Artist Alley: General Store

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Artist Alley: General Store Corky-Lunn !CorkyloMxc Tue Dec 20 09:48:43 2016 No.9294367 [Reply] [Original]

old thread: >>9283525

>NEW! Frequently Asked Questions
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1PpDyjw2LDxbupdvHMNsBUOBVB66Lzwf44RM1You1GDA/edit?usp=sharing
>Resources
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>Taobao/Alibaba services (broken link)
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>Artist Spreadsheet
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>How to order from Vograce (now with video on how to set up files)
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>Convention List (WIP)
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Anonymous Tue Dec 20 09:57:36 2016 No.9294377

>>9294167
Depends on the guest. Some guests i just suck it up, some i put a sign up saying i'm gone until X time bye. A couple hundred bucks (if even because sometimes people do just come back) is nothing if the guest is for example usually never goes to cons and may never return and this might be the only chance to meet them / get an autograph

Pixel !liV7ZvK9aE Wed Dec 21 01:13:51 2016 No.9295100
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Looks like A-kon is switching to a full jury this year. Hopefully they'll be clear about what their criteria is; they've always been damn organized and open in the past.

Anonymous Wed Dec 21 05:32:13 2016 No.9295219

I've had a few years of experience doing anime oriented cons, but next year will be my first comic con artist alley. I'm wondering if any of you guys here have some insight on the customer base, if it's any different in spending trends, prices, items offered, etc? From just guessing I would assume there is some overlap between the two crowds.

Pixel !liV7ZvK9aE Wed Dec 21 12:56:24 2016 No.9295498

>>9295219
Comicons are, in general, going to have a much older fan base and are much more willing to spend on higher pricetags than Anime con attendees. A lot fewer $1-$5 sales, a lot more big ticket items. Of course, that generally comes with the understanding that you have a lot more (often professional) competition, and that a smaller percentage of people will be interested in what you have to offer if you're anime-focused.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 13:03:28 2016 No.9295505 >>9295219 Yeah they buy more original art/ western based fanart.

Anonymous Wed Dec 21 14:08:11 2016 No.9295555

>>9295498
>>9295505
That's good to hear, I actually have quite a bit of original art and a small book planned of my work that I was going to make anyway. Mostly ink drawings. I'm not too much into most western comic fandoms, but I think if I cater to the monster/sci-fi/horror crowd it could work.

Would you price things higher? At anime cons I do 1 for $15 and 2 for $20 for 11x17 prints, just packaged in plastic sleeves without backing.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 14:20:23 2016 No.9295568 >tfw when someone on AANI complains about speed cameras by post office >they live in Maryland the land of speed cameras

Anonymous Wed Dec 21 16:14:36 2016 No.9295661

>>9295068

I'm not a Texan but it is indeed Texas we're talking about...

>>9295100

I really hope their jury is better than Fanime's. Also, I'm signed up for their mailing list but I didn't get this. Fuck. Are they only giving out signup info on the mailing list this year?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 17:40:39 2016 No.9295735 >>9295219 Instead of selling to pre-teen girls, you'll be selling to 30 year old men.

Anonymous Wed Dec 21 18:58:30 2016 No.9295794

guys, I'm a moron and need advice.

I've done single-sided charms but just did double for the first time. The vendor asked me which image I wanted flipped, so I told them I wanted the back side flipped. The preview picture they showed me had all of the back images flipped and the front images normal, so I thought everything was fine.

All my charms came in today with the front image flipped and not the back, so I have a bunch of charms of characters with messed up hairstyles and outfits, since it's all backwards. Is this my fault or the vendor's? Is there something I'm not understanding about double-sided charms?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 19:12:08 2016 No.9295803 >>9295794 Can you post the preview picture vs the charms you got? What vendor are you using also?

Anonymous Wed Dec 21 19:33:27 2016 No.9295821
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>>9295803

Vograce! All the other vendors state from the start they'll automatically flip the front side, so it would be no question with them how I should set up my files/which side gets flipped. But since Vograce specifically asked me which side I wanted flipped, and then flipped the opposite...

It ended up being something like this: <-

Anonymous Wed Dec 21 22:52:26 2016 No.9296005

>>9295821

I'm kinda nervous that this happens to me with Vograce. I sent the files with the back side mirrored to match the lines of the front (which was not mirrored) and Vicky sent me the outlines with the back image flipped to how it should be printed, so I hope they will come printed right... Some of mine have text so it will suck if they come out backwards.

Anonymous Thu Dec 22 01:28:59 2016 No.9296136

>>9295661

I had a feeling. This might be a good con for me to table at even if I have to take serious time away from the table because it looks like people will be coming in based on the guests. I do hope this con seriously prepares for this potential influx though.

>>9295100

I'm curious what their criteria is. I don't feel my art is bad but full juries are never an issue of "is your art good" right? It's more about the curated style they want? I'm nervous now but at least I don't have to play the game of "submit in 2 seconds or get waitlisted." My heart can't take that.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 22 11:25:09 2016 No.9296465 >>9296005 I just always send the artwork as drawn, no mirroring, and everything works out fine. I go through coco though.

Anonymous Thu Dec 22 11:43:53 2016 No.9296502

>>9295821
Yea I actually just realized that they didn't follow any pattern at all (printing left side of a two sided design as the "front") on my batch of like 7 designs. Seems like it's just whatever they feel like.

You could try drawing a diagram to show how the layers would print maybe?

Anonymous Thu Dec 22 12:59:50 2016 No.9296560

>>9296465
I did the same but had the wrong side flipped. I just want to know if there's any way to make sure that the correct side gets flipped with them because it really sucks to have a ton of charms I can't sell now b/c the characters are all inaccurate. Do you guys just not use Vograce for charms where it would matter how the flipped image looks, since it seems like there's no way to control which way they'll do it?

>>9296502
I think I will try this next time or stick to only using them for 1-sided and using a more reliable company for 2-sided!

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 22 17:36:21 2016 No.9296762 >>9296560 How many did you get made? I would contact them if it was a decent amount and ask them to remake it for a lower cost or something.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 22 20:55:56 2016 No.9296958 How come avnp gets to table at fanime again even though they broke the rules and let tim share with her fanime rigged as fuck

Anonymous Fri Dec 23 13:41:10 2016 No.9297633

>>9296958

Because Fanime is a joke and their jury is complete bullshit? Honestly, anyone who expects anything they do to make sense at this point is crazy. It sucks that the congoers are so great because it's more than Fanime deserves given how they fuck up everything (not just AA).

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 23 17:42:20 2016 No.9297835 Did anyone see the email fanime sent out to the waitlist crew? Pretty fucked up to do it right before Christmas, thanks for fucking everyone in the ass again Fanime

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 23 17:57:09 2016 No.9297849 >>9297835 what did your email say? i got one saying i'm at the top of the waitlist and i'll know if i got in or not by april. i assume they sent that to everyone though

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 23 18:05:29 2016 No.9297857 >>9297849 they literally sent everyone else an email basically saying if you didn't get an email saying you were at the top of the list you probably aren't getting in, thanks

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 23 18:28:27 2016 No.9297879 >>9297857 wow i guess it's smart to let people know not to hold their breath, but usually you apply some tact to that kind of thing

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 23 18:55:23 2016 No.9297900 >>9297633 Agree with this. The only reason to recommend Fanime to anyone at this point is because their AA-buying crowd is seriously way better than all the other west coast conventions I've been at.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 23 19:08:22 2016 No.9297908 File: 33 KB, 953x237, Waitlist.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] This is the e-mail everyone else got. I get that these are volunteers, but that doesn't exactly read as professional to me. =\

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 23 19:26:12 2016 No.9297919 >>9297908 > why's everyone salty about this? I would rather have an email letting me know I have a low possibility about getting in vs leading me on. we are all adults here, no need to get our panties in a bunch cause they were blunt about it.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 23 19:36:39 2016 No.9297923 >>9297908 This really doesn't sound that bad to me.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 23 19:36:41 2016 No.9297924 >>9297908 It seems reasonable to me. Maybe you're just a little too sensitive anon.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 23 19:44:39 2016 No.9297930 >>9297919 why did you greentext >>9297923 >>9297924 i kind of agree. it's hard not to take it as an unnecessary jab, but it's better than them letting everyone think they still have a chance when they know they don't really.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 23 19:54:15 2016 No.9297933 >>9297919 why did you greentext

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 23 20:14:41 2016 No.9297941 >post office is closed on Monday & no mail delivery >charms I ordered still haven't shipped I-it's not like I need them for a con next weekend...

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 23 20:29:42 2016 No.9297953 >>9297908 What's wrong with this exactly? If you're that far on the waitlist then you aren't going to get in. The fact that they're letting you know is actually very professional of them

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 23 20:37:23 2016 No.9297957 >>9297849 What does your email look like

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MyFebronia !/dEvARTwA6 Fri Dec 23 21:21:03 2016 No.9297993
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Loving this thermal label printer, I should have got one ages ago. Going to make shipping shit out from etsy so much easier. Def recommend Dymo 4XL

Anonymous Fri Dec 23 21:23:55 2016 No.9297995

>>9297919
>>9297923
>>9297924
>>9297930
Not that anon, but it's shitty and misleading to title the email "Waitlist Position" because that implies you'll be getting your waitlist position/number in the email. And it's just nitpicking on my part but the wrong grammar is what makes it seem un-proofread/last minute and unprofessional to me. I like knowing my chances beforehand but this is just kind of poorly done.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 23 21:53:31 2016 No.9298010 >>9297908 The contents of the e-mail are OK, but titling it "Waitlist Position" is shitty because it implies you HAVE a position on the waitlist, when the actual e-mail is just "you're shit outta luck."

Anonymous Fri Dec 23 22:01:27 2016 No.9298016

>>9297993
I just got one from the sale recently but mine keeps printing wrong.. like the very top portion of the label just doesn't print? so for example the top stroke of the letter "F" in first class is almost all gone, despite there being enough space on the label for it to have printed on there. wasted like 6 labels trying to figure it out but ahh..

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 23 22:07:45 2016 No.9298018 Fanime is that abusive ex that gaslights you all the time

>>	MyFebronia !/dEvARTwA6 Fri Dec 23 22:15:40 2016 No.9298026 >>9298016 Try to print a test label using the software anon, use a full black and white image to test with.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 23 22:31:25 2016 No.9298037 >>9298026 hm i see on the program that i can't move anything into the top most area, so it must be printing the labels too high on the page for some reason or another. womp womp well at least i have a direction for investigation now

>>	MyFebronia !/dEvARTwA6 Fri Dec 23 22:48:03 2016 No.9298046 File: 19 KB, 314x505, 7aaa81dadb48066533904c5f100ce9cc.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9298037 Is it possible you may have the wrong size selected for printout?

