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Thoughts?

Personally I think she saw how many people called out her bullshit.

>> No.8307401

>>8307393
kek

>> No.8307406

She reuploaded it here anon: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxz0QVfggik

With a link to the parody in the description.

>> No.8307409

>>8307406
*Its reuploaded. soz.

>> No.8307425

she can suckmytssssoc.

>> No.8307427

I'm not surprised, after she saw all the traffic the parody was getting. Kate's been blocking anyone who even mentions it lol

>> No.8307446

wonder how long it'll take for this thread to get deleted too

>> No.8307481

What confused me about the original was when she was like 'dresses with a 20inch waist'...like no, most AP and other brand is up at like 27+inches...which is completely different.

>> No.8307485

>>8307481
SHE WAS JUST JOKING LIEK OMG!!!1122244111!

>> No.8307493

>>8307406
reuploading someone else's video is not cool. if she wants the video taken down, then she has learned something or changed her mind. no need to keep throwing the mistake in her face.

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8307499

>>8307493
wah.

>> No.8307503

>>8307493
nah man, people usually take down vids like these once they realize that everyone thinks they're a piece of shit and they want to hide the fact that they were, or that everyone thinks it.

everyone involved is trying to pretend it doesn't exist.

>> No.8307512

>>8307406
Those fucking bangs.

>> No.8307515

>>8307503
sounds like a self-righteous excuse for targeted bullying to me. keep that shit on the farm and off /cgl/. these threads keep getting deleted because it's impossible to have a constructive conversation with all you bitter sadists around.

>> No.8307524

>>8307515

There is a good thread on the farm by the way. Also I think its fine to talk about it on cgl?? I think we have fairly sound opinions most of the time. And if someone is acting stupid they usually get called out on it.

>> No.8307527

>>8307515
>waaaah i don't like it so it's wroooong
trying to say she's being bullied by that is the reason why LACE and shit are so DOA in the first place. oh the poor thing, she took down a video because it didn't have the responses she wanted and some mean old youtuber put it back up baaaw.

also, no, they keep getting deleted cause the mod is a piece of shit. most of these threads have been really positive and open, you're just choosing to see what you want because you're whiteknighting and clearly aren't a regular here.

>> No.8307528

Anyone got link to the parody?

>> No.8307531

>>8307515
>targeted bullying
If you think that there's a such thing as non targeted 'bullying' you're part of the problem. That's not what bullying is. Being mean to someone once is not bullying, bullying is always targeted, and always repetitive. If you're so delicate that your life shatters when one person calls you out on one thing once that you have to cry bullying then you clearly need someone to help you stop caring about others.

>> No.8307552

>>8307527
>most of these threads have been really positive and open, you're just choosing to see what you want because you're whiteknighting and clearly aren't a regular here.
i have been contributing regularly to each thread, offering tips on how to actually deal with actual bullies, and ignoring the petty drama talk that keeps getting the threads deleted. until this.

in my opinion the mod is too lazy to just delete individual posts. the fact that anons keep making the issue about specific "bad" lolitas who deserve what they get is why we can't have nice things.

reposting someone else's content, in the context like this where people are trying to "teach her a lesson", is harassment. it is not that complicated.

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8307557

>>8307527
>most of these threads have been really positive and open

>> No.8307562

>>8307531
"targeted" in this case was used to distinguish it from not-actual-bullying. like saying "black coffee" since "coffee" can mean too many things, despite "black coffee" being the actual pure form that should not need a qualifier. most people imagine something weaker when the word appears alone so an extra qualifier is used to distinguish the purer form of the word from its weaker/less accurate but more popular connotation.

>> No.8307565

>>8307552
Seriously? Reuploading a video is harassment now? From my understanding, it was reuploaded to provide context for people who were new to the discussion.

Once someone puts content on the internet, they no longer have full control over it. It was posted to youtube, so it's totally fair game for others to save and reupload as they see fit. Content on the internet is going to get redistributed among other people no matter what.

If there was something in the description telling people to dislike Jillian, that would border on harassment, but there isn't. Posting content Jillian herself was willing to post at one point is not harassment. If she's claiming it is, tough. She put herself on the internet; she should be able to face the consequences.

>> No.8307571

>>8307562

What.

>> No.8307578

>>8307571
>>8307562
Saying targeted makes it seem super extra bad, instead of it just being sorta bad. Because poor girl is suffering so much! This is why we need LACE!

