/ouG/ - Boystyle General: Manry Corset Lacing Edition

[Anonymous No.9094080]

Old Thread >>8955984

This thread is for ouji and aristocrat (aka "boystyle") discussion. Boystyle refers to the masculine counterparts of lolita and aristocrat fashions. There is a lot of overlap between these styles, and different people use different terms to describe them. So, consider this a thread for those whose style is on the right half of Buttcape's Lolita Family Triangle: http://www.kawacura.com/moripress/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/0dmmLH6-350x350.jpg

>Shopping spreadsheet
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1j7sg2_7CvXUeIgZGGSLvJ9lUUuSVXhW8FlWWFwiv1Yk/edit?usp=docslist_api

>Blogs for current boystyle releases, news, and info
palaceofprinces.tumblr.com(Vandalized and currently down)
ouji-armoire.tumblr.com
buttcape[.]blogspot[.]com (She's back!)
Google your questions before asking them here.

Read the whole thread before asking questions here.

OC and selfposts encouraged! Random picspam discouraged; we've seen most of it by now.

[Anonymous No.9094090]

M'ouji

[Anonymous No.9094096]

I love how Putumayo does their coordinate pics.

[Anonymous No.9094103]

>>9094096
Sheglit actually puts real pieces together instead of shooping them. It's a shame that Sheglit turned out to be so femme.

[Anonymous No.9094113]

And here's a hat with a hat with legs on it.

[Anonymous No.9094454]

>tfw someone else made a new thread

anon you are cool and i like your posts

[Anonymous No.9094560]

>>9094454
T-thanks fampai. That really ruffled my jabot in a good way.
This calls for more manry corset laced pants.

[Anonymous No.9094595]

>>9094080
Palace of princes' new blog is palaceofprincesupdates.tumblr.com.
They're still a useful reference.

[Anonymous No.9095728]

Can't get the website to work for these. h.NAOTO balloon line pants. No items actually load when I select categories.

[Anonymous No.9096076]

I could use some ideas for outfits with knee length pants or longer, if anyone is willing.
I love my tiny poof shorts but sometimes thighs can look a little scandalous.

[Anonymous No.9097500]

want

[Anonymous No.9098017]

>>9096076
what substyle? any particular colors?

[Anonymous No.9098641]

>>9098017
Any style/color honestly. Just not too OTT like some of those crazy pirate coords.

[Anonymous No.9099519]

Got my first piece ever today. Very excited. Fits perfectly. Bodyline but oh well it's a place to start. Time to find a blouse.

[Anonymous No.9099524]

>>9099519
grats anon

>>9098017
here is a small dump, let me know what you like from it and i can do more along that line.

ignore the whacky eye shoop on this dude

[Anonymous No.9099525]

>>9099524
meant for >>9098641

posting recent/uncommonly posted stuff also, sorry for any repeats

[Anonymous No.9099526]

>>9099525

[Anonymous No.9099528]

>>9099526

[Anonymous No.9099531]

>>9099528

[Anonymous No.9099534]

>>9099531

[Anonymous No.9099536]

>>9099534

[Anonymous No.9099546]

>>9099536

[Anonymous No.9099716]

>>9099519
Replace the shiny ribbon with equal width grosgrain ribbon from a fabric store. It improves the shorts.
>>9099536
I love most of his coords, but the long hair makes him look like a sad horse. His face is just too elongated for it, sorry to say.

[Anonymous No.9099775]

>>9099716

Thanks, that's a good idea.

[Anonymous No.9099791]

>>9099519
Oh I was gonna get these shorts but they were out of my size. I guess I'll pick them up when Bodyline restocks which is probably like 6 months from now.

Does anyone have any recommendations for finding shorts for a 73cm waist and 104 cm hips most are either too small in the hips or too big in the waist.

[Anonymous No.9099803]

>>9099791
jodhpurs may be your best friend. a couple examples:

http://lolibrary.org/apparel/jodhpurs-shoulder-straps

http://lolibrary.org/apparel/benedict-jodhpurs-pants

[Anonymous No.9099814]

>>9099791
You're measurements are super close to mine.
>Putumayo

[Anonymous No.9099816]

>>9099791
Your measurements are super close to mine.
Try Putumayo

[Anonymous No.9099822]

>>9099524
You are amazing anon. I think I like the first three the most. It seems like ouji with full length trousers depend on a long detailed coat to still read as ouji.
I really like the outfit with dark night guardian too.

[Anonymous No.9101030]

>>9097500

[Anonymous No.9101156]

Anyone here who was a lolita who made the transition to ouji? I'd like to hear your advice and stories
I want to start wearing ouji inatead because of my masculine facial features and frame.

[Anonymous No.9101274]

This might be stupid thing to ask at the middle of the summer, but what kind of cardigans and other knitted things does oujis wear? I'm looking for reference since I'm into knitting right now and I want to start a bigger project.

[Anonymous No.9101707]

>>9099531
I was going to grab that JSK on sale to do something similar and then forgot and it sold out, but I'm glad to see I'm not the only one with that idea and that it looks pretty decent

[Anonymous No.9102000]

Is there a middle step between going from literal 4 dollar Bodyline stuff to brand being 100-400 a piece? Should I just look for secondhand?

[Anonymous No.9102034]

>>9102000
Taobao, fanplusfriend, indie. . . but secondhand is easier and cheaper. 69th department and ichigo13 on taobao have solid basics.
Deorart's summer sale is on, and I saw some stuff for like 5700 yen.

[Anonymous No.9102976]

>>9099822
will dump some more

[Anonymous No.9102978]

>>9102976

[Anonymous No.9102980]

>>9102978

[Anonymous No.9102984]

>>9102980

[Anonymous No.9102987]

>>9101274
school-style cardigans, and long gothy ones

[Anonymous No.9104616]

AatP takes a step in the right direction

[Anonymous No.9104771]

>>9104616
I wanted this cape so bad, but it was already sold out. My ss even tried reserving it in store, but it was sold out there too.

[Anonymous No.9105777]

new VM pants. Tokyo Rebel lists them for over $200 which seems steep.

[Anonymous No.9106843]

>>9105777
>VM
well if you're wondering why...
Seriously though I would barely pay 100 for the fit of those. I think it's the thin, high waistband that does it.

[Anonymous No.9107877]

upcoming long vest release from Taobao brand Tears of Muse.

when will designers put nice prints on their long vests and coats? like Meta's overskirt JSK that can be used as a gilet (>>9099531).

so jelly of the wide range of prints lolitas have

[Anonymous No.9107923]

>>9107877
They're not selling that anymore - the second payment was due in February. 完售展示 means they've stopped production and are just keeping the pictures up for display purposes.

[Anonymous No.9108593]

>>9107923
thanks, i thought it meant they were going into preorder soon. taobao noob to the core.

[Anonymous No.9109413]

[Anonymous No.9109415]

>>9109413

[Anonymous No.9109416]

>>9109415

[Anonymous No.9109417]

>>9109416

[Anonymous No.9109614]

>>9109415
>dracomalfoy.jpg
thanks anon I never imagined Malfoy to be attractive but here we are

but also bakasoseji was one of my faves, I wish he wore the style more

[Anonymous No.9109824]

>>9109614
unlike the other pics anon shared, that one is fairly recent so he has not given up entirely, at least.

new oujis on tumblr i like include viscountnoir and alastairscarbarough. they are not as creative as bakasoseji, but i dig their clean silhouettes and androgyny. i expect good things as their wardrobes mature.

[Anonymous No.9109832]

How do you pronounce ouji?

[Anonymous No.9109837]

>>9109832
oh jee
lol

[Anonymous No.9110422]

>>9109824
>viscountnoir
i think this ouji also does unboxings on the YT channel burandoholics

[Anonymous No.9111272]

>>9109824
Thanks for the recommendations! Their coords are really nice. If you have any others, let me know.

