Let's get a bodypaint general. Success stories, horror stories, tutorials and tips.

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Anonymous Mon Sep 21 19:34:16 2015 No.8625781 [Reply] [Original]

Let's get a bodypaint general. Success stories, horror stories, tutorials and tips.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 21 19:42:26 2015 No.8625810 >>8625781 >cheetofire That was fast. How do we not make this mistake? I seems like her face was made too dark, especially with her wig.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 21 19:42:57 2015 No.8625813 File: 29 KB, 340x386, Starfire.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8625781 Why is her face red? Starfire is all the same orange color. This looks awful. Then again, this is the girl who brownfaced really badly for Anthy.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 21 19:45:25 2015 No.8625821 File: 327 KB, 800x554, b747d4cbbfa3d277a20338c160c81281.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8625813 Pic related. Her legs and face don't even match.

Anonymous Mon Sep 21 19:45:46 2015 No.8625822

Had my first experience with bodypainting a couple months ago.

Went as Marceline to a costume party and everything went smoothly. Used on face + neck + arms.
Did the baby powder + hairspray trick on top of a random white drugstore facepaint that I dyed with black eyeshadow to get a grey color.
Lasted the whole day without touch-ups.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 21 19:47:04 2015 No.8625828 >>8625822 Have any pictures?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 21 19:47:26 2015 No.8625830 >>8625821 it looks ok on my screen

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 21 19:48:04 2015 No.8625833 >>8625781 Crossposting from the shironuri thread because it died How do I get body paint to stay on through sweat? (I currently like in the south) I'll be using mitsuyoshi's greasepaint and two way came, if that helps

Anonymous Mon Sep 21 20:02:46 2015 No.8625865
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>>8625828
Sadly only low-quality selfies.
You can see I didn't apply properly at my hairline and my skin color is showing a bit.

Had a bit of a hard time keeping the color consistent, I couldn't layer the paint since it was water based. Would love some tips on that.

(Forgive the bad wig and cardboard bass, I put everything together in a couple days.)

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 21 20:18:45 2015 No.8625883 >>8625821 looks like she's wearing tights and that's why her legs look different

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 21 20:36:48 2015 No.8625914 >>8625883 Still looks bad tho.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 21 20:38:42 2015 No.8625918 >>8625914 I never said it looked good

Anonymous Mon Sep 21 21:29:59 2015 No.8625992
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>baby's first cosplay
>homosuck because 2011
>doesn't actually look too bad for first attempt
>oh fuck it's raining
>have to run outside to get to photoshoot
>end of shoot see a girl cosplaying my fav character
>ask for hug without thinking
>as i pull away i see little grey hand prints
>all over her black suit jacket
>mfw
>literally ran before she noticed
>never wear cosplay again
>still feel bad

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 21 21:54:40 2015 No.8626051 How, if at all, would I wear sunscreen with bodypaint? I usually don't go a day without SPF because I fear skin cancer like the devil but if not wearing sunscreen will help the bodypaint stay on at a con then I'll sacrifice one day.

Anonymous Mon Sep 21 22:15:38 2015 No.8626100

>>8625865
>Would love some tips
My tip would be don't use eyeshadow+whatever ffs. You can buy ben nye or other facepaint in the right color for like $6, so you couldn't possibly be saving more than a dollar, tops.

>I couldn't layer the paint since it was water based
It probably wasn't waterbased facepaint then, since the water based application method is to lay down lots of thin layers. Either that or you were using way too much water on your sponge.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 21 22:16:45 2015 No.8626102 >>8625781 She said this was a professional job by a makeup artist... I hope she didn't pay anything, because this looks fucking awful.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 21 22:19:14 2015 No.8626107 >>8626102 "professional"

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 21 22:32:18 2015 No.8626129 >>8625992 tfw you're the horror story

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 21 23:09:15 2015 No.8626183 >>8626051 not sure how you'd layer them, but paint actually has some uv blocking abilities - did painted on swirls once and headed out into the sun, got nice swirly gaps in my tan where the paint was.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 21 23:09:15 2015 No.8626184 >>8626102 didnt she say starfire is her most expensive cosplay because of the body paint and makeup?

Anonymous Mon Sep 21 23:26:14 2015 No.8626198

>>8626100
I know, but I'm not in the US so couldn't get it on time. Thought it was a good idea for achieving colors that weren't properly available. :( only had black and white ones.

Yeah, maybe my sponge was too soaked, it kept removing the first layer when I tried applying more. Will look into that next time, thanks!

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 21 23:26:18 2015 No.8626199 >>8626184 Body paint is expensive, so I can believe that, but still for someone to fuck up the face from the rest of the body?

