because they're too pretty to use imo

>> No.9501669

Honestly that's why I feel like I can't make fun of them I was one now I have 13+ pieces and all that but it started by being a cringey " lolita at heart " but Idk if I was too bad I tried very hard not to join the community until I had a real coord. I lurked egl so hard too like obsessively and read f-yeah lolita she was my main inspo and advice I built my original wardrobe around one of her posts.

>> No.9501671

What's everyone's opinion on lolitas wjo work jobs that have a strict dress code?

I spend 40-50 hours a week in business attire but adore sewing, baking, tea, gardening, and wear lolita in my free time on some weekends. Don't really know what to think.

>> No.9501676

Lucky ducky, I only have one 2-plate set but I actually use it though I'm careful and hand wash it. I rarely see if for sale on AP USA so I'm not sure how to snag some more burando dishes. I really want a pretty and delicate burando tea cup, not a mug though.

>> No.9501684

a lolita but not a lifestyle lolita, i guess? everybody has different criteria when it comes to slapping a label on things but i personally don't consider people lifestyle lolitas unless they wear the fashion throughout most of the week. my job has a dress code but i usually get redressed in lolita after work just to hang around the house or go out. not sure if that answered your question

>> No.9501687

I actually just picked up a cute new IW and VM tea cup sets and i can't wait to invite some friends over for tea so I can use them!

>> No.9501709

I think the majority of lolita-at-heart lurkers weren't annoying, it's those who were trying to post in lolita spaces with their non-lolita things insisting they were actually the real creative lolitas and the brand whores who bought full sets were just dull and boring. I still privately call them 'doily heads' because one girl had some kind of table doily lace looking thing on her head with her 'creative coordinate' one time and I thought it was the perfect example.
Mostly from tumblr and mostly thankfully few and far between, their lacy legend lives on.

People who don't wear lolita yet but plan to and actually go on to do it, even just a coordinate or two aren't usually like that at all. The only thing I'd caution anyone about is what you addressed, about lurking and learning and NOT just joining or jumping into the community with a bunch of posts and opinions until actually starting to put together that first coord.

I think if you actually wear lolita and like to pursue what are considered lifestyle things in your free time then that counts as lifestyler. Most people who have dress codes pursue their lolita fashion and activities in their free time. I think a few hardcore lifestylers try and arrange their working life so they can wear toned down lolita to their jobs but if I had to choose, I'd pick a better job with wearing lolita in my off time.

>> No.9501719

Oh lovely, where did you buy them? I'd love to see them and see more photos of friends meeting for tea and such, another reason I miss having a Daily Lolita type place to post, of course most people won't self-post here, nor do I blame them but CoF isn't the place to post fun lifestyler lolita things either. I'm not sure there is a good place for posting Lifestyle lolita things. Maybe on Instagram, tagging #lifestylelolita? #lolitalife? #lifeinlolita? Themed Instagram accounts are pretty popular.

>> No.9501722


^ here's said post seriously the best resource for noobs^

>> No.9501738

I actually got one from wunderwelt and they occasionally pop up on y!Japan. I see mostly cute/modern styles. I prefer the classic looking ones from brands just because they look better in my cabinet next to my older antique tea sets. But desu I wouldn't mind picking up more cute tablewear even from brands like AP. I've been really nostalgic for older sweet prints and their matching plate wear. I saw a lot more of it back then (2008 or so) then I do now.

>> No.9501755

That's a great one. I feel that posts like these are much better at getting the ideas across than blogs like Lolita Tips on tumblr or the Facebook Big Sisters group. I'm not sure what kind of up-to-date resources there are for newbies these days, I think older lolitas who are in the fashion already can kind of forget to be as helpful as they maybe should be for the people just starting out.

>> No.9502100

I get most of mine from closetchild and usagiyouhinten!

>> No.9502352

Anon do what i do. Antique shop.
I can't tell you how many cute tea sets i've acquired from antique shopping.

Also this thread makes me want to hold a meet and make all the food cause i love cooking, meal prepping, and baking. Sadly my house is not a cute place to do this :/

>> No.9502378

I know how to find cute antique and regular teacups, but I want a burando cup and saucer or at least a teacup.

Why not have a picnic meet in a pretty place? My electric kettle works in my car on a D.C. plug, so even tea is possible. Or just serve something like strawberry lemonade for the drink.

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Anons I just saw this pop up on y!Japan from closet child! It's not quite my style so I'm passing it on to you!


>> No.9502465

I want to have burando house items as well, but im making myself first get my wardrobe to a good size so i can wear lolita everyday.
And i hadn't thought about a park that's a good idea! <3 Thank you~

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>> No.9502478

Discussion question, since >>9502465 brought up wardrobe size and everyday wear: how many main pieces ( skirts, jsk or op) do you think a lifestyle lolita needs for daily wear? Minimum number and an ideal number.
Also how about blouses and shoes?
To start, I say 7 main pieces absolute minimum because weekly laundry/regular cleaning. Better if they are washable. Blouses would depend on how many main pieces were OP, say 3 OP so that leaves 4 days per week needing a blouse. Some blouses can be lolified, even thrifted.

Alternating days for shoes so 2 pair of shoes.
7 sets of legwear.
At least 2 head accessories though you can find some non-lolita bows, Alice bands etc.
assorted jewelry from various sources and some handmade.
An functional full front apron will be a staple since cooking in lolita requires dress protection.

What else? Other suggestions?

>> No.9502548

I agree with you.

I also think that at least a parasol in a neutral color (off-white, ivory or black) is ideal, a simple bag that fit any outfit and a vest or a coat, depending of where you live.

Of course, you can have more of them but I think they are nice additions to a building wardrobe.

>> No.9502557

As someone who's currently trying to wear lolita as often as possible, I've noticed that what I'm missing most in my wardrobe is blouses, cutsews, cardigans/boleros and legwear. Skirts and even JSKs (if you wear a blouse underneath) don't need to be washed every single time you wear them but blouses and leg wear do, plus blouses/cardi's/legwear are a great way to mix it up with only a few main pieces. If I had only the minimum number of blouses/cardi's and would have to coord my main pieces the same way every time I'd get so bored so quickly. Cutsews are great for lazy/comfy days, too.

