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Lolita General Anonymous Wed Jun 24 22:36:59 2015 No.8426745 [Reply] [Original]

Last thread >>8416609 in autosage

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 24 23:03:18 2015 No.8426801 Retarded question, but can anyone direct me to a page or something that lists where Misako will travel? Like a con/tea party schedule? I can't figure out moon runes very well.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 24 23:10:43 2015 No.8426826 Is there a release date for Fantastic Carnival? Or does anyone know when it'll be announced. Sorry if stupid question.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 24 23:22:14 2015 No.8426852 >>8426826 27 June is what it says on their twitter.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 24 23:28:33 2015 No.8426867 Ap usually makes their purses/pochettes from pleather, aye?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 24 23:30:23 2015 No.8426871 >>8426867 yep, "vegan leather" is just their fancy name for pleather

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 24 23:42:45 2015 No.8426887 >>8426852 Thank you!

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 25 02:18:42 2015 No.8427179 Has anyone been invoiced for their innocent world lucky/happy packs yet?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 25 02:28:26 2015 No.8427193 >>8427179 I was sent the invoice on the 20th June but no further emails on the shipping.

Anonymous Thu Jun 25 02:46:19 2015 No.8427218
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forgot to post this earlier but I saw this on my newsfeed. why do 14 year olds always make everything so dramatic? chill girl, it's just clothes, you're not announcing your sexuality to your homophobic bible thumping parents. calm down. i think if you're that young and you live in a situation where your parents won't let you dress out of the ordinary than perhaps you should wait until you're a bit older (or at least figure out a better game plan i.e. find someone who's home you could hide your clothes at)

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 25 02:54:53 2015 No.8427236 >>8427218 This, my friends, is the real definition of cringe.

Anonymous Thu Jun 25 02:59:51 2015 No.8427244

>>8427218
oh lord you can't just post that and not the comments anon.

Exactly anon, I was into lolita when i was 15 but I wasn't going online to ask strangers on how to convince my parents to spend $300 + on a single dress. I didn't want to be a ita so I didn't even try lolita until I got a stable job after uni, 7 years later.
Next time you know people are going to name their pronouns after fashion styles

>hi I am sjw, pronouns are lolita/lolitas/lolitaself
>triggers are replicas and bodyline

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 25 03:02:39 2015 No.8427250 >>8427244 capping comments now, when I took the screenshot of that post earlier I didn't have time to read the comments but I went back to read them just now and some of this shit is even cringier than her first post. shit's gold.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 25 03:13:44 2015 No.8427276 >>8427250 hnnngh don't keep me waiting

Anonymous Thu Jun 25 03:17:52 2015 No.8427281
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>>8427276
sorry, had some issues with the screen cap application I was using cutting off some of the comments!

i feel kind of bad making fun of her cause we were all 14 once but the guro shit makes me chuckle just bc of how edgy desu you can tell she wants to be. props to the sisters who were patient with her though, i can't do it for questions like these. obviously, pink is OP

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 25 03:22:32 2015 No.8427287 >>8427281 you're the best These sisters have the patience of a saint. Imagine if she had posted that on rufflechat. Pwoar.

Anonymous Thu Jun 25 08:13:00 2015 No.8427579
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>>8427218
Oh man, I was kind of an edgy desu shit when I was 14, the only Lolita for me was "gosurori" with stuffed animals covered in safety pins and insults, a black poofy dress, fishnet stockings and converses. But I was one of those little tomboy shits not-like-the-other-girls so I refused to wear skirts. Whenever I see photos from that time I cringe so hard I grind my teeth.

>tl;dr growing up is awesome

Anonymous Thu Jun 25 08:48:29 2015 No.8427606

>>8427218
Yeah gurl I get you I only identify with and feel comfortable in Gucci and everything else just like triggers me yano?

>>8427579
I am so glad I was camerashy and when I was that age. Hopefully nobody will ever link my old Gaia account back to me because I would probably die on the spot.

Anonymous Thu Jun 25 08:51:10 2015 No.8427608

>>8427218
Sometimes I'm glad that when I was 14 and started getting into Lolita it was in the dark days of the old school and egl serving as the only major community.
At least you could remake LJ accounts and start over if you made mistakes as a newbie instead of your name being plastered everywhere.

Anonymous Thu Jun 25 09:34:31 2015 No.8427660

>>8427287
I'm always surprised at how politely they reply to the most ridiculous posts. I cringe at half of the posts on the mentoring page.

Also AP's JP site says they're having a summer sale. Can anyone elaborate on what that means, or do they just discount some of their stock?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 25 09:49:59 2015 No.8427673 >>8427218 You cant know that you only feel comfortable in lolita if you haven't fucking worn it before.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 25 09:53:45 2015 No.8427674 >>8427606 I was really camera shy too, but in family photos I always looked like that. I'm sorry, family. AND I had an OC called "Yami". ITT: goth weeb phase woes

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 25 10:16:51 2015 No.8427695 File: 121 KB, 1230x1599, 2jg2fz9.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] By any chance, does anyone know the name of this ETC model? I can't seem to find it.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 25 10:57:57 2015 No.8427745 >>8427660 Only some of their stock, not the whole shop. Some items will have a bigger discount than others. They usually create a category for items on sale and the rest of the shop is unaffected by the sale.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 25 12:39:57 2015 No.8427869 >>8427218 I feel sympathy for these kinds of kids because I remember those kinds of awkward dramatic feelings.

Anonymous Thu Jun 25 12:57:04 2015 No.8427887

I want a hime wig with the big bump in the hair. Something like Glw's duchess or countess but not glw. I don't want to support them.

I looked at Arda's Victoria but the hair at the top is too thin so there is only a small bump... Not hime enough.

Suggestions please?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 25 12:59:03 2015 No.8427892 >>8427887 Sorry, I meant countess and princess

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 25 13:10:47 2015 No.8427907 >>8427887 maybe lockshop? they have a hime gyaru line

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 25 14:03:38 2015 No.8428031 Are Jane Marple Violin Series pieces rare? >>8427887 If you have any styling skills, back combing or a small insert (they had something on tv a few years back called a Bump-It) could lift up a wig.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 25 14:53:06 2015 No.8428168 >>8427887 Lockshop's hime stuff is good. Or you could order from Priscilla or something?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 25 15:21:04 2015 No.8428246 >AP sale announced Is it possible to order in the sale for mto items? >dumb hope

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 25 15:23:28 2015 No.8428256 >>8428031 >Are Jane Marple Violin Series pieces rare? Which one exactly? There are like a dozen violin series in JM's history...

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 25 15:47:41 2015 No.8428316 Do I want to buy a cute print that I genuinely would enjoy (Fantasic Carnival) or do I want to be a scalper bitch and make money off some overhyped cross print from AP US (Milky Cross)?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 25 15:50:44 2015 No.8428323 >>8427887 Cyperous hime wigs are pretty damn good.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 25 15:50:46 2015 No.8428324 >>8428246 AP sale when?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 25 15:53:08 2015 No.8428330 Chances of Lotta re-re-release?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 25 15:56:16 2015 No.8428340 >>http://www.babyssb.co.jp/info2/teaparty2015_content/ deets on this? How many new dresses do you think they'll show? Do you think it will be a shitshow to obtain them? And dammit I really want that print they're using for the background there...

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 25 15:58:11 2015 No.8428348 In the last thread someone was asking about a Dominique ED page, I'm seriously thinking about it now. she's done enough shit to be deserving of one.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 25 15:58:55 2015 No.8428351 >>8428324 Starting on 6/26 for some shops. The sale date for the online store is TBD

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 25 15:59:25 2015 No.8428352 >>8428330 well, we've already had revival Lotta, so I'd say around zero

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 25 16:25:19 2015 No.8428386 >>8427673 I was thinking this too. I hope we won't be treated (subjected) to all the deets of her Journey to Lolita. This summer's posts are bugging me more than usual summer posts.

Anonymous Thu Jun 25 17:03:10 2015 No.8428486

>>8427179
You should email them. Some people got their invoices 2 weeks ago , so I email and asked them about it. They said I was in the waiting list, and they'll let me know in a week. Emailed them 3 days ago to ask what's up and got no answer... Guess I won't get my pack.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 25 17:07:45 2015 No.8428500 File: 83 KB, 500x500, brolitas4lyfe.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Brolita 4 lyfe

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 25 17:40:57 2015 No.8428594 >>8428500 That's fucking ita as fuck brah Would hang out with qt3.14 on the left tho.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 25 18:00:46 2015 No.8428642 >>8428500 ITA AS FUCK

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 25 18:31:45 2015 No.8428712 >>8428316 Go for the print you actually want. The scalping for Milky across hasn't been so bad lately. Or wait for Dreamy Planetarium.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 25 19:38:54 2015 No.8428883 >>8428340 They usually show the fall/winter releases. Check youtube for videos of past years

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 25 19:40:17 2015 No.8428889 >>8428246 Why would mto items be included in the sale? There aren't even any current mto. Sales will be on spring/summer stock plus any fall/winter leftovers

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 25 19:43:35 2015 No.8428905 >>8428500 This is why you shouldn't stretch your ears, kids.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 25 19:45:02 2015 No.8428913 >>8428316 Milky Cross isn't very expensive right now so after the re-release it'll be even cheaper on 2nd hand markets. Just buy what you like.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 25 19:52:44 2015 No.8428940 >>8428330 Very slim, sadly.

Anonymous Thu Jun 25 20:11:53 2015 No.8429000

>>8428486
I got an email confirming my order a couple weeks ago. I got my invoice email last night.

I'm sorry if you don't get a pack, but there is still hope. I was told I was on a waiting list last time I bought an IW pack and ended up getting one and getting invoiced more than a month later. They are just incredibly slow.

Anonymous Thu Jun 25 20:25:42 2015 No.8429035
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How do you pose for outfit pictures? Especially mirror pictures. I don't want to over do it bc it's not a photoshoot or anything, but I'm trying to stop doing the pigeon-toe+holding bag thing. I see a lot of one foot ahead, arm at side.

