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>> No.8665639

>"ive kinda seen you already"
>"lol lemme think about it"

A sleaze and a sloot, nothin special.

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>> No.8665655

I saw the original post that those screens came with. I wouldn't side with Bui because I think he went about it the wrong way but I do realize the semi-magnification of an issue.

Personally, I think the whole "BuiSaysHawt" thing (he actually printed out stickers with that tag) is gross. It definitely doesn't help his case. I heard some pretty sketch things but since that was just rumor I wouldn't count that against him, but goddamn does he not know how to act like a proper photog.

Nude selfies for a shoot with a tank top on? Bringing it up and pushing it instead of letting the model decide?

Plus, unless he's talking about the nude shoots he's done, having nudes of the person's friends in the same convo where he said he'd "delete them"? Super inconsistent.

>> No.8665659

>>8665655
Other people are posting their conversations too. Things are escalating fast

>> No.8665660

hey i just shared that too ! yeah total creep don't believe anything !

>> No.8665661

Waiting to see what he says. Not like it matters because people's minds are already made up.

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im sorry this happend to you !

>> No.8665687

>>8665659

I know. The thing I wanna be careful is not headhunting Richard. Like I said I don't side with him. I actually find him disgusting. But for the most part it sounds like he really wants clients and wants things his way. Not sure the level of perviness, but it definitely comes across as such.

The underage photo shit I haven't seen evidence of so I won't hop on that bandwagon, but I'd be careful about the difference between awareness and witch hunting. I've seen some shares sound really violent and damaging when in reality it should just be:

"This guy is being super suspicious and I encourage other models and cosplayers to avoid letting a photog make you feel uncomfortable. If they say something wrong, don't be afraid to talk back."

>> No.8665718

>>8665659

what people?
don't keep it to yourself. post caps

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>>8665718
Not him, but I got you mang

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>>8665743

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>>8665745

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>>8665687
Underage proof. The girl in OP's caps was 17 at the time.

>> No.8665755

this is so obviously dudes looking for fap material/conquests. why would anyone go along with this? their reasons for needing nudes as bullshit.

>> No.8665767

>>8665753

I saw this after I made my comment. Thought it was kinda funny how quickly everything is undoing for him. Not that I thought the underage thing was a lie but I'm careful to believe statements without something to back it up, y'know?

I really hope more cosplayers can tell someone to just stop if they're saying shit to make them uncomfortable. Hopefully it'll put a serious damper on photogs using their popularity or clout/standing in the community to make someone feel afraid to speak out. Not naming other 'togs, but I know that some of them out there like to pretend they know how the business goes and then use that to put their clients in a position of "forced" agreement.

Also, major kudos to these cosplayers/models-to-be for speaking out and not adding a hidden agenda. They're speaking out directly of the problem and encouraging others to be brave not because of "Photogs are creeps eww" or some stupid shit, but instead "Stand up for yourselves and don't be afraid to say no!"

>> No.8665768

Wow, how horrible.
That is so stupid, a naked photo for trust?

I hope he goes doesn't the drain!
I'm sorry you women deal with this all the time

>> No.8665773

>>8665755
EhhHHHH people can be very naive.

Especially underage cosplay girls who might be flattered by the attention.

Did all these people eventually consent and send them nudes or are they just posting about the exchanges?

>> No.8665783

>>8665753
That aint proof that he knew she was underage, that's just someone just typed up..I can also type, hey you just raped me...

>> No.8665789

mega awkward all around. since it's nudes without the head i don't even see the point of it and i sure as hell wouldn't ask cosplayers after seeing all the drama they put out

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>>8665783
Responding to bait but okay I'll humor you.

This is one of the screenshots from that girl and the last message was sent Jan 27 of this year. On the girl's profile her birthday is Jan 28, 1997. So she was one day away from being 18 during this exchange as it so happens.

Yeah it doesn't show his acknowledgement of her age and it's possible for her to have lied about her birthday on Facebook and the day before her 18th birthday thing is weird. Just presenting my findings.

>> No.8665809

>>8665783
Considering she's currently 18, it's not hard to believe she was 17 when the exchange occurred.
This stuff is all public information nowadays with the internet, a professional would do their research. Or better yet, ask the girl her age before asking for nudes.

>> No.8665812

>>8665783
Still massive disrespect and indecency for the Photog's part. The thing here though was that she originally wasn't going to release this since she thought she was the only one he did this to, things only changed because 1)She didn't like the fact that Bui was well embedded to California's cosplay community since she didn't like the fact that Bui could possibly be doing this to someone else.

It's clearly a pattern, the question is, who fell for it?

>> No.8665817

Here's your "literally who?"

>> No.8665820

>>8665817
Richard T Bui, norcal cosplay photog

>> No.8665821

It's almost like you're saying he forced you to send them. Make adult decisions and stand by them. No one can force you to do anything. If you don't have a professional profile like most models do then he wont know what your strengths are. I shot with him NUDE and i can tell you this that he was the most respectful and professional photographer i had the pleasure of shooting with. If you're off put by something that is very common in the modelling industry (nude photography) then reconsider what level you are operating at- because everything you're doing is not professional.

>> No.8665822

I'm pretty disappointed in Richard over this. I've known him for quite a while, not very well but well enough to have done things with his group outside cons a few times and the like, was invited to join his group when he founded it (but declined), and he always seemed like a decent enough guy. There's simply too much evidence here to ignore, and I'm pretty damn disappointed in him.

Not only is it creepy, it's downright stupid, how could he possibly think acting like that could stay secret in this community? It also is another stab to those of us who do cosplay photography and don't attempt to leverage into lewd shit, which seems to be a smaller and smaller number these days.

I pretty much quit cosplay photography when I broke up with my last cosplayer ex, and it largely was because I couldn't stand the thought of having people think I was a guy like this because I was a single male photographer. This whole thing just makes me glad I did, but at the same time is depressing because it makes it that much harder for my friends who are still shooting, or for me if I ever decide I want to become active in it again.

>>8665755
This is actually a quite well-known photographer, and the driving force behind the "Cosplay Photographers" group that was a big deal for a while, not just some thirsty random guy.

>> No.8665824

The fact of the matter is, Bui is a professional. He does many photoshoots outside of cosplay. He should not be asking amateur, young, impressionable models to send him 'clinical' nudes. I'm 100% positive he doesn't do this with his business clients.

>> No.8665826

Since were bringing this up, can we bring up how minh lu has nude photos of her too? and she was underage as well...

>> No.8665830

>>8665821
Fuck off Briana. We all know you're happy with how disappointed your parents are. You're 22 so you're legally allowed to fuck up your life by doing porn. A 17 year old isn't.

