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8762968 No.8762968 [Reply] [Original]

We've had "atmospheric cosplay" threads in great locations and those are good. And we've had posing threads, and those are good. But most shoots don't take place in a stunning location, and a great pose gets you nowhere if the photographer can't frame it for shit. So I'd like to get a thread that combines the ideas: composition plus poses that can be made in any relatively empty area, and will turn out well 95% of the time.

For example: playing it completely safe with the rule of thirds takes a solid photograph most of the time.

>> No.8762969
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More playing it safe with the rule of thirds.

>> No.8762973
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>>8762969
Yet more.

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>>8762973
Yet more.

>> No.8762975
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>>8762974
This time with a sword.

>> No.8762977
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A full body shot where the subject is slightly diagonal.

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>>8762977
But preferably one prop or limb is close to vertical.

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>>8762978
And again.

>> No.8762983
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Two people walking, shot from behind, where one of them is tugging on the other.

>> No.8762997

i have nothing to add, but thank you for a quality cosplay thread, OP.

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>> No.8763032
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I look at a fair number of engagement photos for cosplay ideas, which has taught me "you can do whatever you want, as long as it's in the middle of a bridge."

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Another non-cosplay shot, but the thing the kid is doing on the bottom, leaning up against the wall with one leg up, always looks good.

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>>8763032
Wait I do have a cosplayer on a bridge.

Vanishing points!

>> No.8763102

>>8763044
>vanishing points

Could you explain this one a little better? I'm a cosplayer who's trying to get better with a camera, and these are pretty helpful. Any good bread and butter group photos would be awesome too - sometimes I have trouble posing larger groups without it looking like a prom photo.

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>>8763102
http://www.digital-photo-secrets.com/tip/3500/using-a-vanishing-point-in-your-photography/

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>>8763102
If the characters are cool types, a staggered walking shoot. Everyone can look at the camera, or you can mimic the Reservoir Dogs poster and have everyone doing their own thing.

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>>8763154
More staggered depth.

>> No.8763198
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A three-quarters angle, cropped at the waist or higher, looking slightly upward and offscreen.

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>>8763198
It's just flattering on most people.

>> No.8763422
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Group shots courtesy of Gantz fandom.

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>>8763422

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>>8763427
imho this one would have been better going shortest to tallest.

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>>8763430
And on the opposite side of the moe-to-grimdark spectrum, Love Live is also good about using depth.

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>>8763436

>> No.8763445
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>>8763437
V-formation is good shit.

>> No.8763447

>>8763154
>>8763128
Thanks, anons, this is a very helpful thread. I've been wanting a photography help thread for a while but they tend to devolve into drama over which photographer's composition sucks more. This is a refreshing change.

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>>8763445
Sailor Moon fandom has had a long time to work on this, too, if you want to go looking for inspiration.

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>>8763450
Big groups can be broken down into smaller sub-groups, where A and B are having a conversation, C is chasing after A and B, D has an arm around E, and so on and so forth. (This isn't necessarily a great example of that.)

>> No.8763466
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"Look at that thing off-screen and slightly upward!"

>> No.8763469
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I'm a huge sucker for shallow depth of field shots where a focused item of personal significance is in the foreground and the cosplayer is out of focus walking away from it in the background.

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>>8763469
I like it with people, too.

>> No.8766382

bump for more cool tips

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Extended arm.

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>>8767867

>> No.8770406

Bump feed me more

>> No.8770411

>>8763025

Is this The Bride's Story cosplay??!!

>> No.8770424
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>>8762978
This is crucial. Dutch angles look really stupid if you just tilt the camera a little bit. You need to line at least one thing up on the vertical, otherwise it just looks dizzy.

>> No.8770426
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And here's a good guide for where is and isn't a good place on the body to crop a portrait. Green lines good, red lines bad.

>> No.8770430
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A guide to how focal length can separate or smush together aspects of the background.

