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http://2016.narcon.se/en/

Who is fucking ready?

>> No.8985354

Screw Närcon, let's talk about Confusion. Look at that list of panels!

>inb4 "ugh cosplay is not consent"/"ugh transpanels"

>> No.8985364

>>8985354
but its already over

>> No.8985367

>>8985350
isn't the general consensus that närcon absolutely sucks now

>> No.8985393

>>8985364
Why do you live two weeks ahead of me? How was it, future-anon?

>> No.8985530

>>8985393
it was awful and nowhere on the level of narcon

jk i just looked at the wrong dates, i'm excited though!

can we talk about everything narcon is gonna do wrong this year?

>> No.8985941

>>8985350
I've been hoping for a miraculous ladybug meetup but it doesn't seem like there is any yet...
What are you all planning to cosplay?

>> No.8986020

>>8985941
I've seen one, would link it but I CBA to go look again.

And I'm waiting for the day I feel sad that I didn't go to NC, so, nothing.

>> No.8986122

>>8985941
there is one on FB

>> No.8986931

>>8985530
Hatsune Miku, anon! And Eurovision! Who's watching in cosplay?

>> No.8987112

>>8986020
>>8986122
I finally found it, I had to search for a couple of times before it came up, maybe FB glitched for me or something.

>> No.8989121

>>8985367
I don't know. They seem to have listened to some of the critique since last year's debacle.
But I'm not really in the know

>> No.8989275

Might be interesting to some of you.

https://youtu.be/oWnzYPHDitA

>> No.8990766

>>8989121
Looking at >>8989275 they clearly figured out they were fucking up. Though it's pretty obvious that they still think that quantity > quality which... I guess there's a place for that too, but it does bother me that it's the face outwards for swedish cons.

>> No.8991522

>>8990766
Do we have any other cons that are actually quality though??

>> No.8991593

>>8991522
Well what you like is obviously going to vary. We don't really have any BIG quality cons, but I've heard good things about both Pica and Kodachi. Confusion is getting the chance to redeem themselves this year.

Problem with a lot of smaller cons (Fairy, Kawaii, Pica, Stor) is that they only attract your local weebs, making it hard for them to grow. Kodachi is doing a thing where they refund everyone who travels from outside Skåne 150 SEK off the entrance fee, which is pretty cool.

Also, any news on Kim Synnerboms new project?

>> No.8991930

>>8991593
It's not going to happen this year because of WCS I think :) I really like Kim and think he could do great things but has he ever done any big-scale organizing before?

>> No.8992226

>>8991593
>>8991930
Kim's project was never a thing.
He was an arranger for CSM, but gave up after just a month or so, he's not capable of that.
It's not a thing nor will ever be a thing.

>> No.8993756

>>8992226
Deets?

>> No.8994532

>>8993756
He said it was too much work and quit, not much more to it.

>> No.8995054

>>8994532
You know he quit because he was practically working full-time with the cosplay arrangements without getting paid shit by Närcon right?

>> No.8995107

>>8995054
He was paid and employed for a while, get you facts straight.

>> No.8995152

>>8995054
Wasn't tghat while CSM was with uppcon though?

>> No.8996076

I'm going to spend Närcon within the comfort of my home and twitter, with popcorn in hand.

>> No.8997497

I keep seeing people from other countries posting about buying their närcon tickets and being excited for the con. I feel sad for all the money they're losing

>> No.8998575

Närcon salt aside, is anyone excited for Confusion? Think they'll manage to do better this year or are they doomed to fail?

>> No.8998702

>>8991593
Quick Kodachi review;
It was pretty good, though it felt far smaller than it actually was. I definitely think it could use some tighter scheduling, but the things I did attend were pretty neat. There's a lot of potential, and clearly there's plenty of people who WANT and CAN do good stuff, so they just need to build on it. I definitely think that the con area could be better tied together; they've a lot of outside space they could utilize further, and the indoor area was kinda dull looking and didn't really feel like a con.

Sellers were a pretty good selection but I'd enjoyed to see something like SFBok or Ordbilder there, same goes for AA but I guess that with SIS happening in Stockholm it's not that weird.

I really think they could use some guests, they did have the Danish guy I don't know the name of as a cosplay judge, they could probably have given him a slot in the programming for a panel or something.

>> No.8998745

>>8998575
I've only been to CF 2013 before, imo it was on level with NC fucking up last summer. I hope CF will be better this time

>> No.8998781

>>8998745
Tbh I don't think any con has ever fucked up as badly as NCS 2015. Conf 2013 may have been bad but definitely nowhere near that trainwreck

>> No.8998801

>>8998575
I'm looking forward to it. They have a lot of interesting panels and workshops so there seems to be stuff to do at least

>> No.8998932

>>8998781
Not true, we had UppCon

>> No.8998940

>>8998932
UC was my first con, so I didn't exactly have perspecitive at the time. Anyone care to give me some history?

>> No.8998961

>>8998940
Unless you haven't been to any cons since UppCon just compare it to the other ones you've been too desu
But even then NCS2015 was extremely bad. At least UppCon actually decided to quit trying and just disappear. Unfortunately that meant NC is now the biggest con in the country and all the weebs travel there every year because "Everyone else is going", and therefore NC can be as shitty as they want because they don't have any actual competition

>> No.8998976

>>8998961
I would, but it was a while and the memory is still rose-tinted. I only remember the controversy of the entrance fee the last year.

>> No.8998996

>>8998961
They didn't decide to quit really, they went bankrupt because of bad financial planning more than anything else.

>> No.8999030

>>8998996
Well, that's going to happen to NC too soon if the rumours about them losing money is true kek

>> No.8999069

>>8999030
Where'd you hear that?

>> No.8999132

>>8999030
Give us the deets on these rumors

>> No.9000280

>>8999030
>>8999069
>>8999132
Gotta love when people say shit like this and never follow up on it

>> No.9001080

>>8999030
Nah NC's finances seem to be fine but ticket sales are probably slower since last year. That's not enough to tank them though because they have actual financial planning.

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Got this in my mail today because last year I was Ext Arr and we had to register on their damn site. Do they do this every year or are they so low on panda applications so far this year that they have to try to convince old pandas to come back?

They also forgot to add that you will end up working 12h shifts with no food or sleep breaks because no one in your team shows up and they don't have any leftover pandas to send (as I said I was ext arr and didn't experience the magic of being an overworked panda myself, but I talked to a lot of pandas after the con and it seems a lot of them are NOT interested in coming back as pandas)

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>>9002429
the english translation (that they apparently got lazy with and decided not to include everything from the swedish version)

>> No.9002493

Skipping Närcon this year because I can't be bothered to go to Linköping and it's been pretty awful for a few years now.

Confusion looks pretty good and I live in the area so it'll probably be nice. Though my wig, that needs to be cut and styled, hasn't arrived yet and my cosplay isn't done so idk what to do about that... I'm thinking about just painting the Sinestro Corps symbol on a yellow t-shirt and fuck around in that.

>> No.9002659

>>9002493
What kind of wig do you need? I have a bunch I dont use

>> No.9002685

>>9002429
Well I'd rather this than them hiring at-con.

Here's a suggestion for you, Närcon: offer loyalty perks for returning pandas. Seems to fit in with how you do stuff.

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>>9002659
Something like this?

>> No.9002827

>>9002429
They have 3 hour shifts this year though :) Also as a former panda no one can actually force you to work 12 hours, the people who do are the ones liking to sacrifice themselves. Also Panda food menue is out and it seems pretty decent :) That being said, being a panda is not a walk in the park.

>> No.9002857

>>9002827
Spot the NärCon-staff

>> No.9002858

>>9002857
Spot the person who actually thinks närcon-staff even hangs around on 4chan

>> No.9002960

>>9002858
Oh they do, every Sweden thread is a game of spot the NC staff and the thread usually disappears soon after the NC person has been found, funnily enough

>> No.9002976

>>9002659
>>9002748
Ok, update: Guess what had been laying at the post office since May the 4th but Posten felt like notifying me about today.

>> No.9003777

>>9002976
Posten works in mysterious ways. Think you'll be done with the wig in time?

>> No.9003976

>>9003777
Indeed they do.

I'm afraid not, a bunch of other stuff came up so I won't even be able to go to the con expect for today...

>> No.9004029

just walked past one of the lecture halls at confusion only to catch the powerpoint headline "transkunskap".

>> No.9004152

The opening ceremony at confusion is pretty damn cringy...

>> No.9005596

I went yesterday on a whim because I really near, ended up playing Rock Band for two hours.

That Miku concert was shit. Why did they call it hologram when it wasn't hologram? Why were they so terribly animated?