Also seconding an apron, especially if it has pockets. Many of my skirts and dresses don't have pockets and when I'm bumming around the house I often put on my apron just so I have something to carry my phone around in.

>> No.9502583

It can depend cause some lolitas touch all sub-types which means they need more variety.
I personally am into gothic and i think:
>7-10 main peices{inluding skirts}
>7-10 blouses/cutsews
>2-3 pairs of shoes
>unlimited accessories and socks{variety is always nice}

But 100% agree on the apron, cause protection is needed and aprons are cute as fug. And i personally love cooking,baking and meal prepping.
Also an everyday light petticoat. Sadly cant always be maximum poof.

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Sakurayu is loli as fuck. It's also easy to find on the interwebs.

>> No.9502601

Pretty much what everyone else had said but I also want to add in a hoop skirt/crinoline is a necessity when you in an area that stays around 90f at minimum all summer long, especially with high humidity. It's also good for layering with under heavy things like velvet and it never deflates like petticoats do.

Since I've seen a lot of anon's asking before here's how you sit in one.

>> No.9502602

And I dropped the link. https://youtu.be/5fK-J-WR230?t=192

>> No.9502725

As a ceramic student I have in mind to make a teaset next year. I'm just terrible at making molds and my decoration skill sucks, so I hope it will turn out well

>> No.9502766

Meh, more like daily blow-job. At least that's what housewife-chan likes to tell us.

>> No.9502769

Pickled cherry blossom tea? Is it tasty? It look really pretty but...pickled?

>> No.9502770

Pouring spout is most important thing to master, so I'm told. One that won't drip.

>> No.9502776

I need one of these. I see lolita models wear them for fashion shows and I'm ready to trade poof for a cage in the summer. I saw that fanplusfriend has one but I wonder about the quality. Any other suggested sources for a lolita-sized one, anons?

>> No.9502781

iirc there was someone who modded the cage petticoat you can get at Ikea (it was part of a kids costume) and the poof looked pretty good

>> No.9502791

Thanks anon, I'll look into that. I wonder where the lolita models get theirs though.

>> No.9502794

I just made mine using this tutorial. If you don't wanna make it and the Ikea one doesn't work out I've heard decent things about the one from fan+friend.


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Pinterest anon again, gonna dump some more cute stuff. Gotta try this out with the buttons on my cardigans.

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Make your speakers less ugly and more grandma

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I would make these less tacky but I still dig it. Saw another one with a similar concept but it was a heart instead.

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Gotta troll the thrift store for a decent shirt to alter now

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Now I finally have a use for all the ric rac I've banished to the bottom of my craft bin

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Cute hangers for cute clothes! Use up all your fabric scraps.

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For all you natural hair lovers

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Aaand end dump

>> No.9503049

Oh I've GOT to try this.
...and it keeps its same shape forever...
Music to my ears!
Any further tips besides the tutorial itself from making yours shorter and for a cupcake shape lolita skirt?

>> No.9503053

OMG imagine if someone bought a damaged brand dress and did this!

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Here's a more indepth one actually. You basically just do the same but shorter. Someone even sent in pictures of a lolita length one. It will be more expensive using this material however.


>> No.9503072

I think you're right, at least with the first part. I wear lolita almost every day, never post coords to CoF or even on my personal FB.

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never forget

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My heart still hurts every time I see that

>> No.9503333

I love this! I don't wear Sweet but I like sweet prints, it's a perfect way to enjoy them. What's the story, who did this?

>> No.9503344

Supposedly some anon's step mom thought her Baby dress was in a donation pile (it wasn't), took it apart and made that out of the fabric. Whether real or not, this pic will forever make me shudder.

>> No.9503348


I looked it up on lolibrary, it was about $225 new so not as great a loss as she thought at least. But who just leaves piles of clothes in the main living area and then leaves for a week.

>> No.9503356

This is sort of intreguing to me... I have a damaged AP wool JSK that my mother threw into the wash without permission a few years ago (I did my own laundry but she wanted to "help" me since I was stressed about finals) and the wool has shrunken. I've just held onto it since then because I obviously can't sell it but I'm upset about it since I never got to wear it, it just came in the mail from CC and I wanted to wash it before wear. Anyone have any good ideas for what to do with it? Use it as decor somehow? Maybe turn the applique part into a pillow?

>> No.9503379

try "Unshrinkit Unshrinking Solution for Cashmere, Wool and Wool Blend Clothing" before you call it quits and make it into something else

>> No.9503381

It depends, what does it look like? Pillow sounds good.

>> No.9503382
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Does anyone else practice historical hobbies/crafts? I've been using a knotting shuttle for a while ago (purchased from a historical re-enactment site) to make strands for embroidery, and I've been prepping to attempt to recreate some historical embroidery patterns based on samplers and other pieces from the 18th-19th centuries.

>> No.9503440

I wasnt sure what thread to put it in, but here's some car seat ita. First of it's kind I think. >>9503435

>> No.9503618

I looked into it, but it says "Note: Unshrinkit unfortunately does not work on felted (i.e. extremely shrunk or matted) garments." and I think that the dress has matted too much. I'll see if I can find it in a local shop though. I don't really want to buy something online that I'm fairly certain won't work. Thank you for the suggestion, though!

It's this JSK in pink. https://lolibrary.org/items/ap-bunny-chan-dressing-up-jsk

>> No.9503652

I love researching different time periods etiquette because it can give such good input into how they lived their lives...but they don't work for modern settings in the slightest.

I do wish more folks knew how to take tea/dinner in a formal setting though. Just simple things like
1. Don't start eating until everyone has been served.
2. Pass from left to right.
3. If someone asks for something, closest person picks it up and passes it, not reaching over the fucking table and bumping everything / Tossing it over.
4. If refilling your cup, ask your neighbors if they would like to be topped off too.

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Gonna dumb some DIY stuff I have saved

I have never tried this but who wouldn't want own unique teaset?

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Recycling bottles (for where you can't return them to the shop)

>> No.9503662

I think this would make a great blog post if anyone blogs. " Manners at Meets, a primer."
A photo on simple table settings and how to place your napkin and silver if you leave the table but aren't finished and then what to do with them when you are finished would be helpful too.
Many people also forget to thank the meet planner/host(ess) as well and say polite goodbyes instead of just dashing off.

