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>links to buy things (likely outdated)
>docs.google. com /document/d/1AZmuF-cyQucc-0OVAca9gtS6m_6k8OqOQHx5daXnIy0/edit

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>style out there
>/watch?v=WblNctc3ys0

>kawaii pateen kurebayashi playlist
>/watch?v=okpDSnj67nc&list=PL7k_Q9ypWTRI4ck89bGxi2vGgJTWj0pi7

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Aaaaand time for an awful half assed attempt by a cosplayer

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I was just getting on to start a decora thread myself and see there's actually one, damn!

I'm working on a coord for AWA right now. I have a question, though. Those suuuuper tiny barrettes, and the clips where you can't see the clasps on the back of them (so it's just the design/item showing)... Where the hell are they from? I see a ton of Japanese decora wearing them, but I haven't been able to find them online, and I haven't seen them on the webshops of any stores or anything. Maybe it's an in-store only thing and I'm destined to use clunky barrettes forever...

Pic related, I'm especially interested in the ones like the 123, heart, and star clips.

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>>8477973

>didn't notice the absolute edge in the corner until I posted it

Apologizing profusely, have something nicer. That was just the first example I saw in my decora folder orz

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>> No.8479611

what's the secret to putting on hair clips? When i put them on they look like shit but they look so cute in these pictures.

>> No.8479615

>>8479611
Kawaii pateen made a video about this.

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>> No.8481683

>>8479615
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6sYQQRKPrig

This video is so good. The mystery has been solved.

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Anyone got any styles they like to see crossovers with? There seems to be a few shironuri decora coords that are pretty good.

>> No.8482386

>>8477973
Everyone seems to be looking for them and no one can find them. Last I heard they are sold instore only at places like 6%dokidoki or swimmer, but I have no way of verifying this.

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Found these on etsy earlier, they must be available somewhere online!

https://www.etsy.com/uk/listing/211112245/set-of-6-purple-assorted-shapes-hair

Also dumping a few links for plastic barrettes that I found earlier
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/20pcs-Assorted-Color-Plastic-Cute-Bowknot-Shape-Hair-Clips-Heads-Decorations-D-/201252882588?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&var=&hash=item2edb9b489c
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/24-Mixed-Color-Assorted-Plastic-Hair-Barrette-Clip-Bow-Pin-DIY-Craft-/131556096347?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item1ea15ab95b
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VINTAGE-OLD-SCHOOL-LOT-OF-70-CHILDRENS-HAIR-BARRETTES-GIRLS-LOVE-THESE-COLORS-/181797444616?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2a53f8dc08

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>>8482543
Thank you so much! These are exactly what I was looking for. As for the links, I think those are mostly Goodie's clips, right? I've seen a lot of those at Walmart and stuff still, and got some of them that are the plastic ribbons. Sadly, they're the kind that have to bend the plastic when you wear a new one so I think they'll probably break easily (at least the ones I have are like that. I haven't worn them much though since they're really brightly colored).

I also think that the lack of the clips like that pic is why a lot of western decora coords seem really unbalanced when it comes to barrettes and clips - most Japanese decora seem to have some clips like this to help balance out the weight so it's not too many heavy barrettes.

>> No.8482595

>>8482574
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Pack-of-6-Beach-Bright-Coloured-Star-Snap-Hair-Clip-Hair-Slides-Kirpy-Hair-Grips-/141707867927?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item20fe727717

Here's some more I found. Not the exact style I was looking for, but they're cute still!

>> No.8482820

Found some of the 123 clips!

http://www.amazon.com/Eden-Girls-Hinge-Plastic-Barrettes/dp/B00QIUPU38

>> No.8482855

>>8482227

those are glorious, who's on the far left?

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>>8482855
I'm not sure, sadly. I'll post the rest of what I have though!

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>>8482888
I don't personally like most of the looks from this group, but it's shironuri + decora so here you go

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>>8482894
One here

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>>8482902
And that's the last one I've got.

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>>8482883
okay im definitely fallen for
circus-involving stuff is kind of a soft spot for me

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>>8482883
the middle one in this one aswell

found a whole load around here in reverse search - hope it's interesting/useful somehow without getting too off track with the thread

>> No.8482923

>>8477547
is "kuronuri" a thing?

>> No.8482925

>>8482920
http://qhoto.org/130316/index.html oops forget the link

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If I could see more of the outfit I think I might like this.

