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8505447 No.8505447 [Reply] [Original]

Let's see those long skirted aristocrat looks, and the lolita coords that are borderline aristo.

Hard mode: No fucking underskirts.

Nightmare mode: Self-post.

Noob mode: Post coords you legitimately do not know how to categorize. Aristo? Lolita? Regular gothic? Historical garb?? Let us argue it out.

>> No.8505452
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8505452

>>8505447
i never know how to categorize this dress.

>> No.8505455
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8505455

>>8505452
???

>> No.8505458
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8505458

>>8505455
this one is lolita, but with a long silhouette.

>> No.8505460
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8505460

>>8505458

>> No.8505465
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>>8505460

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>>8505465

>> No.8505468
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>>8505467

>> No.8505473
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>>8505468

>> No.8505475
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>>8505473

>> No.8505478
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8505478

>>8505475

<--this, to me, is the aristocrat silhouette. the fuller skirts that end around the shins with a petti feel more like lolita to me, no matter how long.

but i can accept that things change

>> No.8505483
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8505483

>>8505478

whereas this feels like mature lolita

>> No.8505486
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8505486

>>8505483

this blurs the line

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8505488

>>8505486

despite poof, this feels more aristo. is it the styling? am i inconsistent?

>> No.8505489
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8505489

>>8505488

long lolita

>> No.8505492
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8505492

that was the same dress, different coloray, similar styling. i do not understand my own classification system.

>>8505489

>> No.8505495
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>>8505492

aristocrat

>> No.8505498
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8505498

>>8505495

>> No.8505500
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8505500

>>8505498

>> No.8505502
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>>8505500

>> No.8505508
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>>8505502

>> No.8505512
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>>8505508
triple fortune pushes the hemline length but still feels mostly lolita to me.

>> No.8505516
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>>8505512

>> No.8505518
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>>8505516

this is aristo

>> No.8505522
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>>8505518

this is long-skirted lolita

>> No.8505523
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>>8505522

classic aristo

>> No.8505527
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8505527

>>8505523

aristo

>> No.8505529
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>>8505527

lolita on the left, aristo on right

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>>8505529

aristo

>> No.8505533
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8505533

>>8505531

lolita

>> No.8505535
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8505535

mature lolita, that is

>>8505533

low-poof lolita

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8505538

>>8505535

definitively aristocrat

>> No.8505542
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8505542

>>8505538

some more aristo

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>>8505542

>> No.8505548
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>>8505546

lolita

>> No.8505560
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>>8505548

aristo

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>>8505560

more aristo

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>>8505565

>> No.8505574
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>>8505570

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>>8505574

>> No.8505582
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>>8505579

borderline

>> No.8505585
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>>8505582
seems more aristo next to a clear lolita

>> No.8505587
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>>8505585

aristo on left

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>>8505587

aristoooo

>> No.8505590
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8505590

on second look, seems like depoofed lolita. borderline as hell.

>>8505588

this is clearly aristocrat.

>> No.8505592
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>>8505590

Elegant Gothic Aristocrat(TM)

>> No.8505593
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8505593

>>8505592

more aristo

>> No.8505595

>>8505452
mermaid princess. that's a category now.

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>>8505593

>> No.8505598
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8505598

>>8505595
lol

>>8505597
long lolita?

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>>8505598

more long lolita

>> No.8505605
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>>8505602

>> No.8505608
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>>8505605

probably aristo, but the full skirt and bonnet... siriusc messes with me.

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>>8505608
saw the thumbnail wrong, that is def aristo.

this is long lolita on the right.

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>>8505611
or fucking regular lolita.

here is a nice longer, mature lolita skirt.

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8505618

>>8505613

ditto

>> No.8505620
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8505620

>>8505618

borderline

>> No.8505625
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>>8505620

short aristo?

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>>8505523
I was just about to post a different picture of this same coordinate. I used to adore this girl, I don't know what she's up to nowadays though. I follow her Tumblr but she doesn't post that often. Here's another one of her coordinates that I think fits into this grey area.

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>>8505625

borderline, but i want it to be classic aristo.

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>>8505628
that one feels closer to lolita to me, but i know my classification needs work.

>>8505632
borderline/not a cohesive coord

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>>8505634

another borderline, leaning toward short aristo.