>> No.8307584

>>8307571
people misuse "bullying" to mean a watered down version. this is something /cgl/ agrees on. what many LACE supporters are "against" is not actual, targeted bullying.

adding "targeted" is to prevent people from assuming the common watered down version (not actual bullying) was meant.

but kneejerks gonna kneejerk. since no lace supporters exist in this thread, and people come to them for drama, frustrated urges get taken out on imaginary opposition.

>> No.8307593

>>8307528
http://youtu.be/w-AoThVJV3o
Here it is. It freaks me out a tad just how accurate some of her imitation is

>> No.8307594

>>8307406
I hadn't seen the original but it makes the parody even funnier, ty

>> No.8307610

Reposting her video is just you being a dick for no good reason.

A discussion about LACE does not need that video to continue in a constructive fashion.

You're just flogging it for drama now. Boring drama, at that.

>> No.8307628

I'd feel bad for Jillian's video being reposted if she set things straight regarding her other video.

>> No.8307631

inb4 this thread gets locked and deleted because /cgl/ drama queens

>> No.8307637

>>8307610
>You're just flogging it for drama now. Boring drama, at that.
but anon, these girls are the Edward Snowden of the lolita world, fighting for truth and transparency! their cause is noble and not in any way tainted by the satisfaction they get from knocking another person down a peg in public.

>> No.8307644 [DELETED] 

>>8307637
That literally doesn't matter even a little bit.

Look, you aren't exposing anybody by telling everyone they're doing it for an award or that LACE is ineffective. You mocked them, you criticised them.

Now let them take that criticism board, and if nothing changes then dismiss them as exactly what you accused them of.

>> No.8307647

>>8307637
Woah woah I read that so wrong, sorry Anon. Yes you're completely right. This is starting to smell like people being smug about someone else being torn down.

>> No.8307649

>>8307610
it actually provides some context for the parody, so I appreciate it at least.

>> No.8307650

>>8307644
>That literally doesn't matter even a little bit.
i don't know, they're acting like it's their divine right to harass someone over this. there has to be some grand reason for their behavior. just give them a minute, they'll think of something...

>> No.8307652

>>8307649
i still have not seen the original and the parody is still hilarious in its own right.

>> No.8307654

>>8307647
s'okay anon i figured.

but i'm gonna repost your deleted comment to prove to the world that one time, anon misread something. because i deserve that justice.

>> No.8307669

>>8307652
I'd really encourage you to watch the original. It's almost scary how accurate the parody is. Trust me, watch it, even though it's like 11 minutes long. It enhances the effect of the parody

>> No.8307705

>>8307669
no thanks

>> No.8307717

she reminds me of jessi slaughter in her video tbh

>> No.8307723

>>8307669
this

>> No.8307746

>>8307610
I'm against LACE and don't like Jillian, but the fixation on one 17 year old girl's video is weird. I think the other threads were unjustly deleted, but this one should be imo. So many salty bitches taking a little parody video too far itt

>> No.8307753

>>8307485
No, actually, she really wasn't.

>> No.8307755

>>8307746
wait she's underage? people actually care about the opinions of a child that much? holy shit my sides

>> No.8307758

>>8307493
>if she wants the video taken down, then she has learned something or changed her mind.

No, it is called backpedaling. Much like Kate's post about how much she has been STALKED AND THREATENED!!!!!!11 /after/ she started being scrutinized for why she created lace.

>> No.8307765

>>8307593
That's because pixielocks is that much of a joke, so it's easy.

>> No.8307774

>>8307746
I wish I could afford burando when I was 17.

>> No.8307775

>>8307758
dude she's not an elected official, she's a kid. assuming you belong in this website, you're advocating for the public shaming of a teenager. that's so absurd it's hilarious.

>> No.8307784

>>8307775
*you're an adult advocating for the public shaming of a teenager

>>8307774
seagulls be jelly petty bitches. dunno about you but it would not surprise me if the people defending the reupload are jelly of a welloff and popular teenager.

>> No.8307791

>>8307784
>popular
kek

>> No.8307793

>>8307775
IF she is as much of a "kid" as you are claiming (and "adult" ages vary depending on country my dear amerifag), should she really be putting these videos on the internet? Where the hell are her parents and why aren't they monitoring her if she is that much of a kid?

You are blaming the world for having a reaction about someone being stupid and trying to tell me "hay gaiz she is 17 she dun know no betta" when, guess what, either she OR her parents have completely responsibility for this.

>assuming you belong in this website
??

Go back to school buckeroo, it's a weekday.

