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8322898 No.8322898 [Reply] [Original]

Is visual-kei allowed here?

>> No.8322903

Isn't that oshare though

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Have a selpost

>> No.8323779

>>8323770
Sorry, I don't know why it's sideways. It's vertical on my phone

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I've always loved vk. If I were young again I would really like to do it at cons, but it essentially requires you to be really cut, young, and somewhat-naturally attractive.

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>>8323998
just do spoopy makeup like kyo and have your hair on point and the attractiveness factor will matter less

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>>8323998

> you know, a lot of these guys are in their late twenties to mid thirties, some older than that. It's really all in the makeup.

Just look at swag lord Angel Taka. I heard he is pushing 50.

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I love visual kei but the MI scene has literally no one other than me that I know if, and it always feels like a huge waste of effort. Attached is my dream cosplay lol, I'm really old.

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>>8324114

I've found the best way to deal with a lack of a scene is to be initiative. Like, i've never not done something because there was no scene, but i've found that people will come out of the woods if someone sparks the flame.

>> No.8324240

>>8324057
>Angel Taka
Noiz was a guest at our local convention 2-3 times and they were always super nice so even though I've stopped being a fan of their music there's no stopping being a fan of their personalities or their costumes.

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This may seem like an odd request, but can anyone give me advice as to what to tell my stylist the next time I go to a salon if I want to style my hair vk-ish?

I have thick, curly, slight past shoulder length hair that I straighten often but have never actually styled. Given my lack of termniology (average guy here) with hair, what should I tell the stylist if I plan on doing something often like pic related?

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>>8325648

You're over thinking it. Just take a picture of what you want to a competent stylist and explain a little of what you're looking for. Most of them should be able to give you details of how to achieve what you want as well.

>> No.8325907

Lolita here, just wondering what makes VK what it is? I've seen it for years, and even though I could look at something and probably confirm that it's Visual Kei, why is that? Any sources I've found online contradict one another, is it just the hair, kinda punk and non-matchy?

Also, is oshare-kei still a separate thing?

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>>8325907

Oshare-kei is a sub-genre of Visual-kei.

The best advice I could give to you as far as being able to identify upon sight is to listen to simply listen to the music. Eventually you'll be able to say "Oh, that's visual-kei" rather than "Oh, that's goth/emo/scene/lolita/hipster/etc.)

Off the top of my head I would say check out SuG, D=Out, Exist Trace, LM.C, -Oz-, Versailles, Vistlip, Clearveil to name a few. there are literally so many bands though that i'm sure you'll get a feel quickly enough.

>> No.8325973

>>8325648
I agree with bringing in a photo like >>8325867, the style is more or less getting a layered cut with a fringe but that might sound vague to the hairstylist. You can also ask if they can use a pair of thinning scissors/shears to texture your hair a bit after they cut it, but I think most haidressers that do layered cuts do this anyway.

>>8325907
It's kind of hard to pinpoint a specific sound and appearance because there's a decent variety in VK but I usually associate it with the stage presence the musicians have. The clothing, makeup, hairstyles, body language...

>> No.8325987

>>8325956

I was fooled...

>> No.8326092

I'm just gonna come out and ask.

Is this stuff meant to be gay?

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>>8325907
Think '80's glam rock (Motely Crue or New York Dolls...hell, even Jem and the Holograms) but kicked up a notch in the makeup and clothing department.
The level of flamboyance is mainly what sets it apart from most other things.

>> No.8326898

>>8326092
>
No. They get lots of tail. The Japanese e gay scene (from what I know as a random whitebread in the US) is more about machismo. The appearance is 99% to appeal to the ladies, which is where the fanservice comes into it. If you has ever watched a live you'd know it immediately.

>> No.8326910

Lmao, Scene is so 2006.

>> No.8326938

>>8324057
This is like real life JJBA character. I love it.

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>> No.8327061

>>8325956

I can't believe Hizaki is 36 years old, he is so gorgeous. Also, their new band Jupiter is really awesome.

