/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

[Anonymous No.9424794]

Misako is such a sweetheart I love her so much.

[Anonymous No.9424797]

Unpopular opinion time: I agree.

Don't understand the disrespect she gets.

[Anonymous No.9424818]

Hmmm I wonder how much tea party tickets will be. I haven't actually met her yet. Do you think there will be more Japanese guests or maybe the local designers?

[Anonymous No.9424829]

>>9424797
Honestly she's much sweeter (or at least try to look like it) than Maki and Asuka.
Went to three AP tea parties in Paris and I can tell you about several lolitas who had bad experiences with them. Including me.
Last time I went, I thought Chip and Dale weren't as unpleasant though, that's an improvement

[Anonymous No.9424833]

>>9424829
Spill da tea!

[Anonymous No.9424835]

>>9424829
I keep hearing about issues with Maki and Asuka. What exactly is wrong with them?

[Anonymous No.9424839]

>>9424794
>Misako
>in Chicago

Will someone take her on a tour of the South Side?

[Anonymous No.9424842]

Is she sponsored by BABY? She never wears AP or anything to these tea parties.

And yeah i love her too. Ive loved her for a decade i remember when i first saw her moving and speaking it was such a huge deal and i couldn't belive how cute she was.

[Anonymous No.9424851]

>>9424829
i can second this, she's a lot sweeter and more personable (or at least making an effort to seem that way) than maki, asuka, and risa.

[Anonymous No.9424856]

>>9424833
Several girls just noticed how Maki and Asuka, (especially Maki desu) don't seem give a shit about foreign lolitas or like they're judging them?

Secondly, the first lolita to arrive at the AP TP (i think it was like in 2012?) with two of her friends was greeted by Mrs Pretty,Maki and Asuka, but then Mrs. Pretty and Asuka just went inside the TP room (probably to be sure everything was ok before all the other lolitas would come),leaving Maki. Who waited and was on her phone the whole time she was with the three girls, she avoided any contact. The girl tried talking to her (in japanese, obviously), and she just completely ignored her. Even if she was tired/shy that was pretty rude to downright ignore her.

Sometimes, I felt like they didn't even want to be there? Their smiles felt forced/fake and it was unpleasant.

There's also a story of Maki trying to hide Hildekitten's face on the group pic (in 2012). I mean, she's not really pretty and her outfit was shit but still.

To finish this blogpost I'm thinking that maybe they're just annoyed to be the brand's image/attend so many TPs and are tired to be enthusiastic all the time? Maybe they're scared/shy because of the language barrier? But that was still kinda shitty.

[Anonymous No.9424863]

>>9424856
What's that picture with Hildekitten they were trying to hide?

[Anonymous No.9424865]

>>9424856
Idk, but it was a group pic apparently.
And also a girl wrote (back then) on a blogpost on her LJ that she felt disdain and fake vibes from Maki.
Maybe we're wrong,but heh.

[Anonymous No.9424866]

>>9424856
Didn't they also make comments on dress lengths?

[Anonymous No.9424882]

From my own personal experience with Maki and Asuka (visiting the Paris store and Tea Party since a few years), Asuka is always the kinda "grumpy" one, always running around in the store to make everything look nice, never smiling (often not even in pictures), not really motivated to take pcitures and interact. While Maki is the one greeting costumers, happily takes pictures and smiles. Even at the Tea Parties Asuka was more doing organizing stuff and tried not to get to involved with the guests, while Maki was always running around, taking pictures with the guests and was generally more interacting. However in 2015 it was a little less, and in 2016 at the Tea Party it was basically non-existend. I think they were extremely busy with the fashion show, but they didn't even came out from the back room, they only came out to annonce some of the program and to greet some business people (?) who were at the Tea Party and giving them a gift (there were 2 older men and one older lady). However Ms. Honda was still always running around taking bazillions of pictures, as well as some other staff with short hair (don't know who she is though)

[Anonymous No.9424905]

>>9424856
There is a story about them outright saying that fat or ugly girls shouldn't wear angelic pretty, because the brands image is supposed to be cute princesses.