[Anonymous No.9111859]

>>9111272
kira-ouji is nice for the sweeter side of ouji, sort of sweet-classic aesthetic in general

[Anonymous No.9114680]

>>9111859
This is nice too! Very cute. Thanks!

[Anonymous No.9117534]

Can I post a pic for con crit?

[Anonymous No.9117602]

>>9117534
Sure, go for it.

[Anonymous No.9117614]

>>9117534
Sorry for the mirror pic

[Anonymous No.9117637]

>>9117534
sorry for mirror pic also for re posting had a size problem

[Anonymous No.9117662]

>>9117637
your shirt and vest look good, but those shorts are too short imo. also, the plaid x stripes can work for punk, but your coord is a bit too simple for it to work here; additionally, the saturated OTKs look unbalanced with the less bright vest.

i would recommend looking into different legwear first. even solid black for now.

pic related is a punkish ouji coord that balances out contrasting patterns (stripes and dots) by matching them in terms of brightness, and having solid-color pieces to take some of the focus off so the clashing patterns are more trim than central. it also has the shorter shorts, but their poofiness sort of makes up for the length imo.

[Anonymous No.9117685]

>>9117662
also check out >>9102987 for inspo. the clashing patterns have similar saturation levels (bright, bold colors) and the layers help balance the busyness with depth.

[Anonymous No.9118011]

What are the go-to shoes for ouji?

I need to buy some shoes, but I don't want to get a ton of pairs that i won't wear often... what's a style that you can wear with many outfits?

I see a lot of creepers, and a lot of different styled boots, and RHS seem common... what's my best investment?

[Anonymous No.9118019]

>>9118011
short boots with a slight platform. either black or brown, depending on your general wardrobe preferences.

something like pic related. unless you prefer light colors or sweet, in which case...

[Anonymous No.9118021]

>>9118019
i would go white, with at least a slight heel.

[Anonymous No.9118022]

>>9118019
TY anon.

I'm lanky af so I might skip the platform, but I can definitely get a pair of boots like that.

[Anonymous No.9118141]

>>9117637
Shorts are definitely too short, and I would also recommend changing the legwarmers like the other anon suggested. Also, the hat looks a little off, but it may just be the angle in the picture. Everything else seems fine though!

[Anonymous No.9118713]

>>9118141
*legwear

[Anonymous No.9118729]

Would this blouse work for ouji? Assuming it was tucked in / under a vest

I'm not super into the big jabots and huge bows, I want something a *bit* more toned down.

[Anonymous No.9119368]

>>9117637
Blouse is a little too femme for the punk vibe: try finding something with a pointed collar instead of a lace-trimmed peter pan collar. Longer pants would also enhance the punkishness. Be sure to accessorize!

[Anonymous No.9119390]

>>9118729

Even tucked under a vest, the details are off. The collar is too square, and the pleats are awkward, especially without buttons to balance them out. I'll post some simple blouses for guidance. First up the (now defunct) BPN.

[Anonymous No.9119409]

>>9119390
Here's a cutesy nautical blouse from Atelier Boz.

[Anonymous No.9119459]

>>9119409
A military Boz blouse.

[Anonymous No.9119471]

>>9119459
Here's a really simple Boz blouse

[Anonymous No.9119477]

>>9119471
Typically Alice and the Piraes is frilly and feminine, but this blouse keeps it subtle.

[Anonymous No.9119493]

>>9119477
Annnnnnnd another AATP blouse, a little frillier, to end the dump.

[Anonymous No.9119505]

Thanks for the dump anon; I've been needing some sewing inspiration.
Finding blouses good for ouji can be really hard. A lot of blouses from major brands and taobao right now are open collar or really flat Peter Pan collars. At least AATP will always be there for us.

[Anonymous No.9120105]

>>9119390
Thanks anon. Popped onto closet child and there happened to be a blouse very similar to this so I snagged it. Appreciate your help!

[Anonymous No.9120595]

The chocolate lolita thread has made me want to see some cute examples of chocolate ouji. Anyone have any?

[Anonymous No.9120597]

>>9120595
kinda

[Anonymous No.9120601]

>>9120597
this one is way better, and more recent

[Anonymous No.9120604]

>>9120601
this one is for all you ants out there

[Anonymous No.9120605]

>>9120604
and this one is for everyone triggered by mismatched browns

[Anonymous No.9120611]

>>9120605
last one, President Buttcape

[Anonymous No.9121146]

Luna Planetarium series, with puffy pants and regular pants and some different colors and stuff

[Anonymous No.9121147]

>>9121146
white if that's your thing

[Anonymous No.9121150]

>>9121147
the random gears are killing me

but thanks for trying, China, we could use some options

[Anonymous No.9122088]

I've got so much boystyle stuff to sell. Where could I best do it? The shipping costs are going to be gigantic since I am in EU. Lolita stuff must sell so much faster than boystyle shit.:C

[Anonymous No.9122098]

>>9122088
Lace Market, or Lolita sales in English and/or Ouji Sales on Facebook.

What are you selling?

[Anonymous No.9122101]

>>9122088
have you tried Lacemarket, and are you a member of the Ouji Sales FB group?

you can also try ITT with a throwaway, or the BST thread. wouldn't hurt (...probably)

[Anonymous No.9122166]

>>9122088
Post it here so i can buy it all from you.

[Anonymous No.9122314]

So I'm working on a possible couple coord for my SO and I. Could I get some concrit? I know the accessories are a bit lacking, just wanted to get a good start first before I add to it.

[Anonymous No.9122391]

spotted cute but small IW ouji half pants, thought an anon might have interest: http://page14.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/s495717233

>>9122314
i am not sure where the color of the blouses appear on the prints, can you explain your reasoning?

i like the idea but colors seem off

[Anonymous No.9122445]

>>9122391
Well the blouse on the left is supposed to be black. So black is in the print. The other is wine to match the wine jsk, however I do agree that blouse in particular doesn't fit. I'll try to find something less saturated to match the print. The socks are from the same series to help pull in the wine color. The colors are meant to contrast with each other in a symmetrical way, but any suggestions on how to execute it better would be greatly appreciated!

[Anonymous No.9122890]

>>9101156
I started off wearing Lolita for two years. Personally, I feel prettier in the dresses but I'm much more masculine and comfortable in Ouji.
I didn't actually start wearing it until I got several pieces together. The problem is finding good pieces that aren't coats. It's miserable here, temperature-wise almost year round.

I still wear both styles but I find myself focusing more on acquiring vests and the like versus jsks.

[Anonymous No.9122917]

>>9101156
I started with lolita a few years ago, recently had a gender-related quarter-life crisis (?) decided to stop being so feminine and try to sort myself out, ouji lets me still have muh jfash but it fits my aethetics better. It's meant to be "boystyle" so I won't be harassed for not looking super feminine, but it's still somewhat feminine so the fact that I don't have a masculine face won't be a detriment either.

[Anonymous No.9125442]

>>9122314
I love it. please post pics if you ever do it

[Anonymous No.9126374]

>>9122445
okay, black for that blouse makes a lot more sense. i think a more neutral color fot both blouses, or at least the lolita's, would work better, and you can bring the colors of each one's main piece in via accessories (like the flowers on the ouji's jabot).

there are also shared colors in the print, like the moons, that you could play with.

[Anonymous No.9126464]

this is cool and all, and will probably be a part of a lot of Hamilton coords, but it doesn't make me any less tired of AatP's gaudy trim on all their ouji releases.

[Anonymous No.9127262]

>>9126464
This seems to be an unpopular opinion around here, but I actually kind of like the trim. To me it kind of makes the clothes look more... princely, I guess? I can definitely understand why you would be tired of it though, since they've been using it a lot recently. Hopefully they'll release some more things like Lewis Bennington and Schellingford soon!

