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8936093 No.8936093 [Reply] [Original]

What's the point of a maid cafe if none of the waitresses are cute? It's no wonder they never took off outside Japan, the girls who sign up are always unwashed weebs in shitty party city maid uniforms. Maid cafe thread?

>> No.8936096
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8936096

First maid cafe in NY. Look at how shit those uniforms are.

>> No.8936097

>>8936093

maid cafes outside Jap should be way stricter on uniform rules desu

like make wigs and proper maid makeup mandatory, otherwise it looks shoddy as hell

>> No.8936098

>>8936093
I think all maids look shit, japanese or not. The japanese ones don't care much about quality and western maids throw random edgy stuff in to make them unique. Maids only look cute in anime.

>> No.8936100

>>8936098
https://scontent.fmel1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xat1/v/t1.0-9/12189076_910195159068078_7848584462121827837_n.jpg?oh=2f333725a4a5fd21d2bdbfec4fcf320c&oe=5780B460

YOU TAKE THAT BACK

>> No.8936103

>>8936100
Is it summer already?

>> No.8936104

>>8936096
They're closed now.

>> No.8936113

>>8936098
Nah, there are very cute japanese maids.

>>8936104
I guess that's because they confused working at a maid café with having fun in cute costumes and be admired for it?

>> No.8936136

>>8936103

Its always summer on 4chan.

>> No.8936138

>>8936098
Have you never been to an @home cafe?

>> No.8936178

I know people say maid cafes will never work outside of cons in America, but what about something along the lines of a Cafe Swallowtail-esque type deal? Where the focus is more an elegant environment and making the customer feel like royalty.

>> No.8936207

There's a few people trying to make it happen in Brazil but all of the maids are ugly as shit.
Also they have no idea what they are doing and the food looks disgusting, it's kept the whole day out in the open.
And the drinks take a shit ton of time to get to the table... they want to actually open a business.. Ha ha ha

>> No.8936214

>>8936093
The two in the middle are cute. Left side is good looking but the right side has the jowls of marlon brando.

>> No.8936230

what i want to know is why don't they buy matching uniforms? they look fucking stupid in random ones.

that said, they suck here because the people who open them are fug weebs who focus on being kawaii animu shits with their friends and don't understand how to food/service.

i actually have a lot of restaurant experience(i'm a professional pastry chef) and I worked the front of house(waitressing) for many years before that. but sadly i don't have the funds or resources to open one, and my local con can't host one because of the hotel rules. shit just sucks all around.

>> No.8936239
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>>8936093
I think Western girls who are old enough to work in these places are often also too old to look kawaii. Even if they take care of themselves and are attractive it looks very indecent. More sex toy staff than cute cafe.

I'd totally go to some Victorian/Edwardian maid cafe though.

>> No.8936255

>>8936239
this so much.

totally done with this kawaii maid weeaboo shit

>> No.8936258

>>8936230
i work in a convention maid cafe each year and we have consistent uniforms among the staff.

I think a big problem (and one we wanna change this year) is girls going crazy with accessories, hair etc., practically cosplaying while working as a maid

like it looks like crap if you've got weirdly mismatched maids everywhere, natural brown-black wigs should be mandatory imo and makeup/accessories should be consistent among maids

>> No.8936260 [DELETED] 

>>8936230

By the things that get mentioned here, I feel like the owners of such cafés rarely have a solid concept how to make the business work except "drinks & food with kawaii~ meidos". Often they aren't even looking good at all. A decent venue, good location, decent and clever promotion, solid appearance (working clothes are called uniforms for a good reason..) and a solid menu offer. And ofc there's the thing with actual good looking waitresses. Prepare your butt for complains, because why can't I be a kawaii meido I'm sososo kawaii~~.

And I guess even if you manage these problems and open up a high quality establishment, you will have a hard time to get customers in. I'd go as far and say this is the hindrance where almost all projected cafés will fail. Saving yourself a piece of the cake on the market will be a hard test. And if you still feel like you want to pull it through, the horrendous amount of costs you have to pay until now will finally put you back to the ground.

All in all a risky high effort low profit business idea and a cringey one for everyone business expert.

>> No.8936267

>>8936230

By the things that get mentioned here, I feel like the owners of such cafés rarely have a solid concept how to make the business work except "drinks & food with kawaii~ meidos". Often they aren't even looking good at all. A decent venue, good location, decent and clever promotion, solid appearance (working clothes are called uniforms for a good reason..) and a solid menu offer. And ofc there's the thing with actual good looking waitresses. Prepare your butt for complains, because why can't I be a kawaii meido I'm sososo kawaii~~.

And I guess even if you manage these problems and open up a high quality establishment, you will have a hard time to get customers in. I'd go as far and say this is the hindrance where almost all projected cafés will fail. Saving yourself a piece of the cake on the market will be a hard test. And if you still feel like you want to pull it through, the horrendous amount of costs you have to pay until now will finally put you back to the ground.

Also don't underestimate the fetish, otaku, creepy, anti-women rights, discrimination shitstorm once you get picked up by the media.


All in all a risky high effort low profit business idea and a cringey one for every business expert.

>> No.8936304

>>8936178
In general I don't think any role-play (for the lack of a better term) does well at leaat in the states outside of male fantasy establishments like Hooters. Maybe space in the UK where people are warming back up to the idea of having help thanks to shows like Downtown Abbey. The whole Kawaii aesthetic doesn't exist in the west past a certain age. The idea of going to a cafe where girls will dance and sing and call you master in a high pitched voice without doing anything remotely sexual besides questionable skirt length is laughable.

>> No.8936310

>>8936239
lmao this reminds me, I went to this fancy looking dim sum place last week and all the waitresses were wearing those kind of victorian style maid outfits.
The place was also decorated like a rococo era ballroom.

>> No.8936313

>>8936310
victorian era dim dums sounds like my kinda place

>> No.8936374

>>8936304

Yes, I realize they would really have to tone down the role-play aspect to make it work here in the States.

That said, I agree that, by and large, the West has a really, really hard time handling the concept of cute past tweenhood. It's why I think the moe/kawaii cafes would never ever work outside the niche market. I'm just wondering if there's a large enough market for that old fashioned European Aristocrat vibe.

>> No.8936389

>>8936093
>>8936096
I guess i'm a little weird for thinking this, but to an extent trying to look 'asian cute/kawaii' does not work for a number of girls, and it looks kind of '
off compared to what they are going for...

But there are western cute looks that are unfortunately overshadowed by the 'sexy' look and even fetishism over the innocent look.

>> No.8936391

>>8936389
aah, and i mean, not clothes and stuff, but the way makeup is applied and hair is done.

>> No.8936404

I think it would work better if it was more like "cute waitresses wear cute uniforms" sort of thing. Without the dancing or the goushinjinsama shit.
Maybe they'll draw something on the omuriceu for you if you order it.

>> No.8936410
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8936410

Maid cafe from japan for comparison. The uniforms are cute as fuck, I would love to work at one of those things if they looked that cute in the US.

>> No.8936455

>>8936214
I didn't know horse faces were cute.

>> No.8936517
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This cafe is pretty popular in my state, I think they do a good job and are pretty consistent in terms of uniform

>> No.8936541

>>8936517
Some of those peko peko girls are not cute. Never gone, but they must be good to be at every fl con.

>> No.8936568

>>8936517
Second girl from the left is way too ugly to be working as a maid. At least, the kawaii kind. She could pass for a hotel maid.

>> No.8936598

>>8936093
If you think all girls working in maid cafés in Japan are cute you have a mad case of yellow fever. Most of them are average.