>> No.9005600

Confusion is a big let down this year. Sorry guys but I won't be returning next year. You had your chance to redeem yourself after last years fiasco and you fucked up

>> No.9005626

>>9005596
Yeah, the concert was awful. What was even up with the song selection? I had to leave at like ten to twelve but up to that point I had only recognised two or three songs and aside from "Just Be Friends" there weren't any really popular ones.

>> No.9005651

>>9005626
I recognized all but two, most were in Project Diva. I don't really have anything against the song selection, the weird part was the vocaloids I had never seen before.

You were smart to leave early, you didn't have to live through the annoyance that is Karamelldansen

>> No.9005658

>>9005651
I've never played those but the games seem to include far more popular songs than the ones they played at the concert, like World is Mine and Magnet. But yeah, there were some weird Vocaloids too.

Ugh, I feel sorry for you. Did they end the whole concert with that?

>> No.9005902

>>9005658
Yeah, but I gave up and went to the bathroom instead, then went home.

At least I played a bunch of Rock Band, bought a figure and made a new friend

>> No.9006051

>>9005600
Care to elaborate? Everything I've done so far has been a lot of fun, but I've admittedly not seen any of the big stage shows. I briefly popped in to the Vocaloid concert but the audio was so shit I just left. Lectures has been good, vendor and AA selection pretty decent, mostly a lot of stuff going on.

On a related note, I was surprised to see KS criticize Närcon so openly, but I definitely liked it as a brief history lesson.

>> No.9006526

>>9006051
Do you know if his lecture was filmed?

>> No.9006565

>>9006526
I hope so! I arrived a bit late and had to go once the questions started, so I'd really like it online too. I imagine it would be?

>> No.9006799

Thoughts on the cosplay contest winners?

>> No.9006875

>>9006799
Who won? I watched the SMQ, and I'm pretty sure foxgirl from wherever won that one. I didn't really get the performance but her tail and clothes looked clean enough.

>> No.9008063

>>9006875
Regular comp:

Best cosplay: Louise Persson as Maou
Best character: Mirjam Larsson as Merida
Best craft: Annabelle Saxentorp as Bloom
Judges choice: Jenny Lejon as The Cheshire Cat
Judges choice: Alice Holmén as Toph
Judges choice: Mirjam Larsson as Merida
Best Performance: Carolin

SM-qualifier:

1: Josefin Devert as Caster
2. Debbie Lane as Cersei Lannister
3. Mirjam Larsson as Merida (I think?)

>> No.9008089

>>9008063
The GOT performance was just a headscratcher to me. It had a good idea I guess but it was just sooo unbalanced.

The Merida was p neato tho.

>> No.9008105

>>9008089
Yeah it could've done with more practise. Plus I have no idea what the voice over was saying at the start. I did like the idea though, it was pretty fun, just too rough and needed better audio.

>> No.9008113

>>9008105
No one needs that much katy perry, though. The point could've gotten across far, far easier.

Speaking of bad audio; the AOT cosplay. Boy.

>> No.9008118

>>9008113
Yeah the song was way too long!

Oh god yes. That was... yeah.

>> No.9008181

>>9006051
Wait, what happened there? Did I miss something vaguely entertaining?

>> No.9008191

>>9008181
He did a 30-ish minute rethread of swedish nerd/con culture, starting in the eighties and going to today. It was some pretty basic stuff like what cons existed and how big they were and what happened at them, but also more about the direction they were going in and why and forums and stuff like that. He basically ended by speaking of konventsdöden a few years back (uppcon, meuwcon, etc) and about how Närcon now has what might be considered a monopoly of sorts. The last slide was very tellingly titled "festivalfasoner".

>> No.9008222

>>9008181
I didn't watch his talk, but he did gain back a lot of my trust by simply screaming his heart out in the karaoke room. That was vaguely entertaining for sure.
Since he's mostly a public head organizer I don't think I've ever seen him reveal his actual power level like that before. But hey, he's a huge nerd and an okay singer.
(Sorry if unrelated I just want to tell people about this.)

>> No.9008231

What can i even do at närcon

>> No.9008255

>>9008231
Whine about your unwise dinancial choices.

>> No.9008372

>>9008063
I didn't get any of the performances to be honest. All of them were cringe worthy, even the winner. Like wtf?

>> No.9008484

>>9008191
Ok, that does sound pretty interesting. Thanks for the info!

>>9008222
Also a very compelling argument.

>> No.9009606

any more reviews of confusion?

>> No.9009728

>>9009606

I was just happy to get to play Tekken 7. I managed to perform well enough to play on the big stage on screen, although I lost my first round.... but it was against the guy who ended up third, and I got to try Mr squidface, so I'm happy.

But it was nice. Sadly I missed most of the cosplay stuff, but the vidya room was solid. I only got to wear my Diglett cosplay for like 5 mins tho, halls to cramped.

Not sure if this was a review or my blog, but oh well.

>> No.9009733

>>9009728
>pay money to attend con
>play video games for most of it

>> No.9009763

>>9009606
I enjoyed it! It had a cosy feeling, you could tell they knew they fucked up last time and were really trying to provide a lot of quality content. Not saying that everything was quality, but at least they made an effort. The hologram concert was embarrassing, but Kaj-pop was great and I enjoyed several panels (KS and Stickweeds to name my favorites). The cosplay competions were pretty small, but I'd much rather have a short competion than NärCon's entire day fuckery.

Speaking of... any photos?

>> No.9009814

>>9009733

Actually, I spent most of my time catching up with an old friend, as well as making a new one.

But entering a tournament in a game that's not yet released and that I'm very hyped about is time well spent imo.

>> No.9009835

>>9009606
I liked it, since it really had that cozy feeling it used to have. Good selection of panels, and I loved KAJ! Only thing I really thought was bad was the hologram concert, but I heard Joachim was furious over the quality of that too

>> No.9010173

To me it felt like there were a lot more people NOT cosplaying than people cosplaying. It felt pretty weird honestly. Though it might have had something to do with the fact that museum visitors got in for free during the days and stuff. Didn't really make the con feel very comfortable to me

>> No.9012785

>>9010173
I think people might be saving themselves for Närcon? Which is weird to me desu because in that case Confu would be a prime con for a test run but anyway.

It didn't really affect the experience to me, but it was kinda weirdly many people dressed in normiecore now that you mention it?

>> No.9012854

What's up with the trans Harley Quinn chick who has decided that the Cosplay Sweden group is the perfect outlet for her whining?

>> No.9012995

>>9012854
give caps for us filthy foreigners, I wanna kek

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>>9012995
>Foreigner
How were you expecting to learn swedish overnight?

Anyway, she made like three posts about being treated shittily at Confusion because of the fact that she's a trans woman, though she's seemed to deleted all but one now.

I mean I guess it's FAIR in the sense that yeah, that sucks, and people tend to be insensitive and thoughtless, but it's just so obviously about fishing for pity... and a lot of the things she brought up 1) applies to all trans women, not just cosplayers, or 2) applies to all people who're born male and cosplay women. Pic related is the only one out of the batch I can imagine applies exclusively to trans women cosplayers.

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>>9012995
As the other anon said she made a few posts that she then deleted, one was a complaint post and another one was a "okey I'll deleted the old post because you're so mean" post.Then she uploaded these English memes she apparently made.

The thing is that the Swedish cosplay community is overtly tolerant and her posts have been getting almost no bad feedback so it seems kind of weird that she would be "constantly harassed" while cosplaying, especially as people would probably just think she's crossplaying if she isn't passing well enough. And knowing some other people in the community she might very well be making up the drama just because she wants people to pity her.

>> No.9013247

>>9013027
you know, sometimes people learn languages of countries they don't live in. I only mentioned the foreigner part because that's why I'm not in the cos group, didn't know how to clarify it better
sounds like pretty good cringe material though, seems that everyone who makes a big deal of being trans ends up using it for pity points

>> No.9013260

>>9013243
People are just ignoring the posts, because nobody wants to argue about politics with people who are Undeniably and Absolutely Right and Correct on Facebook.

The topic of HBT in cosplay has been beaten to death here, nobody who's not already stuck in the SJW well is going to touch the subject, at least not if they value their time. The fact that we've panels on con is not consent + HBT/POC/ability/gender at every single con these days should say something. I don't think it's bad in and of itself, but many of those who push for it the most are of the school where they are Undeniably and Exactly Right and Correct and anyone who disagree with them (not even on whether these issues exist which... I'm pretty confident most of us agree to some extent that they do, but even on how to handle them) is a Problematic Person with Bad Opinions.

>> No.9016951

Lantis här.

Har aldrig varit på närcon, snackat mycket med en som har varit där, hon rekommenderar det.