[Anonymous No.9128427]

>>9127262
i hope for that also. for me, the trim is tacky in the wrong way. my aesthetic incorporates many tacky elements but gold braid and ric-rac type stuff is not a part of it

[Anonymous No.9129145]

any nice Meta ouji coords out there?

[Anonymous No.9130825]

We need memes, people. Why aren't there boystyle memes?

[Anonymous No.9130859]

>>9130825
there are barely even any boystyle reaction images. in my cgl reaction folder this is the only one

[Anonymous No.9130877]

>>9130825
there was a HP secret on Btb but i cannot find it because i am lazy

here is a gif i do not remember the source of, featuring a guy i hope has a sense of humor

[Anonymous No.9130883]

>>9130877
also i think you mean an IMAGE MACRO. this is 4chan, we don't insult memes by limiting them to text on a picture. come on.

will mini-dump some more image macros, reaction images, screen grabs etc.

[Anonymous No.9130885]

>>9130883

[Anonymous No.9130889]

>>9130885

[Anonymous No.9130891]

>>9130889
another ouji fights objectification

[Anonymous No.9130895]

>>9130891

[Anonymous No.9130899]

>>9130895

[Anonymous No.9130905]

>>9130899

[Anonymous No.9130910]

>>9130905
hover ouji

[Anonymous No.9130966]

Can lacemarket add an ouji/aristo tag? That would be wonderful. I've been looking through blouses for dayz and it's irritating to have to look through the entire site to find two or three ouji-able pieces.

[Anonymous No.9130969]

>>9130966
ask the LM devs, they have been checking the lolita thread if you cannot get a hold of them directly.

[Anonymous No.9131032]

>>9130825

Cringe.

[Anonymous No.9133651]

>>9129145
there is a meta thread if you did not see it. in pic related, left wears a Meta jacket

[Anonymous No.9133665]

>>9133651
this has a meta salopette, i think (or vest with shorts). the swan logo appears in some of the diamonds

[Anonymous No.9133912]

>>9130910
Would love to see more hover ouji

[Anonymous No.9135948]

>>9133912
that is the only example in existence until someone else gets the itch to make OC

[Anonymous No.9139542]

>tfw nothing ever truly replaced BPN

[Anonymous No.9141205]

>>9139542
fuck me i saw that jabot for 800 yen and didnt pick it up

[Anonymous No.9141284]

>>9139542
>get into ouji late in the game
>buy secondhand BPN blouse
>it's the most beautiful think I've ever worn
>sob silently and stalk secondhand sales forever

[Anonymous No.9142938]

>>9139542
At least we will have Boz

Look at this sexy coat

[Anonymous No.9143305]

What are good taobao brands?
I found so many ouji items there, but which are recognized as good ones?

[Anonymous No.9143449]

>>9143305
Little Dipper has released some cute ouji I believe, and Dear Celine. Infanta has had one or two ouji matches to their lolita releases, I think Neverland Lolita has had a few, and Surface Spell has some blouses and accessories that can work.

I tend to just stick with known taobao lolita brands that come out with ouji pieces sporadically.

[Anonymous No.9143539]

>>9143305
I like 69th department and ichigo 15.

[Anonymous No.9144167]

>>9101707
There's one on LM rn.

[Anonymous No.9147043]

>>9122088
Do you have white shorts or pants?

[Anonymous No.9148431]

>>9147043
Not that anon, but here.
http://egl.lacemarket.us/auctions/heart-e-white-ouji-pants

[Anonymous No.9148531]

>>9099716
I agree about the hair, it's beautiful and he always looks so stylish but I don't think it's necessarily the most flattering look. I think some kinda androgynous prince type hairstyle with bangs or long side bangs maybe parted to the side would look so much better.

[Anonymous No.9150857]

>>9148531
Is it just the two of us in these threads?

[Anonymous No.9150997]

>>9150857
>Posters: 34

anon pls

[Anonymous No.9151004]

>>9099519
>bought these
>they fit perfectly
>start doing more squats
>last time I wore them the buttons flew off

[Anonymous No.9151014]

>>9148431
>http://egl.lacemarket.us/auctions/heart-e-white-ouji-pants

Not exactly what I'm looking for, but that was damn nice of you, thanks!

[Anonymous No.9151076]

>>9151004
Bodyline buttons are badly buttoned, better get better buttons

[Anonymous No.9151088]

Consider: lederhosen ouji

[Anonymous No.9151389]

>>9151088
folk ouji

it could work if coorded well imo

[Anonymous No.9153131]

Any suggestions for suitable headwear for Aristocrat?

[Anonymous No.9153249]

>>9153131
Full sized wool hats or brand shit. Pic related is from Boz, but you might be able to thrift something decent.

[Anonymous No.9153264]

>>9153131
big and teased or otherwise creative hair

[Anonymous No.9153267]

>>9153264

[Anonymous No.9153269]

>>9153267
a clip of some kind can work with this type of hair also.

[Anonymous No.9153273]

>>9153269
otherwise, as other anon said, full size wool (or silk?) hats can also work. quality matters; expect to pay minimum 60USD and more likely around 90USD for a good quality, basic hat.

[Anonymous No.9153329]

>>9153264
Mana's got you covered on all your big hair looks for inspo.

>>9153273
I can't agree more, I tried to cheap out on my first two top hats and both looked awful and giant. I spent $70 on a wool one and it looks really good and fits well.

[Anonymous No.9153417]

>>9153329
you know when you give your dog a bath and the poor fellow seems to shrink in the water as his fur gets wet?

i get that feeling from pics like this.

[Anonymous No.9156867]

some creative ouji coords posted in >>9151809

[Anonymous No.9159215]

unimpressed with the new one-size AatP ouji set. if they plan to keep doing printless ouji, the least they could do is make the garments worth the price by using fine details.

[Anonymous No.9159219]

>>9159215
pic related

[Anonymous No.9159668]

>>9159219
The waist of the pants comes up way too high, at least for how plain it is. Maybe if there were more details it would look better, but as is, there's basically just a big block of solid color at the top.

[Anonymous No.9159705]

>>9159668
I really like the breeches/salopette. I know a lot of people don't, but I see a lot of potential with them. Been looking for some breeches in that color with beige/gold/whatever that is trim for a long time. The closest I got was some shorts from IW. Putting a jacket over that part solves any problems with the corset, and with some creativity it'll be fine with just a blouse too. But those photos are really bad in general, I like the stock photos though.

I still long for some nice gothic looking stuff from aatp again. Maybe soon.

[Anonymous No.9160666]

>>9151389
I actually like this. Maybe I should have a go at making something like this.

[Anonymous No.9160701]

Alright - I have this coat that I started making for a cosplay for a fandom I lost interest in and have had shoved into the bottom of my WIP box for a while (obviously it's unfinished, unhemmed, etc). I'm thinking of using it as a base for a kodona coat. Does anyone have any suggestions for what I should do with it?

[Anonymous No.9160877]

>>9160701
>Does anyone have any suggestions for what I should do with it?
first, never say "kodona" again. this is a forum for Japanese fashion, not shit Westerners made up.

second, it is fairly plain, and ouji tends not to use such prominent zippers. even decorative buttons to cover the zipper could work, if taking the zipper out is more work than it is worth. something to make it less visible.

[Anonymous No.9160942]

>>9160877
The zip's just tacked on and I'm planning on removing it. However, because the coat is cut for a zip, I'll have to use tabs for buttonholes rather than buttoning it up like a normal coat.

[Anonymous No.9163684]

>>9160701
wait or chest detailing could be cool. definitely some kind of trim for the cuffs, collar, hem, etc. will post a couple coats for inspo

[Anonymous No.9163686]

>>9163684
>wait
*waist

here, some plainer coats use buttons as eye-catching detail

[Anonymous No.9163689]

>>9163686
also, and i am not sure what the proper term is, but large or stylized collars or lapels are often a feature of boystyle coats.