>> No.8484006

>>8482923
I wouldn't mind, it could be really nice.

>> No.8484019

>>8484006
No.
There is no way that anyone in the west could get away with it without it ending up on a tumblr anti-racism page.
The added effect is it might caused a temporary internet shit storm that could draw the attention of edgy kids who would join in and flood the decora tags.

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selfposting, what do you guys think?

>> No.8484469

>>8484468
Cute!

A different skirt could be good though

>> No.8484715

>>8484468
Super cute but i agree with >>8484469 on the skirt!
Maybe a full color pink or yellow skirt?
Also the one green clip that overlaps with the pink one bugs me a little.

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>>8484468
Adorable! I third the skirt change, but if you're wearing it in the meanwhile I think it's still cute.

>> No.8486150

>>8484468

>That TsumTsum shirt
I want it.

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>>8484468
fourthing the skirt. maybe a 6% dokidoki-esque one.

>> No.8486504

>>8486150
http://www.romwe.com/Cartoon-Print-Multicolor-T-Shirt-p-103671-cat-669.html
Here's the link. It's sold out now, but they might restock it.

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>> No.8489267

>>8482923
I was thinking about this the other day, and laughed when I realized it literally translates to "blackface".
Looks cool tho.

>> No.8489475

Are there any rules to this style? Ive been wanting to try it out for a while now!

>> No.8489772

>>8489475
The most important thing is to make sure you put a lot of thought into the coordination - because there's not really rules on what makes something decora (because you can wear lots of different styles of clothing, colors, etc...) it's easy to get lost in all of the accessories. That's what I think most people struggle with.

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I love decora in oastel color schemes like >>8477621
I'm irritated that people think it's fairy kei though. Pic unrelated. I just like kurebayashi and the fact that she looked cute with braces gives me hope, because i currently have them

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>>8489825
*pastel. sorry. just took some benadryl and am really out of it. have some more kurebayashi with braces

>> No.8489864

>>8489825

anyone happen to know what brand this shirt is by?

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>> No.8491941

>>8489827
She looks so cute with braces! It really fits her look

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anybody ordered from 6% dokidoki's international site?

>> No.8492768

>>8489267
It translates to "blackface", but since it's an otherworldly/demonic look using black paint and not a reproduction of a caricature mocking someone's race, maybe it could be a thing?

>> No.8493236

tips for building the base of a decora coord? im thinking of wearing it to go down to a con.

>> No.8493256

Anyone know where I can find a salior collar cardigan in larger sizes? I only found one on yesstyle but it was really small and I want it llose and baggy.

>> No.8493548

If you don't mind shopping from them (because some people do, I guess) Hot Topic has a sailor-style cardigan in plus sizes, and I know in store where I live they have it in some smaller sizes too. If you're smaller, a big one would definitely be kinda baggy.

http://www.hottopic.com/hottopic/Archive/Features/SwimtotheEdge/Tanks/Navy+Sailor+Girls+Cardigan+Plus+Size-10360054.jsp

>> No.8493555

To each their own. I'm not hating, but I wonder if any of those girls lay down at night and realize that they missed a few barrettes and stuff from their hair.

>> No.8493779

I'm going to a harajuku fashion walk this weekend and I have no way of doing a full decora coord, but what do you guys recommend with a pink seifuku? Should I take it a more fairy kei route?

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>> No.8494360

>>8493779
Kinda curious which you're going to anon?

>> No.8494563

>>8494360
I hope I'm quoting right I've never posted before
I'm going to one in Los Angeles hosted by Fairytale Boutique and I'm at a loss for an outfit I can pull out of my ass

>> No.8494571

>>8489864
I think it's her own design

>> No.8495320

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>> No.8495464

Anyone know some good hoodies or sweaters for decora? Preferably not too pricey

>> No.8496103

>>8495464
There's a lot of cute ones on eBay. I think this Ugly Doll one in the blue x pink colorway would be pretty cute for a decora coord.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Japanese-Mori-Girl-Kawaii-Ugly-Doll-Monster-Hoodie-with-Hat-Cute-Sweater-Shirt-/161527089179?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&var=&hash=item259bc3c81b

And some other misc eBay ones:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/FRUiTs-HARAJUKU-DECORA-CARE-BEAR-Hoody-4-ARM-Jacket-2PC-/350329259415?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5191404597