Anonymous Mon Sep 21 23:45:47 2015 No.8626233

>>8626198
Yeah if that happens then either 1) your bottom layer wasn't dry, or 2) way too much water. When applying waterbased make sure your layers are 100% completely dry, and squeeze out your sponge before picking up makeup - you want it damp but not so wet that tons of water comes out.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 00:02:13 2015 No.8626252 >>8625781 What the hell is this mess?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 00:03:44 2015 No.8626255 >>8625821 Fine to me. A lot better than OP picture.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 00:06:16 2015 No.8626261 File: 10 KB, 600x239, 32032_5b8ea0295afbf87292bbfec631f5d398.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8625992

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 00:11:48 2015 No.8626276 >>8626255 You serious? It's blotchy as fuck. Look at her elbows. She also looks orange.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 00:13:00 2015 No.8626277 >>8626276 Sticking to it. Deal with it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 00:17:06 2015 No.8626288 File: 103 KB, 600x906, starfire1-600x906.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8625781 I love how Pridemore is such a pro cosplayer, but fucks this shit up while others can get it right and aren't "pro" like her!

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 00:18:08 2015 No.8626291 File: 204 KB, 2048x1366, 10295431_724542520942420_710993783659769345_o-this-starfire-cosplay-is-on-fire-jpeg-197967.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8626288

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 00:51:59 2015 No.8626356 >>8626288 She's not, nor ever will be a "professional". She can't sew for shit. She can't style wigs for shit. She can't makeup for shit.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 00:53:52 2015 No.8626358 >>8626356 She puts professional cosplayer on her tax returns according to one of her FB posts.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 00:56:58 2015 No.8626364 >>8626358 lol she hasn't filed a tax return in probably 10 years (probably the last time she had an actual job).

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 01:36:44 2015 No.8626441 >>8626356 i thought she works as a seamstress for some costume company out in CA?

Anonymous Tue Sep 22 01:50:58 2015 No.8626453
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>>8625781
I'm just trying to understand why the hell she painted her whole body when may parts of that outfit would allow orange colored fabric? Has she ever heard of arm-socks?

Anonymous Tue Sep 22 02:05:00 2015 No.8626475
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>2013 also cosplay homosuck
>be terezi because best troll

>only paint face, use/have armsocks because saves paint, and dont want to get paint on others
>armsocks/facepaint colour on point
>people think I painted my arms
>"accidentally" rub arms on other cosplayers from behind as a joke, then walk in frot of them showing I had "painted" gray arms
>rub their back/shoulder with my whole arm
>"OOPS I DIDN'T SEAL THE PAINT"
>they gasp and freak out for a milisecond before they realize I have armsocks and was joking
>do this every now and again all day to friends
>have good laughs all around

You bet your ass Im doing it again if I ever paint myself for another cosplay
Don't forget to seal kids

Anonymous Tue Sep 22 02:09:35 2015 No.8626482

>>8626358
you can put whatever the hell you want on a 1099 and the IRS does not check too closely. They just want their money. They don't care what you do to get them that money (minus something like prostitute, assassin, or human trafficker). Actually, they probably don't care about those either.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 02:21:00 2015 No.8626490 >>8626364 what's the home like, since you're assuming you know

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 04:07:06 2015 No.8626589 >>8626051 Sunscreen first, bodypaint atop.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 04:24:44 2015 No.8626600 File: 98 KB, 1024x794, liono.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8625781 Idk what you guys are talking about I think it looks pretty spot-on

Anonymous Tue Sep 22 05:01:04 2015 No.8626622

>>8625914
It's kinda hard to match exactly when you are dealing with matching skin tone under facepaint with a fabric. For a photoshoot, it may have been wiser to just paint all over, but for a con, using tights/armsocks and not actually painting much of your body is a godsend.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 05:32:27 2015 No.8626637 >>8626600 This is exactly what I first thought of. Starfire didn't even cross my mind.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 10:14:05 2015 No.8626889 >>8626453 body paint looks better than using fabric, when done correctly

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 10:59:56 2015 No.8626945 >>8626453 She's trying to gain cosplay credibility points >>8626889 Yes, but she didn't do it here properly so point is moot

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 11:06:14 2015 No.8626953 File: 57 KB, 539x960, 189iCcm.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] found this in a bad/cringe thread recently.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 12:13:38 2015 No.8627050 >>8626291 What is wrong with her sideboob/waist area?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 12:41:13 2015 No.8627103 >>8626288 >>8626291 How much of that is photoshopped/touched up? You can really tell on her face in the shadowed areas.