Remember that this is on a full frame camera, and most entry level DSLRs are crop sensors, so add ~15-20mm to the focal length to get the apparent focal length when you're shooting with a body with an APS-C sensor.

>> No.8770432

10/10 thread so far
based op

>> No.8770443

>>8770432
I thought the same! I'm getting into photography and this thread is great.

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>>8770432
I'm really enjoying this thread too! Lots of interesting ideas.

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Shooting between structures (columns in this case) to look at the cosplayer.

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>>8771295
And another. It helps if the structures frame the cosplayer.

>> No.8771405

>>8762968
>awkwardly cropping off the top of her head
>good composition

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I love corridor shots like these

>> No.8771428

>>8762977
This photo is bad. Sorry. the foot AND the tip of the sword are cut off, while there's plenty of room in the top for the subject to have been framed properly. Also vignetting.

>> No.8771432

>>8763450
No!! Shooting from up with a group that is in a V formation is only good when the smallest legs are in the middle! Front two look disproportionately fat. Generally, shooting from low is very hard if you are shooting a whole body that isn't stick-thin. Note how fat the green haired girl looks, despite probably not being fat at all (the disparity in the size of her arms proves it)

I don't watch SM but this is a terrible photo, clearly framed only because of the interesting ceiling.

>>8763485
Asuka looks like an extra from the walking dead, and the shot isn't as shallow a DOF as you think, it has clearly been blurred. Probably shot with an 85 at most.

All other shots are decent except for terrible post work, but I'm griping on these two the most.

>> No.8771468

>>8763450

I can't get over how ugly their Sailor Pluto is on the right. Such an unfortunate face with a derpy expression. How hard can it be to direct her to a different angle that doesn't make her face look like shit?

>> No.8771507

>>8762968
>>8762969
>>8762973
>>8762983
>>8763044
these pics are all unbalanced

>> No.8771539

>>8770411
i've never seen a Otoyomegatari cosplay that wasn't Amir! that's so cool!

>> No.8771553

>>8771507
How would you correct them, anon? Does the rule of thirds not apply? Not being sassy, just looking to learn. The fruits basket photo in particular looks fine to me.

>> No.8771581

>>8771296
They missed the focus on her though, so this one doesn't work.

>> No.8771585

>>8771428
I tend to use vignetting as a technique to draw the viewer's eye to the subject -- I've had actual legit lens vignetting happen once when I was shooting in bright sunlight with a lens hood, but sometimes I'll add it in in post. Is this tacky?

>> No.8771609
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What do you think about this

>> No.8771645

>>8771609
It's a good start! I think it can be cropped a little tighter-- there's too much space above her head, and you can get rid of some of the space to the left.

Also, the colors are kind of drab/boring as is. I'd bring out the yellows/golds a little more and consider upping the contrast a little bit. This will also help the white in her dress pop a little more-- it's a little dark as is. Perhaps doing some sort of color grade so that it's not a big wash of grey. This is all a matter of taste though.

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>>8771645
Here's how I would crop it, for reference. Places her body more in the left third of the photo and removes some of the excess space above her head.

>> No.8771712

>>8771585
Black vingnetting is super super tacky. It combines with over 'contrasting' (aka. grabbing the contrast slider and shoving it up) and just looks bad. If you need to use something like that to draw the viewer's eye to the subject, consider shooting in a less busy location or, really, just composing your shots better.

>> No.8771815

>>8771585
>>8771712
idk, I think really harsh vignettes are tacky, but a subtle black vignette can be nice. It depends on the photo and subject in question, but used appropriately, a super subtle vignette can be a nice touch.

>> No.8771842

>>8771815
Subtle means only doing 1-3 corners, if that. It's the same as shitty corner blurs. You have to be artistic to make it work.

>> No.8773639

Half of the shit photography people say is really tacky, normfags love (dutch angles, vignette, blurred edges, filtered to death shit). We're not shooting fine art here.

>> No.8773689

>>8767867
Posing 101 for cosplayers: Be as boring as humanly possible.

