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Lolita General Anonymous Sun Nov 20 03:49:08 2016 No.9261390 [Reply] [Original]

Guess who's back edition.

Previous thread: >>9245570

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 20 03:53:27 2016 No.9261397 >>9261390 i had no idea that site sold foreign brands, how did i miss that this whole time? is it a new feature? >tfw always obsessively click every link on a page and still somehow missed this

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 20 08:34:07 2016 No.9261500 Can anyone explain to me why so many people spent 140usd to get a ticket for omnia vanitas when they haven't even announced a brand guest?

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 20 10:02:45 2016 No.9261534 >>9261397 Yeah they sell more than one brand, including their own. I know there actually are a lot of brand sites that sell things outside their brand, Listen Flavor does too but they ain't lolita

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 20 10:12:25 2016 No.9261538 >>9261500 Kira Imai, and good reputation of previous SFE events.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 20 10:17:54 2016 No.9261543 >>9261500 Because people make different financial choices than you on the daily

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 20 10:26:11 2016 No.9261548 >>9261543 >Women make worse financial choices on the daily fix'd

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 20 10:32:39 2016 No.9261550 I'm curious - everyone on cgl seems to lose their absolute shit when a lolita is smoking, but what do gulls think about vaping? is smoking unacceptable because of the smell or the fire hazard, or just because it's 'unfitting of a lolita'?

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 20 10:35:35 2016 No.9261551 >>9261550 It's douchy in or out of lolita >>9261548 2/10 bait

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 20 10:36:19 2016 No.9261552 >>9261550 Vaping is gross, lolita or not.

Anonymous Sun Nov 20 10:58:50 2016 No.9261563

>>9261551
douchey is a character trait though, and while it can be true for a load of vapers it doesn't exactly answer my question. I'd call one of those permanent-smoke-cloud-that-doesn't-care-about-people-around-them vapers out no matter what they're wearing

>>9261552
what makes it gross though? vape smoke is really basically just nice smelling water vapour. just the idea of it or the part where it's still consuming nicotine or what?

Anonymous Sun Nov 20 11:06:11 2016 No.9261567
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>>9261550
>>9261563
i see both smoking and vaping as bad habits that didn't need to begin in the first place. the only reason people "need to smoke"/"need to vape" is because they started.

and as a total elitist, i judge people hard (lolita or otherwise) for having such poor self-control.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 20 11:11:13 2016 No.9261569 >>9261563 >what makes it gross though? vape smoke is really basically just nice smelling water vapour Some people don't enjoy the idea of having to inhale other people's misty spit in close quarters

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 20 11:28:23 2016 No.9261578 >>9261569 >Misty Spit Sounds like a new AP dress

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 20 11:31:39 2016 No.9261580 >>9261390 odip is still gone, for some reason some distributors still got hella extra stock of their petticoats (which are really great btw)

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 20 11:36:06 2016 No.9261583 >>9261563 It's gross because vape smoke is still carcinogenic.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 20 12:02:22 2016 No.9261607 >>9261567 >>9261569 >>9261583 alright, fair enough. interesting, thanks

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 20 12:13:34 2016 No.9261618 >>9261543 I'm asking because normally they announce the special guest for the teaparty before ticket sale starts and there's nothing to indicate that there will even be one this time

Anonymous Sun Nov 20 12:17:10 2016 No.9261622

>>9261550
It's gross and annoying to do it in front of other people. If you're not a douche I wouldn't even need to know you smoke to begin with (unless you're one of those people who needs to do it every hour so you need to tell people why you disappear all the time)

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 20 12:44:27 2016 No.9261635 Which indie brands do lucky packs and how are they announced? Like Physical Drop, Seraphim, Moon Afternoon etc..?

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 20 12:46:09 2016 No.9261639 >>9261567 You, I like you.

Anonymous Sun Nov 20 13:09:12 2016 No.9261656

>>9261567

I consider most smokers weak self-centered assholes. I have sympathy for people who've been addicted for like 20 years, but with young smokers you just know that they started it out of desperation to seem cool and edgy and sociable.
Plus they're ALWAYS convinced that they don't smell while people around them are gagging, or even worse, try masking it with ridiculous amounts of perfume. Who'd want to endure that for an entire meet while stuck in a cramped cafe?

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 20 13:37:31 2016 No.9261676 >>9261578 Underrated post

Anonymous Sun Nov 20 14:32:03 2016 No.9261727
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>>9261534
i knew about the other brands but do not remember them carrying foreign/overseas brands. that is kind of cool, and i wonder how they got the items?

>pic semiunrelated

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 20 16:51:29 2016 No.9261859 Might be a stupid question, but does anyone know if there's like a master Google doc of all the Lolita brands (main and indie) including second hand sites? Kinda like what hellolace used to have. Thanks in advance

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 20 18:04:57 2016 No.9261932 >>9261727 hoverloli lol i wonder if this was intentional or they forgot

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 20 18:16:55 2016 No.9261940 >>9261567 are you me?

Anonymous Sun Nov 20 19:58:53 2016 No.9262035

>>9261550
The smell straight up reeks to me. If you smell bad, I automatically think less of you. If you smell bad and are trying to look elegant or cute, it just doesn't work and I'm not even one of those "~lolitas need to be lovelies~" types.
Most smokers I know are oblivious to it or just don't give a damn if it bothers others, which isn't a good trait to have socially.

Anonymous Sun Nov 20 20:02:08 2016 No.9262039

>>9261622
>If you're not a douche I wouldn't even need to know you smoke to begin with

This. I smoke cigarettes, only at home on my patio, never in lolita, and nobody has any idea. At meets I'm too busy socializing to want one. It came up at a meet once, and nobody had any idea that I do. Obviously i need to quit, but it's not hard to not be gross about it.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 20 20:23:05 2016 No.9262064 >>9261550 My bf vapes and I don't mind it. I think it smells kinda nice and the smell goes away almost immediately.

Anonymous Sun Nov 20 22:45:47 2016 No.9262211

>>9261859

No one can keep up with the taobao brands. They've slowed down considerably now, which means a new store every few months instead of every few weeks.

The older ones go out of business fairly unpredictably, too. Anyone knows what's happening with Lorina Liddell?

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 20 23:16:59 2016 No.9262252 File: 576 KB, 1386x924, vape naysh.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9261550 >but what do gulls think about vaping? The aesthetics don't really work together. Plus, vaping just looks immature and stupid. Smoke is gross.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 20 23:40:53 2016 No.9262286 >>9261550 I'd say the reason why smoking in Lolita is unacceptable because it ruins the dresses.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 20 23:44:48 2016 No.9262292 >>9262286 what about vaping

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 20 23:47:57 2016 No.9262301 >>9261550 degenerate.

Anonymous Mon Nov 21 04:27:14 2016 No.9262545

>>9261550

To be really fair, I don't think this is limited to lolita alone. A lot of places have gone smoke-free, with maybe some dedicated smoking areas for smokers. So it's not really that specifically lolitas go apeshit over smokers, it's more like most people just don't like secondhand smoke, period.

>>9262292

Sorta in a similar vein, some of my town councils put vaping under the same laws as smoking, as inconsiderate hipsters were whipping these things out and puffing away in very old heritage buildings, despite the no smoking signs, since "vaping isn't smoking". There was no research to back up that the steam did any harm, their logic is that by the time someone proved it did they'd have to deal with much heavier repair work so it's better to ban it until it's proven harmless.

Granted, we're talking very old buildings, some with original wallpaper, so the steam itself was probably harmful. Still, the liquids themselves can contain unknown chemicals, and some of them contain food coloring. I can't really imagine you'd want that all over your burando.

Anonymous Mon Nov 21 11:54:15 2016 No.9262745

>>9262286
Exactly. On a practical level it just doesn't go with Lolita. Just like paintball doesn't go with Lolita and Cheetos; you can say we're being uppity but really it just doesn't make sense to pair things with the fashion that essentially ruins the items. Lolita is the clothes, literally, so ruining your clothes is literally anti-Lolita in concept.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 21 12:00:44 2016 No.9262752 this is so trivial but >you've finally got enough in your account to buy astro regimen >but should you

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 21 12:51:57 2016 No.9262790 >>9262752 Well, if you're after the OP or the sax colourway, I think it'll go on sale, so you should probably hold out. Wine is debateable, I'm surprised the chinese lolitas didn't buy that one out first.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 21 13:43:58 2016 No.9262842 File: 376 KB, 1144x1200, CxxSmU1UAAAHDLn.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] To Alice did open their first brand store in Harajuku after the huge success with japanese resellers.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 21 14:02:59 2016 No.9262855 gulls, how do you justify/choose your novelty purses? i have 5-6 of them which really only suit one print and i keep eyeing more. admittedly, i do wear them whenever i feel like it BUT i still feel like i should have a limit.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 21 14:24:08 2016 No.9262878 File: 33 KB, 523x451, wtf.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Please, has anyone seen it? Gosh.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 21 14:45:32 2016 No.9262894 >>9262211 I was going to ask about Lorina Liddell as well. I always really loved ordering from them.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 21 14:56:20 2016 No.9262907 File: 130 KB, 2048x1608, 15156925_1087197384726105_7009267087019176305_o.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9262878 close up of the print. Best thing: Girl that posted it studies fashion design.

Anonymous Mon Nov 21 15:22:36 2016 No.9262948

>>9262855

You'll run out of wardrobe space eventually, so imo as long as you can still find a spot to store your newest purchases you should be fine. As long as you don't go down the hoarders route where you have to start boxing things up and can't remember exactly where all your purses are, at least.

For me, I have a soft spot for soft plush toy bags, but at least I tell myself they double up as pretty cute plushies if I need to hug them. Besides, some, like the Usakumyas, go with more than just their own print, Usakumya is so commonly seen with any sweet lolita outfit that no one really raises a fuss about whether or not you're wearing an Usakumya dress or not. It's probably possible to do the same with AP's plush bags, or at least coord them with solids.

