/ouG/ - Boystyle General: Betrayal edition

[Anonymous No.8837877]

Last thread at autosage: >>8761165

This thread is for ouji and aristocrat (aka "boystyle") discussion. Boystyle refers to the masculine counterparts of lolita and aristocrat fashions. There is a lot of overlap between these styles, and different people use different terms to describe them. So, consider this a thread for those whose style is on the right half of Buttcape's Lolita Family Triangle: http://www.kawacura.com/moripress/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/0dmmLH6-350x350.jpg

You can also discuss EGA in the EGA thread: >>8729403

>Shopping spreadsheet
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1j7sg2_7CvXUeIgZGGSLvJ9lUUuSVXhW8FlWWFwiv1Yk/edit?usp=docslist_api

>Blogs for current boystyle releases, news, and info
palaceofprinces.tumblr.com
ouji-armoire.tumblr.com
buttcape[.]blogspot[.]com (Currently mostly offline but we hope for a return soon)

Google your questions before asking them here.

Read the whole thread before asking questions here.

OC and selfposts encouraged! Randpm picspam discouraged; we've seen most of it by now.

DISCUSSION TOPIC: The Gothic and Lolita Bible just informed Mana they will no longer be featuring him modeling Moitie. Details in next post.

[Anonymous No.8837880]

from the Lolita thread:

>>8837596
>29 January 2016 @ 10:52 pm

>† Information about the Gothic&Lolita Bible

>I think everyone always looks forward to my photos wearing Moi-meme-Moitie in the Gothic&Lolita Bible, but this time I got this from the person in charge

>"Every issue we've always requested Mana-Sama x Moi-meme-Moitie pages, but according to the publisher it has been decided that from next issue on those plans will come to an end…"

>Thats what they said.

>I have always taken part in the Gothic&Lolita Bible since the very first issue over a span of some 10 years, so as you might expect I'm a little sad.

>Mana

[Anonymous No.8837886]

>repost from an anon in a previous thread re: buttcape's ouji guide being offline

I did some poking on archive.org and you can find copies of buttcape's posts there:

http://web.archive.org/web/20150322060355/http://buttcape.blogspot.com/2013/01/an-ouji-overview-introduction.html
http://web.archive.org/web/20150602045148/http://buttcape.blogspot.com/2013/01/an-ouji-overview-part-1-terminology.html
http://web.archive.org/web/20150602052909/http://buttcape.blogspot.com/2013/01/an-ouji-overview-part-2-basic-anatomy.html
http://web.archive.org/web/20150602013630/http://buttcape.blogspot.com/2013/01/an-ouji-overview-part-3-where-to-buy.html
http://web.archive.org/web/20150323213231/http://buttcape.blogspot.com/2013/06/an-ouji-overview-part-4-headwear.html
http://web.archive.org/web/20150321235421/http://buttcape.blogspot.com/2013/11/an-ouji-overview-part-5-tops-and.html
http://web.archive.org/web/20150322000313/http://buttcape.blogspot.com/2015/01/an-ouji-overview-part-6-pants.html

And from her twitter: "Taking a break from online activity. I took down my blogs, but I will still be using Twitter and Instagram."

[Anonymous No.8839303]

>>8837877
>The Gothic and Lolita Bible just informed Mana they will no longer be featuring him modeling Moitie.
i have noticed a lack of male models in the GLB in general. research may show that men wear the styles and brands featured, but it seems rarer to see one actually in the GLB. can anyone corroborate this?

[Anonymous No.8840372]

http://www.elegyclothing.com/product/edwin-blouse-white/

this is a men's blouse from Elegy, a fairly well-respected US-based indie brand. the description says it may look odd in the photo because it is on a woman's dress form. you can order it up to a size 48inch chest, or request a custom size.

throwing this out there for bigger boystylers who want more than just F+F

[Anonymous No.8840374]

>>8840372
pic related looks better (imo) and goes up to around a 50" chest. available in 3 basic colors.

http://www.elegyclothing.com/product/pin-tucked-high-collar-button-up/

both blouses are around $70 USD.

[Anonymous No.8840498]

continuing from >>8840473

there has been some discussion on aristocrat versus ouji, and what divides them. we are referencing Buttcape's triangle, a helpful tool but one that i do think is biased toward Western interpretations and tradition.

my thought is this: i see aristocrat and ouji as two different but related fashions, similar to the way goth and lolita are related. i think that some coords can count as either, depending on context, but that the core aesthetic of EGA is absent from most western Aristocrats; in fact, many western aristos wear what would be called "ouji" in Japan. their style is a bit too simple, and not decadent enough; it really seems like conservative ouji with long pants.

an exception is mr_mizer, who tends to stay within EGA strictly, if conservatively. a coord like pic related looks good but due to the lack of flair in his hair, makeup, and general styling, it is aristocrat that could easily pass as regular goth, neovictorian, or even steampunk.

[Anonymous No.8840509]

>>8840498
however, pic related is distinctly EGA. asymmetry and a general modern look makes it far from ouji (which tends to tolerate asymmetry in accents like buttcapes or minihats rather than the cut of a main piece like a jacket). still, his conservative styling makes this rather close to Western goth. imagine a woman in femme aristo with flat hair and no makeup or accessories... (he still looks great btw, just misses half the aristocrat equation for me.)

so, what would non-gothic aristocrat look like? i think of visual kei artist Kamijo, first of all.

[Anonymous No.8840516]

>>8840509
(to be clear, i am not discussing hominid_watching's coord on the right in the above pic.)

pic related is how i imagine a non-gothic aristocrat might look. however, this is really not how most Western aristocrats dress. when not in Moitie they tend to look like what Japanese sources would call "ouji." and Japanese sources would probably not consider pic related to be aristocrat; in fact, outside of Moitie they do not seem to use the term much at all.

for this reason, when discussing what counts as "aristo" we have to rely on Western tradition and community definitions. i feel like we have lost sight of what made EGA aristocratic, though. compare the style of someone like iralina in EGA to a gothic lolita; her hair and makeup and everything else could not really be mistaken for a lolita. if you crop her pics from the waist up, you can usually tell when she was going for EGA and when she was going for lolita.

a big part of aristocrat for me is the grandiosity. i truly wish those who adapted aristocrat themes outside of EGA had kept that part: the glam aspect. the glamor and decadence is lost in most current incarnations of aristocrat.

[Anonymous No.8840527]

>>8840516
anyway, most of the time Kamijo's visual kei style is closer to ouji imo.

pic related is a Japanese dude who tags his outfits as ouji. Boz shop blogs also use "ouji" to describe their mens coords, and Kera shop employees who wear Boz or Boz-like items call such things "ouji." in my opinion, this kind of style, worn by people such as technotropism, is ouji rather than aristocrat.

just as a lolita coord can be anything from Lovely Lor's youthful sweet to Fannie Rosie's understated classic to Marie Dauphine's elaborate goth, what counts as ouji can cover a broad spectrum.

[Anonymous No.8840534]

>>8840498
>>8840509

I agree that using the Western approach, 'ouji' and 'aristocrat' are closely related but different styles, especially with how styles have evolved. I think that the terminolgy differs over here as a result of back when things were harder to get hold of, Moitie's EGA (with EGA being Moitie-specific, as it's what the line is called) was the most prominently known brand. So EGA ended up getting used as the overall name for both the male and female variants, which then ended up with Aristocrat being the overall name.

I use artists such as Akira, and Kamijo as good visual references. I would disagree in saying that Kamijo is 'non-gothic'. I would say that he is very much gothic aristocrat, even when in a white costume. He's like a Japanese real life Lestat. To continue using visual references related to him, I would say that Kamijo comes across as the aristocrat, whereas Teru (considering him in his Versailles style) is definitely ouji, thanks to his more childish appearance in his style, it's more little-boy, with the cropped trousers, more accessories in his hair, the style of his makeup, etc.

I wear both male and female aristocrat, but never venture into ouji (if going by the Western use) territory. I look and feel stupid in things such as knickerbocker breeches and whatnot.

I think you can have different variants in hairstyles for aristocrat. In femme aristo, as my hair can't surive backcombing and loads of hairspray, I tend to go in for the human hair extensions route (synthetic hair irritates the heck out of my skin). I often wear it in a bun, for neatness, before accessorising as appropriate.