Anonymous Thu Jun 25 20:41:18 2015 No.8429061

Wasn't sure whether to post here or the comm thread, but I'll try here first. What is a graceful way to redirect the conversation at a meet away from drama/ talking about people in the comm? I don't care about who said what, who is a bitch, etc. especially if it happened a while ago and I don't even know the person in question. I just want to drink tea and make friends. Unfortunately somehow it often comes to somebody starting something like this.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 25 20:41:46 2015 No.8429063 >>8429000 IW is hella slow. I paid for a jsk on the 17th of june and it arrived on wednesday, and I paid for the LP on the 20th and still no confirmation/shipping notice.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 25 20:43:15 2015 No.8429067 >>8429035 There was a couple of really good threads about that here a few weeks ago.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 25 21:08:21 2015 No.8429116 >>8429061 Just gracefully redirect the conversation? Say, "hey, I don't mean to change the topic, but _____" or the like and just... change the topic. It's not that hard.

Anonymous Thu Jun 25 21:26:10 2015 No.8429161

>>8429061

Be positive, anon. It's like throwing salt at snails. "I don't know about x, but they're really nice and I like x thing about them". I am sort of similar and it usually guilts the others into silence.

If they're pressuring you, they're relying on your salt. Whatever you do, don't give it to them just to go along with it.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 25 22:28:49 2015 No.8429259 >>842682 What is the brand of Fantastic Carnival?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 25 22:44:25 2015 No.8429286 Sooo is IW fantasy night series really already all sold out?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 25 22:51:30 2015 No.8429295 >>8428168 Thanks anon...I bought like 5 wigs from Prisilla. They all looked fabulous...I think I might have overdone it, lol.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 25 22:52:17 2015 No.8429297 >>8426826 I asked about the brand. I found it. Thanks.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 25 22:54:04 2015 No.8429301 >>8428712 That's good to know. And I completely forgot about Dreamy Planetarium ugh! Fingers crossed that it doesn't come out right after Fantasic Carnival, or else my wallet will be weeping.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 25 22:54:41 2015 No.8429303 >>8429286 Wait, what?? We didn't even get a chance...

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 25 22:56:16 2015 No.8429305 >>8429303 It's up. Every cut sold out. They have a message saying if there's more left from special members reservations we have a chance but guess there's none available as of right now

Anonymous Thu Jun 25 22:57:17 2015 No.8429306
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>>8429286

When I checked the site at 11am (Jp time) it wasn't up yet, and then at 11.20am it was already sold out. I'm honestly not sure if they were all uploaded as sold out since the newsletter did mention that possibility.

I sent in an order anyway, figured it couldn't hurt. I kinda want to start an email campaign like other girls have done for AP, but that would probably slow down the order processing for other girls so I'd feel bad. Maybe we can track down their Japanese twitter or blog and ask there for a re-release?

Anonymous Thu Jun 25 23:10:17 2015 No.8429330

Serious question, I'm not sure where else to ask though- I'm fairly knew to lolita and have been building up my wardrobe and putting together coords (long time lurker on here), but i haven't actually worn any of my dresses out yet (I'm not in a comm). In March, I am going to Tokyo and I was wondering if it is appropriate to wear it while walking around areas like Harajuku and Shinjuku? I want to look and feel cute in photos but I don't want to look like some dumbass gaijin.

Anonymous Thu Jun 25 23:14:26 2015 No.8429339

>>8429306
I'll probably send in an order anyway too. I've emailed them before about rereleasing things and they said they would tell Yumi people liked them. I'm sure if enough people did it, word would get around to her. but I know they're swamped with happy packs and this release.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 25 23:15:57 2015 No.8429342 >>8429061 The absolute easiest thing to do is to ask about the life of the girl who's doing the gossiping. Ask her about her job, whatever, it'll redirect her for a little while. Gossips are always self-involved.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 25 23:17:42 2015 No.8429347 >>8429330 You're going to get looks regardless, lolita isn't really accepted there either. It's unlikely anyone will actually say something though. if they think you're a stupid gajin, they will think that no matter what you wear.

Anonymous Thu Jun 25 23:18:40 2015 No.8429348

>>8429330
Well, how are your coording skills? I'm not suggesting you self-post or anything, kek, but try posting some of your ideas to the coord help threads here and seeing if they pass muster that way. If your outfits are good you'll be fine in Tokyo probably, I know a lot of girls wear lolita when they visit Japan. Plus you have until March to get better!

Good luck, anon-chan

Anonymous Thu Jun 25 23:25:36 2015 No.8429361

I preordered Meta's Dark Night Guardian as they said it would arrive early to mid next month and then I'd have another seven days to pay. But it arrived early (yesterday) and I won't have the full amount for two weeks (1 week extra than allowed). I know it's my fault mostly, but should I tell Meta why I can't pay yet or just accept that I'll be blacklisted?

Anonymous Thu Jun 25 23:36:06 2015 No.8429375

Has anyone seen any nice square-necked blouses with shirred poofy sleeves (like Moitie often does) from taobao/other indie brands lately? I've been looking around and can't find anything available with both attributes.

>>8429306
They don't seem to have a twitter, I've hunted around to no avail a few times. There's the designer's ameblo but I don't think you can comment on it? Not sure. Email would probably be the best way but considering how slow they are already with orders/email...

Anonymous Thu Jun 25 23:51:19 2015 No.8429410
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>>8429306
I put in an order for the navyxwhite bustle jsk. Im hoping some people back out of their orders, wish me luck gulls.

I also had the OTKs on my order, if the jsk doesn't come back in stock will IW let me back out of the OTKs? Not sure how crazy they are about cancellations.

Anonymous Fri Jun 26 00:01:31 2015 No.8429426

>>8429410

The last few times I reserved a set, I was told I could cancel as I'd obviously ordered a whole set and the main piece wasn't available. That was a while ago, though (like, years).

I've mentioned this before, but as a cop-out you could always say you only want the socks if the dress is available. However, it does sometimes result in a bit of passive-aggressiveness in their replies, hopefully they don't also penalise you by moving you to the bottom of the waiting list if you wrote that.

I'm still pretty hopeful for this series if people are emailing them orders. I've seen IW release a second round for Strahov and Lotta Revival, so let's hope they do it for this series as well.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 26 00:05:44 2015 No.8429439 >>8429375 is this what you are talking about, anon? http://www.fanplusfriend.com/classic-lolita-square-collar-shirring-back-long-sleeves-embroidery-blouse-instant-shipping/

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 26 00:50:43 2015 No.8429513 >>8429361 I haven't been in that situation but based on other experiences with Meta I've had/have heard about they're pretty understanding so I'd email them about it and you should be fine. I've never heard of them blacklisting anyone.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 26 01:11:53 2015 No.8429543 >>8429426 I was very polite in the message saying if it wasn't too much trouble if the jsk wasn't available I didn't want the socks. And I've been a good past customer so hopefully they won't be too harsh.

Anonymous Fri Jun 26 01:43:12 2015 No.8429600

Dumb question but I was on a taobao reseller's website and they sold replicas of Dream of Lolita's dresses, but when I looked up Dream of Lolita itself the dresses were literally the same price as the replicas. Is DoL a replica maker? (I'm hella new when it comes to lolita and taobao brands, forgive me)

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 26 01:44:25 2015 No.8429602 >>8429600 Yes, Dream of Lolita does make replicas.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 26 02:34:41 2015 No.8429657 >>8429035 Does anyone know where she got her cardigan from? I can't remember her tumblr to ask.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 26 02:39:42 2015 No.8429663 File: 229 KB, 700x1005, image.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I'm looking for blouses that have sleeves that are straight but loose, if that makes sense? Sort of like pic related. Does anyone know of any brands that have something similar?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 26 03:01:54 2015 No.8429685 >>8429657 it's victorianme >>8429600 as other anon mentioned, DoL is itself making replicas of brand dresses a few 'popular' prints that it's made which i can remember off the top of my head are midsummer night's dream and milky planet

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 26 04:25:49 2015 No.8429738 >>8429663 I once bought two anna house blouses and they had the oldschool straight and loose sleeves. a bit too wide for my taste but you could try AH

Anonymous Fri Jun 26 05:58:53 2015 No.8429806

Theirs no community thread so.. is "Ladies of the Empire" the 'official' Köln community or is it a tiny friend group? I have joined the lolitas Germany but the only more direct group i can find is from animexx list but all their meet ups seem really small

Anonymous Fri Jun 26 06:12:31 2015 No.8429814

I'm trying to complete my Meta purchase for Dark Night Guardian, and every time I go to finalise the order and put in my credit card info, I get this message
>ご入力いただいたカード番号での決済受付ができませんでした。

ご注文手続きが完了していません。もう一度お支払い手続きを行ってください
>tl;Dr, credit card not accepted; please try again

I've never bought from Meta before, so I have no idea what's going on. I tried to put it in two more times before giving up.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 26 06:21:53 2015 No.8429823 >>8429814 Try calling your credit card company? Some banks block all foreign transactions as a precaution against stolen credit cards.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 26 10:16:21 2015 No.8430008 >>8427887 Even l-email on eBay have a couple of home wigs that look similar to Lockshops, but probably not as good.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 26 10:17:28 2015 No.8430009 >>8428500 This makes me want to cry.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 26 10:20:13 2015 No.8430010 >>8429814 Use paypal you twit. They won't accept a foreign card any other way.

Anonymous Fri Jun 26 10:21:40 2015 No.8430015

>>8429035
One foot ahead, holding bag. My problem is that the head angles and facial expressions most flattering to me make me look bitchy as fuck (I can't do more than a slight smile without looking bad). Usually I do a 3/4 angle and small smile, trying to remember to tilt my head to show my hair accessory best, but sometimes I just embrace the bitchface and go for the full "suck it, peasants" haughty look. It doesn't matter much either way because I don't post coordinate photos to tumblr or Lookbook.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 26 10:24:48 2015 No.8430019 >>8429375 Bunny House and The FLoral Notebook both have slightly similar designs, and you can request the sleeves as a custom.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 26 11:36:59 2015 No.8430126 >>8430010 >we accept all major credit cards k

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 26 11:38:42 2015 No.8430130 >>8429814 I had this issue placing an order with AP. I was trying to use my debit card and it wouldn't work. It would only recognize my credit card.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 26 11:40:47 2015 No.8430135 >>8430126 And trying to use it worked so well, oh wait.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 26 13:15:43 2015 No.8430277 >>8429806 yeah there is? >>8422149

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 26 13:20:24 2015 No.8430286 >>8427287 She posted it to CoF first, before being told where to go...