In the same vein, if you think having one dress per bag seems silly, I suppose you could make it a point to buy more dresses for each bag? Or, at least if you have (for eg) two bear dresses and two bear bags, it still means each bag can be coorded with two dresses and not one dress per bag. Admittedly it's a bit of a mental stretch, but it does mean you have more choices coording your dress with two possible bags instead of one.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 21 15:26:35 2016 No.9262954 >>9262907 >thinking fashion design = illustrator = textile designer you have no idea.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 21 15:27:38 2016 No.9262956 >>9262292 have fun with your popcorn lungs

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 21 15:41:42 2016 No.9262984 File: 7 KB, 455x106, 2525.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9262211 >>9262894 They closed after the designer running away with everyone's money.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 21 15:50:44 2016 No.9262996 >>9262954 don't get me wrong there, somebody studying fashion design should at least have enough jugdement to see that this is bad.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 21 15:53:56 2016 No.9263001 >>9262996 you'd be surprised. you know how an indie print can be gorgeous but then the designer doesn't know diddly about garment design? same thing.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 21 18:04:11 2016 No.9263131 >>9262907 This is so unfortunate, if it does get printed it would be such a waste of material.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 21 18:09:01 2016 No.9263142 >>9262878 I know that it probably sounds/looks different in Portuguese, but Bitchin-Hoe bobo is a very interesting name for a lolita brand.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 21 18:22:32 2016 No.9263152 >>9262907 Strong comic sans on that clock there

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 21 18:24:24 2016 No.9263155 >>9262907 SILENCIO this is so fucking awful. was this posted on FB or something? i really hope somebody offers her advice

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 21 19:25:41 2016 No.9263230 >>9262984 Damn, really? I thought they were reopening. That sucks.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 21 19:31:55 2016 No.9263234 >>9263142 >Bitchin-Hoe bobo Sounds like a clown with an interesting backstory

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 21 19:57:45 2016 No.9263263 >>9263155 On lolita update. She didnt ask for con-crit, so... Guess Life Will teach her.

Anonymous Mon Nov 21 21:13:34 2016 No.9263356

Anyone else get an IW Christmas lucky pack? I just got mine today. Kinda meh, but mostly because the fit isn't that great for me. Great classic pack, though.

I got Emblem Flare JSK in wine and Treble Clef embroidery blouse in ivoryxbrown along with a matching hair accessory and OTKs

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 21 21:27:32 2016 No.9263370 >>9263356 That's a cute JSK, anon! What about the fit isn't working out for you?

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 21 21:39:17 2016 No.9263387 >>9263370 It's a bit tight, even with the shirring, but aside from that it's a bit short for my tastes, especially with a petti underneath. It pains me to sell it, because it's a perfect match with the OTK's and hair accessories.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 21 21:46:58 2016 No.9263401 >>9262752 I love the print but wish I had the shirred jsk

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 21 22:32:32 2016 No.9263476 >>9262984 Holy shit. Thanks for the update, anon. Totally missed this happening.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 21 23:07:01 2016 No.9263534 >>9263234 This made me laugh incredibly hard. Thank you, anon.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 00:40:21 2016 No.9263644 How long should I wait before I give up on an LM seller replying to my messages? I'm trying to buy a Christmas present which is fairly time sensitive, and it's been just over 4 days. Am I being impatient?

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 01:23:00 2016 No.9263674 >>9262984 designer? I don't remember them having their own brand. I may be wrong, but I thought it was a reseller. I miss them so much!

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 01:54:27 2016 No.9263700 >>9262855 I only buy one per print. Which means that I have like 5 cat bags because 5 cat prints.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 02:59:15 2016 No.9263746 Playan Pokemon Moon and decided to name my Litwick Holy Lantern. Feels cute, man.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 03:02:11 2016 No.9263748 >>9263746 that's super cringy mine is Ophelia

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 03:02:57 2016 No.9263752 >>9263746 Cute! I named my Gothitelle Manasama.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 03:04:41 2016 No.9263755 >>9262855 Books go with everything and come in all sorts of different designs which subtly go with all sorts of coordinates in different ways. Thus, I have 6 brand bag purses.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 03:08:13 2016 No.9263757 >>9261550 I don't care if people vape in front of me - smoking is another matter.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 03:11:20 2016 No.9263758 >>9263757 I care because I don't want to breathe in their cancerous vapor.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 03:18:13 2016 No.9263762 >>9262855 I prefer to buy bags that can follow general themes and thus be used with a variety of dresses. This is easier for me than the average sweet gull because I wear a lot of non-print gothic / casual.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 03:21:12 2016 No.9263764 >>9263758 True, but I'm not typically right next to people when they vape - I intentionally move my ass away so that the vapour dissipates enough that if I did breathe any in, it would be so dilute I wouldn't be concerned.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 03:26:32 2016 No.9263768 >>9263764 >intentionally move away from vapers ...... that's not not caring, anon

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 03:27:43 2016 No.9263769 >>9263768 Your grammar is terrible.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 03:36:47 2016 No.9263774 >>9263769 it's not not true

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 03:38:30 2016 No.9263775 >>9261727 They contact the company and import it. Usually they'll ask if they can get a wholesale price because otherwise they have to jack up the prices.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 03:54:29 2016 No.9263782 >>9262878 I was going to click "like" when I saw this as I thought it was posted in the lolita humour page as a joke. Oh dear.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 03:59:21 2016 No.9263784 >>9261578 Would buy/ design 10/10

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 04:01:06 2016 No.9263785 >>9261622 THIS. I'm a smoker (pot, not ciggies) and I would never smoke around someone who wouldn't want me to. I can't take the smell of tobacco and it gives me mad headaches so it should just be etiquette.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 04:05:54 2016 No.9263790 >>9262907 God, it just gets worse the longer you look, ouch

Anonymous Tue Nov 22 07:27:35 2016 No.9263859

Really frustrated with Surface Spell. Ordered a hat 7 weeks ago and they said 1-2 weeks and no more. 2 weeks go by and I ask if it's finished. Say they'll send it next week. 4 more weeks go by and now they haven't responded to the last message. I just want my hat.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 08:32:37 2016 No.9263894 >>9263859 It's been long enough that you can tell them outright you're going to file a chargeback if you don't get confirmation it's been shipped.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 11:58:26 2016 No.9264054 File: 121 KB, 710x358, 11222224_58344710e1f9b.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] are these already the new years happy packs?

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 11:59:31 2016 No.9264057 File: 106 KB, 842x595, Cx39gjkUsAAj7ji.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9264054 Pic posted by AP tokyo. These seem really cheap, what kind of Luck Packs are those?

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 12:07:58 2016 No.9264073 >>9264057 Accessories.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 12:26:58 2016 No.9264099 >>9264057 >>9264073 One piece or jumperskirt 3 piece set. One item is original print.

Anonymous Tue Nov 22 12:32:57 2016 No.9264111

>>9264054
>>9264057

The Dolly Cute banner specifically says "Labour Day Happy Campaign", so I guess not New Years. AP doesn't always do blind LPs for New Years though, so this might be your only chance.

As for the contents, it's 3 onepieces or jumperskirts. The Dolly Cute banner says 1 item will be an original print, blue doesn't specify how many.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 15:40:56 2016 No.9264274 File: 59 KB, 564x563, 1afa137d8dc7a14b3430c761c2d8d887.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9262878 Speaking of nurse prints, are there any good nurse/hospital prints that aren't rare or hard to get either in stock or second hand?

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 15:58:01 2016 No.9264294 >>9264274 Royal Princess Alice, everything is forever in stock due to the "one size only" thing

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 16:02:37 2016 No.9264307 >>9264294 Thanks anon. A bit more nun-looking than nurse (aside from the medical symbol) but it's a good place for me to start.

Anonymous Tue Nov 22 17:29:34 2016 No.9264390

>>9263859
whoa, unless the hat is ready-made Surface Spell has always been one of those brands that takes 40 or so days not counting weekends. I can't imagine you read 1-2 weeks correctly.
If it really was 2 weeks max, I am shocked and will stand corrected.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 17:31:25 2016 No.9264391 >>9263859 >>9264390 was the original purchase directly from them, through taobao, or via a reseller? it may be the fault of the reseller misquoting the wait time.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 17:37:53 2016 No.9264402 >>9263752 OMG MINE TOO Not super original ik but still cool to find another one

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 17:40:47 2016 No.9264408 IW had their BF happy packs out, 80000JPY contains all kinds of random stuff worth 400000+... Just wondering what they'd put inside to make it worth 400000+

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 17:44:56 2016 No.9264414 >>9263859 I've heard a lot of people complained about it, the gothic sub-brand is even worse

Anonymous Tue Nov 22 20:51:35 2016 No.9264549

>>9264390
>>9264391
I ordered from their taobao and my SS asked "They said it'll be a week or two. Is it okay?" Unless they somehow screwed up weeks and months. But late last week I asked my SS to follow up again and Surface Spell hasn't responded to that message.

Anonymous Tue Nov 22 22:43:49 2016 No.9264632

I think I've built up my "dream wardrobe" so to speak. I own all of my dream dresses, most of my wishlist items, and I'm running out of space in my wardrobe, but I'm to the point where there's not much I really want to part with. Aside from things I'd like to add like shoes, new blouses, bags and accessories, I'm extremely happy with where my wardrobe is right now.

Anyone else reach this point? How long did it take for you to get there? What now? Did you end up getting bored with the fashion?

Anonymous Tue Nov 22 22:52:42 2016 No.9264638

>>9264632
I think I am around the same. The only thing I look at are new releases anyways. I don't think I am bored with it though since I don't get to wear it that often (only outside of work).

I am branching out to otome at bit, but it's harder to get into than I thought. For one thing it's more expensive.

Anonymous Tue Nov 22 23:56:09 2016 No.9264697

>>9262855
i get a lot of the more simple bags, heart shape, round, star, etc
theyre interesting enough to draw interest but not so crazy that they cant be versatile. if i were to get a more interesting bag itd probably be white, goes with so much more that way

Anonymous Wed Nov 23 01:03:09 2016 No.9264738

>>9264408

If you mean their B grade oddments pack, it has like 10+ main pieces and similar number of blouses, plus bags, accessories, the odd shoes and coat. Could probably use the box they ship it in to sleep in, too.