>> No.8307798

>>8307793
*complete responsibility

Also, you sound like the type who justify everything based on age. Just because someone isn't 18 doesn't mean they didn't do anything wrong.

>> No.8307813

>>8307793
you're getting off on the public shaming of a teenager who was already persuaded to remove her video, and claiming to have some sort of moral grounds for doing so, while jumping to bizarre conclusions about the motivations and lives of those you disagree with.

seems legit.

>> No.8307817

>>8307765
When I first read about the whole thing I got my tabs messed up and genuinely thought the original was the parody. I found it hard to believe anyone would seriously make a video like that but then again, she's a dumb sheltered kid. I'll laugh at the stupidity of the video but I won't hold it against her.

>> No.8307824

>>8307813
Way to completely avoid responding to every single point I made.

Go back to lace Jillian, and learn how to use some damn capitols at the beginning of your sentences while you're at it.

>> No.8307839

>>8307813
Lol in psych101 are we?

>> No.8307841

>>8307813
Hey Jillian, 4chan is 18+.

>> No.8307846

>>8307817
>I found it hard to believe anyone would seriously make a video like that
i am finding it hard to understand why anyone would even take it seriously.

i wish there was a place to talk anon without dealing with celebrity bullshit from the lolitas who want to use /cgl/ as an extension of social media. probably going to have to just nope out of efame/social media threads since the other chans are even worse when it comes to hyper-focus on specific people.

>> No.8307850

>>8307824
*capitals

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>>8307717

>> No.8307863

>>8307784
I'm pretty well-off myself, so no, I'm not jealous. I'm defending the reupload as a tool to provide context for the parody. The degree of so-called harassment resulting from the reupload is being way out of proportion here.

>> No.8307864

I don't know how I feel about all of this. On one hand the video was super cringey and LACE is just stupid, but on the other hand I feel like she's just a little naive and was drawn in by the fact a lot of the 'popular' lolitas were getting involved and the fact it was 'against bullying' so she wanted to get in on the trend and appear... moral, I guess?
Still, the parody is great but I don't feel like yhe original should have been reuploaded even though having context makes it funnier

>> No.8307874

>>8307393
I don't really condone reuploading the video but for fuck's sake, it's 2015, people should know by now that nothing on the internet can be permanently deleted.

>> No.8307876

>>8307784
>jealous
Lol, there it is. Comes up in almost every thread.

Anyway, feels good having worked for my own success and am well off financially on my own merit, and not due to my mom and dad giving me a spending allowance. Eat shit, teeny bopper.

>> No.8307880

>>8307481
haha yeah seriously. old ap was a little smaller but some of the recent releases are too big for me, and i'm not even that thin.

>> No.8307887

>>8307493
I thought Pixielocks reuploaded the video? So wouldn't that mean she doesn't want it taken down?

>>8307515
yeah hit the farm or the other chan

>>8307527
that was a controversial video for sure, but like... man, if you upload shit to youtube, be prepared for the worst of all possible comments. youtube is the worst place.

>> No.8307888

What exactly is wrong with this whole thing? The parody was funny and sure the original video had flaws (hence why the parody is so funny) but I disagree that bullying is something that "just happens so get over it". I mean, it does happen, and if/when it happens to you you do have to just get over it (or what... murder them? Kill yourself? Seems extreme) but that doesn't mean that we all have to accept it as a fact of life.
I don't think anyone can disagree that lolita has a bullying problem, and I think it'd be nice if it didn't. Just because that's how it is now, doesn't mean it has to always be like that. Places like /cgl/ can stay catty and bitchy... I mean that's practically what this website is made for. Every community will have it's dark corners. But it's not confined to /cgl/. As an outsider looking in, the drama and the bullying seems positively inescapable, to the point that I'm totally comfortable self-posting cosplay on here but would be hard pressed to attend a lolita meetup.

>> No.8307896

>>8307863
if not harassment, then it is still disrespectful and low, like that woman who bought the princess portal domain name because "lol no one was using it and now you're all mad which gives me the right to keep it." even if it is not illegal it's unnecessarily self-serving and hostile.

for the record i was also disappointed when archived threads on 4chan changed from something people would intentionally request to be archived to something that happens automatically. not every ignoble moment needs to be preserved.

>> No.8307899

>>8307552
They deleted the "bullying in lolita" thread yesterday and honestly, there was nothing bad in that thread. I think I saw you posting in it, I was posting in it too. It was a very level-headed thread for the most part, aside from the one or two trolls that any thread on 4chan is gonna get.