[Anonymous No.9163694]

>>9163689
>tfw i post a vest

eh, same principle. another possibility, if you feel like going ham on this project, is to remove the zipper as well as a portion of the coat surrounding the zipper, so the sides of the coat will not meet. then attach a false vest front that buttons normally. a lot of ouji coats do this, and having the front mostly open lets you show off the details of the coord inside (and helps make the garment more suitable to wear indoors)

[Anonymous No.9163708]

>>9163694
also consider using a contrasting fabric for trim. this jacket would be pretty meh without its tartan. the added color can actually open up coording possibilities the way a plain black coat cannot. since a lot of EGL fashion involves balancing colors, a coat that is just one huge block of a single color is actually fairly limiting.

even simple trim like in >>9163689 can help break up the black and widen the range of potential coords.

hope this helps

[Anonymous No.9163788]

>>9163708
Thank you so much! This was the sort of visual inspiration I was looking for. I'll come back later when I've finished.

[Anonymous No.9164485]

Can larger people carry this look off well ever? I've never really seen anyone that was larger wearing boystyle.

[Anonymous No.9167028]

>>9163788
i can dump more if you like. for future reference, if you straightforwardly ask for inspo pics more people would probably respond.

>>9164485
pic related is chubby and cute in my opinion, but not exactly what i would call "large." how "large" are you imagining?

generally, brands do not carry larger sizes, and custom options for indie brands are not always scaled to flatter a larger figure. i think very large ouji and aristocrat can look good: consider Henry the 8th, the plus-size king with a pretty decent wardrobe, or other portly dandies and royals throughout history. but because weight and size are taboo topics, people often do not know how to dress for their size. and since the icons of boystyle are usually slim cute or androgynous Asians, people do not easily imagine coords that would look better on someone who does not have that bodytype.

[Anonymous No.9167034]

>>9167028
a historic figure, not large but certainly chubby: dandy icon Beau Brummell

[Anonymous No.9167038]

>>9167034
actually screw that, i have no confidence that is Brummell despite what the filename claims. wrong everything. still, he looks all right to me

[Anonymous No.9167090]

>>9164485
Of course larger people can wear ouji, like other anon said its more a matter of finding or making clothes that fit.
My main suggestion is if you have a rounder face to practice using make up to give yourself a more masculine look. I love baby face but it looks odd in ouji.
Other tips:
-if OTKs don't go over your knee use tights instead
-make sure patterned leg wear doesn't look too warped
-pay attention to sleeve circumference on short sleeved blouses
-avoid shorts that go more than a few inches above the knee
-bulky shoes can help balance out your silloette
-try to look confident even if you don't feel it
-putumayo shorts are great if you got booty

[Anonymous No.9167131]

[Anonymous No.9167137]

[Anonymous No.9167140]

[Anonymous No.9167194]

>>9167131
Why are you posting ancient coords without context?

[Anonymous No.9168330]

pet peeves for boystyle:

>gap between vest and pants so blouse or even skin shows through
>fairy-kei style "bloomers" as pants
>short-shorts
>the way puffy pants look on thicc thighs
>people who treat the fashion as inherently sexual

what are your current peeves?

[Anonymous No.9168356]

>>9167137
I really loved the idea behind this outfit but the fabric looks so shiny and cheap. something about the cut is also super unflattering

[Anonymous No.9168359]

>>9168330
>short-shorts
How short do you guys feel is too short? I recently got some meta shorts and they're about 1in longer than my finger tips if have my hands down. I'm not sure if it's too short, but they look rather cute. Pic related, the shorts.

As for pet peeves:
>goofy and cheap looking mini hats (Attp ones tend to look ok)
>bloomers as shorts
>tight looking clothing

[Anonymous No.9168372]

>>9167194
It's a boy style thread, thought I'd share some boy style I saw recently. I don't know about the soufflesong set or the black outfit, but that thaddeus vest is from 2 years ago. Didn't realize that was ancient by lolita standards

[Anonymous No.9168373]

>>9168356
Yeah I like the idea too, esp with the shiny gold, but the fabric is a bit thin and lacks enough structure for most boystyle. Maybe if they had used it for the lapels or pocket flaps like how AAtP does with some of their ouji pieces

[Anonymous No.9168391]

>>9168372
note the OP warning about "random picspam":
>Random picspam discouraged; we've seen most of it by now.

this thread is more discussion-based, like the other generals, rather than a place to imagedump.

>>9168373
>the fabric is a bit thin and lacks enough structure for most boystyle.
this articulates the problem i have had with that set, thank you

[Anonymous No.9168416]

>>9168359
>How short do you guys feel is too short?
it depends on the coord (and legs). i prefer nothing above mid-thigh, but that is personal preference as brands keep making shorter shorts. but if they are short, they need to have a shape. form-fitting short shorts are not ouji, imo.

this looks bad and cheap and costumey, because the shortness combines with the lack of material and the harlequin pattern to look like part of a Sexy Clown Halloween store costume: >>9102978

additionally, the huge expanse of bare legs, combined with the sock garters and garter-like cuff of the shorts with skin peeking through, is unbalanced and overly sexualized. for shorts of that length, tights or OTKs look better. a long gilet could also offset the flimsiness of those shorts.

for this coord >>9109416, i do not l
personally like the length but the shorts are much more balanced with the coord. you can nitpick the solidness of the tights but given this seems to have been worn while travelling, it looks pretty comfortable and put-together. the shorts have sturdy and ample material, and the way they are layered with the blouse and vest helps form a nicr silhouette (the best flares out and over the puffiness of the shorts).

you can also check the replies to >>9117637 for more thoughts about shorts length.

[Anonymous No.9168420]

>>9168416
>this looks bad and cheap and costumey, because the shortness combines with the lack of material and the harlequin pattern to look like part of a Sexy Clown Halloween store costume: >>9102978 #
shit, wrong post. meant to link to >>9109413

[Anonymous No.9169391]

>>9168391
To be 100% fair, the thread was kind of dying. A few pics in a dying thread isn't exactly a travesty, if it revives the thread.

[Anonymous No.9169911]

snagged pic related off of Facebook. the blouse is Triple Fortune and i kind of like it. considering Kaie and Babi are androgynous visual kei artists and act super gay toward lolitas at conventions, i am surprised they design and sell so little ouji-appropriate items.

>>9169391
if posted less than an hour after the last post, though...

[Anonymous No.9170234]

>tfw h.Naoto is restocking its dragon scale vest and i am still a broke-ass ouji

[Anonymous No.9170276]

>>9170234
what

WHAT

[Anonymous No.9170415]

>>9170276
still available on the international webshop, anon!

[Anonymous No.9170488]

>>9169911
That blouse is glorious and I have a mighty need.

[Anonymous No.9170502]

>>9170234
>¥28,000
Sigh....

[Anonymous No.9170637]

>>9170502
a used of the original sold on LM recently for $120. it is a sad time to have no money.

[Anonymous No.9172264]

ouji vloggers, give us an update. why haven't you made your channel yet?

[Anonymous No.9176894]

HEY YO I'M JUST LIKE MY COUNTRY
YOUNG, SCRAPPY AND HUNGRY

[Anonymous No.9176920]

>>9176894
This is glorious. I hope someone buys the set and wears it to the show.

[Anonymous No.9177169]

okay, i am not a sweet ouji, but this is really cute

[Anonymous No.9179001]

An interview with Adel Hagar, whom we affectionately call Grandpa Adel, with English translation. He talks about the struggle to find ouji for Western men's sizes and mentions Ikemen Mode, a men's fashion label he and a friend will debut at RuffleCon.

http://colombianlolitas.tumblr.com/post/150176386597/adel-hagar-un-caballero-que-nos-inspira-adel

[Anonymous No.9180446]

do you need boobs for something like pic related to look good?