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Japan-CUTiE-DECORA-CARE-BEAR-Teddy-Hoodie-4-ARM-Jacket-/350363587643?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item51934c143b

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Kawaii-Decora-Multi-Pastel-Color-Polkadot-Fur-Hooded-Heart-Pocket-Parka-Jacket-/400249741616?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&var=&hash=item5d30be6130

Bodyline also has a jacket I think would be pretty cute, but it's a bit more pricey.

http://www.bodyline.co.jp/bodyline/showAll.asp?type=left&subType1=Lol&subType2=Jac

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What do you guys think about DIY decora??
I'm working on these shoes right now

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>>8496554

>> No.8496578

>>8496554
Those look...really gross. I can see the concept being cute in an illustration but...not like this. Did you not buy new sneakers just for this project?Because those already look really shabby. Sorry anon.

>> No.8496582

>>8496554
I have to be brutally honest, this looks nasty.

>> No.8496584

>>8496554
oh hon

>> No.8496589

>>8496584
Hon?

Really?

How old are you?

>> No.8496751

>>8496554
Did you really glue candy to your shoes tho

>>8496563
kek

>> No.8496829

>>8496554
Oh dear god I feel like I'm on some tween forum sharing fruits scans for the very first time.

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>> No.8497110

how2 decora for men in black and white?

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>>8497110
Honestly I'd say just go for the same kind of thing a female would, but find some sick black and white pants to go with it or something. I've seen a decent amount of decora coords with pants or shorts before.

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>> No.8498353

>>8496892
That hair on the left is perf.

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>>8496554
Thanks anon, these are going right into our next horrible handmade/regretsy thread

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>>8496554
pics when u wear them out

>> No.8502335

>>8496554
This is fucking awful

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Dumping a ton of street snaps.

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Little decora-related haul from yesterday ft my hair snap bowl lmao

Most of the clips in the bucket are new, maybe 10-15 I've had for a while. The flea market had a bunch of people selling generic hairclips in a lot of different styles, and I got a few that were different shapes (bears!) which was exciting. Also, HK watch and cute heart pin. My favorite find was the set of clearish bow-shapes pins, because they have the back like the ones I see in a lot of street snaps, where you can't actually see the back of them while you're wearing them.

>> No.8510054

>>8484468
You yourself are very cute, but if you're trying to emulate 'authentic' decora (which you're not obliged to do, by any means) I'd recommend even /more/ layering, more voluminous garments, more variation in your fringe hairclips and a color palette with more direction (>>8482898 is a very good example of that)

>> No.8510077

>>8482923
I totally support the idea of kuronuri, but yeah.... we should call it something else. OP pic girl looks great even though her eye makeup / neck "blending" is sloppy

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>> No.8513615

>>8496589
Probably 24 and from anywhere between Texas to Alabama. It's in our vocab. Sage for OT

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bump

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>tfw i hate mahouprince but i love and want her wardrobe and accessories
life is suffering

>> No.8517121

>>8516783
Idk why westerners don't really get that what makes Japanese decora better is they for the most part have a better idea of when to stop with the hair clips to avoid the cluttered helmet look.

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Selfpost because I want some feedback on this coord. I'm still waiting on a few accessories in the mail, and I know I need to work on the hairclip arrangement a good bit OTL

I'm kind of torn on if I want to go with some yellow/pink designed socks/leggings, or leave it as is though. Any suggestions?

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>> No.8521800

>>8505975
Why's part of her face white here?

>> No.8523732

>>8521800
it's probably just weird camera lighting.

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What is wrong with her face?

>> No.8524988

>>8524732
She always got an odd manface and the filters make it worse.

>> No.8525038

>>8524988
No it's mostly her mouth. How is she smiling with that sliver of both rows of teeth showing? It borders on nightmare fuel.

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>> No.8529585

>>8496554
didnt i see these in some bad etsy thread

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>> No.8535054

>>8535037
Where is that big somewhat filled Hello Kitty at? I saw SanrioPalace took some pics with it too. Is it like a toy donation thing?

>> No.8536461

>>8517738
I'm not a fan of green but this is good! Yellow and pink legwarmers might look nice and draw a bit of attention to the lower half.

I'm intrigued about your necklace. Sauce?

>> No.8536464

>>8535054
It's a time capsule. Google "Sebastian Matsuda time after time". I think that's the name anyway

>> No.8536470

>>8536464
thanks!