Tea manners would be a good one too, there are lots of little manners concerning steeping and stirring tea, eating from a shared tea service and how to actually eat scones politely.

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Some cute fairy lights
/end of mini dumb, all the others I have are something you need skill to do

>> No.9503674

Thank you for the dump anon. These lights would be really cute at a home-hosted evening tea party.
The decal transfers are also a very cool idea.

>> No.9503675

Most people thought it was a fake story

>> No.9503678

I love the bunny, I think you should craft something with the jsk. Maybe the bows too if they are useable still. Bunny pillow plus a solid pink and solid white pillow from a different fabric with the bows on the solid pillows so you'd have a coordinated trio. Maybe make a headbow from one of the spare bows. Another possible idea I'd If you see or find a pattern, you might be able to make the skirt bottom into a capelet to wear?

>> No.9503679

Well real or fake that ironing board is burando now, haha!

>> No.9503688

Any other embroidery anons out there? I know, there are of course but it may be fun to share our projects we have worked on/ are working on together.

Sorry I don't think I was clear, I wasn't trying to equate arm-chair, conlitas or lolitas at heart to lolita identity. I was more trying to say I think someone who wears lolita maybe only 3 days out of the week is more life style to me if they engage in a lot of subcultural things than the current popular notion of a lifestyler which is someone who wears the fashion everyday.

You expressed the point much better, thank you.

>> No.9503691

this is the most impressive thing I have ever seen

>> No.9503702

turn the fur into a muff and detachable collar maybe?

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As a potato, I can attest that I do want to be kawaii too. <3

I've been working on paper making, and I do English Country Dance. Its alot of fun though I'd never do it in Lolita unless there was an event cause it gets pretty fast pace and hot in the room for all those layers... Its much more fitting for a Jane Austen shift. I also make calling cards for fun.

I'm actually planning to submit a panel for Katsu2018 on Manners. Might make it into a blog post too. :) Its understandable that most people don't know because etiquette classes aren't taught in school now, so unless you're going to these functions there's no way to know---but if our primary meetup of choice is going to be sitting at a table for 3 hours and chatting, we need to collectively work on that.

>> No.9503713

I'd recommend Darjeeling tea. As expensive as tea can probably get, but the aroma and aftertaste that keeps lingering for hours might be well worth it. You might have difficulties finding the authentic one though, as fakes are pretty common, and you should probably lurk a bit on the brewing procedure.
A nice-looking porcelain tea set would also complement your fancy tea parties in a great way.

>> No.9503714

Conversation topic do's and fonts would also be helpful. No moaning about weight, no overshare, no moping at the meet, modulate voice levels, etc etc etc. I'm sure if you ask here on anon, everyone in the general will tell you the nightmare fuel stories! I hope you get the panel and I'd love to read the outline and follow up afterwards if you write one, for those of us who don't attend Katsucon.

>> No.9503726

My favorite recipe for tea sandwiches are radish sandwiches with cracked pepper and chive cream cheese on brown bread or oat bread And then traditional watercress sandwiches on dense white bread. Crusts cut, quartered in triangles and properly smashed flat of course.

For sweet, I like macarons, pot au creme or mini creme brûlée, glazed fruit tarts with custard filling. Lemon curd or honey beats jam or marmalade in my book.

Great now I'm hungry at 1AM.

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Here's some great idea if you're bad at decorating

>> No.9503746

I have tried it.

It is not.

>> No.9504084

There are some awesome ideas here.
What's the consensus on brands such as leur getter and Emily temple cute. Do they classify as casual lolita as some people would have us think?

>> No.9504094

Many pieces from both do if made into a full lolita coordinate. ETC has always been accepted but not as popular as the main brands.
Some people really like them for versatility because if the dresses are worn outside a coord, they just look cute and quirky in everyday fashion too.

>> No.9504113

But would it be American or European?

>> No.9504120

It just depends on the clothes and how you coord them. ETC has been in GLB a few times and Misako promotes brands like Milk, Leur Getter and Jane Marple as casual lolita. But they also release stuff that isn't suitable for Lolita so you just have to use common sense and experience.

>> No.9504127

Ideally one for each or do both together and highlight the differences. There's not that much transatlantic visiting for events but I can't see how knowing more manners is ever a bad thing.

Most bloggers like to write for their home audience though so if it's Katsu panel anon, I assume American.

>> No.9504208

Thanks for the insight :)

>> No.9504262

I know there is a room thread but how about which styles do you prefer for living spaces? Shabby Chic? Antiques that feel more Victorian? A clean and simple more Scandinavian feel? Grandma couch and a Cat Lady Kitch?
I think some people do some lolifying projects within their spaces but what about actual decor themes?
What would be your ideal getting ready space or parlour decor? Would you turn a spare bedroom into a closet or Princess Room if you could? Or maybe a home library or music room?

I like Fanny Rosie's decor and I love gilded mirrors and some Victorian antiques.

>> No.9504296

i want to make these! i've had them pinned to my diy board forever!

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I cross stitch, but I've been really lazy/neglecting to do it for a while now. Since it's summer and finals are done I'm going to get off my lazy bum and stitch my hands off now that I don't have any excuses to not do it. Planning on doing either pic related or a couple of pokemon pixel sprites first to get back into it. Also looking into other types of embroidery and seeing if I can use them on the extra cross stitch fabric I have lying around.

>> No.9504388

No offense, but that tutorial horrifies me. Just use steel boning.

>> No.9504391

I recently found an embroidery shop near me and I'm super excited to start working on more projects! I can never find any dark red colors at the craft store but this place has every shade imaginable. Once I've made a bit of progress I'll post some photos.

Lemon curd master race

It's hard to describe but I like little touches of a lot of different styles. Creating an eclectic mix of what I like is much more fun than sticking to one theme. It's a mish mash of florals, Victorian style tableware, American linens and embroidery, rustic country, and a smattering of grandma couch and gothic influences. I also want to bring in more of a mori inspired influence. It'd be fantastic if I had strands of flowers and greenery on the borders of my windows, doors, and cabinets, maybe even some baskets hanging from the ceiling.

>> No.9504406

Why exactly is that ita. It looks really cute imo. Are you that one anon that thinks anything nitpicky is ita?