Anonymous Fri Jun 26 13:26:16 2015 No.8430299

Is there any blog post or a general list of how to coord? I mean, I have read things like like pick an accent color and ad it to your coord but I was wondering if anyone has something more prescriptive? Like blouse, socks, and purse the accent color while jsk and headbow the main color or something like that?

Also along the lines, any blogs/articles detailing the best types of tops for different types of jsk styles/cuts/straps?

I have been in this fashion for years and my cords still suck so I definitely think I need more advice / general tips.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 26 13:56:38 2015 No.8430347 >>8430135 You're being Real Salty over someone else choosing to not use PayPal.

Anonymous Fri Jun 26 14:34:47 2015 No.8430439

I'm making my prediction right now. There will be no more than three well executed rainbow themed coords in celebration of the legalization of gay marriage in the US. There will, however, be a shit ton of terrible ones and a particularly awful one from that Angel Buckley girl.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 26 14:38:58 2015 No.8430453 >>8430439 The real question is how flooded will our feeds/dashboards be with pictures of badly-dressed lesbian lolita couples in cliché poses

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 26 14:39:12 2015 No.8430455 File: 214 KB, 500x600, 01231036_54c1a5b8b374a.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] What's the fit on this like? I was thinking of buying it, but my bust is 92cm and I'm scared it won't fit.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 26 14:48:23 2015 No.8430483 File: 232 KB, 488x1000, otomekei.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Otome looks a lot like lolita. What makes this otome rather than lolita?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 26 14:50:10 2015 No.8430487 >>8430483 Besides the shoes.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 26 14:51:26 2015 No.8430489 >>8430347 It's more like the girl didn't think of the other most obvious option. I'm salty about that.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 26 15:35:19 2015 No.8430598 >>8430483 The clashing, bold patterns with a sense of whimsy or kitsch instead of refined elegance/cuteness

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 26 16:00:33 2015 No.8430670 File: 93 KB, 980x876, truelifehlcedition.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Guys...

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 26 16:02:21 2015 No.8430672 >>8430670 Ohhh HLC!

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 26 16:03:20 2015 No.8430677 File: 468 KB, 500x375, 1366115733368.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8430670 Nooooooo How many more until they learn

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 26 16:04:08 2015 No.8430683 >>8430670 Oh, for fucks sake.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 26 16:08:16 2015 No.8430695 >>8430670 Sorry for the huge screenshot btw. For some reason my tablet blows things up when I edit pics.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 26 16:18:54 2015 No.8430718 >>8430670 >MTV >"Understanding" History is the greatest teacher while humanity is the worst student

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 26 16:23:43 2015 No.8430732 >>8430670 Can someone talk her out of it? Ugh MTV is literally the worst TV station to talk about Lolita.

Anonymous Fri Jun 26 16:48:01 2015 No.8430782

>>8430483
The silhouette is more structural and toned down (a-lign, small to no petti), rather than decadent, intricate and frilly. The cuts are very very simple and focus more on patterns and textures. The patterns are bold and often clash, and uses a strange mix of colours that complement each other rather than being matchy matchy and super feminine. The style isn't as prescriptive as lolita.

Anonymous Fri Jun 26 16:53:50 2015 No.8430792
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Is 1,600 yen including shipping a fair price for this Innocent World bag in used condition? It has a light scrape/mark on the bottom and several small dents into the front above the magnet, as well as general feel of a used bag.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 26 17:03:24 2015 No.8430815 >>8430792 $13? It's a great price.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 26 17:18:45 2015 No.8430845 >>8430815 Thanks! I've never bought a lolita bag/purse before and I'm just getting back into it after several years of absence, so I'm a bit out of touch with current trends and prices.

Anonymous Fri Jun 26 17:21:54 2015 No.8430854

>>8430670
They ALWAYS say that they'll be understanding of the fashion. As someone in SoCal lolita comms, we get curious producers all the fucking time and they always say the same shit and it never turns out to be anything more than an exploiting, sensational style piece of shit. Tell that retard that she's not going to be uguu famous lolita where all the famous brands will recognize her and ask her to be a model.

Anonymous Fri Jun 26 17:56:40 2015 No.8430934

>>8430670
These are the sort of topics they feature. They won't be kind to Lolitas. I found this in 30 seconds. Why didn't she look up the background of the show?
It's going to be like Milky Fawn in that tabloid and My Strange Addiction. Jeez...

http://tvradio.blog.austin360.com/2015/06/23/mtvs-true-life-needs-austinites/

Anonymous Fri Jun 26 18:04:44 2015 No.8430950

>>8430934
An FB friend of mine got an email from MTV, while they are interested in the fashion they wanted to frame it in an "do you look like an anime????" slant. That episode is gonna try to make lolitas look like some cartoon-costumed freaks that want to look like uugu animus.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 26 18:06:38 2015 No.8430953 I'm waiting to hear news on meta's upcoming wa print. Do they limit the amount of reservations/will I need to be online the second the reservation period opens up?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 26 18:14:23 2015 No.8430969 File: 42 KB, 679x485, whyy.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Im trying to order off AB, but whenever I get to the method of payment page there's nothing there to press?

Anonymous Fri Jun 26 18:14:35 2015 No.8430970

>>8430854
Well that "Weird Threads" thing filmed here in SoCal was actually really good. Wouldn't mind something similar to go to mainstream TV...

But I agree, majority times these producers just turn it into something nasty. Especially if said producers are from MTV.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 26 18:16:24 2015 No.8430975 >>8430969 Errrr they're closed for orders anon. There should be a graphic that says so right on the first page.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 26 18:18:16 2015 No.8430980 >>8430975 ah fuck, totally missed it.

Anonymous Fri Jun 26 20:34:42 2015 No.8431248
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What is the quality like of AATP?

Because holy shit, I just got my dream dress in the mail
I bought it second hand, and besides the already worn out condition, the construction is HORRIBLE.
I really did not expect that all from them.

I want to say more, but this is seriously making me upset.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 26 20:39:00 2015 No.8431259 >>8431248 What year was it made? A lot of their (and Baby's) older pieces have some pretty wonky construction.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 26 20:40:02 2015 No.8431261 >>8431248 What's the dress name? I have tons of AatP and the construction quality is fine to great.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 26 20:45:00 2015 No.8431269 >>8431259 >>8431261 It's Porz Kerchief so that is 2012

Anonymous Fri Jun 26 20:45:34 2015 No.8431271

>>8430299
My go-to for coording is to match your blouse and legwear in colour (or at least the main colour of your legwear), then match headwear and shoes to the main piece. For choosing blouse/legwear colour, go with a neutral or an accent colour from the dress. That's the base, but then depending on the dress and how you like to accessorise you could maybe bring in an extra colour in accessories or if you have a bolero on as well as a blouse etc. It's pretty much a no-fail system and though it can be basic you can then build on it.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 26 20:46:38 2015 No.8431273 >>8431248 I have a 2013 Baby JSK which is meh, construction-wise. It's not awful, but it's not as good as I was expecting from glorious burando.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 26 20:52:36 2015 No.8431284 >>8431271 I screencapped this. Glad I read your post before asking. So thanks, may the burando angels sprinkle your dreams with soft lace and fluffy pettis.

Anonymous Fri Jun 26 20:56:14 2015 No.8431296

>>8431273
>>8431273
I do have a baby jsk from 2012 as well and I would agree it certainly was not what I was expecting from brand, but it still is pretty good, at least the tailoring is well done.

This dress is really notches down compared to what I do have. The skirt gather stitching is really wonky, and visible in a few part on the outside. The inside is just a mess, it really looks like babys first attempt at a gathered skirt.
The zipper installation is terrible as well. unfinished seams under the collar, which would be okay, but they do have surging in other areas, sooo why not there....
sorry starting to rant.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 26 20:56:20 2015 No.8431297 >>8431273 I think it depends on the piece because my 2013 Baby JSK is great quality!

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 26 20:56:52 2015 No.8431298 >>8431269 How big of a letdown is it and what's wrong with it? Porz in navy is my number 2 dream dress but if the quality's shit I'm thinking about dropping it off my list.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 26 20:57:20 2015 No.8431300 >>8430489 You're just a cunt, period.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 26 20:58:21 2015 No.8431302 >>8431271 That is actually really helpful. I am at a loss at times when trying to coordinate. Thanks anon

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 26 20:59:31 2015 No.8431306 >>8431300 If being a bit rude about telling someone they have other options makes me a cunt on cgl, than you guys really did go soft.

Anonymous Fri Jun 26 21:01:33 2015 No.8431312

>>8431298
See part of >>8431296
I can take pictures too.

But maybe ask others who own Porz.
This could also be part of how worn this dress is.
Porz was my dress for years. Just kinda ugh.

I think I am more upset in how much effort I am going to need to do to clean this bad boy up

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 26 21:12:31 2015 No.8431341 >>8431248 post pics I want to know what it loks like

Anonymous Fri Jun 26 21:17:46 2015 No.8431353

>>8431298
>>8431312
I have the ivory. It's not the worst in terms of wonky construction, but they made some weird choices. I'd have to go grab it to give you a full rundown of weirdness, but from memory...

Bodice isn't fully lined, only faced, and straps are those weird "not quite on the shoulder" ones that AatP likes to do (see: Grimoire of the Moonlight Forest JSK I, Rose Ornament Long JSK, Vampire Requiem Long JSK) such that it looks odd with a blouse on.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 26 21:18:38 2015 No.8431355 >>8431271 Thank you for this! How would I do this with three colors without it looking unbalanced?

Anonymous Fri Jun 26 21:41:25 2015 No.8431394
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>>8431355
Mostly by working in patterns. So if you have a printed dress, pair them with OTKs that have a two-colour pattern where the base colour (say, white if it's a sweet outfit) matches your blouse and the pattern is an accent colour that suits the dress.