[Anonymous No.9424908]

>>9424797
i'm not up to date. does she get disrespect? i thought everyone loved her.

[Anonymous No.9424909]

>>9424905
I mean I'd be pissed if I made clothes just to see fatties bursting out the zippers

[Anonymous No.9424915]

i've only met asuka and she wasn't mean really, just a busybody. i think the language barrier plays a really big part of it. she addressed us directly in japanese and just kind of assumed that everybody knew what she was talking about. not a problem for me, but probably an issue for a lot of other people. there were no pleasantries, her speaking is very direct while still being pretty polite. i have a feeling she feels a lot of pressure to get everything done so she doesn't have enough time to fraternize

>>9424905
pls post caps, not doubting you but it's too interesting not to have the story

>>9424908
gulls find reasons to hate her for some reason. i love her, she's been in the game for so long and she does her job

[Anonymous No.9424955]

>>9424909
Yeah, but saying it to a fatties face?

[Anonymous No.9424963]

>>9424915
I'm trying to find the blog entry.

[Anonymous No.9424970]

>>9424856
>>9424905
idk man I've met both us them and they were perfectly nice, even to a fat ugly gaijin like me. it wasn't at a huge event though, so maybe they were less stressed

[Anonymous No.9425034]

I've never met M&A so I can't speak on them but I have met Misako. She is a complete sweetheart. She seems really genuine and shows her passion for lolita. She was so friendly and kind to everyone, no matter how they dressed. I was a fan of her before but now I admire her so much more.

[Anonymous No.9425045]

>>9424909
as long as you're making money who cares? i've made dresses for fatties before, I watch my seams slowly pushed to their limits, the shirring i painstakingly added is stretched to the point of no return, my print is warped across the chasm of their boobloaf, i watch as my beautiful dress is destroyed before my very eyes while counting all the money I made

[Anonymous No.9425059]

>>9424818
If I remember correctly, it's $50 a ticket.

[Anonymous No.9425218]

>>9425059

Hmmm APril 20 wonder what time.

[Anonymous No.9425345]

>>9424839
kek.

imo, I'd feel weird if she went around Chinatown because it's kind of grody compared to other parts of the city. I do hope they'll take her around Chicago and do some cutesy touristy things.

Honestly, I would love to have a private tea event with her and the comm at someplace super nice like the Drake - just someplace other than the con space - like some cities have done with they've invited brand guests, but that's just a pipe dream.

[Anonymous No.9425357]

>>9424909

paying customers you dislike > no customers at all. In a niche industry like this, it's dumb ad fuck to be rude to people.

[Anonymous No.9425384]

I liked Misako before the AM drama.

[Anonymous No.9425387]

>>9424905
If true, I agree with them.

[Anonymous No.9425451]

>>9424835
I've been told by someone who knows Maki on a more personal level that she gets really pissy when she doesn't get her way.

[Anonymous No.9425461]

>>9424797
Because it's cool to be contrary. She's popular and cute and proper, so fuk dat prissy bitch kek I'll swear and drink in my lolita if I want to she can't tell me what to do!!!!1
Most people I've met who actively dislike Misako are anti-brand ("Taobao and Bodyline are just as good, stupid elitists") and jelly of anyone who can afford and fit into it. A cute petite lady who gets paid to model burando and travel across the world to promote it is everything they secretly want to be, but can't.

[Anonymous No.9425522]

>>9425384
Me too. Looks like she's still hanging with Shop in Wonderland too: https://twitter.com/bible_staff/status/850085496965533696

[Anonymous No.9425552]

>>9424851
It could be the language and culture barrier but Risa made no attempt to talk to guests at the AP TP in San Francisco. She was buried on her phone or back stage alot. When she was by guests she didn't talk much even when some of us approached her

[Anonymous No.9425555]

>>9425384
Does she know he's a scammer tough? I thought she was only told about the Facebook messages to Choke etc.