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8505636

>>8505635

???

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8505637

Posting for concrit.
This was my first time wearing aristocrat.

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>>8505636

classic aristo? gorgeous in any case.

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>>8505637
the contrast of the straight-line jacket and the full, layered-look skirt seems to ask for a higher hairstyle or more substantial headdress.

for balance if that makes sense. the contrast of jacket and skirt with platforms is very gothic aristocrat though.

>>8505639

long lolita

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8505648

>>8505644

classic aristocrat?

>> No.8505650

>>8505458
This is how I want to look all winter.

>> No.8505651
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8505651

>>8505648

long lolita/borderline (right)

>> No.8505653
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>>8505651

long lolita

>> No.8505661
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>>8505653

long gothic lolita

>> No.8505665
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8505665

>>8505661

aristocrat, vibes similar to >>8505637

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8505667

>>8505665

aristo

>> No.8505669
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8505669

>>8505667

long lolita

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8505671

The only aristo coord I've ever done. I think it's pretty okay? Idk.

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8505672

>>8505669

aristocrat as all fucking hell

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>>8505671
i would balance your torso with a vest or corset, in black. the transition from clean-lined, dramatic gothic skirt to ruffly blouse is a big leap.

hair/wig is on point, though.

>>8505672

>> No.8505676

>>8505644
Thank you for the concrit anon I really appreciate it. I agree an up do or a bigger headpiece would work really well, I'll definitely try this in the future.

I'm glad to hear that the pieces chosen match the aesthetic though. Thank you.

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>>8505675

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8505679

>>8505676
glad to help! i feel like the boystylers are all that remains of the original aristocrat vibe sometimes. really would love to see more femme.

>>8505678

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8505681

>>8505679


i want to rub her hands down with hand cream.

>> No.8505683
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8505683

>>8505681

the more i look at these pics, the more it seems to me that the difference between lolita and aristocrat is somehow similar to maiko vs geisha.

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>>8505683
almost done dumping

>> No.8505686
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>>8505685

another ambiguous case

>> No.8505688
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8505688

in that i am not sure if it is aristocrat or retro.

>>8505686

long gothic lolita?

>> No.8505689

>>8505625
no, def mature lolita

>> No.8505691
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8505691

>>8505688

fucking gorgeous aristocrat.

>> No.8505692

>>8505679
Do you wear femme aristo yourself anon? I'd love to see photos of your coords if you do.

I feel the same way sadly.

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8505693

>>8505689
after looking at many of these aristocrat coords, i can agree.

>>8505689

last one. it's been real.

>> No.8505694

>>8505692
i wear ouji and masc aristo. poorfag but i might diversify in time.

>> No.8505699
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>>8505693
no, here is the last one.

goodnight all

>> No.8505809

>>8505598
John pose?????!!!!

>> No.8505813

>>8505809
*jojo

>> No.8505821

>>8505473
>>8505468
>>8505467
>>8505465
>>8505492
Tea length in classic lolita is pretty much an established thing now, isn't it?

>> No.8505934

>>8505821
Yeah, I shit tons of tea length and don't consider myself aristo at all. I think it also has a lot to do with styling and accessories. If you're a short-ass lolita wearing a longer dress, it doesn't automatically make you aristo

>> No.8505938
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8505938

Got one (not sure if posted already)

>> No.8506069

>>8505500
Choke looks like she's pissed to be stuffed into that ugly thing.

>> No.8506124

>>8505455
>be me
>love this dress and Ave María
>is 1,55 m tall
>would look ridiculous in it

>> No.8506632
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8506632

>>8505475
>the holy grail dream set that i'll probably never own
>mfw

>> No.8506727

>>8505671
That's a gorgeous skirt, anon! I'd wear boots or add some form of socks/tights, though - the bare foot is really jarring. I'd also go for a shorter hat or a wider brim.

>> No.8506779

>>8505651
Above knee isn't very long. It's a very usual mm dress, regular classic lolita.

>> No.8506785

>>8506779
Oh wait, I misunderstood, thought you meant girl on the left was long lolita, sorry

>> No.8507371

>>8505637
Nice Roland jacket. However, the other anons are right: pile up your hair a bit for balance. With your hair down, you look very youthful and sweet-- putting it up will help elongate your face to match the rest of the aristo silhouette.
Some darker eye makeup and contouring may help, too.I'm also a round faced aristo, and those are pretty much my lifeline. It may be hard to do dark makeup with hooded eyes, but it'll bring your face and head into the rest of the coord.