No idea about "BF" happy pack, though.

Anonymous Wed Nov 23 04:01:25 2016 No.9264849

>>9264057
I'm more into classic but would like a basic solid dress in sweet, do yall think it would be worth ordering and getting rid of the ones I'm not interested in? I doubt I could turn a profit or anything with shipping and poss customs, but how much do blind bag dresses from AP usually sell from?

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 23 15:19:38 2016 No.9265300 >>9262252 >wine accents and pink cameo window? >the girl on the right >stringy braids Choices It's one of those photos that looks fine until you look individually at every single person.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 23 15:43:53 2016 No.9265309 >>9261578 Misty skies and a banana split theme sounds amazing.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 23 17:06:37 2016 No.9265390 >>9263401 Tried on the special set that had shirring, it was a good fit but the lavender shades were so muddy. I hope someday they'll release it with the original colors...

Anonymous Wed Nov 23 18:40:41 2016 No.9265481
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Am I the only one who likes the Diamond Honey knock off bag better than AP's actual melty berry bag?
I don't know why exactly, maybe because the pink drippy is on the bottom

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 23 18:45:38 2016 No.9265483 >>9261550 stinky not cute

Anonymous Wed Nov 23 19:26:30 2016 No.9265516

>>9264632
I'm almost there. There are only a handful of wishlist items I'm actively looking for anymore, and aside from what I currently have up in sales, I can't imagine parting with anything else in my closet. But I'm pretty picky and think my wardrobe is going to max out at maybe twenty main pieces unless new releases start intriguing me far more than they have for a while.

I've only been in the fashion for a couple years, but I've been lucky enough to find a lot of dream dresses very quickly and am old enough that my tastes in fashion are pretty much concrete, so I didn't really go through the newcomer transitioning of substyles phase. I don't see myself getting bored with the fashion any time soon.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 24 00:17:41 2016 No.9265766 >>9263401 Nah I have the frill/shirred jsk and i love it so much lol. The fit is so comfortable and the frills are adorb.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 24 07:30:37 2016 No.9265937 >>9265390 Dang, really? Just bought the set because I liked the colours in the stock photos. Here's hoping it at least looks all right with my skintone.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 24 09:22:30 2016 No.9265980 Say you bought a dress when you were new not realizing how bad replica dresses are for the market. Would you still wear it to a meet?

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 24 10:12:23 2016 No.9265995 >>9265980 No, you will get so much shit.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 24 10:19:31 2016 No.9265999 File: 3 KB, 167x120, 13516605_247614842286739_7575470053321618848_n.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9265980 >wearing a replica to a meet >wearing a replica in public

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 24 10:28:11 2016 No.9266005 Does Metamorphose have you pay for preorders when you order, or closer to release date?

Anonymous Thu Nov 24 10:29:03 2016 No.9266006

>>9265980
I think it really depends on what you bought.
>No one really seems to mind Bodyline replicas. Sometime new Lolitas buy them with out even knowing its a replica. Bodyline doesn't even make alot of replicas anymore.
>Dream of Lolita is bad quality with errors/splotchs/ect on the print, And just overall bad quality fabric,lace and buttons. DoL replicas are more common making it more obvious that its a replica.
>Oo Jia's probably your best bet as far as replicas go. I takes them a while to make the dresses but the quality is somewhat passable.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 24 10:29:51 2016 No.9266007 >>9266005 >preorder >pre

Anonymous Thu Nov 24 10:46:08 2016 No.9266016

>>9266007
Their wording is a little difficult, but nvm they cleared it up in a notice.

"You do not need to pay ahead of time. You need to purchase in a week from arrival notice from us."

Arrival notice could of been confirmation email or when the dresses arrived in stock.

Snowy Rabbit hype.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 24 10:58:30 2016 No.9266031 >>9265980 No. Sell it on eBay or trash/donate it. >>9266006 Even if it's a 'passable' replica it's still not socially acceptable to wear it to a meetup.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 24 11:31:45 2016 No.9266071 >>9261550 cigars

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 24 11:35:14 2016 No.9266075 >>9265980 I would cut it up and make something else of it. Like a pillow or doll clothes or something.

Anonymous Thu Nov 24 11:50:48 2016 No.9266088

>>9265980
>>9266075

Seconding this anon, make a pillow or a couple rice bags out of it or something. There's a ton of things you can do with spare fabric even if you don't have a seeing machine. It's a shame to see fabric get wasted even if it's shitty replica fabric. You could also try selling it, but it may sit on the market for a while.

Anonymous Thu Nov 24 11:55:39 2016 No.9266090

>>9266031
I think it depends on where you live.
Some places are a lot more replica tolerant then others. (Mostly in places like Canada where the exchange rate is bad and has been bad for awhile now. hardly anyone in my local comm is wearing new brand these days. Most of them buy from Toabao.)
I mostly can only afford secondhand for that reason. But i've never seen anyone called out for replica wearing here.
I don't see anything wrong with passable replicas. Ive been in the fashion for years and im starting to see the replica stigma as little bit silly. If you like it wear it. Most people don't have $400 laying around to shell out for new brand dresses, not everyone fits them.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 24 11:59:09 2016 No.9266098 >>9266090 What a surprise, a poorfag who doesn't see anything wrong with replicas

Anonymous Thu Nov 24 12:22:46 2016 No.9266118

>>9266090

>Some places are a lot more replica tolerant then others. (Mostly in places like Canada where the exchange rate is bad and has been bad for awhile now. hardly anyone in my local comm is wearing new brand these days. Most of them buy from Toabao.)

I think it's just you who thinks that way. Indie and offbrand has always been more or less accepted. Replicas almost always look cheaper than the original and are generally seen as art theft by the community.

>inb4 hurr do you download music

Nope, I subscribe, but thanks for trying to play that game.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 24 12:46:12 2016 No.9266141 >>9266098 Excuse you, I'm a poorfag and I still think art theft is trashy.

Anonymous Thu Nov 24 14:14:21 2016 No.9266201
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>>9265980
I have two of the BL music note AP print replica JSKs. The BL versions have everything but the Angelic Pretty on it (they removed the name on the print for their replica). So yes I'd feel fine wearing it to a meet.

Anonymous Thu Nov 24 14:19:45 2016 No.9266208

>>9266006
>>9266090

Goddamn, anon, almost everything you mentioned is pretty bad

>Bodyline: their only print replicas are Fruits Parlour and that IW poodle. The rest are low quality ripoffs of better quality brand designs, hardly anyone is going to mistake Bodyline for the real thing, which is why hardly anyone raises a fuss when they can obviously tell it's Bodyline.
>DoL: accurate, they're pretty dodgy quality.
>Oo Jia: She's every bit as low quality as DoL, wtf. Most of time you can tell it's a replica because she likes that cheap cotton broadcloth.

Even with the better replicas sometimes people can still tell it's a replica up close, such as Melty Chocolate fabric being much thinner, Dream Sky replica doesn't have the original charms, the print being cut off in the wrong place on the repeating prints replicas, and so on.

What you should really be giving as advice for those who want to wear replicas:

>make sure there's no brandwhore crazies in your comm

>Do not seek attention, be wise where you post your photos. No one hates you know, but if your photos start becoming popular you can bet the first thing people will point out is your replicas.

And

>Do not rub your replicas in people's faces. A lot of replicas are very obvious in person, especially if your standards are so low you actually think Oo Jia's fabric is decent. Your comm most likely knows it's a cheap replica and is being nice not pointing this out or calling you out on it. Don't go around crowing about it, this is going to annoy those girls who actually have to put up with you, and next thing you know they'll be bitching about you.

Additionally, it might help if you figured out what is a replica

>a cheap dress is not a replica just because it's cheap
>something that "looks like" or "reminds you" of burando is not a replica, that's just your inability to look at details

Please, if you can't even figure out what is and isn't a replica, at least don't go around dishing bad advice.

Anonymous Thu Nov 24 14:35:02 2016 No.9266221

>>9266118
>>9266208
Not anon you guys are replying to, but just wondering, why has Peachie never been crucified for her vast collection of replicas? She's fairly popular and I watched her wardrobe video a while back and was shocked that it's mostly print replicas

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 24 15:02:24 2016 No.9266241 >>9266221 she's a relatively cute white girl who's popular with new lolitas. it surprises me too, because my fellow sweet lolita friends idolize her but are simultaneously anti-replica. minor e-fame does a lot for a person i guess

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 24 15:06:21 2016 No.9266247 >>9266221 I assume because she was open with it. She's also sold a lot of her replicas and older dresses for brand now.

Anonymous Thu Nov 24 15:12:55 2016 No.9266257

>>9266221

She has. Older generation of cgl senpais didn't like her, and there was at least a group who actively hated her. Where do you think the "peachie is an ageplayer" rumour started. On egl some of the older members will say "she's not a lolita, so she's not on topic" about her.

You can really tell cgl's userbase now consists of newbies when they actually like peachie.

Anonymous Thu Nov 24 15:16:53 2016 No.9266262

>>9266090
>Most people don't have $400 laying around to shell out for new brand dresses, not everyone fits them.

>get into an expensive hobby, then complain it's too expensive

Come on. Also, a full taobao coord will set you back, what? 200 bucks at most?

Anonymous Thu Nov 24 15:39:28 2016 No.9266274

>>9266241
I guess so. I've always found her relatively annoying - she acts so fake. When I saw that her closet was full of replicas I disliked her even more.

>>9266247
She should definitely do a new wardrobe video this January

>>9266257
Makes sense. I wasn't active on cgl until about a year ago, before that I rarely ever looked here.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 24 15:52:03 2016 No.9266278 >>9266274 I agree. To me she is the epitome of a sweet lolita who tries too hard to be sweet. The only lolita youtuber I consistently like is Princess Jessie Kate.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 24 16:01:56 2016 No.9266283 >>9266221 Because in the end clothes only get you so far, personality matters much more. Wearing replicas to a comm meet while being very sociable is much better than being an annoying twat/loner while decked in brand.