[Anonymous No.9425557]

>>9425552
Maybe she's really shy or doesn't consider it as part of her job? I've never met her but I've met a few other Japanese guests and artists and some of them really try to have fun with fans, like Akira and Misako.

[Anonymous No.9425560]

Think most of this thread who thinks japanese guests are "unfriendly" don't get that A. English is their second language, fluency levels differ B. these events are part of their job - they're working. There's stuff behind the scenes you aren't seeing, business-wise, and possibly even in their personal lives.

>>9425552
pretty sure Risa knows very little English

>>9424905
eh, gonna need source. sounds like when people paraded misako as saying "no black people allowed in lolita" when she just meant "gyaru style tanning in lolita looks kinda weird"

[Anonymous No.9425563]

>>9425560
I don't think those excuses are reasonable if your main job is to meet fans

[Anonymous No.9425573]

>>9424842
I've seen a handful of photos of her wearing AP before, but I only have this (old?) one of her wearing Wonder Cookie.

[Anonymous No.9425594]

>>9425563
It's not, though. They're designers and models. The only one whose "job" is to meet fans is Misako as Kawaii Ambassador, and she does that just fine.

[Anonymous No.9425598]

>>9425555
She knows. She was warned about the scams by a third party before she even entered into a contract with him. Honestly she's just in it for the money, trying to find a new way to stay relevant once her modelling career tanked. And I fucking hate her stupid princess LARPer image. Like bitch you don't really act or sound like that. She's fake as hell. You can be nice without a dumb high pitched voice and fake princess attitude.

[Anonymous No.9425599]

>>9425598
I can hear the blood vessel popping

[Anonymous No.9425605]

>>9425594
When you invite Akira or Risa to an international event, is it only to model? Is that really worth the price when you can get volunteers? Why would they be grumpy and stressed if they only have to model?

[Anonymous No.9425609]

>>9425598
>She was warned about the scams by a third party before she even entered into a contract with him
Source?

[Anonymous No.9425619]

>>9425345
>Honestly, I would love to have a private tea event with her and the comm at someplace super nice like the Drake

Same here. I feel the event at AM won't be as intimate with the Chicago Comm compared to her other events in the States. You'll have lolitas from other parts of the country and some have already seen her too many times. I wished there was a way that Chicago and Milwaukee got first dibs on the tea party tickets and then release to the general public ~24 hours later.

[Anonymous No.9425643]

>>9425563
Maki and Asuka aren't really models, they're brand representatives as well as in-house designers. Their "main job" isn't meeting fans, it's to design new AP prints/merchandise. From other's experiences, it doesn't seem like their English is all that great, either.

>>9425605
Akira's grasp of english is pretty decent (have ran into her at parties and she understood enough of what I said). Risa knows barely any. Of course Akira is gonna seem more friendly in comparison. Akira also had a dedicated translator with them - did Risa?

idk I think you guys are expecting a lot from people who are at events specifically to work, and have a basic understanding of English at best. Have a bit more empathy.

[Anonymous No.9425672]

I was just at the Shop in Wonderland event yesterday and met her as well as Akira, Midori, and some others including a new model, forgot her name. She was reeeally cute, and we were communicating with her by passing a phone back and forth with google translate, it was pretty funny

[Anonymous No.9425679]

>>9425643
I would say their job is also to promote Angelic Pretty, or why are they always announced as special guests at AP Tea Parties and also always come to international events for selling and Tea Parties?
Their english is not really good, Maki can do easy conversations but Asuka ony a few words (but at least they try)

Most Lolitas I know (including me) don't really like Misako because she is always acting so distant, always have the exact same face / smile, not really showing any enthusiasm, not even trying to speak / learn english.

I agree that after the x-th Tea Party it will become less exciting and more of a job for you, so I'm not mad if Misako etc. aren't super involved with all the guests, but I wish they would try to hide their attitude, because for many people it's still a special moment to meet them.