I agree with you. I think they're too lazy to cull the bad comments and are just hard deleting threads to save work.

If the janitors are tired of gulls talking shit about them, maybe they should take some of the real and valid concerns gulls have mentioned into account. Instead of just deleting threads they don't like.

>> No.8307906

>>8307864
She was the first one to make a video about it, even before Kate. That is not being drawn in, that is wanting attention/e-fame.

>> No.8307910

>>8307610
For drama? More like for context and maybe a few lulz

>> No.8307914

>>8307899
that was the best thread so far, yup. i ignored the people trying to make it about petty drama and hoped if no one engaged them that the mod or janitor could just clean those posts out, but it's clear that will not happen. like the feels threads: no one can stop posting off topic shit and instead of sending a message by deleting just those comments, the threads are banned.

>> No.8307916

>>8307406
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxz0QVfggik
Holy shit, I had no idea how accurate the parody vid was until I saw this. This si the first Jillian video I remember watching.

>> No.8307924

>>8307910
>H20? No, I prefer water
>Drama? No, I prefer lulz

>> No.8307925

Until pixielocks makes a video with an actual heartfelt apology for being such a twat (not just about the lace video, but trying to give advice when she is spoiled and also being so ME ME ME ME ME in the majority of her videos), she hasn't learned a damn thing and her past mistakes should be erased until she proves she has changed.

This is how the internet with everyone who makes a fool of themselves, it is super lolzy that some people are like BUT GAIZ SHE IS IN HIGH SCHOOL when that never mattered in the past.

>> No.8307928

>>8307925
*financial advice
*shouldn't be erased

Damn mobile.

Oh, and apologizing for ripping off Peachie and Deer Stalker Pictures too.

>> No.8307931

>>8307925
>until she publicly prostrates herself before me and begs for my forgiveness, my vendetta will not cease

>> No.8307942

>>8307914
It sucks because I think there's a lot to be discussed relating to bullying in lolita--not just LACE but generally. But it seems we can't have nice things here on cgl right now, which is... fine, I guess.

>> No.8307945

>>8307925
but are any of these things actually bad enough to warrant an apology video? I mean really? The girl makes slightly conceited YouTube videos that replicate what everyone else does, nothing truly horrendous

>> No.8307946

>>8307931
Glad I wasn't the only one who got the "moral highground police" vibe.
>>8307925
Hey anon, that's a lot of unwarranted self-importance you've got there and it's not cute.

>> No.8307955

>>8307493
Part of me agrees because hey, maybe she learned her lesson, maybe he's trying to move on, but the majority of me wants to point out that the number one thing people will constantly tell you about the Internet is that whatever you post here will follow you forever. There is no such thing as permanently deleting anything you post. To think otherwise is just naive, especially if you got any sort of attention for it, be it negative or positive.

>> No.8307958

>>8307393
this is cringy as fuck, this entire thread is cringy as fuck
it's retarded that people can't seem to ignore others and it's even more retarded that you have to make up excuses to be a cunt
just be a cunt because that's who you are, don't make up excuses to be yourself

>> No.8307965

>>8307942
i'm going to focus on other issues for now. threads with a "lolcow" as OP image don't exactly attract the best side of seagulls.

>> No.8307968

>>8307524
We can try to talk about it on CGL, but nazi-mod steps in sooner or later and deletes shit, so keeping any and all LACE talk on the farm is best option

>> No.8308004

>>8307968
Where is the farm site by the way? I just want to keep up with threads that don't keep getting deleted by the mod everyday.

>> No.8308009

>>8308004
lolcow.farm

>> No.8308020

>>8308009
Thanks! Much obliged.

>> No.8308021

https://youtu.be/og90oDhOkvI
According to Jillian's its just "two anons" that post about her on "Lolita hate sites".
Also that thing she does every five seconds with the weirs accent and slant of her mouth is irritating.

>> No.8308079

>>8307813
Nobody is publicly shaming you, hun. You are only making this worse for yourself. You were not persuaded to remove the video (were you?), you just didn't like the response to it. How can you claim that you do not care about what we say about you when you take down entire videos just because some people say things about them that you DO care about?


>>8307888
This!

>>8307896
Threads are archived forever, anon. On other sites. The archives here are nothing, they only stay for what - a week?

>>8307925
Shut up.

>>8308021
This is old though? And back then it was a small portion of people who were just jealous of her. Now those people have picked up on her less ideal personality traits and are trying to make everyone hate her - which seems to be working.
Also MLP is not sci fi?