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Maybe a bit morbid, but I'm planning on a historical-style mourning miniature using a deceased love one's hair. I wish I could share this project with friends/family but I once brought up the concept when we somehow got on the subject of mourning practices and they were disgusted/horrified by the idea, so I think it might disturb them if they knew.

>> No.9506164

I had no idea that was a thing. How bizarre.

Whose hair are you gunna use.

>> No.9506165

These are beautiful, I like the big wreaths too.

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It seems like hair used to be frequently used in the 18th and 19th centuries in mourning mementos--jewelry or miniatures and such--but not so much today. Cremated remains seem pretty commonly used for jewelry or at least it's not very unusual. The funeral director had a book full of jewelry you could buy where it would contain cremated remains.

>Whose hair are you gunna use.

My sister's

There's so many beautiful designs. I like this one that uses a braid to frame too.

>> No.9506330

I'm sorry for your loss, anon. That's next level, mourning jewelry is a beautiful memento.

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Pinterest anon again! Imma dump a little more to help keep the thread going.

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This is a super cute way to modify a t-shirt into a cutsew!

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And end dump!

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It was also in Kuroshitsuji. Undertaker is always carrying a couple of these.

>> No.9509067

I want to do these. Does anyone have any favorite shops/websites to buy nice artificial flowers that don't break the bank? I just moved and I have a lot of diy stuff I want to do around the house to make it cute but all my local craft stores have low quality flowers for $5 each, and all the nice flowers are around $20 for a single rose.

>> No.9509072

Those were really cute, anon. I'll make sure to use them for my next tea party!

>> No.9509081

Sorry, but you can't call yourself a "lifestyle lolita" if you don't wear the fashion everyday, just as you can't call yourself a "lolita" if you don't own/wear lolita clothes. All the hobbies are just extra. You're not a lifestyle lolita if you embroider and drink tea, but do it while wearing normie clothes.

>> No.9509098

No one in this thread claimed otherwise.

>> No.9509100

Um yes. Even lifestyle lolita's go to work and the gym and stuff. Lifestyle Lolita is something the western community made up, who are you to decide what it is?

>> No.9509103

>Lifestyle Lolita is something the western community made up
Not entirely true, the GLBs are full of content related to lolita and j-goth that isn't just fashion. Some of it is tongue-in-cheek like the spread that describes the daily routines of a lolita and a goth but there's plenty of recommendations for music, movies, literature and art that - According to the writers of the magazine - Is considered appropriate for lolita, goth, and gothic lolitas, which you could say is some sort of "lifestyle" like what is discussed in these threads.

>> No.9509107

I know that, but they never seperated that into lifestyle Lolita and "it's just clothes" Lolita

>> No.9509109

Btw those are just Lolita subculture things to me, I've always thought lifestyle Lolita was weird term that means different things depending on who uses it but I like these threads

>> No.9509110

Oh, that might depend on personal interpretation. The way I see it, the subculture aspects and lifestyle concepts of lolita are one and the same, and both demand that participants actually wear the fashion of course.

>> No.9509121

But then there are people who just think of it as clothes and maybe even dislike lifestyle Lolita, but they still wear clothes that're influenced by "lifestyle Lolita things" like music (malice mizer) and movies (alice in wonderland)?

>> No.9509132

I meant that one couldn't participate in the subculture/lifestyle and be considered a lolita without wearing the clothes. Whether an individual participates in the subculture/lifestyle while wearing the clothes depends on personal choice.

>> No.9509140

Gangbangs are pretty rococo desu

>> No.9509204

anybody have links or know where I could find a classic white pinafore apron, but it's actually for cooking and cleaning not just show (so a thicker material I guess)?

>> No.9509206

forgot to add, all the ones I can find are for costumes, and are very thin

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A question for all the gothic lolitas out there: Do you consider yourself apart of the gothic lifestyle? If so, how does lolita play a role in that? Do you like tea parties, well-made fashion and the lolita elements?

I always considered gothic lolita something of almost a hybrid style. A "gothic lolita" lifestyler is not quite like a classic or sweet lifestyler. Sweet and classic seem to be closer to one another in "lifestyle", while gothic lolita borrows heavily from goth and "gothic lolita" seems to be the flavor of goth.

>> No.9509539

Yeah. I go to clubs and shows in gothic lolita, but I did those things before when I was just goth. I don't know about people whose first exposure to the subculture is lolita. Like if they get more involved later on, start listening to goth/post-punk music, etc.

>> No.9509564

I noticed some people that got into lolita were goths before or still they are. I wear more sweet lolita than gothic lolita due to having not much items for it, while my non lolita gothic wardrobe is more furnished. I'm not a Goth in the western sense, more closer to 'Jgoth' in music tastes (note: visual kei and jgoth could be separated and music is more electronic, industrial or merge together in bands like Velvet Eden in my opinion) and styling/fashion.
I noticed there are many gothic (sweet and classic too) lolitas in goth japanese events.

>> No.9509684

They are still visual kei, if it's just jgoth they wouldn't dress and do make-up that way, visual kei isn't one music style

>> No.9509706

I had been a goth for nearly a decade before I started wearing lolita. My music taste, home and general aesthetic is still heavily influenced by western goth, but there isn't really a goth scene where I live anymore, and I work stupid hours so I haven't been to a goth club in years.

>> No.9509808

I got into lolita when I was 16, but before that I tried to be goth (which, naturally, did not work out that well). I still enjoy a lot of aspects from goth culture and frequently attend goth events (like parties, concerts, festivals), but I consider myself to be more on the fringe of the subculture.

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How is that lifestyle lolita related? Or maybe going to cosplay as Undertaker?

>> No.9510087

Hey, fucking weeb. Did you read any of the thread where people are talking about historical influences and historical hobbies and idk just fucking history in general or is something being tangentially related to your precious animu too much of a distraction.

>sage for salt and no contribute

>> No.9510089

I'm sorry for your loss, anon. All my love to you <3

Personally, I'm a big fan of Victorian mourning culture. I had previously found these books on amazon, I immediately thought of them when you mentioned the hair jewelry. They helped me scrape morbidly through some painful losses, if you're into dealing with things that way. I hope you like them, anon!