RinRin Doll e.g. is really interacting with everyone and is still super happy to meet each single guest and tries to talk with everyone.

[Anonymous No.9425687]

>>9425679
>RinRin Doll
I think it's easier for her to be friendly since she's fluent in English and from the US.

[Anonymous No.9425691]

>>9425679
To be fair it's not a good comparison point because RinRin is western so it's far easier for her. She was scouted for one of AP's first fashion shows in the US way back when (2008? 2009?) and stuck around with them since.

[Anonymous No.9425704]

>>9425598

That's now how shit works. For one, Misako knows not too much English even though she acts like she does (she really tries), so unless someone's spoken to her about it at length in Japanese, she's not gonna care or think it's a big deal. One or two "third parties" saying someone is scamming when they've paid you just fine every year means you're not gonna believe the shit they're saying. It's also her job to go to events she's invited to; it's not like she gets invited to enough in each country to get to be picky about them.

[Anonymous No.9425710]

>>9425598
I don't care if someone is just in it for the money.
Making a few sacrifices to make a living isn't a crime anon. Every man and his dog knows about the Leighs, She is not deceiving people into supporting their shop if everyone knows they are shitty. Besides, have you ever considered that she is still coming to their events in spite of them? Get free accom, trip overseas, TP where you are the guest of honour, have fun. go to a convention and meet your fans who appreciate you and think you are great for the low low price of a bit of lip service. If this is selling out then sign me up. Misako is great and if she puts up with some douches for the sake of her fans I have even more respect for her.
>thank you for your sacrifice Misako

[Anonymous No.9425735]

>>9425384
>>9425522
>>9425555


If you don't like Misako, that's cool.

What irks me about ppl hating Misako for AM drama is that it's highly hypocritical given the fact Midori, Akira and Yui all still go to AM too. They all have been around the Leighs and have all been mistreated I pressume. They are probably still going cause they get paid and they have managers who tell them to go.

Triple Fortune, Meta, Putumayo and Boz designers are there too. All of these individuals have went several time to AM.

Even if these individuals go, there will still be fashion icons and designers who will go in there place.

[Anonymous No.9425743]

>>9425560
I haven't met Risa but I've met a lot of Japanese guests over the years (music and fashion related). There've been guests who looked up a couple of sentences, wrote them down and read them out loud to communicate with their fans, and even if it's a shitty translation and they didn't learn it by heart, they get so much love for it. Even just smiling and waving at fans makes them super happy. Nobody expects Japanese guests to have a conversation with them.

[Anonymous No.9425758]

>>9425735
I don't dislike Misako, I'm actually trying to continue liking her despite all this, and I feel the same for the other models, brands and personnel (Kawaii Pateen?) in this scenario. I just can't help but cringe when I see them all still associating with this con and the scum that run it.

[Anonymous No.9425770]

>>9425758
My excuse to still like Misako is that we really don't know how much she knows about the scamming, if she knows. There was a petition translated to Japanese but it was about the fb sexual harassment messages and it didn't look trustworthy. John is really good at manipulation. If he hasn't changed his scamming ways, Misako will learn the hard way.

Can we move discussion about other people to the general and make this a Misako thread again? Or make a thread to discuss Japanese guests?

[Anonymous No.9425797]

>>9425598
>just in it for the money
So fucking what? It's her job of course she's in it for the money. I'm so fucking sick of hearing this bs. Real life isn't a movie where everyone is doing what they do because they love it and it's what they're meant to do, everyone needs a paycheck at the end of the week. Get the fuck off your high horse, you just sound like a bitter, jealous bitch.