>> No.8773694

>>8773689
>why are amateurs not very good at something
Good observation.

>> No.8773696

>>8773639
Why aren't we shooting fine art? Great photography is still great no matter the subject.

>> No.8773698

>>8773694
My observation is that someone who is an amateur is trying to teach me how to do something, and simultaneously being very bad at it.

>> No.8773707

>>8773698
Do you have any tips on how to make poses more interesting or what would be more suitable?

>> No.8773710

>>8773707
That's the thing. In most cases, the idea of "posing" is bullshit. If there's an iconic pose for the character, by all means do it. But generally speaking, the best photos are ones where the cosplayer looks comfortable and natural.

>> No.8773718

>>8773707
The photographer's job is to direct the cosplayer into a position that makes for a great shot, but is also lit well, looks natural, and is NOT BORING. Standing straight up with the legs spread is not interesting. With the amount of images available to look at, why should I look at this one?

>> No.8773748
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>>8771553
Not original anon here but agreeing with him.
In most of these pics, there's no rule of third and the character is more on the 3/4 or 4/5 of the pic (what matters is the middle of the coser's face)
-> lot of empty, useless space ; breaks dynamics.

In the Fruits Basket one, the guy is standing so straight it doesn't feel he's getting carried by the girl (she has a dynamic pose, on a vanishing point, her hair flies, this part is great).

Don't forget a rule of thirds is ON THE THIRDS of a pic, not the fourth. And a third is fucking close to the center.

>> No.8773774

>>8763044

I know jack shit about photography, but I really love the enviroment in this one.

I can see a RPG adventure party walking past any moment, going on great adventures.

>> No.8773779
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How far >>8763044 is from the thirds.

Also other fill only a single third. Rule of thirds is "fill as many important points as possible, so the eye will be guided reading the pic". Here eye is guided to 50 % void.

>> No.8773785

>>8773779
I don't think "person in the wild" photos need to follow the rule of thirds as much as pure portraiture -- breaking it conveys a person being tiny in comparison to their surroundings.

>> No.8773869

>>8773710
Mm, I think it depends on what you're going for in the photo. Certainly there's something to be said for adding drama by adding realistic tension like in >>8773748, especially if you want to go for more of a "cinematic" type photo.

>> No.8774535

this is a pretty cool thread

>> No.8774623
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I'm going to dump a few basic photos from my collection of other people's engagement and wedding photos. I'm a cosplayer not a photographer, but these are some pictures that I've come across and liked.

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>>8774623

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>>8774626

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>>8774628

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>>8774629

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>>8774629
this is not a duplicate reply

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>>8774632
Oh wait I guess it was a duplicate reply.

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>>8774644

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>>8774647
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>> No.8774654
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High-angled shots where the model is looking up

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>>8774653

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>>8774654

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>>8774657

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>>8774656

>> No.8774794

Plz stop with wedding pics. You can relate to them because pro photographers shoot weddings just for making a living out of it and they usually don't give a shit.
Classic composition, easy emotional clichés (sunset, foreground blur, vanishing points). Great to see 2 or 3 sometimes to remember the basics, but twenty of them in a cosplay thread is getting boring.

On the other hand >>8774654 is really great.
The colors, the flattering high-angle, the perfect rule of thirds (the violin, the joined hands, the music sheet and the rose are each on the 4 power points). Real good shit there anon.

>> No.8774803

>>8774623
these photos are trash and your taste is trash.

>> No.8774810

>>8774623
Photographers: don't pull this bullshit with your watermark. Small, 50% opacity, and in an inconspicuous corner is all you need.

>> No.8774819

>>8774794
>>8774803
It's safe basic bitch photography for a thread about safe basic bitch photography, sempai.

>> No.8774884

>>8774819
There are some good photos here, but essentially, this thread is full of some of the most boring photos known to man. Especially the wedding shots.

>> No.8774912

>>8774884
I can't disagree that it's boring, but most cosplay photographers would improve if they could reliably turn out safe pictures like these.