>> No.8308108

>>8307406
I'm so glad I'm not in this fashion because she sounds so pretentious and if I had to listen to girls who speak that way every time I wanted to go to a meetup I'd shoot myself.

>> No.8308110

>>8308079
>Threads are archived forever, anon. On other sites.
that's what i mean. it used to be that the 3rd party archives were not automated, and you had to submit/vote for specific threads. now it seems every board has an external archive that saves everything. it's disappointing that that's what a lot of anons want and i wish it was not the case. i would rather rely on select screenshots to preserve specific noteworthy things, as that encourages OC.

>> No.8308115

>>8308110
I kind of agree, not even just for those reasons but also for the feeling of 'you had to be there to see it' rather then just being able to look it up.

>> No.8308116

Nigga just walk away

>> No.8308142

>>8308115
yep. now it's "check the archives" instead of "lurk moar, newfag."

>> No.8308169

>>8308142
Exactly, or when recent lolcows from any community are discussed after a while again and someone asks who they are it's just 'check the archives"

I like that anonymity of 4chan but somehow it always feels less knowing that it's 100% sure to be archived.

>> No.8308176

>>8308169
which is why i do not selfpost. do not want a bedroom snap for coord critique to follow me for the rest of my life.

>> No.8308181

>>8308116
Top kek

>> No.8308182

>>8308176
have fun living in fear.

>> No.8308188

>>8308176
Same, I've seen people search through archives of random-ass sites just to go "I knew you were a dick!" to some person, using a post from 10 years ago.

>>8308182
Not so much fear, it just makes me a tad bit uncomfortable. I mean, have you never had something you thought was the best thing ever at the time, and then a year or 4 later you realize what an idiot you were? Yeah I don't want that floating around on 4chan.

>> No.8308194

What annoys me about LACE and the popular lolitas supporting it is that they are run by and supported by young people who aren't mature for their age. Their naïveté is showing and not doing them any favors. I think that Jillian wouldn't have made such a video if she was in her mid twenties or older but it is understandable that a 17 year old would make a video like that.

>> No.8308199

>>8308188
i console myself with the idea that future generations will have one hell of a digital archeological record

>> No.8308204

>>8308199
Imagine a future lecture in sociology using old internet archives, discussing the mental state of 15 year old girls rping as gay fictional characters.

>> No.8308205

>>8308194
I think she would make a similar video if she was older, but it might just be a little shorter.
Honestly the points she makes in the video aren't bad. It's not a bad attitude to have, it's just that with a bit more maturity she might not actually SAY every bit of it, if that makes sense. It's good to think to yourself "Hmm, I have 2,000 strangers on the internet supporting me, that makes me happy. I'm going to disregard the haters because I don't really need to care what they think." It's just saying it to your 2,000 followers isn't something people will normally then go and do.
It's not a bad thing think, just a bit of a faux pas to actually say. But it's really not THAT bad....

>> No.8308209

>>8308204
oh man i want to live long enough to see it. academics scouring the internet for some untapped tidbit to support their thesis...

dear future: hello. thanks for stopping by. sorry about the oceans.

>> No.8308214

>>8308209
A master thesis studying the lives of those that visit /r9k/ on a day to day basis and how this correlates with their social standing.

But the same as you, it would be pretty hilarious.

>> No.8308222

>>8308214
"Progress and Reactivism: An Examination in 'Rolling' for Achievement and Trickery"

paper then makes an argument that rickrolling and getrolling are somehow related and showcase the "early" internet as a place of aggressive political ideology communicated through symbolic memes

>> No.8308238

>>8308222
A master thesis in the history of memes sounds like the most hilarious thing.

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>>8307481
I feel like this was because she's a Canadian teenager that probably doesn't understand Imperial (or whatever the hell it's called) measurements. But still, it's hella wrong for her to make assumptions. 20 inches is incredibly unhealthy, isn't it?
>pic related: actual 22-ish inch waistline

>> No.8308292

>>8308275

Depends a lot on height really.

>> No.8308296

>>8308275
That image is someone who's body is too large proportionately for a 22inch waist to be healthy. But actually I (the poster your replying to) have a 21inch waist but because I'm shorter and more petite naturally, it's not unhealthy (I'm like 158cm)...it just means I can't fit most brand, hence my slight annoyance by her comment

>> No.8308303

>>8308238
"The Lacanian Mirror Stage and the Stigma of 'Samefagging'"

ok i'm done

>> No.8308333

>>8308296

I have a 20 inch waist but I'm like 5 feet tall so its a good natural size for me and I dont look too skinny. Her comment irked me for the same reasons.