[Anonymous No.9425819]

>>9425797
And let's be real, if anyone is wearing lolita for the money, it would be way more lucrative to switch to cosplay

[Anonymous No.9426119]

>>9425687
>>9425691
You have a good point, I didn't thought about this when writing the comment. However even if they don't have the language skills, some other models / designers at least try to say a nice word and act very happy when you ask for a photo instead of "I don't really want to but I have to say yes" (for example the guests at last year's SFE event like Ayumi, Kimura U, JetJ desingers)

[Anonymous No.9426120]

>>9425679
>I would say their job is also to promote Angelic Pretty
hence why I said "being a brand representative"

And yeah RinRin lived in California for awhile before moving to Japan to teach/model, so of course her English is good, and knows what to expect from western fans/western audience.

>>9425743
But ones who are predominantly models? I mean Risa isn't even strictly a lolita model. Maybe she didn't expect to have such a big western fanbase and was unprepared to deal? Nerves, or tired, language barrier, etc.? giving them the benefit of the doubt until they actively snub people on multiple accounts.

[Anonymous No.9426164]

>>9425552
oh hey, i was there too and i had the same experience! i can speak japanese and i told her i admired her work and she just kind of nodded her head and went back on her phone

i mean there's the possibility that she's shy, but it was disappointing

[Anonymous No.9426169]

This is a Misako thread now

[Anonymous No.9426172]

>>9426169
She's too cute

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[Anonymous No.9426182]

>>9426175
>sticks m legy out really far

[Anonymous No.9426185]

>>9426172
misako clean your mirror wtf

[Anonymous No.9426187]

>>9426182
she's told sometimes to do a doll-like pose. she's even said that lolita like their bangs to cover their eyebrows because it means they show less emotions which is doll-like.

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[Anonymous No.9426194]

I heard red is considered a neutral colour in jpn
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[Anonymous No.9426210]

with kaya and hizaki
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[Anonymous No.9426216]

best donut print ever desu
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[Anonymous No.9426241]

tfw you can't wear Misako's PJs
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[Anonymous No.9426242]

goodnight
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>>9426194
Doesn't matter, girl on the left is triggering my color autism

[Anonymous No.9426445]

>>9425619

I've been to Midwest a couple of times and I don't recall meeting a lolita a who wasn't from Illinois or the surrounding states. I'm hoping that it stays that way since we rarely get opportunities like this. This is practically our Rufflecon. Some of the AMW staff are lolitas, so I'm sure they'll put priority for the members in the area comms. I don't think they lurk here, so it's probably best to shoot them an email.

>>9424842
probably something to ask the staff about or it's TBA until tickets go on sale. I don't care much about Baby these days, but I'm always happy (to purchase something) when they've visited.

Anywho. I hope they'll have more available seats for this year's tea party than when they had Baby in the past. I also hope they've found a more reliable translator.


When you mentioned South Side, I had a silly thought of taking Misako out for Harold's, but then I remembered that they describe themselves as a no-frills restaurant.

>which makes it funnier

You know, the South Shore cultural center would be a gorgeous meetup space. I would love to have a Midwest Rufflecon/Chicago Paradiso type event there someday - featuring a brand and model guests, a fashion show, photo ops, raffles, light entertainment, a vendor hall, and obligatory tea party. I'm sure there's room for Chicago and surrounding comms to get together, and still have room for normies to host their weddings. I know that we have the mega meet and I'm thankful for that, but a girl can dream right?

[Anonymous No.9426452]

>>9424842
>Is she sponsored by BABY? She never wears AP or anything to these tea parties.

I think AMW has been BTSSBout after coming for 2 years in a row. Meta maybe?

>>9426445
>I had a silly thought of taking Misako out for Harold's

There are better places than Harold's. Giordano's, Portillo's, Harry Caray's, and Billy Goat Cafe would be good places for Misako. Of course Misako will want to see Sue at the Field Museum and the Home Alone House.

[Anonymous No.9426490]

>>9426452
I know. I was joking. I thought that was obvious.

Other anon was being ironic about taking her to the South Side which is notorious for its crime rate; I was joking about the popular eatery from that area because of it's "no-frills" description.
Don't shit on Harold's though. There's a bunch of those in gentrified neighborhoods for a reason.