>> No.8936712

>>8936097
I agree. The cotton candy wigs with racoon esque makeup is not cute. Watching some of @homw's videos, the girls all have hair colors that are somewhat natural (even the blonde girls don't have yellow hair ) and in nice simple hairstyles. Their makeup is also light and cute. Some girls just are unfortunate looking, but some girls can be fixed with a bit of powder.

I also disagree, there are plenty of cute Western girls. It all depends if they are styled correctly and not super tryhard. In contrast there are ugly Japanese maids.

>> No.8937022

>>8936304
>Maybe space in the UK where people are warming back up to the idea of having help thanks to shows like Downtown Abbey

yeeeeeeeeah, no. Maybe you could market that to britaboo tourists--maybe--but British people would cringe hard and not patronize it anymore than Americans would in the US. Otherwise yes, it is the very, very different concepts of straight male pandering between Japanese and western cultures. The US does essentially have maid cafes. Hooters, Tilted Kilt, etc. That's pandering to generic cultural tastes of American straight men the same way maid cafes pander to the generic cultural tastes of dweeby Japanese straight men. Average, non-otaku Japanese straight men are going elsewhere for that kind of attention and pandering.

>> No.8937052

Who is the WORST maid cafe? The Mint Maids in Philly are atrocious. The leader forces conversations about her BDSM fetishes to customers. The rest are uggo who claim to be asian.

>> No.8937054
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>>8937052
Dropped pic

>> No.8937074

>>8937054
Pochaco forgot her headphones

>> No.8937075

>>8936598
This, this thread reeks of yellow fever.

>> No.8937086

The problem is a maid cafe is a magical fantasy here to the people working it, by necessarily to the customers. In Japan it is the other way around, the girls have a job they like and the customers get the fantasy.

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>>8937093
I don't even know where to begin jesus christ

>> No.8937122

>>8936258
I think a unique hair color and style per maid would look ok as long as they were natural colors and not really -out there- styles. But it's a uniform, so no extra jewelery besides maybe a pretty short pendant, preferably matching too and cleanliness, neatness, food safety when setving, nice nails and pretty beauty makeup are a must in addition to any singing, dancing, 'yes master' games, etc.

>> No.8937124

>>8937093
I wouldn't eat food served by these people. They all look grubby.

>> No.8937153

>>8937074
Don't insult my waifu

>> No.8937199

>>8936455
Sorry hear your bitter resentment for women who are marginally better looking than you.

Don't worry, you'll find your 10/10 qt 3.14 husbando
;)

>> No.8937209

>>8936178
I'd say hooters is the US equivalent to Maid Cafés.

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8937374

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSVUXjCHAcc

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>>8937374
I forgot what I was going to say. I'll just post pictures.

>> No.8937383

Opinions on the Mochi Maid Cafe?

>> No.8937410

>>8937375
I feel like if our US cafes were styled this simple and put together it would make a hell of a difference.

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>>8937374

>> No.8937418

>>8937093
Wow that guy in the back left is actually pretty hot.

Anyways maid cafes will never work in the US because of HAES.

>> No.8937419

>>8937374
How is Hitomi still working there? I figured she'd have gotten to old for this considering she's been there for years.

>> No.8937427

>>8936104

Not surprising, those food costs seem really low for NY. Maid cafes probably should be serving premium quality foods at premium prices (because you're paying for a quirky experience)

>> No.8937428

>>8936541
They're only in the north Florida ones. South Florida has a different one iirc

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>>8937383
Just googled them
From appearance alone they seem alright but those uniforms are all over the place

>> No.8937492

>>8936096
Lol, a Crepe is only $2 less than a Beef Bowl.
The fuck pricing no wonder they closed.

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>>8937093
The one with the blue gloves holding that damn vape like a cigarette...

>> No.8937501

I think the person who said that its a fantasy for the customer and not the maids hit the nail on the head. People who set up cafes in america usually hire their friends or try not to be mean by turning someone away because they're not cute. It's amateur. If they at least had the hiring standards of Hooters, and they weren't all moe moe kyun desu, they could get away with it. MAYBE.

On a side note, @home cafe is expensive as fuck and I feel like the parfait they served me gave me cancer, it was so sugary. And also it had corn flakes at the bottom. Blech. But I went on my birthday and got a free picture of myself with all of the maids there? So that's cool I guess.

If you imported the japanese maid cafe system to america, no one would go. Shitty food, a fee just to walk in, and weird fetishy stuff. It definitely has to be altered.

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>>8937418
Really? Please love yourself, anon.

>> No.8937571

>>8937501
This.
Theme cafes can work (like pirate theme!) as long as it's either for kids, or there is alcohol involved. I've done pirate-themed boat ride type things that were lots of fun. During the day, they catered to kids with a simple story and at night it was tailored for drunk people with suggestive jokes and they gave out shots. A bar/restaurant could easily copy that idea and do a pirate theme, or a magic theme, or

But maid theme is just weird in the US unless it's strip club type fetish maids in vegas. We just don't have a cultural concept of maid theme like Japan does. Maid anime isn't on TV here. The closest thing is stuff like downton abbey, but I would argue that most viewers see themselves more like the help in those shows than the aristocrats who are often played up as being ridiculously out of touch.

We have the pornographic french maid trope, and we have the girl next door nanny who's boss is a widower or divorcing, who falls in love with her, or makes her a movie star or something trope. But people who watch that stuff see themselves in the nanny, not the rich guy.

>> No.8937574

>>8937512
Not them, but I also think he isn't bad looking.

>> No.8937588

>>8937512
Different anon, but he does have a nice facial structure, specifically his cheekbones. With better styling he would be noticeably more attractive.

>> No.8937600

>>8937054
what sort of nefarious plan is the one on the right contemplating

>> No.8937757

>>8937075
Maybe you have white fever? Stop pretending your taste is the status quo.

>> No.8938406

>>8937479
Some are kinda cute. The lot of them are ugly wouldn't want them serving me food.

>> No.8938463

>>8937479
Why would a land whale want to be a maid?

>> No.8938466
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Dunno if they're still running but this was the staff of a maid cafe that was run here in a random sports bar on Saturdays.

>> No.8938477
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>>8937479
Here's a more recent picture of them. They've got more cute maids and I think their uniforms are now regulated. When they were starting out, all the maids had to make their own uniforms, which is probably still the case, but I think they use the same basic pattern now at least.

>> No.8938484

>>8938477
some of them look cute, but all i can imagine are those huge sleeves dragging in the food and getting gross. food safety exists for a reason

>> No.8938485

>>8937495
caterpillar

>> No.8938491

>>8938477
>>8938484
worst thing is that they have sleeve tiebacks for kimono style sleeves when working with food/cleaning. it's a legit traditional thing. ugh.

>> No.8938520

>>8938484
I think they also have normal uniforms too, but the hotel that hosted this con wouldn't let them serve food. They're just recycling these uniforms that I believe were made for Asian culture fest performances since the theme for the con was hana matsuri.
I think some the girls are missing from the photo though, since I know some of them. I can't vouch for how they are as an actual maid café though, since I stopped going to their events a long time ago.

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There's 2 maid cafés in Scotland and they're on very different ends of the spectrum.
Marshmallow Dreams runs at convention events and have the occasional cafe in a suitable city centre location, all the girls are well polished, cute and just of a very good calibre. Pic related.

Maid In Scotland on the other hand is disorganised, cringey and all the girls bar maybe two are ungroomed/badly dyed hair/greasy, a creepy neckbeard 'butler' and one obese girl who sticks out like a sore thumb. The events are more frequent but it's mostly just friends of the maids who go. I'll post pic below.

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>>8938527
Pic related: Maid in Scotland

>> No.8938538

>>8938466

>maid cafe that was run here in a random sports bar on Saturdays.
>Sports bar
>Saturdays

I doubt they're still going if that was their venue

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>>8938532
fixed it for fapping purposes

>> No.8938587

Thoughts on Sweet Cupcake Maid Cafe in England? They've not been active for a while.