The metric system is something she;s got to understand if she is buying clothes online and needing measurements. I'll be genuinely amazed if I find out she REALLY thinks she is that small. While she doesn't look fat, she isn't exactly really skinny either. Just normal, healthy size for a 17 year old who is maybe like 5'5/5'6?

Also in her KawaiiGoods revew video she mentioned the size Medium skirt fit her a little snug but was really comfy. The measurements for that size are 26" - 37" so I'm willing to be shes around the 26/27 mark (you can kinda tell from the way AP fits her too).

Sorry for the slight rant but I hate it when people lie about their size, its a pet hate of mine ><

>> No.8308339

>>8308333
Did anyone notice a recent pic she put up was suuuuuuper shopped to make her look really skinny? Mainly in the face?

>> No.8308346

I'm asking this with all honesty, is it possible to participate that easily in lolita fashion while NOT having much of an online presence? I mean zero profiles on tumblr, Facebook, even lacemarket. I could imagine online bullying happening if one lolita in a comm was crazy and determined enough to ruin someone else's life. "Step back and walk away from the computer” could work, but the victim might still get banned from the local comm and its sales, maybe even the online egl comm sales and lacemarket if the vendetta-chan gets hold of your cellphone like that one poster in the now-baleeted thread.

Sure, one can pull a Momoko after having your reputation tarnished and strike it out alone, and buy only direct from the brands. But I could imagine it would make the hobby more difficult for an actual victim who suffers from that level of harassment. That anon has been lucky in that she had proof to provide the comm mods and reverse their decision to ban her, and the vendetta-chan fessed up, but the fact that she ended up leaving the comm anyway sort of gives a half-victory to the vendetta-chan.

LACE may have been started as a selfish, naive attempt to form a popularity bandwagon. But I think a frank discussion about bullying could actually be more of a constructive discussion than LACE ever could be, precisely because of gulls' intolerance for BS.

Also, general discussion of keeping your info secure. Auto-lock your phones, people. The downtown area of the closest major metropolis where I live is known for thugs just walking up to people and swiping their phones, because the victims are way too absorbed in their phones to notice. I'd expect lolitas to be more vigilant of their surroundings when walking in downtown areas, but honestly you should be protective of your phone when you're in any company, even "fellow lolitas". I'm not saying be distrustful of everybody, but there are basic things to protect your privacy in this digital age when your phone is your life.

>> No.8308353

I'll be done hating on pixielocks when she stops using the word ghetto.

>> No.8308362
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8308362

>>8308339

>> No.8308363

>>8308353
Someone should get the SJW's to attack her and call her racist for using ghetto.

>> No.8308370

>>8307669
I feel like that's why it was reuploaded in the first place, to give context to the parody

>> No.8308371

>>8308346
>But I think a frank discussion about bullying could actually be more of a constructive discussion than LACE ever could be, precisely because of gulls' intolerance for BS.
we keep trying
mods keep deleting our shit along with the vendetta-chans' shit

>> No.8308372

>>8308353
Deets

>> No.8308373

>>8308362
>>8308339
I see what you mean, her face doesn't even look like...well...her face

>> No.8308380

>>8308362
normally i dont care too much about the backgrounds of photos but look at those poor pink shoes covered in scuffs. i really hope she doesnt wear those anymore

>> No.8308381

>>8308346
Clarification: the anon of the previous thread did NOT get banned from the egl comm sales or lacemarket. Sorry if my wording was unclear. I just meant that she got banned from the local comm, until she provided proof to its mods that vendetta-chan got hold of her phone and tried to smear her reputation. If vendetta-chan had tried to go further, theoretically she could have decided to increase the damage and make anon's ability to participate in the online secondhand markets.

>> No.8308382

>>8308372
In some of her vids she says she like, ghetto-attached things to herself. In general her language is pretty unattractive.

>> No.8308388

>>8308382
Well that's not attractive. I don't like the word ghetto being used when it concerns Lolita. It just never made sense, especially since I grew up around projects when I was younger (started from the bottom now I'm here situation). However to each their own for what they identify with lesser quality.

>> No.8308389

>>8308373
It looks like it is made out of some weird liquid substance. Most of her pics have weird face shoops.