I love quintessential Chicago chains and the thought of her trying to wrap her mind around a Chicago styled dog would be adorable, but let's be real, Misako deserves to be treated at Alinea's.

So, I asked a staff member and they said that she's just there to promote herself and not representing a brand guest. A tea party is TBD, depending on her and the translator's schedule (and how much energy they have). They'd like to set up a private event after the con, but of course, that's just depending on time, energy, and resources. Flying a guest in is expensive and time intensive, so I wish them the best of luck, and hope that Misako gets to see the city properly rather than be stuck out in the O'Hare area. I think that the comm should help out though. I'm sure they'd be happy to tote her around the best neighborhoods.

[Anonymous No.9426492]

Ugh, meant to sage for being slightly off-topic. Here's a Misako reaction image.

[Anonymous No.9426730]

>>9424794
I've met her several times. Every time she gives me the same impression as if she was just acting like the persona she created to become the kawaii ambassador she is, but in reality she is very different. But hey, lots of japanese people are like that, always having like a mask in public and hide their real self.

[Anonymous No.9426788]

>>9426164
I was disappointed too! Myself and some other girls tried interacting. Maki was way more social even tho she doesn't know alot of English. Risa was stand offish at the meet n greet too, she also only said hello and nodded. AP should not bring her to America for events if that is how she acts.

[Anonymous No.9426826]

>>9426210
What's that scary thing on the right?

[Anonymous No.9426828]

>>9426216
Sauce on those tights?

[Anonymous No.9426864]

>>9426826
What are you talking about?

[Anonymous No.9427044]

>>9426730
why so racist, which japanese person hurt you

[Anonymous No.9427196]

>>9425034
>kind and friendly to everyone, no matter how they dressed
you're completely right anon. shes got some patience and grace, probably why she makes such a good nurse

[Anonymous No.9427221]

>>9424794
To be honest, I judge her because she continues to support the Leighs. She may be a sweet person (I've met her several times), but she really looses ethical points by attending their shit con every year.

[Anonymous No.9427406]

>>9426445
>I don't recall meeting a lolita a who wasn't from Illinois or the surrounding states.
Lots Illinois/midwest con-lolitas do come to Midwest, but people who are active in the Chicago and Milwaukee comm I hope get first dibs.

[Anonymous No.9427431]

>>9427196
this picture seriously disgusts me

[Anonymous No.9428408]

Anyone met her at AM?

[Anonymous No.9428693]

>>9428408
I have multiple times. This year however she seemed a little unhappy. Barely smiling at all...she may just attend because she has too because it was obvious she didn't want to be there.

[Anonymous No.9428709]

>>9426445
Sorry, I'm coming from a bit aways.
I was planning to go before Misako was announced though

[[e-mail] No.9428753]

>>9428693
Maybe she wanted to be at Tekko with Kimura.

[Anonymous No.9429192]

She looked so good

[Anonymous No.9429705]

>>9426445
Honestly, booking a decent place in chicago in the summer is really expensive because of summer weddings. I know that there were a few lolitas from Pennsylvania who came for BTSSB, but I'm guessing they won't attend this year since they had a really good jfashion lineup at Tekko this year and the Rosemont area of Anime Midwest is a dead zone. I would die laughing if Misako went to the indoor skydiving place nearby. I have a feeling that she would want to see the Art Institute too!

[Anonymous No.9429744]

>>9429705
Oh I know. That's why the mega meet have been on Sundays, and why I stated that it's, unfortunately, a pipe dream. Booking any venue between May through September is a pain in general.

Like I wrote earlier, some of the con staff are interested and willing to take Misako and her translator around the city, depending on their guest's energy. And I hope it all works out. I'd hate to fly into a city I've never been to and not get to explore it because of work or whatever.

Rosemont isn't as much of a deadzone as it used to be, but I'd still rather her visit Chicago proper. I think she'd be charmed by Sugar Factory at least, and I'd love for the comm to take her out for drinks there at some point during the con.