Jag är inte så jävla glad för anime eller annat japanskt, men jag tycker om sci fi och filmer.

Har en Fallout, Vault Dweller dräkt hemma.
Skulle ni rekommendera det?
I'm a dude btw

>> No.9017061

>>9016951
I'm not super experienced with närcon but yeah, generally video games/films are also cosplayed quite a bit at weeaboo cons. as long as it looks good on you and you can look even remotely believable as a vault dweller go for it
sorry for filthy foreign language, I don't trust my swedish skills enough to reply in it

>> No.9017166

>>9016951
Sveriges konventsscen är relativt liten och konstig så de flesta konvent är blandade även om det mest är animu, och eftersom Närcon är störst så är det också hyfsat stora grupper med andra typer av cosplays där.

Vault Dweller bör fungera om du kan få det att se OK ut. Folk kommer iaf att känna igen dig.

>> No.9017242

>>9017166
Närcon är ju inte östasien längre, det är ju en "konventsfestival för nördkultur".

På det ämnet, vad hände med multicon?

>> No.9017293

>>9017242
Sant, men majoriteten av de som cosplayar cosplayar fortfarande ifrån diverse anime/manga/japanska mobilspel.

>> No.9017308

>>9016951
I'm cosplaying the Courier along with some other peeps doing Fallout on the Saturday, so sure!

>> No.9018407

>>9017308
Sweet, got some tips on making your costume rugged?
I robbed mine in dirt, it looks pretty good.

And how is the con usually?
A lot of girls? A lot of guys?

>> No.9018502

>>9018407
I haven't made a cosplay like this before (it's still in progress), but honestly I was thinking of just driving out to somewhere nature-y and rolling around in the dirt lol.
There are tons of tutorials though! For armor and props you got this kinda stuff:
http://www.thedentedhelmet.com/f34/apollos-weathering-tutorial-29520/
For clothing something like this: http://kayleeweinberg.com/cosplay-101-weathering/

A lot of people, I have only been there once before but there were a good mix. A lot of anime costumes, but also a good bunch of western stuff too.

>> No.9018504

>>9018502
Allright, sounds neat.
The dirt techinique worked for me, I recommend it, it looks natural.

And what Courier costume are you gonna have?
The trenchcoat and cowboyhat?

>> No.9018519

>>9018504
Doing the armored Vault 21 jumpsuit, it was initially cut from the game but the Courier wears it during the end game cinematic. Gonna get myself the Desperado cowboy hat as well so I basically look like my character in game. :3

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>>9018519
Found this when searching for Vault 21 Jumpsuit, it looks really cool.
It has the original Courier look while having the Vault suit aswell.

Anyway, how did you make your Jumpsuit? Is it formfitting or is it just a normal jumpsuit?

>> No.9019975

>>9018634
I'm doing normal because I am not comfortable with anything too form fitting. Bought a pre-made pattern at a local fabrics store and just edited it to make it all look nice.

>> No.9020442

Heard through the rumor mill recently: NärCon has NOT fixed an indoor stage this year, despite having to cancel the cosplay competition last year because it rained and they didn't have an indoor stage.
Haven't had the chance to confirm this rumor as true yet but it wouldn't fucking surprise me because NC never learn from their mistakes

>> No.9020449

>>9020442
Where would the stage be?It would be a stage able to hold all the people wanting to go to the competition, which is a lot. There is simply no place for it.
Närcon should fix a tent for the big stage outside, but it could be not possible because of money.

>> No.9020457

>>9020442
I'm assuming they're investing in a more weather proof stage? In all honesty, there's not really been an option for an indoor stage in a loooong time for NCS. Hopefully they'll find a better way to deal with it.

Also let's be real, no one gets pissed off if Bråvalla or Summerburst use a outdoor stage.

>> No.9020516

>>9016951
Jag kommer gå som Abyss watchers från DS3 och känner många andra som inte ska cosplaya anime karaktär

>> No.9020568

>>9020516
Skönt att höra att man inte kommer sticka ut, hade varit konstigt annars, kan ingeting om anime och japan.

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>>9020568
Vi kanske ses där

>> No.9020620

>>9020457
However Bråvalla and Summerburst are festivals, not cons hosting cosplay competitions. Competitions to which people wear stuff that might not be suited for a rainstorm like we got last year

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>>9020620

>> No.9021314

I guess none of you watched the cosplay-thing they had? They said the stage is weather proof this year. the audience won't be covered by a tent but they're planning on maybe handing out rain ponchos to the audience if it rains.

>> No.9021326

>>9020572
Kanske vi gör asså.

>> No.9021494

>>9020648
Are you trying to use this as some sort of counterpoint or something? Because the point that the cosplays we usually see in competitions can't handle harsh weather still stands. NärCon wants to be a festival and hasn't paid any thought to how that will affect the people visiting. It works for music and concerts, but not for games and cosplay

>> No.9021533

>>9021494
There's a billion things you can criticize Närcon for, but realize that an outdoor stage is 1) the only option they have at this point when it comes to the big events, and 2) completely in line with the direction they're taking the con.

If you don't like that direction, or feel worried that they won't be able to cater to your needs as a competitive cosplayer, don't go. It's as simple as that. At this point, criticizing the direction of Närcon is pointless, because it's incredibly clear they've no intention of changing it. If you want to criticize them, do it with that fact in mind. Demanding an indoor stage at this point is useless and only comes off as you thinking everything should cater to you. Nobody is criticizing Dreamhack for not catering to weebs who want to play fotleken and read manga in aktivitet.

If you don't want to support Närcon, don't go. Go to other cons. Give your support to up-and-coming projects. Put your money in the hands of people who you feel might do something worthwile with it. Promote the cons you like, get your friends excited to go to those instead of fucking Närcon. Review the smaller cons, give them feedback, make them better and give them the same number of chances y'all keep giving Närcon. Does it suck that Närcon is currently the ONLY big con around? Absolutely. Do their decisions influence the community? Sure. But after all these years it's pretty obvious that whining about it isn't going to change anything.

>> No.9021554

>>9021533
I agree with all your points except one. If you're a competitive cosplayer you pretty much have to go to nc. The big cosplays costs the big money so you might not be able to afford making the cosplay plus plane tickets to a con in another country. Going to competitions on other Swedish cons doesn't really matter since you'll end up at nc anyway it you qualify for NCC

>> No.9021578

>>9021554
That's true, but by raising competition and *ending up* at Närcon as opposed to attending, we'll hopefully be able to create a better environment for competitive cosplayers. I also think smaller cons could benefit from collaborating with other nordic cons, though I obviously don't have a clear answer for how to solve the issue.

>> No.9024663

how does one go about starting a convention in Sweden?

>> No.9026493

>>9024663
Try to find cultural grants for your region, they should help with the economic part.

>> No.9027188

CONfusion was great. KAJpop was great, and the dealer room was just small/big enough.. Spent most of the time in the karaoke desu. Närcon still beats it for cheap food options(30:- for a sammich with hummus!?), but other than that, shit was good. Did anyone actually enter the fanfiction contest?

>> No.9027248

>>9027188
Next time, cross Korsvägen and buy your food at one of the two baguette shops on Södra Vägen. can och pop+baguette for the same price. They're not open 24/7 but it's better than Convention food.

>> No.9027254

>>9027248
*can of pop jfc

>> No.9029221

Anyone know anything about Skövdes feskmarknad? Seems pretty small, but how is it?

>> No.9030340

>>9029221
Is it still around? I thought that one was pretty much KS:s birthdayparty and nothing more?

>> No.9030579

>>9030340
KS=Katawa Shoujo?

>> No.9030782

>>9030579
Kim Synnerbom, I assume.

But does he even live in Skövde anymore? Isn't Skövde just a student town?

Also, anyone going to Donkeycon?

>> No.9030862

>>9030782
A friend and I are going to Donkeycon but idk about cosplay, we're graduating in a week and a half so we haven't had much time for cosplay making lately.

>> No.9031348

Anyone going to Storcon this year? Is it shit or worth checking out?

>> No.9032202

>>9027188
The contest hosted by Skövde Feskmarknad? Yeah, there were about 7 entries, but only three people there to hear the reading, and thus only three people there to vote. Pretty sad, since some of the fanfictions were pretty funny. The winner was Jessica Rabbit getting her tentavore funk on with a Pirahna plant from Mario bros. Prize was a free ticket to SFM.

>> No.9032341

>>9032202
Weren't they unfortunate enough to be placed right during CSM, though?

>> No.9034685
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Any Magi cosplayers coming?

>> No.9037603

>>9021554
Finn here, nobody wants to take part in our NCC preliminaries anymore because of how shitty of a convention Närcon is. Our last preliminaries had 2 people competing. I'm sincerely hoping our country will pull out after this year.