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I heard event was a mess, but not because of maids

>> No.8938877

>>8938484
There was no food at the convention that took place in, catering issues with the hotel.

>> No.8938983

>>8938855
did they seriously put the guest in the back for a photo? shouldnt they be front and center?

>> No.8939199

>>8938587
post pictures

>> No.8939217
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>>8936096

I'm noticing that the lace is cheap and they didn't bother to iron those costumes.

I think a western maid cafe would do better if they ditched the cute and went more classy. A standard uniform and a dress code which includes hair and makeup would work.

It would also have to be more of a classy-tea room, although that makes it a different experience than a weeby maid cafe.

In fact I think a classy tea-room with maids would actually do better business in Japan than it would here.

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>>8939217

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>>8939224

>> No.8939230

>>8936093
I feel like I could totally work in a maid cafe, small and good face, but I would be afraid of who else would want to work there

>> No.8939231

>>8938477
I'm not a fan of the kimono thing honestly. Some of them are cute. That whale in the top second to the right though jfc.

>> No.8939232

>>8937492
To be fair, that pricing for NYC is slightly less than average. Crepes run from 5 to 12 dollars in Manhattan, and the 5 dollar ones are really waffle batter pancakes from food carts.

>> No.8939235

>>8937428
Kira Hoshi is the South Florida one.

>> No.8939294

>>8938466
The guy in the middle looks like a creep I knew in high school.

>> No.8939304

>>8938855
Brown haired girl on the left is really cute, dark haired guy in the back with glasses is hot.

>> No.8939330

Does anyone happen to know of an extremely short maid costume for sale on ebay or aliexpress?
I'd need it to be like 75cm or shorter, I'm a womanlet

>> No.8939347

>>8939330
Just buy a normal one and take up the hem?

>> No.8939355

>>8939347
I am a completely skill-less hack
I can't draw a straight line much less sew one by hand

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>>8939235
any opinions on this cafe?

>> No.8939477

>>8936517
how about they actually match completely because all the different stockings and shoes throw me off and make some look trashy and others more homey. Theres like 3 decent girls only in this group

>> No.8939491

>>8939386
uggh they are in South Florida, Miami mostly and honestly not that great at all.

>> No.8939493

>>8939217
>In fact I think a classy tea-room with maids would actually do better business in Japan than it would here.

I can't remember the name, but there's definitely a maid cafe in Tokyo that focuses on a more mature and refined victorian aesthetic. Their patrons include a higher percentage of women and older men.

>> No.8939507

>>8939386
>>8939491
I went to one of their events once and it wasn't so bad. Food wasn't that great but eh the event was fun. Why do you think they suck?

>> No.8939533

>>8936100
lol that ying tze

>> No.8939544

>>8939386
Those dresses are fucking cute as hell. Anyone know where they bought them?

>> No.8939548

>>8939544
Bodyline

>> No.8939552

>>8939217

Yeah. Otaku may have disposable income but only few have the capacity to be into food as they are into figurines and cosplay outfits. A high tea room with maids would work though. A "buy me a tea set and we sit down and chat" wipl be profitable

>> No.8939558

>>8939548
Guess I should get myself one. I really like the pink one.. Wait. Is this the one that people kept saying come in super short and not like the stock photos?

>> No.8939567

>>8939558
It doesn't look short on them

>> No.8939599

I'd rather be served by andro women dressed as hot butlers desu

>> No.8939629

>>8939599
I would kill for this holy balls... I am forever doomed to be round faced animu

>> No.8939736

>>8938491
You just use a himo and tie them up, god it's not rocket science, there are even several tutorials

>> No.8939740

>>8937419
How old is she? If she's late twenties early thirties I gotta step my beauty/cutesy regimen up. All hope ain't lost.

>> No.8939755

>>8939740
Are you Asian? Won't do much if you aren't blessed with Asian genes.

>> No.8940168

>>8938983
That`s not a guest. One of the organisators I think

>> No.8940202

>>8939386
The one with the braids and glasses looks cute as fuck

>> No.8940469
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Maids Of England give hope to the gaijin maid cafe scene imo. They're always well-organised these days and the current maids are cute as hell. The uniforms are nice too.

>> No.8940478

>>8936304
>>8937022
In my city in the UK there's a traditional tea/coffee shop in a victorian building where the waitresses wear maid outfits and it really enhances the whole atmosphere of the place. Not the frilly kawaii kind, like long victorian skirts and aprons with headdresses. I think that kind of thing stepped up a notch could fly, in the Downton Abbey sense, but anything cutesy or "master"-ish would just attract mumsnet outrage and Daily Mail articles accusing them of being softcore bdsm fetish cafes.

>> No.8940482

>>8939493
There's Cure and Shatskiste.

Forever missing La Vie En Rose.

>> No.8940491

Glad trashy maid caffés aren't just in my country. It's always terrible here half of the maids are just plain unattractive, uniforms aren't matching, accessory aren't matching, random collars or other edgy shit, food/drinks are pretty subpar and general trashiness.

Like I don't expect them to have expensive shit and high quality costumes but just at least try to be that neat-clean maids that match. I wouldn't even mind paying premium prices.

>> No.8940514

Head Maid of almost ten years coming out of lurking here.

I wrote a panel and explored the social science behind why maid cafes can exist in Japan and are actually incredibly successful, vs why they don't and won't ever work in the United States, for example. The simple explanation is that the cultural mindset or zeitgeist is just nonexistent in American culture.

Maid cafes do very well in Japan because they're centered on the idea of creating a safe "fantasy" or "non-real" space. Outcasts who usually feel out-of-place in all or most aspects of modern Japanese society find the maid cafe to be a "safe space" fabricated just for them. They're free to exist and be themselves in this space. I think the audience is much larger and more concentrated in Japan, especially within the city limits of Tokyo or more specifically Akihabara.

The market DOES exist in America; it's why anime conventions and the like can exist in the first place. Those are fabricated "safe" spaces as well. But the market for maid cafes isn't big enough to sustain them all year round, for instance. The New York cafe was a good experiment. It eventually failed. And we can look to that silly Detroit cafe as a clear example.

You've got to have basic business sense if you want to open a maid cafe, you've got to be a people person, you've got to be able to be confident, you've got to learn to trust and rely on other people, you've got to be willing to work for a team, you've got to be willing to put in the hours, you've got to learn basic acting, and you've got to be a teacher. It's actually all very fascinating.

That said, you've also got to be professional.

Also, a lot of cafes don't work as actual cafes because the hotel or convention spaces just can't or won't accommodate a cafe which serves food unless the licensing is there (it's expensive) or unless the hotel/center is making money from it.

>> No.8940531

>>8936517
I am getting really tired of those stockings....

>> No.8940533
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>>8939567
I have this exact set, I'm 5'8", and it covers my ass well enough without a petti. It's about mid thigh with a petti. It looks exactly like the stock images, though be warned, the lace on the skirt hem is shit, so if you want quality, you'll have to swap it out.

pic related, unironed w/ a-line petti.
I highly recommend ironing it, it looks so much better after an ironing.

>> No.8940549

>>8939491
They've never done an event in Miami though

>> No.8940629

>>8940531
oh my god fucking same. Those animal tights are never cute.

>> No.8940634

>>8940469
Aw the little kiirotori on that one girl's head.

>> No.8940638
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8940638

I saw these on my dash and came to post.

>> No.8940639
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8940639

>>8940638

>> No.8940640

>>8940638
>>8940639
Meant to say saw these on google search idk where "my dash" came from I'm tired.