[Anonymous No.9180490]

>>9180446
I don't think so since it laces up somewhat in the back, you can tighten it more on top if it's gaping. I'm flat as a board and the underbust pieces I own look fine for the most part. Sometimes you do have to tighten the top a little more because of gaping in the shoulder area, at least for me.

The mannequin on Sheglit's store is pretty small chested and these cuts look kinda bad on moderate/larger chested girls in general (too much emphases and often chests are too big to fit over them).

[Anonymous No.9180665]

>>9180490
thanks for the perspective and tips!

[Anonymous No.9180883]

>>9180446
desu I think these look awful on people with boobs.

[Anonymous No.9182810]

What do you think about ouji and make up?

[Anonymous No.9182949]

>>9182810
wear it

[Anonymous No.9184651]

>>9182810
Try genderless kei makeup if you are a manly man who wants to soften his features

Try dansou makeup if you are a womanly woman looking to butch her features

[Anonymous No.9184787]

zipper pouch for boystylers:
http://s.aliexpress.com/VJbUZ326

[Anonymous No.9184897]

>>9172264
humans scare me

[Anonymous No.9185591]

Are there any Japanese brands that put out ouji outfits in jeweltones/colors other than black aside from AatP? I'm in love with this style/color of jacket: https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a1z10.1-c.w5003-15100856043.2.PA3lzn&id=521119147872&scene=taobao_shop but I don't remember seeing to much of this from JP brands.

[Anonymous No.9185633]

>>9185591
Atelier Boz has a some jackets that resemble that slightly and sometimes releases styles in red, blue and green even sometimes. Excentrique (pictured on the bottom) also has some jackets in nice colors but it is mostly a sea of black with ouji brands and releases. I'd love to see more color, in particular red & green available.

[Anonymous No.9185636]

>>9185633
Metamorphose also has some colored ouji sets but a lot of them are funky weird shades. This one is nice though. Victorian Maiden and Innocent World has a few jackets/pants that also are colored but the sizing tends to run smaller for them.

[Anonymous No.9185655]

>>9185633
Would you happen to know about any brands that have red or green colored blouses?

[Anonymous No.9185698]

>>9185655
Not that Anon, but R Series immediately comes to mind

Link to blouses on their intl shop: http://r-series-lolita-fashion-official-online-store.myshopify.com/collections/blouse

[Anonymous No.9185702]

>>9185698
Oh whoops, just saw your earlier post... Disclaimer: R Series is a Chinese brand

[Anonymous No.9185838]

>>9185655
Atelier Boz again for red blouses that work for ouji. They also sometimes come in blue.
The Moitie blouse here comes in red too but I seen to have lost the picture I had of it.

Green is very rare for a blouse that isn't actually blue in color. These two blouses from Meta and VM is a nice shade. I own the dress that goes with the VM blouse and it's a gorgeous moss color.

Any brand has red blouses in general just not all would look great with ouji. And AaTP also has red blouses designed for ouji.

[Anonymous No.9185909]

>>9184897
valid reason is valid

>>9185655
keep an eye on brands such as h. Naoto Steam, Putumayo, Ozz On. no guarantees but they have released jewellish colorways, and other colors often ignored. worth looking into.

[Anonymous No.9185913]

>>9185838
a small peeve of mine is this continued proliferation of olive green items. is a nice emerald too much to ask for?

pic related is acceptable but Chinese, and still not quite the "cool" green i would enjoy.

[Anonymous No.9185966]

>>9172264
All I have is an iPhone and my partners apartment (now our apartment) is a terrible backdrop.

What would you want to see out of an ouji vlog?

[Anonymous No.9186054]

>>9185966
here is a list.

1. makeup and hair/wig styling tips, especially for men. male style videos on YT don't really go for the ouji aesthetic. (using a friend's face is fine.)

2. reviews of purchases. more than unboxing, a critical overview of the item. it is rare that ouji pieces are seen outside of brand ads or coord shots.

3. "lifestyle" topics. do you have an interest or hobby that is ouji- or your general aeathetic-related? talk or demonstrate it in ouji.

4. tag videos/challenges. it may feel lame but i find a lot of vloggers by looking for things like "Lolita tries Beanboozled" or whatever silly tag is meme-trending. ("Shit oujis say" NEEDS to get made.) Prince Mar's ouji tag could be a good place to start, i was kind of sad no one picked it up.

5. event coverage. comm meetups (if members consent to being filmed), interviews with comm members about their coords, comparisons with other oujis attending where possible. conventions, fashion shows, fashion walks, travel vlogs.

6. making obvious sponsorships obvious. we know when brands have been shopping a product around to different YouTubers and it is insulting when the vlogger pretends the video is not a sponsored review. you can make a fun video without trying to trick us about why it's being made.

7. skits! if you feel like risking views on your ability to write, direct, and/or act. the Ouji Accessory skit has had a pretty big impact on the ouji scene, and its basic script just pokes gentle fun at what it is like being ouji in a lolita world. if original content isn't your forte, try ouji parodies. Deerstalker (again) hit gold with many of their lolita parodies, and that beautiful lolita Kingsman parody was pretty epic.

8. transformations and style swaps. you, your partner, your friend, whoever. make your boss into a prince, or let a lolita doll you up. try for an authentic Mana-inspired EGA look.

9. trust your gut and follow your heart and take any critique with a pinch of salt.

[Anonymous No.9187251]

>>9176894
Fuck I need this in my life (and need to replace those sad epaulettes with real ones)

[Anonymous No.9187287]

>>9179001
Interesting read. I always liked his style, even when he wears sweet ouji he pulls it off so well.

[Anonymous No.9187347]

if you like sweet Taobao prints on thin fabric, this Halloween set is for you.

>>9187287
yeah, i was never sure if he was into it or if he was going along with it for his partner. it's cool to know his thoughts.

[Anonymous No.9187353]

>>9187347
This is otherwise cute but that pocket...

[Anonymous No.9187366]

>>9187347
I like the purplexblack diamond pattern on this but not the print. If they had that pattern on a jacket or vest+swallowtail I'd be interested. Would make for something very sinister/whimsical.

The whole top half is kinda bad in general with the cut.

[Anonymous No.9188248]

>>9187353
cover with a frilltastic jabot

>>9187366
agreed. we need more all-over patterns and less "dark solid with huge metallic trim" stuff.

[Anonymous No.9189930]

Fun and unique ouji Halloween coord ideas:

>Sporting-themed (pic related)
Golf, polo, fencing, baseball, horseback riding, get all white and yuppie with that shit
>Doctor/nurse
Why let lolitas have all the syringes?
>Police
Military is already a thing, and everybody loves a uniform. Well, if you're in the USA, maybe hold off a year for this one.
>Priest
Win an instant squad of nunlitas with this one
>Mr. Darcy
Just do it senpai.
>Soda jerk
To go with all the Diner Doll retro coords
>Mickey Mouse
To go with all those Cinema Doll coords
>Underrated anime/manga character
Sick of being called Ciel? Be Lady Oscar. Or Utena. Or defy those Kuroshitheads and be the O.G. ouji, Cain Motherfucking Hargeaves, the EGAest motherfucker in England.
>Baker, candyman, chocolatier
AP might never release anything ouji but their OTKs work just as well with half-pants
>Shironuri clown
None of your shit matches or fits right anyway
>John Leigh
+500 Edge Points
>Mr. Yan
-1000 Relevancy Points
>Prince
Be king of the kareoke meetup as you belt out "Purple Rain" in your matching purple coord just in case nobody got it
>Somebody's Boyfriend
Wear a beard and get ready for instant likes. No makeup required!

Hope this inspires you, /ouG/. What are you doing for Halloweeb anyway?

[Anonymous No.9189933]

>>9185966
>What would you want to see out of an ouji vlog?
Here's an idea: >>9189930
Feel free to rip me off entirely or do your own Halloween inspo type thing. Bonus if you can create some goofy ass coords.