There's some interesting ones in the related books list as well, books about the Mutter Museum, early medical illustrations, and early crime-scene photography, if you're interested later.
For anyone else who's interested in general, try looking up "Victorian Mourning Jewelry" just on google, etc, it's really beautiful stuff.

If anyone is interested in mourning-related/gothic literature, try looking up "The Graveyard Poets" as well as Edgar Allen Poe.
There's also this book about the evolution of gothic/horror literature and culture:

>> No.9510245

Nayrt but thank you anon, the subject fascinates me and book recommendations are always great to have!

>> No.9510265

You see dear, there's this thing called context and reading. If you read the thread, you would see they were responding to someone asking if anyone did embroidery. And that person brought up embroidery because the thread contains comments regarding various hobbies and activities that people associate with lifestyle lolita, one of which is embroidery which has a long historical tradition.

>> No.9510268

>thinks Kuroshitsuji invented hair mementos

Jesus, fans of that series really are absolute cancer.

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"The Sick Rose" is gorgeous.

I love historical mourning traditions. I feel like in modern society we're expected to hide and squash our grief right after the funeral because it makes other people uncomfortable to talk about death, whereas historically you were allowed and even expected to express it with mementos and jewelry and fashion well beyond the burial of your loved one. Practicing some historical aspects of mourning culture have definitely helped me after deaths, it feels more cathartic to me, like I'm actually processing the death by acknowledging it in various ways.

Try etsy, I've seen a few there. You can always ask them to use a linen or other thick material if they're custom made.

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Oomph. I love web designs.
Here's some more.

>> No.9510358

That's extraordinarily sweet of you and I hope it comes out beautifully. I've always wanted to make something similar but have similar reservations about how people would react to it.

I'm a gothic lolita and have never considered myself "goth," even though I've listened to and loved goth music for well over a decade. While I love brewing tea, baking and cooking for friends, sewing, gardening and lengthy conversations about lolita I also spend a lot of time studying anatomy and pathology, visiting graveyards, watching old horror movies, hoarding photography and art of very morbid subjects and decorating my home with as many macabre things as I can find. I thoroughly dislike the "gothic" label, even the "romantic goth" label, simply because of the negative connotations it evokes in most people. If I tell my coworkers I wear so many black dresses because I'm a "gothic lolita," the reception would be terrible. I prefer to say that death, mortality, dark and grisly things can be beautiful, and I want to fill my life with beautiful things.

>> No.9510386

They're buns but they're little bunnies and brown ears and so round and plump andirrbfurbriUu765y;776t&G6+7nvgf+3+

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>tfw using pieces of your dead sister for Kuroshitsuji cosplay

>> No.9510688

even for 4chan this is disgustingly insensitive

>> No.9510887

Congrats anon, your a goth who refuses to be called goth, like all the most goth people- Andrew Eldritch et al.

>> No.9510980

I kinda like the idea. People used to have locks of hair for remembering their loved ones when they were far away or dead, I can understand the desire to have something tangible remain. Especially in the time when people didn't have photos or recordings of someone's voice or such, I totally get it.
Sounds like a good, touching idea. sorry for your loss.

>> No.9510986

I laughed.

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>you were allowed and even expected to express it with mementos and jewelry and fashion well beyond the burial of your loved one
Yeah, my mother told me that she remembers her mom (my grandma) being kinda grateful for the widow's veil. My granddad died very suddenly and left her with 3 kids and a difficult situation, and she had to balance both mourning for the sudden loss and somehow rallying to go from society housewife for sole breadwinner for 4 people, and apparently she would scream in her nightmares calling for him for months.

She would occasionally also burst to tears of anguish while doing the groceries or such, and people just saw the black clothes and the black mourning veil and immediately knew what the problem was and sort of knew how to react. The mourning traditions gave her a permission to fall apart publicly, in a way, there was a pre-agreed social code of conduct for those situations

>> No.9511292

God I hate weeaboos

>> No.9511297

>not recognizing an obvious bait

>> No.9511302

One of the reasons for the development of mourning fashion was so that people could outwardly display their grief in a way that was obvious to everyone around them, and so that the grieving person would be spared constantly having to explain their situation, so your grandmother's feelings are definitely understandable.

>> No.9511578

Yes because in reality I don't feel 100% other reasons like wearing also sweet in , not having a goth styled room and so on. I don't have a full gothic lifestyle nor I listen much to the classics of goth music even if I heard some of them or need to find more artists that fit my tastes.
Lolita lifestyle is more fitting for myself rather of a full blown goth lifestyle.

>> No.9511594

I listen to goth music and sometimes go to goth clubs but I don't consider myself part of the goth lifestyle really, although I sometimes joke that I'm a "part-time goth"...I love history and gothic architecture but I don't feel on the same page as most goths I meet since I don't like any other stereotypically gothic things. I hate tacky Halloween stuff, occult themes, and don't enjoy horror movies or gory/creepy things. I had a little bit of an edgy streak when I was younger but I definitely don't now. I basically just like the fashion and some of the music and don't have the morbid outlook, which makes me feel like a poser in goth circles.

Even though I ended up becoming a daily lolita, one of the reasons I originally really embraced gothic lolita was because it made me feel like I could wear multiple styles and that was okay. It's totally normal to wear, say, gothic AND classic, and in your average comm most lolitas don't give a shit what you wear when you're not at meets, even if it's not alt or girly at all. Totally different to the goth scene when I was younger which had an insane amount of gothier-than-thou gatekeeping and made me feel like I had to either wear goth exclusively or not participate at all.

>> No.9512096

I would love to talk with you about hair jewelry. I've worked on a few pieces myself but its so tricky to even do simple things... Though I was using some locks that had some pretty bad split ends. Have you started any yet? If you havent, and you only have so much of your Sisters hair available, I'd recommend trying things on some one elses or even get some wig hair to practice with first.

Thank you for the links.

> re: mourning traditions // and life now
Unfortunately our modern culture has gotten too removed from death to where it's basically impossible to talk about too. As someone who worked at a cemetery, people have moved to pretending it doesnt happen until it does and then it being a disaster.