>> No.9037844

>>9037603
Oh boy

>> No.9037916

So, is there going to be a con orgy at least this year? Otherwise, what's the point?

>> No.9038002

>>9037603
I actually hope Finland pulls out, and that the other countries follow suit. I read so many posts made by the NCC competitors last year and I felt so bad for everyone. NC is absolute shit and the way they treat people (who have travelled pretty damn far to attend the con) is terrible. If the other countries pulled out and focused on other european cosplay contests, maybe NC would finally realize what a crap job they're doing as hosts.
Or maybe not
But one can dream, right?

>> No.9038579

>>9038002
I'm pretty sure they've already realized since they apologized to the contestants and are making changes this year (hotelrooms etc for contestants)

>> No.9039064

>>9038579
Where did they apologize? I haven't seen or heard about that. They basically just swept it under the rug and refused to react to the public outrage.

>> No.9040086

>>9039064
Seconding.

>> No.9040145

Here's something I've been thinking about; are there any swecons that are actually licensed to show the stuff in their viewing rooms or are they all operating as "private showings" as organizations that aren't for-profit?

>>9026493
Do you have to be a organization? Pretty much all swecons seem to be tied to Sverok somehow.

>> No.9040177

>>9039064
In the event last summer! It was the only thing they apologized for in the big post written by Samuel.

>> No.9040179

>>9040145
No they don't. That's why the big cons stopped with viewing rooms.

>> No.9040187

>>9040179
...but both Närcon and Confusion have viewing rooms?

>> No.9040372

>>9040145
>Do you have to be a organization?
Probably, though you have to take a look at the specific grants to see what their requirements are.

>> No.9040826

>>9040187
I thought nc had stooped having one, my bad! Didn't come across the one at cf either

>> No.9042156

>>9040826
CF's was on the same floor as the stage, next to the bathrooms and the vendors that were there

>> No.9042313

Did anyone actually go to DonkeyCon? Was it as bland as it seemed?

>> No.9043650

>>9042313
seems like the response is good, but there also seems like there wasn't really anything STELLAR going on. maybe the grillparty or cosplaybal. also i imagine they got a big boost from the good weather.

>> No.9047983

>>9006051
>>9006526
>>9008191

Someone put up a video of the lecture and the part about konventsdöden and NärCon criticism "festivalfasoner" can be found at the 26:16 mark.

https://youtu.be/mz53_8FAqZM?t=26m14s

>> No.9048007

>>9047983

eum... He gets lots of facts wrong during the entire thing. I wish I could agree with him but he gets so much wrong and misses so much ):

>> No.9048014

>>9048007
Elaborate?

>> No.9048326

>>9048007
Yes, please do enlighten us on these wrong facts

>> No.9049313

>>9048007
Yet again sweanon fails to deliver.

>> No.9052161
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Been to Närcon 3 years in a row. Worst fucking shit ever. Consider killing yourself

>> No.9052172

>>9052161
Where are you from, anon?

Not going this year, so hey.

Which con of the year has been the best resp. worst so far?

>> No.9052357

>>9052172
I'm from Västerås. I've been to 10+ cons in some years but don't go anymore. Just a bunch of nerd...

>> No.9052363

I'm thinking about going to Comic Con Stockholm since I'm more into comics and games than weeb shit these days, but is it worth the price? Like, do they have interesting guests and panels and such? And do any of the bigger companies like Bethesda or DC Comics (not the movie division) have actual exhibits there or is it just small companies?

>> No.9052473

>>9052363
Nah don't bother, it's more of an expo than a con. Unless you like any of the guests I wouldn't go if I were you. It's only similar to the San Diego one by name, nothing else.

>> No.9052481

>>9052473
semi related but i kinda want to start a con in the swedish tradition but focued on western cartoons and comics... looking at how big superheroes are rn i think thered be an audience for it.

>> No.9052517

>>9052481
Me too, though it's seems kind of hard to judge if you would actually get any guests. I'm the poor dumb fuck who tried to host a "about comics" panel at NCV this year, in part to see how interested people were, but it was scheduled smack dab in the middle of the cosplay competition so only a few people turned up and it went tits up.

But the main issue with the Swedish fandom is that it's kinda small and casual, most people are just the most shallow of MCU fans which isn't a very stable foundation for a con.

>> No.9052530

>>9052517
TBF panels at Närcon (unless they're cosplay Q&A) tend to be hit or miss. I had more people attending my panel when I hosted it at goddamn FAIRYCON of all places than at Närcon and Kultcon combined, because neither gave a shit about promoting me or giving me a good stage (though to be fair, Fairycon was small enough for people to actively seek out events in a way they usually don't at the bigger cons).

And that's exactly why I think it'd be important to do it in the swedish tradition; do something like a medium-small con but instead of showing anime you show western cartoons. Instead of K-drama, film adaptions of capes or stuff like BTVS or S.H.I.E.L.D. Focus on panels about western comics and their history, put a lot of effort into getting people who're passionate about niche subjects to host panels and promote those. The only situation where a *vague* panel is better than a niched one is introduction panels to cosplay subjects, and even then more niche stuff (like how exactly do you work with a specific material, the details of working with metal armour, etc.) will generally get better response than something vague.

Just to go back to Fairycon and use them as an example, they had an entire room just DEDICATED to K-pop and K-pop merch, it was super, super geeky and pretty dang cool!

I wasn't at NCV so I don't know about your panel, what was it about?

>> No.9053071

>>9052530
It might work but I'm not sure if people would show up in the first place. You'd probably have to appeal to the SU and GF crowds to get enough people.

It was supposed to be a introduction to comic books, mainly the big two but also various smaller publisher. In the end there were 6 people in the audience and 5 of them were only there because of the chairs.

>> No.9055676

>>9053071
Of course, but that's what every con does these days (and has always done) anyway. The only reason Närcon called itself an anime con was because that was the big Thing in the 00's.

>> No.9056746

>>9055676
I don't think NärCon ever called themselves an anime con? Their focus has always been multi.

>> No.9056776 [DELETED] 

>>9012854
I've been on "her" instagram a lot, it's very... entertaining

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>>9012995
>>9012995
would recommend her instagram for cringe

I feel so sorry for lesbians trying to date in 2016, god

>> No.9056814

>>9056746
For a while they used the term "östasiatisk populärkultur", I'm pretty sure.

>> No.9056972

>>9056781
That's not even cringey tho? Wtf is wrong w you?

>> No.9057345

>>9056781
Nah, that's barely even low tier cringe.

>> No.9057660

>>9056781
Since when are trans people who show happiness over the results of their transition cringe, anon? I'd love to hear

>> No.9057744

Närcon Winter this year was utter shit.
Really hope Närcon Summer this year is going to be good, only real reason I'm going is because of meeting friends.

>> No.9057863

>>9057744
Considering how absolutely terrible NCS was last year I wouldnt hold my breath. You're wasting your money. There are way less expensive ways to hang out with your friends

>> No.9058418

Is there anyone else that goes to Narcon pretty must just to see other cosplayers?

>> No.9059947

>>9058418
A better question is if there's anyone actually going for the programming.

>> No.9060264

>>9059947
Does anyone go to ANY of the other cons for programming though?

>> No.9060268

>>9060264
Let me answer your question with another question: should we be judging Närcon by thr same standards as we judge other swedish cons?

>> No.9060347

>>9060268
Depends on which part of the con. My point was that programming has never been the point of Swedish cons.

I'm not saying we should all judge them the same, although I don't think nc should be judged to the extent it is (honestly, they have like what 4 employees? Most of it's still runt by non-profit organizers). But sure the standards should be heigher for the biggest con, just like it was for uc back in the day.

>> No.9060353

>>9060347
I pretty much agree with you, though I do think that NC should be judged for the context of the swedish con scene, not by what international cons might usually look like (if I understood you correctly).

That's a good question, though, what do you look for when you chose what cons to go to? Programming isn't what makes me chose a con, but an interesting and creative program will make me much more likely to return to it.

>> No.9060376

>>9060353
>All of our cons are shit so let's never do anything about it or demand better but just settle with the least awful one and go with it while hating it simultaneously. Someone might get their feelings hurt and that's unforgivable!
This is why your cons will always be terrible, Sweden. Best regards, Finland

>> No.9060401

>>9060376
>Projecting this hard

What is up with all these smug as hell Finns? Are you still salty over Åland never buying into you or what?