Also guro ouji needs to be more of a thing.

[Anonymous No.9189936]

>>9189933
Also also, never forget Handyman Ouji is a thing. Or whatever the fuck AatP meant to do with pic related is a thing.

[Anonymous No.9190823]

>>9189930
>Halloweeb
>weeb
oh u.

nothing weeby. probably Black Phillip-inspired, or a similar devillish thing.

[Anonymous No.9190985]

>>9189930
I like you, anon. You can stay

[Anonymous No.9191007]

>>9185909
>>9185838
>>9185636
>>9185633
Thanks, these were very helpful. I'm really digging Innocent World's blouses.

[Anonymous No.9191314]

>>9191007
Innocent World's blouses have been the best. They can be small and short-waisted sometimes, but I still love them and they're versatile .

[Anonymous No.9191552]

ehhhh

no thanks, AatP.

[Anonymous No.9192714]

Is it possible to look good in ouji if you are a 5'9" scrawny white boy?

[Anonymous No.9192803]

>>9192714

Isn't that the ideal? Most burandos cater to average Japanese measurements, given that Japanese males have an average height of 170cm and the population is generally not fat, that sounds pretty close to your description, so you should be able to fit in a fair number of things. It's on you to style yourself to look good after that, but at least you have a leg up on those who can't find clothes to fit into.

This coming from an Asian girl who has no experience buying from the men's side of burandos, though.

[Anonymous No.9192834]

>>9192714
definitely, that is a good size. you might need to stick to brands with men's sizing; buttcape's blog has a good spreadsheet of online shops, including which ones may stock sizes bigger than "tiny asian lady."

[Anonymous No.9193759]

cool new AatP boots

[Anonymous No.9194091]

>>9094080
i found the guy in OP's pic's Instagram:

https://www.instagram.com/gothmura_vmpr/

he has pretty good taste and stays on the gothic side.

[Anonymous No.9194224]

>>9192714
As a 5'9ft woman, it's a good height, just watch out for sizing as it can get weird. Some blouses and jackets will hit you on your ribcage so be prepared to use that as you waist measurement when buying things. I have almost never not had something hit lower ribcage because of my height, except some mens sized items. I mainly buy in lady's sizes still though as men's tend to be too large on me in shoulder width and bust, but a man may not have those issues even if you weigh around the same.

Sleeve length and pant cuff size is also worth watching out for as some pants will sit higher on your legs and therefore on a larger part of the thigh. If sleeves are slightly too short, wrist cuffs work to fix that.

[Anonymous No.9194910]

>>9099526
does she have an insta?

[Anonymous No.9196572]

>>9192714
add the men's closetchild online shop to your rounds of second-hand sites to check. most of what is there is not ideal for ouji, but now and then a jacket or vest that is oujiable will appear.

>pic related, http://www.m-closetchild.jp/phone/product/79112

[Anonymous No.9196583]

>>9196572
plus, if your shoulders are too wide for brand blouses, they have reasonably priced modifiable blouses with cool prints. pic related is listed as 44.5cm shoulders and could be easily frilled up. not as ideal as just custom ordering a blouse from indie/taobao shops. but better than a plain dress shirt.

[Anonymous No.9197364]

>Be in China
>Expect to spend all my money on Taobao ouji stuff
>...
>?!
>Realize that it's actually hard to find ouji there and also selection is kind of limited as most of stores offer one set or few pieces at most.
>What's worse I'm tall.

I didn't buy anything. I'm really sad. Even if there were plenty of accessories I was horribly afraid to buy anything because I don't want to become nouji or a lot of ouji stuff borders or is marked as lolita.

[Anonymous No.9197368]

>>9192714
>>9194224
I'm >>9197364 and 173cm in ID card. How do I pick right measurements? I can fit in almost everything, but height (and possibly shoulders) make it difficult to guess if something's long enough and Taobao pieces are very short.
Pumpkin pants are around 37cm. That feels short.

Point two is that I'm horribly afraid of being nouji or seem as if I was wearing weird kuroshitsuji clothes rather than the ouji fashion. I see people sometimes comment that they use normie clothes, but what is the border between a nouji and a real prince?

[Anonymous No.9197498]

Precious Clove posted this as part of their preview for their upcoming Romeo and Juliet print. Thoughts?

None of the lolita dresses being previewed are the same blue, so I don't know if these are supposed to match the dresses or not.

[Anonymous No.9197500]

>>9197368
wear brand clothes that fit your body and match each other, and wear makeup and have styled hair or a wig.

>>9197498
i like the coat, from what i can see of it.

[Anonymous No.9197533]

>>9197368

No advice for the measurements, but the rest:

It's easier to buy that stuff in Japan, lolita's more popular in China but Japan had the vkei and goth scene going pretty strongly for at least decades, which means there's brands (and therefore secondhand clothes) that catered to goth and vkei dudes, China mostly has "gothic cosplay" and ouji being designed as an afterthought to lolita.

With that in mind, I'd say be wary of taobao ouji, especially if the model photos are on a girl and not a guy -- they're generally designed for the same clientele as the girls who wear lolita dresses, so they're definitely going to be short because they're designed for 160cm girls, not 173cm dudes/tall girls.

To avoid the butler cosplay look, choose clothes that are less frilly, aim more for polished pieces that look expensive rather than have cute prints or have a lot of lace on them. Draw your examples from the romantic goth (male) look, actual historical men's fashion, or go outright into vkei. There's a reason sweet ouji with matching lolita prints hasn't quite taken off, it seems difficult to put the same frills in pink on ouji and not have it end up looking a bit like Kuroshitsuji cosplay.

The border between nouji and ouji? I don't think there's an answer. cgl nitpicks every lolita they come across for very petty reasons anyway, I don't think you can come out with an outfit that wins over every single person. So just put together an outfit that you feel good in, and enjoy yourself.

[Anonymous No.9197619]

I see how everyone complains about ouji clothes being designed for 160cm tall girls and I am around that height but the clothes is on the other hand way too big for me. And all the measurments from lolibrary are like 10-20 cm bigger to fit me. I wonder for whom they desing clothes for honestly...

[Anonymous No.9197686]

>>9197619
what brands are you going after? some run smaller than others. iirc Miho Matsuda is pretty tiny.

[Anonymous No.9197688]

>>9197368
37cm does sound short, I'd stick with pants closer to knee length. For blouses in taobao, most of the ones I have are L size and they are short in the torso length and one is short sleeve-wise. I usually tuck them in so it's not too bad. Shoulder measurements are where things might mess you up. I lucked out with 32cm shoulders despite being 175cm.

>>9197619
I don't know honestly, thats why I like Atelier Boz and MMM for their ladys sizes, they tend to fit me much better than AaTP's stuff. 93cm+ bust on a woman makes me think they're designing them for short, mega stacked women.

[Anonymous No.9197725]

>>9196572
I just looked through 182 pages of stuff, picked out dozens of things I really liked and found that everything was way too big. I thought a sub 30 inch waist would be more common, and I'm a size 36 jacket and everything was like 44 minimum

I will forever live between men and women's sizing

>>9197498
I think the lower half here looks awkward, the pants are very form fitting but the boots are a bit too big and the jacket flares out too much. The jacket itself looks ok and the blouse could be nice.

[Anonymous No.9197867]

>>9197725
you should fit women's sizes just fine then. the difference is not too big.

[Anonymous No.9197898]

>>9197867
very tight shoulders and short sleeves are usually the issue. i thought i could get some comfy casual stuff from there but it's all pretty huge

[Anonymous No.9197903]

>>9197898
it is only a bit bigger than the larger end of what is sold on regular closet child.

also, the general rule in fashion is buy for your widest point and have the rest tailored to fit. no one truly fits clothes off the rack.

[Anonymous No.9197984]

I see. I unfortunately prefer AaTP and trying on their clothes shocked me for being few sizes bigger. But I guess I should look more for other brands then...