I have to be blunt about this cause I have so many feelings after seeing families come into our office tearing themselves apart... Talk to your family and find out what they want and get it put in writing. If they want to go in the ground or mausoleum, get them to start paying on it now. I was working on a scanning project for the old documents to go digital and the price flux over the last 5 years was ridiculous. You can pay on it now like a car payment if its what you want. Dont leave it guys. Talk to your senpai. Sorry for the rant.

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Foreword: I am obviously very /not/ lolita, but as someone who by profession and hobby spends 90% of his time in the 18thC or earlier, I feel quite at home here.

Holy crap. Thanks for the dump! Stealing these for the next tea party I host.

>Does anyone else practice historical hobbies/crafts?
Short answer: Yes.

Its all quite prudent today as well.

>As a potato, I can attest that I do want to be kawaii too. <3
Embrace your potato. I do. Pic related.

Momento Mori.

>> No.9512917

You're as close to the kind of Renaissance man most lifestyle gulls could hope for. Any tips?

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I will embrace my kawaii potato, Gropey Senpai~<3

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It's me, the pinterest anon again lol. In honor of all the goth discussion I found some cool things to mix in my dump. Goth stuff on pinterest is mostly tacky as fuck but I tried to curate the nicer stuff.

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The execution of this idea is a bit tacky imo but the concept of fairy skeletons is interesting to me

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Tea cup wine glasses omg

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Aaand end dump

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It sounds kinda like a cop-out answer, but one of the real turning points I can think of for the idea of "lifestyle" is that of ritual. Take care and pride in everything that you do.

Think of this: my gf and I like to have tea and a drink in the evening. I could just microwave a couple of coffee cups of water, drop a couple tea bags in, and spoon some sugar and cream in before sitting my fat ass down on the couch. No fuss, no muss.

OR, I could take the time to boil a kettle and fill the teapot. I could slow down and dress a few sugar cubes on a tray and have the bottle of brandy ready. I could garnish with a few small stawberries just because I know the color looks good, and my gf likes them. When that tray is placed on our beat up coffee table, it has some care and meaning to it. These little bits of reflection and consideration are what every manners and ettiquette book boil down to. Though small, the psychological impact and sense of satisfaction is gratifying. pic related.

And as an aside, being properly polite to people who you are at odds with is a great way to drive them absolutely insane.

>> No.9513614

Thank you for sharing this, it's an excellent example for why the lifestyle concept of lolita appeals to me so much.

>> No.9513635

So basically mourning fashion should make a comeback

>> No.9513637

There is no fetish too extreme that I wouldn't agree to if I could have a boyfriend that would do that shit for me.

>> No.9513640

>being this thirsty

>> No.9513645

Please consider: Doing this for yourself.

>> No.9513647

Be the best potato you can be, anon.

Hmm. These look kind of like death-mask portraits.

Glad to be of service.

Please, if you're near an olf school catholic community, its never gone away.

How do you feel about clowns and macaroni fashion?

I have enough tea, sangria and brandy for everyone's thirst.

>> No.9513654

>dat post
Comfy/10. Would have tea with.

>> No.9513704

>I have enough tea, sangria and brandy for everyone's thirst

Now thats smooth.

>> No.9513738

>Please, if you're near an olf school catholic community, its never gone away.
Why are you so fake

>> No.9513795

What are you talking about? Mourning black is important for a lot of Roman Catholics. Its mostly older women, but its comming back into fashion.

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You've inspired me to try this. You're right, the psychology of it is so important. It may be more practical do just put it in a mug, but I think doing this would make every day a bit more "lifestyle" and would give me a really relaxing break that'd take you away from everything while you do it.

I think I'll try doing some high tea treats as well. I was thinking of just learning to make clotted cream myself since it's like a specialty item in the USA. Does anyone have any recipes for it or have ever had it homemade?

Here's some clotted cream for your A+ strawberries, Gropey. A bit of history in the picture for everyone.

>> No.9513817

We already knew old ladies did it
>it never went away
>its coming back into fashion
Which is it?

>> No.9513819

When you go to visual kei lives do you ever see other lolitas that you don't know yet?
I met my current best friend at a visual kei live because we were both wearing a baby dress, but besides her the only lolitas I've seen at lives were ita as hell.

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Only the finest, while we sit on the couch in our pajamas, binge watching futurama.

I grew up in a state that still divides its zipcodes by parishes, and has latin mass as a standard. Women wearing mantles or shawls was so regular, you could make a game out of "victorian goth fashion, or mourning catholic?".

Its still a big deal in Catholic countries as well.


Awesome. I've not had clotted cream in years. Might have to make some...

>> No.9513829

I think what anon means is that the fashion (which never actually went away) is gaining normalized popularity again.

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I have my own "fake" clotted cream recipe that I like more because its richer, tarter, and sweeter // doesn't involve scalding milk forever.

Let half a block of cream cheese sit out until room temp. Whip with mixer to be fluffy. Add vanilla extract or even almond! Pour heavy cream slowly and keep mixing until fluffy, nicely whipped. Try not to over whip or it becomes buttery and more heavy. If you want it to be a little sweet, powdered sugar is a neutral add, but I love honey. If you have a sweet jam though its usually not necessary.

Its also really good on pancakes with blueberries.

>> No.9514124

The fuck you on, bitch? Gropalope-senpai is right.

>> No.9514177

there are plenty of places that sell teas ready made in loose leaf form and in bags some have flavors you would not normally get.
Republic of tea
premium steep
to name a few
these places sell many types of tea, some of my fav are:
blooming ( peach ) - Tevana
Republic of tea - Red velvet, rose petal, celebration, ginseng green

Sometimes I make ginger tea by scratch just by boiling ginger and honey

If you boil the ginger with brown sugar until it thickens; strain it, and wait until it cools.
You can add it seltzer to make a ginger soda with way less sugar.

Peppermint tea - by boiling peppermint leaves
mountain mint tea by boiling mountain mint leaves
I also make a "Health tea"i guess
- earl grey ( any black tea will do ) steeped or boiled
- ground cinnamon
- Bay leaves
- Nutmeg
- tumeric
- teaspoon of honey
- milk ( i use almond (non sweetened ) because i am intolerant )
You can also process your tea yourself. If you do this you can either grow herbs to do " bush teas" or herbals. ( like chamomile, mint, ginger etc)
buy a camellia sensis plant for green/white/yellow/black
or get a roobious plant for red tea.
Depending type you want will determine if processing is very simple and short or long and a bit tedious.
You can add flavor with food grade oils and dried fruit, and flowers.