To clarify: I don't think Närcon should be compared to, say, american cons or expos, because that's not what swedish convention culture looks like. Never has, never will. By comparing it to international standards, Närcon is tiny. It is a lingon in a supernova. If we judge by international standards, then Närcon is only a tiny fart with four employees so honestly who gives a crap?
By judging Närcon in the context of what the swedish convention scene actually looks like, we get to judge it based on the fact that it is 1) the biggest con in sweden, 2) an actual company, 3) trying to be the predecessor of what swedish cons are and look like. We also don't need to pretend like it should be something it cannot be.

Smug Finns with superiority complex needs to go back to their thread or actually add something interesting to the discussion. I'm sorry people don't travel from the rest of the nordics to be part of YOUR conventions; apparently Närcon is doing something right.

>> No.9060449

>>9060401
I'm sorry you're contempt with cons that fuck up everything in their power and even take the time to defend their ways, Swede. That's real rough. Best regards, Finland whose cons don't leak their user registration data, run out of volunteers in the middle of a convention, mess up international competitions or hand out salmonella at their overpriced food stands while barring out outsider companies around the venue.

>> No.9060470

>>9060449
Christ, you're dense.

I'm not saying Närcon is good, Närcon is fucked up and I am not going until the day comes where someone tells me "man, you really missed out!", I don't understand how you got that out of anything I said.

Key points:
1. Närcon is shit
2. Swedish con scene needs some massive change, especially when it comes to the big players; we need more big cons and we need them to be better
3. Swedish cons are pretty different from what cons look like in the US or GB, this is not a bad thing
4. Comparing Närcon to American cons will thus not be a fair comparsion and won't actually help them improve, especially when they so clearly do not want to be that kind of event

Criticizing Närcon is something we need to do, and something we DO do. I personally also try and lift events I think were good, or which had good things about them that other events could learn from, and I think we as a community need to be better at giving attention to smaller cons. That Närcon is our biggest con, and the face outwards for swedish con culture is fucked up, no one disagrees on this. The only thing we disagree on is how to change this and how to discuss it to be as efficent and constructive as we can.

Finns entering the thread every time someone says they'd rather want Närcon fixed than abolished, or that there are some qualities about Närcon that are pretty good, and acting like their con scene is the hottest shit on planet earth without contributing, is obnoxious and unhelpful. Instead of acting like every swede is a OA for Närcon, maybe invite us to your own, far superior and downright godsent (I must assume) cons so we can get some inspiration.

Please introduce nuance to your life, and stop dryhumping the beach.

>> No.9060475

>>9060470
>maybe invite us to your own, far superior and downright godsent (I must assume) cons so we can get some inspiration.
A convention here did that actually a few years ago. The Närcon reps were apparently snooty, arrogant and rude to people there. They weren't invited again because of that. Your problem is that you're fine with your conventions being below average and not doing anything about it, instead you discuss and discuss over it and never get results done.

>> No.9060479

>>9052473
Go figure. Guess I'll just save up for MCM London then.

>> No.9060491

>>9060475
Närcon reps are not representative of Sweden or swedens convention scene. I thought this was given.

And people are; I'm not involved any more than occasionally doing funk work but I have not spoken to one person outside of the Närcon OAs/inner circle who is happy with the way the scene looks right now. Most people try and solve this by way of just working on their own cons. Trying to make them better, bigger. Grow at a pace they can handle. I don't know what you want me to do, dude. I don't attend the con, either as visitor, workforce or extern arrangement/guest. I promote cons that I feel do things better and deserve to take a bigger space in the community.

Like literally, I don't know what you expect me to realistically do that I'm not already doing. Thing is it's fucking HARD to wreck a giant, because people know it's shit but they still attend, because people in general don't want to be left out. That's the main issue, people still go so there's no real weight behind their complaints. I really hope some of the bigger names in cosplay and the con scene, especially those who've been outspoken about disliking Närcon (Pantzar, Synnerbom, Andrew Siz Modig of CGB all come to mind) just chose to abstain from attending, that's why I keep talking about it. I can't do anything else.

>> No.9060777

>>9060264
I thought ConFusion had better programming this year to throw in my five cents. I'm so fucking tired of NärCon having basically only low quality cosplay Q&A, you can fucking tell that they don't give a shit about programming so they source it out to 14-yearolds who want to do their headcanon cosplay fantasies.

Swedish cons need to have more varied panels god damn it.

>>9060491

Also agree with this. It's pretty weird to see people criticizing so harshly but then end up going anyway. I understand the whole "but all my friends are going" thingimajigi going on but it really makes criticism just seem like whining which makes me sad.

People outside of the inner circles are really working hard at making new great cons, it's just more tricky now with NärCon attempting to corner the market.

>> No.9060909

>>9060449
Literally this whole comment was a lie. User registration data has never been leaked, you should know this if you actually read about it. They're fixing the competition this year. There was never any salmonella at närcon, and a meal costs 30sek that is NOTHING. Pressbyrån was left out because they can not fence in other companies, that would be fucked up.

Nc is not perfect, there are loads of problems but get your facts straight.

As a follower of loads of finns on twitter I can tell you that your con-scene isn't that great either. Get off your high horse.

>> No.9060917

>>9060777
Nc is not attempting to corner the market though, it has never been their goal. I really feel that it's up to other cons to get sponsors, get corporate or at least put more time into it and compete for real. None of the other organizers are really trying to do this. Nc aren't making an effort to "corner the market" we're letting them.

>> No.9060997

>>9060909
>As a follower of loads of finns on twitter I can tell you that your con-scene isn't that great either. Get off your high horse.
lmao the problems in the finnish con scene are more "baww they switched the cosplay competition from saturday to sunday this year" type petty whining, not actual problems. our congoers are so spoiled with great quality conventions that even a small flaw is unforgivable and that's how it should be

>User registration data has never been leaked?
what about the official mail from närcon
>They're fixing the competition this year
yeah like they said they would the last 3 times?
>There was never any salmonella at närcon
except for all the reported food poisoning cases from the food stands and zero concern for allergies
>30sek
the food stands were not that cheap
>Pressbyrån was left out because they can not fence in other companies, that would be fucked up.
lmao and when pressbyrån asked them to remove the fences or put up a gate to allow people get in their store they were quoted a 50 000 sek bribe so obviously they could've arranged a gate but didn't want competition

>> No.9061109

I'm not sure I can complain about NärCons stage shows ever again after DH:s cosplay fiasco

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BgWgseRzIBY

>> No.9061112

>>9060997
I'm pretty much done with you. The tweets I've seen are a lot worse than that. If you read the email it explains that there is a tiny possibility that someone had access to encrypted and salted files that are hella hard to open, also the most they could have gotten out of that are emails. If there had been actual salmonella the hälsovårdsmyndigheten had stepped in, which they have not. nc:s food stands were that cheap and have always been that cheap, but you might have only eaten at the outsourced ones to which it's your own fault that you choose the expensive ones. A gate needs pandas, didn't you complain earlier at the lack of pandas?

Like there's a lot of stuff nc does wrong, your lies aren't.

>> No.9061234

>>9061109
Really wish someone would post this on it's own on CGL because it's that cringe. Reddit have been having a field day.

>> No.9061243

>>9061234
Link to the reddit thread pls!

>> No.9061269

>>9061243

Top on Cringe and LoL subreddits right now:

LoL
https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/4opas6/the_worst_league_of_legends_cosplay_event_ever_in/

Cringe
https://www.reddit.com/r/cringe/comments/4oq9cj/this_league_of_legends_cosplay_event_has_the/

>> No.9061271

>>9060997

Rauhoitu nyt, höpsö.

I personally do think Närcon needs a HUGE change and people to straight up boycott it. It has a lot of potential and great idea, but I think Närcon might be too big for the organizers to handle: too much to take care of so pretty much everything is half-assed. Finnish con scene appreciates functionality and being on time, a trait that isn't too common in European conventions so it's an experience to see cosplay competition is an hour late and no one seems surprised. But in exchange we don't do anything too ambitious and don't have too many international cons, save for that one trainwreck of a pony convention a few years back.

And for the record, Confusion organizers were invited to Finland a few times and were absolute sweethearts and both sides learned from each other, so I think Swedish con scene has hope. It's just, damn, I wish Närcon arrs would get this shot of enlightenment and learn to improve some of their fuck-ups and admit their mistakes. That would be a great start.

>> No.9061282

>>9060997
That's an awfully high horse you're on.

Is there still oxygen up there?

>>9061112
People DID get sick, but I doubt it was salmonella as much as poor handling of food, especially in regards to allergies.

>>9061271
How big is the avg. Finnish cons? What about the biggest? Just out of curiosity.

>> No.9061286

>>9061271
Did you see the lecture on their yt? It looks like they've been enlightened at least a bit.

