JetJ Glory Days

[Anonymous No.8399594]

Let's reminisce over when Juliette et Justine still released dresses with delicate details, choice fabrics, and didn't just throw out paintings with lazy bodices or photoshop vomit.

[Anonymous No.8399595]

>>8399594

[Anonymous No.8399599]

>>8399595

[Anonymous No.8399600]

>>8399599

[Anonymous No.8399601]

>>8399594
seriously their older shit was beautiful. I didn't mind the first couple painting dresses but it's all gone more and more downhill since cock ass pussy bitch dress.

[Anonymous No.8399602]

>>8399600

[Anonymous No.8399605]

>>8399602

[Anonymous No.8399606]

>>8399605

[Anonymous No.8399608]

>>8399606

[Anonymous No.8399609]

You can literally pinpoint the season where my heart ripped in half.

[Anonymous No.8399610]

>>8399608
One of my favourites

[Anonymous No.8399615]

>>8399609
I always held out hope that the painting trend would pass, or that they'd keep releasing this sort of stuff alongside the painting dresses, but no dice.

[Anonymous No.8399616]

Does anyone have a picture of that beige tartan dress they did, I think 5 years ago? It's truly the one that got away from me.

[Anonymous No.8399618]

>>8399615

[Anonymous No.8399622]

>>8399616
In another life, I would be your girl

[Anonymous No.8399623]

>>8399622
We'd keep all our promises, be us against the world

[Anonymous No.8399626]

>>8399599
Apparently they're going to rerelease this one?

[Anonymous No.8399628]

>>8399626
I don't trust them as far as I can throw them when it comes to announced re-releases. They said they were going to re-release this baby eons ago and there hasn't been a peep about it since.

[Anonymous No.8399631]

>>8399623
Oh god, there it is. My baby.

[Anonymous No.8399633]

Which painted dress was the one that started it all? I forgot.

[Anonymous No.8399635]

>>8399601
I still remember the days how excited the classic lolita community became over their first painting dresses in 2010-2011, everyone and their mom creamed theirselves over Amour d'amants or Rosery solennel, because this direction was so fresh and unusual and JetJ was the first brand who introduced painting dresses, so even though the designs were more simple, they yet had some kind of luxury and exclusive feeling to it.

I still like most of the painting dresses they came up with in 2011-2012, but after a while it just became boring and repititive. The older painting dresses were also much, much cheaper than everything they release nowadays, so they were worth the price imo. I still find it sad though, that they dropped their old route off completely, though. A few painting dresses a year would be fine, but I wish they kept their focus on the more detailed and luxury non printed dresses.

[Anonymous No.8399639]

>>8399633
I think the first one they released that blew up to any degree was the Amour d'Amants robe, but I could be wrong, I stopped paying attention for a while in 2011.

The only painting dress that ever appealed to me is pic related.

[Anonymous No.8399641]

>>8399639
dropped pic

[Anonymous No.8399645]

>>8399641
My first thought was that it looks like someone came all over the bodice. It has a nice ghostly feel to it tho.

[Anonymous No.8399661]

>>8399641
This one and Biblioethique are the only new style jetj dresses that ever appealed to me at all. I'd like La Fee d'Une Fleur, but the original is pretty uncommon, and I'm not sure the rerelease (if it happens) will be the same quality.

[Anonymous No.8399662]

My entire wish list is old jetj :'( I want them to go back to this style sooooo badly. So far I've collected quite a bit of good old stuff...but it takes so long for something good to pop up

[Anonymous No.8399663]

the textures and layers back then were to die for

[Anonymous No.8399668]

the textures and layers were so good back then

[Anonymous No.8399771]

Fuck, yes please

[Anonymous No.8399775]

>>8399771
This coatdress reminds me of vintage Dior, I want it so badly.

[Anonymous No.8399795]

This seems like the right place to ask. Does anyone know the name of this JetJ dress? I saw it in someone's sales post ages and ages ago, it became a dream dress but silly me didn't write down the name and now I have no idea what it's called.

[Anonymous No.8399856]

[Anonymous No.8399865]

>>8399775
That coat haunts my dreams!

[Anonymous No.8399982]

>>8399795
Une robe du bouquet rose

[Anonymous No.8400353]

>>8399856
hello new dream dress

[Anonymous No.8400395]

>>8399628
Fuck JetJ, seriously. I had the money put aside all year and checked for updates religiously, and nothing. Fuck them.

[Anonymous No.8400420]

Lazy bodices, ugh.
This is one of my favourite bodices from JetJ, but I never liked the print on the skirt.

[Anonymous No.8400425]

>>8399795
thanks anon, now i'll have to challenge you to a duel if this beauty ever shows up.