Anonymous Thu Nov 24 19:04:50 2016 No.9266429
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Recently, an anon asked me for pictures of an Atelier Boz dress that I own and they were considering buying one of off LM, but it's damaged. I was browsing through some of my scans of various magazines,and happened to realise that I think I've found the dress on an advert. I can't read Japanese, and have no idea what issue or mag it's from. I hope this helps the anon, if they see this. It's the dress next to the waistcoat above the model's head.
If anyone can read what the advert's listing of the piece says, I'd be incredibly grateful as well to know what it's saying, as I have no idea what the piece is called or what year it's from myself.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 24 19:36:04 2016 No.9266465 >>9266429 I'm no expert and can't read all of the caption, but the dress seems to be called "Alkanet onepiece", after the flower.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 24 19:36:21 2016 No.9266467 >>9266429 It's called アルカネット onepiece. This doesn't really translate and lolibrary is down so I couldn't tell you what they named it, but you can at least find it on boz's blogs.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 24 19:40:36 2016 No.9266471 >>9266465 >>9266467 Thank you! It's not one on lolibrary, having searched through it extensively a few times for it. I now have something to go off for finding further details. I really appreciate your swift replies.

Anonymous Thu Nov 24 20:20:58 2016 No.9266507

>>9266429
This is wonderful, lucky find! I'm the anon who asked for the pictures and gave up on the auction (but someone paid the BIN price for it). Searching for the name yielded a blog, dated September 2008, about it's release; it also has more pictures. Thanks to >>9266465 and >>9266467 for confirming the name. In the ad, it's pictured with Matheus Pants and Gilliam Blouse so if those are on lolibrary, we could better confirm the release date.

>http://yaplog.jp/f_l_a_s_c_o/archive/207

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 24 20:49:57 2016 No.9266530 >>9266090 bait

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 24 21:00:59 2016 No.9266536 >>9266257 wait... i thought she WAS an ageplayer? or at least a little. a lot of the stuff she does and her youtube videos point to that conclusion...

Anonymous Thu Nov 24 21:12:14 2016 No.9266544

>>9266536
i don't know if she's an ageplayer or not but i just wanted to chime in that liking stuffed animals and cute shit doesn't indicate ageplay. some people just like stuffed animals and cute shit. though it definitely doesn't help that she's pandering towards a certain ~fragile kawaii~ vibe, that still doesn't lead to anything conclusive.

Anonymous Thu Nov 24 21:15:53 2016 No.9266546

>>9266536

Darned if I know. I find her rather grating and have no idea why nooblets go all starry-eyed over her. So all I know about her are the massive bitch threads on here where it's difficult to tell if the info is accurate or trolling.

Not that I care very much, desu. Ageplay, replicas. She's really not that well-liked, except by said nooblets.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 24 22:31:45 2016 No.9266583 >>9266544 doesnt help that she plays games aimed at toddlers on her channel either

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 24 22:33:20 2016 No.9266585 >>9266583 some people just like childhood shit and that's okay it doesn't always have to be some kind of weird sex thing

Anonymous Thu Nov 24 22:54:13 2016 No.9266593

>>9266585
>>9266544

It does attract ageplayers, though, plus the higher her channel popularity, the worse impression she gives to normies, leading to stories like this >>9250877.

I mean, sure, you can like her for being cute, and there's nothing wrong with liking toys, but with the way she does her videos I think it was the right idea to distance ourselves from her and say she's not a lolita. The last thing I want is for an influx of creepy daddies trying to join lolita comms because they think all lolitas are like peachie.

Anonymous Thu Nov 24 23:03:35 2016 No.9266599

>>9266593
i agree with that--i'm not really shilling for or against peachie either way. i just hate to see damaging assumptions being made about a person for their silly hobbies. especially as we (at least most of us) are part of a niche and misunderstood fashion ourselves.

but yes, i'm happy that (oldfag) lolitas distance themselves from her. seeing the incoming lolitas who are obsessed with peachie is really offputting and denotative of the direction our shared hobby/lifestyle is going in. luckily we can just write her off as a general kawaii bandwagon youtuber.

Anonymous Thu Nov 24 23:59:15 2016 No.9266634

>>9266599

We're equally quick to shut down others who hint too much at a connection between Lolita and other unsavory traits though. It's not just about the sex, I'd like the childish associations to stop as well.

I just don't see why this one person gets extra pity points just because they have followers on YouTube. So far as I'm concerned, they make their choice every time they continue to pander to those viewers, so they should be fine with the consequences of their own actions. Especially when you consider they reap the benefits of extra viewers for it and then it's some other random Lolita who has to pay the price getting harassed by a normie who hasn't heard that peachie isn't a Lolita.

Anonymous Fri Nov 25 00:05:47 2016 No.9266640

>>9266634
the only message i was really trying to convey is that peachie isn't necessarily an ageplayer just because she likes cute shit. i would say the same thing about anybody who expressed similar interests but wasn't blatantly sexual our fetishy about it, millions of followers or none.

i'm agreeing with you, about everything--she only gets extra asspats and pity points from her followers and from tumblr sympathizers. that's just kind of how e-fame works. if the question is if i think peachie is fake and purveying an inaccurate message: yes.

she shouldn't be excused for her weird shit just because she has a bunch of followers--but that's not why i'm excusing her.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 25 00:26:16 2016 No.9266648 >>9266429 >>9266507 Alkanet hunting anon here. Just checked lolibrary and the Mattheus pants and Rapier Swallowtail vest pictured are indeed from 2008 so I think it's safe to say that's the release year. Thanks so much for sharing anon!

Anonymous Fri Nov 25 03:04:28 2016 No.9266735

>>9266640

Ah, I see what you're getting at now. I think I glossed over it because it doesn't really matter whether she is or not.

I don't actually hate ageplayers either. We all have our fetishes after all. It's just that we know better than to put them on public display and then link them to lolita, thereby inviting creeps into the hobby. So I guess part of the confusion comes from trying to figure out why it's so important we don't judge her on her private life, when it has no real bearing on anything anyway. The real issue is more so that her public life panders to that crowd, and then the crowd starts associating lolita with it.

Ironically, I'd actually dislike her less if she were a confirmed age player but kept that shit under wraps. At least then it wouldn't attract creepy daddies to look at lolita comms to find girls who act childish, or normies to look at pastel dresses and instantly assume we're annoying grown-up children.

Anyway, glad we both agree she's not the best thing to happen to the hobby. Hopefully her fans also come to the realisation that her cutesy videos are part of the reason for creepers and stop idolising her.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 25 04:51:00 2016 No.9266773 >>9266429 Tell that anon not to buy from rincinerate good lord

Anonymous Fri Nov 25 05:42:07 2016 No.9266789

>>9266648
Fantastic! Thank you for checking! It's great to finally be able to add the name and year at last to my wardrobe list rather than unknown, and it's great for you as well, Alkanet-Hunting-Anon. I couldn't believe it when I was just looking through my pictures and there it was in front of me. I hope that now you know the name and year of the piece, you have better luck finding it. I think that you did the right thing though to not buy the LM listing. I'm surprised that it finally sold though for that high an amount in that condition.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 25 05:56:51 2016 No.9266796 >>9266648 Google translate is throwing out the name Alcatel op to me, rather than Alkanet/Alcanet.

Anonymous Fri Nov 25 06:07:34 2016 No.9266798

>>9266773
Alkanet-Anon decided against buying the LM listing one in the end after some of us said Rincinerate is a bad seller, and that the damage won't be fixable on the op. It's why I hadn't bought it myself. Someone else it seems though finally paid the full BIN amount, which is surprising.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 25 11:24:28 2016 No.9266919 So apparently Tenso allows you to mark the value of packages? What should I mark it at to be safe? Full value or should I mark it down to avoid customs? I'm getting some things from AP using them.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 25 12:12:39 2016 No.9266944 >>9266919 Check the customs of your own country.

Anonymous Fri Nov 25 19:52:15 2016 No.9267248
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Recently I read on AP USA's Facebook page that their store had been remodeled. Can any California anons tell me what the inside looks like now? Did they expand it or just do something aesthetic, like make it more pink like a lot of the Japanese Angelic Pretty stores?

A common complaint I always heard was that the story was kind of dark, like in picture related. Anyone been there since they remodeled and can give a review?

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 25 20:12:31 2016 No.9267259 >>9267248 It's still very pink, but the non-AP side is now purple instead of black and holds the other brands and the AP overflow. The store definitely looks a little bit more open and spacious, if that makes sense.

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>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 25 23:42:02 2016 No.9267422 >>9267248 >>9267259 I think they only fixed the space behind the counter, other than that it feels pretty much the same. They also have a bigger changing room now... well, it's still a changing curtain, but a bigger one.

Anonymous Sat Nov 26 00:33:44 2016 No.9267455

>>9266634
But Peachie IS a lolita.
>inb4 whiteknight! whiteknight! blarggghhh

I'm not a sweet lolita but I sympathize with their struggle. I think a lot of them want a cute lifestyle without the assumption that they are immature ageplaying weaklings.
Ageplay is a very specific fetish. Sure, there are different degrees, but at every level it is literally rp-ing to be a different age (childlike). There's no way you can assume she does that. Peachie always presents herself as an adult woman who genuinely loves/collects retro ponies and Polly Pockets and shit.

I think it is extremely disrespectful for you newbies to come in here and talk shit about someone who has been growing in and wearing the fashion for many years.
I'm a gothic lonelita and I actually really enjoy her reviews and videos. Though, she hasn't been making lolita ones as much as before.

she seems sweet and honest and way better for our image than posers like Venus were, who was roughly her contemporary (there was slight overlap).

watch that con panel she did about sweet lolita and lolita in general. it may change your mind about her intentions.

I'll join in to demonize her if she does something like shares a diaper/binky/collar collection. real ageplayers are like sissies: super obvious; because their practice of the fashion is superficial as they do it for unrelated reasons. Melanie Martinez strikes me as an ap. I've never seen a real coord from her, just gross imitations. Peachie legit demonstrates a real love for lolita fashion.

