Old School Lolita

[Anonymous No.8607281]

Old thread died, let's have a new old school thread

[Anonymous No.8607282]

Does anyone else get a bit stressed out about the condition/damaging their older items? Things like lace and embroidery seem to be the most susceptible to damage, whether it be due to time or wear. I have this Moitie OP and the embroidery is coming unattached and I'm scared it's going to unravel, especially as I stupidly cut a loose thread from one of the embroidered crosses rather than asking a friend that offered to fix it do it. It's also a bit pilled.

[Anonymous No.8607283]

This outfit is god tier and I cannot be convinced otherwise.

[Anonymous No.8607286]

Another issue seems to be discolouration from age. I know that the white lace on the heart bags that BTSSB has yellow really easily. The print on one of my cutsews has yellowed horribly and I never even wore it.

I own pic related and it's aged really well, the velveteen ribbons haven't even gotten damaged.

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>>8607282
Anon please ask your friend immediately what to do since them seem knowledgeable about it. If you destroy that dress I will never forgive you.

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[Anonymous No.8607295]

>>8607288
It seems as though the crosses just need to be sewn down a bit at the top. Not sure what to do about the pilling but it's mild. She offered to do it for me for free but I want to give her something first and am waiting to be able to grab some things I have for her in storage at my old house so it will be awhile. Don't worry, it's still intact as much as it was when I got it.

I wish Arachnophobia stuff was easier to find secondhand.

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>>8607295
I'm glad to hear your dress is still in good condition. I'm jealous you own it but also insanely happy for you.

[Anonymous No.8607299]

I will forever love Antique Bouquet. I want almost all of the JSK cuts of the blue colourway.

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>>8607296
Thanks anon, I hope you find it one day. I'll have to post it on here if it comes up for auction. It's super comfy as well as pretty.

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These girls said they were going to sell all their Moitie on the comm sales but never did. I'm sad, they had some really rare items such as headwear/socks/bags.

[Anonymous No.8607316]

>>8607313
Whoops, by that I meant the girls here. Who knows, maybe they still like lolita.

[Anonymous No.8607318]

>>8607316
>tfw you have to sell this dress because your shoulders are too big

[Anonymous No.8607322]

>>8607318
I miss the days of Myspace when you could find dozens of really well dressed lolitas and then be jealous of their clothes via being a creeper and browsing their top friends.

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>>8607322
I will try to stop yabbering to myself now

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>>8607325
Does anyone have any requests?

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>>8607327

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>>8607299
There is one on Closet Child at the moment.

[Anonymous No.8607442]

Hey school tartan anon (heather? I can't remember) I've been seeing a lot of blue-green and grey tartan on auctions but no red for some reason.
Here is an old meta set, it's more of a sherlock look with the cape but could be schoolish without.
http://page8.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/h207981645

[Anonymous No.8607449]

Also I found this one but I want it so I'm not posting.

[Anonymous No.8607454]

>>8607327
I'd love to see some oldschool red/navy coords?
Recently got a red oldschool BTSSB bolero that I think is timeless but I want to see some older navy coords that aren't sailor.

[Anonymous No.8607484]

Does anyone have more pictures of this IW dress? Or any info about it? It's from GLB 11.

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>>8607484
Pretty sure it's on Lolibrary

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>>8607454
Red tartans have blue lines...

[Anonymous No.8607904]

>>8607330
Shit I wish I could find those a bit cheap somewhere.

[Anonymous No.8607912]

>>8607327
More choconyan

[Anonymous No.8607983]

I would love to request old school looking outfits with newer main pieces.

[Anonymous No.8609001]

Got this skirt in pink but it seems to have pot noodle stains and since it is velveteen, any tips on getting it out.

[Anonymous No.8609016]

>>8607904
Doesn't bodyline have them? Otherwise post a wtb, I bet every second lolita bought a pair because of #shoelust, wore them once and out them in the wardrobe. Otherwise they're all over ebay. Go forth and rock.

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>>8607299
My goal in life has become to collect every Antique Bouquet piece in every colorway. It's too perfect.

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>>8610341
Do you have any of the headwear? I saw the blue headdress come up last year which I need but I didn't buy it as I felt guilty about buying too much stuff beforehand. It was cheap too.