[Anonymous No.8400441]

Didn't JetJ do some sort of survey thing a while back about pieces to re-release? Did anything ever come of that? Or am I thinking of another brand?

[Anonymous No.8401255]

First of all, thank you anons, I only even got into the fashion around a few years ago and had no idea old JetJ stuff was actually so much nicer. Perhaps it won't be as absent a brand from my wardrobe as I thought/planned

Secondly, just look at this glorious coat

[Anonymous No.8401734]

>>8399628
I was praying for e re-release for this for so long...

>>8400420
I had the chance to admire this dress in person and it is just stunning. The bodice is simply beautiful!

I love so many "old" JetJ design but I'm so happy that one of my ultimate dream dresses got a re-release: Robe du Muguet.
Maybe we shouldn't give up hope for the other designs. meanwhile I'll post some of my favourites.

[Anonymous No.8401736]

>>8401734
>Bisque Doll

[Anonymous No.8401739]

>>8401736
>La Pièce du Petit Créature
The fabric is lovely!

[Anonymous No.8401742]

>>8401739
>La vie d'aristocrate

[Anonymous No.8401748]

>>8401742
>Ange et jardin de rose JSK
The print in blue is my favourite.

[Anonymous No.8401753]

>>8401748
>Une Couronne Noble

[Anonymous No.8401755]

>>8401753
>Décor sucré JSK

[Anonymous No.8401758]

>>8399631
http://item.rakuten.co.jp/tokyoalice/a71215/

[Anonymous No.8401759]

>>8401755
>Belle Pierreries Robe de Soirée

[Anonymous No.8401762]

>>8401759
>Antique Cherub JSK

[Anonymous No.8401765]

>>8401762
>Ange de musique

[Anonymous No.8401772]

>>8401765
>Princesse du pays que vous rectifiez

[Anonymous No.8401792]

>>8399641
I adore this dress, makes me think of phantoms and the like. JetJ had some amazing textured black pieces as well, why can't they just go back to that era?

[Anonymous No.8401808]

>>8400441
I remember that, it was 2 or 3 years ago iirc. Most of the choices were more recent designs (aka painting dresses) or really ugly ass dresses that were never ever popular to begin with. Lot's of people were disappointed with the choices. Le Cadre du chat and Star Money won that survey, and that was already predictable with the choices there were.

I voted for the dragon dress, even though it wasn't one of the official choices, but yeah, it obviously didn't help.

[Anonymous No.8401840]

>>8399795
This was recently on Y!J and I ended up buying it. It went for about 15k, anon, so expect to spend around that in the future!

[Anonymous No.8402197]

>>8399628
They probably decided not to because they aren't ready for the bloodshed that would result.

[Anonymous No.8402199]

>>8402197
Almost every JetJ release is made to order.

[Anonymous No.8402940]

>>8399982
>>8401840

Wow, thank you so much anons!

>>8400425
Well, that was unexpected.

[Anonymous No.8402981]

>>8401736
The black version of this is so beautiful,it will be mine one day

>lust intensifies

[Anonymous No.8403002]

>>8399626
I think they either have already or it's coming up very soon. It was in Kera (or another magazine maybe) recently but they've changed the bodice. It's disappointing.

[Anonymous No.8403040]

>>8402981
it's on y!j right now

[Anonymous No.8403109]

>>8399662
dat drape! hng.

[Anonymous No.8403127]

I love this one.

[Anonymous No.8403383]

This will always and forever be my dreamiest of dream dresses. Every detail on its own gets me so excited, then all together...oh yeah...

[Anonymous No.8403393]

>>8403383
The ruched bodice makes me think of when your fingers get really wrinkly after too long in a cold pool.

Y-you're welcome.

[Anonymous No.8403450]

>>8403393
Noooooooooooooo

[Anonymous No.8404043]

>>8403040
I'm increasing my bid, wish me luck

[Anonymous No.8404065]

>>8402981
I would like it in blue. I wish you good luck for your hunt.

[Anonymous No.8404077]

>>8399601
cock ass pussy bitch dress?

[Anonymous No.8404081]

>>8404077
>http://lolibrary.org/apparel/robe-de-breme-jsk

[Anonymous No.8404086]

>>8404081
wow you were not kidding
attached is Il est Beau Coloration des Fleurs JSK

[Anonymous No.8404209]

>>8402199
Oh.

It's Le Premier Cri de Prophete, though. There will still be bloodshed in some form or another.

[Anonymous No.8404225]

I know they make way less of them, but I think they still release gorgeous non-print dresses...or am I the onley one who likes these?