[Anonymous No.8840548]

>>8840527
on the left, two versions of lolita: a fanciful one and a maturer/more realistic (even "a la mode") one. on the right, two versions of ouji: a fanciful one and a more toned down/maturer one, imo.

>>8840534
>I think that the terminolgy differs over here as a result of back when things were harder to get hold of
i agree. i think the whole kerfluffle around boystyle back in the early 2000s (kodona vs dandy vs ouji vs aristocrat) is partly to blame for how things have gone. somehow, it was easier for people to accept "lolita" as a name for a range of looks than "ouji"!

i think Kamijo is often gothic, but i also think many classic or sweet lolita outfits would not be out of place in a goth scene. still, when trying to imagine a style that has no canon reference (non-gothic aristocrat) it is difficult to find an example. i do wish more aristocrats would use the glam touch, though. without the gothic element, and without an element of glamor or extravagence, Western male aristo feels too much like generic neo-victorian garb to me. the Japanese street fashion aspect of the elegance is lost as the style is reinterpreted to fit a subdued Western aesthetic.

>it's more little-boy, with the cropped trousers, more accessories in his hair, the style of his makeup, etc.
little boys don't wear those things, and princes are not all little boys. ouji is the male (actually unisex) version of lolita, so the arguments against "dressing like a child" apply to both imo. ouji, like lolita, draws as much from Rococo as Victorian era, and cropped trousers were the norm for men then.

and i cannot think of any period in European fashion history where little boys wore hair accessories that men did not wear. in fact, when people call their ouji style "little boyish" i find they actually mean "girly/cute."

[Anonymous No.8840553]

>>8840534
>I often wear it in a bun, for neatness, before accessorising as appropriate.
which Mana also often did! and as it happens, the other collage i made (with femme vs masc aristo) features such a style.

but to have the hair be simply cropped short, or lie loose and flat, as many male aristos do, just seems to miss the mark of the aesthetic. this is nitpickery on my part.

my own style is gothic ouji and gothic aristocrat. i do not wear breeches above the knee, because i am afraid to, and most of the time my style may fall in the nebulous "is it ouji or aristocrat??" region.

you know, one distinction i feel could be made in lolita/ouji vs aristocrat is a clean, innocent look, or the lack of it. when we say aristo is more mature, to me that is more a matter of moral maturity than age. Mana said something about EGL being the union of innocence and darkness, and to me EGA is that darkness with experience.

sort of like a maiko versus a geisha. a matter of worldliness rather than age. i am maybe going too far into left field with this, so i will take a break, haha

[Anonymous No.8840560]

>>8840548
I think some of the issue at hand with aristo often ending up looking a lot like Western gothic styles, such as neo-Victoriana, is that the Japanese styles were themselves influenced and inspired by these styles. That, as the Japanese trends are becoming more accessible over in the West, and so more common, they are influencing Western styles. It's cyclic in nature somewhat.
I wear a mix of Western gothic styles, and aristocrat, with some lolita (but keeping it mostly hybrid aristocrat if I do wear that). I make sure though to keep my cues based in the Japanese look, so things such as my makeup, the styling of an outfit, etc. I love the big, theatrical 'vampire collars' of some of AatP's coats, and even better if I can combine them with Napoleonic collars. The differences at times can be subtle, but they are there. It's knowing how to spot them. I like to take some inspirations from visual kei, which was itself inspired by Western glam rock in the 70s and 80s.

I agree about the 'little boy'ishness of ouji. It's taking those Rococo and Victorian inspirations, with things such as the cropped torusers. which I agree were worn in centuries up until around the 18th cenury by grown men as well as children. However, these days, they're often seen as being more of a childish thing, to the modern mentality. The feminine 'cuteness' is definitely a part of it, and to me personally, is a big distinction between what I class as being 'aristocrat', and what I see as being 'ouji'.

[Anonymous No.8840568]

>>8840553

I think then that we're in agreement about that then, as the distinctions between the styles. I think that is in part why I like Buttcape's Lolita family triangle.

I don't wear Moitie, but do appreciate the aesthetic. The problem for me is a combination of fit of a lot their pieces, combined with a discomfort of wearing things with crosses on. I find Boz, with some AatP the better fit, and doesn't tend to have crosses on the clothes themselves anywhere near as often. When I'm mixing lolita and femme aristocrat, I love mixing Boz and IW. Pieces such as Pietro Angel (especially in the long length), and Romilda, for example, capture that gothic elegance of aristocrat well, but have that higher hemline of lolita. I keep my makeup and accessories more grounded in the mature, sophisticated basis of aristo, so it's a little simpler, and lighter on the accessories.

[Anonymous No.8840621]

>>8840568
>I think then that we're in agreement about that then, as the distinctions between the styles.
yes. i think it is interesting that we seem to have similar ideas about the distinctions in theory, but might point to different coords as being closer to different categories. that is probably common, to have similar theoretic frameworks but slightly different applications.

honest to god final collage: my impression of the Western boystyle spectrum (my inspo pics are on the darker side, so bias is showing). i believe these are each Western boystylers, not official brand or magazine models.

far left: archetypical ouji.
far right: archetypical aristocrat.
middle: depends on who you ask.

does this seem accurate?

my goal style is close to middle bottom. someday i will be rich and confident and try lolita and femme aristo and then we ought to throw a seagull genre-bending party.

[Anonymous No.8840645]

>>8840621
different anon but id say that bakasoseji is far left in his own OTT fantasy world, even as costumey as ouji can be he takes it to a whole new level.

most of my coords don't really adhere to any of those and end up with aristo coats and whatnot wearing shorts and hats and other very ouji stuff. in retrospect that may be why they are bad.

[Anonymous No.8840668]

>mfw i am a liar

LAST COLLAGE

UNAMBIGUOUS OUJI COORDS IN THREE UNAMBIGUOUS SUBSTYLES:

sweet on the left, classic in middle, gothic on the right.

>>8840645
what you describe sounds within the range of ouji. if you are uncertain or want to post for concrit, i am sure anons can weigh in.

[Anonymous No.8840677]

>>8840621
I'd say that your description of our views is pretty much spot on, especially when it comes to the potential overlap outfits.
The bottom right outfit to me, while in its own right is fine, just looks too much like a Mana cosplay to me, which puts me off it a little, which isn't what 'aristocrat' should be about.
I think an example of the range of aristocrat to overlap with ouji, to ouji is comparing a few of Akira's looks. Her outfits in the video for Kirie Toroimen No Shirabe are more aristocrat with an edge of visual kei, her outfit in the video for Waltz of Vanitas is crossover aristo/ouji, whereas her white and gold AatP outfit (http://img1.ak.crunchyroll.com/i/spire1/c7d7a60e681d78565f6bfd6f821adc0e1407047230_full.jpg)) is definitely ouji. That's what's just coming to mind at the moment for me.

[Anonymous No.8844029]

http://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/Chiffon-Long-Sleeves-Pirate-Style-Lolita-Blouse/1181637_32382210959.html
>Casual-pirate-nouji Chinese bootleg blouse.

It's weird how many results I got on ali when I played around with words like sweet, prince, infata, europe, lolita.

Additionally Infanta stuff is more expensive than on tao or their official store? What's original for this blouse?

[Anonymous No.8844110]

>>8844029
i was just looking for Infanta ouji stuff but their AliExpress shop was empty. you might try for one of the resellers like Qutieland, Clobbaonline, maybe my-lolita-dress... i have no direct experience with them but i would trust them based on anons' experiences. an AE storefront with under 90% feedback rating seems sketchy.

[Anonymous No.8844319]

>>8844110
I was going to check if Infanta has a new year sale on AliExpress, but then I noticed it's empty, so I decided to look for other ouji stuff on Ali and the blouse above is what I found. I thought it's worth sharing.

Still I'd rather try to buy Infanta on Tao, because 20 Dollars is a huge difference for me.

[Anonymous No.8845523]

>>8844319
yes, especially when the quality may be in question!

pic related seems to be an upcoming release, available in at least two colors (red and blue), from AatP. they are still using Christmas decor for trim, i see.