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 23 23:43:23 2016 No.9298091 >>9298046 nope that is the same set up i'm using! i'll fudge around with it later, thank you for helping and suggesting i use their program though :)

Anonymous Fri Dec 23 23:47:13 2016 No.9298093
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I ordered some of these stars as add-ons for charms, they were linked in an older thread.

Just wanted to warn people that they break really easily. I gave a charm to a friend and he said his star snapped off in the first 5 minutes. I'm still looking for good stars.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 23 23:51:29 2016 No.9298101 >>9298093 Well shoot. I put in an order for the same charms from another seller. I guess they'll have to be reinforced around the hole somehow or used differently. Thankfully it was only a $1.50 order.

Anonymous Sat Dec 24 00:01:02 2016 No.9298111

>>9298101
Yea, they ended up looking really cute, sucks that there's not enough material around the hole to be sturdy. There's 12mm star charms on delishbeads for a reasonable price, going to try them this time. I can post a review when I get them if anyone wants that.

>>	MyFebronia !/dEvARTwA6 Sat Dec 24 00:15:16 2016 No.9298121 >>9298091 You should prob return that asap if you can.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 24 00:22:34 2016 No.9298127 whats the best way to ask out my artist senpai in AA? i dont want to make things awkward ~_~

Anonymous Sat Dec 24 00:57:23 2016 No.9298157
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>>9298111
Yeah. the loop on the delishbead ones look stronger.

Also, what are people's thoughts on these? They're a minimum of 500. Might be worth checking out if people were splitting the order. I'd be worried that the little loop was too thin though.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 24 05:10:28 2016 No.9298261 >>9298127 kill yourself

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 24 09:09:17 2016 No.9298358 >>9297908 Next year I'm going to apply with a portfolio of shiny desu ":3" face fanart and probably get in.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 24 16:02:40 2016 No.9298527 >>9298358 Don't forget to apply with nothing but things like Overwatch and Voltron fanart as well, even though that has nothing to do with anime, 'cause the jury seemed to love that shit this year too.

Anonymous Sat Dec 24 22:37:36 2016 No.9298795

>>9298527
>Voltron
>Not anime/anime-inspired

Do you know what the original source material is? You have a point for Overwatch but you can't complain about things being popular even if they're not exactly kawaii uguu shit. Overseas artists are fine with Western stuff in their artist alleys, not sure why we need to suddenly care.

Anonymous Sun Dec 25 01:10:42 2016 No.9298865

>>9298795

I personally don't care about mixing comics/western stuff and anime in comic/anime cons. Fanime's judging just says they will give more points/prioritize things that are obviously Japanese/anime over Western things, but the results certainly don't reflect that. It's another jab at Fanime's laughable jury process, not at Western material or Western fanartists, so calm your tits.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 25 01:11:37 2016 No.9298866 >>9298795 Because some Western artists want a distinct line between their precious anime and those inferior western cartoons

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 25 15:53:05 2016 No.9299228 Weird question - for charms, do you create the exact canvas size for the charm (i.e. 2" x 2", 300 dpi) or do you draw on a bigger canvas and then shrink down?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 25 15:54:46 2016 No.9299229 Is it only with opaque charms you get free samples from vograce? Vicky is saying $20 +shipping to me and i thought it was shipping only

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 25 15:56:42 2016 No.9299230 >>9299228 I work as large as possible and scale down

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 25 16:30:37 2016 No.9299241 >>9299230 Is it better to do so?

Anonymous Sun Dec 25 17:00:49 2016 No.9299269

>>9299228
I work just slightly larger than the final product. (so like 4" x 4" if it's a 2" charm) mostly just so that I don't end up zooming in so much and getting caught up in details that aren't going to be noticeable. I was also worried that it might compress weirdly if I worked on a canvas too large but I don't have any actual evidence of that.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 02:56:36 2016 No.9299679 >>9299228 I work huge basically the same size as prints in case something sticks and I want to make it as stickers/prints later and then I resize for charms, I have personally never seen any negative results due to doing it this way.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 04:10:59 2016 No.9299719 >>9299241 yes, always

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 11:47:09 2016 No.9299896 I'm fairly new to AA so I'm not in the loop with any of the drama but I'm wondering what the deal is with asherbee? I see people here complaining about them but I haven't seen anything elsewhere about it

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 12:53:17 2016 No.9299945 >>9299896 What drama? I know someone didn't like her rabbit plush proto a few threads ago, but otherwise I never hear anything about her

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 15:01:53 2016 No.9300099 >>9299896 Wait, asherbee does AA now?! Y'all best check the archives because she's a huge lolcow.

Anonymous Mon Dec 26 15:05:33 2016 No.9300105 [DELETED]

>>9299896
She has a whole ED page about her antics.
General summary:
>she has no concept of what "good" means
>she'd pressure her friends to commission cosplays from her. again, god awful in terms of quality
>she mostly runs off her parents' money so she's not really concerned with wasting it on shitty product

Not sure if she does AA though, unless you just want to talk about her from an artist standpoint

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 15:06:24 2016 No.9300107 >>9300099 Not that cosplat lolcow asherbee. I'm pretty sure they mean this one. http://asher-bee.deviantart.com

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 15:35:17 2016 No.9300146 >>9300107 Oh dear It might be too late to change her brand from that name, then

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 16:24:47 2016 No.9300180 >>9300107 Wow, yeah, that's a rather unfortunate name she picked. I know AA and cosplay circles don't cross necessarily, but if I hear asherbee I think of the lolcow. It'd be like if someone went by PT's name or something.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 16:51:59 2016 No.9300207 >>9297908 If you want to talk about unprofessional, the title to one of the AA e-mails from ALA is "ALA2017 Artist Alley - Pubs Info Reminder!!!!1!!!eleven!!!11!!!!ONE!!"

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 18:34:42 2016 No.9300298 >>9300099 >>9300107 >>9300180 Ah I see! My mistake. That is really unfortunate. I saw the names and I remembered seeing some posts here about her but I had no idea it wasn't the same person

Anonymous Tue Dec 27 00:51:24 2016 No.9300579

I'm having some difficulty ordering from Vograce. A friend of mine has done orders through them multiple times by creating a zip file of her designs and separating them in different folders by quantity ordered ("10 each, 20 each, etc. etc.") and just attaching it to the email. I tried doing the same, but Angelina said to attach my designs via email and not to copy it into the email even though I did.

I have all my files set as .psd too like the guide in the main post recommends, so I'm a little confused on how to proceed.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 27 02:47:39 2016 No.9300663 >>9297633 Fanime is the new otakon

Anonymous Tue Dec 27 15:47:50 2016 No.9301169

REMINDER: Otakon standard AA opens Jan 10, 2017 7PM EST, $250 w/o badge, screened lottery

There is also a Pro option which costs $750 incl 1 badge (reg opens Dec 28, 2016 7PM EST) or Unlimited option for $1100 incl 1 badge for those who are in-between AA & Dealer's Room levels (reg opens Jan 3, 2017 7PM EST)

http://dc.otakon.com/exhibits/alley/registration/

ALSO: Anime NYC has AA reg open via table request forms (new con in November, but backed by Crunchyroll)

http://animenyc.com/artist-alley/

(Updated this info in the Convention List googledoc)

Anonymous Wed Dec 28 18:41:26 2016 No.9302239

I plan on offering commissions at my next con for the first time, I've found some info about how people tend to price things but I was wondering what the general process is like? My main questions are:
>Do you have some kind of order form that the customer fills out like # of characters, portrait/full body, ink/color, etc., and then you use that to determine the price?
>Do you take payment before or after the commission is completed? Do you do a deposit beforehand and then the rest later?
>How do you go about contacting them when the piece is done? Do you give them a phone # or just tell them to check back at the end of the day/con.

Sorry for all the questions, I wish I had paid more attention at previous cons as to how people handled things.

Anonymous Wed Dec 28 18:56:58 2016 No.9302257

>>9302239
>Order Form
Yes. Get all the information down in one spot about the commission type, reference images, and the person's contact information, then you can't lose it.

>Pay up front
Yes. 100% up front.

>Contacting
I get their phone number on the order form, and either text them or leave a voice mail (whichever their preference) when it's finished.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 29 01:37:37 2016 No.9302519 >>9300207 ALA is a chill party con though, fanime is arguably legit

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 29 01:47:05 2016 No.9302530 anyone hear from sakuracon yet

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 29 02:30:57 2016 No.9302564 >>9302530 Isn't it fairly early still? How soon did they respond to last year's lottery?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 29 03:03:32 2016 No.9302585 >>9302530 Spoke too soon. Didn't get in.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 29 03:12:52 2016 No.9302590 File: 86 KB, 890x279, Screen Shot 2016-12-29 at 12.11.49 AM.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9302530 >>9302564 I honestly wasn't expecting to get in, so I'm a little surprised.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 29 03:17:13 2016 No.9302592 >>9302590 Damn. I was really hoping to get in to see family up there..

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 29 03:18:58 2016 No.9302595 >>9302257 thank you so much!

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 29 03:34:38 2016 No.9302601 >>9302530 heard that I didn't get in. Living on the west coast and only getting in to east coast cons sucks. I hooe they say how many applicants they had, really curious.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 29 13:36:33 2016 No.9302867 Doing my first con in a few months time and I've been making a bunch of keychain designs for it but I'm just wondering what would be the best way to go about displaying them?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 29 14:17:29 2016 No.9302898 File: 306 KB, 1024x1024, 1469584212781.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9302867 There's a few different methods. There's one like the OP that's done on cork boards. Also this image is a nice idea too.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 29 14:19:05 2016 No.9302899 File: 157 KB, 640x640, idea1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9302898 Another idea is like on the top right.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 29 21:23:37 2016 No.9303226 Those who didn't get into Sakuracon: Don't feel too bad, they're moving the AA to the FUCKING BASEMENT this year so profit is sure to tank.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 29 22:13:31 2016 No.9303271 >>9303226 Do they allow fanart in dealers?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 29 22:36:42 2016 No.9303286 >>9302239 I wouldn't let customers fill out the form, just do it yourself so you can shorthand notes if needed and still understand them. Payment up front of course and I like texting people with an alternate phone number set up through google voice.

Anonymous Fri Dec 30 00:41:45 2016 No.9303356

>>9302239
>>9302257
>>9303286
As someone I think has tried to get more commissions that anyone else these are the things that I agree on and are smart for an artist to do:

Yes get all the information you can so you can reference it later if you forget, any contact info and references and descriptions of what they want, it is easy to forget in the midst of low-sleep high-stress con environs.

Yes take payment first, those of us that get comms from artists are fine with that, anyone not fine with that is not worth your time.