>> No.9514203

Not that anon but consider this: some people get more enjoyment out of sharing experiences with others, especially a significant other, instead of by themselves.

>> No.9514321

I just really hate and distrust guys especially in lolita also I live in a Catholic country and we only wear black to a funeral and related events.

>> No.9514362

Just so you know, teavona will soon cease to exist. Buy youre loose leaf tea now while you can.

>> No.9514430

Your distrust is toxic. And im in a catholic country too, and mourning dress periods are a thing again.

>> No.9514444

Don't let the name fool you. Gropey has proven himself to be a real gentleman IRL.

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>> No.9514501

Yeah I wear lolita at least once a week
(generally more) and while I still take the time to post online, at this point I think it's more for me then anyone else. Most of my stuff is pretty simple and easy to wear so it doesn't get a ton of attention.

>> No.9514528

I doubt it? It is with Starbucks so seems unlikely.

>> No.9514896

Well, Gropey most certainly isn't lolita. Hes just a historic reenactor and a performer, which leads to a lot of useful outside perspective and advice. He's one of the good ones, despite his crass name.

>> No.9514913

Even if it does there are many other places that sell loose leaf tea; besides I prefer Republic of tea over Tevana

>> No.9514930

>It sounds kinda like a cop-out answer, but one of the real turning points I can think of for the idea of "lifestyle" is that of ritual. Take care and pride in everything that you do.

Im totally trying this now. Thanks for the inspo <3

>> No.9515003

My preferred decor style is close to shabby chic. Living with a man means I've compromised and my living room is done up in mid-century modern, in a turquoise, green, and white color scheme. Not very lolita sadly. My bedroom is pink and grey with a bit of a 1920s feel (crystal lamps, hairpin furniture). My kitchen is undone and honestly trashy, I need to spruce it up soon

>> No.9515123

I've done it in the oven before, I don't have a recipe handy but that method worked really well for me

>> No.9516980

>Well thought out, in-depth write up about the psychology of etiquette and self wellness
How excellent! I wonder if-
>And as an aside, being properly polite to people who you are at odds with is a great way to drive them absolutely insane.
Now thats what I expect out of /cgl/.

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> tfw no gf has never been stronger

>> No.9517054

I don't know if anyone's heard of them but I subscribe to two magazines that have a lot of cute tea party and aesthetic pictures and recepies in them. Tea Time and Victoria. I don't know if they're avaliable outside of the US but they're very inspiring for ideas for tea party's or interior decorating!

>> No.9517321

Make your own satin/silk ribbon roses.

>> No.9517330

As a teavana partner I also want the sauce. I hate it here and I need hope.

>> No.9517528

That sounds awesome!

Might be boring, my current go-to is a no.1 English blend with sugar, milk and a dash of rose water.

Indeed, as is the self satisfaction for doing it for others.

Nothing of value lost. I was never impressed by their overpriced, lackluster teas.

>Well, Gropey most certainly isn't lolita.
Not pretty enough.

Support your local tea shop.

Go forth, and be foppish!

If the separate storefront is not generating revenue, it wouldn't be unheard of for them to close teavana and just fold the product into the mainstream brand.

An why so?

>> No.9518763

Rose water in tea? Sounds yummy.

>> No.9518793

I've seen Victoria at Barnes and Noble in the US!

>> No.9520772

Its also amazing for baking and candies. Violet, lavender and all the florals are underappreciated.

>> No.9520779

And how are you supposed to remove that?

A mix of >>9513481 and >>9513488 would be perfect: a guirland of glittery jolly fairy skeletons!

>> No.9520973 [DELETED] 

You apply with starch jelly and not actual glue, if you wash it with warm water it will come off.

>> No.9520977

You apply with starch jelly and not actual glue, if you wash it with warm water it will come off.

>First mix two tablespoons cornflour (also known as cornstarch) and two tablespoons cold water until it forms a paste, then dissolve this in about a cup and a half boiling water. You should end up with a nice gloopy liquid.

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>> No.9522386

I am so happy this thread exists. I just wish I had more cord to wear and higher self esteem.

>> No.9522421

I love floral flavorings for desserts and teas. So delicate yet delicious.

Oh wow, didn't realize that was temporary but now I'm definitely going to try it out, thanks anon

This has been the best lifestyle thread in recent memory, thanks to all the anons who actually contributed and didn't just shitpost about ~~lolitas at heart~~

>> No.9522422

ETC put out some champagne glasses a little while ago. I own them but forgot where I have them stored.

>> No.9522490

Now that I know rose water in tea is a thing, I'm never going back.

What do you think of candied flowers? Is there any type of flower you favor?

>> No.9522507

Not trying to blog, but I posted >>9514930 almost a week ago. Since then, I have been following Gropey's advice and trying to do everything in life like a Jane Austin character. Taking the time to do things right has really done great things for my quality of life so far, and has even started to spread to my roommate. We're both setting the table for dinner, arranging the apartment for aesthetics, and generally feeling like ladies.If only I could get away with wearing cord every day, I would feel like a princess.

>> No.9522573

Anyone else a gothic lolita lifestyler?

I've been a fan of VK for over a decade, go to jrock concerts with my goth loli friends and do my own taxidermy. I do tend to wear more punky styles casually though.

For inspo I usually follow full on goth blogs and YT channels like "itsblackfriday" and "Dre Ronayne".

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I posted earlier in the thread but it's really nice to hear from someone else that appreciates a gothic lifestyle. Could you tell me a little bit about your taxidermy? I've never had the desire to do it myself as I'm much more interested in human anatomy, but I still really appreciate the skill involved when it's done well.

So I don't go to concerts and haven't been to a goth club in about 5 years. I do visit and take pictures of historical cemeteries very often, study forensic pathology, watch lots of films with darker themes, hoard morbid photography, have listened to goth for most of my life, and wear nothing but "corporate goth" to the office I work at.