I'm sorry I got on this rant...I respect Peachie as a different kind of lolita than me. lurk and educate yourself before you try to strip someone legit of their identity and beloved hobby.

Anonymous Sat Nov 26 01:02:06 2016 No.9267474
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>>9267248
There is not much you can do for light besides brighter led pieces since their window displays are the only source of natural light. It is much more angelic pretty than it being 50/50 with their harajuku hearts stock.

Anonymous Sat Nov 26 01:02:10 2016 No.9267475

>>9267455
>i think a lot of them want a cute lifestyle without the assumption that they are immature ageplaying weaklings

thank you anon. a lot of us are judged really harshly for being into harmless cute stuff when it's other people fetishizing it for us. it makes it a little bit scary to show those facets of my personality and lifestyle (collecting plushies, coloring and stickering, having an overall upbeat attitude) when people are so quick to scream AGEPLAY!!!

just glad that there's somebody who gets it.

Anonymous Sat Nov 26 02:05:51 2016 No.9267504
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>>9267455
>she seems sweet and honest and way better for our image than posers like Venus were

Not by that much though. Whether or not she means it, the way that she presents herself online comes off as borderline infantile/ageplay-pandering sometimes. There's also those pictures of her in a ball pit/jungle gym that get posted occasionally, and an alleged photo of her posing with a sippy cup that I have yet to find. With any luck it'll just be a baseless rumor.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 02:10:00 2016 No.9267505 File: 376 KB, 500x677, 1390416845007[1].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9267504 And the picture mentioned earlier. It doesn't prove anything, but at the same time it's not unreasonable for people to raise eyebrows.

Anonymous Sat Nov 26 02:28:09 2016 No.9267508

Isn't it a bit hypocritical for lolitas to say that it's just a fashion, we don't want to be children, etc but it seems the majority consensus on this board is that things like smoking, drinking, swearing, etc in lolita is wrong. I understand this is cgl and y'all a bunch of salty bitches who love to judge others but I think it's equally as silly to say that all lolitas must be demure, proper princesses when they wear the fashion, as that seems more like cosplay to me. Lots of lolitas wear it regularly and do you really suggest somebody alter their daily habits or way of being just to fit the ~aesthetic~ of frilly clothes?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 02:33:09 2016 No.9267510 >>9267508 did a lot of gulls say drinking and swearing in lolita is wrong? i think that our general consensus is that smoking in lolita is stupid because smoking is fucking stupid

Anonymous Sat Nov 26 02:36:38 2016 No.9267511

>>9267510
It was probably a bunch of underage non lolitas, I saw it in the con horror thread maybe? I agree that smoking is dumb but like, why do people actually give that much of a shit what other people do to their bodies? It seems real retarded to try to enforce others to comply with your morals or get your panties in a bunch over it

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 02:37:27 2016 No.9267512 >>9267508 To be desu I just don't want the smell of tobacco (or anything else) lingering in a $300 dress.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 02:37:36 2016 No.9267513 >>9267511 because people are judgmental by nature and we're on /cgl/ of all places people are gonna make sweeping statements, it's just what internet denizens do

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 03:26:02 2016 No.9267536 >>9267511 It's because it isn't about their bodies. If they could smoke and breath all the smoke and stink, no one would care.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 03:46:48 2016 No.9267543 >>9267536 They were standing outside a con, not blowing smoke in anyone's face. They should just have walked away if it bothered them so much.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 04:33:24 2016 No.9267572 >>9267508 I think smoking and drinking (to excess) is disgusting no matter who does it so In going to judge you for it whether you're wearing AP or jeans and a t-shirt.

Anonymous Sat Nov 26 05:55:06 2016 No.9267608

>>9267508

The thing that slips past you, a few of these things we object against are due to their consequences for OTHER girls who are in the hobby:

>smoking -- secondhand smoke for their comm, damaged dresses for secondhand buyers
>ageplayers -- daddies mistaking lolita for littles
>any kind of fetish -- same deal, we don't want people stalking our comms because they have some mistaken impression that lolita = fetish

and this thing you seem to think we endorse:

>demure, proper princesses

We're totally against this as well, this kind of attitude seems to attract those 14-year old "lifestylers" who are too broke to own any of the clothes but are "totes rori at heart u gaiz" and then treat the meetups like some kind of pretend princess dress up session. So none of this princess shit either, thank you.

I would actually prefer if lolitas wear it daily and actually do daily things in them. You know, running errands, posting things, getting ice cream/coffee/snacks/food/wine, picking up groceries, going to the movies, etc etc. Normal daily things that people normally do in their daily lives.

What the fuck kind of person posts their dumbass sex lives online for everyone to see and doesn't expect to be judged for that shit? It's pretty tacky by ANY standards, I don't even know what you're implying with lolitas should be allowed to post their vices everywhere without being judged for it when you'll be judged equally as harshly by any other normie. C'mon, lolita's not some special snowflake club where you can come in shit in any direction, just act like a sane, normal human being instead of one that has to prove how edgy you are by smoking and drinking in everybody's faces, or some whatever stupid shit.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 06:09:19 2016 No.9267616 >>9266257 >>9266593 Just because oldfags on cgl hate her and made up rumours that she's an age player doesn't mean she's not a lolita

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 06:35:04 2016 No.9267624 >>9267508 Jesus Christ if you care this much what people think about you, then this is not the hobby for you Do whatever the fuck you want, we all think you're gross for vaping, you think vaping is fine, everyone has their own opinion, stop

Anonymous Sat Nov 26 06:38:33 2016 No.9267629

>>9267608
I never said anything about ageplay and I don't support it all. I was simply pointing out the double standard of believing that lolitas should act impeccably if they're dressed up whilst also claiming that it's just clothes. I agree with you in that lolita is just a fashion that people wear whilst going about their daily business and whilst I don't smoke, I recognise that for some people perhaps that is part of their routine and I wouldn't expect them to change any aspect of who they are in order to "represent lolita well".

And obviously being polite, courteous and acting like a functional human being in public is expected, I just think it's incredibly juvenile to judge anyone for partaking in adult liberties like enjoying a drink or smoke just because of their outfit.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 10:11:50 2016 No.9267732 >>9266241 As a sweet lolita I think she's a trash fire.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 11:13:43 2016 No.9267759 >>9267508 No one cares about drinking like a reasonable person. Most of the smokers are pretty edgy which is annoying, and a fashion like lolita generally gets resold. Smoke and vape smells like shit and sticks to clothing.

Anonymous Sat Nov 26 11:23:47 2016 No.9267766

>>9267759
If you smoke a lot then yes, but I for example have a one smoke sometimes rather than a drink and air my clothes carefully and don't smoke inside and it doesn't stick. I wash and air everything before passing them on like everyone should. I don't vape but I have had friends who did and I have never smelled it from someone.

Anonymous Sat Nov 26 11:49:02 2016 No.9267777

>>9267629

Anon.

Most commercial flights are now 100% smoke-free zones. Most buildings have designated smoking areas, regardless of people's smoking routine you're not supposed to just light up anywhere. Neither of these things were initiated by a lolita. And cops will arrest people for drinking and driving, whether or not it was a lolita who made a complaint about it.

You're the one that's being hypocritical, you're saying if "it's just clothes", then we somehow need to be nicer than normal, and put up with secondhand smoke that even normies don't tolerate. It's the normies who made the airplanes and buildings smoke-free zones and corralled all the smokers into designated smoking areas, not the lolitas. The normies don't want to breathe secondhand smoke and get lung disease any more than the lolitas do.

So why are lolitas obligated to hold their tongue about the evils of smoking, when the normies don't?

Do you see how that doesn't make sense? In order to prove that it's just clothes, we have to change our normal behaviour and be impeccable luvlies to the smokers, meanwhile the normies continue pushing the smokers into designated smoking zones, really?

As for the harmless social glass of wine, it was't even mentioned in the thread. Do you know that some lolita comms have wine-tasting meetups?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 12:17:55 2016 No.9267791 >>9267629 Anon you realize a lot of people use /cgl/. The thoughts of one or even a couple posts aren't going to be the thoughts of the whole board.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 12:43:15 2016 No.9267809 Is there anywhere to talk privately with experienced lolitas? I just bought my first dress and i feel like i might have been scammed.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 12:53:40 2016 No.9267823 >>9267809 Maybe the mentoring group on FB, though I'm not sure if they allow private messaging. Why do you think you were scammed? Do you think your dress was overpriced, do you suspect it's a replica, something else?

Anonymous Sat Nov 26 17:19:14 2016 No.9268064

>>9267508
you read this board and really think lolitas dont swear? im not gonna say about the smoking and drinking, which is bad dangerous habits, but demure? proper? changing your personality for your clothes? no lolita has ever suggested this in all my time in the fashion - most oppose it strongly

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 17:25:11 2016 No.9268072 >>9267809 You can remove any personal/defining details and tell us here, someone will surely do their best to help you.

Anonymous Sat Nov 26 17:26:28 2016 No.9268074

>>9267809
Why do you want to discuss this in private?

If you're worried about being embarrassed for fucking up, you can post here anonymously for input/ People might call if you an idiot if you fell for Milanoo, but at least you won't have your name and face attached to the posts.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 17:58:13 2016 No.9268113 >>9267766 The sorts of people who smoke as a one off aren't going to be talking about how they're so edgy for smoking in brand. In fact, the people who don't really about it are usually more reasonable and responsible. Not obnoxious cunts.

Anonymous Sun Nov 27 00:03:20 2016 No.9268461

>>9267504
>Whether or not she means it, the way that she presents herself online comes off as borderline infantile/ageplay-pandering sometimes.

But why does anyone care how it comes off as? Are there really lolitas who exist who HAVEN'T had someone think even their simplest classic coord was some sort of ageplay? Really, stop trying to normalize street fashion. It's supposed to turn heads and make people think you're weird. People either think lolita is strange, a kink thing, or both.