Yes hit them up via text, worst case it's on them to pick it up after, I know I've probably missed almost 50 comms at this point due to errors in my own record system or AAs closing on me before I can finish all the pickups, although I'm usually able to hit up an artists the next con or the con after.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 30 01:17:08 2016 No.9303386 >>9303271 Pretty sure they are kicking all the artists out from vendors

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 30 01:20:14 2016 No.9303389 >>9303226 I don't think so, there will be little to no competition in types/style of merchandise since none of the regular AA artists got in.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 30 01:20:36 2016 No.9303390 >>9303386 I got a dealers table despite usually being in aa and I don't see any rules against fanart unless it's liscensed by funi

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 30 01:23:07 2016 No.9303392 >>9303390 I've been thinking about getting a dealer's table. How much was it, seagull?

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 30 01:23:38 2016 No.9303393 >>9303226 christ, I was hoping that the move to lottery system this year would mean that I would have a chance but nope. Does anyone need a table partner for sakuracon or know someone who is looking for one?

Anonymous Fri Dec 30 01:50:02 2016 No.9303406

>>9303226

For those of us in the PNW, this and Kumoricon are basically the only local animu cons worth going to, and not having to travel to the ass of the earth means costs are low to begin with, so no, it still really sucks to miss out.

>>9303389
This, and with even fewer tables than before, it's less competition.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 30 01:50:21 2016 No.9303407 its so hard to not post on my fan twitter how depressed i am and how i only hold on for my fans i only want to bring them happiness and not have them think less of me

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 30 06:32:18 2016 No.9303497 >>9299229 Hate bumping my own questions but i could really do with an answer

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 30 06:35:43 2016 No.9303501 >>9303407 Make a personal acct

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 30 08:37:17 2016 No.9303557 >>9303497 That's correct afaik. I had to pay to get clear samples as well.

Anonymous Fri Dec 30 08:53:11 2016 No.9303565

>>9303286
Thank-you, I'll keep that in mind. I thought it would be cool to have a little form for people to fill out but I see now that it would be better to just talk to them directly, that way there's no misunderstandings.

>>9303356
good to know! I'm glad to hear from the customer perspective since that was mostly what I was worried about. Wasn't sure what people were used to.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 30 09:02:04 2016 No.9303568 >>9303407 dear diary, (seriously, do what other anon suggested and make a private personal account. You can post on your main letting mutuals follow/know about it.)

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 30 11:09:37 2016 No.9303655 >>9303392 $675 for a standard 10 by 10.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 30 11:51:45 2016 No.9303678 >>9303568 ah thanks for the idea for not just making a separate account but to post it for the ppl who would wanna follow it since then it'll be up to them, I'm gonna do that now

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 30 12:11:49 2016 No.9303694 >>9303557 Awesome! Just wanted to make sure it was the case and there wasnt a miscommunication

Anonymous Fri Dec 30 17:41:07 2016 No.9303932
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Sorry for the huge pic.

But I have the standard cellphone strap. I also bought some of these style keychains. I was thinking of offering customers an option to switch to the keychains for an extra cost. Whay do you think is a reasonable rate? The keychains cost me just a smidge over 25 cents each.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 30 17:46:10 2016 No.9303934 >>9303932 are you selling these at-con or online? online you could probably get away with adding a dollar to the cost, at-con i would just offer it for free but let them attach it themselves, or not offer it at all

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 30 17:49:05 2016 No.9303940 >>9303934 I was planning at con, and then whatever was left afterwards would go online.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 30 18:56:26 2016 No.9303981 >>9303406 Kuroneko is shaping up to be decent. They're at about 2000+ attendees, and balance the supply-demand of how many AA tables to have pretty well. Give them another couple years and they'll be worth traveling to.

Anonymous Fri Dec 30 20:32:19 2016 No.9304050

Wondering if anyone else has seen these lately, I've been to a few cons were artists have been displaying a small photo frame with a picture of their fave character on their table. Sometimes they'll have offerings of candy and flowers like a little shrine. I've seen them since last year, but I'm wondering if anyone knew how it started?

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 30 20:34:29 2016 No.9304052 >>9304050 It's been around for a long time, it's just finally catching on with the normie-tier artists as 'acceptable' True weebs have been doing it for years as offerings to waifus and husbandos

Anonymous Sat Dec 31 14:13:25 2016 No.9304664
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>>9303390
i emailed them several months ago asking about a booth and they explicitly said no fan art. you might want to double check with them in case you run into problems at the con

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 31 14:15:27 2016 No.9304666 >>9304664 This is unrelated to sakura specifically but I wonder what those anti-proxy people say about no fanart in dealer's when their whole schtick was successful fan artists should be forced to move to dealers instead of proxying.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 31 22:15:33 2016 No.9305038 Any thoughts on ALA's AA? Friend offered half a table but I'm wondering whether it'd be worth the drive and hotel along with restock merchandise.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 31 22:44:53 2016 No.9305075 >>9303932 I agree, go with a dollar. >>9302898 this is adorable!

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 31 22:46:22 2016 No.9305077 >>9305038 I've heard people usually do really good at ALA's AA.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 1 00:16:37 2017 No.9305157 Is AA becoming more popular because the profits are really that easy? When I see some tables with subpar stuff, I truly wonder if they can churn out a profit.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 1 00:46:34 2017 No.9305182 >>9305157 They get into the mindset that anyone can do it. Most will go into debt doing it, or live with parents that can fund it.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 1 00:57:31 2017 No.9305196 >>9305157 everyone starts somewhere, anon.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 1 05:46:10 2017 No.9305336 >>9305196 They're referring to the over-abundance of newcomers going into it though. There's many more than there used to be.

Anonymous Sun Jan 1 05:48:27 2017 No.9305337

>>9305157
combination of it being much easier to source merch than before and the popularity of artists who do alleys on tumblr imo
lots of people get in their head that if they can 'kinda break even' with shitty FOTM stuff that means they should keep doing AA

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 1 12:47:10 2017 No.9305503 >>9305157 I wonder too because I see mediocre artists who go to tons of big cons all around the country and was wondering how they afford all that travel with their bad art and if it's still profitable for them.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 1 15:15:36 2017 No.9305603 >>9305157 Participation from art school students is also the norm now. At one point anime art was looked down upon enough that you'd be side eyed for doing AA but now if you don't you're considered weird.

Anonymous Sun Jan 1 16:07:23 2017 No.9305636

>>9305157
>>9305503
I've discussed numbers with some artists that a lot of people might consider "mediocre" and they do make enough money to justify doing cons to themselves.

In some cases, it's because they think several hundred ~$1k is a huge profit margin because they haven't seen other people regularly pull in $5k and above. In other cases, they might have had a lucky con where they did really well (having the right memey stuff at the right time, riding a cash cow trend first, etc) and they're hoping to meet that profit margin again despite the initial popularity wave of whatever they were banking on dying out. So they keep doing cons with out-dated merch that only sold well when it did because the fandom itself was popular not because their art was good and barely breaking even.

I think the general trend of more and more newbies joining the scene is 1) info on AAs is much easier to access now and consolidated into one place like AANI on Facebook and 2) artists will convince their art friends to table too - that's what I did with my friends.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 1 16:29:33 2017 No.9305657 I'miss looking for something to store my buttons in (like a clear box with a space ton to each button in?) What do you guys use? Anything I can order online?

Anonymous Sun Jan 1 16:36:09 2017 No.9305662

>>9305503
I feel like anyone who's been drawing for at least a year could sell at a AA no? Most kids who go to a con see "oh, I like garnet from SU" and buy it because they like the character, not because of the art? I use to do this back when I was 12-14 at AAs, I'd always buy random shit because it had characters I liked on it, not because of the artist.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 1 16:38:06 2017 No.9305665 >>9305038 I have a friend who vends and does pretty well at ALA. Also I heard since it's an after Christmas con, more people looking to spend their money and shit

Anonymous Sun Jan 1 17:32:35 2017 No.9305703
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is there a reason artists are so paranoid when you send them gifts? i just don't understand anymore why this keeps happening....

it isn't even the same artist as last time either ~_~

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 1 17:38:58 2017 No.9305708 >>9305703 You're on 4chan and you don't realize the internet promotes a culture of hiding behind anonymity to fuck people over?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 1 17:41:56 2017 No.9305711 >>9305703 I guess its weird to randomly send someone a gift card with no message, but thats still a weird response.

Anonymous Sun Jan 1 17:44:56 2017 No.9305714

>>9305657
I have clear boxes I got from Michael's, but I'm sure you can find them anywhere that sells craft supplies. Usually they're marketed for organizing beads and come in a bunch of different sizes.

>>9305703
I got a message for a gift card yesterday, if it was you anon bless you. Definitely made my night.

Anonymous Sun Jan 1 17:54:30 2017 No.9305726

>>9305703
Maybe either stop doing it anonymously or do it with a note saying how much you like their art and how you wish they a good new year. If you send anonymous things w/o any context it can be kinda weird. I mean last time yea the artist you gifted too was just a drama queen but maybe it's a pattern due to how you present it if it keeps happening. I mean ideally you aren't anonymous but if you must be, try to at least seem relatable instead of mysterious i guess.

Anonymous Sun Jan 1 17:59:49 2017 No.9305728

>>9305708
I just dont see how a giftcard code could screw someone over ~_~
>>9305711
>>9305714
>>9305726
i did include a message thanking them for the joy they brought me in 2016 and wishing them a good 2017 and then the code

did as many as i could afford, i prefer doing it anonymously because i dont want anyone to feel like they owe me anything ~_~

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 1 18:03:53 2017 No.9305731 >>9305077 >>9305665 That's good to hear! Thanks for the replies. I was a bit concerned until I saw that there's not as many artist tables as I thought.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 1 18:06:25 2017 No.9305733 >>9305731 No problem! Hope you have a good time!

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 1 18:13:34 2017 No.9305739 Is there a standard button/charm size for AA that is the most popular? Or sizes I guess.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 1 18:18:55 2017 No.9305743 >>9305739 People say 1.25" and 1.5" sell well (1.25" are easy to make packaged button sets for). Speaking of buttons, has anyone seen the star buttons from today's SPS? I've never seen that shape before, they looked really cool.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 1 18:32:11 2017 No.9305755 >>9305703 >>9305728 Stop being an autistic joke in the community and actually start engaging people with your name.

Anonymous Sun Jan 1 18:45:14 2017 No.9305764

>>9305728
well if you sent a lot of them and only got one weird response i would say that's pretty good. some people will naturally be weirded out by anonymous gifts, you don't know if they've or their close friends have been stalked before or anything like that.

Anonymous Sun Jan 1 18:48:06 2017 No.9305766

>>9305728
Sorry anon! I was also a weirded out recipient since I've been pretty quiet on my main tumblr and didn't understand what I drew recently to deserve a gift.
The combination of a generic anon message and a string of numbers made me immediately flag it as spam, but on closer inspection and trying it out I realized it was legit. I feel like personalizing your messages would make it seem more sincere and less bot-ish, but you mentioned sending out a lot of them at once so that's probably too time consuming.