[Anonymous No.8845737]

>>8845523
I was hoping they would release something else in blue soon, but I can't really say I like this. For some reason, it kind of reminds me of fancy pajamas...

[Anonymous No.8845751]

Is ouji/EGA using traditional tailoring fabrics like checks and tweeds a thing? I'm really into tailoring currently and want to try combining elements from British bespoke and military tailoring (such as cuts, details etc) and adapting them to suit the style but there's a 50/50 chance between it working and looking like golfing gear (especially since the britches/bloomer type things are basically just plus fours). If anyone has come across anything like this I'd be interested to see!

[Anonymous No.8846874]

>>8840677
i am in the process of familiarizing myself with the vkei folk you mentioned, fyi

>>8845751
yeah, but i am not an expert. i know creators like I Do Declare incorporate historic research into their designs but the boystyle stuff is not for sale, it seems.

will dump some random stuff to see if i understand what you mean

[Anonymous No.8846889]

>>8846874
>mfw i missed the part about checks and tweeds

reevaluating my dump. check into Excentrique, they might be along that vibe.

[Anonymous No.8846981]

>>8845751
all right, try this again

[Anonymous No.8846989]

>>8846981
pic for ants but have not found a better version: Excentrique is good for historic/military-inspired cuts.

[Anonymous No.8846997]

>>8846989
oldschool ouji for keks. boots aside, the red coord could be updated and made to look pretty good. brand list on the right.

[Anonymous No.8847010]

>>8846997

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>>8847010

[Anonymous No.8847035]

>>8847026

[Anonymous No.8847042]

>>8847035

[Anonymous No.8847716]

>>8847042
i feel like this would look so much nicer with some regular dark pants

[Anonymous No.8847832]

>>8845751
AatP have a tartan boystyle set in atthe moment. Lucian Martin or something like that.

[Anonymous No.8847905]

>>8847716
I think it would look a lot better even if the pants were fitted. Right now they look way too wide and loose.

[Anonymous No.8847928]

>>8847905

They look too short as well.

[Anonymous No.8848000]

>>8845751 here
Thanks for the help, anons! Good to see there's a few things dotted about. I've been doodling some ideas so I think I'm going to track down some appropriate fabric and have a go.

[Anonymous No.8848004]

>>8848000
glad it helped! post results

[Anonymous No.8848384]

>>8848004
Will do! Although it may be some time, since I have to make a three piece suit in the next few weeks (hooray for third year). I will, however, be back in /ouG/ in due course!

[Anonymous No.8849186]

new Little Dipper, looks decent

[Anonymous No.8849193]

>>8845737
Akira modelling the blue

looks a bit better but still, AatP's boystyle game has been p weak

[Anonymous No.8849270]

I want to do prince-coord in the future but almost all crowns I find looks like the pic. I don't really like that style so what kind of crowns would suit the style and not be too feminine?

[Anonymous No.8849289]

>>8849270
VooDoooDolly's crowns are nice, if you can get one.

[Anonymous No.8850763]

>>8849289
on the cheaper end, searching "medieval crown" on etsy will get you shit like pic related. i cannot vouch for quality here, i know each individual component is sold as a type of "filigree wrap" on various Chinese sites but i have never seen them used to make a crown like this before. i would consider them decorative pieces rather than structural components.

[Anonymous No.8852554]

why are fancy eyepatches more common in ouji than lolita? lolita seems to save them for guro coords, but boystylers often use them for different kinds of coords.

is it a pirate thing?

[Anonymous No.8853823]

>>8852554
Eye patches are a bit more gothic, and definitely piratey. An eye patch isn't an every day accessory, you're either a pirate or you are blind/missing an eye. Not a vibe lolita wants to give off most of the time.

I think besides that, a lot of people take inspiration from Kuroshitsuji. I love the outfits in that show and they would fit into just about every substyle of ouji. On the other hand, being mistaken for a Ciel cosplay all the time is annoying.

[Anonymous No.8854661]

>>8853823
>On the other hand, being mistaken for a Ciel cosplay all the time is annoying.
yeah, i may avoid eyepatches at cons for this reason.

for fancy meets or a fun lolita event, i might wear one. it's like a headdress for your face, and then i can wear one circle lens at a time and give the other eye a break. kekeke

[Anonymous No.8854706]

My comm is having a country themed meet in a couple months. Is there an ouji equivalent of country lolita?

[Anonymous No.8854719]

>>8854706
yes, country ouji.

[Anonymous No.8854753]

>>8854719
i am not finding very good examples.

tips:

find a nice straw hat and build a coord around it. straw hats are insta-country.

go for an equestrian look. country gentleman ride horses and hunt foxes and such.

look up pics of victorian country gentlemen. pic related is a good source of inspo imo. the hat, tie, cane, tweed-looking suit with breeches... think along these lines.

country ouji is sort of uncharted territory, it seems, so get creative and help set a good precedent.

[Anonymous No.8854765]

>>8854753
themes to consider:

>gardener
>huntsman
>outdoor gamesman
>landowner
>rascal

motifs:

>hounds
>games like croquet (pic related) or badmitton
>wildlife, especially foxes, badgers, deer, etc.
>horses
>plants, like shrubs, mushrooms, daffodils and other summery flowers

specific items:

>straw hats
>wide-brimmed hats
>suspenders or overalls
>tweed, cotton, natural fabrics
>gloves

[Anonymous No.8854775]

>>8854765
forgot newsboy caps or fisherman caps as well.

finally, it might be stretching it, but making use of a lot of white is a country gentleman's trope.

[Anonymous No.8854863]

>>8854775
if all else fails, something simple like pic related can pass for country.

[Anonymous No.8856942]

>>8854863
I dunno. That's cute and all, but it doesn't really give me an ouji vibe by itself?

[Anonymous No.8857211]

>>8856942
i agree. unfortunately there is not a lot out there that is country-like for ouji.

[Anonymous No.8858149]

>>8857211
I was thinking the same thing. Thanks for the examples though!

[Anonymous No.8859882]

any Valentine's plans, /ouG/?

[Anonymous No.8861675]

>>8859882
going to a meetup, haven't planned a coord

[Anonymous No.8861784]

upcoming R-series long vest with gothic print, because i have no money and have been thirsting for gothic ouji prints for a long time.

[Anonymous No.8861786]

>>8861784
closeup

[Anonymous No.8862381]

>>8861784
There's something very off about this to me. The construction is rather underwhelming I think, with the vest cut sloppy and too baggy. The preview photos don't to me live up to that original print preview.

[Anonymous No.8862684]

>>8862381
yeah, if i got it i would have it tailored, at least.

[Anonymous No.8862806]

>>8862684

Also, what's going on with that waist tie thin, and the see-through panel then the black band at the bottom? It looks veyr out of place.

[Anonymous No.8862948]

>>8862806
The waist tie looks super goofy for sure.

[Anonymous No.8862963]

>>8861784
the waist tie reminds me of that tumblr staff interview where the retard wore a tie like a belt

[Anonymous No.8862968]

>>8862963
>the retard wore a tie like a belt
a literal waist tie

[Anonymous No.8863417]

Help me out gulls
I got wrapped into something I didnt want to do for a birthday party.

I need some ouji mad hatter looks

I am desperate gulls you are my only hope

[Anonymous No.8863631]

Since it's Valentine's day can we have red/heart/flower themed coords?

[Anonymous No.8863699]

While browsing >>8790639, what is the main difference between casual ouji and vkei or gothic clothes? Few cords seem to be close to ouji but at the same time they look VKeish.

Second question: Is it really bad to use 'darker' clothes from normie brands that seem to fit as fillers if I have obviously ouji parts as the most visible ones for casual ouji coords?