>> No.8665832

>>8665830
lol im a dude btw

>> No.8665833

>>8665832
>im a dude
You look like one Briana but you're not one.

>> No.8665836

>>8665821
This isn't the modelling industry, and cosplayers who think it is are delusional. This is a hobby for relatively normal people with lives outside of it.

As a fellow photographer who has and would never pull any shit like this, I'm extremely upset about the damage this does to those of us who actually try to be professional and who do photography because we enjoy photography, not because we want fap material.

>> No.8665839

>>8665833
who the fuck is briana

>> No.8665841

>>8665749
This guy is a fucking creep. I don't know anything about him or any of his drama, but this is SO unreasonable, unprofessional, and creepy. I have been modeling for many years and have never had a photographer be so blatantly fucking creepy. "Needs to see your body type that determine poses" what the actual fuck. Girls, please don't ever let someone talk you into something like this. This guy just wants nudes and he's being a manipulative shitlord about it.

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>> No.8665845

>>8665821
The fact of the matter is these girls weren't out to get nude photos. Instead they were subjected to uncomfortable grooming behavior. Bear in mind these are young and inexperienced girls who could be more easily pressured into doing this sort of stuff even if they don't want to. What he did was skeevy and completely unnecessary. Having nude photos is not necessary to becoming a professional model.

>> No.8665847

>>8665845
so i assume that youve worked in the professional modeling photography industry.

>> No.8665848

>>8665821

Yes, because asking for nudes for a shoot that doesn't involve nudity makes sense.

>> No.8665851

Damn, this is just annoying and it pisses me off that people like this exist. Not that I am implying that photography is easy.. But I think the cosplayer is definitely more stressed. I think photographers should go out of their way to assist the cosplayer.

I mean, without the cosplayer, what will they take pics of? Bridges? Black and white shots of lost gloves in the winter? Some other hipster shit?

Sorry, I'm pretty upset.

>> No.8665855

>>8665847
Regardless of what is necessary in the professional modeling industry, these girls are hobby cosplayers who I assume are not aiming to be anything but that. They want decent photos of them in their cosplay and they shouldn't have to be wary of every photographer they come across. Incidents like this and others in the past just create more tension between the already strained relationship of hobby cosplayers and photographers.

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>>8665833
that's definitely not my post behind me and im definitely briana.

>> No.8665858

>>8665847
What difference does it make if I have or have not?

This is not the way you go about asking for nudes.

>> No.8665859

>>8665822
hi max

>> No.8665860

>>8665847
I have. For many years. This is not a thing that happens. No model would ever need to send nude selfies to a photographer, ever. It makes zero sense.

>> No.8665864

>>8665860
perhaps you are right. but it is still very unprofessional to post that on social media like it wouldnt cut ties within the community. now every photographer that work with these people will not want to shoot with them for fear that they too will be scrutinitzed

>> No.8665865

>>8665864
Good

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It's bait vs stupidity

>> No.8665871

>>8665864

Are you serious?

As a photographer I would still work with this person and make sure I respect their boundaries. Hell, maybe I'd take extra precaution not to say anything wrong.

Are you seriously implying that someone who was made uncomfortable by a photographer is wrong for speaking out and now is expected to not be worked with for expressing and calling out an issue?

This is literally what causes the problem with cosplayers not speaking out against skeevy photogs and why there are photogs that like to throw their power/popularity around to pressure people into being silent.

>> No.8665872

>>8665864
Where else are they going to share this? The point is to cut this skeezeball out of the community. And I'm pretty sure these cosplayers aren't out to indict all photographers as long as they don't do blatantly disgusting shit like this. Cosplayers understand very well the need for photographers and vice versa.

>> No.8665876

>>8665871
yeah its wrong to call them out in front of everyone. if i called you a thief and you clearly were not-- the fact is that you have been accused when it didnt need to be public. this is a more serious matter that could have been deescalated by a simple "i dont feel comfortable with this so i will respectfully decline"

>> No.8665878

The fact that it took people this long to realize that he's a borderline pedo.. It's mind boggling.

>> No.8665879

>>8665856
thats either dave or anthony i cant tell

>> No.8665880

>>8665864
What >>8665871 said. Also you sound like either A. An idiot. Or B. The dude in this situation or a friend of his. There is literally no excuse for behavior like this, especially when it's not a one time thing. I have no sympathy for this douchebag.

>> No.8665882

What the fuck, who think it's okay to ask for nudes for a non nude shoot or just in general? He'll never have a reason to need nudes from anyone. I like how he says he'll "delete them right after" but the offers to show her 3 popular cosplayers nudes. Fuck man, what a creep.

Let's assume for whatever fucking reason he HAS to have them, a bikini picture would have been perfectly okay and fine. He doesn't need to see her tits or vag for any reason.

>> No.8665883

>>8665878
See?! the fact that someone said it now people will think it! do you want him to lose his daughter?! Stop saying things that have either ridiculous notions or things that have nothing to do with the morality of the direct issue

>> No.8665887

>>8665878
There's so many photographers that fall under this category. I can name at least two more I keep watch on FB.

>> No.8665889

>>8665876
>>8665883
God, would you just shut up.

>> No.8665891

>>8665887

name 'em

>> No.8665892

>>8665882
that i can agree with. but he wanted her to "grow". the industry looks for models that can do what the industry wants. if the model can provide evidence that she/he can be comfortable with doing nudes then they are more likely to choose the model that can give more than the rest.

>> No.8665893

>>8665876
This is America, he is a professional.
Professionals and businesses get scrutinized daily on the internet by the public, it's the right of the public to do so. People can interpret the evidence however they want. The girls said nothing that wasn't shown in the screenshots.

>> No.8665895

>>8665876
Ignoring the underage issue, a professional photographer (who is not in the adult or modeling business) asked specifically girls for nudes AND pushed them saying it was for "trust" issues.

>> No.8665897

>>8665892
These are hobbiest cosplayers, not the modeling industry. Jfc.

>> No.8665899

I'm more surprised that people havent addressed the 'cosplay' section in anon-ib.net. these poeple are the real skeeves

>> No.8665900

>>8665892
the only thing he wanted to grow was his dick. This is not how modeling works please stop posting.

>> No.8665901

>>8665897
Yes, but Bui runs a business.
http://www.buiphotos.com/

Wonder if he asks couples getting married to provide him nude photots.

>> No.8665902

>>8665900
if im talking about the issue and as long as i talk about the issue- then there's nothing the mods will do against me.

>> No.8665904

I just noticed that he says "we" in some of his posts. That really makes me wonder who else was involved.

>>8665892
I don't know the girls this happened too all that well, but I don't think any of them are trying to be part of "the industry" or get chosen for nudes. They're cosplayers. They want to be photographed IN costumes. How does being known as willing to do nudes benefit them, except to attract a bunch of Terry Richardson wannabes?