[Anonymous No.8610406]

>>8607316
Nah they moved on too some edgy monochrome fashion shit. They were bitches to begin with so I'm glad they moved on tbh.

[Anonymous No.8610410]

>>8610403
Nope, I constantly miss headwear. Then when a main piece pops up I'm usually too broke to get it. It's a struggle.

[Anonymous No.8610432]

>>8607442
I just bought a btssb jsk like this that I'm planning on selling cause it doesn't look right on me unfortunately, I really love tartan too. Let me know if anyone is interested, it's the tartan check tiny sleeves jsk.

[Anonymous No.8610923]

I was considering bidding on this which is super cheap and from the lovely brand Cornet, but I probs won't so here's the link: http://www.mbok.jp/item/item_472583466.html?_SRC=li_i0

[Anonymous No.8610948]

>>8607318
I love this. Is this the dress some girl bought from a blurry photo on ebay for like, $15? Does anyone remember that story?

[Anonymous No.8612071]

>>8610948
Pretty sure it's the same girl as the pic you quoted

[Anonymous No.8613716]

Over a decade old meta
2000 yen start
http://page6.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/f159805880

[Anonymous No.8615281]

I have such a terrible velvet addiction right now. Picked up this off yj! over the weekend, I really hope it's lovely.

[Anonymous No.8615286]

This might be a silly question, but which do you find are easier to coord: white or black shoes with old school? I want a pair of rhs but I'll only be able to afford one pair so I'm really torn. My wardrobe is pretty balanced colourwise so!

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>>8615286
Black for me tbh

[Anonymous No.8615338]

>>8615286
It's easy enough to find and use normie black mary janes. I'd get white ones just so I have something to wear with pink and white colourways. Black's good with wines, dark reds/ greens, most other things but you would be able to find them easier in a pinch. I had a preference for dark shoes and was stuck not being able to coord my lighter pieces. I'm surprised you don't already have a pair of plain, smart black shoes.
And some people will say black shoes are fine with outfits that are otherwise whites/ baby pinks but that's more in old street straps with nostalgia-goggles on, not so much in reality. Do you have a lot of pieces with white contrast lace? White shoes will work with them, matching the shoes/ everything to the lace is very oldschool.

[Anonymous No.8615663]

Anybody have any worn photos of AP's Angelic Garden? I dont think I've ever seen any photos of it worn ever, or anything not a stock photo. It's my ultimate old school dream dress and I need some legit old school coord inspiration.

[Anonymous No.8615672]

>>8607281
>>8607287
Does anyone have more photos like these or dress names for similar pieces? I love the simple look of a solid color complimented by white detailing.

[Anonymous No.8615702]

>>8615672
A lot of meta's stuff is pretty badly documented, even up until recently. Older solid dresses often have pretty generic names, especially velveteen. Usually something like Velveteen (doll/ antique/ classic/ blablah random word) JSK/ OP/ Skirt. You won't really find listings for meta's stuff but you can look through old baby and AP on lolibrary and find some. You don't need to search up a specific dress, you'll find something similar eventually.

Also I own a few but everybody here has already seen them.

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>>8615663
This went up on Lacemarket a few months back and I missed it. Still disappointed.

[Anonymous No.8615714]

>>8615672
Also I'm watching some dresses like this right now if you'd like links, but be prepared to pay out the ass in shipping and ss fees (I already own too much velveteen for a hot climate and don't want to deal with them so I held back)

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>>8615714
Yes omg please post away

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>>8615718
http://page18.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/w125234605
for you

[Anonymous No.8615722]

>>8615720
OC
Finally sold the skirt

[Anonymous No.8615727]

>>8615722
Other auctions ended, I need to find them again. Bear with me.

[Anonymous No.8615735]

>>8615727
Can't find my velveteens
http://page10.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/m141986809
I'm a big fan of jewel tones and reds with contrast lace. Not so big on black x white.