[Anonymous No.9198053]

>>9197984
did you try regular or mens?

are you tiny anon or tall anon? please quote the post you reply to!

[Anonymous No.9198093]

I lack many coord photos besides my own that I don't want to post. Please accept my collection of every cool hnaoto thing ever made instead.

>>9197903
I suppose I was hoping for.. basically the same size, with more masculine clothing. My main issue is my shoulders are 46cm and chest is 34. Women's sizes usually have small shoulders and extra room in the chest, and mens at least fit my shoulders but are baggy everywhere else. I'm looking at like casual shirts and sweaters, not the sort of thing I'd get tailored. Blouses for ouji will always be too small and I've sort of accepted the discomfort that comes with that - I only buy secondhand and the idea of paying full price for some custom offbrand stuff is miserable to me.

>>9197984
You might have to pay full price for custom offbrand stuff, god forbid. Just blouses in particular. I'm 170cm and the sleeves come up a bit short sometimes, but that's mainly a shoulder problem I think. Your best bet if you must wear aatp is to go for vests, the lack of shoulders on them will mean one less thing to worry about, and a fair number them have corset lacing.

[Anonymous No.9198190]

>>9198093
Friend, are you sure you're measuring your shoulder-width right? That seems like a big difference, even for a dude. Shoulder measurements are traditionally between the joints, not edge-to-edge. (If you are, sorry about your CLAMP shoulders)

For bigger blouses, Little Dipper has some ouji-suitable stuff and their size-range goes up pretty high - 40cm shoulder/110cm bust. My curse is pants - I have the dubious fortune of being tall (174cm), broad-shouldered (40cm), and curvy, and trying to find pants to fit 114cm hips is a quest I have not yet succeeded in. Not opposed to paying for custom-sizing, but so far Ichigo15 is the only place that does custom-sizing and has design aesthetics that appeal to me. I can sew quite well but ugggh I hate making pants. I had actually intended to go solidly for ouji when I started out last year, but the sizing flexibility in a lot of brand JSKs meant I've been only doing that so far.

[Anonymous No.9198594]

>>9197533
>With that in mind, I'd say be wary of taobao ouji, especially if the model photos are on a girl and not a guy -- they're generally designed for the same clientele as the girls who wear lolita dresses, so they're definitely going to be short because they're designed for 160cm girls, not 173cm dudes/tall girls.
I hate being tall and feeling weird and never fitting any cute clothes so much that I'd like to never go out ;_;

[Anonymous No.9198662]

>>9198190
Measuring by the pointy bone bits I'm getting 44. I think it's because I'm underweight and not filling out my frame very well. I am a hungry skeleton. I have a lot of issues with shorts since the crotches tend too be too high, and the boz pants I have are skin tight around the ass and get baggier as they go down my legs, it is very unfortunate. I've had good experiences with Ozz On thus far.

>>9198594
For ouji there's Technotropism at.. something like 180cm, and I know quite a few lolitas that are 170cm or over and also where general cute fashion.

[Anonymous No.9200150]

For people who wear ouji and are part of a comm; are you usually the only ouji at your events?

[Anonymous No.9200200]

>>9200150
yes, usually, but there are others who wear ouji sometimes. the last meetup there were 2 of us. for major meetups (ILD, holidays) everyone seems to prefer to wear lolita.

[Anonymous No.9200258]

>>9120601
I'd love to see this a tad more fitted and as a split tailcoat

[Anonymous No.9200384]

How girly is too girly for ouji-appropriate shoes? I have pic related, the heel is 3 inches

[Anonymous No.9201039]

hey /ouG/ found this super cheap Axes Femme classic-oujiable set someone might like:

http://www.maidenclothing.net/script/detail.php?id=154067641001

>>9200258
yes. i am hoping for good things from their brand.

>>9200384
those look fine. generally a thicker heel is better, but high heels used to be worn by men and ouji takes a lot of cues from historic/fantasy fashion so you should be fine.

[Anonymous No.9203699]

another fringy offering from AatP. they sure do love home decor trimmings.

[Anonymous No.9204239]

I have so much trouble finding blouses that I like.

[Anonymous No.9204251]

>>9204239
Ditto. My favorite are high neck long sleeves without any kind of elastic or weird boob darts/ruffles. Surprisingly hard to find.

[Anonymous No.9204419]

>>9204239
>>9204251
double ditto.

i prefer high or pointy collars, 40cm shoulders, no boob accents or darts, and no sweet accents. only the three main Japanese mens gothic brands tend to put such blouses out (4 if BPN counts), so budget options to my taste do not exist.

>tfw daily scouring for second-hand Moitie, Boz, and for laughs, alice auaa
>tfw Taobao is forever too sweet/cut for women even at bigger sizes
>tfw AatP looks like cosplay to me

[Anonymous No.9204541]

>>9204419

And then even when stuff does show up on lacemarket the bust could never fit a dude.
http://egl.lacemarket.us/auctions/aatp-2015-lp-blouse

[Anonymous No.9204543]

Hi guys! I'm very new to 4chan and ouji, I'm sorry if this post doesn't follow the rules.. but I was wondering how to get started wearing ouji? Are there any ((cheap)) stores you'd recommend?

[Anonymous No.9204581]

>>9204541
i use Japanese 2nd hand. have rarely found good things on LM.

>>9204543
look at the original post (OP) of this thread. it has links to where you can start out.

[Anonymous No.9205170]

Trying to throw together a first Taobao coord before Youmacon in November and keep getting overwhelmed at how many different pieces I need.

[Anonymous No.9205190]

Why does ichigo15 only ever have 1 shitty picture of every item?

[Anonymous No.9205195]

>>9099519

If someone can find me a vest or jacket to go with these I'll buy it and review it for them. I just can't really find anything I like, but I'm new so it's hard to know where to look besides the stores in the excel.

[Anonymous No.9205898]

>>9205170
>>9205195
i feel as though you both may be overthinking it.

[Anonymous No.9206602]

>>9099524
i didn't shoop my eyes man my left eye is just permanently squinting

>>9099519
aatp tourinot vest is in the pic above and is really versatile, it was on sale for 50% off not too long ago and regularly goes for under $70 secondhand. the buttons aren't gold, but that is easily fixed.

>>9204251
it's really hard to find anything that isn't too frilly or covered in thick lace. ozz on is worth checking out, my favourite blouses are from there.

[Anonymous No.9207353]

>>9206602
>i didn't shoop my eyes man my left eye is just permanently squinting
bad luck gull

>ozz on is worth checking out, my favourite blouses are from there.
i like their gilets, but find their blouses are not quite to my taste, usually due to what looks like boob-specific cuts and trim. they are an underrated brand.

[Anonymous No.9209743]

Most ouji is more like cosplay than most lolita is.

[Anonymous No.9209752]

>>9209743
I'll take the bait, why do you feel this way? As someone who wears both lolita and ouji, ouji is far more wearable outside and more generally accepted in the public too. It's definitely the opposite, even if lolita is also not a costume at all.

Who do you think we're cosplaying as?

[Anonymous No.9209776]

>>9203699
AatP flip-flops between 'I love it take my money' and 'oh god set it on fire' for me - the home decor trim stuff is generally the latter.

People looking for plainer shirts might have luck with some of the Western goth brands - it requires a certain amount of flipping past awful satin and peasant shirts, but there's some good pieces and the sizing is more generous
>https://draculaclothing.com/gentlemens-clothing-c-22/shirts-c-22-61.html
>http://www.retroscopefashions.com/mens1.html

[Anonymous No.9210539]

>>9203699
10/10 would run my fingers through

[Anonymous No.9210794]

>>9209776
A lot of the Dracula a Clothing blouses look like poor rip offs of Boz blouses. The quality of stuff on there just looks bad in general.