>>9061282
Never said they didn't get sick, I just disputed the salmonella part. Although people get sick at cons from other things than food too. (I'm sure the food was a big part though)

>> No.9061304

There's more of the DH cringe!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_wczpjWRtQ

>> No.9061313

>>9061282

Average con? Umm, I guess over a 1000 attendees considering we have a lot of local cons in the north with an attendance of about 500 or less. Tracon in Tampere is our biggest convention, 5000+ attendees per year. The biggest cons sell a limited amount of tickets because of the safety regulations of the venues, so it's unlikely they will get bigger unless they book another venue nearby.

Sorry for the long-ass answer, hope that clarified some things for you!

>> No.9061325

>>9047983
>>9061286
>>9061271
>>9060997
Found this thing, on the topic of Närcon Cosplay comp. Was this what KS was talking about?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3TD_H0wZS4

>> No.9061355

>>9061325
Some rough timekeys, because it's literally hours long:

>1:20
The point of the entire thing
>2:40
Närcons foundation of values
>6:00
Who gets a say in Närcons cosplay comp, and which things are prioritized
>6:45
The history of cosplay at Närcon
>14:45
Current state of affairs
>16:25
Criticism Närcon has recieved in regards to cosplay during the past two years

Key points, because this seems interesting to you guys:
How Närcon deals with master, and the amount of master cosplaypass (How is this best handled? Interest outweighs actual space.)
Care for cosplayers (ex: heatwave NC14)
Performance timespan (see: priorities. Amount of performers vs. length. Also see: TV-cosplay)
Cancelled competition ("Fixed! Now we have a water-safe stage." Tent for the audience is not an option due to money (tent covering 2.5k = 200k SEK, NC counts on audience being ~5k) )
NCC 2015
The scoring weight of craftmanship vs. performance (Sweden historically prioritize craftmanship)
Judges breaking vows of secrecy (Pantzar mentioned by name, where else has this been explicitly discussed? Secrecy vs. openness of the process)
Non-listed point: cosplay Q/A panels. (NO quality control, no control over content (ex. content unsuitable for a family con), convention stands responsible for the panel arrangers shortcomings.)

>22:55
Topics of discussion

Cosplay Classic & esp Master
Length of performance
Level of service for cosplayers
Performance vs. Craftmanship
Control over quality of judges (regardless of standpoint on openness) (ment.: desire for a code of conduct)

>25:50
Discussion begins

Cont. as I watch the thing

>> No.9061692

>>9061355
It got really long so I made a pastebin instead.

http://pastebin.com/hWVuYJL7

Lots of interesting stuff in here. I don't know all the participants, but if you're at all familiar with swedish cosplay community you'll recognize at least a few.

>> No.9062698

>>9060997
onko kiki hyvin?

>> No.9062701

>>9061692
Thanks! I'll check it out.

Anyone see the DreamHack cosplay contest? You would think it couldn't get worse after the LoL showcase but apparently it can. Poor cosplayers. Some of the worst organized mess I've seen.

>> No.9062749

>>9062701
I've seen the showcase, so much cringe, is the contest avaliable somewhere?

Wasn't one of the hosts the girl who usually bashes nc in Sweden Cosplay?

>> No.9062937

http://www.allehanda.se/vasternorrland/ornskoldsvik/anordnar-cosplay-for-de-yngsta-man-far-kla-ut-sig-precis-hur-man-vill
>cosplay
Since when is playing regular dress-up considered cosplay...

>> No.9062952

>>9062937
The article says they haven't gotten all of the supplies delivered yet, it's just kids chill the fuck down.

>> No.9063112

>>9062952
Närcon reposted it and called it cosplay. And I sure as hell hope that the organisers aren't children.

>> No.9063135

>>9063112
http://images.mmcloud.se/api/v1/images/3042ab1d-3082-5b6b-8c31-1be266b7ca9a/600.jpg

So this isn't cosplay? The ambition is to let kids try and dress up as any character they like, just because some 5 year old dressed up as a cowboy doesn't mean that the event itself promotes regular dress up as cosplay. Chill.

>> No.9063136

Srsly what are you, some kind of cosplay purist?

>> No.9064270

>>9063135
>Vi försöker uppmuntra kreativitet och att man får klä ut sig till vad man vill. Här finns inga regler.
It does though.

>> No.9064365

>>9064270
I really don't see why you're getting all bothered by this for. It's just kids trying cosplay, just like little kids learning any other kind of hobby, there are usually little to no rules at the first fotball practise, the kids learn how to kick a ball first.

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she looks so excited about her Sailor Moon costume.......

>> No.9067595

>>9067429
Seriously, they're just kids. The fact that you're bashing them on the internet is really vile.

>> No.9067598

>>9067595
Pretty sure anon's making fun of the person who put the poor child into that "Sailor Moon costume"

>> No.9067603

>>9067598
Pretty much. The rest of the article is fine, like, whatever, honestly. I could stand them encouraging the kids creating a bit more (and I really hope no kid who was super excited to do cosplay got really disappointed) but they're just kids so whatever.

with that said, the combo of picture and text was pretty hilarisad.

>> No.9067656

>>9062749
It's available here on Twitch. Sorry for the hackeup link 4chan thinks it's spam. Just write it in on the regular twitch website and it will come up. Move around to the parts you like:

dreamhack /v/ 73324298

>> No.9067674

>>9062749
Yes it's her which makes the whole thing even more amusing.

>> No.9067702

>>9067674
Who?

>> No.9067811

>>9067656
Watching it now, it's the actual worst. Some of the cosplayers are great but the whole production is awful.

>> No.9068828

Glad midsommar Swegl!

Ha det så kul och festa försiktigt ️

>> No.9070474

With approximately one month left until NärCon I'm seeing a lot of people, especially on facebook, posting about being stressed/excited etc. But a lot of them are also people who were complaining really loudly last year about NärCon being shit.
Why attend again if it was so terrible last year? Has there been some announcement from NC that all the problems have been magically fixed for this year, or are people just masochists?

>> No.9070568

>>9070474
Peer pressure. Not in the way your anti-smoking PSAs told you, but in the sense that people hate being the one left out. If all of our friends are going somewhere, we want to be there too. Even if we know it's a stupid decision. I'll be busy otherplace during NC, but if I wasn't, chances are I'd still end up going over a day because sitting at home doing nothing while all your friends are hanging out with each other and bonding over how shitty the con is...

I think it might be a primal thing; willingly excluding ourself from social experiences shared within a group makes us vulnerable within that group, regardless of whether those experiences are good or bad.

>> No.9074679

one month left. How's the cosplaystress going?

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9075065

>>9074679
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
could be worse

>> No.9075247

>>9074679
I'm already dead, all is fine. Also trying to figure out how to make asymmetrical gems while super allergic to resin/epoxy but mostly dead.

>> No.9075883

>>9074679
Cosplay stress is through the roof because I'm trying to find a good pattern for a very simple and plain dress but apparently no one has ever made this one simple dress before. And I am a Newbie cosplayer so I gotta rely on patterns and don't really dare to improvise for fear of messing up and having to buy even more fabric

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9076477

>>9074679
I'm trying to work on my Chat Noir but everything goes wrong. Currently trying to figure out the stripes on the back of his pants but I can't make it work at all. I hope I'll be able to do it properly soon

>> No.9076479

>>9075883
That's why you should be making mock-ups from cheap fabric anon, if you mess up just adjust your pattern and keep making mock-ups until you've achieved a working pattern. THEN make it out of your real fabric.

>> No.9076488

>>9074679
Nc? What NC. Let's LARP instead.
Have several belts and a big-ass gown to make for Lazarus, which incidentally is like 2 weeks away. Hoo-fucking-ray!

>> No.9076630

>>9076477
What stripes? Isn't Chat Noir an all black bodysuit?

>> No.9076654

>>9076630
Are they talking about the paneling possibly?

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>>9076630
>>9076654
He has stripes on the back of his legs.

>> No.9077400

>>9077376
anon......that's the lighting reflecting off of the fabric material, not stripes

>> No.9077409

>>9077376
>>9077400
yeah, its lighting and/or fabric seams

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9078336

>>9077400
>>9077409
I always saw it as being thin stripes, it can't be reflected light because it appears way too often and too specific to be just that (square on his butt and then stripes down middle of legs). Also I guess it could be seams? But they seem too thick to be just seams.

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9078340

>>9077409
>>9078336
Just adding on that the seams on his gloves are only shown through the pattern being shifted. It makes more sense in the photo I attached. So that's also why I thought they were stripes and not seams.

>> No.9078754

>>9076488
I wanted to do Lazarus this year because I live very close to it and want to get into LARPing but it was intimidating as shit and I have to work...

>> No.9078775

>>9078336
I know this collage is for reference but, damn... that chat ass

>> No.9078922

>>9078754
Eh, I get that. Some people just do it as a day trip, but they're often experienced..