>> No.8940642

>>8938572
>10 in pic + 1 fatty
>remove fatty
>picture is half size

top fucking kek

>> No.8940646

>>8940469
Their uniforms are all over the place, and honestly their 'performances' are always god awful. I usually have to leave as their is something wrong with their singing. Most of the girls are okay, the boys of them . .. whoo no.

>> No.8940649

>>8940646
ooohhh salty

>> No.8940654

>>8940649
Mmm not really ?
I just think their singing and dancing are low quality and the personalities are so badly acted it's horrendous to watch.
And you haven't seen pics of the lads.

>> No.8940656

>>8940649
Not the anon but honestly their performances really are shit. The butlers are pretty ugly and cringy too.

>> No.8940662

>>8939355
Some taobao shops do custom sizing. Cosplay shops do custom sizing on ebay too

>> No.8940673

>>8940514
yeah pretty much it

First and foremost, a real cafe needs to be a business. Unfortunately the cafe in NY had that foundation but it lacked a lot of important things within the people and management. I worked there a few months before they closed and it sucked to see so much potential be lost

>> No.8940677

>>8936098
Sounds like you're just bitter you've never been to a real japanese maid cafe, anon.

>> No.8941140

>>8939740
I'm not sure how old she is, but she's been a maid there since at least 2011. But then maybe she started working there in her late teens.

>> No.8941225
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Just an idea but I feel like if you played the line between a few things it would have a much wider appeal. For instance, you could do a maid cafe that appealed to the weeby culture, I mean like the fact its a maid cafe, have some cutesy food, a few girls in thigh highs ect; but then also make appeals to the wider populace, for instance taking advantage of game of throne's popularity, get the girls to call the costumers, my lord, lady, ser ect which would help appeal not only to medieval fantasy type stuff, but also weebs into kuroshitsuji and the likes as well as teaboos. Have the girls all in actually matching uniforms with only one or so alterable part, for instance skirt length, and maybe let them have a small embroidered sigil on the apron or vest to further cater to the got fans. Possibly have different coloured skirts allowed but that might look messy. Actual quality uniforms would have to be made to avoid looking like Halloween serving wench costumes. Attractive girls would obviously help and makeup and well styled or looked after hair in my opinion would also do the cafe a lot of favours. I also think it would be up to the girls to figure out to pander more to the moe appeal or otherwise but you could always have some sort of question at the start to help the maids figure it out?

>> No.8941257

>>8940638
Fuck this is cute...

>> No.8941354
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>>8936100
she reminds me a bit of the uncanny valley

>> No.8941796

>>8940469
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUO4loCadN8&feature=youtu.be
They just posted this

>> No.8941802

>>8941796
April fools.

>> No.8941831

Seeing all these shitty maid cafes makes me want to try my own

>> No.8941834

>>8941831
yours will be just as shitty

>> No.8942129

>>8941225

Well a victorian tea room is a good startig point. Problem is find people with disposable income and the average weeb spends as little on food and drink.

>> No.8942258

>>8940656
I'll have you know that butler shen is one spicy lad

>> No.8942318

What would people think if a cafe had all the maids wearing matching uniforms, but each had a different colour? For example, some of the bodyline outfits have almost 10 colours.

Or would that be way too busy and mismatched?

>> No.8942345

>>8942318
too busy in my opinion. if you want to assign each girl a color, make each one only have certain colored accessories

>> No.8942591

>>8936093
>the girls who sign up are always unwashed in shitty party city maid uniforms
No, the ones who sign up think they cute when they're pudgy and overweight. Actually, it's not the ones who sign up - it's the ones who get picked.
The people who select the girls for these things need glasses and not hire when stoned.

>> No.8942618

>>8939507
Other than the one with their braids and glasses the others are very fake with the smile and service routine. Food wasn't that good and it was organized poorly imo. I guess Im just use to how much more organized Peko is in the CF area

>> No.8942908

>>8936517
what a disaster

>> No.8942915
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8942915

>>8942318
sounds like goshiusa

>> No.8942926

>>8942318
Generally only lead maids should have different uniforms, sort of like store or shift managers having different coloured shirts etc. at a restaurant. Lead maids having colour variations of the standard uniforms is a nice way to show difference :3

>> No.8943044

>>8942908
Sad part is they are probably the best maid cafe in the state at this point ._.

>> No.8943054

>>8943044
Disorganization aside I'd argue that the other group is better desu

>> No.8943065

>>8943054
Cafe Kira Hoshi? No man I saw them at Mizu and at Chibi Pa so I can say that Peko is definitely better which isn't saying much. the girls are more coordinated during the dances and attentive during playing games with the guests. Hoshi isn't bad but they need some improving still

>> No.8943078

>>8943065
Mizu is a different cafe?
And yeah I think kira is more inclusive though

>> No.8943406

>>8940514
I heard that NY cafe was more like just a deli with people dressed as maids, and general anime crap up on the wall. Not really the maid experience.

Did anyone have any experience with the maid cafe opened in Toronto for a few years around 2007?

I wonder if something like this place would work better: http://www.acasius.jp/cast/

It's basically a maid cafe, except it pretends to be a boarding school, with the wait staff playing the students. But the uniforms are very maid-like, so it's not just some seifuku-fest. It also serves alcohol.

Maybe something like that might work--a more thought-out story, that's not quite "maids," with more of a coherent theme; like a scaled-down Medieval Times.

>> No.8943577

>>8943078
It's called Cafe Mizu Mizu but it was a good chunk of Hoshi there. Its why I tried a second time at Chibi Pa so I didn't come to conclusions on one smaller con. They need improvement but at least their not the terrible cafe that was at Omni, May Mays Maid Cafe

>> No.8943639

>>8943406
Yep it sort of was like that. It was too short staffed to be able to make the food, drinks and do the service thing at the same time.

>> No.8943646

anyone else notice that maid cafe picks girls pretty much 1 of 3 ways?

>1. the maids know someone

you can tell if a maid cafe is like this because usually the girls are well… not that cute or well put together.

>2. the maids are hired based on someone’s personal preference for girls.

you can tell if a maid cafe is like this because all the girls will have similar features, like brown hair with blue eyes, or all Asian girls.

>3. the maids are hired based on their actual qualifications

you can tell if its like this because the maids are usually cute, energetic, and there is actual diversity


gettin real tired of 1 and 2 being the norm


>tfw i just want to volunteer at a maid cafe but am brown

>> No.8943670

>>8937419
Hitomi is the president of @home, mostly manages and goes to oversees events but she will work there every once in a while

>> No.8943685
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8943685

@home cafe is so polished,and there is a level of care and detail they put forward so I can see why they're the best. Their new uniforms are so freaking pretty and the staff wear their own accessories but still look uniform. I've been to Maidreaming as well since they are the second most popular, but the staff there are more lax, they're less formal, they're not as dedicated with their performing and they are less strict about looks as well, I've seen maids with deep voices and unfortunate looks at Maidreaming and while it's more realistic I think if you're going for full fake fantasy @home is the maid cafe to go to. I think the problem with overseas cafes is that they're too lax, they clearly don't tailor the maid uniforms to look good on the maids, they don't have restrictions, so like if a girl is ugly or unkempt she will be picked simply because she volunteered. I personally feel all maids should be of a similar size and height, so anyone over a certain weight or certain height should not be hired. Obese maids should not be hired either and if a maid is chubby or overweight she will need to have her costume tailored to her so that she doesn't stick out like a sore thumb. A lot of these cafes just don't give a fuck, they have no sense of polish or professionalism so they're let any busted looking weeb put on a dress and play maid for a day.