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>>8327061

forgot pic

>> No.8327132

>>8326951
Would wear the hell out of this outfit.

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>> No.8327823

>>8327142
Kek the right dude looks like yaya.

>> No.8328031

What are some good sites to look into if I wanted to get some vk inspired clothing?

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>>8323998
To be honest, I feel like visual kei is one of the only styles I can pull of because I'm NOT young and cute. I'm tall and I have a long, serious-looking face that doesn't translate well into styles like lolita and mori, but works well for visual kei. Also, visual kei is super forgiving about how your face looks because you can hide so much with a visual kei haircut and heavy makeup. Pic related because it's me, who looks awful in other j-fashions, making visual kei work.

>>8325907
There are so many looks within visual kei, but for casual wear, it's basically just a more goth/punk version of host kei.

>> No.8328288

>>8328141

Very cool. I'm actually starting to see how it differs from similar genres.

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Never thought Akira could look this bad

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>> No.8329009

>>8328805

I love Sex Pot Revenge, but man is this a fine example of some styles just do not match some people.

On topic:

http://www.tokyorebel.com/collections/sex-pot-revenge/products/sex-pot-revenge-crash-pot-asymmetry-knit

Why must I be a poorfag?

>> No.8329030

>>8328141
>I'm tall and I have a long, serious-looking face that doesn't translate well into styles like lolita and mori, but works well for visual kei
Ah same... I'm fairly short but I look like a lovechild of Saoirse Ronan and a horse (you could probably guess who I am in the selfpost thread from this description alone, unfortunately). Jfashion is hell sometimes, in the sense that if you don't look cute and young, you can either be an edgy vampire goth princess or look terrible
>tfw absolutely in love with mori and other cutesy, flowy styles
S-should I look into VK then?

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>>8329030
Sometimes visual kei has mori influences, but generally is still dark and not very cutesy. That sort of look might appeal to you.

>> No.8329062

>>8328805
Reminds of me Gackt

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>>8329030

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXtbzIhVkX4

Anyone can look cute if they do visual kei right. Take Ryuki from Paradies for example in the video above. If you look at his face alone before he starts putting on his makeup and stuff, he looks like your average guy. It really comes down to skin/body care as well working on your style with hair/clothing/makeup.

Remember, be a Ryuki, don't go uneducated and be like pic related.

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When I was in Japan a couple of months ago, I was actually surprised by how "alive" visual kei was (at least in Osaka and Kanazawa).
The VK scene is so quiet here in the U.S....at least here in Colorado.

>> No.8330381

>>8330364
probably because we get very few VK bands over here
hard to have something to flock around when you barely get to see it and experience it live

>> No.8330876

>>8329070
how do these guys deal with their facial hair? It's driving me crazy

>> No.8330977

>>8330876

Shaving like a boss, then covering up with foundation. Or, electrolysis for more severe cases.

>> No.8331420

>>8330364
Back in the early 2000s I got to see quite a few random bands at Midwest cons, but none of them bother with Japanese guests anymore, let alone bands. Even seeing Akira Yamaoka at MMX was a rare treat as a jmu fan. I know it's a pain but those shitty little concerts were awesome!

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I...I miss D'espairsRay...

>> No.8331530

>>8331525
Same

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This is sort of a tricky one. Does anyone have any suggestions and approaches for VK style that could easily be worn in public? I (male) would like to wear a "toned down" style when i'm not with friends or at cons, but i'm not quite sure on how I can achieve a medium of vk and having a crowd of normies constantly staring.

>>8324057

I looooooooove Noiz. I'm really looking out for whenever con they come to in the US again, I have saved up tons of vacation days at work so that I can travel anywhere in the states to see them.

>> No.8333540

>>8332649

You know, I like everything but the paint on his hands.

>> No.8333672

>>8333051
The "not on stage" look for most of them seems to be skinny black pants, boots, a draped or loose black top and expensive sunglasses like Chrome Hearts. I think this + a good haircut would be wearable for everyday wear, although obviously not to the office or w/e.

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>> No.8334855

I know they're more Oshare-kei but I really wish An Cafe would do another European tour.