[Anonymous No.8615740]

>>8615727
I wonder why meta used light embroidered lace on this one instead of their usual cotton lace that they use with velveteen? Looks off, though wwelt does take exceptionally shitty photos.
http://page8.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/h202073161

[Anonymous No.8615749]

>>8615740
Not sure how relevant this is, quite pricey, but what a pretty colour.
http://page4.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/d170219287

[Anonymous No.8615753]

>>8615735
>I'm a big fan of jewel tones and reds with contrast lace. Not so big on black x white.

Agreed, something about black and white feels flat and harsh.

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>>8615749
I can't imagine how heavy this must be.

[Anonymous No.8615786]

when someone tries to explain lolita nowadays, i always hear it's based on victorian children clothing, and it's true that it does ressemble contemporary lolita.
but no matter what, when you look at oldschool, it's a lot more like the specific style of doll clothing you find on some of the old porcelain ones than anything victorian. especially the shoes and headwear.

what's up with that?

[Anonymous No.8615806]

>>8615727
my dream dress

I'm so happy I'll be able to afford this in a few days. Then I'll just have to actually find it...

[Anonymous No.8615816]

>>8615786
This, I'm really surprised lolita wasn't originally called dolly, cause that's exactly what it is. Even the posing back then in some of the ads were doll like.

[Anonymous No.8615828]

>>8615806
It was mine also, I think I spoke to you, but I'm off oldschool now. It's surprisingly hard to find the red x white.
>>8615786
Exactly; includes regency and Edwardian. More of an antique doll look, a creepy doll look in some cases. But yeah, the dolls were pretty much miniaturized clothing of the era (could be Victorian), and so were childrens clothes so it's almost saying the same thing. I think Victorian is just the one most people recognize. If anything there was less of an emphasis on 'rococo' before. Rectangle headdresses are quite the dolly look though. Were they ever worn much by people?
>>8615816
Wish it was, lolita is an awful name.

[Anonymous No.8615829]

>>8615786
I don't think modern lolita look a anything like Victorian clothing (doll or not).

[Anonymous No.8615832]

>>8615828
The length of the skirt, popular hairstyles (like ringlets- and often the artificiality of these wigs) is very doll like as opposed to straight up historical/ elegant. It's to look creepy, a little bit off.

[Anonymous No.8615839]

>>8615829
Really? Well it depends on the brand. I'd agree with modern chiffon ap, the only unifying feature is the poofy skirt. The cleaner/ sleeker looks are more retro, and the ott stuff can be a bit rococo.

[Anonymous No.8615845]

Lets lament over jetj

[Anonymous No.8615847]

>>8615845
>and the time I almost won this

[Anonymous No.8615858]

>>8615847
So much lovely green,

[Anonymous No.8615862]

>>8615858
What a loss

[Anonymous No.8615864]

>>8615862
I miss their crazy details, but mainly I miss them not being shit quality.

[Anonymous No.8615880]

>>8615786

The Victorian porcelain doll look was a trend in lolita for a while, so that helps explains why you can see so much similarity. I don't know if it was neccessarily the basis of lolita or if it's just another trend though (like how we're currently knee-deep in original prints trend).

There was a pretty wide range of clothing in the GLBs, actually, ranging from ridiculously over-frilled to simple and elegant, and there were more casual clothes and housewear (like actual night gowns and such). I don't know, I think we've just gone through too many trends to ever be able to describe it as specifically one thing or another anymore.

[Anonymous No.8615949]

Requesting any 1990's or earlier coords/street snaps

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[Anonymous No.8615989]

I hate it when people say striped socks are automatically ita. They can be really cute.

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[Anonymous No.8615995]

Why is this already autosaging?

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>>8615663
I'm pretty sure someone is selling this on Lolita sales in English.

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>>8615995
Weird, it was coming up on the second page for ages until >>8615997 posted

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>>8615999
are you on mobile? did you put sage as your default email or anything?

[Anonymous No.8616012]

Gurololi was really cute

[Anonymous No.8616013]

>>8616011
Nope, I'm on my laptop

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>>8615816
Yeah I always found it odd that dolly kei is a style that well, isn't that doll like. To be fair, "dolly" and "lolita" are both nicknames for "dolores"
In some alternate universe lolita is called "dolly" or "alice"
Recently I saw some girl at my college in a cute old school-ish gothic coord. I didn't want to say the L word in public so I complimented her on her bag and said "it's from mu-fish, right?"
I hate having to avoid the correct name because of the sexual connotations

[Anonymous No.8616186]

>>8615705
>>8615997
I allready own it, but I've never worn it. Nothing i put together seems "good enough"

[Anonymous No.8616190]

>>8616186
Well if you don't think you're up to the challenge I can take it off your hands....