(Thank you for the card)

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 1 18:54:17 2017 No.9305770 >>9305743 Would those two sizes still go for $2 each? And what is SPS? Sorry for asking, I'm too new at this.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 1 18:58:25 2017 No.9305775 >>9305770 SPS is sales post sunday in the AANI group on facebook. It's basically the day everybody can promote their shops and when they're in AA at cons and so on. The group has WIPW(Work in progress Wednesday)

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 1 19:18:02 2017 No.9305785 For those that do artist alley/freelance full time, how do you report your yearly earnings to the government? I've been doing it for fun here and there but I've always wondered how full timers deal with it

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 1 19:25:30 2017 No.9305789 >>9305785 I make sure to keep track of my earnings every con, but also make sure to keep track of all costs related to cons as well. -materials -travel -hotel

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 1 19:45:05 2017 No.9305805 I've already got two art shows and one AA lined up for this year! I'm excited to sell more since last year was my first time tabling and I absolutely loved it.

Anonymous Sun Jan 1 21:45:13 2017 No.9305896
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Oh, brutally honest 4chan, can I get some crit before I start coloring this thing?

It's my first time making charms, and I've had one hell of a time figuring out which details to keep and which to simplify. Any opinions would be welcomed. End product will have simple cell shading, and colored line art.

Anonymous Sun Jan 1 21:52:39 2017 No.9305902

>>9305896
You've got a good balance of detail, actually. The only things I would change is the bit of hair between the jawline and shoulders is kinda tangental and is causing some visual tension. The dots that you've made as buttons on his top should be white/gray line holds in the final art. Lastly, let's make those tips on the swords sharp and pointy.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 1 22:03:25 2017 No.9305905 >>9305902 Thanks! The fresh set of eyes really helps, I'll pull a couple revisions, then.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 1 23:12:11 2017 No.9305948 >>9305896 the shading on his nose is pretty distracting, it makes it seem like one side of his nose is bigger/he have one big nostril, just shade the bottom

Anonymous Sun Jan 1 23:15:33 2017 No.9305951

>>9305896
Have you considered giving Lloyd a dot nose? Because the two lines are kind of distracting. And for his hair, you can try making his back tufts a bit bigger along with his top cowlick (it looks bigger in the official art, compared to the chibi - if that makes sense?). Just to make it look "cuter" I guess.

Anonymous Sun Jan 1 23:16:06 2017 No.9305953

>>9305728
>>9305766
Plus on maybe personalizing the messages, but since it's an Amazon card I wasn't suspicious.

I've received stuff before through messages but as long as it's like steam credits or gift cards redeemable online I don't see it as suspicious. [Thank you again for the gift! Can't wait to buy some books.]

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 1 23:30:03 2017 No.9305959 File: 58 KB, 696x574, faceproportions.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9305896 I think it would be cuter if you made his eyes bigger and shifted the eyes/nose a little bit lower.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 02:13:08 2017 No.9306074 >>9305896 oh is the red line the cut out of the acrylic? because the swords would easily break off if the acrylic's cut like that, I would suggest not having the gap and just make it one big shape.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 02:45:47 2017 No.9306090 File: 87 KB, 850x1100, FB_IMG_1483343011814.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] The person who makes this art is an AA conchair. If they can make a profit and do several cons a year, anyone can. It's really encouraging.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 02:57:07 2017 No.9306094 >>9306090 this has to be several years old.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 03:03:29 2017 No.9306097 File: 99 KB, 1440x479, 20170102_030136.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9306094 She finished these somewhere between December 27 and today.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 03:11:24 2017 No.9306099 >>9306097 I have never seen something so 2005-era deviant art this day in age. what the fuck.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 03:17:12 2017 No.9306100 File: 227 KB, 1565x2048, FB_IMG_1483344937534.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9306099 My own art isn't very great, but it isn't as bad as this. I might try to sell at the cons she goes to once I have some physical products ready.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 03:36:38 2017 No.9306106 >>9306100 how arrogant/delusional do you have to be to see all the amazing artists coming into your aa, look at this work and be like, yep, i'm up to par

Anonymous Mon Jan 2 03:55:07 2017 No.9306112

>>9305948
>>9305951
>>9305959
I'll play around with some simpler noses and chibi proportions. Thank you!

>>9306074
It is, roughly. I was planning for these to be fairly big - I'm using the 2.5" template & printing with Acorn Press. I was worried that much plastic would look ungainly. Think they'll still snap, though?

Anonymous Mon Jan 2 04:39:22 2017 No.9306133
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>>9306112
Not the same anon but they'll definitely be prone to breaking cut like that. I just had this large, official charm snap when I dropped it the other day and it's probably around the same thickness.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 04:50:16 2017 No.9306142 >>9305789 interesting, that sounds annoying to keep track of all that Thank you for your response!

Anonymous Mon Jan 2 05:13:31 2017 No.9306151

>>9306142
It's actually quite easy to do, and doesn't take as much time as you think. I keep a spreadsheet with columns for different sorts of expenses (table fee, con badge, materials, travel expenses, etc) and a column for cash transactions and a column for credit cards. As long as you log it throughout the year, like enter in the expense after you've bought some material, it's pretty easy to keep track!

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 12:12:05 2017 No.9306362 >>9306142 I use googledocs for my spreadsheets, it's easy to share with tablemate too when you have any shared expenses, I just enter everything from my phone the instant I spend money and at the end of day when I total my sales

Anonymous Mon Jan 2 12:14:55 2017 No.9306365

>AA applications will open end of November
>AA applications will open beginning of December
>mid december
>before the end of december
>????

Mtac, please. Last year AA applications were *closed* in october. Having to check your facebook every single day is getting old.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 14:04:16 2017 No.9306459 >>9306090 I felt motivated to start tabling for a second until I remembered I didn't get a table at any nearby cons this year. Next year I guess.

Anonymous Mon Jan 2 14:41:32 2017 No.9306489
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>>9305743
Seconding this.
I saw those star buttons, they're pretty neat! Posting it here so others can see.

>>9305770
Yep $2 is fine. I personally sell my 1.25" for $1.50 each but if you don't want to deal with change, then $2 is acceptable.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 14:44:15 2017 No.9306492 >>9306489 > that starscream button Do they have an online store?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 15:05:04 2017 No.9306512 Anyone here selling at MAGFest? I'd love to check out/support some fellow gulls' work!

Anonymous Mon Jan 2 15:15:35 2017 No.9306524

Anons, if you had a friend trying tabling for their first time - how would you advise them on budgeting and making merch? I don't want to tell her to bring too much merch but I also don't want her to lose out on making decent cash since her stuff is cute and should sell decently. She has a small amount of buttons, charms, and postcards done.

I'm not sure what to exactly say since I dove in without much thought for my first few AAs (I'm an idiot, yes.)

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 15:34:31 2017 No.9306537 >>9305743 I saw the star buttons and they're very cute. I wonder if they had them made of it was a custom plate for the button press? I know I've seen the heart shape plate floating around on amazon before.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 15:39:11 2017 No.9306544 >>9306524 I mean, I'd just tell them to keep track of their costs so they can see how much profit they make and to not overspend. I think less is more when you're just starting out. See what sells and then work on getting more products made.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 15:39:26 2017 No.9306546 >>9306537 The OP said they got it done via Alibaba. I've seen some heart shaped plates as well but it seems most people rely on Alibaba merchants for these.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 15:40:27 2017 No.9306549 >>9306090 And this is the art that sells like crazy and I don't get it. Does make me feel better about my work though.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 15:42:08 2017 No.9306553 >>9306133 >me is dying zanzu

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 15:44:43 2017 No.9306556 >>9306546 Ah, thanks for letting me know.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 16:40:15 2017 No.9306601 File: 289 KB, 840x1146, abcmtt.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] which of these is the least weaksauce for a mettaton charm design? i need help with chibi proportions im leaning towards 'b' but 'a' has nicer dimensions

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 16:43:26 2017 No.9306606 >>9306601 A's head look odd to me, and C is just asking to break. So definitely B.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 16:43:57 2017 No.9306607 >>9306601 I like A better as a charm, since it's more compact, and has less negative space. B has nice composition, but would work better for a print if you wanted to add more to it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 16:51:08 2017 No.9306616 >>9306606 >>9306607 thanks yall! ill look and see what i can do for A's head perhaps a trail of bombs spilling behind B to get rid of some of that space?? cause i wouldnt want to make that chunk opaque if i didnt do clear charms

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 17:00:10 2017 No.9306624 >>9306616 or alternatively just put B's head on A

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 17:24:22 2017 No.9306641 >>9306492 gaybravado on etsy

Anonymous Mon Jan 2 17:41:47 2017 No.9306661

>>9306601
A works better as a charm.

>>9306544
That's what I was thinking but what would be "too much" products? 12 products? I'm a bit worried for her since I don't want her to have a bad experience and be hesitant about tabling again. I guess I'm interested in hearing how other artists started off.

Anonymous Mon Jan 2 17:46:55 2017 No.9306666

>>9306661
I had my first table last year. Had four 11x17 prints, four 5x7, six sticker designs, and two buttons. The con itself wasn't big at all and traffic was slow (said con doesn't even exist anymore so yeah). I thought that I had too much stuff but I also went in with the mindset that I wouldn't sell anything and I sold more than I thought I would.

The best thing for your friend to do is just get out there. Everything won't be perfect (I didn't break even my first con) and they'll make mistakes but the best thing to do is not let that discourage them. If they're serious about it, they'll do well.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 18:58:06 2017 No.9306716 >>9306133 please tell me you dropped everything and went SHIIIIIIEEEEEEHHHH when you noticed

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 20:33:08 2017 No.9306790 >>9305896 more from a stylization pov, maybe pull the trousers further up the torso

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 20:54:28 2017 No.9306803 >>9306641 ...I hate to be the one to ask this, but who is doing those glitter acrylic charms? Zap got some ugly glitter boards and I don't think AP offers it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 21:04:14 2017 No.9306810 >>9306803 it's AP, they recently announced a whole heap of new materials

Anonymous Mon Jan 2 22:01:34 2017 No.9306858

>>9306133
How long are charms like this supposed to last? I usually don't buy them but an artist I really love started making some and I decided to snag one. A leg snapped off a few months after I bought it and the whole thing finally broke not soon after.

I was going to try acrylic charms but I'm leaning more towards enamel pins now.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 22:06:32 2017 No.9306865 >>9306858 as far as i'm concerned with my charms, i design them to hopefully last forever. I don't design fragile / too big charms, i don't use companies that have ink that chips or resin that yellows etc.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 22:16:55 2017 No.9306872 >>9306865 Not to be "that" person, but what companies would you recommend? Just not using alibaba or vogrance type companies?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 2 22:21:51 2017 No.9306876 >>9306872 I'm just gonna say you get what you pay for. The quality scale is pretty much identical with how the different prices scale in my experience with my charms vs charms my friends get and others i've bought/traded for.

Anonymous Tue Jan 3 04:20:16 2017 No.9307198
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>>9306601
Having three characters on one makes it more unique.