[Anonymous No.8863782]

>>8863699
quick answer to your first question: overlap often occurs. just like a sweet dish can be either breakfast or dessert depending on context, an outfit can be both casual ouji and vkei.

for the second, no it is not bad to use off brand items as fillers.

sorry to anons asking for inspo dumps, too busy atm

[Anonymous No.8863836]

>>8863417
ok MAD HATTER HUH

[Anonymous No.8863838]

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>>8863838

[Anonymous No.8863842]

>>8863839

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>>8863842

[Anonymous No.8863847]

>>8863843
that antpic, sorry

[Anonymous No.8863853]

>>8863631
and a couple 4u2

[Anonymous No.8863854]

>>8863853

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>>8863854

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>>8863856

[Anonymous No.8863861]

>>8863858
eh looked like flowers in the thumbnail, maybe fuschia is a good Vday color

[Anonymous No.8863864]

>>8863861

[Anonymous No.8863902]

>>8863858 looks like VK-ouji?


When I'll gain skills, wardrobe and confidence I want to look like >>8863838
>The Prince among lolitas, lol.

>>8863836
Mad Hatters have the best accessories.

[Anonymous No.8865201]

>decide to wear EGA
>wear neck to toe Moitie
>look in mirror
>i am 100% ouji

i cannot escape the ouji aesthetic.

>>8863902
work hard anon, i believe you will be a kawaii prince someday.

[Anonymous No.8865282]

>>8854706
possible country ouji in pic related?

[Anonymous No.8865301]

>>8863847
does anyone know what this jacket it?
the blue rose fabric is so gorgeous

[Anonymous No.8865582]

>>8863836
>>8863838
>>8863839
>>8863842
>>8863843
>>8863847

THANK YOU ANON

[Anonymous No.8865583]

>>8865282
I would say so, yes.

[Anonymous No.8867694]

>>8863853
Thank you~

[Anonymous No.8869189]

>>8865582
YOU'RE WELCOME

>>8867694
y-you too

[Anonymous No.8870388]

More of Aliexpress nouji (bags)! Yay. I actually might buy either of these if I'll be able to decide on one.

http://www.aliexpress.com/item/2014-women-s-handbag-circle-bag-one-shoulder-mini-cross-body-bag-clock-vintage-coin-purse/1762434416.html?spm=2114.10010108.0.221.oR5ES5


http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Female-2015-College-England-style-retro-shoulder-bags-diagonal-package-about-the-printed-books-of-magic/32490135488.html?spm=2114.10010108.100010.2.XGuhPQ

[Anonymous No.8870418]

>>8870388
those seem decent for the price. go for it and report back.

>pic unrelated, in honor of the Hamilton musical winning awards and bringing breeches and jabots to primetime network TV via the Grammys

[Anonymous No.8872863]

I'm thinking of doing an Ouji 101 panel soon.
I want to go over the main bulk of it, did I miss anything?

> meaning of the word Ouji
> Brief history of the fashion
> Other terms and how to use them or not use them
> The anatomy of an Ouji look
> Themes in the fashion
> How Aristocrat is related
> Brands for Ouji
> Coord-ing tricks and tips

[Anonymous No.8875147]

>>8872863
"where to buy" is the most-asked question, followed by "where to buy for plus size/men's size."

[Anonymous No.8876828]

>dat asscape

[Anonymous No.8876830]

>>8876828
brand is Narcissus on Taobao

[Anonymous No.8877930]

wanted to share this tweet from the gothic ouji tag on Twitter. Google translate butchered it a bit (translating "gosurori" to just "gothic") but i thought it was cute that regardless of gender, gothic oujis and lolitas go on dates together.

[Anonymous No.8877939]

>>8865301
i did a reverse image search for you and the original post says it is handmade

[Anonymous No.8878480]

>tfw no ouji pals to purikura with

[Anonymous No.8880243]

Will boystyle ever be popular enough to have meetups in a normal-sized comm? Except for large events, I am usually the only one wearing ouji in the group. I don't know what it's like to hang out with other boystylers.

[Anonymous No.8880258]

>>8880243
I'd like to meet other boystylers too. Any European oujis?

[Anonymous No.8881354]

>>8880258
perhaps not in this thread, but i know there are many around the Paris area

[Anonymous No.8881388]

>>8880258
I'm getting back into ouji after "quitting" a couple of years ago, so I'm currently waiting for stuff in the mail! I'm UK-based

[Anonymous No.8882190]

>>8845751
>here's a 50/50 chance between it working and looking like golfing gear
I just ordered this old AAtP set in green and I feel like I may have made a huge mistake after reading that post

[Anonymous No.8882608]

>>8882190
Personally, I think it's really hard to make ouji specific clothing look like golfing gear. Those shorts go way above the knee and fitted vests aren't really suited for swinging an iron. Also as long as you aren't a middle aged white guy I doubt anyone would make that assumption.

[Anonymous No.8885067]

>>8881388
as someone recently wearing ouji, i am curious: do you think much has changed in the two years you took a break?

[Anonymous No.8885092]

AatP continues with single-size releases

[Anonymous No.8885128]

>>8885092
Ouch. The use of that trim is not working for me.

[Anonymous No.8885164]

>>8885067
Sorry, my bad, english isn't my first language, but last time I wore ouji was 6 years ago. I think a lot has changed, but a lot has also stayed the same. My coords would be considered ita as fuck if I wore them today tho, but I guess that's just how time and trends work.
I think in general it's gotten more diverse, as in trying to mix in the different lolita styles as well, such as sweet ouji and stuff. It's way more easy to get a hold of decent ouji stuff now tho.

[Anonymous No.8885239]

There are rabbit oujis, mad hatter oujis, doll oujis, vk oujis. Why are there no magician or trickster oujis yet?

[Anonymous No.8885272]

>>8885128
yeah. meanwhile Excentrique continues with good quality wearable shit.

>>8885164
>It's way more easy to get a hold of decent ouji stuff now tho
i hope it gets even easier. increase the ouji population.

>>8885239
you have not looked hard enough young padawan

[Anonymous No.8885278]

>>8885272
Excentrique's really grown on me recently. I like the versatility of their pieces, and I've been impressed with the quality of the piece I have. I definitely want to get more. AatP, on the other hand, I've all but given up with.

[Anonymous No.8885724]

What are 'rules' for socks in ouji?
Can I use lolita socks (they're cheaper and more available) for ouji?
Also what size are single size knee socks in Asian stores?

[Anonymous No.8885745]

>>8885724
>What are 'rules' for socks in ouji?
they should be good quality, complement your coord, and fit your legs (i.e. not be stretched out)

>Can I use lolita socks (they're cheaper and more available) for ouji?
yep

>Also what size are single size knee socks in Asian stores?
not sure, and it probably varies between stores. if you search for reviews of the brand or pics of the socks worn you might find info on how they look on people of different sizes.

[Anonymous No.8887478]

what is Miho Matsuda quality like, lately? i want to get in on Golfer Ouji

[Anonymous No.8887589]

>>8885278
>AatP, on the other hand, I've all but given up with.
yeah. the construction of pic related looks wonky, like it is bunched around the seams.

[Anonymous No.8888407]

i make ouji accessories and was talking about ideas i had for future projects. my brother said i should make charms that have the "Prince symbol" and asked me if any oujis had done a Prince coord before.

if anyone can do this, it is you fantastic seagulls. please make this a reality.

[Anonymous No.8888424]

>>8887478
It's Black Peace Now tier, it's of nice quality but not top brand tier quality.

[Anonymous No.8889366]

>>8888407
I would also love to see a Prince coord.

[Anonymous No.8889443]

>>8889366
Putumayo does a lot of purple pieces

just saiyan

[Anonymous No.8889707]

feedback on this coord idea?

[Anonymous No.8890003]

>>8889707
if those are arm warmers, don't
everything else looks fine to me
though the vest and sheer bolero might be too much together

[Anonymous No.8890049]

>>8890003
curious about general anti-armcover sentiment i see in the Western community. Boz, Moitie, AatP, and many other brands make them. are they frowned on in the West because of Hot Topic?

[Anonymous No.8890083]

>>8890049
I've seen armwarmers I like, but not those. The layer of white lace makes them look even more tacky.

[Anonymous No.8890636]

>>8889707
Fugly purse, bolero is too girly, and it looks like you are trying to make up for something with the sleeves isntead of just getting a long sleeved blouse. Depending on where those pants end on you, the patterned otk may be pretty unneeded.