>>8665887
I'm always terrified that I'm going to be seen as within this category. I don't think I've ever done anything to deserve it, but I still get paranoid that something I do will be taken the wrong way.

>> No.8665908

>>8665876

Except that it hasn't been that simple as many people are saying Richard says the same shit with everyone. People decline or get pressured and he lays on the pressure more with inconsistent promises.

Not to disagree with you wholly. God help me if someone calls me out for something they made up. But I take precautions with everybody and don't put myself in a position where I can be outed for imagination so easily.

>> No.8665910

>>8665892
>>8665897
THIS IS NOT A THING THAT HAPPENS IN THE MODELING INDUSTRY.
For fucks sake. This is unprofessional and completely unnecessary. In the modeling industry girls have portfolios of their work and if they don't THE HAVE POLARIODS IN BIKINIS to show their body type. No one is sending nudes to photographers, this doesn't happen. This guy is just a creep.

>> No.8665911

>>8665908
It's one thing to ask, but the fact he's actually pressuring these girls makes it sleezy as fuck. Especially because he "promises" to delete them later.

>> No.8665912

>>8665901
Top fucking kek

>> No.8665913

>>8665899

I haven't seen that section but I assume it is filled with cosplayers that either made cosplay that is revealing and/or consenting adult conrent cosplayers.

Voyeurism is a weird fetish but it can't be completely stopped so what can ya do?

>> No.8665919

>>8665911

Kinda unsure why you're responding to me since I 100% agree with you but whatever fam I like you and I hope you don't deal with shitty photogs and terrible excuses.

>> No.8665921

>>8665911

Unless you're backing my point up then you're cool and I appreciate it.

>> No.8665922

>>8665919
I meant to just add to your argument.
But man. I hope more posts get made. So far, I've seen just two cosplayers posting about this.

>> No.8665923

funniest shit is that people like EBK, Darth Ryu, BlizzardTerrak are chiming in about it. lol like you guys have creepy stories about you too

>> No.8665924

>>8665892
This is blatantly unprofessional. There's plenty of other ways the industry asks in an appropriate manner for nude shots. His messages are so downright manipulative. "Send me nudes, we will offer you our benefits. Send me nudes, you're giving me your trust."

I'm not saying that this sort of thing doesn't exist in other skeezeball modeling agencies either, but the fact remains is that he isn't stating to her anything about offering to become a full-fledged model in an industry that is separate from cosplay.

>> No.8665925

>>8665923
I'd like to believe they're more unaware of their actions and just generally not very socially aware people. I've heard stories about them but nothing quite like this where the photographer is well aware of their actions.

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>>8665922
Oh there's more. This one was in the comments under Vickie's photos.

>> No.8665928

it's funny, everybody in this thread probably knows each other IRL and on FB etc, but we're all acting like we don't here. /cgl/ is a strange place.

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>>8665927
2/2

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>>8665929
And another girl in the comments section.

>> No.8665935

"Why would I need your nude pics when I already have the sweetest pussy in the world? My daughter's"

>> No.8665936

>>8665927
>>8665929
Boom

>>8665928
>/cgl/ is a strange place.

Same can be said with /m/, /o/, /jp/, and /a/.

>> No.8665938

>>8665922

It's coo

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>>8665923
This is the best part for me. If these people are the ones calling you out, you know you've fucked up bad.

>>8665928
Isn't anonymity fun?

>> No.8665941

>>8665922
To be honest it's going to be another passing fad that people don't actually care about but only pretend to care about. They'll care as long as there is a thread on cgl or someone on their facebook feed talking about it. We've seen how many other fads there have been about people caring this year and every year where random people who never seen the guy will post about it when they aren't involved/never would be involved and just want to get their bit of social anger in to show that grrr I'm angry at the injustices of this world! I'm doing my part! I'm socially conscious!

>> No.8665943

>>8665940
anonymity is awesome, especially since there are no IDs like on 2chan

>> No.8665944

>>8665879
its me dave.

>> No.8665946

>>8665941
That's literally the case with everything. It's hard to care about everything 24/7. No one cares about anything until someone dies or a big deal is made out of it (whether or not it is).
Doesn't mean nobody should not do anything.

>> No.8665948

>>8665941

This particular issue got a lot of shares compared to the other photog call outs I've seen (like one about EMCP). I am banking on at least Richard being at least affected, either as an impact on his clients coming to him or people being aware and the perpetual air of con creep photog stench perpetuated by cgl and the cos community until he eventually goes into hiding...

>> No.8665949

I saw a post on facebook not naming names, but mentioning cutting ties with a friend because of "allegations" and such. It sounded pretty serious. I thought - "who do I know that this person is affiliated with who could possibly have done something bad" My first gut thought was "Richard Bui", and after a little digging I was confirmed.

Needless to say I'm disappointed, but also not that surprised.

>> No.8665950

>>8665879
nah jk its me anthony

>> No.8665951

So which other photogs are going to be called out now?

>>8665923 mentioned some, but tbh they haven't had supreme creeper stories.

>> No.8665952

>>8665864
Nah, normal photogs who just want to shoot cosplay aren't going to be put off by this, because what's there to scrutinize, exactly? That they want to shoot with someone at all? This guy is going out of his way to get nudes from girls, for basically no reason. A bikini or one-piece swimsuit shot, or even bra/underwear, would establish body type just as well as nude shots so even that excuse is bunk.

>> No.8665953

This guy wants to be the next Terry Richardson, huh? Richardson has so much influence on which upcoming celebs get noticed in the industry, and he's fucked tons of stupid, impressionable girls in exchange for a shoot. This Bui dude thinks he has the influence to do the same, lmao.

But, if dumb bitches keep submitting to these guys, they will keep doing it. Welcome to life, cupcakes.

>inb4 some girl sends him nudes then cries "I was forced!!" later on

>> No.8665954

>>8665948

Yes I meant to use at least twice. To say that I'd hope at least one person receives the impact on a level that affects them enough to care about what they did. Preferably Richard himself.

>> No.8665955

>>8665946
What my deal is that there's so many people who are going to give zero fucks about whatever they're getting angry about right now when you fast forward two weeks when the next one rolls around and they decide to jump on that train instead. it's socially angry: bandwagon edition.

>> No.8665956

>>8665951
EBK's definitely had stories about how he's tried to get into people's pants or some shit

>> No.8665958

>>8665949
lol I know exactly who you are talking about who posted the cutting ties thing. shows you who are your friends and who isn't. like damn if one of my friends had shit like this thrown at him I'd talk with him before throwing him under the bus

>> No.8665959

>>8665953

Interesting to note, I don't recall seeing a post from a girl agreeing to shoot and then calling Richard out.