I hope it's ok that I messed with your drawing, I swapped and tilted the head. You get to use B's really good expression and you still get to keep the compact shape from A. Good luck with your charms, your art is really cute!

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 3 05:49:44 2017 No.9307232 Does anybody know if charms or stickers sell better? Of the same thing, of course. Charms would be more expensive, while stickers would be much cheaper. Would it be better to just go with one, or do both?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 3 05:53:42 2017 No.9307234 >>9307232 charms sell better for me than individual stickers, but sticker sheets sell better than charms

Anonymous Tue Jan 3 09:03:36 2017 No.9307328
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I'm making a really large keychain for the first time (about 9cm big) and I'm not sure whether I should get it made with epoxy or not since a lot of the big ones I have bought from AA's do.

Do people prefer it with epoxy or should I just go without? Any advice would be appreciated!

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 3 10:00:24 2017 No.9307372 >>9307328 Please don't draw flipper hands.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 3 10:06:33 2017 No.9307379 File: 47 KB, 223x198, flipper.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9307372 too bad i already did

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 3 10:11:07 2017 No.9307381 >>9307379 If you think your art is good enough to be sold you should take the time to actually draw proper hands and not just a box with some zigzag pattern. I'm sorry but it isn't cute, it just looks lazy.

Anonymous Tue Jan 3 10:14:15 2017 No.9307383

>>9307381
The thing is the art itself is going to be pretty small on the final product so I didn't think people would care that much, but I guess I'll keep it in mind for next time, thanks anon.

>earlier post was just a joke I know flipper hands are terrible.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 3 11:51:38 2017 No.9307480 File: 864 KB, 540x949, tumblr_inline_of6ayle3dK1txfu7b_1280.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9306810 Thanks! I wasn't sure if their holographic one was translucent since the one in their photo looks opaque.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 3 11:56:55 2017 No.9307487 any eurofags here? where are you from how are AAs in your country? ever been to a convention abroad or overseas?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 3 12:12:00 2017 No.9307503 >>9306601 Do you have a site or something?

Anonymous Tue Jan 3 12:34:09 2017 No.9307518

>>9307232
My charms sell better. People at my booth tell me they're afraid they'll regret their sticker placement so they never end up using them.
The profit margin on a charm is way higher anyway, so that's fine by me.

>>9307487
Dutchfag here, our AAs suck, people just don't want to spend money. Courious how we compare to other European AAs. I tried FACTS with moderate succes, think I'm gonna be trying out German and French cons this year.
My dream for the (distant) future is to fly out to an American con.
hbu?

Anonymous Tue Jan 3 12:35:21 2017 No.9307519
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>>9307487
Eurofag here, I'm from Denmark.
>How are AAs in your country?
Really small, it's mostly badges, stickers and prints if we're talking artists and then there are the usual polymer clay people and one furry. No one really does a lot of table decorating or does acrylic charms like the US and such seem to do, probably because it seems like kind of a gamble here.

>Ever been to a convention abroad or overseas?
The nearest I got out of the country is sweden at Närcon summer, AA was definitely bigger but otherwise not that different from the danish ones.

I really wish people here in DK would do zines and acrylic charms but I think the AAs are too small for stuff like that.

Anonymous Tue Jan 3 13:04:39 2017 No.9307546

>>9307198
thanks! thats actually what i ended up going with! i finished it last night but after fresh eyes i might do some more touchups before sending it to print
>>9307503
i do i should add it to the sheet. i have been working on getting together an AA portfolio off and on for a year now but my main handle is picopepin

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 3 13:07:44 2017 No.9307550 Does anybody know what is needed to table at a US con as a foreigner? I'm understand that citizens need to get a sales permits and so on, but I'm not sure if I'd need anything on top of that.

Anonymous Tue Jan 3 14:23:45 2017 No.9307635

>>9307550
Not this anon but I actually have the opposite question. Any US gulls table at Canadian cons? I know some aritsts mail their stock to their friends ahead of time to avoid declaring their stock at customs but I'm wondering if they really go through your suitcase? Couldn't you just leave your prints in your luggage?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 3 14:32:17 2017 No.9307652 How bad is it to get into KitaCon? Would really like to give it a shot but if its anything like sign up...

Anonymous Tue Jan 3 15:55:44 2017 No.9307751
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>>9307635
If they go through your luggage, you'll get a slip like this. Usually it's random, this is the first slip I've gotten traveling from Los Angeles to Toronto over the past 6 years and they check it at any random point you stop. My spouse though has gotten multiple over their two years of traveling.

Also I've gotten away with having 12 different sculptures in my bag but I don't think that's a high enough number to consider something to tax and was more obvious they were personal items since they were just in a bag. I also don't recommend putting anything fragile in your checked bag, only your carry on to ensure that nothing gets damaged.

To avoid duties and other taxes, I would definitely mail your stuff to a friend if possible. If not, consider a shipping service that's willing to hold your package at the office (such as UPS or FedEx). For actual documents for tabling, I'm afraid I'm not much help. :s

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 3 16:32:07 2017 No.9307776 >>9306546 Has anyine found the alibaba that does star buttons?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 3 17:17:27 2017 No.9307832 >>9307776 https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/Handmade-Quality-Manufactory-Heart-Star-button_60506880869.html?spm=a2700.7724838.0.0.VJngIb first page of search results

Anonymous Tue Jan 3 17:24:48 2017 No.9307842

>>9306661
If she brings 1 or 2 of each design that should be enough to give her an idea of how much to make/what to make. Also, if she's quick at drawing, consider offering cheap commissons or a free sketch if you spend over x amount. It'll help her break even and see which characters sell best.
Also, get her to make a spreadsheet. It's amazing how it helps.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 3 17:25:03 2017 No.9307844 >>9307776 >>9307832 man, you guys complain abt AANI and spoonfeeding but it's the same shit over here

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 3 19:56:37 2017 No.9307981 >>9307844 Because AANI came here too.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 3 20:24:31 2017 No.9308031 >>9307844 >>9307981 yeah cause shit talking makes this place more useful somehow

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 3 21:46:13 2017 No.9308107 Does AB still have a 50/50 fanart/original art rule? I can't seem to find it on the rules but I'm probably just overlooking it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 3 21:50:00 2017 No.9308118 >>9308107 anime boston has never had 50/50 afaik as long as you are a regular table and not pro row

Anonymous Tue Jan 3 23:05:09 2017 No.9308178

>>9307751
I've gotten TSA slips before while traveling even within just the US too. I'm just wondering if the people doing the customs check at the border will know if I don't declare my prints. But I guess seeing a box full of posters might raise some questions. Thanks, seagull!

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 3 23:08:52 2017 No.9308179 >>9308031 we don't exist to google things for those too stupid to do so

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 3 23:35:22 2017 No.9308193 Just got the latest A-Kon AA News letter; instead of a two hour window apparently it's a nine hour window to sign up. That's gonna be a LOT of applications to go through. Also, it's going to be combined with dealers. Think that's going to hurt sales?

Anonymous Tue Jan 3 23:42:19 2017 No.9308205
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Does anyone else notice a big bump in sales when you wear revealing cosplay?

I keep meticulous records and it's always at minimum 12% increase and the best I got with more skin was 23% over my other cons.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 3 23:44:12 2017 No.9308209 >>9308193 from my experience, combining with dealers usually boosts sales, gets more traffic etc. If people like your art, they will buy it regardless of whether there's official merchandise of it or not.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 00:02:52 2017 No.9308220 >>9307842 2 copies seems a bit low. I know the rule of thumb seems to be 4-5 copies for prints but is buttons and charms the same low quantity?

Anonymous Wed Jan 4 00:46:31 2017 No.9308295

>>9306524
I just started alleying this last February after helping out my friends for the past three years and honestly I feel like the best decision I made was starting at small cons and doing prints only for my first two. I know I mostly got lucky but I actually made a decent profit.
I'd look for a small college convention that has a small table cost and steer her towards postcards/prints, at least for her first convention, since they're cheap to make and have a high profit percentage.
As for product amount, I had about 15 8x10 prints my first con.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 00:49:02 2017 No.9308302 >>9308220 I usually go for 10 copies per a design.

Anonymous Wed Jan 4 00:52:48 2017 No.9308311

>>9308220
From past threads when it comes to buttons/charms I've heard some gulls say something like ~5-10 per design; some have said 10 if it seems to be a popular design. I just want to start making charms myself but I'm going to cool it and just do one design first with a minimum of 10 since the company I plan to use has that as their moq.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 03:32:16 2017 No.9308444 Anyone had customers that complain about metal allergies when it comes to charms? I've been trying to find a strong alternative that will last.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 05:51:49 2017 No.9308511 >>9308444 nope, and unless it was like 4+ a con i wouldn't bother with the inconvenience

Anonymous Wed Jan 4 07:52:39 2017 No.9308566

>>9308311
Curious how more experienced artists do this. I order 5-10 at first and re-order based on how popular they are. When I bought a charm at another artist's table, I happened to see the bag they came in from vograce with "60" written on it. Is ordering that many normal when you're more experienced?

Anonymous Wed Jan 4 08:24:42 2017 No.9308586

>>9308566
If you go to many conventions or have more than one lined-up in the same month then yes it just seems more practical to have more. Don't want to sell all of your best sellers one weekend and then show up to a convention the following weekend or month and your best sellers are all gone.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 08:58:47 2017 No.9308600 >>9308566 I use Inkit so my minimum is 20. If I don't think I can sell 20 of a design in a whole year then it honestly isn't worth making in the first place.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 15:33:56 2017 No.9308954 Anyone get into Triad? I feel like it's always hit or miss when I apply to anime cons. I never really get that upset since my work definitely isn't anime-geared; there just aren't very many options in the area.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 15:44:31 2017 No.9308973 >>9308444 I have a metal allergy, but I'm not sure how a charm would aggravate it..? Unless it's jewelry, but most charms are keychain/phone and not on your skin.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 16:28:44 2017 No.9309026 >>9308566 If I was doing a few cons over a few months, I'd order more to start with to take advantage of bulk discounts. Normally though I do the same as you-- AA is a hobby and a side gig, not my main source of income, so I only do a few cons a year.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 19:39:42 2017 No.9309223 Anime Midwest worth applying to? I've heard kopf cons should be avoided but not sure how true that is.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 20:30:21 2017 No.9309294 >>9309223 yeah they usualy suck me and a friend did one n only made like 200 dollars each. also hes a creep

Anonymous Wed Jan 4 21:09:13 2017 No.9309366

Hi fellow crafty-gulls.
Do you have any ideas/pictures of how one can hang necklaces, chokers, wristcuffs and so on? I only make unique ones, so I would prefer to hang up atleast 5 of each item.