[Anonymous No.8891497]

>>8888407
>>8889366
>>8889443
PoP reblogged this from an ouji meetup. i thought of this thread. not Prince totally but close enough for some fabulous purple inspo

[Anonymous No.8891853]

https://www.etsy.com/listing/270527554/prince-crown-in-brass

Voodooodolly restocked, has nice crowns

[Anonymous No.8892218]

Does anyone here own items from Atelier Pierrot that can tell me about the quality?
I've recently purchased a coat from them and although the shape is lovely and fits me like a glove, I found the material to be quite "cheap"..? It's an okay polyester. I'm quite new and barely own anything "brand" so I'm not sure I was just expecting too much or if I it's just something about this particular piece. Thanks!

[Anonymous No.8892219]

>>8892218
I have a piece of older Atelier Pierrot, and it's really lovely quality.

[Anonymous No.8892665]

>>8891497
did someone say purple

[Anonymous No.8892696]

>>8892665
the color of royalty. a bit muddy in this pic, is it more vibrant in person?

[Anonymous No.8892723]

>>8892218
AtePie's quality is pretty solid, but I have a few nitpicks. Overall though their stuff is quite nice although sometimes they use questionable trims/fabrics.

I have a wool coat, a corset OP, and a blouse. The coat is well constructed and the fabric is nice, but the fur trim they used is cheap. Also they use plastic boning in their corset dresses afaik so they'll eventually bend out of shape.

[Anonymous No.8892756]

>>8892696
First picture is as bright as it gets, unfortunately. The dim yellow lighting doesn't help much when it's already in the darker side. Couldn't pass up the rare non-aatp purple stuff though.

[Clockwork Loyalty !!AeVd1sjJ70p No.8892804]

>>8892665
I swear this is a Bloodborne cosplay

[Anonymous No.8892962]

>>8892756
the muted tone and detailed embellishments help it seem less costumey imo, and let the piece be worn casually. Ozz On right?

[Anonymous No.8893339]

found

[Anonymous No.8893542]

OTT goals

[Anonymous No.8894814]

Elegy Clothing is rereleasing Albuno Accord, but it is not sure what pieces will be involved. couldn't hurt to email them to request the salopette!

[Anonymous No.8895353]

>>8892219
>>8892723
Thank you for your answers!
My coat is very nicely constructed and fits super well to my body, I was just really unimpressed by the choice of fabric. Glad to know their stuff in very nice in general, I'll hopefully get more from them in the future to be able to compare myself.

[Anonymous No.8895361]

Here comes my question can a manlet that is buff get into ouji? Does a man need to wear make up? I am new to this and just wondering I am quiet curious.

[Anonymous No.8895597]

>>8876830
Could I get a link anon? Whenever I search it leads me to a dead link.

[Anonymous No.8895840]

>>8895361
how buff are you? if your shoulders are over 40cm across (measured from the front, not back) you will have a hard time fitting into brand blouses and jackets, and if your waist is wider than 80cm around ditto for pants; but there are numerous indie shops that do custom sizes, both Western and Chinese/TaoBao

[Anonymous No.8895843]

>>8895597
my phone is being ass, so here is a link to a tumblr post that links to the items.

http://ouji-armoire.tumblr.com/post/139710275719/palaceofprinces-new-releases-narcissus-zimri

best i can do with this potato-ass phone, sorry

[Anonymous No.8895851]

>>8893542
who is this angel

[Anonymous No.8895877]

>>8895851
Manus Baudelaire

[Anonymous No.8896209]

>>8895840
Uh yeah I would hulk right though them. Maybe if I stop working out and lose some muscles maybe lol.

[Anonymous No.8896211]

>>8895840
Oh and yeah I saw some places with custom sizes, but you think it would look ok on a hulk like guy? lol.

[Anonymous No.8896242]

>>8896209
>>8896211
it is possible that the tailoring of ouji could flatter your shape, if custom-made. go for more basic cuts, since a burly man in frills and loads of lace will look silly to people who are not used to it.

how do you dress normally? if you can get your normalfag clothes tailored, try wearing casual ouji, like short pants with vests and fun socks, and see how that looks on you. i emphasize tailoring because Western male fashion is shapeless and unflattering. if your calves are too big for patterned socks, tuck longer pants into tall boots.

ouji has an advantage over lolita in that its simplest, most trimmed-down forms are easy to approximate with regular clothing. begin with a base of nice materials in crisp, matching/complementary colors with clean lines, and then you can accessorize in a more flouncy way to your taste. a jabot or cravat with a brooch, a brimmed hat, coiffed hair, and some concealer on any skin imperfections could further ouji-fy the look.

[Anonymous No.8896261]

>>8896242
it took a while but i found a somewhat buff dude in boystyle. i am not a fan of the clashing patterns/fabric choices but for a beginner coord it is fine. room to improve.

[Anonymous No.8896316]

>>8896242
>>8896261
You are so detailed thank you, that really helped a lot. :B

[Anonymous No.8896325]

>>8863861

[Anonymous No.8896341]

>>8896316
glad to help, good luck being the you you want to be

>>8896325
yes wow you are able to recognize someone from an old meme, grats

[Anonymous No.8896367]

heard you gulls liked purple.

38cm shoulders, Ozz On, under $60USD.

http://www.maidenclothing.net/script/detail.php?id=154065201001

[Anonymous No.8896369]

>>8896367
and it doubles as a gilet

[Anonymous No.8897646]

Can someone dump differend kinds of hats and headpieces? I'm thinking of getting some new ones so examples would be good.

[Anonymous No.8897765]

Seeing as there is more activity here than in the EGA thread, does anyone have any up to date measurements for the current run of ladies size regular length Roland jackets from Boz? All of my Rolands are in the mens' size, with my regular length one being from a few years ago. Are the waist measurements for the ladies size still about 65cm? The bust on the mens' size for some reason is a little smaller on the long length Roland (94cm as opposed to 98cm). 94cm is already on the bit too big for me side, as my bust is under 85cm, so I'm curious as to whether the ladies' size is still too small for me.

[Anonymous No.8898485]

>>8897765
i assume you have checked their website? i do not know personally though, sorry!

>>8897646
worn or no, and does it matter if i know the brand or not? here is an infographic of some types of hats in the meantime

[Anonymous No.8898576]

>>8898485
They never list the waist measurement. That's the problem.

[Anonymous No.8898655]

>>8898576
rats. if no one here knows, you might try the lolita gen, since i think everyone checks there.

[Anonymous No.8898829]

>>8898485
Worn or not, it doesn't matter. And I can search the brand myself if there's something I like

[Anonymous No.8899069]

>>8898655

Thanks. Boz's sizing inconsistency and lack of giving full measurements is the one thing that annoys me about their site. Sometimes I'm on the lower end of the fit for the ladies size, other times I'm too big for it and need the blokes size, which usually ends up on the bit too big side for me.

[Anonymous No.8899109]

>>8899069
one thing i do know is it's best to buy for your widest point, and tailor down the rest. my shoulders are too broad for lady's Boz, but universal feedback on my men's Boz jacket is it is too loose. i am going to have to get it tailored or forever be a frump.

>>8898829
here is a mini dump that is kind of random, starting with a tall stack of hats

[Anonymous No.8899110]

>>8899109
beret and mini top hat (the nicer kind)

[Anonymous No.8899113]

>>8899110
military

[Anonymous No.8899119]

>>8899113
special floppy/soft top hat different gothic brands make (this is prob either Moitie or the Bodyline knockoff)

[Anonymous No.8899120]

>>8899119
tricorne

[Anonymous No.8899121]

>>8899120
horns

[Anonymous No.8899122]

>>8899121
regular top hat

[Anonymous No.8899123]

>>8899122
crown with veil?

[Anonymous No.8899125]

>>8899123
or a bunch of feathers.

and a bicorne. all for now, hope this gives a bit of help

[Anonymous No.8899294]

>>8899109

The shoulders on the ladies fits me fine, it's the waist that's the issue for me, as I'm a classic pear-shape. 32 inch bust, 27 inch waist, I've gone up half an inch or so recently thanks to gaining mscle.

[Anonymous No.8899376]

Can someone post some examples of older men in aristocrat?
I finally have the time and resources to live the dream, but I have no idea how to put together a coord that works with my natural features and inclination.