>> No.8774951

>>8774912
Listen, with the avalanche of tutorials, books, support groups, and great examples of master-level photography, if you're still turning out shit photos in 2015 (really 2016), you need to just sell your camera.

>> No.8778845

>>8774951
If you're not sure, just look up photo by Anna Fischer, Martin Wong, BMZ, Beethy, Elysium, Dave Yang, and Jason Chau for some ideas on great photography! These guys are constantly featured on Kotaku!

>> No.8778853

>>8774884
yes, that is the point of bread and butter - it looks nice but nothing special. this isn't amazing cosplay shots, this is the ones that will always work out

>>8778845
>constantly featured on Kotaku
>plskillyourself.png

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>>8778845
>Constantly featured on kotaku

>> No.8782472

>>8774794
I agree, they bore me whenever I see them on my Fb feed.

>> No.8787364

gerroffa page 10 ya swallycog

>> No.8787370

>>8774951
CURRENT YEAR

>> No.8791022

>>8787370
NOT ANYMORE FUCKFACE

>> No.8791031

>>8791022
Yeah, now we get to have new opinions!

You waited two days to post that? Good show!

>> No.8791326

Posting here because there's no other photography thread.

Ive only recently gotten into cosplay, but I have some costumes that I'm pretty proud of, and I know hallway shots don't do them justice. Ive never had a session with a professional (or even a hobby) photographer, and Im always too shy to look for one. I guess I'm just afraid that I'll be awkward and wont know how to pose?

So, advice on doing a first photo session? Should I come up with ideas for shots beforehand? Will the photographer help me out with suggestions?

>> No.8791383

>>8773748
i want your blog because I feel like you artculate what I think.

>> No.8792524

>>8791326
Depends on the photographer. Do some research on what poses are iconic and/or acceptable for your character and their personality. The photog should help you with tweaking these poses to see if they will turn out right for their shooting style, but by no means should you expect them to do all the posing work for you.

>> No.8792532

>>8791326
>>8792524
Also depends on the experience the photographer has. A newer one won't have a better idea than you do on how to pose you. An experienced one will be able to give suggestions.

>> No.8793471

>>8791326
You can prepare some ideas but no need to come with very precise things. Let him some freedom on how he'll compose his pics.
Basically, he may ask you what the character's personality or what's his role in the story, so be prepared to sum up.
He might just suggest you a good-looking place and ask you to find a pose. Try to find some iconic poses, and prepare 4-5 poses that suit the character (cute poses for an idol, fighting poses for a fighter, etc.). Think about some standing poses, but also some sitting or lying, and you'll be good to go very soon.

Last, accessories are GREAT.
Even if it's not exactly the same as in the anime / comic / whatever, try to bring accessories. A book if your character is a bookworm, some cellphone if she's a gossip girl, and so on.
You're not used to pose just like that, but having an accessory will make you a lot more comfortable and give ideas to the photographer.

With all of that you'll get at least ~10 good shots even with the dumbest photographer.

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>>8774659
this photo is great

>> No.8794573

>>8792524
>>8792532
>>8793471
Awesome, thank you so much! I have friends who have been cosplaying for longer than myself, so they're going to try and introduce me to some of their photographer friends next time we go to a con. Hopefully I can come back with some nice photos!

>> No.8794583

>>8794208
That picture's a good start to something great. The only thing that's off to me is the comp. It has no real sense of movement like it seems to desire, and I think it's from the angle. Maybe from a lower point, and slightly from behind?

>> No.8794586

>>8791326
Don't look for a cosplay photographer. Shell out the dosh for a portrait/family photographer who has access to a studio. You won't have to worry about them being incompetent or unprofessional.

>> No.8799109

>>8774810
Most photographers are too insecure about people stealing their photos to not understand basic watermarking.

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>>8763469

>> No.8804450

Some really nice photos up in here.

>> No.8804736

This thread is fantastic, really really useful, thanks for all the uploads!