I may be tired to remember though. but the few that did work with him and fell for the bait seemed to either defend him or just sound disappointed.

>> No.8665960

>>8665951
Unless some other photog has left damning evidence like this I doubt we'll see a rerun. We have creeper photographer threads all the time and they've never escalated beyond cgl because of lack of evidence and the comparative lack of severity in the crimes.

>> No.8665963

>>8665959
He's a good photographer. Dunno if this nudes thing is just recent shit or what. I get the feeling people are like "bro, this isn't real, right?" about it because he's had good relations with pretty much everyone in the community before this came out.

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>>8665929
>Tells every girl no one ever sees it
>Offers to show potential girls the pictures he promised to never show

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I was stupid enough to shoot with him more than once.

>> No.8665968

>>8665960
I've heard of the shady photag stories, but this is the first time I've seen someone so outspoken on it. I hope this will show cosplayers to speak out if they ever get something similar from other photographers.

>> No.8665971

>>8665966
I'm really hoping he wasn't asking for a close up of your pubic hair.

>> No.8665972

>>8665971
that's what it sounds like, lmao

>>8665966
okay so given what is going on, what happened during the shoot (clothed? nude?) and were the photos good?

>> No.8665973

>>8665971

For some godforsaken reason he was.

>> No.8665977

>>8665966
holy fucking shit, "I want to see how the hair grows"

What the fuck does that have to do with posing. This gets more and more golden lol.

>> No.8665979

>>8665966
Jesus fucking christ

>> No.8665981

>>8665966
What does the direction of your hair growing have to do with how your body will pose in a photo shoot?!

>> No.8665982

>>8665977
it sounds incredibly retarded and reminds me of a study that said that scams are meant to sound as outlandish as possible because they're only supposed to work on people dumb enough to fall for them, outlandish or not

>> No.8665983

>>8665963

My first impression was jim handing out stickers saying "BuiSaysHawt" and not shooting anyone.

It reeked of clout and riding on his own popularity with something that would normally make any other photog labeled a creep. I was immediately not impressed.

This was a while ago, and surprise surprise the rumors of him and his team doing something skeevy during a nude shoot was circulating norcal.

I guess I never had faith in the man to begin with so my perspective differs from yours. I am curious as to your interactions that made you see him in a different light than I did.

No joke, I admit I am judging him super hard over hearing nothing but shit. But there's a reason people sound surprised and it would set some perspective understand why that is.

>> No.8665984

>>8665965
Not to defend him, but his example would probably be the "clinical" image he showed the other girl. At least, I hope so.

>> No.8665985

>>8665972

Nude for much longer than I was comfortable with and poses I was definitely not ok with. But I'm a passive person and I was younger and an absolute idiot.Photos weren't too great. And from what I've heard from other people telling me, he's shown them to others. But I don't have definitive proof on that.

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>>8665973

>> No.8665988

>he's had good relations with pretty much everyone in the community before this came out.

He pretty much rivals Ding in terms of popularity. I see his name in Rice's huge ass aftercon parties all the time

>> No.8665989

mods, please see this thread to the end and not mod/delete it. Very important that the community understands the importance of speaking up against a photog disrespecting boundaries.

Yeah this thread is essentially shittalk hour but it is kinda important for now.

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>> No.8665992

>>8665966
Girl, is he really to blame if your reaction is not to tell him to fuck up but go along and act all coy about it?
Like all of these girls are just trying to get the fame and dosh.
It's nice to give out a warning about this stuff, maybe people out there really think they have to send a photographer nudes for preparation. But it's not like they weren't going along with it for "we help our friends lot/shooting them/marketing them/I even turn over prints rights to the ones I like (...) so they can (...) keep all the money"

>> No.8665995

>>8665973
>>8665985
Holy crap anon...I have no words.

I'm sorry that you went through this.

>> No.8665996

>>8665821
>very common in the modelling industry
two things

cosplay is not the modelling industry

asking for nude "selfies" before a shoot is NOT common in the modelling industry

>> No.8665997

>>8665991
I feel bad for Darth sometimes tbh. I think he's just honestly very socially unaware.

>> No.8665999

>>8665966
Maybe you can share the messages on his page? Or make a new fb and post with your name blocked out.

>> No.8666001

>>8665992
No. Stop victim blaming. She was young and didn't know how to handle the situation and sounds like she thoroughly regrets it. He pressured her like he pressured all these other girls coming out. This is in no way okay.

>> No.8666003

>>8665992
He is to blame for touching me to "adjust my poses" when I kept saying im not okay with it.

I was young, passive, and stupid. He took advantage of that. Looking back yes there's a lot I should have done differently, but that doesn't change the fact he was fully aware of what he was doing and did it to multiple girls.

>> No.8666011

I GOT ASKED THIS TOO!!!!!!

I told him I wasn't interested in doing a nude photoshoot, but yet he still wanted a 360 nude thing because 'it will give me a good idea of what angles will work for you'. NO. YOU DONT NEED TO SEE PEOPLE NAKED TO KNOW WHAT ANGLES WOULD WORK FOR THEM!

I am SO glad someone else came forward with this because Ive been keeping it to myself for the longest time. He asked me back in April and I said no.

>> No.8666014

>>8666001
About which of those posts are you talking? Obviously if you're not a legal adult you probably aren't allowed to consent to this stuff nor is anyone allowed to ask you for it like that.
But fuck off with the victim blaming bullshit. If you sell the image of your body for fame and money, you're not the victim of anything but your own desires.

>> No.8666017

>>8666014
> fame and money

That is never mentioned anywhere in this thread, you autistic?

>> No.8666019

>>8666014
Dude, doesn't matter. I am another person who he has tried to come at with this stuff. He has no right to do that. When you ask someone to do a lingerie shoot you don't try to pressure them into sending nudes as means to know what angles would look good.

Even I refused and I was told that it was important as a photographer to know the best sides of the model. No. Fuck you. It is NOT your job to tell me to take off my clothes for your 'artist' photographs. You are trying to be 'After Dark' and you never will be.

>> No.8666020

>>8665821

The funny thing is, that in the modeling industry people wouldn't ask for nudes, especially not from minors. Not even for a covered nude shot. The agency has a picture of you in underwear/bikini and that's what photographer has to guess with, unless something more revealing is already in your portfolio.

Of course there are some exceptions:
-pornografie
-some fetish photography, which is fine but don't compare that to everyday modeling
-shady companies that eventually force models into pornografie.

But outside of that, nobody asks. Especially not for clothes covered shots. You could even loss your contract with doing that.