[Anonymous No.8899410]

>>8899294
right, so you might need to go for men's and have the shoulder area tailored.

i hope someone can definitively answer you on the measurements though.

>>8899376
since aristocrat means different things to different people, can you describe the type of coord you are looking for? historic inspired, EGA, or "maturer ouji"?

will do one of each for now.

>historic-inspired Aristocrat

[Anonymous No.8899415]

>>8899410
Why I was asking about the sizing on the more current ones, becase the sizes seem to fluctuate somewhat. I was wanting to see whether the waist on the ladies' size had gotten any bigger than the 65cm I know it was about a few years ago.

[Anonymous No.8899418]

>>8899410
EGA (speaking of illfitting Boz, what is this guy doing)

[Anonymous No.8899426]

>>8899415
yeah that was clear, sorry for any confusion, just trying to offer random advice since no one has an answer.

>>8899418
and ouji with pants/could be called ouji or aristo depending on the individual

[Anonymous No.8899482]

>>8899426
No worries.

[Anonymous No.8899519]

>>8899410
>>8899426
Greatly lean towards these, with some more towards historical.
The shorts are just right out, couldn't even imagine wearing them.

[Anonymous No.8899623]

>>8899519

Boz and Moitie are as a whole the main go-to brands for Aristocrat for men. You can work with some Victoriana goth pieces and offbrand stuff, but the big problem with going for a purely historical look is that it just ends up looking like a reenactment outfit rather than being inspired by that fashion. Vicorian is the main historial era really for basis for Aristo, although a touch of 18th century can creep in at times. It's striking that balance.

[Anonymous No.8899625]

>>8899519

[Anonymous No.8899627]

>>8899625

[Anonymous No.8899632]

>>8899627
my examples aren't that old, sorry

[Anonymous No.8899634]

>>8899632
also that one was proper EGA, not the fusiony style you asked for - damn thumbnails tricked me into not seeing that flowy gilet

[Anonymous No.8899639]

>>8899634
and an ouji without poofy shortpants just because

[Anonymous No.8900599]

>>8899125
Thank you, this helped alot. Now i just need to wait for my mail to arrive.

[Anonymous No.8901376]

Any reference/pic/info for a fat ouji/aristocrat ? Can it work? This is a serious question.

[Anonymous No.8901459]

>40cm shoulders
>Most of brands have 38cm shoulders
Will anything fit?

[Anonymous No.8901494]

>>8901459
Men's sizes for Atelier Boz, Moitie, AatP, Excentrique; alice auaa, Deorart, Putumayo, and others also release things with 40cm shoulders or greater.

then there is Taobao, Western Indie, Bodyline, etc.

[Anonymous No.8901733]

>>8901494
There's no chance to fit 38, right?

[Anonymous No.8901750]

>>8901733

Some of Boz's coats have shoulders 44cm. I can't say about Moitie though sorry.

[Anonymous No.8901874]

>>8901459
>>8901494
I fit into Boz with 46cm shoulders. It's tight, but still looks fine. Not many people really fit into lolita, the majority of us are squeezing into it and can't bend over or raise our arms above our heads.. but we're in it, and look fine. Ouji is even worse because we have to worry about all the extra measurements that come with pants, but if you're a few cm over you'll be fine. Remember you can always resew the buttons to loosen things up a bit as well.

That said I'm a 5'7 120lbs hungry skeleton and I struggle to fit into a lot of things especially if they're cut for women. My advice is only to buy secondhand and be prepared to sell things back if they arrive and don't fit. I've actually MADE money buying really cheap deals and being forced to sell it back for that sweet sweet USD.

[Anonymous No.8902087]

>>8901733
i just gave you brands that go over 38...? i don't understand.

[Anonymous No.8902913]

>>8878480
qq

i have white rabbit too, but no friends

[Anonymous No.8902914]

>>8885272
pricey as hell though, crying tears of blood

>one day when i can get out of school and get a real job..

[Anonymous No.8902921]

>>8901376
don't have a reference pic, it could work but you'd need to have your stuff tailored to fit, that would look best

>it's bad if your buttons look like it's about to pop off, as long as the fit is good you should be able to do it, but might have to try twice as hard to look good compared to skinny people

[Anonymous No.8902932]

>>8901376
here is one pic

other anon gives good advice

[Anonymous No.8902933]

>>8902932
the examples i have aren't very good

[Anonymous No.8902936]

>>8902933

[Anonymous No.8902941]

>>8902936

[Anonymous No.8903058]

>>8901376
Personally, I just hoarded accessories, shoes, and legwear until I lost most of the weight.

[Anonymous No.8903210]

>>8902921
>>8902932
>>8903058
Thanks guys, you giving me more confidence to pull this off. Love yall.

[Anonymous No.8903591]

>>8899294
It looks like there is one on LM right now, they list it as 70 cm max for the waist.

[Anonymous No.8903690]

>>8903591
I spotted that, thank you. While I'm under that measurement, having space for thick layers is nice, so I've gone for the mens' size. That said, this is an older version according to the seller, and I was more curious about the current production run. The main concern I've had ultimately is the bust being too big for me on the mens', size, and knowng that the bust is ok on the ladies but not knwoing the waist size is a pain. The waist on the mens size is okayish, albeit a little big, but I can cinch it in a smidge with the back dtrap detail.

[Anonymous No.8903773]

>>8903690
buy both and Frankenstein them together keeping half from each coat, then sell the unwanted V-shaped twin

[Anonymous No.8904050]

>>8902087
yes thank you. but knowing if i might fit 38 would be good too. i d have much bigger choice and variety then. also these brands are the more expensive ones. im poor.

>>8901874
46? are you guy? im just 5'7-8(?) girl. also too poor for buying just to resell.

[Anonymous No.8904064]

>>8904050
>but knowing if i might fit 38 would be good too.
measure across the front of your shoulders and see.

>also these brands are the more expensive ones. im poor.
get them second hand and learn to use Taobao.

[Anonymous No.8904224]

>>89037737

Wow, that sounds liek an utterly ridiculous and unfeasible idea. Might as well have a completely custom made coat based on it. Just easier to get the mens' size and have the vest part taken in a little.

[Anonymous No.8904405]

Just bought a pair of legwarmers because of the cute pattern, but never had much experience with leg warmers.
>How should they be used?
>Should I wear stocking under them?
>What colour?
>What type of shoes?
>What colourm

[Anonymous No.8904632]

>>8904405

You've made a terrible mistake.

[Anonymous No.8904741]

>>8904405
legwarmers are a bit outdated. they might work as a hybrid with another style, like nanchatte or punk. with ouji, i have only seen leg covers that were clearly not socks used when they are clearly extensions of the shorts, usually attached to them with straps. however even this is an outdated look.

[Anonymous No.8905454]

>>8904405
Wear them on your arm and show of your power level. When you walk do the windmill and rotate your arms around for more kawaii desu~~~~~~ effect

[Anonymous No.8905676]

>>8904050
i am a guy yes

i just bought 3 brand blouses for $70 total off of yahoo auctions. one of them fit, the other two i resold for 40 and 50. you can really flip things if you learn where to look. my friend who showed me how has made crazy money hunting down deals, like.. buying an old AP set for $50 and reselling it for 200. i wouldn't have believed it if i hadn't seen it.

i bought a vest for ~100 off the AatP website and a few weeks later found it secondhand for 45, feels bad man.

[Anonymous No.8905679]

>>8905676
>i bought a vest for ~100 off the AatP website and a few weeks later found it secondhand for 45, feels bad man.
at least you supported the brand directly fampai, may they use your dollars wisely

>pic unrelated

[Anonymous No.8906270]

>>8905454
XD Arigatou anon-chan. Will do~

[Anonymous No.8907405]

>>8905676
Any tips you're willing to share on the initial hunting? I've also got 46cm shoulders and I had resigned myself to having to make everything.

[Anonymous No.8908593]

>tfw dream item popped up on Closet Child and quickly sold
>was very reasonably priced
>am still unreasonably poor

grats to the lucky bastard, please care for it for me

[Anonymous No.8910428]

>>8907405
make a list of all shops/brands you find that carry larger sizes. add to it as you discover them.

usually, items which button up on the men's side are more likely to have wider shoulders/armholes. when a blouse or jacket is displayed on a dress form, if the hem is well below the waistline (closer to the bottom of the form) it is also likelier to be a larger size. i look for these two things while browsing and they usually work to identify mens blouses.