So for pic related, you choose to primarily have a white blouse and socks with pink shoes and a headbow to match. Then, to work in the third colour, say sax to match the pink you could pick white socks with a sax pattern (something neutral like bows or dots or ribbons would be easy) and then work that accent in with your other accessories, perhaps a smaller bow hairclip to go with the pink headbow and sax wristcuffs or bracelet. A white bag would be good, but a sax one might really pop.

Alternatively, you could maybe choose the brown from the print for your blouse and socks, perhaps using a bolero instead of a blouse to cover more of the pink and then brown boots instead of brown legwear. Then if you have the pink headbow again to match the dresses main colour you can still work in an accent in the smaller accessory, perhaps yellow this time in the form of tights (since you won't see much of them) and again a smaller hair accessory. A brown bag would match easily, as would a pink one, but yellow would be fun.

That's a bit rambly, I know, but I hope it made some sense.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 26 21:50:04 2015 No.8431410 >>8430299 I always rewatch this video if I'm stuck on a coordinating. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FsMNZk67AVo I wish she'd go back to making videos, she's one of my favorite lolitas.

Anonymous Fri Jun 26 21:50:04 2015 No.8431411

>>8431248
That's how I felt about stained glass angel when I got it in the mail. I have the BTSSB version.

The dress is not lined at all, the fabric is kinda thin and wrinkles very easily, and overall it was just not what I expected.
I only had one other baby dress to compare to (2012 dessert OP) so I was really bummed out by the quality.
I almost thought I'd gotten a replica, but there aren't any to my knowledge, and it has the correct tag.

At least the print is pretty...

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 26 21:51:37 2015 No.8431417 >>8431394 This makes perfect sense. I appreciate you taking the time to explain this in such detail.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 26 22:33:24 2015 No.8431495 Who's ready for Fantasic Carnival's release? And what advice can you gulls give for a speedy checkout? I kept getting sent back to my cart for Misty Sky's release.

Anonymous Fri Jun 26 22:41:23 2015 No.8431508
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>>8431355
When I work with more than two colors (I've done up to four before) I try to work the colors into the top middle and bottom of the coordinate. I try to pull out accent colors that appear within the dress and then place them throughout.

Like >>8431394 said, socks with colors and patterns are helpful in bringing accent colors down to the bottom portion of the coord. But if you're limited on socks you can try some kind of attachment to your shoes to draw that color down. I've made attachments on short boots before, bows with florals to attach to shoe straps, shoe clips can work too. It helps to be creative.

It helps to think of your coordinate in 3rds: top, middle and bottom. And then make sure that each color you use is present in each. I usually pick one color to be my dominant accent color and the others play into it.

And again, sometimes you are limited by what you can get your hands on. If it doesn't work out, you can try it again when you find something that works better.

Also important to note: If you're using pattern socks, make sure those patterns and motifs play into your main piece and appear within them. Those floral socks might have the right color, but the theme is going to clash with something like, say Sugary carnival. This is where hunting for items for your coord can get tricky! Sometimes it comes straight down to customization and being creative.

Pic related: Some examples of some recent coords where I used more than two colors. They could be better, but I hope this illustrates the concept well enough.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 26 22:47:36 2015 No.8431518 >>8431248 I have to agree. The inside of AatP/Baby dresses is usually pretty ugly. The only really well constructed pieces I have by Baby are older (pre-2008).

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 26 23:10:03 2015 No.8431579 >>8430980 yeah they opened on the 20th but you have to be diligent when they open for orders because they close very quickly - I think they stopped taking orders on the 23rd.

Anonymous Fri Jun 26 23:34:00 2015 No.8431633

>>8431248
I've seen a ton of Baby/Aatp items, both old and new (helps living near a store) and the construction and quality varies a lot. Most of the cotton dresses tend to not have lining in the bodice and are shirred with elastic sewn on, not inside channels. With thicker material it doesn't really matter because it still looks good worn, but the thinner summer dresses can end up looking bad because the fabric is too lightweight, wrinkles easily, and can show the seams and stuff underneath. Anything with boning isn't great either because they use cheap, bendy plastic boning. Imo their best stuff is non-print velveteen, wool blends, jaquard, or their fancy OTT dresses (although those aren't really my taste).

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 26 23:36:59 2015 No.8431641 >>8431411 This is kind of disappointing to hear. I really wanted to invest in a Baby dress (Merry Making in the Ghost Town specifically) but I had no idea their dresses were low quality.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 26 23:38:46 2015 No.8431647 ^ **Baby/AATP

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 26 23:40:29 2015 No.8431649 >>8431641 Yeah, their blouses and cardigans are nice, but I generally prefer AP over Baby for main pieces. Heck, even indie brands like Lief's items have better construction from my experience.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 26 23:41:13 2015 No.8431653 >>8430934 Milky fawn in that tabloid? I totally missed that! Anyone has the source of it?

sweetexpedition@hotmail.com Fri Jun 26 23:44:16 2015 No.8431662

>>8431411
if you don't like it, please sell it to me, email up top if you're interested in seeing my offer

>>8431248
i also have a few aatp and btssb pieces, their cotton things seem to be especially poor in quality. chiffon is usually better, but i can't resist their prints so no matter how crap their quality is, i still end up buying stuff

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 26 23:49:15 2015 No.8431674 >>8431341 I will snap some pics soon. Just washed it, gotta let it dry

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 26 23:53:27 2015 No.8431687 >>8431653 http://www.thatslife.com.au/Article/Real-Life/Real-Life-Stories/Meet-Australias-living-dolls

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 26 23:55:58 2015 No.8431694 >>8431508 i love your coords so much

Anonymous Fri Jun 26 23:56:02 2015 No.8431695

>>8431662
Sorry anon, it's my holy grail dress so I'm going to be keeping it for a while, regardless of the flaws. Although if I somehow change my mind, I'll post it on the DD thread first before I put it up anywhere.
Also aren't you looking for the black? I have the white version.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 26 23:57:27 2015 No.8431699 has anyone received a shipment notification for twinkle journey yet? I know on their twitter they said there was a delay in shipping due to the heavy orders but I was jw

Anonymous Sat Jun 27 00:00:46 2015 No.8431702

>>8431695
so sorry, my desperate mind somehow made up the words 'in black' in your comment!
i'm only looking for black at the moment, but yeah i think others would appreciate if you did post in the DD thread first if you change your mind about keeping it

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 27 01:42:04 2015 No.8431865 Does anyone know if MMM allows Tenso orpaypal/non-Japanese card?

Anonymous Sat Jun 27 01:42:20 2015 No.8431866
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>>8431341
Pics. Ignore the pilling, that is another issue of itself.
The thing that gets me really rolling is that long ass zipper.
The dress definitely destroyed my illusion, but I still have a thing for it. Just love that folk feel.
Just imo its hard for me to justify the value now.

>>8431353
It would really have made more sense to line the bodice all the way, to at least cover the skirt gathering.

>>8431411
Ha ha I almost thought that about mine, but I don't think there are PK replicas. I am a little concerned there is no care tag...
I have not looked in my other baby dress, but I thought usually all dresses have them.

>>8431633
Yeah the other Baby dress I have is a cotton one, and at least the tailoring is nice and I am actually really happy with it. That one at least I feel the value is justified.
It really seems this material on PK is not holding up much, and I know it has been worn alot, but dang there is a ton of pilling

>>8431662
ha ha, I really love their prints as well. I have a few more on my wish list, I will still prob try to get, but I think I will be more cautious with the condition.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 27 01:49:56 2015 No.8431873 >>8431866 Yikes, that is pretty shoddy.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 27 01:52:37 2015 No.8431876 >>8431866 The inside looks like my first sewing project, I can't believe this is brand.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 27 02:11:31 2015 No.8431903 >>8431876 I was extremely surprised... shit I can do a better job than this. It is really tempting to just redo it...

Anonymous Sat Jun 27 02:12:39 2015 No.8431905

>>8431865
Just order through CD Japan. They allowed From Japan when I tried due to items being sold out on CDJ, so Tenso should be alright. As they don't ship overseas they don't accept foreign cards out PayPal so you'll have to use some type of SS if you insist on.going through the JP site.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 27 04:41:30 2015 No.8432067 >>8431865 I've bought Royal Gate directly and sent it to tenso before.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 27 04:53:12 2015 No.8432073 >>8431866 Yikes. I don't think the overlocking and stiching on mine is quite that bad. Some of the lace arrived rumpled, but a bit of steam smoothed it down.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 27 05:01:32 2015 No.8432077 >>8431866 oh wow, that's really messy and worse than all of the aatp / baby pieces that i own my gripe isn't that the construction of my pieces are messy, the fabric just feels subpar and little things like waist ties should still be lined

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 27 05:01:35 2015 No.8432078 >>8431866 Geez, I saw the pic before reading through the thread and thought the handmade thread had leaked. ... You're right though, that print is gorgeous.

Anonymous Sat Jun 27 05:22:55 2015 No.8432090

>>8431866

I have to say, anon, that zipper looks mighty dodgy to me. I wonder if your seller modded it or replaced a broken zipper or something. I'm not sure about the length, but the fraying threads and totally unfinished lining right below the zipper is unusual. On my dresses wih zippers both sides of the lining are serged finished before coming together and being serged together.)

The skirt gathering doesn't look all that unusual, even if the gathering looks slightly wonky. I wonder if some part of this messiness might be attributed to the owner wearing it a lot or not caring for it properly, especially if the fabric has pilled.

The care tag should be attached to one of the seams in the skirt lining, if that helps.

>>8432077

This annoys me too, on a couple of dresses that need them, and that I want to wear with black tops I make my own lining and sew them in, but for the price we pay and the way Baby keeps hiking their prices up I feel like I shouldn't have to do this. On the upside, I've considered that if I do need some small extra sliver of fabric for modifications, I could probably remove the facing, line the dress with a matching fabric, and use the facing fabric.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 27 06:08:07 2015 No.8432126 >>8429663 I have one from the floral notebook that has really poofy sleeves. It's chiffon and nice quality.