>> No.8308391

>>8308388
>However to each their own for what they identify with lesser quality.
>White Canadian girl using it to describe "lazily attaching something" to herself in lolita

Umm

>> No.8308393

>>8308389
I think it's pretty sad when people edit their faces to that extent, she actually has a reasonably nice face anyway

>> No.8308394

>>8308391
Sorry misinterpreted the context.

>> No.8308403

>>8308372
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Zr1X_5UKUE

I believe she said it in this.

>> No.8308416

>>8308403
Thanks. Meh I have seen the word used in worse ways concerning Lolita. Not as bad as I would have thought.

>> No.8308417

>>8308403
No it was the How Lolita Are You Quiz vid? I don't really want to watch it again though and find where.

>> No.8308425

>>8308416
It's not so much a meh, just the fact that she is ignorant and does lots of cringe worthy stuff but still gets people going BUT GAIZ SHE IS 17 and defending her when in actuality, she does plenty of offensive things.

>> No.8308440

Apparently she is also part the self-proclaimed LACE patrol because she is going around and meddling with people who don't need her input?

http://healthyeyes.tumblr.com/post/117557917909

>> No.8308459

>>8308362
That's some wonky shoop going on there. Look at how warped the gathers at the top of the skirt are.

>> No.8308463

>>8308459
she is CLEARLY "not bothered" when people say she's not skinny enough

>> No.8308479

>>8308346
I'm a lone lolita. Sometimes I go to tea parties, but nobody knows who I am. Mainly I go to those for the desserts and to meet the designers of my favorite brands. Otherwise, I don't go to meetups and I don't associate with any other lolitas. I don't do anything lolita-related on FB and I don't have a lolita tumblr. I go on /cgl/ to laugh at stupid drama like this.

I like lolita for the clothes. I see no need to craft an online persona just to suit my style of dress or go out of my way to interact with others solely based on what clothes I like to wear. I have friends at my university, and while they don't get lolita at all I wouldn't trade them for anything.

As for purchases, I try to buy direct from the brands when I can, but I also buy a lot of stuff from Japanese auctions. I'm not a fan of the western secondhand market because I've heard way too many horror stories.

So yeah, it's totally possible to participate in the fashion without having an online presence. Lolita is just clothes. The only requirement for being a lolita is wearing it.

>> No.8308480

>>8308425
Oh no I won't excuse for age. By a certain age you are well enough aware of what you say and what you meant by it. However I think she will get correction for those offenses (like now) and she will hopefully be wiser in her words and actions, because this looks like a mess.

>> No.8308481

>>8308362
The pink shoes right behind her, next to the white sandals...is it me or is the sole broken?

>> No.8308486

>>8308481
Yeah, it's broken. They're just bodyline shoes, so she probably wears them often.

>> No.8308530

>>8308204
>>8308209
>>8308214
>>8308222
>>8308303
kek

>>8308346
>is it possible to participate that easily in lolita fashion while NOT having much of an online presence?
I've been doing it for eight years now. I do have a tumblr I visit once in a blue moon but never post anything on, and get most of my community fix on /cgl/. My second-hand burando all comes from CC and Japanese auctions. Once I tried making a FB under a false name but social networking just doesn't appeal to me at all, and I got bored with it within the week. My boyfriend is completely nonexistent on social networks, too. I realize it's not for everyone but it's definitely not impossible, and I'm quite happy this way. Socialization mostly just stresses me out.

>>8308362
>all those busted-up shoes
that ain't cute

>> No.8308536

>>8308362
>those lips
Is she trying to Kate-i-fy her face?

>> No.8308618

>>8308222
>>8308238
It's probably not on the same level but I actually DID do my undergraduate honors thesis in anthropology about trolling on /soc/.
Also, there's this http://www.aaai.org/ocs/index/ICWSM/ICWSM11/paper/viewFile/2873/4398

>> No.8308629

>>8308346
No it's not hard.
I have only a facebook because otherwise I wouldn't know about comm events or the sales page, but I don't post my lolita shit anywhere.

There is nothing but your own vanity that requires someone to post their personal information and their hobby shit.

>> No.8308643

>>8308381
She had to go out of her way to contact the mods of EGL and the comm sales groups to show that she wasn't the scammer, though. She was initially banned.

>> No.8308650

>>8307406
what is going on with her voice? Did she edit this sound at all? She talks so loud at some points it wonks up the mic. Why even bother getting dressed up so much over-the-top for a stupid video?

>> No.8308651

>>8308650
Because she can't coord unless it's piling on OTT tumblr trends.