>> No.8943720
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8943720

Seriously, they got to at least put a weight limit on some of these. The last con cafe I went to, our maid was at least 250lbs. I'm not even saying this to be rude, but it's really immersion breaking and I feel like it deters a lot of girls from wanting to try it out.

Like they could even divide it up into like having a regular cafe and BBW/Marshmellow cafe.

>> No.8943725

>>8943720
Hmm...I actually think a marshmellow girls maid cafe would be kinda cute. Adorable pudgy maids with the rest of a nice put together cafe? Not too bad.

I don't mean hambeasts though...people carry weight different so I couldn't see a weight cut off working but if it was on a case by case basis it could work (as much as a realistic good themed cafe would work).

>> No.8943732

>>8943720
>fat coworking maids
>deters a lot of girls from wanting to try it out

If they're that cowardly then they probably wouldn't make it as maids anyway considering how many obeast neckbeards they'd have to cater to and be molested by.

>> No.8943735
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8943735

>>8943720
>Marshmallow cafe

I lold.

>> No.8943738

>>8943732
Maybe they just don't want to be around some group of hambeasts in a culture filled with Tumblrinas who's only goal in life is to make normal, healthy girls feel bad about not being as fat and glutenous as themselves.

>> No.8943741

>>8943738
>group of hambeasts
So why are they trying to apply to a maid cafe where their clientele will be specifically overweight, socially awkward people?
>tumblrinas
Wouldn't a true tumblrina complain about how maid cafes objectify women, no? Again kind of a bullshit claim.
>who's only goal in life is to make normal, healthy girls feel bad about not being as fat and glutenous as themselves
Lol oh honny, just apply to the maid cafe. Fat girls who like kawaii things and anime typically aren't nasty like the fat girls who bullied you in high school.

>> No.8943753
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>>8943738
You seem like the type of snowflake who would get extremely flustered if someone found a fat maid more attractive than you.

>> No.8943763
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8943763

Good example of a cute chubby maid

>> No.8943772
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>>8937093
>>8938532
bleh

>> No.8943778
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8943778

I love following everything this guy does, but he finally went to a maid cafe!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWV4EaKsNUw

>> No.8943783

>>8943763

> dirty sneakers
> messy pigtails

Almost, anon.

>> No.8943784

>>8943646

Go for it, anon. I believe in you!

>> No.8943807
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8943807

>>8943784
last I was looking into was anime expo.. even white girls have no chance. they choose their token non Asian and they're like "we're good"

i'm extremely disappointed, I expected more from anime expo honestly.
(attached photo is from their maid cafe after dark thing)

>> No.8944127

>>8943720
I think chubby maids would be kinda cute, and to have one or two at a normal cafe wouldn't be too weird
But it's very important that they first of all are cute. Like more importantly than normal.
And secondly, that they're not too big.
Like a bit of chub can be cute, but nobody is gonna like being served by a hamplanet.
Lastly I think it's important that it's a cafe where everyone has the same outfit, otherwise it'll look even weirder that one of them is chubby

>> No.8944328

>>8943753
>fatties think this

>> No.8944333

>>8944328
>jelly skelly can't handle the truth

>> No.8944344

>>8943720
If they're a qt I don't mind a chubby maid or two

>> No.8944561

>>8937093
holy shit this dude on the left is easily a 8/10

>> No.8944569

>>8943807
What the...is the "Daytime Maid Cafe" less BDSMish?

>> No.8944572

>>8944561
in what world?

>> No.8944668

>>8944569
the daytime maid cafe they were just in regular maid uniforms.
and I'm not seeing anything BDSM-y about it anon. just the fact that some of the girls are in lingerie which for a maid cafe "after dark" that's what I'd expect.

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8944798

>>8943763
yeah no

>> No.8944836
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8944836

>>8936239
I found a cafe like that in Tokyo, Japan!
https://twitter.com/wonderparlour
I would love to go there...

>> No.8944959

>>8943763
Terrible example.
>Greasy skin
>Sneakers
>Shittily made maid outfit

>> No.8945059

>>8944798
the logo looks like a butthole

>> No.8945068

>>8943406
I went to the one in NY a couple times cause I worked in the area and it was pretty nice. But man there was always this one asshole in the back by the animu shit screaming about memes.
How can you enjoy an environment when there is none. Wish they had told him to scram.

>> No.8945079

>>8945068
That's.. thats a common occurrence, unfortunately. There are a handful of creepers, some turned into stalkers, as well as creeps that are there once or twice and are gone for good. Do you remember what he looks like?

>> No.8945104

Aside from the ones in NYC and Toronto, wasn't there one in LA for a while? Were they all a mess like the con ones?

>> No.8945146
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8945146

>>8945104
there was one in LA a while back that even had an event held by gwen stefani there. Even that one failed despite celebrity endorsement.(pic related)
https://lovemomiji.com/blog/11/06/10/Momiji_Doll_Gwen_Stefani_charity_evening

>> No.8945163

>>8945146
even Kyary visited the cafe.
http://www.laweekly.com/arts/royal-t-to-close-top-5-memorable-events-at-the-culver-city-maid-cafe-2371395
man how did this close, you'd think more people would hop on it

>> No.8945284

>>8944344
>fat
>cute

pick one you faglord. being fat is the complete opposite of cute, and takes a shit on the idea of being a maid

>> No.8945301

>>8945079
Care to share any stories or dramu? Or just general things about the maids.

>> No.8945443

>>8944836
>GLASSES MAID

MY LADYBONER IS STRONG

>> No.8945462

>>8944798
Thats fucking adorable. I personally like girls with more weight. Not obese and super fucking heaby, but like 10-15lbs or even 20lbs over. I think its cute. >>8943763 This, however, eh... I'm very glad she ironed her outfit. Even skinnier girls half the time don't. She'd definitely benefit from a wig though and probably some cute red heels maybe?

>CAPTCHA Food
>Only had two Hawaiian rolls, orange juice, and two string cheese sticks for dinner
>I'm so hungry

>> No.8945466

>>8945163
The space looks like it might have been way too big for continuous customers to be able to pay for the building, food, licenses, water, electricity, employees.. Etc. It was in LA. That place isn't cheap. Even in a renovated warehouse.

>> No.8945516

>>8945284
Gosh, you're upset.
>"Stop liking what I don't like faggot, STOP IT!"

>> No.8945731

>>8940638

Purblind works for a maid cafe?

>> No.8946182

>>8945284
I said chubby, not a fucking hamplanet
There's a difference

>> No.8946325

>>8945301
Yeah sure. Tho there is a bunch, there's creeper stories, stalker stories, general weirdos, nice customers, management and general cafe drama etc ..
Do you have any specific questions

>> No.8946380

>>8945146

IT takes more than Gwen to keep something going

>> No.8946424

>>8937054
that girl on the right has irons in the fire.

>> No.8946432

>>8943646
>but I'm brown

Sweatingman.png

>> No.8946453
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8946453

>>8946182
No. There's really not.

I know you "small fat" girls like to think you are more attractive than a your higher level counter parts, but guys don't work that way.

You either are attractive, or you aren't.

>> No.8946455

>>8945284
Thick girls are better for plowing. Bony no booty bitches cant take dick for shit and theres nothing to hold on to when youre wrecking them dog style, but you wouldnt know that would you virgin kun? Though I admit skinny girls are better on top, but half the time theyre also too lazy to be on top anyway so that voids it.

>> No.8946476

>>8946453
>than a your higher level counter parts
Holy shit just say "thin girls" you autistic cockgobbler! Lmaooo.
Also not always. A pretty-faced ham is always going to look better than a skelly uggo.

>> No.8946486
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8946486

>>8946476

Any ham tastes good if it is dressed with the proper seasonings.