>> No.8507712

>>8507371
Thanks anon.
Next time I will wear my hair in an up do and look online for aristocrat hair tutorials/images.
I know I have a really round face and I've always been a bit concerned with looking the part for aristo so I really appreciate your advice.
Thank you kindly for the tips. I will try darker eye make-up and conturing. Would you be so kind as to share a photo of yourself in aristo? I'd really like to see another round faced aristo and how you better match the aesthetic with your makeup and hairdo.

>> No.8508083

>>8505637
Try standing less bow legged and slouched. It's not very aristocratic and better posture would improve the way you look. Even on a relatively casual picture.

>> No.8508270

>>8508083
Thanks for the advice anon. I wasn't aware I was standing bow legged. I am trying to work on my posture, I have mild scoliosis and a few other slight spine problems. I'll definetly do my best to correct my posture in photos and work on improving it.

>> No.8508772
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8508772

Definitely aristocrat.

>> No.8508838

>>8505691
more of this please? It looks kinda aristro but modern at the same time. I dig it.

>> No.8513640

Don't die.

>> No.8516831

>>8505636
that girl does mostly otome coords, so...

>> No.8516864
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8516864

honestly i have more trouble telling aristo and victorian goth apart than aristo and long-skirted lolita...

>> No.8516997
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>>8516864
that looks more aristo to me due to the hair styling and the general details/construction of the garment.

victorian goth directly influenced gothic lolita and aristocrat so there is some overlap. however, makeup and hairstyling and garment construction/details can help differentiate. pic related is obviously victorian goth: sexy bodice, gothic makeup and hair, and fabric whose shine is remniscent of fetishwear.

others are less easy to categorize, and i think that is fine. ultimately it may be about whether the influence is more the Western Goth or Eastern Lolita scene; Eastern Goth also exists and has its own neo-victorian look (lots of alice auaa, yosuke boots, etc.). if the styling cannot be pinpointed in a category it might be a "it is what you make if it" type of deal.

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>>8516997
another example. the emphasized bodice, plain hair styling (dyed, long, and natural - wigs are not big in goth, since it is more an identity/lifestyle and elements are often incorporated more fully into daily life)... it could be made aristocrat with more focus on the hair and face. >>8505683 is similar but the styling is clearly influenced by Japanese street fashion.

>> No.8517015

>>8505452
Who makes the blue dress?

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>>8517060

>> No.8517100

>>8517015
Juliette et Justine

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>>8505475
Muh dream dress ;-;

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>>8517062
RIP jasmine. You were best boy

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>> No.8532097

>>8530520
That's Hizaki

>> No.8533629

>>8505628
She's become fat and doesn't wear lolita much anymore, last I heard of her she was selling most of her lolita wardrobe on FB because she couldn't fit in most of her clothes anymore.

>> No.8538191

>>8505523
>>8505632

Does anyone have more of this brown/not black aristo?

>> No.8539882

>>8538191
Honestly, the first one is Natural kei and the second is just classic lolita taken from a topdown angle. The dress is clearly knee length on her.

>> No.8539906

Are there any EGA bloggers still around? I have a few aristo skirts and jackets, but I could use some style inspiration.

>> No.8542970

>>8539882
Yeah, they were just the first non-black photos I linked, but I do like this look on brown or muted colors a lot, but mostly I always see it used into steampunk.

>> No.8543093

>>8539882
she intended it to be Classic Aristocrat. the cut/bustle and general styling also point to that, rather than Natural Kei.

http://daily-lolita.livejournal.com/4749656.html

>>8538191
i posted everyhing i had and could find, unfortunately. brands such as IW sometimes make tea-length or longer dresses, so maybe searching by dress name could bring more results.

>>8539906
i only know of boystyle EGA bloggers.

>tfw the underskirt trend in lolita is taking off while people forget about aristocrat

>> No.8543174

Is it possible to wear aristocrat on summer? All coords look so wintry

>> No.8547606

>>8543174
long, flowing skirts are worn by many people in hot climates.