Even with that picture, she's not wearing lolita, and the most "suspicious" thing, a collar, is a regular part of many street fashions (menhera, gothic, etc). I don't really care if people want to think my fashion is childish/sexy. Only thing I care about is if you look like a mess.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 27 00:28:13 2016 No.9268489 >>9268074 I'm wondering if she thinks posting the information about the dress might identify her to the seller if they are someone that reads the board.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 27 03:32:33 2016 No.9268604 >>9267809 maybe the discord?

Anonymous Sun Nov 27 03:53:13 2016 No.9268620

All this smoker hate.
Please refresh your memory of what 'addiction' is defined as, then understand that with vaping, the most questionable substance is vegetable glycerin -not tar and known carcinogens.
Don't shit on another lolita just because they are harmlessly going about their business and you don't like it.

Anonymous Sun Nov 27 04:09:27 2016 No.9268639

Has anyone heard about store manager at baby hiroshima store is now doing gravure stuff, like full nude kinda gravure?
Apparently hiroshima store clients and the other girls that work there are very angry about that and baby is either ignoring it or doesn't care.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 27 08:43:30 2016 No.9268765 >>9268620 Just let this subject go. Nobody gives a fuck if you smoke or vape, we just don't want to be forced to breathe it in. >>9268639 Where do you hear about this kind of stuff? It's pretty lame for her colleagues to get so angry about it.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 27 09:14:15 2016 No.9268796 >>9261550 >dressing like a freak >still caring about others opinion about what you do is related to your appearance

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 27 09:37:18 2016 No.9268806 >>9268796 Consider there are a ton of lolita's on here who only wear it when they go to a meet-up or con. They try to fit in with normies in their daily life and want to fit in with lolita's at meets.

Anonymous Sun Nov 27 10:11:49 2016 No.9268832

I want to buy a new petticoat to layer over my Classical Puppets bell petticoat, just for extra poof, which is now about 2 years old. Would another of the same do the job, or does anyone recommend a different one? I would prefer not to have to wait for it be custom made.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 27 10:37:33 2016 No.9268846 >>9268832 Get another one, works perfectly for me, one is a little less than 2 years older than the other

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 27 11:20:38 2016 No.9268885 So I'm a complete newfag to LM. Is it rude to just click buy it now or do I message the seller first? I don't wanna fuck up and get bad feedback.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 27 11:23:25 2016 No.9268886 >>9268885 Are you planning to buy using the BIN feature?

Anonymous Sun Nov 27 11:26:42 2016 No.9268888

>>9268885
Well the item is there to be sold so I don't know how would you think it's rude to buy it before messaging. The only time you should really message the seller first is if there is nothing in the shipping cost and there is a possibility you don't have enough money or don't want to over pay or the shipping would be from US to EU or the other way around to make sure it's okay. Otherwise just buy what you want.

Anonymous Sun Nov 27 11:27:29 2016 No.9268890

>>9268885
I don't think it's rude, just make sure that you have all the information you need (seller's terms of sale, shipping fee to your location etc.) before you click BIN. Some sellers might require you to contact them before or after you purchase something so keep that in mind.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 27 11:36:33 2016 No.9268897 >>9268886 Yes, I'm not much of an auction person. >>9268888 >>9268890 Sounds reasonable, thanks!

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 27 11:40:26 2016 No.9268901 >>9268897 Bid first, then buy if there are more bidders.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 27 12:12:38 2016 No.9268927 >>9267361 Am I supposed to know who this is

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 27 12:20:43 2016 No.9268937 >>9268927 She's the Misako equivalent for Larme who also models for AP a lot.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 27 12:42:28 2016 No.9268952 How much can a brand dress be let out? I have one that I bought with a broken zipper and was thinking about having it let out when I get the zipper fixed.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 27 12:44:38 2016 No.9268954 >>9268952 1) depends on the dress 2) lose weight

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 27 13:02:47 2016 No.9268972 >>9267361 She's not even into lolita. Tired of AP jumping on everything that's popular with normies.

Anonymous Sun Nov 27 13:03:22 2016 No.9268974

>>9261550
Fuck the haters, I think it's fine. As a former tobacco smoker I feel it's a lot healthier. Also the smell doesn't stay on your clothes. Just don't do it in places you're not supposed to smoke in. I wouldn't do it around my comm because of judgmental people.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 27 13:11:27 2016 No.9268986 >>9268954 On it. Eitherway I am 5'9" with C cups. I am worried that even if I lose weight my rib cage might be too big.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 27 13:17:47 2016 No.9268994 >>9268952 Depends as well on the brand and the cut of the dress.

Anonymous Sun Nov 27 13:45:06 2016 No.9269028

Does anyone else feel like the magic of lolita has disappeared?
It's just not so happy anymore. I miss how special it used to be to me, I'd get so excited if I saw pictures of someone wearing my dream dress, and my heart would jump if I saw other lolitas on the street. Now I don't have a dream dress, and I really don't give a crap if I see a lolita.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 27 14:24:52 2016 No.9269060 File: 90 KB, 750x940, FullSizeRender.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] There isn't a lolita in media thread right now but I found this when looking through Pripara coords and thought it looked pretty passable which is rare for idol games.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 27 18:04:28 2016 No.9269311 >>9268972 Not like Amo was either... but she's one of their main models they use (fashion shows, catalog, print ads) so that's why they bring her

Anonymous Sun Nov 27 18:06:39 2016 No.9269314
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>>9269028
that made me really sad to read anon, but i kind of relate? even though i'm still very bright eyed and bushy tailed about the fashion, lolita feels so stressful for me. i put pressure on myself to buy this and that and think "what if this never shows up again" as opposed to taking it easy and enjoying what i have.

maybe take a break from the fashion, if you have a different style of clothes to wear in the meantime? or try out a new substyle? or make some new lolita friends. i feel more enthused about stuff when i have other people to hype it up with

>>9269060
that's actually pretty good! and we had a Style Savvy thread for a bit as well. though a lot of the pieces are absolute clusterfucks. i take what i can get.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 27 19:04:43 2016 No.9269396 >>9268972 are you unfamiliar with the concept of models

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 27 19:08:27 2016 No.9269399 >>9268972 because all runway models wear couture all the time, right how dare a brand make a smart marketing decision!

Anonymous Sun Nov 27 19:21:43 2016 No.9269407

>>9269028
New lolita is boring, that's why I eventually switched over to oldschool and oldschool inspired looks. It feels so much more special than just fancy princess dresses like most of baby's new releases, or boring vintage normie clothes like IW. I don't even know what to say about AP this year, I used to love everything AP released

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 28 00:38:04 2016 No.9269723 Anyone here going to the AP USA Anniversary Party in a couple weeks?

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 28 00:50:27 2016 No.9269733 >>9269723 did they ever choose the models for that?

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 28 01:23:28 2016 No.9269769 >>9269733 i think acceptance emails go out around the 30th! hopefully some gulls got in

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 28 04:23:55 2016 No.9269868 >>9269769 they said the 1st iirc

Anonymous Mon Nov 28 06:24:31 2016 No.9269914

>>9269028
I think it's reached an over saturation point on how many cheap TaoBao brands etc there are pushing out crag that looks the same after a while. Some TaoBao brands are great, but..... There's just stuff being churned out too quickly, and some brands, such as AP, are also guilty. There's more available than ever, but at the same time things feel more rushed, brands at times seem to be losing their identities, and it feels like less variety, with sweet seeming to have encroached on the different styles.

Anonymous Mon Nov 28 09:46:24 2016 No.9270028 [DELETED]

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So I'm working on my first ever coord, have never even bought a dress even. Can I get advice?

>I really like bonnets but I haven't found anything the right shade of brown just yet.
>Be as harsh as you need, I just need to learn.

Anonymous Mon Nov 28 09:53:44 2016 No.9270031

>>9270028
We have coord help threads for this: >>9254002

The collar of the blouse is going to look awkward with the collar of the OP. Wearing blouses with OPs has been out of fashion for years and while you can still do it, you need to make sure it won't look too frumpy or stuffy. I'd recommend wearing the OP as-is or getting a JSK for more variability.
I also think there's too much brown on the bottom. Those tights are really cute but IMO if you're going to wear that dress with brown shoes then white socks/tights would look better. Matching is good but not when you're a big blog of one colour with the dress being the only exception.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 28 09:57:05 2016 No.9270036 File: 85 KB, 349x500, glb62.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Anyone know yet what the sewing patterns in GLB 62 are?

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 28 09:58:04 2016 No.9270037 >>9270031 I'll post there, and thanks so much for the input!

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>>9270036
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>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 28 12:11:15 2016 No.9270115 File: 807 KB, 700x1005, glb62.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9270036 >>9270053 Here's the whole index. if anyone could translate, it'd be awesome!

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 28 14:29:07 2016 No.9270227 DO you consider Lolita as "high fashion" for you?

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 28 14:37:32 2016 No.9270242 >>9270227 No It's a street fashion

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 28 14:56:35 2016 No.9270264 >>9264738 >Could probably use the box they ship it in to sleep in, too. Welp that's probably where I'd live after buying that lucky pack. IW knows me well. Burando hobo life here I come.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 28 15:24:44 2016 No.9270307 >>9270227 No. It's a street fashion.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 28 15:29:46 2016 No.9270312 >>9270227 no, it's a street fashion

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 28 15:54:19 2016 No.9270345 >>9270227 >>9270242 >>9270307 >>9270312 No, this is patrick

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 28 15:55:33 2016 No.9270348 >>9270115 It doesn't really say what it is. Handmade project "sweet funny gift"

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 28 15:58:10 2016 No.9270353 >>9270348 Ohh, that's a pity...

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 28 16:52:09 2016 No.9270413 is poofy the most lolita word?

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 28 16:59:47 2016 No.9270421 >>9270413 frilly is better imo

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 28 17:46:51 2016 No.9270493 >>9270227 Everyone already said it but I agree it's street fashion, at least originally. As for if it's still that today well that's a whole new barrel of salt.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 28 19:00:21 2016 No.9270581 >>9267504 She's stuck in some odd kind of fantasy world. She's a grown woman who dresses like a little child, it's weird. She's delusional.