Also, is it worth traveling to nordic cons like Sweden, Denmark, Finland and so on? I live in the north myself so I would probably go by car. Made any profits all considered? Language barriers?
Thank beforehand ~

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 5 00:50:24 2017 No.9309579 >>9308954 I didn't even hear back from them. Did you get an acceptance email anon?

Anonymous Thu Jan 5 04:59:10 2017 No.9309703

>>9309366
If your forte are accessories, I don't think travelling around Nordic cons would be very profitable. From what I know, Denmark has a pretty quiet AA scene (a gull from Denmark further up in the thread actually described it as well) and people don't really seem to care about the AA. Sweden seems to be about the same, even though there are more sellers and a bit more interest towards AAs in general. Finland has the most active AA scene in the Nordics (in my opinion), but like I said before, I doubt selling accessories at a normal anime con would get you to break even after all the travel costs. Finland has Hellocon which sounds more like your thing, though. Maybe check it out?

As for language barriers, Nordic congoers usually speak good English, so no worries there. Hope I was of some help!

Anonymous Thu Jan 5 05:51:17 2017 No.9309734

>>9309703
>>9309366
Well, there's no Hellocon anymore, but the organizers are planning smaller scale events. The next one is in February, called "Looking for Alice".

I agree that we have decent AA scene here in Finland, but from what I've heard and seen myself it's a bit of hit or miss with anything out of the season items, as in obscure series or original art. There are some regular AA sellers who sell bjd clothes, jewelry, accessories etc. on the side with prints, but they usually share the table with someone who is selling fan art. I'd look around a bit more before committing to our cons.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 5 07:03:30 2017 No.9309761 >>9309579 No, I was rejected. They sent out emails yesterday. I haven't seen anybody say they got in yet.

Anonymous Thu Jan 5 19:30:28 2017 No.9310367

How does one ship stickers while keeping costs low? I want to sell stickers online since they sold well at cons but I don't know how to package them so they won't get damaged during transport as well as keep the shipping low. My stickers are very tiny about 1-3" tall

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 5 19:35:45 2017 No.9310373 >>9310367 why not just a simple envelope?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 5 19:39:29 2017 No.9310378 >>9310367 Ship in a standard envelope with stickers in a plastic bag sandwiched with a piece of paper folded in half.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 5 19:45:09 2017 No.9310380 >>9310373 Is that the most cost-effecient option? I'm just worried that the envelope could get bend/damaged or lost. I'm not sure how other artists package theirs for shipping either

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 5 19:49:58 2017 No.9310384 >>9310378 I'll try that! Thanks!

Anonymous Thu Jan 5 19:55:25 2017 No.9310387

>>9310367
I ship my stickers with a little bit of decorative cardstock to back them, and just shipped them as a letter with a stamp since I wanted to keep shipping cheap, and it's hard to justify $3 shipping for a $1 sticker. For international orders I also shipped them as letters, but sandwiched them with thicker cardstock to prevent them from getting bent.

You don't get tracking when you ship them out with a stamp, obviously, but stickers cost almost nothing to make, so I never minded shipping out an order twice in case one got lost in the mail (but maybe that's just me).

Anonymous Thu Jan 5 20:25:08 2017 No.9310414

Idk if this is the place to ask but I'm going to my first con this year and I'm interested in buying stuff from AA and the dealer's hall. How much money is recommended for you to bring? I'm only interested in a few fandoms and picky with things/prices but still. How does $70 sound? (I usually buy one or two pricey items and the rest are relatively cheap stuff)

Anonymous Thu Jan 5 20:46:50 2017 No.9310426

>>9310380
exactly what >>9310387 said

>>9310414
depends how you are with your money. I'm super picky and rarely buy anything, but if I do, its never over $50. I have friends who will spend literally every single dollar they bring, so, eh.
Bringing anywhere between $30 and $100 should be good, should be enough for food and merch. You can always just grab a business card of an artist you like if you like something they have and buy it later if you didn't bring enough cash.

Anonymous Thu Jan 5 21:16:25 2017 No.9310443

>>9310414
In my area (pacific nw) Prints are usually 15-25$. Stickers 1-2$, buttons 2-3$, cell phone charms 8-12$. Anime figures are between 15-150$ depending on quality. Official straps are 7-15$. Think about how many things you want to pick up, and budget accordingly.

I'm a terrible artist alley whore, and an itabagger, and I collect figures, so I usually spend around 400-600$ in the AA & dealer's hall. My older brother usually spends 30-50$, and only if there's unique pokemon stuff or clever video game t-shirts around. It depends on the person.

Personally, I'd recommend bringing a little bit more than you think you're going to spend in case you run into that one extra thing on the last day that you really want. I also recommend setting a strict budget, and sticking to it. Never dip into your food budget for merch.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 5 22:43:21 2017 No.9310511 hey aus-gulls, are the supanovas (besides sydney) worth travelling for? I'm not looking to make a huge profit, would just like to make back costs + some aa spending money.

Anonymous Fri Jan 6 00:19:27 2017 No.9310589

for those of you who sell online what sort of tips would you give for creating appropriate thumbnail/photo shots of your samples? im probably going to go around and look at storefronts for my own research but do you think that the way you shoot them (ie, in a pile versus next to objects) makes for better sales?

obviously the higher quality presentation the better off you are on all art standpoints but im curious anyway

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 6 01:24:47 2017 No.9310647 >>9310511 depends what you draw, i think overwatch and maybe LOL would be pretty good for the money (and for the weeb side maybe some yuri on ice sdtuff). The tables themselves are kinda pricey though

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 6 01:44:23 2017 No.9310664 >>9310647 Yeah, i'm mostly into games and stuff (and OW and LoL are actually most of my stock, haha). Thanks for the response. Tables are pricey but fall well under what I usually make at cons of that size, but i had no idea what the audience was like.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 6 02:10:56 2017 No.9310684 >>9310414 I usually bring 200-300, Don't forget to Bring Cash!!!! This is so important, ATMs usually run out... and I would suggest shop more in AA simply because most things in vendors you can get cheaper on ebay.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 6 20:03:18 2017 No.9311358 >>9310367 I've had no issue selling my stickers in envelopes but I am looking into making custom sticker packaging just because I'm working on making everything way more professional

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 6 22:30:29 2017 No.9311473 >>9310589 For stickers, I like seeing them in piles if they're already cut out and then a photo of the individual sticker design

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 7 06:36:16 2017 No.9311774 >>9310511 I've only ever done Melbourne Supa and it's usually one of my best cons of the year.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 7 06:40:48 2017 No.9311777 >>9307652 Way easier to get in, their aa is pretty dead but you know 18+ con so people spend like double what they do at ones that allow u18s

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 7 11:00:46 2017 No.9311906 Is there a program other than photoshop that can convert rgb to cmyk? I tried it with manga studio but it didn't seem to convert it accurately.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 7 12:57:33 2017 No.9311965 >>9311906 not sure but you can get photoshop for 10 bux a month so

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 7 14:42:53 2017 No.9312025 >>9311965 Really? Because when I checked it was like 33 bucks.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 7 15:02:04 2017 No.9312038 >>9311906 Krita

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 7 16:12:29 2017 No.9312097 >>9311906 If you're a student, you can get the entire creative suite for $20 a month but that's the only discount I know of

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 7 16:17:25 2017 No.9312103 File: 26 KB, 256x319, Screen Shot 2017-01-07 at 1.16.55 PM.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9312025 The photography plan comes with Lightroom & Photoshop, and is $9.99 a month.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 7 16:28:40 2017 No.9312115 >>9311906 just buy photoshop elements, its only like $70

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 8 18:43:06 2017 No.9313424 Anyone know when & how long Vograce will be away for CNY?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 8 19:58:17 2017 No.9313482 >>9313424 I heard until February 5th

Anonymous Sun Jan 8 20:18:03 2017 No.9313497

>>9312103
this. don't let the title of it fool you, it is exactly the same as buying the photoshop subscription by itself except it comes with lightroom and is half the price.
i've been spending 20 dollars a month on photoshop for about 6 months and had to go through their helpdesk to get my subscription changed. i was so annoyed.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 8 22:16:23 2017 No.9313586 I've got a question. An artist friend of mine lives outside of the US but has given permission for me to sell his artwork at a convention. Is that a thing that cons allow?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 8 22:42:29 2017 No.9313607 >>9313586 Depends on the con. why don't you email the Convention heads

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 8 22:49:05 2017 No.9313619 >>9313586 probably ok if its not a juried con, but yeah email and ask

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 9 01:00:05 2017 No.9313716 File: 1.43 MB, 970x806, Screen Shot 2017-01-09 at 12.58.57 AM.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Anyone know where I could get a cheap bookmark display? Or even how to make one? I couldn't find one for under 30$ :/

Anonymous Mon Jan 9 02:38:28 2017 No.9313773

>>9313716
Just make one with a picture frame or something, be creative with it. you are an artist so why not make your own display, just pinterest portable displays and adjust it to however you want.

it's nothing against you but I feel like a lot of artists in AA needs to be hand held thru everything. when most of it is just common sense? like this whole profession is about being creative and yet I feel like no one's willing to do it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 9 03:16:28 2017 No.9313787 >>9313716 i concur with >>9313773 but also suggest getting a brochure/pamphlet display - you could probably get one cheaply off ebay - and then you can just use wire to create the bookmark sized pockets?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 9 08:05:01 2017 No.9313903 >>9313773 Im decent at painting but any other craftsman related thing Im terrible at. The next AA im going to is only my 2nd one so im fairly new to the entire thing! But ill check pinterest thank you!

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 9 20:41:01 2017 No.9314522 I might be tabling at A-kon for the first time this year. If I recall correctly, the last location banned stickers? Or am I thinking of another con? If so, it looks like A-kon is moving locations so I wonder if that makes stickers allowed again.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 9 20:49:11 2017 No.9314530 >>9314522 I vaguely remember the sticker ban being for one of the bigger east coast cons, Anime Boston/Otakon or something like that and not A-Kon. I could be wrong though.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 9 21:22:21 2017 No.9314558 >>9314530 Thanks! I tried googling anything about stickers and A-kon and nothing came up so I wanted to double check. Wasn't sure if my google-fu was weak.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 9 22:29:52 2017 No.9314607 >>9314522 Akon states they each have to be poly bagged and within the bags at all times during the con.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 9 22:44:39 2017 No.9314615 >>9314522 their new rules say they must be sealed, and you need to instruct people not to use them on site. This probably means the venue is strict, and people will fuck it up, stickers will be allowed this year but probably not in the future.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 9 23:06:27 2017 No.9314620 >>9314615 This. To some people, telling them they can't do shit is just encouragement. People who would've never bothered to take out stickers during-con will do it for the lulz xD cause they've been told its against the rules.