Anonymous Sat Jun 27 06:11:32 2015 No.8432127

>>8432077
I have the Arietta JSK and the waist ties are the saddest, droopiest pieces of shit ever. The fabric that they used is pretty enough, but it's so thin it feels like I'm wearing nothing but lining and I'm constantly terrified the boning's going to rip the bodice a new one if I so much as look at it wrong.

Anonymous Sat Jun 27 06:35:29 2015 No.8432142

>>8432090
that's a good tip for people who may need alterations on their dresses, never thought about that before

you sound like you've got some sewing experience (i have almost none), if you take a dress apart and put it back together, is it easy to mess up the silhouette?

>>8432127
this so much. even when i get my mom to tie my waist ties, they still look like garbage when they're unlined. it's also super hard to get all the printed sides to face out

>sage for whining

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 27 06:51:14 2015 No.8432157 How do Mufish tights fit? I'm 5'6", 155 and I want to buy some cute patterned tights. Also curious for recommendations, thank you!

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 27 06:56:28 2015 No.8432166 >>8432157 their original prints will be fine, but grimoire verum replicas most likely won't fit very well i recommend their chocolate tights, the chess OTKs and the dripping spoon/fork OTKs

Anonymous Sat Jun 27 06:57:08 2015 No.8432168

>>8431866
Hory shet.
I've been wanting to make my own items to sell, and worried that the quality would be too low.
I am now much more confident in myself.

HOW COULD ANYONE SELL SOMETHING THIS SHITTY. UNFINISHED SEAMS, GATHERING THREADS STICKING OUT, BLEARGH.
And why not just cut off the fucking zipper?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 27 07:01:07 2015 No.8432171 >>8432166 >chocolate tights Are those worth it? I am tempted to get them but they seem a bit expensive..

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 27 07:03:27 2015 No.8432172 >>8432157 Thank you very much!

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 27 07:22:39 2015 No.8432187 Stupid question but whenever I try to buy from AP's site, it keeps on giving me "cash on delivery" as the only option which isn't right. I'm using my tenso address and everything..

Anonymous Sat Jun 27 07:31:04 2015 No.8432196

>>8431866
I own a few ancient BTSSB pieces (as in pre-2004 ancient) and the construction is amazing (you would never know how old the pieces were, they've held up amazingly). I don't own any few pieces by them but I would have thought it was comparable... Apparently not. I wonder what happened?

Anonymous Sat Jun 27 07:48:34 2015 No.8432213

>>8432168
because that someone is aatp

>>8432171
they're a nice and cheap alternative for brand chocolate tights, and the quality is proportionate to the price
at ~$11usd a pop, they're very cheap, i don't know what you're comparing them to that makes you think they're expensive

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 27 08:12:20 2015 No.8432235 >>8432213 Other mu fish tights.

Anonymous Sat Jun 27 10:20:33 2015 No.8432319

>>8432187

You can only buy the items where the "add to cart" buttons are pink.

The white buttons are "special order" where the items are not in stock, the staff have to call other shops to ask if they have it. If you use that button you will only get cash on delivery as the only payment option. If you go through with that order, AP will cancel your order when they see a Tenso address.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 27 10:26:16 2015 No.8432323 >>8427887 Bodyline actually has a hime wig that's really cute. I wear mine all the time. Quality better than expected from bodyline

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 27 10:30:37 2015 No.8432327 File: 45 KB, 363x364, sobs.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] kinda unrelated /cgl/ but, how long does it takes for Syrup to ship their products? It's been 2 weeks already

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 27 10:46:11 2015 No.8432355 secrets are fucking late this morning

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 27 10:57:16 2015 No.8432362 >>8432355 It's probably going to take a while to because of the 40,000 john hate secrets

Anonymous Sat Jun 27 11:17:46 2015 No.8432383

>>8432187
I had this issue with my old account. I placed an order and maybe they flagged the account because they thought it wasn't being sent to Tenso. I sent an email to AP saying it was my Tenso address and they never responded. I ended up creating a new account with the same exact info as my last one, and haven't had any issues ever since.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 27 11:18:11 2015 No.8432384 >>8432355 Hopefully they won't come Sunday morning like they did last time

Anonymous Sat Jun 27 11:18:23 2015 No.8432385

>>8432142
>take a dress apart and put it back together

Heh. Don't do that. Definitely avoid it whenever you can, not just btssb/aatp, but also AP and Meta and err, every other brand. Just marking the seams and then resewing it back together is really easy, it's the serging and the sheer amount of work cutting it open carefully that will be troublesome.

A lot of commercial clothes are sewn at the seams first, and then have their raw edges serged together. You can see an example in the collage above (or check your own clothes), the skirt, skirt lining and the bodice are all serged together in one go, the skirt is not serged seperately from the bodice. You can also see how under the zipper, the two seam allowances are brought together and then serged as one single raw edge, not seperately.

This means that when you want to cut them open, you're going to have to cut through every serging on every raw edge of every seam. It's a lot of work, plus don't underestimate the places like where one seam might be connected to other things, (like where the bodice seams meet the skirt). And *then*, after you're done cutting apart everything and sewing it back together (which is actually the easy part), you're now left with all those raw edges that you will have to serge, zigzag stitch with a stabilizer (zigzag tends to distort the fabric if you use it at the edge of the fabric), or God help you if you decide you want to blanket stitch them by hand to minimise loss of fabric.

If you're interested in how to do the bodice lining, I'll outline how I do it (someone else might have a different method):

Anonymous Sat Jun 27 11:20:39 2015 No.8432386

>>8432385

When I make my bodice lining, what I do is place the dress on a flat surface, pick a panel, and then try to lay the dress so that that panel is as flat as possible. I put a piece of paper over it and trace out the shape. Repeat with the other panels, skip the shirred panels. Then I make up the bodice lining with this traced pattern; I only sew the seams together, then pin it to the dress (turn it inside out and pin the lining to the bodice with sewing pins) to check the fit. All my traced patterns work so far, if it doesn't fit you'll have to start tracing again, make sure the panel you're tracing is laid out as flat as you can make it. I do have to note that I've never worked with problematic bodices with gathers or funky designs though.

After checking the lining fits, the next step is to iron all the raw edges inwards and press the seams (the raw edges do not need finishing since I sew the lining completely into the dress). Then pin it back to the dress, and sew it to dress with whipstitch. The lining goes between the facing and the bodice, and I usually whipstitch the facing to the lining as well.

For the shirred panels, I normally skip it as the fabric gathers makes the fabric opaque enough for a dark blouse not to show much, I just whipstitch the lining straight down alongside the shirred panels. If you want to, then the shape for a half shirred dress is a trapezoid and for a quarter shirred dress is a rectangle. It's a matter of finding the right measurements, then cutting out the fabric, pressing the raw edges in, then whipstitching it to the dress while making sure you're not permanently sewing the gathers in place. After that, you can stretch the shirred panel and run a couple of sewing machine lines to get the lining to "stick" to the shirred panel.

Sorry, this is a block of text. Maybe the next time I line a dress I'll make a tutorial and post the link here? I won't have the time until late next month though.

Anonymous Sat Jun 27 12:06:48 2015 No.8432453
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>>8431866
Different PK owner here with pics.
I agree some of the serging is a little wonky and wasn't sure why they left raw edges even if it was covered by facing. But wow-- I'm guessing their quality check is just inconsistent? I didn't see any stitches at the gather under the waistband. I'm also assuming my zipper was shorter because the previous owner clipped it. I got it nwt a few months after its release from egl sales.

My main complaints are like everyone else has been saying. The fabric pills like a mofo, the zipper tends to get stuck around the "waist band", and of course the straps. Those goddamn straps. I think about parting with it sometimes.. but I love the design too much.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 27 12:11:42 2015 No.8432461 >>8432355 >>8432362 >>8432384 Secrets are up, but rather disappointing.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 27 13:30:47 2015 No.8432560 >>8431866 >>8432453 Starting to think original anon's dress has been (poorly) altered in some way... Anon, was your dress bought from the original owner or did they also get it secondhand?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 27 13:34:32 2015 No.8432566 Where will excentrique lp be on their website? Sale section or reserve?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 27 13:53:28 2015 No.8432593 >>8432560 Previous owner bought it straight from baby

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 27 13:53:58 2015 No.8432596 >>8432566 Excentrique LP's are instore only besides that their LP's are pretty shitty (unless you are a fan of their Mumuu-dresses and oversizes shirts, because that's the stuff that ends up in the LP's)

Anonymous Sat Jun 27 15:14:55 2015 No.8432694

>>8431866
I'm curious. How much did you pay and did you buy it with an ss or did you buy it from an individual? If you bought it on the sales comm or something and it wasn't described as being in that condition, I would honestly try to get my money back. I know it's hard and it's your dream dress anon, but a horrible quality dress is going to look horrible even if the print is pretty. It's not worth the money to look like you're wearing bad handmade.

Almost my entire closet is baby and everything I own has been great quality. I only own one thin cotton dress by baby, and it's lined. Everything else is made out of incredibly thick fabric or lined as well. I'm a seamstress as well in my day job, and can tell you the construction is wonderful.

I'm guessing they we're testing out a different factory when they made this piece? Or you unfortunately had bad luck and got one that has been altered (which is honestly what it looks like to me) The stitching in the second and third top row pictures on the gathers makes it obvious whoever was sewing this garment was vastly inexperienced with clothing construction.

Anonymous Sat Jun 27 15:17:34 2015 No.8432697

How much of a bloodbath do you think Dreamy Planetarium is going to be? I want that pink OP that was featured in KERA. Is it going to be notably more popular because of that?

Also, wasn't the release date supposed to be in June? I wonder if AP pushed back the release date to make more.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 27 15:51:26 2015 No.8432767 Could I get some recommendations on star/pearl circlet/headresses? Thank you

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 27 16:16:35 2015 No.8432825 File: 10 KB, 200x200, petit_20rainbow_20lariat_2004_200sq.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8432767 You mean like a lariat like this? Reinhart Fuchs has a sea/shells themed one.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 27 16:28:49 2015 No.8432844 >>8432767 CelestialCastle on Etsy does nice ones.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 27 17:08:12 2015 No.8432912 >>8432844 Thank you!! Those are perfect..