>> No.8666021

>>8666014
So manipulation doesn't exist?
There are plenty of horror stories of models that ended up getting into the porn industry because of manipulation.
And how many cosplayers are actually cosfamous? I'm pretty sure most of them just wanted a cool picture. Sure, it's their fault for some creep ass harassing them for nudes.

>> No.8666024

>>8666021
This

>> No.8666026

If he made the solicitations of anyone underage, then he's broken the law for solicitation of of a minor, or enticing a minor, depending on which state you're in. For the adults, sure, he hasn't broken laws, however he's deeply broken all established professional ethics when working with models. As such, the community at large should and is being made aware of it so they can avoid him, or at the least engage him knowing full well his background. We've now got examples of his behavior back to 2010, so it's definitely a long-term con he's been pulling.

>> No.8666030

>>8665755
Right? You can figure out someone's body type when they have tight-fitting clothes on, too. Actual model agencies don't require nudes up front even when their models end up doing nude shoots. This shit is skeevy as hell.

>> No.8666032

Whether what he did was acceptable or not is a matter of debate apparently, but what's clear is that a majority of cosplayers don't find it appropriate.

We need to make sure that people like this are not welcome in the community. For one, we need to protect cosplayers from this kind of stuff, and secondly, those of us who are photographers need to make it clear that we do not accept this kind of stuff and don't encourage it in our side of the community.

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Dude.. He really escalated in pressuring people compared to what he asked of me.. I'm really sorry. Ill post some of my screens too.

>> No.8666034

>>8666017
He says that to coax one girl into it >>665637
I think it's pretty obvious that's why you would want to shoot with him or am I missing a reason?

>>8666019
He has all the right to do that. Just as you have the right to refuse and warn other girls.

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>>8666033

>> No.8666036

>>8666034
Fucked up my quote. >>8665637

>> No.8666037

>>8666033
The hole just gets deeper and deeper

>> No.8666040

>>8666034

Because he actually takes nice photos when he sets up non-con shoots.

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>>8666034
Its not okay to just go to a girl and ask for nudes and pressure them into it. Are you a fucking idiot or are you a fucking idiot? Especially in the way he handled this girl. He really turned up the heat on his pressure towards asking for them from people who clearly aren't interested and whats worst he is asking a cosplayer who is still new and DOES want to get their name out there, but telling them that this will improve their portfolio and help them grow isn't okay.

>> No.8666043

>>8666026
Sad that it took this long for people to start speaking up about this skeezy behavior.

>> No.8666044

>>8666033
Asking to bend and everything holy shit I'm sorry he said this shit to you anon.

>> No.8666046

>>8666043
Its because he is a huge name in the NorCal area. He is friends with other photographers and I wouldn't doubt some cosplayers were worried that they wouldnt get shot by people if Richard said something about them.

He knows some big name photogs. He could probably influence them and frankly thats a sad thought for someone who works hard on an outfit, but because Richard said something no one will shoot with you. You really have got to understand who he runs with.

>> No.8666050

He's a name people know. But let's be clear. There's NO photographer that's out there that if they didn't like a cosplayer, could influence more than 1 or 2 other photographers not to work with someone. it's a patently incorrect impression. not to say people don't think that. it's just not true.

>> No.8666051

Holy Fuck, how many more people have he tried to coerce?

"Hey, send me nudes, I can make you FAMOUS." And how has NO ONE reported this until now? Some of these messages are over 2-3 years old?

>> No.8666052

>>8666046
tbh there's enough photographers in California that even if he were to say something you'd wouldn't be able to shake a stick without hitting 10 other photographers

>> No.8666053

>>8666044
Compared to this girl I have had my run ins with nude modeling before, so the idea wasn't too unappealing, but after thinking about it, this isn't something I wanted just to throw my cosplay stuff out there. If people like my cosplay then Ill take photos of it with people I feel safe with whether CosplayDeviants style or fully clothed and in awesome shots and scenery. Thats why I didn't turn him down right away, but the further the conversation got and the more I thought about it.. I mean.. What photographer even asks to see nudes if you aren't even doing a nude shoot? Thats just not okay and thats when I realized this was pretty skeezy.

This cosplayer, however, doesn't do these types of things. Im old enough where I can make that decision, I have been there, tried different photography situations, but throwing this unwarrented pressure onto a minor of all people and telling her that he can build her career by seeing he naked? No.

I wasn't going to say anything because I have had people ask me for nudes and stuff before, but see the same person go after this girl? Not okay. Im speaking out about it and I don't give a fuck who Richard runs with.

>> No.8666055

>>8666051
Most of the people who were on the receiving end of these messages shrugged it off.

>> No.8666058

>>8666052
yeah true, but he knows all the "popular" "famous" photographers

I've always been confused about who he was, I knew he was affiliated with Cosplay Photographers but his facebook page is mostly cell phone selfies of him and people, how did he become so well known?

>> No.8666059

>>8666046
Well now I'm sure his "approval" isn't worth jack squat.

Lesson: If someone acts skeezy don't stay silent, they are probably doing it to others too. We all must lookout for each other. We must protect each other.

>> No.8666061

>>8666058
His name pops up in the cgl archives so he's certainly in people's radars. He does okay photographs and he's in almost every SoCal and NorCal con.

>> No.8666062

>>8666061
Do you think he's going to show his face at any up coming cons in California?

>> No.8666063

>>8666058
he ran it for a while and separated from them probably because they weren't doing shit. he was more active in the past and now mainly just hangs around at events with people not really shooting. he also organizers dinners after cons. they can get pretty big, like, 50-60 people but I think they've had even more than that recently

>> No.8666064

You know, another question that I feel like asking here is whether shooting with Richard ever made anybody famous at all. Sure, he worked with some well-known cosplayers, but as far as I know they were "famous" before shooting with him; I don't think he's been anybody's big break.

>> No.8666065

>>8666062
probably not. there's nothing left for him in this community so no reason to show up to hang out.

>> No.8666066

>>8666059
Yeah. Thats why I am also speaking out right now. I am used to people asking me for nudes because I did some cosplaydeviant stuff before so I just figured, "Eh. Another one. Whatever. Ill think about it", but then I declined because I didn't like the idea of it because I barely knew him also.

But to go to someone inexperienced, underage, and put it in their head that this is the only way to get your name out there? No. There are routes for everyone and nudity isn't the way for every single girl just to get noticed. It is for some people who are okay with sharing their bodies, but don't you dare tell someone inexperienced that this is the only way in the cosplay platform.

>>8666058
This. He does and in NorCal this means everything to new cosplayers. Especially new and talented ones who want nice photos because the big names TAKE NICE PHOTOS compared to a general photographer who thinks he is good just because he has a nice camera.

>> No.8666068

>>8666062
All cons should be warned about this guy to ban him before he even tries to attend.