[Anonymous No.9212267]

>>9210794
yeah. Western goth brands have shitty options for menswear.

maybe Ikemen Mode will do clothes. just accessories on their FB so far.

[Anonymous No.9213253]

speaking of blouses, wish more brands would make like Chinese brand Suzin and put cool prints on them

[Anonymous No.9213269]

>>9213253
Besides the brooch and bow (the jabot below is nice) this looks really good. Interesting how the pattern isn't on the sides or sleeves.

[Anonymous No.9213699]

>>9213253
Brands need to do more historic, patterned, and fairytale-style stuff imo.

tired of living in the land of window treatments, schoolboys, and butlers.

[Anonymous No.9213704]

>>9213699
this is Disney costumery but more ouji like this would be a dream

[Anonymous No.9213712]

>>9213704
Moving away from Disney wedding outfits...Rococo was the height of menswear, oujis love open jackets with waistcoats, and that combo presents many opportunities for creative trim/prints outside the usual Roland-style jackets. What if oujis had vertical prints along the sides of jackets, like so, the way lolitas have border prints?

[Anonymous No.9213713]

>>9213712
better example

[Anonymous No.9213715]

>>9213713
i am now considering attaching nice ribbon along the edge of one of my jackeys or coats, or the hems of my pants, pocket flaps, etc., like in this pic. may post results.

[Anonymous No.9213742]

>>9191552
in real it's really beautifull. i want the black version so much!

[Anonymous No.9214050]

>>9213712
>>9213713
The border prints/embroidery on these are gorgeous. Simple patterns and flower prints I'm all for. Add those and more vibrant colors.

[Anonymous No.9217353]

Tell me about the salopettes, what kind of body type do you need to pull them off? I've seen more men wearing them than girls so would it be better to have a figure with long straight legs?

[Anonymous No.9218233]

>>9217353
yes, curves usually throw off salopettes. but it depends on what kind. romper-style ones seem to never look good on anyone but cute petite girls, but regular overalls-type ones can work on many body types. depends on the cut

[Anonymous No.9218355]

Hey there anons. Looking for some advice. I'm putting together my first ouji coord for a Halloween meet and I'm a bit stuck. I've got the basics but... Its so boring. I need headwear, neckwear, some kind of accessories, but I don't really know where to go now.

Opinions?

My apologies for the mess, in the middle of moving and everything is hectic. Also potato quality phone camera.

Initially I had wanted to do a witch themed ouji coord, but I'm lending my nice hat to my friend who is also attending (it matches her outfit perfectly, i couldn't say no) so I've got to come up with something else.

[Anonymous No.9218410]

>>9218355
i see sharp, bat-like cuts and a gothic base. (not all b&w coords are clearly goth, but yours does seem to be so far.) first, check out >>9189930 for some unique ideas. what are you interested in? what is your usual style? what do you admire? it is hard to suggest specifics not knowing you, your tastes, your face, your hair options.

you can play up the silhouette--the batty-looking tails of your shirt, the swoop of your waistcoat collar--with other items that recall swooping, flight, arches, and hanging. chain jewelry, such as pins connected by a decorative chain, can brighten the waistcoat. a jabot or cravat would make good neckwear, rather than a bow tie--something that hangs and can fill the space between yoir suirt collar and waistcoat, with a brooch in the center of it. charm bracelets and rings can help your hands seem less plain, or lean toward the punky side with black fingerless gloves or wristlets.

your tights are meh, they seem to be fighting with your shorts for dominance over your legs. OTKs with a pattern suitable to your theme (avoid horizontal stripes) would go a long way.

look up Miho Matsuda and BPN ouji coords, they seem right in your aesthetic.

will dump a couple "black vest and shorts with white shirt" coords

[Anonymous No.9218412]

>>9218410

[Anonymous No.9218415]

>>9218412

[Anonymous No.9218418]

>>9218415
and now a couple Halloween b&w

vampire (pops of red, Victorianesque accessories)

[Anonymous No.9218422]

>>9218418
magician (playing cards, vertical stripes, key necklace, artefact)

[Anonymous No.9218428]

>>9218422
white rabbit from Alice in Wonderland (white rabbit ears, pocket watch, Eat Me candy)

[Anonymous No.9218435]

>>9218410
TYSM anon! I do tend to lean Gothic. As for my hair, Ive got a boyish haircut so I'm just staying with my natural hair - can't do much with it but I think it fits well with the aesthetic. I think I like your punk idea as well, I dress in punk casually so I've got fodder for that laying around already.

[Anonymous No.9223140]

Ikemen Mode debuted their work at RuffleCon and it was pretty cool. pics to follow.

[Anonymous No.9223837]

Different anon from above, but I spoke to the Ikemen Mode designer at Rufflecon and she mentioned that they're probably going to increase the sizing (the current range goes up to right about Japanese men's sizing/top end of Taobao sizing), and that she was very open to feedback on that.

There was also a Montreal-based designer with some boystyle stuff but I'll have to dig out her business card with the brand name/website on it because my memory is shit.

[Anonymous No.9223849]

>>9223140
>>9223837
Very interested to see what they're gonna put up next week in their store. Did they have a lot of good stuff at their booth?

[Anonymous No.9224501]

>>9223837
SA Design is the name of the brand

[Anonymous No.9224735]

>>9223140
Were there many ouji at the con?

[Anonymous No.9227005]

>>9224501
yep, vid related is their part of the designer contest: https://youtu.be/8lvhk3RJ0E0

>>9224735
yeah, at least 10 or so each day, i think.

[Anonymous No.9229664]

>>9223849
>Did they have a lot of good stuff at their booth?
Yeah, a range of long vests in solid colors or stripes, with matching breeches, and a lot of tricorn hats and jabots. It was a simple selection but everything felt well-made and durable. I got a $36 jabot that I am pleased with. If they open an online shop I will get a pair of their pants.

Also, their vets fit over skirts so if you wear lolita they're versatile.

[Anonymous No.9231666]

[Anonymous No.9231673]

>>9231666
Reposting like a fag. Sexy sum' bitch.

[Anonymous No.9231748]

>>9231666
devil trips for giving money to the devil

how does John Leigh's dick taste anyway?

[Anonymous No.9232171]

>>9231748
Ouch, yeah, I deserved that. I didn't know who I was supporting when I bought that jacket, but fortunately they didn't get as much profit off me due to them making a mistake during my order. Seriously though, never buying from Shop in Wonderland again.

[Anonymous No.9232345]

OK gulls, I'm a guy who wants to put together an outfit to dress up with my wife. Obviously her opinion, her coord and my tastes should be the deciding factor, but out of curiosity what would most Lolitas like their guy to dress in. Ouji? Dandy? Ega?

[Anonymous No.9232380]

>>9232171
>Seriously though, never buying from Shop in Wonderland again.
good to hear, mayne.

>>9232345
>what would most Lolitas like their guy to dress in
this is the ouji thread, so ask this in the lolita thread if you want lolita opinions. also dandy is not a jfash but /fa/ loves it so keep that in mind if you decide to go dandy.

[Anonymous No.9232388]

>>9232345

I'd say it depends on how you look and what suits you to be honest. But a safe bet is something leaning towards aristocrat. I think it's easier for guys, especially newbies, to pull off and is probably going to be generally more flattering to wear.

My personal favourite is more aristo-leaning ouji inspired by the clothing of the European aristocracy in the very late 1600s to about 1780 or so.

[Anonymous No.9232564]

>>9232380
>>9232388
Thanks for the responses.

>>9232380
Duly noted. I wasn't exactly sure what thread would be best, I'll take your advice and ask there. Thank you.

>>9232388
Good advice, anon. I'm leaning towards aristocrat because I think it looks best on me. As much as I love how cute ouji is, my body type is a bit to manly to pull off. What you referenced seems to be a good middle ground though so I will check that out. Many thanks.

[Anonymous No.9232910]

new thread >>9232909