Anonymous Sat Jun 27 17:08:18 2015 No.8432913

>>8432697
If it's any indication, Misty Sky and a lot of the other popular releases this year weren't as bad as I thought they would be. I've been able to get the color I wanted and the dresses sold out at least 10 minutes later. If you have issues with buying items on release day online, try to see if an SS has any slots available for Dreamy Planeterium.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 27 17:17:51 2015 No.8432934 >>8432913 I'm assuming chibitenshi will be full. Is there anyone else you'd recommend?

Anonymous Sat Jun 27 17:25:21 2015 No.8432946

>>8432934
Tokyo Pirates is closed until August and I'm not sure of other services. Chibi Tenshi was able to get me a Dolly Cat OP and I emailed her 2 weeks before the release, so it might be worth a shot! I plan to get Dreamy Planetarium on release day and you can only buy one dress at a time online. Otherwise I wish I could help you out more.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 27 17:49:41 2015 No.8432985 >>8431355 when i use three colors i make sure they're present in the main dress, such that the main color of the coord is the main color of the dress, and then match blouse to shoes and legwear to purse, and bring all three colors into headwear

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 27 18:26:56 2015 No.8433035 File: 374 KB, 600x899, TB2wS1qcXXXXXX.XXXXXXXXXXXX_!!180586929.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Don't know if this belongs in taobao thread or not, but did anyone buy Forest Sambar's starry night dress (OP or JSK)?

Anonymous Sat Jun 27 18:31:53 2015 No.8433051

>>8431248
AATP and BABY have a horrible habit of NEVER LINING WHAT NEEDS TO BE LINED. PLEASE LINE YOUR STUFF.
Never buy anything with boning from them. It will always tear through the fabric and destroy whatever you're wearing. If you plan on wearing the dress more than three times, go and take it apart ASAP and remove the boning and line the dress.

This actually reminds me of some idiot who said that not lining a dress meant that it was higher quality when arguing that Btssb was best brand.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 27 19:32:13 2015 No.8433178 >>8432319 Ahh okay, yeah one of the items is a that special order. Should I ask a SS if they can contact a store or something?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 27 20:06:04 2015 No.8433250 >>8433178 Yes, since the grayed out items required COD payment which you can't use with Tenso.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 27 20:13:05 2015 No.8433257 >>8432946 Reading this reminds me that two shopping services aren't enough. Tokyo Pirates and Chibi Tenshi are great, no doubt, but getting a spot for are a popular realse is insane...

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 27 20:17:20 2015 No.8433266 >>8433257 I agree, and I'm not sure what others are out there. It sounds like it'd be time consuming so whoever else steps up to being an SS, that'd be a full-time job in itself.

Anonymous Sat Jun 27 20:21:18 2015 No.8433274

>>8433051
>not lining a dress meant that it was higher quality
Why any one would think this is a mystery. I admit that I'm super fucking lazy when I line my own garments, not finishing seams and having messy stitching/not cutting threads cause in the end it'll all be hidden but lining adds so much to a garment and I'm 99% that brans don't use lining something as an excuse to slack off like I do.

Anonymous Sat Jun 27 20:36:55 2015 No.8433301

>>8431248
>>8431633
I'm kind of nervous. I saw that they had re-released their pocket jsk, but I'm reluctant to get it now. I feel kind of bad because I want to support Baby, especially since they're coming to Anime Midwest, but compared to AP and Meta, I never really liked the construction of their garments (I always seem to sell off the items after trying on). I'm worried that the bust section of the bodice of that jsk is going to sit up pretty high because I used to own scallop ribbon jsk that did just that.

Anonymous Sat Jun 27 21:58:27 2015 No.8433429

>>8432560
>>8432694
I got my dress secondhand from an individual, which they did tell me there was a previous owner.
I am really starting to suspect it has been altered >>8432090
As this anon mentioned the zipper is really shoddy and I am thinking it is highly possible that is was replaced.
I do also have a few other baby pieces and they are lovely, the construction is great.

I am talking with the one I bought from. I never did ask that many questions so partly my bad.
But she had good feeback and was upfront about the pilling, otherwise said it was in great condition.
So guess I will see.
Just going to put in alot of work to get this looking spiffy.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 27 22:03:27 2015 No.8433439 >>8433429 I forgot to mention the care tag is missing. So that is a pretty big red flag...

Anonymous Sat Jun 27 22:07:08 2015 No.8433444
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What does everyone think of Lady Sloth's new dress for $160 ($180 for 110cm+ fatties)?

I like it but I don't really see it as lolita nor really a dress that's worth more than $100.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 27 22:12:23 2015 No.8433451 >>8433301 Pocket embroidery isn't too bad. I owned the navy version when they released it in S/M/L sizes, kinda wishing they'd done the same thing again since it's nice not to have to tighten the corset lacing as much as possible.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 27 22:24:47 2015 No.8433467 File: 151 KB, 927x583, hahawhat.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Really? I know this is a somewhat popular print...

Anonymous Sat Jun 27 22:24:59 2015 No.8433468
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I follow Lor's tumblr but don't really look much into her videos, all post are usually normal but some things that stood out to me

>reblogging her camwhore friend complete with CB link (this might be deleted)
and as of late
>"IM NOT JUST A LOLITA IM JUST REGULAR LOR"
>"see look at me IM NOT ALWAYS MODEST"

its like she's going through a mid life crisis for lolitas jfc

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 27 22:31:23 2015 No.8433480 >>8433468 >crackwhore fashion This fashion fad is the absolute worst. It needs to die. Streetwalkers have better taste.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 27 23:16:32 2015 No.8433554 >>8433467 Its the first red colorway to be listed on lacemarket , so its kind of rare

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 27 23:27:08 2015 No.8433583 >>8433468 Lol i just saw that post on my dash, meh job at blowing it way out of proportion your vendetta is cringy

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 27 23:37:42 2015 No.8433601 >>8433444 It's not lolita but tbh if I was pricing this thing it would end up around the $250 mark.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 27 23:48:20 2015 No.8433623 >>8433583 I have no vendetta. I actually think she'd be cool to talk to, but this post feels like a lead up from >I don't want to be lolita lor i want to be regular lor It just feels a bit silly and try-hard to me. now Hoot, that girl can fuck off.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 28 00:21:03 2015 No.8433676 File: 277 KB, 700x465, original.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Sorry if this is the wrong place to post this. Are these considered ita? I'm doing a coord with Milky-chan.

Anonymous Sun Jun 28 00:28:06 2015 No.8433684

>>8433676
Opinion is divided pretty evenly on this sort of thing. I'd wear it to a con or more casual thing but not to anything dressy or the least bit formal. You'll get opinions that it's both ok and terribly ita though. So it's a personal and situational judgement call.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 28 00:31:46 2015 No.8433698 >>8433468 Lor always finds new ways to make herself look awful, as if her face wasn't enough...

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 28 00:35:37 2015 No.8433706 >>8433468 So she wants to show other sides to her fashion sense on her own tumblr. How weird! much crisis! Really...really? Just leave her be, jeez.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 28 00:37:34 2015 No.8433711 >>8433706 Defending someone using shibe text ever. Kill yourself.jpg

Anonymous Sun Jun 28 00:42:29 2015 No.8433716

>>8433711
It was a shit stirring post singling out Lor off her own personal tumblr for doing basically what we encourage each other to do in exploring our fashion sense, it deserved a shitty reply. It's not like she's pushing anything out into a group, the poster is digging for drama. Just no.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 28 00:44:48 2015 No.8433722 >>8433444 Looks like something I could buy from ASOS. Not impressed.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 28 00:51:12 2015 No.8433728 >>8433601 Seriously. People are way too used to sweatshop prices.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 28 00:54:26 2015 No.8433732 >>8433623 Fucking vendetta this fashion isn't even related to Lolita why is it even here? She can't wear something aside from Lolita? Get that sand out of your vag jeez..baiting so hard lol

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 28 01:21:00 2015 No.8433780 >>8433467 Mfw no proof photos and $1000

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 28 02:00:23 2015 No.8433824 >>8433468 So she decided to show a different style. Who cares and why is this worth discussing on a lolita board?

Anonymous Sun Jun 28 02:19:11 2015 No.8433851

>>8433467
>>8433554
$1000 is still fucking ridiculous, though. I'm the first person to say "lol bitter poorfag" whenever someone accuses a seller of over pricing an item, but this is straight up cray. "Kind of rare" doesn't mean it's automatically worth the Iron Gate money.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 28 02:21:51 2015 No.8433854 >>8433851 iron gate isn't even $1000 now anyway also, the set is up for around $300 on Y!J at the moment >http://page7.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/g148251124

Anonymous Sun Jun 28 02:22:11 2015 No.8433855
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>>8433728
>>8433601

I think it's not so much whether this dress was worth $230 of labour and materials, but it's moreso that the design is kind of underwhelming. Like other anon says, it looks like a dress from Asos rather than a lolita brand.

Pic related retailed at $230 and has a burando label by the way, so I do think $250 is definitely overpricing.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 28 02:23:34 2015 No.8433860 >>8433854 Yeah I'm from the dream dress thread, hoping I'll win. I've been looking for this set forever. Wish me luck gulls!

Anonymous Sun Jun 28 02:31:29 2015 No.8433870

>>8432090
I used to own the white PK and my zipper looked pretty similar to be honest. It was such a bitch to zip. I loved the print but the crappy construction was one of a few reasons I sold it.
I've since given up on most baby/aatp pieces because they always disappoint me with the bad stitching, loose strings, weird construction choices like lining, zippers, and boning. AP and IW do so much better.

Anonymous Sun Jun 28 02:35:35 2015 No.8433882

>>8433855
Pic related is mass produced and based on average retail pricing would have cost approximately $65 to make in total. This includes all labour and materials. There is no way that a single person could justify such a low price for a custom made garment. Batch size is smaller, meaning no saving on cutting costs, no buying bulk fabric, etc.