Speaking of Oshare-kei, seeing as it's pretty much dead now, can anyone share some Oshare-kei brands?

I remember Algonquins and Putumayo were supposedly big ones but they've gone now. Groucho was kinda Oshare-kei but was mainly just LM.C outfits.

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>> No.8336558

>>8334855
>I remember Algonquins and Putumayo were supposedly big ones but they've gone now.
what do you mean by "gone"? they both still release new stuff regularly.

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>> No.8336665

>>8336558

I thought they ended up doing Visual Kei stuff?

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>>8336665
Putumayo has a wide range of pop-punk looking things and Algonquins has stuff like pic related. don't know much about oshare kei but neither seem limited to visual.

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I will never not love Yuh's dolly lips...but more OT is there a way for me to achieve a more vk hairstyle without teasing?

>> No.8337067

>>8336964
Look into silica hair powder, Got2b makes one for about 5bux at Walmart. You still need to tease a little but it makes it much easier and has excellent staying power. Finish of with Got2b Glued hairspray.

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>>8333051
For a more toned down style, I usually do this kind of a look. I feel like visual kei bands these days are more casual than they used to be, so it's easier to be casual and visual at the same time.

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Have some more Shinya.

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>>8337067
Okay, I'll definitely check those out. Thanks, Anon!

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>> No.8340713

>>8328141
I'm the opposite where I feel that I am far too feminine looking, (chubby face) to pull off visual kei looks but luckily I am really into rokku, kuro and ora ora gyaru so I feel like it doesn't look that out of place when I go to see my favorite bands or hang out with my other friends that wear visual kei

>> No.8340740

>>8326318
It does have something to do with how they perform too - a lot of the theatrical during the live shows and promo videos. Can't say too much about the musical structure though (J rock's weird). I noticed that a lot of bands use orchestrated music in addition to their guitars and drums.

>> No.8340819

>>8324057
>david-bowie kei

>> No.8340824

>>8330364
It's probably because in the US everyone immediately just thinks you're trying to be some edgy scene kid.

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>> No.8342960

>>8340713
Honestly, so many vk guys have such "baby faces" that you'd probably be fine to just go for it, if it's something you want to try.

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>> No.8344675

>>8344668
not sure where hair ends and feathers begin.

oldschool vkei is gloriously strange.

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>> No.8345061

Is there a good VK primer or holy bible?

>> No.8345350

I wish visual K was more popular

>> No.8345368

>>8345350
Me too, especially since westerners that get into VK usually seem to be the same grade as the wannabe lolitas that slap on a hot topic dress and fishnets and call it a day.
Think how glorious it would be if for every decent lolita/brolita there was a decent VKer that actually knew how to use make up and wore clothes that looked substantial.

Lolitas and VKers look so good together.

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>>8345368
>Lolitas and VKers look so good together.
always and forever

>> No.8346087

>>8334855
They've been in our children's channel
I cringed all the way through the moderation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGir22phVIw

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>>8346172
this seems more punk than visual kei. it doesn't have the heavy glam i associate with vkei, while it does look like a lot of Kers snaps labeled "punk."

i see feminine vkei being closer to pic related.

>> No.8346251

Any active vk instagrams/tumblrs to follow?

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>> No.8346563

>>8346251
This is who I follow, I'm more active on Tumblr than IG though so way more of the former.
Tumblr:
vampire-symphony
laniusdirge
vampsbloodandrocknroll
tsukii-le-ciel (autoplaying music)
yuuki-maru-kyuu

Instagram:
hibarialon
v.kei___ (that's 3 underscores)

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>>8345368
If it was more popular, it probably would be like that. If there was an actually community large enough to feel like a community, then there would be more accessible advice and criticism. People wearing vk fashion are so few and far between that we're just sort of floating out there on our own, trying to figure it all out by trial and error. I've been into vk fashion for around 10 years now and I feel like the livejournal days were really the peak of visual kei fashion having a community, but these days? Nothing.

I really envy the lolita community, in that regard.