>> No.8666070

>>8666068
was it coincidence that comikaze just made a post about blacklisting someone from all their events...?

>> No.8666073

>>8666070
has he ever been to comikaze? since it's not an anime event I don't think so

>> No.8666077

>>8666064
He has had no big breaks. The people he has shot are known in the California area, mostly NorCal, but thats pretty much it. However, us in the NorCal region know all these cosplayers. Most of us are all friend with each other because over here it is a pretty packed cosplay ring and you know who is who regardless of the photographer shooting you. Then you have the jockies who run with the big names in the cosplay photography circles and Richard is one of them.

>> No.8666078

>>8666066
>But to go to someone inexperienced, underage, and put it in their head that this is the only way to get your name out there?

What infuriates me is that she is actually not just a good cosplayer(she does really good fucking mecha shit) but she's a good person as well. I remember back in Fanime her and her sisters pretty recognized me just from my Facebook profile and said hi even when they never knew me before that, apparently I struck out because I could speak Bisaya(we're from the same region in the Philippines).

Along with her sisters, I was actually one of the persons she first talk to about being sexually harassed by the guy, and we were pretty much alarmed when we looked his stuff up on the cgl archives and all we got out of the past threads that featured him was that he was creepy, and nothing else. She had a really good idea that what happened to her was happening to someone else, and the only reason why she didn't blow the lid on it initially was because she wasn't sure if her hunch was true.

>> No.8666081

>>8666070
From the way they phrase it it sounds like it was something actively said by the person on one of their social media pages and I don't think that applies here unless they count Facebook in general as their social media site.

>> No.8666084

you can tell by someone's photography work if it is because they are interested in cosplay or just because they want to shoot females. it's disgusting to think about it especially for nude shoot because unless you're a renowned artist working for a project or for some editorial work, you'd just look like a photog with some weird fetishism

>> No.8666086

>>8666014
I'll fuck off with the victim blaming claims when you stop doing it. Taking advantage of someone's naïveté which causes the victim to later regret it is not the fault of the victim.

It is not the victim's fault.

>> No.8666087

>>8666081
oh yeah that makes more sense. It was just so weirdly timed that I made the connection in my head

>> No.8666089

>>8666084
nude art is actually fairly prevalent. not as much as clothed photography, obviously, but there's quite a few people who do it.

>> No.8666093

>>8666084
Where's the line, though? I'm pretty sure Bui is well over it, but still...

I used to be a cosplay photographer, not a famous or popular one, but the people who shot with me loved my work and photos I took were very popular. A lot of why I pulled out of the scene is that it became obvious to me that I was mostly shooting because I liked taking pictures of cute girls, and the climate in the community is such that that seems to not be acceptable. I never did nudes or lingerie stuff, never pressured anybody for anything, but I still felt like after getting out of the relationship I was in with a cosplayer, I couldn't completely separate my photography from my attraction to some of the subjects I was working with, and once that line was blurry, I didn't feel ethically right doing it anymore.

>> No.8666099

The shit he says almost sounds identical to something you would find in a "Signs that Someone is a Sociopath" guide. I don't know how some of you can act like the shit he's saying is excusable.

>> No.8666101

there's definitely a lot of photog out there that only want to take pictures of females. Heck, some even get a dslr just so they look /legit/ so people would shoot with them. It's just worrying because a lot of cosplayer starting out doesn't know and most can't even differentiate shit dslr like rebel series lmao

>> No.8666105

I just found another victim, but I will not post her stuff without permission from Facebook to here. So that makes 3 since this girl has come out about it.

>> No.8666107

>>8666105
I dunno if you've been paying attention or not, but it's been much more than just 3. His conversation alone already insinuates there were 3 in the first place.

>> No.8666108

>>8666099
Or To Catch a Predator

>> No.8666110

I thought this was old and common knowledge. I don't even know him and I knew about this. No?

>> No.8666111

>>8666105
>>8666107
I've seen at least 3 on FB that weren't in the thread here.

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>>8666107
I just noticed. I am very selective with my friends on my Facebook, so I only had the one victim, but I was just on her Facebook page and I scrolled down her wall and there it was. Multiple girls and multiples of them being underage with caps of him asking for nudes. This is NOT okay. I am mortified.

>> No.8666113

>>8666093
lol ikr. I exclusively shoot other cute girls because why the fuck would I want to shoot things I don't find aesthetically pleasant? it's not like they are paying me so I don't have to take all comers. it's like if all you wanted to do was cosplay cute girls and someone gets on your ass for not wanting to cosplay the fatass character

>>8666110
he was the pervy uncle kind of guy but no one knew he was asking people for nudes

>> No.8666114

>>8666112
I'm not selective with my facebook friends and I have none of the people on my list. I've only seen a couple of people post about it and it was in public convention groups

>> No.8666115

there's nothing wrong with wanting to shoot just a certain type, even I only shoot with good cosplayers. BUT your work would show whether or not you think about the characters, the theme, the series, the story etc. we're talking about cosplay photography here, you'd want to show the story and character the cosplayer is portraying from the photo you took an not just anyone in a costume. Most photographer in the community here is the latter, and there's nothing wrong with just taking normal pictures, there's some instances where you just like taking pictures and your friends are coincidentally cosplayers needing pictures too... it's just that some people do use 'photographer' tag to get to know and make use of somebody.

>>8666093 man I thank you for being ethical about it.

>>8666089
ah yeah sure of course I am aware about it it's just that we're talking about cosplay photography here so it seemed like these certain photographers just want to take pictures of females in sexy costumes.

>> No.8666118

>>8666026
>then he's broken the law for solicitation of of a minor
yooo so could he theoretically lose custody of his daughter?

>> No.8666119

>>8666113
Did you even read the rest of their post?

>after getting out of the relationship I was in with a cosplayer, I couldn't completely separate my photography from my attraction to some of the subjects I was working with, and once that line was blurry, I didn't feel ethically right doing it anymore.

Cosplaying a character is all about personal interest and investment in the character's design. It involves you and only you, and no projection or participation from other people. I don't see how "I want to wear this outfit" is anything at all like "I want to fill up hard drives with photos of people i am physically attracted to." I mean really...

>> No.8666120

>>8666115
I have nothing wrong with people wanting to take photos of cosplayers in sexy cosplays, but going as far to try to coherse them into nude shoots and talk about how they are the only way you can get popular because networking and stuff? Not okay. Especially going after new cosplayers who really don't understand the scene completely. He was clearly taking advantage of these younger girls and their inexperience in the skeeziness of the cosplay community.