Brand is surprisingly cheap. You are clearly used to throwaway fashion, but you will find that a "good" fashion label will be selling a fitted dress for $600+.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 28 02:37:57 2015 No.8433884 >>8433854 Depending on what version. Skirt and JSK you can realistically find for under $1000, especially the black/navy, but the OP has been going over $2000 the past couple years steady.

Anonymous Sun Jun 28 02:45:30 2015 No.8433902

>>8433882
Most lolitas don't realize that brand is actually not that great quality. The major brands like AP, BtSSB, MMM, etc. are the best the fashion has to offer as far as quality, and lolitas typically don't know much about tailoring outside of lolita, so they tend to think it's much better than it really is. I'm not hating on brand or anything, I'm a shameless brandwhore and have never bought a single offbrand main piece in the 8 years I've been a lolita, I'm just simply stating facts. Take any decently seamstress into a AP store and I guarantee she will agree that the prices of those dresses do not reflect the quality. They reflect the store costs and niche.

Anonymous Sun Jun 28 02:52:44 2015 No.8433920

>>8433882

You're missing the point. Try re-reading the comment you responded to

>it's not whether this dress was worth $230 of labour and materials,

>the design is kind of underwhelming

>it doesn't have brand recognition

The method of production doesn't matter if the item produced is not well-designed.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 28 02:53:16 2015 No.8433921 >>8433902 not even one taobao or indie dress? do you not buy them just because you want to keep your wardrobe all jp brand or because you actually don't like anything they put out? how big is your wardrobe if you don't mind me asking >sage for OT

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 28 02:56:02 2015 No.8433925 >>8433902 Very few things in fashion actually reflect a fair price for materials and labour.

Anonymous Sun Jun 28 02:56:47 2015 No.8433926

>>8433920
Yes, I will admit that I find the design of that dress to be very ugly. Especially the collar.
This does not change the fact that anon thinking it is not worth $100 is completely ridiculous and based on a very limited understanding of the fashion world.

Anonymous Sun Jun 28 02:58:20 2015 No.8433928

>>8433921
Not a single one, never have even once. There's indie dresses I plan on getting eventually, it's just that there's so many things that take priority and they all happen to be brand. I have somewhere between 60 and 70, which might seem like a lot, but keep in mind that's over the span of 8 years, I don't buy lolita very often.

Anonymous Sun Jun 28 03:03:36 2015 No.8433941

>>8433925
Definitely, if anything, lolita is much better priced than most fashions. Just look at any high fashion designers. Alexander McQueen, for example, is a massive rip off as far as materials and quality goes. $1000 for a tank top made out of nothing even remotely special with a pretty dragonfly drawing on it. That's a real example.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 28 03:06:34 2015 No.8433950 >>8433941 Agreed, I think most major lolita brands have a decent price for their quality level. Especially compared to western high-fashion brands.

Anonymous Sun Jun 28 03:07:32 2015 No.8433953

>>8433941
The worst think I've seen is $1000 grey sweat pants that:
>had no interesting construction/fit
>no interesting details
>the material it was made from was not rough, but definitely not that soft or breathable.
I mean if you're going to over charge like that, at least make the fit of them interesting

Anonymous Sun Jun 28 03:15:41 2015 No.8433961

>>8433902

They're overpriced, I'll agree, but on the other hand, they're also reliably good quality.

You only have to look at Jesus Diamante to see what truly overpriced low quality dresses are. Same pricing as lolita dresses, but the skirts are narrower (meaning they use less fabric) and the lace is cheap plastic raschel lace.

On the other hand. If you go out strictly looking for the highest quality dress ever, pretty soon you'll find yourself standing in a Chanel shop looking at a dress that's one-of-a-kind and made to fit you alone perfectly, hand-sewn trim, high quality fabric and trim, couture sewing, moves with you when you walk -- and the price tag is easily 10-100x of a lolita outfit.

Lolita's a nice mid-level quality. Yes, it's overpriced, but it's not really that expensive. Yes, it's mass-produced, but that doesn't mean it's on the same level as cheap Leg Avenue shit. For the price you get very well constructed dresses made of decent fabric, and the trim is definitely not the cheap stuff.

As consumers, mass production makes this kind of mid-level quality affordable for us, so you can certainly bet I'm all for mass production, not against it. It's great that I can get a good-looking dress for $250 instead of having to settle for a basic-looking dress just because I'm paying someone to sew it in their home.

Then, for the special occassions where I do need something that's tailored specially for me, made for me and me alone, that's the time when I look for a good commissioner and pay her what her skills are worth, not according to what a mass market dress is priced at. See, it's totally okay to know that this and that are not the same, and to like the freedom of having both options.

Anonymous Sun Jun 28 03:17:09 2015 No.8433966

>>8433926

She said she didn't think it was "worth $100" without an explanation. People frequently use the word "worth" in different ways, there's even brand dresses that aren't "worth" $0 because no one wants them (Dreamy Baby Room or the btssb ice cream waittress dress). All I did was offer an alternate explanation, she may not have been thinking about the method of production when she gave her opinion on what the dress was "worth".

Anonymous Sun Jun 28 03:32:09 2015 No.8433987

>>8433961
Just droppin in to say that lolita is nowhere as mass produced as some mainstream brands in the same price range. I love gothninja clothes but 250$ for a mass produced not-so-good quality All Saints dress makes me cringe. When I buy a lolita dress, there is top 50 of this exact one in the same color and cut. That's why I don't mind paying 250$+ for it. It's pretty unique.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 28 06:38:54 2015 No.8434216 Is anyone willing to be a shopping service for me to buy the Jane Marple strap shoes from target For the originals I'm looking for the black ones in L and those are sold out unfortunately.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 28 06:42:49 2015 No.8434218 >>8433966 Thanks anon. No idea why people have been so up in arms about others criticizing dress prices lately. I think the design and construction looks cheap compared to the AP dress that was posted earlier.

Anonymous Sun Jun 28 09:58:59 2015 No.8434393

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a1z10.3-c.w4002-9479593900.57.oA5JLz&id=38905796299

Has anyone bought these before? I'm interested in the gold constellation patterned ones but since there's mostly just starry ones and I can't read chinese I can't tell if it's unrelated, or a different colour option.

Also, if it's just for the starry tights, could I get some recommendations on constellation patterned tights? Preferably stretchy ones.

Thank you!

Anonymous Sun Jun 28 10:48:06 2015 No.8434438

I really, really need advice on what to do about a sale gone wrong, Anons! The city has about 8 zipcodes, each off by 1 digit each. Was mailed to correct zipcode. Tracking number says it was delivered in the city, but not to the zipcode buyer listed. Buyer is saying the package never reached them. What would you do about this?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 28 11:09:03 2015 No.8434452 i've read comm reviews but is fanplusfriend worth it to spend ~400 on? they have a lot of shirts I really like and in my size >tfw man

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 28 11:20:41 2015 No.8434462 >>8434452 I hear that their custom sizing can be pretty wonky. Have you spoken to any of the indie blouse makers on facebook, like Glitter Tale?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 28 11:30:03 2015 No.8434471 >>8434452 $400?? Definitely not. $40, maybe yeah. They have some okay blouses.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 28 11:54:16 2015 No.8434498 >>8434216 Hate to break it to you anon. but they appear to be a online only item.

Anonymous Sun Jun 28 12:02:08 2015 No.8434507

>>8434471
400 yuan, you nobend

>>8434452
My experience is mixed. A blouse that had a great fit but shitty material, a decent jacket, a really weirdly cut vest.
It depends on your standards. I've personally become a bit of a perfectionist and I'd rather pay twice the money for something that's more than okay.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 28 12:04:02 2015 No.8434508 >>8434498 So? I mean ordering online from them and sending it to me. The second comment was about the original Jane Marples.

Anonymous Sun Jun 28 12:32:03 2015 No.8434546

>>8434462
they look really girly and not quite my taste for the examples they had on their facebook.
I can fit in to the regular sizes, so I wouldn't need it custom.

>>8434507
how was it shitty material?
was it like the crappy lolita with satin i've seen for shitty in a different way?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 28 12:35:05 2015 No.8434554 >>8434546 It wasn't satin, not super shiny. It was just that the fabric attracted dirt from a 30 mile radius.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 28 12:43:58 2015 No.8434566 >>8434546 They can make men's designs, I've seen some.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 28 13:31:31 2015 No.8434612 >>8434566 Do you mind linking I can't find them on either the facebook or tumblr.

Anonymous Sun Jun 28 13:52:19 2015 No.8434640

>>8434438

Only thing you can do: contact the post office and tell them there is a problem. Tell your buyer to do the same. Both of you should at least be able to file a formal complaint that a package was lost and get someone to try and figure out exactly where it was delivered to, and then take things on from there. With any luck she may be able to retrieve the package from the person it was wrongly delivered to.

Also check whether you're covered or insured against mail loss. Particularly if the tracking shows the parcel was delivered to one zipcode while your receipt (or if you have a photo of the address before you mailed it out), it should be easy to point out that the post office is at fault.

Good luck, anon. This is the stuff of lolita nightmares.

>>	destieleste@ymail.com Sun Jun 28 14:02:37 2015 No.8434647 >>8434508 If you're willing to pay the obscene amount of shipping it costs to ship internationally from the U.S. plus a 10% fee, I'll do it for you. Drop me an email if you're still interested.

Anonymous Sun Jun 28 14:21:00 2015 No.8434665
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Do people like or want price tags? i've got probably over a hundred of them from various brands by now, I wonder if there's any use to them, or if I should just throw them out? Obviously I'll be saving the ones that come with spare buttons and fabric swatches, it's the plain cardboard ones with nothing on them that I don't know if I should keep.

I've seen someone try to sell them on egl comm sales years ago, and that person got mocked here for it, but hey, if someone wants them for arts and crafts I'll put them up as a pay-shipping-only kind of deal. The only other thing I can think of is that it might be nice to send on the price tags if I decide to sell a dress, but I'm not sure if that's worth keeping a hundred price tags, just so I can send one tag to someone who buys something from me.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 28 14:24:02 2015 No.8434670 >>8434640 Thank you, Anon! I'm totally kicking myself because I was in a hurry on my lunch break when I shipped it, so I stupidly did not take a photo of the address. I'm going to start investigating tomorrow, hopefully this will have an easy resolve.