>> No.8536763

>>8536461
Thanks! I think legwarmers would actually be a pretty good idea, now that you mention it!

As for the necklace, it's a stretchy necklace from the kid's section at walmart I got for a few bucks, and I hotglued a safety pin to the back of the etch-a-sketch and just pinned it to the necklace.

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>> No.8545185

bampu

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I am working on getting more into decora, this was my first attempt at decora style hair clips and makeup!
I need to get some falsies but besides that what could I do to improve the look? I feel like I mostly need to do more with my hair.

>> No.8546371

>>8546361
the rhinestones kill it for me to be honest, mostly because it looks like you dunked your face in a bucket. Something about them just doesn't really scream cute to me. And you need a wider variety of hair clips than just the walmart ones. I'm really torn on the eye-makeup but I kind of like it.

>> No.8546394

>>8546371
Oh that was what I was going for with the rhinestones, just kind of craziness, but if it doesn't look good I will do it differently! Thank you
And I do agree on more varied hair clips, most of mine were pastel and not sparkly so I wasn't sure what else to put and I think I need more to fill in gaps and make it less heavy looking but haven't really been able to find small clips. Where would be a good place to get clips? I just usually get my stuff at Claire's or anime conventions but it's not really enough

>> No.8547349

>>8546394
I found a shitton of cheap hairclips ($1 a bag) that were smaller at the fleamarket. Also, eBay.

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So, do you guys consider stuff like this decora? OTT without the barrette helmet, I mean. Or more general jfashion?

>> No.8549626

>>8509869
I love those bracelets with the big round beads, Claire's had them way back when but the elastic sucked.

also,
>tfw no qt decora friend to get dressed with and twin and go out every sunday just to look cute and shop and eat outside in the nice sunlight

>tfw decora threads give me more nostalgia than anything in the world

>tfw no 2007

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>>8525038
She might have an overbite and is insecure about it so she's smiling with her top row of teeth forced right onto her bottom. I've done it in the mirror once, kek. Or she just has really perfectly aligned teeth. Or maybe her bottom lip moves down a little too far when she smiles. I dunno, it's not too weird.

>> No.8553033

>>8496554
This is some regretsy type shit...

>> No.8553055

>>8538648
Does this person have a blog? Google didn't get a source with reverse image search.

>> No.8553293

>>8553055
If you look through Prince's tumblr, you'll probably find it? I know they were in the photoset, so they probably reblogged it at some point or another.

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>> No.8554715

>>8546361
I'm gonna be blunt. This is terrible. It looks like a middle schooler's attempt at decora after seeing fruits magazine scans. You need to do minimal, simple, or generic "kawaii" makeup for decora because it's such an OTT style. This looks clownish. Also most jfashions don't use heavy lipstick. That absolutely has to go.

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>> No.8555108

>>8477719
>>8496554
>>8496892
>>8514242
>>8546361
>>8554387
These are all fucking terrible and you all should feel bad

>> No.8555689

>>8553055
http://pinksugarprince.tumblr.com/

Ended up finding it by accident today, here you go anon!

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>>8554960
>that king boo ring

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>>8554715
Thanks for your response and oh well, better luck next time I guess!!
I will learn from your response, thank you anon

>> No.8557953

>>8557743
Different anon, but good that you're a lot more receptive than some people lol

Anyways, I personally think OTT makeup can be cool in a decora coord... Just not a traditional one, if you get what I mean.

I like >>8554387 a lot, but it doesn't try to be the usual layering/hairclip helmet that most decora coords are, which is why it works. Similarly enough with most decora-shironuri hybrids, there tends to be less of the usual clothing style associated with decora, or at least it's something I've noticed from what I've seen online.

>> No.8558004

https://instagram.com/p/6cgo6FvKfq/?taken-by=tokyofashion

Decora fashion walk today! A lot of cute looks. I'm liking that pants are becoming more of a thing in decora coords to be honest. What about you?

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>> No.8561440

>>8561347
>those omocat / milkbbi tumblr sweaters
kill me.

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>>8561440
>mfw i secretly like omocat

>> No.8561961

http://youtu.be/7kvYQ4MRciQ

>> No.8562006

>>8561440
There's nothing wrong with milkbbi; take the stick out of your ass.

>> No.8562077

>>8482227
Decora-guro seems like it would be cool

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