Anonymous Tue Sep 22 13:42:48 2015 No.8627201

>>8625833
Get professional grade face paint and determine the best way to seal it (I'm assuming you want white since its for shironuri, but most brands will carry a variety of colors). Wolfe FX, Diamond FX, TAG, Global, Mehron Paradise, Kryolan Aquacolor, Kryvaline, and Cameleon are all great brands and you can find them all online. Ben Nye has nice "greasepaints" if that's what you want. Dips Waterproof Facepaint is also really neat, although I haven't used that personally. With most water based paints, a spray sealant is the way to go (I like Mehron's Barrier Spray, but Ben Nye makes one, I think Urban Decay has one too). If you have a "greasepaint" then you'll need to seal it with setting powder.

If you really can't afford sealants, you can go the hair spray and baby powder route, but remember that those things aren't meant for your face and can cause problems when used in ways they aren't intended.

>>8626051

Body paint acts like physical sunscreen (think of old school lifeguards who wore zinc oxide to protect their faces from the sun.) You should be fine assuming you have uniform coverage from the paint.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 15:11:29 2015 No.8627313 >>8625781 I'm finding it hard to judge the paint job considering how horribly oversaturated and sharpened this shitty photo is. Maybe it didn't look so shockingly horrible in reality.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 15:12:50 2015 No.8627315 >>8627201 Yeah I'm using mitsuyoshi greasepaint and two way cake (maiko, kabuki performers, and Minori use it) So just lots of powder? That's it?

Anonymous Tue Sep 22 15:20:24 2015 No.8627325

>>8627315
When I'm using creme/oil-based makeup I usually saturate it with translucent powder until it's no longer tacky to the touch and then seal it in with Final Seal. As a warning, it will rub off more than water-based paint sealed equally well, so watch out for the necklines of the clothes you wear.

Anonymous Tue Sep 22 15:25:50 2015 No.8627338

>>8627315
I'm not a huge fan of greasepaints because they never really dry, they'll stay tacky all day. If you want them to last in the heat, you must powder them. I'm also not a fan because I don't think that greasepaints are as easy to work with, but that's a personal preference.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 15:28:34 2015 No.8627347 >>8627050 She's top heavy so all her fat distribution is in her back to compensate for them titties. It's also harder to get rid of which sucks.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 16:44:41 2015 No.8627474 >>8625813 >>8625810 >>8625781 She paid Shelby Patton to do her make up, a "professional". I wonder how much she paid for such a shit job.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 18:29:13 2015 No.8627610 >>8627325 So a sealing spray goes on top of the powder? Do you recommend Ben Nye more or some spray made by a regular makeup company (urban decay, etc)?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 19:32:19 2015 No.8627700 >>8627201 If you can't afford sealants, you can't afford bodypaint. FFS.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 19:37:49 2015 No.8627707 >>8627700 People make weird decisions when it comes to money. I'm not defending them, but if they really can't spring for the $8 bottle of sealing spray then they can use hair spray. Its their skin.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 19:49:47 2015 No.8627725 >>8627050 wide ribcage, small waist nothing wrong

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 19:56:53 2015 No.8627743 >>8625781 She looks so sweaty and nasty.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 19:59:53 2015 No.8627748 IDK if this counts as a horror story but my Ben Nye Sealant leaked and somehow fucking fused all of my brand new kyrolan body paints to the drawer. They're still in there, melded with the wood. That stuff isn't fucking around.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 20:34:56 2015 No.8627817 >>8627700 True. But I would rather have kiddos that are going to do it anyway know about cheap ways to seal. Because hair spray does work to keep your paint on your body and not all over the con.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 20:57:03 2015 No.8627863 >>8625992 consider suicide

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 21:01:15 2015 No.8627868 >>8626475 id probably cry

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 22:09:04 2015 No.8627960 >>8627610 Yep. I've only ever used Final Seal, which has always worked well for me, but other people like the Mehron. I'd go with the theatrical sealants because they're meant to withstand sweating, stage lights, etc.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 23:34:56 2015 No.8628153 >>8627700 this >>8627817 no fuck u

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 02:46:19 2015 No.8628494 >>8625781 At least the body paint gradient matches the wig gradient?? lul

Anonymous Wed Sep 23 04:36:15 2015 No.8628580

>>8628153
Look, Homestuck and Steven Universe have proven people will use body paint even if they shouldn't be doing it, because they don't have a clue what they are doing and/or can't actually afford to do it right.
It's way better for them to know how to cheaply seal their crappy paint so at least they won't get it on someone else's shit than just skip sealing altogether because "sealant is too expensive".
I'm not saying I actually advocate people using hair spray vs. proper sealant, but its worth mentioning as simple damage control.
Because if they want to, people are going to use body paint either way, and I would much rather have them just look shitty than look shitty AND get paint everywhere.
It's the sort of thing that leads to cons banning all body paint, regardless of whether it is sealed or not, or making you prove yours is sealed and therefore wasting your time as each staff member checks your paint is sealed.