>> No.8666121

>>8666118
What if someone came at his daughter like this if she got into cosplay? I swear.. I don't understand how men think and act like this, but then turn around and have daughters. Its disgusting. I mean.. Would be turn and give the dude a high five for asking his daughter for nudes and shit? I don't think so.

>> No.8666122

>>8666121
Yeah, that's really disturbing to think about. His daughter will be the same age as the girls he's been pressuring in no time, does he really not see how awful he'd feel if someone did this to her? How awful and fucked up SHE would feel?

>> No.8666125

>>8665767
>>
It makes me laff that these girls didn't stand up for themselves at the time it happened but now collectively do it. Drama brings attention, and we all know you love victimising yourself instead of standing up for yourself. .

>> No.8666128

>>8666125
Or some of these girls find strength in numbers? When you are not alone it is easier to come out if you have had a problem.

>> No.8666129

>>8666122
Yeah, my dad has always been a good dude, but having three daughters has really made him into a feminist.

>> No.8666130

>>8666125
A lot of people are just not strong. I have some cosplay friends who will straight up say "fuck off" to people who are even trying to talk to them (lonely guy nerds trying to get a boyfriend free girl). Nerds in general are very meek and more likely to do nothing or at most be passive aggressive though.

>> No.8666131

>>8665887
I'll start with Boon and King as there's been stories floating around about them both.

The general gist is that I just let people figure out if they ever do. But the cosplay community as a whole just tolerates really inappropriate sleezy behavior either for the sake of mediocre photos or because everyone just manages to consider it normal now.

Hell from an outsiders prospective even then fact that con guys way older tend to just congregate around with girls younger is hella sleezy.

>> No.8666133

>>8666128
i know most of these girls. some of them, but not all, are clearly riding the victim train for free ass pats now that it's come out. they didnt have any problem with it at the time and some of them have done nude shoots with other photogs

>> No.8666134

>>8666131
Expiration dates and people naturally moving on. A girl might get tired of the cosplay hubbub. A photographer can keep going no matter what their age.

>> No.8666135

>>8666128
This. Like I said, I didn't say anything personally because I have had people ask for nudes before and I am old enough to have this not phase me. I have done some cosplaydeviants stuff before, so the idea of a lingerie shoot appealed to me, but thinking on it and not knowing this person well enough was a clear turnoff. Especially once I was asked for nudes beforehand because he wouldn't be able to get good angle ideas otherwise? No. So I just wrote it off as something that could be ignored.

Once the minor was involved I spoke up. This is not okay and clearly she needed backup from someone who has also been asked by the same person.

>> No.8666140

>>8665966
I was harrassed for nudes by Bui. He pretended he wasn't a creep and would talk shit about EBK and other creep photographers ironically . During cons shots he would joke around saying stuff like " now give me a EBK pose" . When he first asked for a nude shoot he said it was for his portfolio . After I said no, he kept pressuring me saying no one else would see the images, but sent me nude photos of girls that had posed for him . I cut ties after

>> No.8666141

>>8666125
>victimising yourself
Ahaha yeah because the older dude flattering them and asking young girls for nude photos wasn't preying on them at all, he's totally within reason for doing that.

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>>8666133
>i know most of these girls.

>> No.8666143

>>8666133
Im not looking for asspats. Im looking to have this guy stop asking underage girls for nudes. Im 23. I don't need asspats in the cosplay community and I have never done nude shoots with other photographers before , yet I was approached just as the others were.

regardless of what you think, we are victims of being solicited for nudes and pressured under the idea that as cosplayers we are nothing besides those nudes since apparently that is the only way to get noticed.

>> No.8666145

>>8666128
>>8666130
> go on cgl
>anon post
>profit

>> No.8666146

>>8666141
Takes two to tango. He is indeed a lecherous bastard.

>> No.8666149

>>8666140
I have a friend who I talked to about this and it is true. During photoshoots and throws on this really domineering, yet earnest personality out there and he tried to convince her to take her bra off. She did because he wouldn't stop and because she felt comfortable in her body, but she didn't feel comfortable about him. She is very small and skinny, of age though, but saying no to him, alone in a room, wasn't an option at the time. She refuses to ever work with him again.

I hope she comes out and posts her story too.

>> No.8666150

>>8666145
I've done shit that pissed people off and you could hear them bitch about it but no farther than that. Usually it involves a line that people are in. Like they would talk about it loudly when you're walking by but not to you and not to anyone that could do anything about it. Maybe because sometimes the people helping get through the line are staff but oh man they were maaaaaaad

>> No.8666151

>>8666145
You are clearly a friend of his who is trying to say the girls are the problem. Fuck off.

>> No.8666152

>>8666134
It really doesn't excuse how weird it looks to people.

There's just too many people holding cameras for the wrong reasons. I'm glad Bui got outed and I hope guys like him either learn to shut their mouths of stay out.

>> No.8666153

>>8666143
>pressured under the idea that as cosplayers we are nothing besides those nudes since apparently that is the only way to get noticed.
You're pulling shit out of your ass. He wanted nudes to fap to, not to post them around to make you famous so you would get noticed nude.

He wants to fap. He's sleezy. Don't make this into something its not.

>> No.8666154

>>8666152
Yeah more an explanation than an excuse. In a few decades when I hit 50 I'm probably still going to be going to cons because I like seeing stuff live. I just know it. And then I'll be the one getting creeper posts by virtue of my age.

>> No.8666155

>>8666151
I'm not saying the girls are the problem at all. You girls have this way to making imaginary scenarios where other people are saying things they aren't.

>> No.8666158

>>8666153
Dude, quit with the trolling. It's in the screencaps of him using the promise of cosfame (ha!) to /get/ the nudes. Nobody said he'd use them to make them famous, only that by providing him with the nudes and working with him would the fame come to them.

So shut the fuck up and quit with the victim blame diatribe and let the rest of the thread develop.

>> No.8666159

>>8666158
>You girls have this way to making imaginary scenarios where other people are saying things they aren't.

>> No.8666160

>>8666155
Screencaps, dude. Are you blind?

>> No.8666163

>>8666158
>only that by providing him with the nudes and working with him would the fame come to them.
Didn't know he's the only photog in existence, sorry man.

>> No.8666164

>>8666149
I have worked with him and during this time he touched me saying he was " poseing me".Sadly I was naive and didn't know how to stand up for myself . I knew what he was asking made me feel uncomfortable. I wish I was stronger to have told him off.

>> No.8666167

>>8666160
I'm talking about my posts, not the photographer. See what I mean? Theres context in my posts, I talk about /me/ talking about not saying the girls are a problem, but somehow you jumped to the photographer for my next sentence for some reason.

>> No.8666172

>>8666167
Then get the fuck out. The context for this thread is Bui.

>> No.8666173

>>8666172
u mad you're a retard?