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>>8346251
Tumblr:
mako-maru
ordaskoko
nocturna85
noctis-roku
welcometojrockworld
enchantingmoon
himeyori
rhapsody-black
missfreaks
visualness
istishia

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So of the people posting in this thread, does anyone else here ever wear vk fashion? If not every day, even at cons or something? Because there are some good vk threads here from time to time, but I can never tell how many people are actually wearers themselves vs just admirers.

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>> No.8346779

>>8346752
Yohio is my guilty pleasure.

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>>8346757
I definitely wear visual kei when I go out for a night on the town or even just to walking around downtown.
Even when I'm not dressed to the nines, I still wear vk makeup.

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>>8346820
I'm like that, too. Since I'm a bit older and live in a rural area, I rarely do anything exciting that warrants dressing up anymore, but I've been into vk so long that it's become a really default part of how I look.

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>> No.8347562

>>8346757
I've only just started getting into it, so I'm still building up a wardrobe, but I plan to wear it regularly once I do. I also wear lolita & ouji though so it's hard to find the funds and time for all of it.

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>>8347562
The good thing is that visual kei can share a lot with ouji, so you can shop for tops, jackets, and accessories with both of those styles in mind.

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>>8347669
That's true! I actually have one of the AatP x Versailles collab vests, and another from Excentrique that would be good for a Versailles inspired look. I don't plan on buying any more main pieces for lolita either, but that almost never sticks for long.
>Pic unrelated, just contributing to thread .

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>> No.8354348

I've been looking into visual kei fashion after seeing these beautiful men, literally no homo. What are the major sites that people buy from that ship to America? I really do not know where to start looking. I am male also.

>> No.8355133

>>8354348
CDJapan sells items from the brand Jury Black, which is a mens brand and tends to be pretty visual kei. It really depends on what kind of look you're going for.

>> No.8355291

>>8354348
Personally I don't know of any resources but you are gonna wanna look into what are the popular vkei brands. Some vkei brands' clothing are on some secondhand japanese sites like closetchild, which ships to the U.S., you'll just need to use the egl guide to help you go through the buying process. Anyways there's cdjapan like the other anon mentioned and Tokyo Rebel is a store in NYC which also sells stuff online that stocks some suitable clothing.

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>> No.8355987

>>8354348
>>8355291
ClosetChild is a really good source. The vkei/punk stuff sells really slowly too so you have a better chance of saving up for an item. Some brands/items still go quickly but nothing like the lolita side. You can also search brands on mbok and Y!Japan auctions. h.Naoto, Algonquins, Ozz On, Sex Pot Revenge, Ghost of Harlem, Banana Fish, Deorart, Excentrique, etc. ClosetChild is probably gonna be the easiest and they have pretty good selection.
Dropping down in quality you can also search for visual kei on eBay. No vouching for that, though.

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>>8355987
how is Punk Rave as far as quality? some items seem eBay-tier, but it may just be their presentation.

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Is anyone going to see Kamijo next week? I fucking hope he has his visa's worked out so we dont end up like Brazil and getting fucked over

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>> No.8361298

>>8346172
where to get shoes like this?

>> No.8361300

>>8361298
never mind, i actually tried looking, and the brand is Question Mark

>> No.8361448

>>8328805
I got to meet and speak with Akira a decent amount at the last anime convention I was at and she's surprisingly adorable! Very very thin in person but overall smiles a lot and has a soft cute voice

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>>8337715
off topic but woowwww he looks SO much like Ren from nu'est (pic related)

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>>8345832
I love this image.
Mana looks like she is about two seconds from breaking his fucking face.

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>> No.8368563

>>8362203
mana is a guy op?

>> No.8368595

>>8340819
>david-bowie kei

can we make this a thing?

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>> No.8369301

>>8346757

I wear it quite often!

Mind you, I live in a hill-billy county were everyone has the education of a peanut and is very conservative, so needless to say most are not friendly when they see me. No to mention no one else anywhere near hear is into visual-kei. It doesn't bother me too much though, given I visit a city 2 hours away quite often and no one there seems to mind at all.