>> No.8308653

>>8308479
>it's totally possible to participate in the fashion without having an online presence

yet here you are

>> No.8308675

>>8308653
Gossiping on /cgl/ hardly counts. It's not like I'm a tripfag. My posts aren't really distinguishable from any other seagull's, and that's the way I like it.

>> No.8308726

>>8308643
That's exactly what I said. Anon was initially banned from the local comm, and then had to provide proof to un-ban herself. Then afterwards, she left the comm on her own accord, and eventually the fashion.

It's good to hear other anons can do the lone lolita gig pretty easily. I guess then the only remaining question is how can comms recognize the crazy vendetta-chans and boot them without turning it into a witchhunt, which is what some people are afraid LACE (or any other anti-bullying movement that is organized primarily through the internet) may eventually become if its mission is not clearly defined.

Also, LACE should be careful before pointing to BtB and cgl as the root of all evil in the lolita communities. One has to take anonymous boards with a huge grain of salt. But also, some victims may only feel safe to vend about bullies on anonymous boards like this.

Does LACE remember Melissa? Melissa was booted from the SF comm because a cgl thread sparked discussion of her racist comments and even threats. But the victims only mentioned it on cgl first, because they were afraid of being called transphobic if they reported it to the SF mods. After the thread was alerted to the SF mods (who had until then never heard of this type of behavior from Melissa), a few people in the SF community actually came forward with their own accounts of Melissa's actions and comments. Looking back, Melissa seems to have shown all the actions of a bully. She kept good behavior in the presence of comm mods, and she would threaten/insult only one person at a time, with no other comm members around who could act as a third-party witness. When the mods confronted Melissa about other people's accounts, she sure enough cried transphobia. But further discussion showed that she had no idea what being trans meant. Instead Melissa was a racist, sexist sissy, who was only in the fashion because sissies get their jollies off from being degraded by "being girly."

>> No.8308727

Small update on the size thing.

According to facebook she is 5 feet tall.

Again, I call bullshit. If she is so little then why do half her AP pieces fit so high above her knees?

I think shes lying about her size and shooping her face so much so people thing she looks like this perfect, kawaii doll.

>> No.8308729

>>8308653
>anonymous imageboard
>online presence
As long as they don't go around selfposting or regularly sharing personal information, it's practically impossible to cyberbully an anon on 4chan.

>> No.8308737

>>8308726
Thread about the Melissa drama here, for anybody who doesn't know the story

>>/cgl/thread/S7877663

>> No.8308748

>>8308737
Thanks anon! What a gross asshole Melissa is.

>> No.8308801

>>8308737
>>>/cgl/thread/S7877663
i want more details about the sneaker stalker dude, does anyone have any?

>> No.8308825

>>8308801
Oh, the story of Phil the creepy foot fetishist? That was included in the previous thread to that one, but here's a link to make it easier for you:

>>/cgl/thread/S7872218#p7873549

>> No.8308828

http://girlyhoot.tumblr.com/post/118248089623/the-truth-about-lace
Apparently the girl hoot must not be named is getting death threats

>> No.8308839

>>8308618
This is actually amazing and amusing.
Any chance you have your thesis posted somewhere?

>> No.8308840

>>8308618
I did my undergrad thesis on memes, too
It was shit though

>> No.8308853

>>8308825
>>>/cgl/thread/S7872218#p7873549
Wow. I was the anon who found this and posted it. Completely forgot about the story, but I am cringing so hard at this shit right now.

>> No.8308855

>>8308840
yikes why would anyone do that

>> No.8308858

>>8308855
Eh I couldn't think of anything else to write about so I wrote about stuff I knew which happens to be stupid bullshit on the internet. Anyway I passed and got my degree which is all that matters to me anyway.

>> No.8308861

>>8308858
and this is why nobody takes you people seriously

>> No.8308863

>>8308840
>>8308855
I'd rather have academia attempt to analyze 4chan from a sociological perspective than mainstream media; at least they are more likely attempt an objective analysis, and not jump to the conclusion that we must all be evil hackers just like in the movies

>> No.8308865

>>8308861
What do you mean "you people"

>> No.8308867

I can't wait til someone writes their thesis on gamergate.

>> No.8308868

>>8308865
people with toilet paper degrees like philosophy, anthropology and arts

>> No.8308871

>>8308868
My degree isn't in any of those things, STEMlord

>> No.8308878

>>8308871
whatever degree allows you to write about memes then
and not even in STEM, but keep projecting

>> No.8308888

>>8308828
she's full of shit
literally