[Anonymous No.8616272]

>>8616013
Wow these are fantastic, I never thought I'd see this coorded, and in blue!

[Anonymous No.8616539]

>>8615828
>the dolls were pretty much miniaturized clothing of the era (could be Victorian), and so were childrens clothes
i'm not so sure about that. when you look at the kind of victorian clothing that's the closest to the lolita shape, which seems to be around 1870 (and that only works for children, since adult women at the time have floor length dresses), you notice they mostly wear dresses with very little lace and pointy boots. no trace of otks, rectangle headdresses like you said, bonnets (except on babies), rounded shoes or big lace...

[Anonymous No.8616545]

>>8616539
...but you find antique bisque dolls that look like this.

[Anonymous No.8616548]

>>8616539
The children wore shortened more comfortable versions of the adult clothes. Lolita took the same a approach so they ended up looking the same.

[Anonymous No.8616569]

>>8616539
Otks where always worn by both children and adults, A bare leg would be unacceptable. bonnets where often worn by both children and adults too. You seem to have very little understanding of period clothes I suggest doing a bit of research maybe going through some old Victorian and Edwardian post cards.

[Anonymous No.8616710]

>>8615845
>mfw i saw in coords recent JetJ
>fabric look like shit and shiny, cheap-like
>print too
I prefer plain or old school JetJ definitely.

[Anonymous No.8616809]

>>8607442
Anon you are so kind to think of me.
The meet that I wanted the tartan school coord for has actually already been.
I ended up wearing pic related with a Baby school cardigan and baby bow clips in my hair in braids.
This Meta set is gorgeous thank you for linking me. I still would like a blue green tartan jsk or op so I really appreciate it.

[Anonymous No.8616815]

>>8610432
Hey anon could you please post an image of it and the measurements. I might be interested.

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>>8616809
Anon I'm selling this if you're interested.

[Anonymous No.8616837]

would you qualify this dress old school lolita? Or should i back off? I really love this dress and think about getting it.

[Anonymous No.8616854]

http://ord.yahoo.co.jp/o/auction/_ylt=A7dPFlk89_lVPS4AiHo6hPB7;_ylu=X3oDMTBhZXRzZ2NiBHZ0aWQDQVMwMDY-/SIG=12ca9stgm/EXP=1442531516/**http%3a//page11.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/n150931610

[Anonymous No.8616856]

am i the only one that gets a relaxing/comforting feeling from old school lolita? Just even seeing old japan street snaps makes me warm and fuzzy. Anything 2007/2008 and below makes me feel happy.

[Anonymous No.8616859]

I was wondering if any of you seagulls had sold all of your modern lolita/prints before wearing/buying only solely oldschool?

I have a lot of printed pieces and modern dresses from different styles (mainly gothic and classic) but I very rarely wear them and have lost a lot of interest in lolita outside of old school. I've never sold a big portion of my wardrobe before so am a little hesitant.

[Anonymous No.8616860]

http://ord.yahoo.co.jp/o/auction/_ylt=A7dPFflv.flVOAIAMUI6hPB7;_ylu=X3oDMTBhZXRzZ2NiBHZ0aWQDQVMwMDY-/SIG=12bq9b66t/EXP=1442532079/**http%3a//page9.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/k170980266

[Anonymous No.8616879]

>>8616837
The dress is not even lolita, there's no way you can fit a petti under that.

But if you like it, buy it!

[Anonymous No.8616881]

>>8616859
>(mainly gothic and classic)
do you have any solid iw pieces you'd like to get rid of?

I'd say just do it slowly a few pieces at a time.

[Anonymous No.8616882]

>>8616856
I think it's because it's simpler. I love a bit of modern sweet lolita, but a lot of older stuff is subdued and there's almost something more relaxed about it overall.

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>>8616854
>>8616860
???