[Anonymous No.8404226]

>>8404225
*only

[Anonymous No.8404489]

>>8404225
This dress looked shitty on the model, that's why I deciced agains't buying it. It is really gorgeous irl and now I regret my decision deeply...
On the other hand, one girl I was talking to, said her dress had issues with the construction, so I'm not sure if it's worth the retail price

>>8404226
This one would be nice, if they used some kind of cotton instead of that shitty shiny fabric. Often they are trying too hard and it turns out bad.

[Anonymous No.8404657]

>>8399594
I'm still a bit new to the fashion, but I always disliked the painting dresses. Seeing stuff like this hurts my heart because i had no idea JetJ made things so pretty.

[Anonymous No.8404668]

>>8404081
I love this dress. Not for lolita at all but as a general dress. Also I'm biased as fuck because I was in a Town Musicians of Bremen play when I was a kid.

[Anonymous No.8404669]

>>8403393
I was thinking of this. Or brains.

It's one of those things where I can really appreciate the detail and effort that went into the construction but not sure if the result is flattering/worth it...

[Anonymous No.8404673]

>>8404225
>de la antique doll
>not l'antique doll

i don't even speak french and this bothers me.

[Anonymous No.8404674]

>>8404489
>This one would be nice, if they used some kind of cotton instead of that shitty shiny fabric. Often they are trying too hard and it turns out bad.

Disagree. That fabric has great drape is dressier and pairs better with the detailed front than a cotton sateen would.

[Anonymous No.8404846]

>>8404225
I thought this dress looked so ridiculous and then I saw some pictures of girls wearing it and man do I wish I bought it.

[Anonymous No.8404849]

>>8404673
Oh.. I thought it was supposed to be spanish

[Anonymous No.8404859]

>>8399641
This is beautiful but doesn't read as 'lolita' to me at all. About as much as any random sundress that cut with a picture plastered on it.

[Anonymous No.8404903]

>>8404226
This is beautiful, and I fucking hate J et J I just want to look like Wedgwood ceramics

[Anonymous No.8405169]

Can anyone post a visual timeline of where they went downhill? Like maybe their 4 main dresses per year, to show the decay?

These are gorgeous. I'd be way more into classic if they were like this again.

Also, was the price about what it is now? I don't touch JetJ because they're just that "overpriced 'painting lolita' brand" to me right now.

[Anonymous No.8405187]

>>8404081
holy kek, how did I not see this sooner!?

[Anonymous No.8405191]

>>8405187
You think that's bad- the made a dress where they put a nutcracker right over the vag area

[Anonymous No.8405903]

>>8399599
Does anyone own this JSK? I'm just curious how all of the edges of the scallops are finished.

[Anonymous No.8405909]

>>8405191
I seriously don't understand what it is with you Americans needing to make EVERYTHING sexual.

It's a fucking picture over the middle of a huge poofy skirt. It's nowhere near your crotch and it in no way represents to appears to be any kind of reproductive organ.

[Anonymous No.8405913]

>>8404043
Go anon! Go!

[Anonymous No.8405917]

>>8405191
Top.
KEK

[Anonymous No.8405924]

>>8405191
Well, the name of the fricking brand is a Sade reference, what did you expect ?

[Anonymous No.8405952]

>>8405924
?

[Anonymous No.8405968]

>>8405952
Marquis de Sade, anon

[Anonymous No.8406014]

>>8401772
Their naming sense never ceases to make me kek. What the hell is that even supposed to mean !

[Anonymous No.8406018]

>>8406014
>Princess of the country you're correcting
As in someone actually trying to rule correctly after her awful father ?

[Anonymous No.8406773]

>>8404849

For JetJ's eternal french boner and being mostly full french in background, I've always been embarrassed by it as well. I know a lot of lolita takes inspiration from old, western fashion, but sometimes it almost sounds clownish. Does no one in all of Japan know a bit of French to correct them? Do Japanese lolitas drool at the mere mention of a French word? A quick googling of appropriate phrases would seriously save them the trouble.

[Anonymous No.8406778]

>>8404489

Everyone always says modern JetJ has construction issues. Can anyone be specific with what they are?

Also, is there any alternative for good construction, hopefully at a lesser price, that looks kind of like old JetJ? This type of classic is what I want.

[Anonymous No.8406809]

>>8406778
Most of the time it's unfinished hems or edges, some parts not properly - or only partially sewn on. Sometimes there are issues with sizing and seemless patterning, too.

Sometimes even contruction failures (like an high neck blouse with an back zipper so short you can not fit your head through, or that unicorn dress).