[Anonymous No.8913456]

what is everyone doing?

[Anonymous No.8913767]

>>8899121
This looks so stupid with the horns worn sideways like that.

[Anonymous No.8913768]

>>8913767
don't do drugs kids. always coord sober.

[Anonymous No.8913795]

HOW TO BOYSTYLE AS A BALD BOY?

[Anonymous No.8913951]

>>8913795
wig

[Anonymous No.8914243]

>>8899110
I really like the clock bag. I hope AliExpress one will look as good as the one in the picture. Tho 4 being written as IIII still bothers me a bit. Waiting warmly. Also I like their coords in general.

[Anonymous No.8917095]

>>8914243
review when you get it?

i also like their coords

[Anonymous No.8918248]

>>8840621
Buttcape (Bottom Left) always looks good.

[Anonymous No.8918376]

>>8905679
I love that Roland coat

[Anonymous No.8921876]

can't really get into sailor ouji. seems like quirky womenswear 2bh, way too different from other ouji styles.

[Anonymous No.8922756]

>>8921876
To me it doesn't seem too different from sweeter ouji styles. Pic related is relatively similar, just with a normal blouse instead of a sailor blouse.

Obviously it's pretty different from more elegant and gothic ouji styles, but ouji is a pretty broad fashion, with both elegant and cute looks.

[Yunana No.8923415]

>want to be ouji
>dark skin
>scars
>also acne scars
>hair is curled (I'm african/arab so its not super nappy or anything. just doesn't fit)
can i or nah?

[Anonymous No.8923422]

>>8923415
>Not taking advantage of some kind of North African prince visiting Europe aesthetic

Wtf are you doing, anon?

Does makeup not do anything for your scars?

[Anonymous No.8923430]

>>8923415
heck yeah. just take care of your skin, and wear appropriate primer+foundation to smooth and even it out. as for hair, curly haired princes are super cute. you can also wear a good wig.

will see what i have for dark-skinned ouji inspo.

[Anonymous No.8923432]

>>8923430
the best ones i have are female, hope that's all right

[Anonymous No.8923440]

>>8923415

Try adding a glycolic acid AHA to your skincare routine, it'll help with your scars. EGF, Vit C and hyaluronic acid are a good shout too. These should also help with post-inflammatory hyperpigmentation.

[Anonymous No.8923451]

>>8923432
for curly hair, you can do something like pic related

[Anonymous No.8923459]

some ouji makeup tuts

>"Shiny Prince"

[Anonymous No.8923462]

>>8923459
>"Classic Prince"

[Anonymous No.8923467]

>>8923462
*Classical Prince, sorry

and

>"Dark Prince"

basically, sweet, classic, and gothic ouji looks. never saw sweet called "shiny" before, i vote for that to be the new name for it.

[Yunana No.8923732]

>>8923422
Huh. I'm new around here. Didn't expect people from 4chan to be so supportive no offense :) haven't really ever used make up before either. Got any good guides/tips? Thanks ahead of time.

[Anonymous No.8925719]

>>8840668
I didn't realize there were substyles, awesome

[Anonymous No.8925853]

>>8925719
yep, see the makeup tutorials above. ouji is boystyle lolita so it follows the same categories.

>>8923732
what specifically are you looking for?

[Yunana No.8926077]

>>8925853
Don't know much about it. I guess just basic stuff. Covering up scars/blemishes though I'd perfer it to look as natural as possible.

[Anonymous No.8927491]

>>8926077
check out the makeup thread, and do some googling to see what might work for you. youtube tutorials are a good source to investigate also

[Anonymous No.8927499]

>>8926077
Are you male or female?

[Yunana No.8927782]

>>8927499
Male :)

[Anonymous No.8929389]

What type of shoes go best with sailor ouji?

[Anonymous No.8929408]

>>8929389
depends on whether you are closer to sweet or classic. rockinghorses go well with sweet...

[Anonymous No.8929409]

>>8929408
and sometimes boots do also

[Anonymous No.8929413]

>>8929409
for edgier looks, boots seem most common. i do not know what pic related are but they would also work.

[Anonymous No.8930642]

Any recommendations or sample of messenger bags or backpack for a person that is trying to go around con wearing ouji?

[Anonymous No.8930735]

everyone and their mom have these diamond socks. where can i get mine for cheap?

[Anonymous No.8930834]

Is there brando for ouji ? Is there a list?

[Anonymous No.8930836]

>>8930735
diligent 2nd hand shop checking

>>8930834
see the links in OP

[Anonymous No.8930838]

>>8930642
what substyle/type of ouji do you wear?

[Anonymous No.8930853]

>>8930838
I am male and new to this, but it's neverland.

[Anonymous No.8930862]

>>8930853

What the fuck is neverland?

[Anonymous No.8930876]

>>8930862
Google it, I am a huge male it's the only way I can still dream of wearing ouji since custom size and all. If you hate on me for that it's fine.

[Anonymous No.8930885]

>>8930862

[Anonymous No.8930947]

>>8930836
>diligent 2nd hand shop checking
>2nd hand
>socks
...I'm a bit afraid...

[Anonymous No.8930974]

>>8930885
ah that is the brand. for substyle it looks like you could either go sweet or classic.

this has a regal theme so maybe find something with gold accents. i assume you want something very roomy? check these out:

http://www.my-lolita-dress.com/mufish-rose-cross-lolita-bag-3-use-mf-28 (a bit gothic but can be worn crossbody or as a backpack)

http://www.my-lolita-dress.com/black-white-piano-keyboard-prints-lolita-cross-body-bag-w-30 (huge range of custom color selection)

http://www.my-lolita-dress.com/japanese-student-uniform-black-brown-lolita-fashion-handbag-w-25 (something plainer/more versatile)

http://m.aliexpress.com/item/32592263069.html (every ouji needs a clock bag of some kind, this one could be good for schlepping around a convention all day)

explore the shops in the google doc linked to in the OP to see what you can find.

[Anonymous No.8930975]

>>8930947
if you stick to Japanese secondhand sites they will likely be in good or even new condition. another term to search for is "harlequin socks" (in addition to "diamond")

[Anonymous No.8930999]

I still have old Bodyline 3/4 breeches with straps (I can't find them on BL anymore?).
Would they work as a casual cord if I cut straps (they don't match anything anyway? Unless I'd hide them under a vest?) and wore them with a black t-shirt? I'm still looking for other accessories so...


>>8930975
I'd be afraid to wear an underwear already used by someone even if it was looking almost like new.

[Anonymous No.8931003]

>>8930999
I forgot to add it's my obvious inspiration (not me).

>>8930974
>http://m.aliexpress.com/item/32592263069.html (every ouji needs a clock bag of some kind, this one could be good for schlepping around a convention all day)
Clock bags are awesome. I'm still waiting for mine clock back. I got it just before AE raised prices for everything.

[Anonymous No.8931076]

>>8930974
2nd and 4th one are probably my favorite thanks it really helped.

[Anonymous No.8931084]

>>8930974
>tfw i can never go Gothic since it has crosses on em and my mom is a strict Buddhist.

Referring to the first item

[Anonymous No.8931147]

I guess this question is asked and answered a lot, but google search is not really helping.
Is it common to use chest binders in boystyle?

[Anonymous No.8931404]

>>8930999
can you post a pic of them? what kind of straps do you mean?

random casual ouji for contribution

[Anonymous No.8931409]

>>8931076
you are welcome

>>8931084
pick gothic that has other features, pic related. (don't remember where i found this bag...) roses, candles, keys, architecture, bones, anatomy, bats, books... so many non cross themes to choose from.

>>8931147
it is up to personal taste. going Utena-mode (unbound) is fine. going Mulan-mode is fine too. you might find binding helps items fit better if your chest is large (same with lolita). minimizer bras could be an option if you want to reduce without flattening.

[Anonymous No.8931448]

>>8931084

Wtf is a strict Buddhist? I thought the whole point of Buddhism was to be a cool dude.