In my opinion, Lazarus is not a newbie-friendly larp, you're gonna have to know how to larp and know some people you can have fun with, even if you don't get any game. I went as a newb and got very little out of it.

Tip is to start with a smaller larp. HP LARPs are great for making friends, lots of n00b and experienced LARPers who are interested in helping n00bs. Those tend to be quite Nordic-style, though.. If work factors in, you should really consider an evening Larp, or just a weekend larp. Domen is known to be good to newbies if you like medival stuff.

What kind of larping are you curious about?

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>>9078775
I must agree with you on that anon

>> No.9078962

>>9078955
>komaeda
a-anon... i think we're having a moment here

>> No.9078967

>>9078922
Kinda figured that it would be like that too, it seems like such a massive world and story that you have to know what you're doing before you throw yourself into it.

Ok, thanks for the tips! Domen sounds like a whole lot of fun and I'd wager that there are probably some cool HP LARPs as well.

If you mean genre I'm mostly interested in high fantasy larping, though I'm open to pretty much anything fantasy/sci-fi as long as it's not one of the weird vampire LARPs. (They have a few of those here and reading about them gives me Twilight flashbacks...)

>> No.9079052

>>9078967
High Fantasy? Not really my game, but Arkatria is meant to be good and especially newbie-friendly, but I'm not sure if that's still around.

There are two major HP LARPs, Bifrost and Yggdrassil. Bifrost is _super_ newb-friendly, lots of Gothenburgers go there, and most of lower Sweden flock to it. It's very intimate and mysigt, great sense of community, even if the budget ain't the highest. It's cheap, and the places don't fill up too quickly. Google Bifrost Lajv if interested. It's in Skillingaryd this year, so not that far.

The second is Yggdrassil. Tickets sell out quickly, and the next LARP will be a winter one. This is fairly newbie-freindly as well, although more advanced than Bifrost. If Bifrost is a hit quirky indie film on a shoestring budget(Which has a really gripping story with feel-good moments), Yggdrassil is the Blockbuster. It takes place in a fucking herrgård upp beyond Stockholm, every single student house, the teachers house, and the prefects have their own sauna. It's expensive as fuck, but the larpers are really nice like at Bifrost, a lot of them are just much more experienced. Plus, there's a lot more larpers, for better and for worse.

See, Bifrost is small, ca 60 people, so it's easy to get to know everyone, and become a face that gets game. Further, the student houses are small, which really gets you into a group. You'll always have the honour of the student house to game with if nothing else.

At Yggdrassil, student houses are bigger, and there are only two. This leads to more game with the prefects, and allows for greater diversity in characters. However, if you're unexperienced, it also means it can be harder to find a group and people to game with.

Bifrost is great, but stricter with what you get to play, and very attached to their own canon(they'll still gladly discuss your ideas for plots and characters though). Yggdrassil has more of an 'anything goes' approach.

>> No.9079056

>>9078967
Also, yes good keep away from vampire larps as a n00b.

They tend to vary in quality alot. Best to hear about a good one from a friend IF it sounds interesting at all, otherwise, really no shame in skipping them. Especially for a first larp.

>> No.9079082

>>9078967


Vampire larps would be great so long as they weren't frequented by Vampire Larpers.
I guess there's just something about the whole thing that attracts assholes and narcissists, and bad actors, like crazy. Something about the whole modern-fantasy, lording over humans, belittling other players and not actually having to physically steal stuff or kill people. but rather having a dice roll decide it for you just pulls in an awfully toxic crowd.
There was a huge sci-fi larp in Gothenburg a few years back. They rented the two museum ships by the old port for a few days to make a Battlestar Galactica larp; they even had access to the cockpit and all. Shame i was too young, poor and too much of a shit to have joined, it seems to kick so much ass.

I haven't really heard of any other scifi larps in Sweden though, unless they're post apoc or is a friends-only larp with 10-15 people involved.

>> No.9079688

>>9079052
I would not say that Yggdrasil has an "anything goes" approach to plot and characters. The SL-group is strict but give the players alternatives and often give feedback on how things would work in the canon.

Yggdrasil is also more of a "Blackbox"-kind of larp were allot of the larpes have "role playing sessions" between the larps to drive their story further. This is why it's not super newbie friendly if you want to get in to the big stuff, since you need to take allot of initiative and wont get "dragged along" on stuff just like that.

It's also a nice Larp to just chill the fuck out, hang with nice people, eat good food and have a good time. If you want to start there, a good idea is to become a member of all the diferent FB group they have (srsly they are like 15 different of them, from teatchers to pure-blood groups and we digg in on the important issues... like wedding traditions and other weird stuff.)

//Yggdrasil player

>> No.9080509

>Favorite band is BatAAr
>They've been doing con appearances in Sweden lately
>I haven't been to any of those cons
>Going to NärCon
>BatAAr haven't announced any NärCon plans at all

kill me

>> No.9080812

>>9080509
>Bataar
>favorite band
Oh god I'm so sorry for your lack of taste, I can't believe people over 15 actually like those twats.

>> No.9083790

what's a good first international con for a swede who miss Uppcon and has never been conventioning abroad? I was looking at finnish cons but I don't speak any finnish and I'm not even sure where to start.

>> No.9083803

>>9083790
Genki in Denmark maybe

>> No.9083942

>>9083790
You know you can speak English with them right and that some even speak Swedish? Swedish is one of the main official languages and all the signs come in Swedish as well. Finnish Desucon is a really nice experience if you want to get the gist of what Finnish cons are about, interesting panels, nice cosplay, and chilling. The alcohol is a bonus. Aim for Desucon Frostbite.

>> No.9084135

>>9083803
>>9083790
Agree with this anon, I'm from DK and Genki is a very nice and fun con imo.

>> No.9084162

>>9083942
Yes! But speaking with some finns it seems like most finn cons still have programming mainly in finnish. Danish and Norwegian I can somewhat understand, Finnish is just... nope. Might look into that, though.

Desucon is 18+, right?

>>9084135
>>9083803
When is Genki? Anything about the con I really can't miss if I decide to go?

>> No.9084230

>>9084162
Genki is the 22nd of July this year, it's usually held after Närcon but because of some stuff it's earlier this time. I'm not sure about events since it varies which I attend but the cosplayshow saturday and craftmanship sunday are the ones i always go to no matter what.

>> No.9084433

I'm going to Genki this year, bringing a few Swedes.

>> No.9087536

>>9084162
Desucon Frostbite in the winter is 18+ yes and it's definitely a relief if you are used to Swedish cons. I can understand the part about panels, though I believe that we can be quite accomodating to Swedes if they need help understanding. Just make sure to make friends right away and it will probably be smooth. Bonus point for beautiful venue as well.

>> No.9087837

>>9083942
A tip from a native Finn: Do _not_ speak Swedish to the Finns. Nobody actually knows how to speak it and nobody understands actual Swedish (or "Rikksvenska"), the Swedish we are taught is the Finnish Swedish dialect. Just speak English and you'll be fine because everyone is fluent in it and in my experience most Finnish congoers are happy to speak English to foreigners. The street signs are in Swedish only in bilingual cities, but on the other hand bilingual status requires only around a 5% Swedish-speaking population.

Seconding Frostbite though, both Desucons are good choices and used to Swedish guests too.

>> No.9087921

>>9087837

Man I'd love to go to Desucon, but I don't think I'd be able to convince any of my friends to go.

An 18+ cons sounds really great.

>>9080509

They'll be at the Namco Bandai panel on Friday.

>> No.9089580

>>9087921
Trust me, a 18+ con is the greatest experience ever.

>> No.9089996

>>9089580
As a 20-something I am very interested in an 18+ con, but I kind of want to know more before I spend a ton of money flying over the ocean to attend one.
Could you maybe describe the differences between an 18+ con and an "all ages allowed" con? Minus the obvious that there's no 12 year olds running around screaming

>> No.9089997

totally forgot närcon is a thing.

is it possible to sell fanart there? thinking of doing next year.

>> No.9090083

>>9089997
there is an artist alley from what i remember

>> No.9090342

>>9089996
There's alcohol.

>> No.9090823

>>9090342
Wow what a great way to make people interested. I am totally sold.

>> No.9091840

How are your cosplays coming along?

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>>9061271
>boycott
Hello cgl, I'm from /fa/ but I do attend Närcon sometimes and thought that I should give some input on this matter.

I have worked at Närcon a couple of times and each time in a different field.
Each time has been a big fucking shit storm. Everything that you think can go wrong, goes wrong.
Managers doesn't do shit and just chill around all the time.
Or they play the victim card and cry all day about the "pressure".
Just don't become a manager if you can't handle it, cause it will just make it harder for everyone else.