Anonymous Tue Jan 10 00:52:28 2017 No.9314720

This might be a little off topic, but where do you guys sell your artwork online when you're not doing AAs? I've considered using etsy, but you can get banned for selling things with copyrighted apparently? Yet again I see so many people selling overwatch, mlp, anime related stuff there? Any advice?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 10 00:55:58 2017 No.9314722 >>9314720 tictail

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 10 01:25:19 2017 No.9314745 >>9314620 Akon would honestly be safer just banning stickers outright.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 10 01:38:05 2017 No.9314763 >>9314745 Man what is it with people in Texas and trashing venues?

Anonymous Tue Jan 10 02:20:09 2017 No.9314781

>>9314720
i've seen a few of people do untagged/generic titled storenvy stuff, but generally only if they have a fanbase already that will click on the store link on their social media
otherwise you can just risk it like dozens if not hundreds of others do

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 10 02:29:23 2017 No.9314788 >>9314781 How often do people actually get their stuff taken down off these types of sites? Does anyone know? How much of a risk is this? It's different than selling at cons

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 10 02:44:55 2017 No.9314811 >>9314788 >>9314788 It varies even within the same IP. Some people have gotten away with it longer than others. If you get caught, you'll be sent a notice.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 10 02:52:34 2017 No.9314821 >>9314811 Obviously I won't be doing things like, from disney, but how likely is a company to take down things like, overwatch, MLP, steven universe, etc.? Has anyone here been caught with that?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 10 02:56:21 2017 No.9314829 >>9314821 Yes. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1696MDhNPhrZ0ySZhXkoJnGxb7l1OjW4JsVhu1wKvaWE/edit?usp=sharing

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 10 03:16:53 2017 No.9314849 >>9314829 Wow, just what I needed! Thanks

Anonymous Tue Jan 10 07:05:20 2017 No.9314960

>>9314763
Well this case is just normal anime con shit, not really anything to do with Texas. You get tons of little shitlord weebs that don't understand not to do things like stick up stickers in the con venue and telling them not to do it only makes the issue worse.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 10 07:20:43 2017 No.9314964 >>9314960 How does telling them not to do it make it worse? Just curious what you mean

Anonymous Tue Jan 10 07:38:44 2017 No.9314975

>>9314964
Two reasons:
1. It gives them the idea. Kids that wouldn't have thought to do it are now aware they can and that it isn't allowed, leading to point two.
2. They're teens in that rebellious phase a lot of the time. They can "stick to the man" by sticking their stickers when they were told not to stick stickers. You give it that forbidden fruit appeal by telling them not to.

Anonymous Tue Jan 10 15:04:36 2017 No.9315308

anyone have opinions on text weight vs cover stock for prints? I'd like to switch to 100 lb text for lesss weight when flying, but it seems way too thin, like it would be damaged easily. do customers care, if you sell 100 text has anyone ever said anything to you about it?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 10 15:19:48 2017 No.9315322 >>9315308 Most people don't care about/notice the difference. I used thicker cardstock because I personally would've been grumpy if I had to shell $20 for text weight prints but your average bear isn't well-informed enough about quality to care.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 10 15:42:44 2017 No.9315364 >>9314763 There's something in the water >>9314615 Wasn't there a con where people were sticking stickers all over the hotel hallway walls? Was that Akon last year?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 10 19:31:15 2017 No.9315555 >>9306601 I don't know what this is from, but it is very very cute. I like B a little more than A, but both look good to me.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 10 20:42:10 2017 No.9315619 So I'm messaging via email with Vograce to get my artwork made into charms, and they said to just PayPal them the money and screen shot it and send them a copy through e-mail? Is this normal? My first time dealing with them but it just seems weird.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 10 20:51:13 2017 No.9315622 >>9315619 Totally normal. t. someone who's made about 20 orders with them at this point

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 10 21:07:10 2017 No.9315636 >>9315308 100 is fine I only feel uncomfortable when ti's 60 or 80 lb posters

Anonymous Wed Jan 11 11:01:51 2017 No.9316118

>>9315308
I've always sold 100lb matte text and I've had one person lean over my table without asking to touch my prints and say "oh it's just paper", but i've also had people ask to touch and say "wow it's really nice paper!" so it's a wash. Also I don't really care about a person who touches my shit without asking so i guess i don't really care what they think.

Anonymous Wed Jan 11 12:41:03 2017 No.9316205

Does anyone know how con staff usually feel about weed related items being sold at AA? I have a popular drawing (almost 2k notes on tumblr) of a character smoking weed, I thought it'd turn it into a print. I don't think this would count as 18+? I'mean sure drawings of characters drinking wouldn't count as 18+? I'm sure it varies from con to con, but do any of you sell stuff like that? Any issues? How would I go about asking the con about this?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 11 12:54:59 2017 No.9316212 >>9316205 I'm sure what state you are in matters. Just message the con staff and see what they say.

Anonymous Wed Jan 11 13:07:49 2017 No.9316220

>>9316205
If I were you, I'd label it as 18+ anyway just because it's still such a raw topic for a lot of people (even if it's legal in your state). Like, maybe put a cute sticker over the blunt/bong/whatever when the print is for display or something.
Some cons do have rules about depicting any activity that would be illegal for a minor to partake in though so I'd be double sure to read the fine print for each event you plan to sell at. And seconding >>9316212, just message them and say something like "Am I allowed to sell artwork depicting marijuana usage at your convention?".

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 11 18:22:49 2017 No.9316459 Do your prints get damaged in travel or when youre bagging them?? I bought a couple 100 text prints but I feel like I can hardely pick them up without bending them like a piece of copy paper

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 11 18:32:13 2017 No.9316459,1 Is Otakon super strict about their 50% fan art / 50% original art policy?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 11 22:05:17 2017 No.9316663 A-kon better be worth it if the tables are $300 this year. For as big as they were last year, my sales were shit compared to other cons.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 11 22:36:12 2017 No.9316704 >>9316663 the AA is too big and people use up cash at dealers sadly

Anonymous Wed Jan 11 23:13:05 2017 No.9316731

>>9316663
Seriously, this is one of the biggest jumps in price I've ever seen for an AA. It's even more baffling given that they're switching to jury because I could see a high price being used to deter bad/non-serious artists in a FCFS/lottery setup, but when they're already screening for quality, it makes a lot less sense

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 12 10:26:37 2017 No.9317120 >>9316459 Slightly roll them length-wise (hot dog style) before slipping into the bag. Makes it easier and less prone to creasing.

Anonymous Thu Jan 12 11:00:16 2017 No.9317137

What do you bring to eat to cons? I bring tuna sandwiches and a few snacks, but would like to start bringing other stuff too. Its hard to find many things to bring since you can't warm anything up and you can't bring something super chewy or greasy since you have to be able to talk to people and touch stuff.

Anonymous Thu Jan 12 11:23:02 2017 No.9317148

>>9317137
I used to bring protein bars but then i decided i loved myself and just started eating real breakfast at local restaurants, ordering extra to take to the con or going to a sandwich/pastry place near the con to get food for later. Food runs by friends / neighbors are also good.

Anonymous Thu Jan 12 12:36:34 2017 No.9317216

>>9317137
Depends on the con type? If it's local and we're driving, we'll sometimes grab a burger or breakfast foods to hold us off for the day as our main meal till the con ends. Other days we'll make sandwiches,or I'll bring leftovers I warm up before leaving, so it's edible during lunch. I usually bring veggies like carrots or a veggie tray, fruit tray, veggie chips, cookies, and granola bars. Just a little of everything to snack on, and we usually have a group who attends the con as regular people while some of them help me at my booth in turns, so we have snacks for everyone in our group. I also make sure to being trash bags, napkins, and handsanitizer for cleanup and helps not worrying about a huge mess ( because working with money and people).

We also do the food run thing if we're out of town and want something more meaty, and so far our venues have had some decently priced food places like food trucks or local fast food that's not too far a walk. At the hotel we usually order a pizza or local takeout if we really want more protein and I didn't join a food run during the day. Also bringing water and juice helps. I've even brought slim fast shakes to help keep up energy and be full.

If you don't have buddies to help you make food runs, I hear making friends with neighbors isn't bad, and we've done food runs for our neighbors who don't have booth mates and can't get out.

Anonymous Thu Jan 12 12:54:56 2017 No.9317236

>>9317148
>>9317216
eating out 3 days in a row for 2 or 3 meals a day? Thats way too expensive for me. I normally eat out on one day after the con and have left overs for the next night, but eating out for every meal would be too much.

I guess I should have clarified, what cheap meals do you bring to eat during the con.

Anonymous Thu Jan 12 13:08:24 2017 No.9317246

>>9317236
I didn't say I eat out everyday lol, and I don't eat out 2/3 times a day for 3 days straight. These are options, to be paired with others. Mix and match meal plan.

I even said I bring leftovers, and if I didn't do a food run during the day, I'll join one at night.
Not do both. That's nuts.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 12 13:37:29 2017 No.9317280 File: 403 KB, 2221x1500, cliff-bar.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9317137 Clif bars. They keep you full and taste pretty good for that sort of food bar.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 12 14:14:12 2017 No.9317317 >>9317280 you're right, I've had those before, they're great. I'll stock up on those.

Anonymous Thu Jan 12 14:26:40 2017 No.9317326

>>9317236
I actually do eat out every day for almost every meal at cons haha. I understand that's a lot of money if you're new to cons though.

I've brought cliff bars before, but because i need protein more than carbs i switched to quest bars (or substitute any other good tasting protein bar). I would also bring small bagged snacks like chips or pre-peeled/segmented fruits like oranges (i mean only good for the first day really but whatever) and cookies. like a box of thin mints.

Honestly look back, that was a really bad diet but since it was only a couple days a month it was fine over all i guess.

Anonymous Thu Jan 12 14:42:58 2017 No.9317351

>>9316731
I think it's still to deter less serious artists- imagine the number of applications they're going to have to go through. I'm sure it's just to pare down the numbers, and potentially get through the waitlist faster (if people apply, get in, and decide $300 is too much after all).
>>9316704
I really didn't find this to be the case last year, it was my best con and almost everyone I spoke to agreed.

Anonymous Thu Jan 12 14:59:18 2017 No.9317361
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>>9317137
I have hella allergies, so I can't eat out at all.

At the con I rely a lot on nuts and peanut butter sandwiches. I also really like Bobo Bars, the fruity ones are really good and actually have decent food value (the non fruity ones are a bit too dry). I like bananas because they're easy to scarf down, even if peels are annoying.

I get a pack of something to shove in the microwave at the hotel for meaty food value at night. My current favorite are costco tamales. That of course only works if you have a minifridge or a cooler.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 12 15:24:05 2017 No.9317374 >>9307328 That looks like shit leo Flipper hands and the christmas lights filling in blank space and wasting acrylic,

Anonymous Thu Jan 12 15:39:23 2017 No.9317398

>>9317137
I usually eat something light from a restaurant because warm food is comfy, or if I'm at a hotel with breakfast I bring some of it in a tupperware. If I'm driving locally I sometimes stop by a bakery in the morning and get a few fresh buns and a coffee. What my friends used to do years ago (our group was like 10 tables sitting together) was that one person of the group who was an avid chef would make a ton of food like fried rice and dumplings and we'd pay her to have fresh food all weekend.