Anonymous Tue Nov 29 00:05:39 2016 No.9270883
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Which buying strategy is my best bet for getting Baby's new year's lucky pack? Should I even try getting it from bssb sf or am I better off finding a shopping service that will buy one for me?

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 29 03:56:22 2016 No.9270988 Can anyone comment on the hem circumferences for AP, Baby, and IW's underskirts? I'm looking to get a 60-65cm one and I was wondering how much skirt each of them had.

Anonymous Tue Nov 29 06:14:52 2016 No.9271051

>>9270493
I'm curious why wouldn't it be a street fashion anymore? I know people have complained that it doesn't feel like a street fashion anymore because a lot of people only wear it to con's and meets, but it really depends on the poeple you surround yourself with. At least in my comm there are over 700 members (you have to send pictures of yourself wearing lolita to become a member, so they all are or were lolita's). And only about 20-30 of the members go to meets, those same people are most active in the group online. That doesn't mean the other members don't exist, so can we really say most lolita's only wear it to meets and con's or is that just the ones who are active on facebook? Besides, the main thing that makes something a street fashion is its origin.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 29 06:17:42 2016 No.9271053 >>9270883 I think they're easier to get from sf but you better ask in the fukubukuro thread.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 29 07:05:08 2016 No.9271072 File: 335 KB, 2000x2000, 204425J9.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9270036 >>9270115 That's what I have for now. A Royal Princess alice Skirt pattern.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 29 07:12:20 2016 No.9271074 >>9271072 Jumperskirt** sorry

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 29 07:19:48 2016 No.9271077 File: 283 KB, 1200x1123, CyUWvbeUoAAa1Mi.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9271072 Ok, just discovered it's this one. My work here is done.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 29 09:31:36 2016 No.9271130 >>9271077 Thanks anon. But why did you censor it so it can't be translated?

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 29 10:04:41 2016 No.9271144 >>9271077 oh look, a basic bitch JSK

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 29 10:21:39 2016 No.9271155 >>9271130 It wasn't me. I got this one from a random Japanese blog and it was already censored like this. Anyway, just bought mine. I can post a new pic when it arrives, if you want.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 29 10:22:51 2016 No.9271156 >>9271144 I like how this one works as a full lining dress, instead of the Otome no Sewing ones, that usually have only partial lining together with the pattern.

Anonymous Tue Nov 29 10:47:28 2016 No.9271173
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>>9266257
Eh, I've been here since 2012 and I like her personality-wise. (well, not so much as before, she seems more "annoying" to me nowadays, but i found her genuine and cute.) But always strongly disliked her style even though I am a sweet lolita. It's way too flashy,cutesy and childish for me but she looks like a nice gal.
The "ageplayer" thing is just a meme, she even said herself ageplayers creep her out and specifically asked them not to reblog stuff from her blog.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 29 10:55:55 2016 No.9271182 >>9271156 you literally just use the shell pattern for the lining.

Anonymous Tue Nov 29 11:59:16 2016 No.9271255

>>9267508
Seriously it's not being hypocritical, it's not wanting to ruin fucking expensive clothes.

I mean, I don't like smoking, or people smoking around me, lolita or not. I like drinking, but I'm likely to trip, spill my drink or even throw up (or get someone else doing that) on my dress.

If you don't care about your clothes, go for it, but I wouldn't do it or hang out with people who do it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 29 15:44:19 2016 No.9271455 >>9271155 Ah I see. I'd appreciate a pic when you do get it though anon!

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 29 16:13:19 2016 No.9271480 >>9267505 If I saw her like this real life, I would think she is mentally slow. She looks like a retarded adult who has the mental capacity of a 5 year old.

Anonymous Tue Nov 29 19:31:17 2016 No.9271712

Sorry for the stupid question, I didn't see a dumb questions thread. Can I use my foreign credit card to order from Swimmer? I'm a newfag who just wants some cute purses, and apart from Closetchild this is my first time ordering from a Japanese site. I know I gotta do shipping through tenso and I found a good guide for that, just not sure if my card will work.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 29 19:36:28 2016 No.9271715 >>9267505 Honestly I don't trust anyone who owns that hideous Bodyline toddler romper if they say they aren't an ageplayer. There's no excuse for wearing such an ugly garment unless you're pretending to be a child.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 29 19:43:52 2016 No.9271720 Lolita stickers?

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 29 19:54:18 2016 No.9271732 >>9270581 >What are all (sweet) lolitas?

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 29 21:20:27 2016 No.9271820 >>9271712 Yes you can.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 29 23:02:32 2016 No.9271910 Do people think IW will be releasing book purses to match with the royal library re-release? I'd really like to get a pleather book purse and not sure where else to look - specifically wanting a tan one.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 29 23:10:49 2016 No.9271920 I'm sorry if this was asked before but I can buy things off Fril myself or do i need a shopping service?

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 29 23:29:56 2016 No.9271949 >>9266090 why do poorfags always think dresses cost 400? Most are 250

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 29 23:41:20 2016 No.9271953 >>9267455 Ugh I hate Melanie Martinez She is definitely a ageplayer

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 29 23:52:14 2016 No.9271962 >>9271949 or significantly cheaper if you buy them 2nd hand from a lolita in your country but poorfags are usually retarded

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 29 23:57:39 2016 No.9271969 >>9271920 Use a shopping service.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 30 00:05:04 2016 No.9271975 >>9271949 Everything I want from baby and meta starts around $350. I was surprised when I started looking at AP that they had cheaper dresses... but by the time I ordered my 270$ AP dress with shipping and everything it came out to 315

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 30 05:48:41 2016 No.9272231 File: 130 KB, 480x640, rosy masquerade jsk 2 red.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Why does this series have such a low score on Lolibrary? This cut has 1.4/5 stars with 11 votes.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 30 08:13:02 2016 No.9272291 >>9271975 Still not 400.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 30 08:16:50 2016 No.9272294 >>9268806 Ah, it reminds me why i avoid meets

Anonymous Wed Nov 30 08:23:07 2016 No.9272298
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Any gull ever had a similar story?:
>receiving a dress i was eagerly waiting for
>disgusting stains ALL OVER THE DRESS
>advertised as not stained on mercari
>SS only showed me a pic of the lightest stains on the trim saying it's obviously stained but it didnt seem that bad
>shortly after i bought it for 9000¥ another one popped in good condition with the headbow at 4500¥
>And I had to pay custom taxes
Brb committing seppuku. Pic related are some of the many stains.
At least the dress is still cute but fuck, man.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 30 08:32:37 2016 No.9272303 >>9272298 Sheesh, sorry to hear that, anon. Which SS do you use?

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 30 09:04:13 2016 No.9272318 >>9272303 From Japan. I have absolutely no luck lately with my lost taobao order and now this lel. Are the lolita gods angry against me?

Anonymous Wed Nov 30 09:06:22 2016 No.9272320

>>9272318
I don't use them anymore for similar reasons. I even pay for the check service and they send damaged items/items with missing pieces. I recommend Zen Market, they're cheaper too. They don't have a check service though, not sure if they do that for free or what. I hope you find your Taobao order - what's in it?

Anonymous Wed Nov 30 11:22:49 2016 No.9272405

>>9271949
>>9272291

Probably jetj and moitie skewing the prices.

Plus, the exchange rate wasn't always favorable. So a fair number of the 30+k yen dresses usually come out to just over $300, not under, and then with shipping they're just under $400, and then I guess people round it up to a nice even $400 when asked how much their dresses are.

Anonymous Wed Nov 30 11:36:59 2016 No.9272412
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>>9272320
But they accept to mark packages down and accept to buy from mercari so... Wow, i didn't know it already happened.
Pic related is the "damage" they sent me I have like 5 more pics of stains all over the dress.
Thank you anon, I hope too! There was a long sleeved blouse because I absolutely needed one (I only have a Baby cutsew with long sleeves), some accessories and socks i also needed and some little gifts for my friends.
I feel even worse because I told them I had something coming for them.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 30 11:37:27 2016 No.9272413 >>9269723 I am! I'm excited for it this year.

Anonymous Wed Nov 30 11:56:36 2016 No.9272430

>>9269914
I actually disagree. I love lolita now more than ever. Everything is so much more accessible and there are just so many more nice pieces available. I also feel like there's way more variety than there was when I started in 2010 - back then it was either old school stuff, OTT pastel vomit sweet, super dark mana gothic lolita, or grandma's couch kei (aka classic lolita). I feel like the brands are coming out with way nicer items, and at the same time, not everything is a bloodbath anymore, which is fantastic.

desu you guys kind of sound like the WoW nostalgiafags who insist vanilla was the best when in reality it was just the most exclusive/time consuming

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 30 12:11:33 2016 No.9272445 >>9272430 I feel like you discovered more things that you didn't know about in 2010 and that's why it feels like there's more variety

Anonymous Wed Nov 30 12:12:29 2016 No.9272447

>>9272430

I'm the one you're replying to. I got into the fashion about the same time as you. While the ease of bieng able to buy directly from Japan is great, and I don't begrudge that, I just feel that through rushing, quality is perhaps slipping on the big Japanese brands, when as it's improved miles on TaoBao brands etc. I've bought pieces in the last year from AatP, and the quality hasn't felt a patch on my 2010-2012 era pieces. I also feel that as someone who really doesn't like OTT or sweet, there's a lot less gothic available than there used to be. Looking through the old copies of the GLB earlier made me sad, as I really do prefer the older gothic styles compared to most of what's available today, with Boz and Moitie the main brands holding true to those styles still.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 30 15:49:13 2016 No.9272615 The "stupid questions" thread died so I hope this is ok to post here. Can someone explain good lace vs cheap lace to a complete newcomer?

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 30 15:51:29 2016 No.9272617 >>9272231 no idea, are there any reasons given? was it rated by people who actually own it?

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 30 16:02:18 2016 No.9272620 >>9272615 I'm pretty sure fyeahlolita did an article on this

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 30 17:28:50 2016 No.9272685 >>9272615 http://fyeahlolita.blogspot.com/2010/04/how-to-tell-bad-lace-from-good-lace.html Here's your spoonfeed now get out of my kitchen

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 30 17:37:00 2016 No.9272696 >>9269733 My friend just got the acceptance email 30 min ago.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 30 18:14:33 2016 No.9272724 >>9269733 Just got accepted!