There's also so much unethical behaviour behind the scenes that it's fucking disgusting.
>people bail their work so someone else gotta fill in for them
>very little sleep because someone didn't show up to take your spot
>the owners doesn't give a fuck, probably only does it for the $$$

The owners doesn't come by when things go wrong, hell, they don't even check if everything is under control when things are alright.
They don't solve problems, they just ignore it.

So yeah, please boycott this shitty con, but at the same time what else is there?
>rip uppcon
Someone start a new con pls.
Närcon is a fucking shitty meme.

Are the cosplay activities/jap fashion activities badly managed or are they better? Never been to them.

>> No.9093432

>>9092661
>someone start a new con pls
Well we already have a dozen small and steadily growing cons in Sweden, why not check those out?

>> No.9093508

>>9093432
Any in Stockholm you would recommend?

>> No.9093579

>>9093508
There are no cons in Stockholm, hasn't been since Kawaiicon.

I've heard a lot of good stuff about Storcon, who were last weekend, which is north of Uppsala. Uppsala also has Peppcon which, on the other hand, sucks
Picacon in Kristinehamn (northeast shore of Vänern) was apparently pretty neat as well.

Most other cons are a fair bit further away.

>> No.9094030

>>9090823
This is an 18+ website fuckface

>> No.9094089

>>9094030
If I want to drink at a con I take some friends and go to a bar, jackass.

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Is there anyone that smokes and might wanna share one or two? If thinking of bringing a few grams

>> No.9094922

>>9094030
When you were younger, did you wait to go to porn site till you was 18?

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So are there ever any Swedish seagull meetups at Närcon, or are people worried about showing that they go to 4chan? A site that, as everyone knows, is full of soggy knees, sexists, transphobes, homophobes, islamophobes, arachnophobes, etc.

I dunno, just seems like it could be fun.

>> No.9095049

I had forgotten that tit-lord was visiting us this year (or was it just announced? idk). Are you all excited to see on of the most famous and scantily clad cosplayers out there?

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>>9040826
Well.

>> No.9095186

>>9095049
Slut shaming, how quaint.

>> No.9095188

>>9094918
Honestly all in for lighting up but don't do it at nc man. They'll have night club guards during the evenings now and those mofos won't hesitate to call the cops.

>> No.9095421

soooo is anyone actually looking forward to the con?

>> No.9095429

>>9094030
>someone isn't impressed by alcohol
>MUST BE A MINOR GOTTA CHASE AWAY

lmao

>> No.9095432

>>9095421
I do alot, been there twice and i agree last year was kinda bad compared to 2014, but i still had a good time

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>>9095188
Fences & shit, but i think it will be fine, im used to go shopping and so on, just act normal and use eye drops

but idk, still thinking about it

>> No.9095540

>>9094030
furious finfag detected

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If any of you guys are gonna be at Närcon the 29:th, come check out the cosplay Master competition at 10 PM. I'll be competing with my Chaos Space Marine armor.

>> No.9100106

Do you think we can keep this thread alive until NärCon? How's people's cosplay progress going?

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>>9100106
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>> No.9100295

>>9100151
what's that thing on the tree stump? a large needle and thread?

>> No.9101401

>>9100106
What >>9100151 said, but slightly more disheartened.

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>>9100106
I'm.. Sorta kinda getting there bit by bit. This Chat Noir cosplay is killing me

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>>9101514
>Två veckor kvar
>Utannonserar bal
>Good luck getting anything ready in time plebs

>> No.9101640

>>9080812
Vendetta-chan? Or are they actually twats?

>> No.9101680

>>9101640
>been active since 2007 but won't admit it
>at least one of them have a habit of cheating on their girlfriends over and over again
>more than one of them is openly racist
>trash talks EVERYONE they come across
>self-absorbed as FUCK

And it's only the tip of the iceberg when it comes to these weebs. Their new singer seem sort of ok if you don't care about all his shooping.

>> No.9102051

Think Pokemon Go will get officially released before närcon?

>> No.9102388

>>9101522
People are probably just going to wear crap, which is too bad because it would be cool if people had time to make proper ball-cosplays.

>> No.9102400

>>9102388
I've seen people asking around for regular prom dresses to fit their characters. It won't be good at all

>> No.9102476

>>9102400
How's that bad? I'd rather people buy something that makes sense than just go casual or try and throw together a ballgown in two weeks...

>> No.9102504

>>9090823
Honestly I wouldn't recommend Desucon for your first Finnish con. The only difference being a 18+ con makes is literally just less people (sometimes they even know how to behave but don't count on that) and alcohol.
Tracon would be a better choice, it's a bit more diverse in terms of program and they often have english panels too. The tickets sell out relatively fast though, so you have to know well in advance if you're going or not.
Desucon is going down the party con path really fast which is a shame because alcohol you can get anywhere, good program you can't.

>> No.9102524

>>9102504
Isn't Tracon already sold out, though? I'd like a con in the span of late August -> February, any nordic country is fine and I might even stretch to north/middle Europe and the british isles.

>> No.9104765

Realized this thread is going to auto-sage very soon. Maybe it's worth making a thread after NärCon seeing that people seem to be in pre-con panic cosplay mode right now

>> No.9104785

Apparently ext arr have been promised better treatment this year than they got last year. Remains to be seen how legit that promise is

>> No.9105072

>>9104785
Seeing as they get free food this year I would think so.

>> No.9105473

>>9105072
That's what they've said, but we don't know yet if they'll follow through. If there's something I've learned about närcon in the last few years it's to not trust their word on anything until I can actually see it for myself

>> No.9105805

>>9102524
I'm guessing you don't want a con that small, but I have to hype our tiny local con - AniMatsuri is happening in september in Estonia, and it's a very cozy atmosphere con, the panels are generally of acceptable quality but not great, the cosplays usually have a couple shining stars and you should give our country tourist money anyway
Tracon was sold out like a full month ago or so I'm quite sure, I was invited around there and found out only saturday tix are left

>>9104765
honestly I think we could just make a combined Finnish and Swedish thread when this sages, both countries have been coming up in this thread quite a bit and the threads both take ages to fill anyway
(and then us 4-5 eestis who lurk the board can also shamelessly intervene)

>> No.9105814

>>9105805

I agree, there is much overlap between the Finnish and Swedish thread anyway. Perhaps a joint Nordic thread if Estonia would like to join? I sometimes see doomed to fail Danish threads (but can't remember seeing Norwegians) so there are definitely Nordic lurkers.

>> No.9105818

>>9105805

Reminds me of the Estonia SaTW comic btw satwcomic.com/party-crasher

We should invite Scotland as well with the whole Brexit thing going on. I'd love to hang with them too

>> No.9105828

>>9105805
Can we make a Scandinavia thread?

>> No.9105892

>>9105805
Aw, I just might! I've Esti blood, so, hey.
But right now I'm looking mostly for bigger cons q:

Also seconding a scandi/nordic thread.

>> No.9105904

>>9101680
Lol. I guess you know them then?

>> No.9106022

>>9105904
We've met a few times. They're the laughing stock of most of the Swedish Jfash community for a reason.

>> No.9106037

>>9101680
lmao, making shit up now are we?
they've always been super nice when I've met them

>> No.9106043

>>9101680
They said that they've been active in literally all interviews, personal ask.fm profiles etc.

Check your facts before spewing this kind of crap out.

>> No.9106048

>>9106022

Swedish Jfash community can laugh all they want when they're the only non-jap J-influenced band who can actually play their instruments and tour Japan regularly, I think they're gnarly as shit

>> No.9106118

>>9105814
>>9105818
>>9105828
>>9105892
the current Finnish thread is at like 150 replies atm though, I guess I'll pop over and provide the suggestion. this thread is officially now in sage so maybe we should hold off on making a new one before finns say something

>> No.9106467

>>9106022
Well at least they go to Japan regulary compared to the "J-fash community". Sounds like they're just jelly.

>> No.9106513

>>9106022
Because the Swedish J-fashion community isn't laughing stock on their own? topkek

>> No.9107312

>>9106118
Finland said fuck no so I just went ahead and made a new thread

>>9107308
>>9107308
>>9107308

>> No.9107481

>>9037603
That was like the UK with ECG last year

>> No.9107566

>>9107312
luv u

>> No.9107566,1 [INTERNAL] 

The instagram-girl you posted about cringing to in this post is my fucking friend and you don't know half of the shit that woman goes through you sexistic, trabsphobic pieces of cowards!! Who the fuck do you think you are?!! As you 7? She saw it all fucktards and it's out there and we will make sure you'll be banned from here asshats!