>> No.8946734
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8946734

I have a weeb fantasy to join a maid cafe atleast once but sadly this is the only cafe in my area. I think it could be really fun but also embarrassing.

>> No.8946830

Protip to people browsing who are actually part of a maid cafe. If you have facebook pages for the different maids as well as a facebook for the cafe, make sure to at least post with good grammar. It looks so unprofessional otherwise, really bugs me because when I was part of a maid cafe some of the girls were making the collective look bad with this. Maid cafes aren't the most reputable of businesses anyway, lets not make each other look worse lol.

>> No.8946934
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8946934

>>8946476
Actually what I meant by "higher level" was hambeast.

You know. Because they are bigger, but the two of you are still within the same class?

What I meant was that it doesn't matter if you "chubby" or a land-whale in a dress, because guys aren't going to be getting an erection around you either way.

And before some whiteknight gets on here to say some stupid shit like

>speak for yourself madam, I myself find far more attracted to ladies with more cushin for the pushin if you pardon my french, milady

look in yourself in the mirror, and honestly, really truly objectively ask yourself, if you could get a normal weight girl, even if you wanted to.

People aren't that biologically diverse, and people's standards for attraction are relatively static.

>pic unrelated, but this is what healthy weight looks like

>> No.8946943

>>8946934
I...what? You can't even see her body lmao.

Everyone has a different healthy BMI for their body. Some people are genuinely just built bigger than others, you can't say 'this is a healthy weight cause I said so'.
Genetics, race, living conditions, it all plays a part.

And if someone says they're attracted to chubbier girls/guys you can't say 'no you arent'. That's like saying 'you can't like chocolate ice cream because I prefer vanilla!'. Doesn't make any sense.

Obesity isn't attractive, no. But being a naturally chubbier/stockier build (if it's healthy for your body) can be.

>> No.8946948
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>>8946455
>virgins actually believe this

Yeah, speaking as someone who used to be a neckbearded NEET of a loser who had two fat girlfriends, then got my shit together, and gone to 3 fit girlfriends...

You are absolutely full of shit. Fucking fat girls is literally like trying to fuck your couch. It's uncomfortable as fuck, there's all sorts of weird noises and smells and you can't do even a FRACTION of the shit with say, a girl you can actually pick up without risk of throwing out your back.

Legit, I used to believe one of those guys who though sex wasn't that great. Yeah, that's because I never actually had it with a girl that didn't have unnecessary dangle bits everywhere.

Thin girls absolutely btfo any fat girl at sex. And anyone who says otherwise is a fucking liar.

>> No.8946955

>>8946453
Imagine being this buttblasted over the fact someone doesn't share your preferences in what is/isn't sexually attractive

>> No.8947138

>>8946325
Mostly interested in if there was drama between meidos/general cafe drama and creeper stories.

>> No.8947214

>>8945731

It was probsbly an event at some con. Nobody works for those in NA

>> No.8947215

>>8946943
Yeah, this is what I think. It's not about some universal objective standard; it's about "what looks right for you." Out-of-shape people, people who dress poorly, people with bad hygiene, people with poor posture, and people with crap personalities are not attractive, regardless of size. Work with what you have. Be fit, dress well, take care of yourself, and smile, and you're likely to be seen as attractive by most; and even really good looking by those who like your type.

>> No.8947232
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8947232

It's just not going to work outside of Japan, even in cons, since the people that run them just want to cosplay or fetishize it.

>> No.8947235

>>8947138
There's always creepers at cafes, i work at an event one every year and we've had issues with upskirters before.

>> No.8947239

>>8946934
>guys aren't going to be getting an erection for fatter girls
>people aren't biologically diverse
>standards of attraction are static

You honestly believe this and it's kind of...sheltered. But in an adorable way. Kind of like how five year olds might think the sky is made of blue jello or animals talk in a human language when nobody is watching.

>> No.8947245

>>8946943
>But being a naturally chubbier/stockier build (if it's healthy for your body) can be.

There's no such thing. No one is "naturally" chubby. The fat comes from somewhere, it doesn't materialize out of thin air. If you eat in excess of what your body uses, you gain fat.

I guarantee, 100%, full money back, that anyone who is "chubby" has a higher than normal bf%

And no, fit people don't look anything like chubby, so there's no mistaking there.

>> No.8947247

>>8946455
You sound like a female obeast. Go post your disgusting fatfuck pics on tubblr, no one needs your shit here.

>> No.8947250

I found that maid cafes in Japan were treated with a fair bit of disdain. People ignored the sprukers on the sidewalk in almost the same way that you would a homeless beggar.

>> No.8947251

>>8945104
>>8945146
It was more of an art gallery than a maid cafe, to be honest.

>> No.8947254

>>8947245
>And no, fit people don't look anything like chubby

/fit/ called, they said you're full of shit.
Plenty of chubby dudes have muscle while they have a high bodyfat %. Same with women.
I knew chubby girls in high school who could outrun and were fitter than thinner girls, they just had a higher bodyfat %.

Gentle reminder that you must be 18+ to post on 4chan.

>> No.8947259

>>8947239
this. I prefer thicker girls and guys. not obese, but a little chub looks cute in my opinion. i can respect that other people dont feel the same though, obviously that other anon thinks their preferences should be everyone's preferences.
>next week on /cgl/, someone prefers blonde hair and yells at anyone who likes brown hair

>> No.8947262

>>8947254
same, i have multiple friends bigger and fitter than me.
There's being obese, and there's being naturally big. Some people can't comprehend the difference.

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>>8943577
>May Mays Maid Cafe

Curiosity killed the cat on this one, anon. Is this cafe a one maid show? Cause this is the only "maid" I see on their Facebook page.

>> No.8947373

>>8947239
I found it funny, it's like this person never heard of fetishes either

>> No.8947420

>>8947250
People ignore everyone on the sidewalk handing/calling out shit like they're beggers. Kek
That is the norm in Japan, America, Australia...every place. Most people aren't going to stop - there are some that do for various reasons (person is cute, person is saying something interesting, walking person is being polite...) - but its definately not just with maid cafes.

Strange that you would be surprised by that fact.

>> No.8947451

If I were to start up a maid cafe for cons and ect what are some things that are crucial for an enjoyable experience? Proper waitering knowledge, cute and clean appearance ect.. Basically what's your definition of a good maid cafe?

>> No.8948143

>>8947451
make sure they're not just in it for a free badge to the con
ability to learn dances in a reasonable amount of time
ability to dance
not be shy to do things that will make the customer embarrassed/uncomfortable(in a good way) ex. when maids do power ups or are genuinely sweet and give complements

Shit vid but makes my point
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ulZgIDLnOxw

>> No.8948153

>>8948143
That was kinda cute.

>> No.8948155

>>8937054
Of course there will be black maids in philladelphia.

Ots a black city and being a cafe maid is a low pay minimum wage job.

It statistacly makes sense.

>> No.8948157

I don't see the point in comparing con Cafes and Con Maids to established brick and motor Cafes and Maids in Japan. Con Cafes literally work 3-4 days at a time and probably only 2-4 times an entire year to an audience that sometimes doesnt even know what a Maid Cafe is. Comparing that to an actual cafe that runs throughout the year isn't really fair game

>> No.8948160

>>8948157

>motar*

>> No.8948176

>>8947341
The web designer for this cafe is Roy Harms, the pedophile. Go back far enough on their FB page and you'll see his name mentioned.

>> No.8948234

>>8948157
This, honestly. It's also so incredibly difficult to get a group of people together enough times to be able to plan/practice an event of that magnitude. Plus, most of the times, con cafes don't even pay their maids.