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 30 21:39:57 2016 No.9272874 I'm probably going to sound like an idiot, but when ap lucky packs go up on the 3rd online will they only be available on the Japanese site? I've been looking for a while and can't find an answer. I'm sorry to ask for spoon feeding.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 30 22:57:04 2016 No.9272917 >>9272874 I'm in the same boat at the moment, since I've never purchased a lucky pack from AP yet, but from what I can tell, they're only sold on the Japanese website, since there seems to be no info regarding the packs on the USA page.

Anonymous Wed Nov 30 22:59:09 2016 No.9272918

>>9272874

More like wondering what other site there is, because the rest of us are so used to thinking of the japanese web shop as THE web shop. Ap usa's sort of almost on a reseller level and does their own timing, easier if you ask directly on their fb when they go up.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 1 10:25:05 2016 No.9273315 >>9272724 >>9272696 >didn't get accepted feelsbadman.jpg

Anonymous Thu Dec 1 23:13:35 2016 No.9273945

Not sure if this is the right thread for this question but how do most of you gulls get sponsors for when hosting tea parties or events? Do you give them a free pass to your tea party/event or do you give them some money to use their name and for them to come?

Sorry if this is a stupid question, I want to host a tea party for my comm but never done one to this degree and want to do something nice.

Anonymous Thu Dec 1 23:22:08 2016 No.9273955

>>9266599
>incoming lolitas who are obsessed with peachie
Her peak popularity was in like 2013, wtf are you on? She's less and less relevant these days because she went a couple of years where she barely posted videos, then started posting almost exclusively non-lolita content. Nooblets were much more into her a few years ago than they are now.

Anonymous Thu Dec 1 23:24:14 2016 No.9273956

>>9266735
Damn anon, creepers have been around long before Peachie and will be around long after she's gone. She's not famous outside of YouTube so I'd say she's a lot less responsible for those associations than people who've tried to famewhore on TV are.

Anonymous Thu Dec 1 23:36:18 2016 No.9273963

>>9271953
>Melanie Martinez
Honestly the worst thing to happen to this fashion in a long time. Everyone bitches and whines about efamous lolitas or niche bad reality TV shows, but they're never relevant to more than a few people. Here you have an internationally famous popstar with ageplay as her gimmick, wearing lolita-like outfits and telling people her lolita dresses are "adult baby clothes". I wish she didn't exist.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 1 23:37:42 2016 No.9273965 >>9273963 *obviously more than "a few people", but generally their spheres of influence are pretty small

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 1 23:58:10 2016 No.9273978 >>9264274 http://page11.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/n183944014

Anonymous Fri Dec 2 00:08:59 2016 No.9273988

>>9266221
I'm not a fan of replicas at all but you're betraying your own newfaggotry with that question. That wardrobe video is several years old and the entire community was more tolerant of replicas back then. Similarly, Lor had a lot of replicas back then and then transitioned away from them. Even Caro from fyeahlolita had some replicas a few years ago, IIRC. Back when Taobao basically didn't do prints and AP's constant re-releases were unheard of, replicas were really common and most efamous lolitas owned them. Can't crucify them all.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 00:12:12 2016 No.9273991 >>9273945 hahahahaha. good one, anon

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 00:14:03 2016 No.9273993 >>9273963 >tfw i dont even wear split wigs and i get melanie comments all the time >tfw people get ANGRY when i correct them that im, in fact, not a cry baby

Anonymous Fri Dec 2 00:21:57 2016 No.9274002

>>9273955
have you talked to a lot of sweet nooblets? i've had the misfortune of associating with a lot of them and yes, they still have a giant boner for peachie.

i'm not denying the fact that her peak popularity was in 2013, but it's silly to assume that newbies wouldn't be as exposed to her. they're already years behind--why would they be up to date on who's popular in lolita right now?

Anonymous Fri Dec 2 00:23:01 2016 No.9274004

>>9273988

Different anon, but I think peachie kept up with the replicas long after that, which is probably why people remember her for it more than others. You can check the date of the video against the date egl banned replicas, it's pretty indicative of the moment the tide turned against replicas.

Anonymous Fri Dec 2 00:26:09 2016 No.9274007

>>9272231
I honestly don't know what to tell you. I have this cut and it's far more flattering then the other cut and has a lot of room for people of all sizes. The top sits nice and the overall feel is nice. Personally I would give it a 8 or 9 out of ten.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 00:33:30 2016 No.9274011 >>9273945 >Sponsors You mean paid guests? We love colors is the only sponsor I've ever heard of and that was one event afaik

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 01:02:18 2016 No.9274028 >>9273315 Me too. I thought since they extended the deadline it would be an easy in.

Anonymous Fri Dec 2 02:33:31 2016 No.9274092

>>9274011
I think I wasn't clear enough. There are tea parties that I have been to where the hosts announce sponsors who I guess donated some of their works like jewelry they make or prints to be raffled off at the tea party. I want to do something similar for a tea party since usually my comm only have picnic meets and I believe having something like that would be nice.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 03:27:41 2016 No.9274115 >>9263746 >Tfw you'll never get a non-ita Chandelure print dress

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 03:30:55 2016 No.9274116 >>9264632 Get a bigger house then buy more brand

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 03:33:05 2016 No.9274119 >>9272231 A lot of large people bought it and are disgusted it doesn't look the same as in the stock photos

>>	mindlessblahs@gmail.com Fri Dec 2 03:35:24 2016 No.9274121 >>9274092 As far as I know, our organizers just ask them..? Small jewellery doesn't cost much, so people give their stuff away for free for being mentioned and having their business cards being part of the goodie bags.

Anonymous Fri Dec 2 03:35:41 2016 No.9274122

>>9273993
Oh god same. I always try to be polite about correcting them but usually they keep insisting I'm copying her like I'm in denial about it. You'd think I'd know what I am or am not wearing better than the average Joe on the street, but apparently not.
And the most annoying thing is that there are a few itas in my comm who are obsessed with her so I can't escape that shit at meet ups either.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 03:36:30 2016 No.9274123 >>9274121 urgh, sorry for the sales thread mail

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 03:37:39 2016 No.9274124 >>9274119 Retarded fatties, well that's no surprise.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 03:42:43 2016 No.9274126 >>9268639 Who cares? It's not like she doing it in store

Anonymous Fri Dec 2 03:48:42 2016 No.9274132

>>9274119
well if you are at the Max measurements of any thing it's not going to look the same. Don't buy clothes that are to your exact measurements then that wouldn't be a problem. Has nothing to do with the dress just buyers trying to squeeze into something that doesn't fit them. I have both cuts of this print in red and I'll admit I'm pretty tightly fitted into the first cut so I'll have to work harder in my diet and gym time to fix that. But the second cut is much more roomy and fits almost exactly like the picture since I'm in the middle of the measurement ranges.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 03:49:43 2016 No.9274134 >>9270036 I wish GLB had a English version again

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 03:53:25 2016 No.9274139 >>9271720 Baby sells them

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 07:15:47 2016 No.9274212 >>9274121 Ahh I see. I thought about asking as well but also thought you had to pay them or like give them something so they can come and donate things. Thanks anon, you made me feel more confident about hosting this tea party now.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 08:03:30 2016 No.9274239 >>9271051 Betting that a larger amount of that 700 never wear their lolita outfits at all, though, or wear it in their room or something.

Anonymous Fri Dec 2 08:16:05 2016 No.9274246

>>9269314
>i put pressure on myself to buy this and that and think "what if this never shows up again" as opposed to taking it easy and enjoying what i have.
Very much this. Right now I'm mostly hunting down older wish list pieces and buying new Taobao releases, and with both of those I find it really hard not to buy because they're so much harder to find second-hand than new brand releases are. I'm stressing out because I feel like I HAVE to buy these dresses or I'll never find them again, meanwhile I have a dozen others I haven't even worn because I can't take a moment to step back from buying main pieces to buy more blouses and shoes.

Anonymous Fri Dec 2 08:24:33 2016 No.9274249

>>9272430
Market over-saturation is the big issue. The second-hand market has been slow for months, yet there's still a constant deluge of new releases. It's not that all the choice available now is bad per se, it's that the size of the community hasn't actually increased to match the growth, so we now have a huge supply with the same demand. I'm not even sure what's fuelling the excess growth - people say it's brands selling abroad but they've been doing that for years and the western community hasn't had the same sudden increase in membership in the past two years that the increase in sales volumes would suggest. Is it the huge Chinese market that's virtually invisible to the west because they use their own SNS and sales methods fuelling it? Either that or it's homogenization in people's tastes combined with all the re-releases resulting in more people spending their cash on AP and not second-hand, but that feels unlikely.

Lolita is pretty weird at the moment because there's so much easy availability of lolita right now yet the community is still small and not a widely-known subculture, despite not being small enough to feel really niche.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 08:25:14 2016 No.9274250 File: 128 KB, 250x333, 02_790.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Buying my first dress and I am so so very excited! My dream dress has always been AP Melty Chocolate OP Pink; but there is a great sale on a OP Brown! I am just so excited.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 09:15:52 2016 No.9274283 >>9274250 Congrats, anon! It's awesome that your first dress is a dream dress.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 11:00:29 2016 No.9274379 >>9274283 Thank you~ I'm a cosplayer that has lurked the lolita threads for to long.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 13:05:51 2016 No.9274496 Does anyone know if Innocent World makes S sized dresses? I have been lurking around their English website for a while but I only seem to find M and L stuff.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 20:05:08 2016 No.9276064 >>9267624 underrated comment right here.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 11:01:08 2016 No.9276640 >>9267508 Cosplayer here, and no that is not like it at all. Would you want a demure, sweet Alucard? No, you can't even speak properly for lolitas; so don't drag us into your drama.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 11:55:27 2016 No.9276675 >>9274496 In my experience their unshirred and partial shirred skirts are the smallest

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