[Anonymous No.8406839]

someone buy this beauty for me T_T i need a size 2 and this keeps coming up. FUUUUUUU

http://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/191668402

[Anonymous No.8406856]

>>8406778
An oldschool brand named Utage (魔宮の宴) made similar clothing to old JetJ and other classic brands, I will dig up some pictures and post them.

But this aestetic is pretty much outdated (sadly), I don't know any brand still in business today that might compare.

[Anonymous No.8406866]

>>8406018
>>>8406014 (You)
>>Princess of the country you're correcting
>As in someone actually trying to rule correctly after her awful father ?
As in you're correcting her country like you would correct a measurement, the phrasing is atrocious and using rectifiez here doesn't make sense. But there again most of it sounds like straight up Google translate.

[Anonymous No.8407012]

>>8406778
I have four modern J et J dresses and they are all properly and well constructed, and all are pattern matched at the seams.

[Anonymous No.8409464]

>>8405909
Wash the sand out of your cunt. Did you order this ugly dress or something?

[Anonymous No.8409485]

>>8406778
I have like a dozen JetJ pieces and I don't see any construction issues. The worst I see is the prints are a little more blurry on some of my newer pieces and they seem to use slightly heavier fabric or add little hidden details in some of my slightly older pieces. I don't have any really old pieces though.

Everyone cites the Unicorn dress fiasco, and yes that was bad, but to JetJ's credit, they refunded return shipping and fixed the sizing for everyone who wanted it AND they shipped the dresses out back for free with an apology. Other than not messing up the size to begin with, they did everything in their power to make things right.

[Anonymous No.8409537]

>>8409485
>they refunded return shipping and fixed the sizing for everyone who wanted it AND they shipped the dresses out back for free with an apology. Other than not messing up the size to begin with, they did everything in their power to make things right.

Good for you. I ordered my unicorn dress through a shopping service, and I never received the chance to get my dress fixed. I understand if dresses purchased through a shopping can not be returned, but at least, I expected an apology on that colossal fuck up they caused.
I wasted half a grand on that dress, all for nothing. Never ever fucking again.

And it's not the only piece they fucked up for me, maybe I'm really unlucky with JetJ, but wouldn't take the risk with them ever again.

[Anonymous No.8409971]

>>8405909
While I agree there is nothing sexual about the dress, its not an American thing.

[Anonymous No.8410163]

>>8409537
> but at least, I expected an apology on that colossal fuck up they caused.

Lol yeah right. Don't act like you wouldn't still be upset because they actually did apologize once they realized how badly they fucked up.

[Anonymous No.8410233]

>>8406778

I have maybe 6+ pieces of JetJ dating from Feerie onwards (including Unicorn). They don't really have "construction issues" per se, at least not in the way that Bodyline will have backwards print or sew a skirt panel upside down, or the way Soufflesong/Neverland is badly constructed, or the way 3F apparently employs drunk sewists. Every JetJ dress I have is made from decent fabric, the hems and seams are sewn straight, the print is properly centred, and every dress is finished nicely.

JetJ's "construction issues" seem to happen more in the design stage, I don't know if they're just bad design decisions or if they're actively trying to cut corners. For instance, if you buy an art print that's based off old artworks, those tend to come out looking blurry, maybe as a result of working with low res publicly available images. On another skirt (the castle skirt, I think), the skirt is not hemmed; the fabric apparently does not fray easily, so this seems to be a design decision on JetJ's part. It's just that when you paid that much for a skirt, it'd be nice for it to be hemmed, you know? For the Unicorn dress, while it's true that it's too small, for the entire production run to be entirely too small, means JetJ's sizing is actually pretty uniform for the entire production. Where they messed up was making the pattern too small in the first place. Every piece they mess up on has problems that are specific to that release, it's not a problem that happens to any random dress.

So basically, not really "construction issues" in the sense that they're shoddy, in fact, their quality is still top notch. But every year they seem to have a couple of specific pieces that has some kind of unexpected issue.

[Anonymous No.8411491]

>>8410233
>or the way 3F apparently employs drunk sewists
Deets? Never heard any complaints about their construction.

[Anonymous No.8411697]

>>8411491

http://egl.livejournal.com/19717247.html

The post is members-only, but the long and short of it is that rainedragon bought a 3f skirt and found it to be shoddily sewn with every single straight line being anything but straight.

[Anonymous No.8411704]

ultimate dream dress, pic related. some girl had it on this year's wardrobe posts on egl.

[Anonymous No.8411712]

So perfect. They used to make so many classic-gothic things.

[Anonymous No.8411716]

>>8410233
I bought one of JetJ's art collage prints and couldn't believe my eyes on the resolution on some of the elements. It's like 80% were perfectly crisp and the rest was obviously scaled up from way too small images. It was so obvious, why did no one care to find a higher resolution image?