Dress code keeps me from wearing gothic lolita for the vast majority of my week, but when I do have spare time it's all coffins and skulls. There's something about combining such blatant femininity with morbidity that appeals to me like nothing else does. Even when I'm dressing casually I'll throw on a pair of anatomically correct heart earrings or a long black skirt.

Needless to say I spend a gratuitous amount of time online getting inspo from just about anything with a macabre theme, from google images to my pinterest to here.

Here's one of the photos I've taken from one of the cemeteries I frequented in NY. It was so beautiful and well maintained, my terrible cell phone camera didn't do it any justice.

>> No.9522644

I've tried it as well, and it was terrible. The stuff they use to pickle it was impossible to rinse off completely, so I just ended up with oily, slimy water that didn't even taste like sakura.

>> No.9522688

I've had the F+F one and it was all right, you need to layer a thin petti over it to get a really good shape though.

My unpopular opinion is that cage skirts without pettis over them look awful, and I'm kind of disappointed so many girls in my comm have been buying them and talking up how good they are. A lot of the time when you're wearing a hoop skirt your dress will ride up or really obviously show the hoops from the back - obviously the wearer can't see it, but if you're walking behind them at a meet or in public you can. They also don't move as naturally or nicely as a petti, they're quite stiff. They look good in static photos which is why they're more popular, but I'd always prefer a ton of stacked pettis to a hoop skirt unless it was super hot.

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Les Anis de Flavigny are some of my favourite candies. They're aniseeds covered with layers of hardened sugar, and flavoured with various floral extracts. The little tins they come in are also super cute. I personally use them to hold my sewing pins.

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They had this candy at Colonial Williamsburg when I went. I loved the little decorative tins they had...but the flavor was overpowering for me.

If you like that black licorice type flavor though, I highly recommend Serendipitea's Black Velvet.

I was reading an interesting article on Turkish Delight and how must kids had some wild ideas of what it was because CSLewis didn't do much to describe it.
>What did you think Turkish Delight was? Have you tried it since and do you like it?
>What other obscure candy do you like?

I really love marzipan treats. My friend made these cute little carrots that went ontop of a cake she made out of colored marzipan.
(Pic Marzipan Piggies!)

>> No.9522956

Im happy to know its working for you. Keep it up.

I have a big bulk bag of these mixed. In middle eastern cuisine, the are called souaf and used to clean the pallet.

>Colonial Williamsburg
Hello! Come visit again sometime.

>turkish delight
Loukum is one of favourite candies

Goddamn. Im already fat....

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This cemetery looks really familiar...I'm from NY actually. My dad first got me interested and encouraged my fascination with morbid things. He's a bit of a history buff. Wherever we went on vacation, he always had to visit the local cemetery. haha

I'm really into the old horror movies and have been trying to integrate more books with dark themes into my reading. I'm about to start reading a book I dug up somewhere called "With Graciela To the Head-Hunters".

I usually stick to bones and prepare them for mounts. I prefer to use ones I find while on walks that are naturally deceased. This one is a squirrel a friend brought me to prepare. I cleaned it, soaked it in hydrogen peroxide for a few days to whiten it, and then gave it a nice coating of polyurethane spray to preserve it before mounting it. This method of soaking also works with teeth! I found the perfect size jars on ali express to make a cute jar of wisdom teeth. There used to be this great museum in Brooklyn for taxidermy! I'll attach some photos if you like.

I'm a student so I tend to dress kinda cozy for class. Fuzzy black SPR sweaters, and ripped leggings. I basically lived in these boots last winter semester: https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0482/6561/products/yrulasospikeyangle.jpg?v=1476393611. My work has a pretty strict dress code so I can only really get away with jewelry.

>> No.9522985

> Colonial Williamsburg
Oh do you work there?

>> No.9522986

I'm not sure why it uploaded sideways.

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Its purely an excuse to talk about amputations and dress in tailoree breeches all day.

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I believe the picture was from Green-Wood cemetery. Absolutely gorgeous, the lake there is breathtaking.
Your work is lovely! I would adore some of those other photos if you wouldn't mind sharing.
I feel your pain about strict work dress codes. The most I can get away with is a little jewelry too, or a pair of combat boots on casual Friday.

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He's a true Georgian gentleman.

>> No.9523034

I miss those muttonchops.... Sadly they are out of army regulations.

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Like one needs an excuse! Do you know Ron? He's my uncle. I'm super butt hurt about not being able to go to that Ball that they were putting on. I didn't hear about it until all the tickets were sold out.

>>To stay on topic >>
I've been making Victorian Puzzle Purses for favors for friends lately. Here's a decent tut.

>> No.9523047

Which Ron? Potts? There are thousands of us.

As for the ball, there will be more. We shot a few volleys from the balcony, but I didn't stick around to schmooze or dance.

>> No.9523050

Ron C. Plays G.W.

Im glad to hear that. Gives me time to actually source some nice fabric and make something appropriate... and save up for American Duchess shoes.

>> No.9523051

...I have known him for well over a decade. He's one of the founding members of my local SCA (medieval history) group, and my morris dancing idol.

He was actually one of my personal references when I applied over half a decade ago.

Yes, I know him :P

>> No.9523074

We need a new rococcouji and macaroni fashion thread.

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Recently made some perfume lockets. Does anyone have recipes for other beauty stuff they like?

>> No.9523913

You're supprisingly decent looking. You need to lose some weight though.

>> No.9523932

This. For someone with impeccable taste and class, it would make sense to put the same amount of care into your health as you do into your day-to-day hobbies and interests.

>> No.9524953

Im down for it if someone else makes it. I am almost done with my new silk suit.

I am working on it. I fluctuate a lot, but I need to get back into shape for the next ACL/IMBC season. Thankfully, on top of my cardio, weights and fencing practices, I work a very active job. I just gotta cut back on the rich foods .

I will never have the 6-pack of young Gropey, but I can get rid of the damn keg.

>> No.9524958

Good on you, Gropey. Remember, portion control is key! Eating less = weighing less!

>> No.9524970

Burn more calories than what you take in, etc etc.

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Here you go anon!

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>> No.9525957

First words out of my mouth when I saw these: "Wow, that's fucking awesome."
I hope one day to have a display that aesthetic for any of my hobbies.

>> No.9527301

New rococcouji thread >>9527298, if you please Mr. The Clown.

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