[Anonymous No.8931457]

>>8931448
not that anon, but my friend was raised in a culty Buddhist sect (like the Japanese version of Scientology), and other factions have been historically less than tolerant as well.

[Anonymous No.8931503]

>>8931404
I think it's these pants.

[Anonymous No.8931873]

>>8931448
My mom thinks Christianity is gory and gross. How can they worship a bleeding dude, or a god that panish people etc. Everything to violent.

[Anonymous No.8932342]

I have too much of free time recently.
Additionally there's a sale on Bodyline.
Is anything worth getting?

I'm considering as a filler
http://item.rakuten.co.jp/bodyline/p288/
I'm certain I seen it as a part of coord with matching pants? But I can't find them anywhere.

[Anonymous No.8934574]

>>8932342
i have no Bodyline, sorry. try the BL thread?

[Anonymous No.8935477]

>mfw passive aggressive compliment-fishing dude keeps posting dumb shit to the ouji facebook group

thanks for being real, /ouG/

[Anonymous No.8935487]

>>8935477

[Anonymous No.8935511]

>>8935487
facebook makes me tired on the inside

[Anonymous No.8935979]

>>8934574
I guess I did ask too many questions at the same time.

>>8935487
10/10

>>8935511
is this all from kodona/ouji unite group? I browse it but I'm too noob to join.

[Anonymous No.8936241]

>>8935979
>is this all from kodona/ouji unite group? I browse it but I'm too noob to join.
yes.

it is mostly noobs (never trust the judgement of anyone who uses "kodona") so fear not.

[Anonymous No.8936952]

>>8936241
Agreed. I wish there were more nice coords to look at in the ouji group. A lot of what gets posted there is pretty rough. Which is fine in itself; everyone has to start somewhere. It'd just be cool if there was a better distribution of quality.

[Anonymous No.8937476]

I'm always afraid to post pics of my ouji coords on FB groups because they aren't great, but no one on the Ouji group will give any constructive criticism. Even the bottom of the barrel shit gets praised.

[Anonymous No.8937595]

>>8930735
I've got a pair of these http://www.my-lolita-dress.com/japanese-gingham-overknee-lolita-socks-tr-1
And while I haven't had a chance to really wear them with an outfit yet, the quality seems decent and they actually will go just barely over-the-knee even on my giant white person legs.

Sock Dreams also has some argyles: http://www.sockdreams.com/products/socks-special-collections/argyle/ and while I don't own any of those specifically I've generally been pleased with the quality of what they carry and the accuracy of their descriptions.

[Anonymous No.8937995]

Any recommendation of ouji glasses frame? Lol

[Anonymous No.8939692]

>>8937476
have you tried CoF? can also post here

[Anonymous No.8939730]

>tfw Buttcape-senpai is returning

she posted a spreadsheet for places to buy boystyle. will check it against the one we use in the OP. meanwhile you can check it out yourself:

https://drive.google.com/open?id=12fA-VA2PkRctKPlYFsT3GnIba-Ytdt-RArDfLw0Bba4

[Anonymous No.8940150]

There is a con dedicated to asian music and fashion in my city in autumn. Me and my friend decided to go there in ouji. Can I have an inspo dumb of oujis with matching outfits?

We have though of shiro/kuro -combo or sailors with one in reverse colours but inspo would be good since we haven't decided anything yet.

[Anonymous No.8941395]

>>8940150
not a lot out there, will dump what i have

[Anonymous No.8941411]

>>8941395

[Anonymous No.8941414]

>>8941411

[Anonymous No.8941421]

>>8941414

[Gerardo Woodward No.8941787]

Finally I did order my dream Rabbit Poker vest.
>It's literally the most expensive item I bought by myself.
And now I can't afford to buy matching pants.
I want to cry over how greedy I was.

[Cecilia Cooper No.8941860]

>>8941787
in time, Gerardo. for now, love your guilty little vest.

[Leon Alvarez No.8941866]

>>8882190
This set arrived in the mail a while ago but I was wondering if anyone would have advice for what type of blouse to wear underneath the vest? I only have a couple blouses with lace from moitie and they don't suit the shape of the opening in the front.

[Anonymous No.8944213]

>>8930999
>>8931404
>>8931503
I guess I'll look for other 3/4 pants to do it, but any ideas how to make it work?

Also: Why does our thread still have the April Fools day theme?

[Anonymous No.8944224]

>>8944213
>I guess I'll look for other 3/4 pants to do it, but any ideas how to make it work?
which pants do you actually have?

>Also: Why does our thread still have the April Fools day theme?
not sure what you mean by this.

[Anonymous No.8944287]

I'm new to ouji in the regard that I want to get into it, I've been doing the research and looking at where/how to buy before I ask any stupid questions

stupid question time, how do I actually make the leap into it? I don't know if I have a local comm to even join.

[Anonymous No.8944293]

>>8944224
Nvm, I guess my browser still had the old theme loaded.

>which pants do you actually have?
I'm just curious how to make it work atmtbh. I'm a beginner and I'm still creating my wardrobe.

[Anonymous No.8946306]

>>8895840
>147cm height
>41-43cm shoulders across front
>107-108 cm shoulder circumference
>82cm waist, at least an inch above my navel
>104cm hips
I could drive down my waist with weight loss probably but my shoulders are probably stuck

tailoring everything is great

[Anonymous No.8946828]

>>8946306
you could fit some men's Boz, and Excentrique, but indie/taobao may be more versatile and cost effective. i will plug Elegy clothing again, they have good quality, a range of sizes, and will be rereleasing their Albino Accord salopette soon.

[Anonymous No.8946920]

>>8944287
Do research online, ask stupid questions here or try the ouji/kodona fb group.
Buy clothes, then wear the clothes.
Ta dah.

[Anonymous No.8947020]

>>8946828
thank you a lot for the recs, you're a great person

[Anonymous No.8949272]

I finally got the AliExpress clock bag with 'IIII' instead of 'IV'!

My life as the casual-nouji is almost complete now!

A Clock Bag [x]
An Ouji-hairdo [x]
At least 1 (indie) brand piece [x]
Nouji Status [x]

Happy! Now I should find a comm to dress up with!

[Anonymous No.8949285]

>>8949272
hooray! the lolita threads usually have a comm spreadsheet you can use to find your nearest lolita community. meanwhile, feel free to selfpost for concrit/asspats/apathy here among your fellow seagulls.

[Anonymous No.8949324]

>>8949285
Thanks!
I still have few steps until I'll be good enough to self-post, but anyway I'm very happy about every small step I do.

[Anonymous No.8949332]

Posted this in the coord thread but figured I could post it here. But any help would be appreciated!

>>8947916

[Anonymous No.8952086]

>>8949332
a pop of color somehow. a corsage, flowers in hat, etc.

[Anonymous No.8952369]

Can anyone recommend some brands that sell or have sold these kinds of newsboy caps? They're slightly poofier than the ones you'd get in a normal store online and have that JRPG look to them (This is a really plain, cheap-looking example though).

I've looked through some Ouji brands and not found anything, but I don't know if there's any old stock that I've missed, I'm also not sure if it'd be worth digging around the lolita brands as I wouldn't be surprised if there were some there too. I get the feeling maybe even Putumayo or MAXCIMAM may have had something similar at somepoint.

Nothing pink/purple though.

[Anonymous No.8952414]

>>8952369

Whoops, forgot the pic.

[Anonymous No.8953524]

>>8952369
>>8952414

Just in case anyone is interested, I found out what this is actually called, Japan use the french word 'Casquette' for 'Cycling hat' or whatever to describe this type of cap. It seems to be widely listed as キャスケット. Putumayo currently have one in their shops but it's kind of flimsy and doesn't really look like a Casquette IRL

[Anonymous No.8953550]

>>8952414
>>8952369
Some nice shaped ones I found on ebay are called newsboys applejack cause I'm looking for one for Nostalgic Ragnarok Online.

Pick related, I found using "newsboy cap applejack"

[Anonymous No.8953578]

>>8953550

Hmm, they look a bit cheap though. Probably good as a cosplay base but I'm mainly looking for something with better detailing and maybe an interesting colour scheme in a more durable fabric.