Anonymous Sun Jun 28 14:26:53 2015 No.8434673

>>8434665
I think people suspect those who buy brand tags due to the possibility that they could always pass off a replica as the real deal because "I have the tag after all!"

I personally keep my tags/buttons/swatches as well. It's kind of neat to see what I've collected and how much I've spent. But I do include them if I resell the items.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 28 14:29:10 2015 No.8434678 >>8434665 I think selling them as pay-shipping-only would be a good idea. you'll get rid of them, make someone else happy and won't get shit about it.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 28 14:36:56 2015 No.8434691 >>8434508 Sorry I can't read today.

Anonymous Sun Jun 28 14:54:12 2015 No.8434722

>>8433902
I've worked as a professional seamstress, and the price of lolita clothing (not the shoes or bags or jewelry) is reasonable for manufactured clothing of that quality level, especially since they have small production runs and physical locations. The quality of brand is generally on par with midlevel western clothing brands for which you'd expect to spend $160-$200 for a simple cut dress without ruffles and trims and ~$100 for a plain blouse. The better lolita brands are as well made as off-the-rack lines from US designers like Kate Spade, who charge upwards of $400 for a dress and $200 for a cotton cardigan. Jane Marple is generally better made at the same price point. As with all fashion, you are paying for the design in addition to the quality of the cut, materials, and quality control. Every clothing designer puts out some duds and has a range of quality in their products, but lolita is by no means uniquely "overpriced" or out of line price-wise with other off the rack clothing brands.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 28 15:23:03 2015 No.8434762 >>8434665 Use them as labels for organization. Or tiny boxes and things for bjd if you have those.

Anonymous Sun Jun 28 15:33:00 2015 No.8434776

>>8434673

Yeah, I started keeping them because I thought it'd be cool to look back and see what I've collected. But now the collection became disorganised and is starting to take up space.

>>8434678

Thanks, I'll definitely do this if I decide to get rid of them.

>>8434762

Sorry, can you elaborate a little bit more on this? I can't really picture how to use them that way.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 28 15:43:10 2015 No.8434791 >>8434665 I staple them to my invoice and file it so I can use that as part of my proof pix when I sell but I won't ever include them because I don't want people re-attaching them or putting them on a replica or some other BS.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 28 20:13:08 2015 No.8435380 >>8434507 Why on earth would the price be in yuan though? Their website prices are USD, unless they have a taobao shop I haven't heard about (if so, my bad).

Anonymous Sun Jun 28 20:18:48 2015 No.8435389
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In general, do you seagulls think gothic and kuro coords look better with lighter colored hair/wigs? Perhaps the contrast is better? And is it me or does dark brown/auburn colored hair for classic styles just seem more fitting? Just wondering about these things on a lazy sunday.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 28 20:26:30 2015 No.8435401 >>8435389 I am waiting and taking notes. >be azn >look fucking horrible in wigs any lighter than chocolate >why live

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 28 21:09:21 2015 No.8435451 >>8435389 Though I personally wear my natural (brown) hair for both styles, I'd say either black or blonde suits kuro coords the best, and I think any natural hair color is equally suiting for classic.

Anonymous Sun Jun 28 21:46:53 2015 No.8435531

>>8435389
kind of unrelated but I find it so interesting how strongly hair color plays into lolita coordinates. I suppose it's because of how huge a factor color coordination is in putting outfits together, but you don't generally see that kind of importance put on hair color in other kinds of fashion. Dunno, just find it funny I guess, but I completely understand the reason why people care about it more in this fashion.

Anonymous Sun Jun 28 22:07:55 2015 No.8435581

>>8435401
Fwiw, I think Asians look great with natural color hair in every style. But have you tried milk tea blends? Or chocolate with chestnut?

>>8435389
I'm pale with sallow skin so I use white, platinum, ashy blonde or black for Gothic/Kuro/Shiro and everything from ash blonde to milk tea to a chocolate blend for classic. On me, black wig for classic looks harsh. I like blonde wigs on lots of people but they have to be the right blonde go well with your skin tone. I think milk tea suits the most skin tones if people only get one wig for everything.

Anonymous Sun Jun 28 22:19:49 2015 No.8435596

>>8435581
I got Dream Holic's (yeah I know) Apple Jelly in chocolate and it looks so bad against my skin (I'm pale) and so damn unnatural. I don't know if it's just a combination of my skin + dark eyes or something (can't wear contacts thanks to my astigmatism). I haven't dared to try any lighter combination because Im afraid of just wasting money and it looking shit on me. Hence I just stick with black wigs. I just looked up milk tea blend wigs and they're really cute (reminds me of the swan kiss girls) but just.. urgh.. I know it'll look shit on me.

I always did think that DH's chocolate was a little bit too light to be... well, chocolate.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 28 22:46:29 2015 No.8435674 >>8435596 do you still have the wig? if so I might be interested

Anonymous Sun Jun 28 22:52:07 2015 No.8435689

>>8435674
I do, but it's probably stashed somewhere because I'm in the process of moving some stuff. Also at work atm so if you check back in about 4-5 hours I can post some shitty mobile pics. I haven't cut the bangs on it because I tried it on, recoiled in horror when I saw myself in the mirror and proceeded to stuff it back into the bag.

Anonymous Mon Jun 29 00:24:17 2015 No.8435928

>>8430299
I use rule of 3rds. Your body is divided into three parts. Head (wig and headbow), torso/midsection (purse included here) and legwear. Use 1 base color in each of these parts. I had to start from the beginning too, and I found doing 1-3 color coords greatly helped (if 3rd color is neutral - otherwise, 2 colors, keep it simple)
keep it simple, stupid is good advice if you wanna level up your coord from where you are

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 00:31:12 2015 No.8435941 >>8431866 >>8432453 I wonder, could we take some more photos of the interiors of different brand pieces? I'm really interested in seeing how different things are lined/faced/etc, but there's nothing on Google.

Anonymous Mon Jun 29 01:35:51 2015 No.8436095

>>8435389
Just personal opinion, but the contrast really adds to the stylized doll look, with the typical blond hair and big eyes. I am sure some gothic coords would look better with darker hair or even jet black for a more sophisticated look though.

My natural hair is basically black ("Asian natural black"), which doesn't look great next to brown and only seems to work if my coord is casual or has some black in it. It's easier to just wear a wig anyways than to style my own hair in some desperate attempt to match.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 02:26:54 2015 No.8436179 Has anyone's IW happy packs been sent out? It's been over a week since I've paid the invoice. How long do they take to send stuff?

Anonymous Mon Jun 29 02:40:52 2015 No.8436205
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Does anyone know where I can get my hands on a copy of AP Imai Kira art? Postcard, poster, anything is fine- I would love to have anything that has pic related on it.

Anonymous Mon Jun 29 03:05:52 2015 No.8436247

Can anyone recommend a decent quality, but cheap, witch hat? I need something I can decorate for a Halloween coord- I'm going to add a lot of trim & such to it but I need a base that's not too crappy for lolita. I'm flexible on size/style, but I need it to be black and ideally around $20 or less.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 03:12:50 2015 No.8436256 >>8436247 Just make it from felt. Super easy. Since you are adding trims you can use black millinery for the brim and disguise it with lace.

Anonymous Mon Jun 29 04:35:16 2015 No.8436397
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I'm doing a wardrobe clean out and I can't decide if I want to get rid of my demonias. Would they work ok with gothic or are they too chunky?

I really don't want to part with them but I can't find any reason to keep them

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 05:04:01 2015 No.8436431 >>8436397 they could work for really oldschool stuff

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 05:50:49 2015 No.8436471 File: 875 KB, 250x226, 1424863267951.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] This is a newbie question, but how to payment plans usually work? Do I ship the dress out before or after they've paid it all?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 06:03:51 2015 No.8436485 >>8436471 After. And make sure you get a non-refundable deposit in case they cancel.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 07:52:01 2015 No.8436598 >>8436397 I think they work for more old school gothic look. Goodness, I used to have a pair exactly the same that I used to wear to school, the nostalgia is strong.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 10:46:29 2015 No.8436768 File: 72 KB, 360x460, 120520030019-0.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Oh no I really want it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 11:33:46 2015 No.8436866 >>8436768 Right after the summer sales. Now our wallets are empty AF. How smart they are.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 14:16:23 2015 No.8437272 >>8436205 you can order her Pannier Art Book from CDJapan, http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/product/NEOBK-1727194 Also from time to time I see postcards of hers on Lace Market and on the eastern 2nd hand sales sites too.

Anonymous Mon Jun 29 14:18:35 2015 No.8437280

>>8435941
That could be a cool tumblr or something, like the bodyline needs better stock pictures one. Girls could submit pictures of the interior of dresses or something.

>>8436397
Cute for old school gothic

>>8436768
Oh god damn it Meta, now I need this shit

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 15:49:22 2015 No.8437501 >>8436205 Not the image you're looking for, but lolita desu seems to have a pretty good selection of imai kira postcards.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 16:30:09 2015 No.8437595 >>8431687 that was the most cringe inducing piece of text I've ever had the misfortune of reading Tell me Alanah didn't write that herself, did she?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 17:09:10 2015 No.8437703 >>8436768 I'm dying for the blouse the model is wearing with this series, but the series page has no mention of a blouse. Does anyone know if it's an older release or should I email Meta to ask if it's something they'll release later?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 17:26:02 2015 No.8437755 >>8432461 as usual. I swear there are zero actual decent secrets

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 17:27:42 2015 No.8437762 >>8433035 No, I might have, but something about it looks cheap for me. perhaps it's the colour? I love the idea though

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 18:38:07 2015 No.8437923 >>8436768 Every now and then Meta releases something cute

Anonymous Tue Jun 30 05:46:58 2015 No.8439283
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Is this dress Kyary Pamyu Pamyu wear during her Colorful Panic Toy Box tour a brand OP or is this an original design? I like it a lot and I was wondering if I could buy it somewhere. I don't want to do a replica. It's a pain in the ass to do replicas with such intricate design.

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