>> No.8666174

>>8666164
Thats another problem. I was introduced to him when his whole 'Pedo Bui' and 'Touch to Pose' thing nickname was going on. I just thought these were jokes. More like the joke was on people thinking these weren't serious names. Thinking now though with the nickname 'Pedo Bui', I don't think he should have his daughter. I'm really concerned now.

>> No.8666175

>>8666173
>u mad you're a retard?
Here come the ad hominem attacks to derail the thread!

>> No.8666176

>>8666175
Just ignore it. We want to keep this thread open so the word gets out about this. If this person wants to troll it then let them and report them.

>> No.8666177

>>8666176
>vendetta thread
>ITS OKAY GUYS
lek.

>> No.8666179

>>8666174
sometimes it's easier to move people directly than it is to play the mime game. if you've ever played the mime game it never goes quickly...

>> No.8666182

>>8666179
I'm a photographer as well. If you really need to touch the model , ask for permission , and his touching was not the same as moving a stray hair off the shoulder .

>> No.8666183

>>8666177
Im sorry. Getting word out about a cosplayer photographer who is preying on underage girls and trying to boost this to ward people is considered a vendetta thread? Its more along the lines of helping people avoid a predator.

>> No.8666185

>>8666107
It's been far more than 3. I hope many more girls speak up.

>> No.8666187

>>8666183
It is when you're absolutely not accepting anything that isn't negative and hateful about him.

>> No.8666195

>>8666174
I don't think we've seen anything yet that would imply that he's a risk to his daughter.

A horny creep, yes, one who's willing to harass girls slightly under the legal limit (the only one I heard confirmed was a day from her 18th), but there's a big difference between that and being an actual child predator or molester.

The guy deserves to be shamed and run out of the community for sure, but I don't know that he deserves to have his whole life destroyed based on what I've seen so far.

That said, we may have only seen the tip of the iceberg with this. It started with online stuff, now we have a secondhand report of him trying similar stuff in person. More will likely appear.

>> No.8666196
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8666196

>>8666187
Many people have said he is a good guy and is funny and stuff. I don't think you are reading anything. He may be nice, but that doesn't excuse his solicitation for nudes and by no means is a reason to not listen to these girls.

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8666199

Its is NOTHING like a drawing class. He has a lot of nerve.

>> No.8666203

>>8666199
this is why no one takes art seriously
it's not a fucking outlet for you to get skeevy and creepy

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8666204

>very clinical

>> No.8666208

As someone who actually models and has drawn (not done, but looked into) nude models, any "photographer" asking for you to send full nudes isn't someone to be trusted.

Someone wanting to shoot nudes will ask for previous professional work and polaroids which at the least have a bikini or tight fitted plain clothing.

>> No.8666217

I just can't get over how ridiculous the premise of needing nudes to plan photos for cosplay shoots is. Some of these seem to have been lingerie shoots, in which case it makes a tiny bit more sense (but any fitted clothing would have sufficed), and many cosplays are so flowy and loose that body type is almost irrelevant for shoots beyond the basics of general weight and height.

When I was an active photographer, I took many popular photos in which I knew very little about the subject before the shoot. It takes 5 minutes to figure out what works for a person and what doesn't, and a good 75% of that is about angles for the face and what works well for the costume itself.

>> No.8666219

>>8666217
This is why going after newer cosplayers was probably his idea. Or cosplayers who don't have big names. They don't know this stuff.

>> No.8666230

>>8666093
The line is when you do things like Bui. Photography is all about shooting what you like to see? You like seeing porn? Go shoot porn. Cute girls? Go shoot cute girls. But depending on your means that is where the ethical issue lies. Bui asking for nudes no matter what? Not fine of course.

And tons of people get into a hobby because their attracted to somebody. I joined the band because I wanted to get closer to this girl I liked... it's the same with photography sometimes. It's not ethically wrong, it goes wrong when you're forcing it aggressively.

>> No.8666246

I have it on pretty good authority that Bui was not acting alone and that other members of his group were involved, were doing similar things, or were encouraged to do so. My source didn't name anybody in particular but I have my suspicions. It'll be interested to see if anybody else goes down with this ship.

>> No.8666253

>>8666246
Your source is probably just making shit up.

>> No.8666258

>>8665634
>>8666253
This image even mentions an 'us', but they are not referring to the girl. This means there is someone else involved in this hotel room he is trying to set up with the underage girl.

>> No.8666272

>>8666258
Okay that image has more credibility than your source.

Probably just after dark kind of bs though and we all know how cgl likes them lol

>> No.8666274

>>8666258
Would it have been someone from the Cosplay Photographers group?

>> No.8666279

>>8666274
I dont know. I will ask the girl if he mentioned who the we/us was. My next question would be though whether or not the other person involved knew what Richard was asking for.

>> No.8666280

>>8666274
That seemed to be the implication, but my source seemed to be uncomfortable talking about it and was being vague, and I'm being even more vague because I don't want to give too many hints as to who that source might be.

I do, however, have no reason to believe said source would make shit up, and their background is such that they would have had some degree of knowledge of what was going on with Richard and his group.

>> No.8666286

>>8666253
>>8666258
>>8666272
>>8666274
>>8666279
>>8666280

Oh, I feel like I should clarify this because it's going to be confusing: I am >>8666246
and >>8666280, and have a source who knew Richard and the group well.

>>8666258
and
>>8666279

are different posters and the girl in question is not my source.

>> No.8666287

>>8666279
That one is hard to pinpoint because you can't tell what someone else is thinking unless they say it or are seen doing it too. Like whether they had knowledge beforehand of the conversations or what their plans in the room were

>> No.8666291

>>8666287
She even states she doesn't want to be alone. Meaning, this other person isn't someone she had in her back pocket to bring. This person was coming with Richard.

>> No.8666294

>>8666164
I've done lingerie shoots (with the photographer full well knowing I was a stripper at the time), never was I touched to get in a pose unless it was moving the angle of my face, never was I coerced to remove my clothes and I was given privacy while changing outfits, professional photographers (exceptions like Uncle Terry aside) are usually respectful of the people they're shooting and will work with you rather than lord over you and coerce you into situations you aren't comfortable with. This whole thing is disgusting but the touching naked or near naked girls to adjust their poses, I'm assuming without asking permission to touch you first, doubles it.

>> No.8666295

>girls want to do slutty activities
>photogs blamed for taking advantage of it

obviously the photog is sketchy as fuck, but damn these girls are stupid.

>> No.8666298

>>8666295
that bait though

>> No.8666301

>>8666291
I mean you can't tell if guy 2 is malicious or just caught up in something he thinks is legit or if guy 2 even exists at all. Unless you have guy 2 in the conversation you can't tell his thoughts