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>> No.8369957

I want to wear v kei but don't know where to start and I'm afraid I'll just look like a teenage mallgoth. I've always liked the look it had, kind of a goth/punk/pop/hair band fusion.

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>>8346230
>feminine vk
you rang?

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>>8369959
I got in trouble for calling them VK before.

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>> No.8374404

>>8358753
My friend got me a VIP ticket for my birthday so hopefully I'll see you there gull! I'm hoping it doesn't end up like Brazil either that was a wreck.

>> No.8374695

>>8374404
Im sure Ill see you, Ill be helping out here and there.

>> No.8374868

>>8374404
In Finland the VIP event was a total joke. I was so freaking disappointed but he had a perfect show so I managed to get over it.

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>> No.8375561

My fave visual kei outfit ever

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTBm1VpMHb0

>> No.8375654

>>8374868
What was the event?

>> No.8375716

>>8358753
I'm going to the LA show

>> No.8376170

>>8374404
>>8374868
Ofc it's a vkei event...the VIP is always not as good as they make it out to be. It's always quick and instant, just a hug or a handshake.Take a picture and bam thats it/

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Out of curiosity, how long does it generally take to have your hair braided like pic related?
I mean obviously it depends on how long your hair is but what is a general amount of time?

>> No.8376645

>>8376170
I've never been to a VIP of a VK event so thanks for telling me that now my expectations aren't set too high.
>inb4 sarcasm

>> No.8376899

>>8324114
this is completely arbitrary but i was creeping the ann arbor japan club google page or whatever the hell it is last week and they have one member at least who's clearly a vkei nerd. go join and friends her

>> No.8376907

>>8347866
sauce? i've seen this before and have always loved this pic but never known the subject.

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Naoto

Exist † Trace

>> No.8377058

>>8376907
It's Yohio

>> No.8377319

>>8376170
Yes, but it was still bad. The way they took pictures caused people who had waited longest to get the worst places. Also, they didn't tell there were VIP line so some of the people waited in the wrong line.

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>> No.8377974

>>8376645
it wasn't sarcasm. I think the vip event when you dine with them is better but i havent seen it being offered in a long time.
>>8377319
that sounds terrible, i hope the staff is more organized in the LA event.

>> No.8378255

>>8377974
Oh no I meant not to take what I was saying as sarcasm sorry for the misunderstanding!

>> No.8378612

>>8378255
no worries! are you going to a vkei vip recently or something?

>> No.8379803

Just came back from Kamijo's la concert. The band itself was fantastic. The staff on the other hand sucked.

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>> No.8380616

>>8378612
Yes I was >>8374404
Still excited to see Kamijo in the flesh tomorrow since I've enjoyed his music for about 7 years or so.

>> No.8381624

>>8380616
Same here been listening to him thanks to my parents. , I was at his LA show as well. f you got meet and greet I would suggest dress nice because you get a small Polaroid as a momento. Then you can change into something comfier for the performance. Shirts for women are 25 and the guy's tshirts are 20. The pamphlets are 40 bucks. the picture sets are around 10 i think. the girl's tshirts run small.

>> No.8381919

>>8381624
I'm lucky enough that the venue has seating for first come first serve, since I'll be in lolita my friend is gonna snag me a seat. Thanks for the heads up on the price range and sizes now I'll know how much money to bring!
> tfw I love being infront but can't this time
> tfw have nothing else I'd consider nice but comfy.

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>> No.8383154

>>8381919
I'm in a red and white coord and black hair if any gulls are in NY for the Kamijo event!

>> No.8383367

>>8376920

It sucks that there are so few female bands in vk. I wonder what's up with that?

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>> No.8387400

>>8383367
there aren't many successful female rockers in general.

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>> No.8388112

>>8322898
I've come across this thread so many times and I need to get it out that these guys are disturbingly ugly.

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oops. photo limit.

>> No.8390013

>>8388440
God damn...hide was a very beautiful man...

>> No.8390861

>>8388696
very great performer. Was amazing to see live. His fans on the other hand...