As for snacks, I like dried fruits and small crackers, stuff that isn't messy. And a ton of water/Gatorade.

Anonymous Thu Jan 12 17:00:22 2017 No.9317488

>>9317137

I'm a bit extreme on the frugal side and I bring my rice cooker to hotels so I can have rice and steamed vegetables in the morning/night. Midday is peanut butter and honey sandwiches, nuts, dried fruit, coconut milk. Stuff that stores easy.

To be honest, I kinda just go hungry most of the time so I don't have to spend money eating out, and when I do go out I'll order off the value menu of a fast food place.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 12 17:07:15 2017 No.9317493 >>9317488 you sound like my type of person.

Anonymous Thu Jan 12 18:02:52 2017 No.9317542
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How much does it usually cost to get an artist booth at a con? I'm thinking about having a merch booth this year idunno if it's worth it. My stuff isn't straight up "anime" nor would you think is anime at first glance persay but there's certainly minor influences there forsure. What should I focus on?

HELP.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 12 18:05:38 2017 No.9317543 File: 40 KB, 640x568, too_true_20(2)~2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9317542 Also, I'm thinking AX, LA Comic Con, Camikaze, SD Comic Con (my hopes aren't too high for SD tho)

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 12 18:52:57 2017 No.9317580 >>9317542 https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/13o7hD5xS3sDqVptnTVGUlRae3ovEE-vPPST_QOrQwtM/

Anonymous Thu Jan 12 20:32:05 2017 No.9317666

>>9317542
>>9317543
You should aim lower if you can't be bothered looking up prices yourself. Tabling at a con takes a lot of preparation and you won't risk as much tabling at a smaller convention for your first time. You'll gain a better understanding of what works for you and what you need with your experience gained.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 12 20:42:29 2017 No.9317672 >>9317542 Prices vary, depending on the con and how much you're willing to spend on prep. >>9317666 Anon here is right. If you don't know aim lower. Also posting samples of your work can give us ideas of where you are.

Anonymous Fri Jan 13 01:18:17 2017 No.9317861

>>9314720
If you have a big following, Tictail is excellent because you can drive customers there from ur own site with 0 fees. Etsy is super nice if you don't have the marketing power on your own. I avoided Etsy for a long time because of their listing fees. But I opened my shop for the first time for Black Friday/Christmas season a few months ago and made like $6k in 2 months. Don't underestimate the normies/clueless family members who shop on Etsy for their weeb children/grandchildren.

The only downside is dealing with clueless people who don't understand that you're not a huge corporation.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 13 03:54:55 2017 No.9317983 >>9317137 Tuna sandwiches? C'mon, that's gotta stink up part of the vendor's hall.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 13 05:18:56 2017 No.9318004 Has anyone here vended at EQLA or Califur? Any tips on what I can expect?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 13 11:18:26 2017 No.9318187 >>9317137 I live off Starbucks. I get a large cold brew and a sandwich and maybe a kind bar and it fills me up the whole day on $12

Anonymous Fri Jan 13 14:10:27 2017 No.9318321
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Does anyone have any idea where I can get these dakimakura key chains made? at all? I've been wanting to order some with my art but I can't find anywhere to have them made?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 13 15:39:06 2017 No.9318416 >>9318321 this should be available basically anywhere, as they are rectangles.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 13 16:50:37 2017 No.9318506 >>9317861 Correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't Tictail does 10% of your sales each month? It's true that Tictail has no start-up or reoccurring fees (if you have no sales).

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 13 16:51:07 2017 No.9318507 >>9318416 That's what I thought but when I look up "custom dakimakura keychain" and nothing really comes up except people selling their own, 'pillow keychain- doesn't really have any results either..

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 13 16:51:40 2017 No.9318508 >>9318506 doesn't Tictail take oop

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 13 23:56:39 2017 No.9318917 >>9318506 I'm pretty sure it doesn't, but I haven't opened mine up since September so it could have changed since then.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 14 00:50:11 2017 No.9318966 >>9318507 look up rectangular keychains, fool.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 14 02:41:39 2017 No.9319029 >>9318966 Not even that anon who asked, but rectangular keychains won't work because they are literally looking to print on tiny pillows.

Anonymous Sat Jan 14 12:11:29 2017 No.9319284

>>9318506
only sales made through their marketplace, but the shitty thing is that once someone bought something from you through the marketplace every sale they ever make even if it's through your store link, tictail will take a % from the sale, so they practically own that customer because they helped you gain them.

Anonymous Sat Jan 14 14:11:44 2017 No.9319390
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>>9306090
This is how I feel about this artist. She's been around for what feels like a decade. I've run into her at so many cons. Her art is garbage but she keeps going into artist alley so I guess something is going right for her.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 14 14:19:56 2017 No.9319394 >>9319390 As if the chibi weren't bad enough, that poor fucking banner at the bottom...

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 14 14:44:23 2017 No.9319406 >>9319390 Is this a misprint? It's so translucent it looks like the white layer is missing

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 14 14:50:34 2017 No.9319417 Anyone have any suggestions on displaying zines? I only have about 4-5. I'd like to let people flip through them.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 14 15:07:09 2017 No.9319435 >>9319406 It's probably through vograce. Their white layer is pretty cheap/thin especially when you have the black mouth on skintone.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 14 15:18:54 2017 No.9319440 >>9319435 >>9319406 Yea their clear charms are always a little see-through. >>9319394 It is so sad.

Anonymous Sat Jan 14 16:39:45 2017 No.9319497

>>9318004
I haven't vended but I did attend Califur last year. It's just a normal small con; people like to talk to vendors but have lots of cash. I guess if you've never been to a furry convention, just expect an older and primarily male crowd and people wanting something to represent their character if not a custom commission of them outright.

Anonymous Sat Jan 14 16:45:12 2017 No.9319502

>>9318321
I personally was looking high and low for the same exact thing but was struggling to find where people have got them printed. I know someone on etsy sells these but with their own art.

Since you brought it up again I'm back to searching and will let you know if I find anything.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 14 16:50:02 2017 No.9319508 >>9319502 I searched high enough this time I guess lmao >https://wholesaler.alibaba.com/product-detail/custom-phone-charm-printed-key-chain_60280339550.html

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 14 22:51:24 2017 No.9319749 >>9319508 wow, that shit is too extra

Anonymous Sat Jan 14 23:50:08 2017 No.9319797
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>>9319417
If you want something simple and flexible, I usually have like half a table of various books and I use these. They fold up and travel well and generally people understand that they're allowed to pick up and flip through. Another thing I do is to actually put a small stack of each book underneath the stand, so they can flip through but they see the other copies right there. For some reason people seeing a stack of books instead of just the one display copy seems to increase sales, don't ask me about the psychology there.

Here's a link, but there's a lot of other options on there if you want something fancier: https://www.amazon.com/Gibson-Holders-2-Wire-Display-12-Pack/dp/B00NEDHOJA/

I've also seen people use something like this, but a small tabletop version: https://www.amazon.com/Steffy-Wood-Products-Book-Display/dp/B008FLBANW It looks nice but is more work to transport.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 15 02:13:32 2017 No.9319886 Looking into enamel pins, but Zap doesn't have Rose Gold plated, anyone have any leads for when I can find a supplier for that?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 15 11:50:54 2017 No.9320210 >>9319886 in all my research i havnt found anything. closest you'll get is maybe copper.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 15 12:50:45 2017 No.9320271 Anybody else completely striking out on applying for cons with lottery? I'm 0/2 Anime Boston and ACEN so far and my bad luck is bumming me out.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 15 13:11:27 2017 No.9320293 >>9320271 Yep, so far haven't gotten into a single con with lottery. that RNG man. I hope all large cons switch to using Juries.

Anonymous Sun Jan 15 15:55:30 2017 No.9320457

>>9319797
Those are 20 bucks on Amazon? I suggest you check out a Daiso if you're near one. They have similar ones for 1.50.

I'm worried about lack of space but I guess this is the best option since the wood one looks much too big.

Thanks for the recommendations.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 15 17:58:16 2017 No.9320587 Where would be a good place to get keychains made?also how much does it usually cost to get some made and how much would I need to talk to the seller for no misprints to happen? I'm a newbie ,sorry for all the questions

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 15 18:17:39 2017 No.9320610 Can someone give me a price range for ordering keychains on vograce?I want to order some but wanna know how much it'll be

Anonymous Sun Jan 15 18:38:37 2017 No.9320644

>>9320587
Please read OP post. Has a list of all the resources/links for making different merch and charms. Most places that offer charm printing give you prices up front with the exception of Vograce. Send them an inquiry if you want a specific number.

>>9320610
What are you looking to order? Clear charms? Double sided single sided? It'd help if you were a little more specific

Anonymous Sun Jan 15 18:43:29 2017 No.9320650

>>9320587
I feel like you didn't even try before typing.

>>9320271
Yeah I feel you, was waiting to hear from ACEN since December and had to send a follow up email because i never heard if i got in or not and they finally responded saying sorry I didn't get in.

Anonymous Sun Jan 15 19:02:58 2017 No.9320670

>>9320457

It's a 12 pack anon... that's why it's $20.

>>9320644

I usually do double sided, the acrylic paper sandwich style, 2" and they're between $0.50 - $0.80 for me depending on my total quantity. I usually order about 100 charms but have gone as low as 50 in some orders. With shipping they end up costing a little over $1 each.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 15 20:59:58 2017 No.9320785 >>9320271 it's not really bad luck for not getting into two of the biggest con, competition is crazy don't feel bad about it

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 15 21:01:26 2017 No.9320786 >>9320587 open your mouth and let me spoon feed it to you

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 15 23:35:55 2017 No.9320945 Did everyone get that AB email just now, or just people that didn't make it in? I paid for my table and everything so I'm really confused.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 16 06:10:11 2017 No.9321219 >>9320670 Holy shit I'm a fucking idiot. Thanks lol

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 16 18:43:26 2017 No.9321900 does anyone have any recommendations for phone chargers? they seem to be commonly used by people who table.

Anonymous Tue Jan 17 01:18:40 2017 No.9322271

>>9321900
I use easyacc powerbank that has 4 USB --- they make lesser powered ones. The model I got is very efficient and great charge, though definitely excessive for one phone as I could use this to charge my phone for almost a week without having to plug in. I only got it to charge multiple devices in case.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 17 04:07:25 2017 No.9322361 >>9321900 I use the Anker powercore 10000. The build is solid, comes with a cable and carrying case. There's other models with different amount of USBs and capacities.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 17 04:45:43 2017 No.9322380 >>9319508 Holy shit! Thanks dude

>>	Corky-Lunn !CorkyloMxc Tue Jan 17 09:02:05 2017 No.9322483 new thread >>9322482

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