Anonymous Wed Sep 23 15:35:37 2015 No.8628979

>>8627748
oh god, this has happened with someone else? i thought there must be a problem with my bottle. i bought a fresh one and somehow it melted a hole in the bottle or something (it seriously looked like someone burned through it with a torch or something), and leaked out everywhere. by the time i discovered it it had fused the bottle to the bin that it was in. it was a big minty smelling mess to clean up. sticking with other brands of sealer from now on

Anonymous Wed Sep 23 15:36:43 2015 No.8628981

I'm the anon planning on a horror/medical shironuri coord and since this thread is more active I guess I'll ask here:
Can I apply prosthetics over facepaint? These are the prosthetics in question. http://www.mostlydead.com/collections/injury-fx/products/cluster-pox
I don't think I should apply them directly on my skin because it says they blend with your skin tone and it would look weird to have white skin and suddenly flesh toned sores. I'm using a greasepaint with a setting powder and probably final seal on top

Anonymous Wed Sep 23 15:41:00 2015 No.8628990

>>8628979
>minty
did it mix with thier fake blood? their mouth safe fake blood has a delicious minty flavor
Also would anyone be interested in a prosthetics/horror costumes/fake injury general since it's almost Halloween and I don't want to shit up this thread with those?

Anonymous Wed Sep 23 15:45:16 2015 No.8629000

>>8628990
i dont own their fake blood, but they must like their products smelling minty, because their sealant smells like mint gum or something. and yeah, a general sfx makeup thread sounds cool! wish we could combine this one with it though, to make a kind of SFX makeup/body paint thread for halloween

Anonymous Wed Sep 23 16:49:45 2015 No.8629085

>>8628981
I think with that prosthetic it is literally going to be transparent. It will blend in with any skin color because it will literally be see through. There is a video at the bottom of the page you linked that shows you how to apply it, the only difference is that you're going to painting over everything (application and your own skin). I would apply the prosthetic first, then apply your white, painting over the edges of the application to blend it in with your natural skin, then applying the blood that comes with the prosthetic. I think spirit gum will adhere better to your skin than it will to paint.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 17:08:59 2015 No.8629121 >>8629000 Thread made >>8629081 >>8629085 Hm ok thanks. I will try that

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 17:21:22 2015 No.8629141 >>8628981 Jesus Christ have you done any research whatsoever Paint goes over prosthetics

Anonymous Wed Sep 23 21:25:29 2015 No.8629491

Any anons with cystic acne or acne prone skin have recommendations for paint and sealant? Our theatre department in high school used sealed paint for zombies, and then again for a military skit. Both times resulted in bad breakouts for me. It puts me off from even wanting to attempt cosplay with paint, tbh, but I know I can't be the only one with this issue.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 22:07:24 2015 No.8629553 >>8629491 Ask your dermatologist.

Anonymous Wed Sep 23 22:14:04 2015 No.8629562

>>8629491
Anything water-based is going to be gentler on your skin than oil or greasepaint.
Snazaroo is a brand of water-based children's face paint that is pretty hypoallergenic because it's meant to be used on literal children. It's popular with homestucks because it's cheap and comes in a light grey. It's not the best, but it's good enough and works, and is cheap enough to be worth trying at least. Micheal's and art stores tend to have it in stock too.
Ben Nye final seal is what I used with it, but I don't know if it's good for acne.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 22:37:54 2015 No.8629598 >>8629491 Waterbase is better than grease. Supposedly alcohol activated are the best for sensitive skin, but they're fucking expensive.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 22:58:39 2015 No.8629627 >>8629491 Snazaroo or Ruby Red. Both are hypoallergenic. Test a patch before slathering your face on it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 23:39:40 2015 No.8629681 >>8626600 You actually made me think it was supposed to be a fem-Liono for a little bit.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 24 00:00:12 2015 No.8629712 >>8629553 >>8629562 >>8629598 >>8629627 >>8629681 Thanks anons! Unfortunately I don't have insurance, so I don't see a dermatologist, but I'll give these suggestions a try.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 24 11:33:06 2015 No.8630198 >>8629712 anon, are you in America or somewhere else?