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>>8616879
Oh i see thanks anon. But if it isnt lolita then what would you qualify it? It reminded me of that old Moitie shiro dress

[Anonymous No.8616893]

>>8616882
yeah. nowadays all that makeup and falsies and lenses and wigs with all the prints and accessories it just makes me feel different. I also love old japan (well..in the nineties isnt that old) it's so comforting to even think about it.

[Anonymous No.8616897]

>>8616893
I have nothing against the false stuff, but I've personally given up wearing wigs because I realised I was only wearing them because I didn't feel like my own hair was good enough or neat enough for Lolita.
I feel so much better about myself since giving them up. I genuinely started thinking that I needed them to look good. I keep one or two pastel coloured ones, but I'm not letting myself buy natural (but different to mine) coloured wigs because my hair "doesn't match my coord"

[Anonymous No.8616917]

>>8616897
For me, I have pretty nice hair, but I find it difficult to style it by myself and have it stay nice. So wigs just make it easier, it also lets me have short hair without cutting my own

[Anonymous No.8616921]

>>8615989
I feel the same. I love them!

[Anonymous No.8616923]

>>8616881
Yes I do anon, I have to decide what to sell but I have a few solid IW pieces like
lolibrary.org/apparel/linderhof-jumperskirt


That's probably a good idea. I think I might sell the busiest/loudest prints first.

[Anonymous No.8617332]

>>8616890
Nothing. It's just a simple dress

[Anonymous No.8617916]

old school velvet

[Anonymous No.8618243]

>>8616545
Oooh as a doll collector I can't help but point out that that is an old doll in a new dress.

These are not the sort of dresses bisque dolls originally wear and its actually quite taboo in the doll community. To put it in perspective they're the ita of the doll communities.

I'm only saying something because there's literally someone in the ita thread claiming some ita looks like "an old porcelain doll" and it hit a nerve in both hobbies for me lol

[Anonymous No.8618254]

I want this

[Anonymous No.8618258]

>>8616545
Also I agree with what you're saying but I mean come on, old school lolita dresses look nothing like that. Except for the ita ones.

[Anonymous No.8618274]

>>8615967
Does anyone know what dress this is?
I really need this in my life

[Anonymous No.8618277]

>>8618274
It's the same as the one in pic related right?
Also contributing.

[Anonymous No.8618279]

>>8618274
I don't remember the name but its moitie. I hope that helps!

[Anonymous No.8618280]

>>8618277

>>8618279
I figured it was! I'll look around for it then, thank you.

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>>8618280

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>>8617916
Fick that op is gorgeous

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>>8616888
What are you on about? It isn't unusual in these threads to post links to related auctions

[Anonymous No.8619617]

>>8610341
jsk in blue if you dont already have it
http://page2.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/b166920816

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>>8610341
>>8619617
I'm hoping for your sake you have money atm anon (and also like blue) as the op and headbow are here too http://page9.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/k184546098

[Anonymous No.8620897]

>>8619617
That's not AB though

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>>8619628
Bless your soul anon i had this skirt in ivory and sold and ive wanted to get my hands on it again in another colorway. It's really affordable too

[Anonymous No.8621020]

>>8609001
Never thought I'd see anyone in 2015 with virgin mobile

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>>8620897
Yes it is

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>>8607283
Her expression really makes the whole thing.
>tfw I still secretly love bags in an entirely different color than the coord

[Anonymous No.8622033]

>>8621037
Yeah, no it's not. It's an inferior series called Bouquet Print. The listing name is wrong but if you use your eyes you will see that it is different. It's much newer than AB too.

[Anonymous No.8622047]

>>8622033
Wasn't it from 08? So it's still pretty old. I remember it when i was still a burando baby. Btw thanks! I knew it wasnt AB but it was released so long ago i couldnt remember what it's name was. I am also inlive with AB and hope to find it to. Gonna get all the good old meta.

[Anonymous No.8622066]

>>8620897
ah sorry, you're right, it must have been mis-named. I'm not familiar with meta at the best of times so i just went by the listing, sorry to get your hopes up.

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>>8616859
This is the exact same with me, but I'm ott sweet.
I'm really very hesitant as well.