>> No.8948340

>>8948234
Exactly. Most Maids work for the fun of it, plus the bonus of free entry to the con and a MAYBE a shared hotel and MAYBE food. And tips from customers. Some maids are just hired a month or even a week before due to necessity. I've worked in a few Cafes and its a pain in the ass to get people to do their fucking job. So sorry if our hair and outfit is a bit fucked up, or we're not as peppy. We were probably up until 12a.m. when they kick us out of the hotel decorating the damn panel room. Or worrying if we have enough food to last us the weekend.

>> No.8948351

>>8947245
>And no, fit people don't look anything like chubby,

http://www.ironmind.com:8080/ironmind/opencms/Articles/2010/Mar/Olympic_Medalist_Agata_Wrobel_Coming_Back_to_Weightlifting.html

>> No.8948363

>>8948351
That's a PL you fucking retard.

Let's see her do a mile run.

>> No.8948389

>>8948340
Okay, but you chose that. Is it that difficult to fix your hair and makeup and act smiley a few times out of the year? I've worked maid cafes too, dealt with hotels, bitchy head maids,the con itself, but at the end of the day, I signed up for it. So I am going to at least present myself as best I can. Honestly, my customers probably do not care how long I stayed up or any other behind the scene spiel, at the end of the day, they paid for a service. I don't know how many of these maids have actual jobs and careers, but decent work ethic and customer service should transfer to even that as well.

>> No.8948417

I once tried to work at a cosplay maid cafe. Contacted them and asked and they said that not only would you not get paid for anything and all tips would go back to the 'company because they paid for the ingredients and everything', but you would have to buy your own hotel room and ticket to the con. I just laughed them in the face and left.
Why would I work without getting paid if I have to pay for the ticket myself, then I could just go as a normal visitor!

>> No.8948431

>>8948389
Yeah but regarding this thread with the nit-pickiness of shoes and stockings and hair in con cafes...like whut.

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>>8940469
Good lord, what the hell happened to the colors in that photo?

>> No.8948452

>>8947232
Fuck, far left.
The face is not even that bad for crossplay, why the fuck would you not even put in the effort shave your fucking arms? Ticks me off.

>> No.8948459

>>8948441
It's called stage lighting.

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>>8948441
Your edit made it a whole lot worse.

>> No.8948480

>>8948431
Unfortunately with con cafes, it's generally filled by volunteers. Our con maid cafe has fairly strict application and interview processes, and we haven't been afraid to remove people causing trouble in the past. But even then, as its unpaid work, you can try your hardest but you can't force maids/butlers to look impeccable. You can regulate uniform, but if someone refuses to wear a wig or do their makeup it's either let them be or let them go.

And as its voluntary, in regards to forcing people to shave their arms etc.- you can ask, but in some cases it's quite awkward and personal if they're not real employees and only people you work with for a few days a year. And constantly kicking people out is bad for business as you lose serving numbers, members for dances/performances and have to rework whole aspects of the cafe.

>> No.8948872

>>8948431
>>8948480
OK but isn't the look of the maid about 95% of what this is about? In fact, isn't a big part of why people would even want to volunteer to do this? It's like, not taking it seriously is just like a sloppy cosplay. Why do it if you're not going to do it right? I'd think people would *want* to have a nice, uniform look that's completely on point. Who wants to look like a slob?

>> No.8948943

>>8948176
But is it for their wix site? If so, that's fucking atrocious. If it's for their section on the Omni-Expo website, that should be a given as he's still behind the scenes of Omni which I believe was pointed out in one of the Florida threads before it got deleted.

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>>8948363
>It doesn't count as fit unless if complies with my personal standards of physical ability, even if it means discounting an entire category of the Olympics.

Christ, buddy.

>> No.8949474 [DELETED] 

>>8940646
I had a look at their Facebook page - it seems they have different uniforms for different ranked maids. I see what they're doing since @home and maidreamin do the same thing, but they have hundreds of maids while Maids of England barely have 10, so it just looks messy.

Also they have loads of shitty mic issues in their performances. Guess you can't really blame them for that though, since it's the con's fault. Singing is meh, though there's one chick with a really nice voice.

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>>8940646
I had a look at their Facebook page - it seems they have different uniforms for different ranked maids. I see what they're doing since @home and maidreamin do the same thing, but they have hundreds of maids while Maids of England barely have 10, so it just looks messy.

Also they have loads of shitty mic issues in their performances. Guess you can't really blame them for that though, since it's the con's fault. Singing is meh, though there's one chick with a really nice voice.

>> No.8949533

>>8940638
How do you feel about black girls wearing a maid uniform? Is it "politically correct"?

>> No.8949593

>>8949533
are you retarded
Why would black girls wearing maid outfit be politically correct. Since you like baiting, wouldn't that be "politically incorrect", do you just not know what the word means and just throw it around for no reason?

Every maid, no matter what size or race has the potential to be either good or bad, some people just need to work harder than others.

>>8949482
this is the same shit @home does but @home looks polished and uniform and these girls look like they couldn't decide on what ebay store to buy their outfit from. Middle costume is the best, but maids should not be allowed to wear colored wigs unless everyone is going to wear a fucking colored wig, other wise stick to natural colors.
Girl on the right could be better if her outfit actually fit, her shoes weren't ugly and she wore her petticoat correctly.
The other one looks like a hotel cleaner, pull the fucking petticoat up and tell her to stop wearing the fucking combat boots.

>> No.8949839

>>8949482
Why do these people not know how to wear petticoats? Many other problems but this one bothers me the most.

>> No.8949842

>>8949839
>>8948470
ugh and that girl in the purple too always has her petti so fucking low it bothers me so much.

>> No.8950853

>>8944959
Not to mention, she's dark-skinned.

>> No.8950854

>>8943763
She's not Eurasian or Asian, so she fails automatically for being an example of a "cute," chubby maid.

>> No.8950859

>>8936517
it's so weebish though, what's with all the random accessories? what's with the fucking animal ears, and the cat tights and random hair accessories. in japan maids match and are uniform. why do weebs think anything "kawaii" can just be slapped together and look good, it's so stupid, like cat tights with seifukus and a magical girl cosplay wig while carrying a brand lolita purse. sure they're cute seperated but you look stupid as hell wearing it all together

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>>8950854
>>8950853
someone pls tell me these are jokes because im not sure

>> No.8951479

>>8936410
Maid cafes in Japan seem to stick to black and white, there is no variation in the uniforms, and they use thicker cottons and scallop accents.

U.S. cafes tend to use a mix of black, white, and pastel, they have a knack of using cheap shiny fabrics and oversized itchy lace, and yes, they tend to focus on adding unique accents to costumes like striped tights or cat eats and tiny hair buns.

I've noticed the U.S. outfits are lacking.

>> No.8951517

>>8951216
Are you new?

>> No.8952911

>>8948943
Yes, he handles their website needs. It's also why the group is strictly 18+ now.

>> No.8952968

So Uncle Tetsu's very recently opened a maid cafe in Toronto....Any gulls from the six been there yet?
Are the maids any cute? How long is the wait to get seated?

>> No.8955410
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More maid stories.

>> No.8955437

>>8937479
purple with glasses one is so cute

>> No.8955539

>>8946486
>>8946486
have you ever had expensive ham?

>> No.8955844
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8955844

Here's the maid cafe crew in my area. They do all the local cons, and I know about them, but I've never actually attended any of their events.

>> No.8955932

>>8942258
Okay Shen.

>> No.8955950

>>8946948
Go back for /fit/ or wherever it is that you came from, dillweed.

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>>8944836
Ah, those uniforms are so nice. Added this to my places to check out in Tokyo list.

>> No.8955971

>>8944836

Their food is good too

>> No.8956052
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I went to a maid cafe alone one time at an anime convention just for the hell of it since I had some time to kill. Important thing to note is that this was during a very sad period in my life.