Anonymous Thu Sep 24 14:30:06 2015 No.8630464
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>talking to weeb in college about their cosplays
> 'oh i always cosplay homestuck'
> 'Oh do you use armsocks? I've seen people say about using that since paint rubs off apparently'
>'You must have learned that from a low tier cosplayer! everyone knows armsocks is for noobs and my cosplay friends find it funny when people leave grey paint everywhere'

I have seen hell

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 24 15:07:24 2015 No.8630519 >>8630464 Body paint may look better, but it's only suitable for very short term use, such as a shoot. Tights and armsocks are a much better alternative for long term wear, such as conventions

Anonymous Thu Sep 24 15:23:32 2015 No.8630544

>>8630464
>>'You must have learned that from a low tier cosplayer! everyone knows armsocks is for noobs and my cosplay friends find it funny when people leave grey paint everywhere'

Then those cosplay "friends" are dicks. Jesus almighty there's nothing funny about damaging property.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 24 15:26:48 2015 No.8630551 >>8630544 It also gives the whole fandom a bad reputation, and makes cons want to ban all body paint. Plus, fuck painting anything but your face. Maybe it's because I live in Texas, but pretty much everyone uses armsocks around here.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 24 15:29:36 2015 No.8630555 >>8630551 I'm in Australia and they don't here. I was trying to sell stuff at a con and one touched stuff. Unsealed paint so I had to throw it. Armsocks for cons should be encouraged.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 24 15:36:06 2015 No.8630565 >>8630555 Jesus christ, that's horrible. The few times I painted my hands and arms I didn't touch anything, even though I sealed the heck out of my paint, just in case. Why didn't you make them pay for it? Or did you not notice until after the fact

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 24 16:23:31 2015 No.8630617 >>8630464 Jesus Christ, even the middle schoolers in my local HS comm know better >>8630519 The only acceptable paint for cons is PAX. And even then you don't paint your palms.

Anonymous Thu Sep 24 16:26:05 2015 No.8630624

>>8630617
PAX is not great for beginners. Acrylic paint is not formulated for use on skin (and PAX is made with acrylic paint), so while it works for many people, it is not something I would suggest for people who are just stepping into the world of bodypaint.

Anonymous Thu Sep 24 17:19:02 2015 No.8630723

>Friend drags friend to con so they can be Scanty and Kneesocks
>Neither has any experience in body paint
>Knee socks doesn't even want to be there
>Sits down on white chair in hotel room
>Yep it's red now
>I think it was pleather but I don't know if it washed out
>Knee socks is fucking done and leaves with two con days left

Pretty sure that Scanty is a seagull and if you're reading this tell us what happened to said chair.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 24 17:53:11 2015 No.8630781 >>8630198 In America. o: Not a lot of spare cash floating about, so I try not to buy stuff unless I'm about 80% that it will work. For the pricier stuff anyway. Ben Nye is pretty reasonable. Why do you ask?

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 24 17:56:48 2015 No.8630788 >>8630781 Snazaroo and Ruby Red are the cheapest professional paints out there. You can get them at Joann Fabrics or Michaels if you want to get them at a brick and mortar.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 24 19:38:18 2015 No.8630957 >>8630788 Thanks, anon! Will hopefully have some money left over tomorrow after getting paid so I can stop by Joann's!

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 24 23:52:11 2015 No.8631316 >>8628580 or not fucking do at all

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 24 23:55:26 2015 No.8631319 >>8630781 free clinics. medicare. which are less expensive than you had to pay for the non-insured fee >o: ugh

Anonymous Fri Sep 25 00:06:08 2015 No.8631326

while this is here can i ask for a suggestion on what brand/color to get for mixing for opal's color or would that be better suited for the help thread...? i'd like to use ben nye but im open to anything that'll cost under $30 tbh. i already have sealant/spray/powder. my last try with bodypaint was a fucking disaster and i don't want it to repeat itself.

Anonymous Sat Sep 26 01:25:15 2015 No.8633369

>>8631319
Yeah, I have a bad habit of forgetting not to use emotes here. I'm sorry.

Actually had insurance until I was dropped for "non-payment". It was instead an information communication error between healthcare marketplace and the insurance company about the amount due, so I paid the wrong amount. Neither would take responsibility and continued to point fingers at the other one, so it was never resolved after several appeals.

I'm obviously unsure where you're from, but free clinics aren't common in my area, and according to the government I make too much for Medicaid or food stamps. Have been on hard times financially for quite some time, and have made very little progress in getting any help despite my efforts. Just trying to finish school and get into a full time position seems to be the best thing. I appreciate the advice, though. There are those it works for.

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