Paid like 10 bucks for a can of coke and a few pieces of lukewarm chicken on a bed of lettuce. The maid I was with was really nice and we had a common interest in Love Live but I felt like I was boring her to death. Not her fault, I was in full on depression mode at the time so I wasn't a very good conversation partner.

Don't know if I'll ever do it again. Though to be fair the other meals looked way nicer than what I got.

>> No.8956067
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Doing an alternative theme from time to time can be nice too, provided that the theme is cohesive enough (& you already handle the default maid theme fine as a whole group)

Pic related, I think school themes are quite adorable.

>> No.8956128

>>8956052
Venues often place restrictions on food service. Either you purchase through them, or pay some extra fees and such that it becomes too troublesome, or what's allowed is nearly limited to prepackaged items. May be be for safety concerns, or to monopolize sales, or the latter under the guise of the former.

>> No.8956190

>>8955844
Ugh. Unless you have naturally cute hair, a wig is really beneficial.
And don't join a maid cafe if you look like you're 40 it's just embarrasaing

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>>8952911
I'm pretty sure anyone working with a convention has an 18+ rule so that the con heads don't feel like pedophiles and most likely for some other legal reasons. Maid cafes that have 16+ as a requirement is only because it's probably being run by a 16 year old or it's separated from the convention and/or they wanted their underage friend in their cafe.

>> No.8956303

>>8949593
lol if you actually knew anything about the cafe you'd realise each maid has a personality, hence the combat boots, she's the tough character or whatever. And @home show their pettis all the time, I wouldn't wear it that way but its not "wearing the petti wrong"

>> No.8956763
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Florida Anime Experience just posted this image of their maid cafe this year.

It really isn't pretty, the angle of the shot makes them all look really manly, bottom right especially.

The con is literally in 11 days, it looks like Croom just shoved some girls together in a poorly angled photo and posted it as advertisement. The uniforms are also all over the place, jesus.

>> No.8957656
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Any reviews of Fleur Royale Cafe in the Midwest?

>> No.8957689

>>8956303
@home cafe shows their pettis because they wear them correctly and the skirt is short enough for them to show underneath, petticoats are supposed to go on the waist not droop underneath and cause the skirt shape to flatten. ALSO @home's petticoats have hearts and designs sewn into them, so they're clearly supposed to be seen, so don't use that shit excuse

>> No.8957692

>>8957656
Cutest con maid cafe I've seen out of this whole thread (by volume)

>> No.8957697

>>8938466
That's... Edmonton?
I think I recognize some people there.

>> No.8957699
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>>8951479
Not true, top 2 most famous maid cafes in Japan do not use black and white uniforms, @home is brown and white and maids are allowed to accessorize however they like and Maidreamin usually has Navy blue and white uniforms with pink accents.

>> No.8957728

>>8957699
what an unflattering photo of that maid behind the center one...

>> No.8957732

>>8936096
$4.35 for a slice of cheesecake?

>> No.8957751

>>8957728
steve buscemi

>> No.8957752

If you're familiar with the restaurant industry or hell, if you've watched a few episodes of Kitchen Nightmares or similar shows, you should know that a lot of new restaurants end up going under (something like 60% will fail in their first year, 80% will fail in less than five years). I can only imagine how bad it is for a niche category like maid cafes.

I kinda want to see Gordan Ramsay show up at a failing maid cafe and try to turn it around now.

>> No.8957754

>>8957751
dont even joke you don't understand how much i would pay to have muh husbando serve me in a maid cafe

>> No.8957932
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The Netherlands has quite a few cute maid cafes!

>> No.8957934
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>>8957932

>> No.8957941
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>>8957932

>> No.8958426

>>8957934
No. Just no. Wigs got to go.

>> No.8958439

>>8957728
it's a screenshot so it's probably just a really unflattering shot, if you watch videos of them, all of them are pretty cute

>> No.8959222
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8959222

More U.S. cafes

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>>8959222

>> No.8959227
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>>8959226

>> No.8959245

>>8949533
It's fine, they volunteer and want to do it. It's their choice.

>> No.8959278

>>8959222
WHERE DID HER LEGS GO

>> No.8959290

>>8959278
They left along with her will.

>> No.8959296

>>8959278
a new subspecies of hoverloli

>> No.8959325

>>8952968
Going there tomorrow with a friend since I'm done exams, will report findings

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I've seen Maids of England perform at cons before and they are grossly uncoordinated, also at least one of the members is seriously chubby and doesn't look good in the maid outfits at all or can sing for shit

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They also have abipop the weeb bitch from hell

>> No.8959936

>>8959227
Uniforms all over the place and jfc the butler

>> No.8959987
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Isn't Hooters the western version of maid cafes?

>> No.8960085

>>8959987
Basically, just focused on cute vs sexy. And for some reason cafes are afraid to shun away ugly or unfit girls as opposed to breastaurants that acknowledge they focus on looks.

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>>8959278
Hoverloli is real gulls

>> No.8960185

>>8959222
Is this the most popular U.S. cafe?

>> No.8960203

>>8960122
May all praise be to Glorious Hoverloli

>> No.8960220

>>8957697
It is definitely Edmonton.

>> No.8960224

>>8957656
There are reviews on their fb. I've heard of decent things about them, but never gone when I've gone to AMW.

I have a friend in that group, so maybe if my finances go well between now and then (and if we get a lolita guest again), I might go and finally see for myself.

Said friend shared a story about how she got decent tips for putting up with gross neckbeards, but how it got stolen by the maid managers before the weekend ended. I wonder how often this sort of thing happens in maid cafes.

>> No.8960244

>>8960085
>And for some reason cafes are afraid to shun away ugly or unfit girls as opposed to breastaurants that acknowledge they focus on looks.

I think it's because places like hooter's are way more popular, which means they have more applicants who fit the look they want. Maid cafes, especially con volunteer ones, aren't going to get that many applications and the type of people who even know what a maid cafe is aren't typically the most fit.

>> No.8960959

>>8959222
WHERE DO I GET THAT UNIFORM
sweet baby jesus I HAVE A MIGHTY NEED

>> No.8961175

>>8960959
bodyline

>> No.8961178

Well, I'm going to tell my experience as a maid in a local con. (at first, sorry because english is not my mother tongue)

I've been 2 years in a Maid Cafe, I got into that through a friend, I was so happy. But the first year it wasn't a mess at all, only the most of the maids were kids/fatty/ugly as hell.
I don't remember being so stressed as those days. Most of them didn't know how to cook, how to be cute and bosses didn't know what to buy, so at the end, I've made all of the hard work. I couldn't be so cute I would like to be, cooking is so frustrating with wig, lens and a heavy outfit, but customers went out happy because there was delicious food (at least).

The second year it was a huge mess, bosses without a fucking idea how to run a Maid Cafe, hiring fool cute girls, less money to buy things, fatty with ugly face maid, there were more cute maids but they didn't know how to cook neither! And the most of time with a face of being in a funeral.

Making a Maid Cafe is hard, I would like to make it with cute girls, but it's hard to find cute + cooking knowledge + polish girls.

>> No.8961712

>>8950859
nah in japan they have similar uniforms but every maid has their own 'quirk' that makes them unique, like a special item or bow or headpiece

this is just from my own experience with maid cafes in japan though, I went to @home and maiden dreaming

>> No.8961747

>>8940478
>Daily Mail articles accusing them of being softcore bdsm fetish cafes.

So ... free advertising, then?

>> No.8961946

>>8960959
>>8961175

I believe they made their own uniforms but you can find similar maid uniforms with a heart cut out through Bodyline and/or similar websites.

>> No.8962502

>>8960220
Niiice. I still would've went to one. Just to see.